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Winning presidential aspirant to serve for only 3 yrs – Malila

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Attorney General Mumba Malila has described a statement stating that a presidential candidate to be elected in this month’s by-election would not be subjected to the 2011 elections as legally incorrect and misleading.

Mr. Malila said the person to be elected in the presidential by- election would have to serve the remaining three year in accordance with the constitution.

He told ZANIS in a press statement that the current national assembly which is five years from 2006 will come to end in 2011.

Article 88 (6) of the constitution states that the National Assembly stands dissolved at the end of five years from the date of its sitting .

In view of that provision, he said the new president to be elected will in fact join an existing National assembly to make parliament.

He said the new president will not affect the term of the National Assembly .

“ The constitution does not say a person who has served two terms will not be eligle for re-election. he determining words are twice been elected for purposes of limitation,’ he added.

The Attorney General was reacting to Patriotic Front (PF) Leader Michael Sata statement that there will be no presidential election in 2011.

He said whoever will be elected president this month end is supposed to rule for the term of five years.

Mr. Malila has since implored political leaders to seek the advice of their advisers on the constitutional issues provisions before making statements on legal issues which could be totally misleading to the public.

ENDS/MK/PK/ZANIS.

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334 COMMENTS

  3. It only makes sense, i don’t even know why we should waste time debating the issue when the constitution is there as a guide.

  4. All this noise Ba HEHEHEHHHH is making will soon be dead like the day he never dreamt of being a politician. Wait and see. Wina AZALILA!

  6. #4 what u trying to put across the topic is whoever wins this monthend elections will only rule for the remaining three years.Where does HH come in,its not him that made that irresponsible statement,its yo mad president(cycle mata).

  8. There times when I think Sata is right for Zambia (due to the poor field of candidates we have) and then he opens his mouth with nonsense like that. We are to advanced to start going back to people with dictatorial tendancies like Sata. It clearly shows that he intends to get in to State House and never get out till he drops dead

  9. SATA the Dictator is misleading the nation as usual. Only those with short memories are advancing Satanic’s ambitions to be President at ALL COSTS.
    “There will be no polls in 2011 – Sata
    PATRIOTIC Front (PF) leader, Michael Sata, has said there will be no presidential elections in 2011 because whoever will be elected president in this month-end’s election is supposed to rule for five years. And Mr Sata has pledged to restore dignity to Kabwe town by reviving all closed and ailing industries in the once mining district, if elected president.”

  10. Ba Sata! signs of dictatorship. Take it easy man don’t faula before elections. Who are Satas legal advisors? The law is very straight forward on this.

  11. Khukhamba tikhamba but khunvhela chibavhuta – Sata is not Presidential material. Ichimwela chena, banono. However voting for Sata only gives you ichimwela. No reasoning.

    Do you remember who coined the word ‘wamuyaya’ or the phrase ‘kumulu Lesa, panshi Kaunda’? The same intends to run for president. The same supported the third term bid ruthlessly, before being ditched. This same man is Sata.

    Vote wisely bane.

  13. I really wudnt love this corrupt and irresponsible MMD gvt to continue so i had thot of Sata as an alternative but looking at at his behaviour i have no choice but to go for HH.The man is not yet presiednt but yet he is behaving as though he has already won the elections.

  15. That is a great statement by Malila!!!! i think it will open eyes(minds)of some Zambians who want to usher a dictator into power!!!!if sata can say that before he even gets into power what more worse will he do when he is in power?PLIZ!! VOTE WISELY COZ YOU MIGHT REGRET THE CHOICE YOU WILL MAKE FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE!!!!!
    viva HH!!!!!!!!!

  16. Sata is just a power hungry creature without any good character. This is what it means when you have a grade 4 as a president. Guys education pays. You can imagine how many mistakes this chap will make if by the devils power he becomes president. The old satan is showing already. Zambia does not need senseless leaders like sata this time around.

  17. #6,In this political MUD CYCLE, am neither here nor there. I support no one, has never and will never vote in my life time. Just A WASTE OF TIME + ENERGY. Voters do all their best to line up and stand in hot sun bare foot ( no shoes at all.. poor them) just to enrich someone. That some one never fends for anything, walks with shoes on, sleeps on a comfy bed……

  18. “The Attorney General was reacting to Patriotic Front (PF) Leader Michael Sata statement that there will be no presidential election in 2011”.

    THIS IS TYPICAL OF WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT SATA. DICTATORIAL TENDERNCES.
    THOSE OF YOU SUPPORTING SATA, THINK TWICE. THIS MAN WILL BRING NOTHING BUT TROUBLE SHOULD HE BE ELECTED INTO OFFICE. PEOPLE, SATA HAS NO DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL QUALITIES BUT AN ANARCHIST. VOTE WISELY

  21. #4. I feel pity for you. I have lots of TISSUE paper to help wipe your tears on 2nd November, 2008. Otherwise, take care and be blessed.

    There is still time for you to join the winning team of the UPND’s HH.

  22. BAMUDALA BA SATA BALAKWA. I GOT SCARED WHEN I READ HIS UTTERANCES IN THE NEWSPAPER.I WANTED TO VOTE FOR HIM BUT NOW AM THINKING TWICE AND AM NOT ALONE.THIS MAN MIGHT LAND US INTO TROUBLE.HE MIGHT TURN OUT TO BE A MUGABE CLOWN.I THINK HH DESPITE SOME RESERVATIONS MIGHT GET MY VOTE.

  24. WE KNEW SATA WAS DREAMING AS USUAL PLEASE ASK FOR LEGAL EXPARTS ON ISSUES OF SUCH IMPORTANCE THIS SHOWS SATANAMIA ATTIDUTE WHICH WE ARE AGAINST OF.VIVA MY MAN echi echi

  25. #17!!Voting is not wasting time!!!your vote is your voice(choice) on the direction on which you want your country to go!!! the fact is the policies put by the person voted into power will affect you whether you like it or not!!!!!

  27. #21 Thanks for your kind and humble offer, but no thanks, I don’t need any Tissue paper, use it yourself/save it for your person..meaning yourself.. I will never bother myself voting for anyone and am not interested in this mud slinging so called political vocalisation at will- all in vain…………… come Oct. 30th.Wina AZALILA, I WON’T BE SURPRISED IF YOU ARE NOT INCLUDED!!. Watch this space!

  28. #24, great and lovely posting.

    We who are peace-loving Zambians have always maintained that Sata is not Presidential material. Former Zambian President KK mentioned of Sata no being Presidential material. Former Chiluba dribbled Sata in 2001 because Sata is not Presidential material. And Former President Chiluba mentioned that he will indicate his choice on whom he will support for Zambian President shortly (Source: www . muvitv . com). So Chiluba did it in 2001, again he dribbled Sata in 2006 which caused the current Sata’s Mouthpiece The POST to change towards supporting Mwanawasa. Chiluba will save us, soon, from Sata again this year.

  30. #27, I have no problem with RBB winning the elections because he is atleast trustworthy. I equally have no problem with Brig. Gen. Miynda winning. On the otherhand HH is my best candidate and he has done a great job by campaigning countrywide. But the Bemba-Tribalists are impeding Zambias progress by rejecting the only suitable choice, HH.
    Lastly, it won’t hurt me if Sata wins – but be aware that the MMD is strong in Northern Province and will get votes in Lusaka not because they are popular but Nyanja people are many in Lusaka and will abondon Sata. This is painful truth, but it is only true.
    Have a good day.

  31. #25, That’s why I chose not to vote. As well said , who ever wins their policies affect us all, but you know what? if you vote for someone and they don’t win isn’t that more painful to be ruled by the person you never sided? that’s why I said Am neither here nor there in this political KAVULUVULU.
    EVERY ONE HAS A RIGHT EITHER TO VOTE OR NOT. I HAVE MADE MY CHOICE. THAT IS MY RIGHT. I WILL RESPECT YOUR OPINION…….

  32. LPM spent much of his life warning Zambians that this is a very dangerous man. Others who dig deeper have even warned us of previous metal disorganization. His party organization would make a best seller if one were to talk about political chaos. There are some good people in PF but have desperately waited for his disappearance. The bitter lesson came from one patriotist in the name of Chishimba, cataloging unpleasant principals that make up this man. The man has now preyed on the Short memory, the tender age of many voters and tribal sentiments only known in the days of Lenshina. Tell me if Banda does not represent stability to you # 20. Put Zambia in the forefront.

  33. OK SO ITS 3 AND NOT 5…BUT INCOMING PRESIDENT CAN DISSOLVE PARLIAMENT AND DECLARE GENERAL ELECTIONS WHICH WOULD MAKE IT 5 YEARS…..OUR CONSTITUTION DOESNT MAKE SENSE…WHAT IF YOU LOSE A PRESIDENT A YEAR BEFORE HIS TERM COMES TO AN END THEN THE INCOMING WILL ONLY RULE FOR ONE YEAR….SATA WAS SENSIBLE BY SAYING 5 YEARS BECAUSE THE CONSTITUTION DOESNT MAKE SENSE….VIVA NCC…CAUSE THEY WILL CHANGE IT AND THAT WILL SEE THE INCOMING PRESIDENT RULE FOR THE SENSIBLE 5 YEARS…..SATA STATEMENT MAKES SENSE

  34. He had my vote before opening his mouth about his dictatorial tendencies, SATA IS A DANGEROUS MAN, IF YOU WANT A LIFE PRESIDENT, AT YOUR RISK VOTE SATA. Guys open your eyes.

  35. ~33 couldn’t agree with you more. What a waste of time and money to have to vote again in 2011 for presidential elections. Our constitution needs some serious amendments. Sata is right and I hope he wins and amend this so cold constitution which appears not to make sense. Zed needs to move forward no election in 2011

  36. Vote RB pipo and serve Zambia.Consider HH for 2011.He was not ready for this one.Lets pray pipo.If you see the calibre of pipo surpporting Sata, You wounder what Zambia would become. Taxi drivers, minibus drivers,bakaponia,Katchaso drinkers and tribe inclined pipo.Lets Hope Chiluba will serve us again. Respect you Fred despite other issues.Post is a let down.Whats wrong with M’membe

  37. Iam not suprised that Mr Sata made that statement, that is the Sata i know he doesn’t respect the law. And when people say Mr Sata is presidential material my heart bleeds. The man is a dictator.

  39. People it was just a joke naimwe how come you are insulting the in-coming presido. PABWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTTTTOOOOOOOOO chabe bakapala.

  40. #11 The man behind “kumulu Lesa, panshi Kaunda” and ” Kaunda Wamuyaya” was Fines Bulawayo. Sata was then much younger then. Always consult on matters you are not sure about.

  41. Those are dangerous statements and voters will definitely lose confidence in a leader that’s not ready to step down in 2011.

  42. Shame on the Toothless Cobra, it is like he doesn’t even have legal advisers. Ba Scott naba Lubinda, you look a bit sensible, what are you doing seing this man go into a ditch. He is losing even the bit he nearly got.

  43. #11 The man behind “kumulu Lesa, panshi Kaunda” and ” Kaunda Wamuyaya” was Fines Bulawayo. Sata was then much younger. Always consult on matters you are not sure about.

  44. I MUST ADMIT THAT BEFORE NOW I THOUGHT WHOEVER WINS WILL RULE FOR 5 YEARS BUT AM AMAZED AT HOW SHALLOW OUR CONSTITUTION IS….SURELY IF A PRESIDENT DIED A MONTH OR YEAR BEFORE HIS TERM DOES THAT MEAN INCOMING ONLY RULES FOR A YEAR OR MONTH…..? PEOPLE THIS GOES BEYOND SATA STATEMENT OF WHICH I BELIEVE MOST ZAMBIANS THOUGHT TRUE AND MORE SENSIBLE…NCC MUST SERIOUSLY CONSIDER THAT AND BRING OUT SOMETHING SENSIBLE AND LESS PROGRESSIVE…BECAUSE ELECTIONS IN A YEAR OTHER ELECTIONS THE NEXT IS SURELY RETROGRESSIVE…EVEN HH SAID THIS IN ONE OF HIS INTERVIEWS….VIVA SENSIBLE LEADERSHIP

  45. Sata am yo supporter but pliz stop this nonsense. The winner will only serve 3 yrs and thereafter go for another election. Okay

  46. #54 continued.
    “M u l e i p o s e l a f y e n s h i t a. Ifwe tuka votela pa bwato fye, naba m u d a l a besu ba Sata. You are j u s t w a s t i n g your time. We will v o t e the boat and our o l d man Sata,” they s h o u t e d.”
    Source: maravi . blogspot . com / 2008 / 10 /banda – feels -protected -from – witchcraft . ht ml

    This is what I call Bemba-Tribalism.

    May the best man , HH, win the Presidential elections

  47. See what comes out each time Sata opens his mouth. Is it verbal diarrheoa??? He needs to be evacuated to South Africa immediately before he says something else. VOTE WISELY.

  49. #29, Thanks for your comments and may God guide and bless you abundantly! Am not primitive but a great comedian, this is just blogging………..where is your humour?

  50. THE MAN IS PART OF THE MMD GROUP WHICH BLOCKED DR.KAUNDA FROM STANDING IN 1996.SO HE WILL CHANGE THE CONSTITUTION TO SUIT HIS NEEDS.

  52. NOW I KNOW, SATA IS A REASONABLE LEADER. THIS WAS LOGICAL THINKING. AND IT IS CORRECT, ALTHOUGH LEGALLY INCORRECT. ITS GOOD ITS BEEN RAISEDD AND THE NCC SHOULD TAKE THIS ISSUE INTO ACCOUNT, AS IT IS A BIG CONSTITUTIONAL LACUNA. OF COURSE HE WAS JUST STIRRING UP DEBATE AROUND THIS IMPORTANT ISSUE WHICH MALILA AND OTHER LEARNED COLLEGUES OF HIS HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO RAISE. VIVA MWAMUKOLO!!!!!

  53. Imwe.even ur tuma candidates hav blundered at once.evn great Obama has blundered,dnt crucify sata lyk ths.easy..ur rb may js say th dulest b4 nxt wik ka.

  54. THE CONSTITUTION IS CORRECT REGARDING PRESIDENTIAL BY ELECTIONS.I THINK OTHER COUNTRIES MUST COPY FROM US.AT LEAST IT HAS SHOWN US HOW GREEDY AND POWER HUNGRY SATA AND RB ARE.

  55. Ine ndine Michael Sata. I am not a leader – I am an unrepentant shameless misleader and an even more shameless dictator.

  56. Hope this shades some light on all you PF supporters as to how untrustworthy and unpredictable this man is. At least some bloggers here have come to accept that Sata may not be the right man. RB on the other hand is worse in that there is no originality in his policies. He just wants to ride on LPM’s back but on an unimaginable level of corruption. This leaves HH, a man of integrity and a clear vision which will eleviate our country from the doldrums and who will take sound economic steps if this world credit crunch hits Zambia.

  62. #52. You are boring. Wabora. Sata wants to go bring the dictatorship his brother Bob. He is overcofident. When he will lose this election on 30th October, he will change his mind to support the constitution. As for now 5 years is good for him. He does not respect the constitution. The constitution is for the people not an individual like SATA. The constitution is very clear but Mr SATA wants to defy is ears. Nobody will go against the constitution from now onward.VIVA HH, VIVA Mwalizoho

  64. well said 56, but HH can wait, we are in injury time. I think the corrupt man is better than the dictator. After all he will just serve 3 years. You can control a perceived corrupt man, not a dictator through and through like Sata. Lets see for ourselves. HH is going to start learning governance first, wish the chap had worked in govt before. Ni A’Banda chabe apa first, benangu bena HH 2011. Sata, kiss us goodbye, you fu.. up big time already no more chances.

  65. Tubombele chapamo. HH says, comes 30th and thereafter will Work, work, work and more Work. Tutwale abana kusikulu and mahwala muvipatala.

  66. #33&35. There is nothing confusing about the constitution. It is straight foward. What we should be talking about is suggesting to the NCC to make an amemdment where the position of VP should be an elective position so that should anything catastrophic happen to the president, the VP should automatically become president.
    One thing we have to keep in mind is that there is very little civic education in our country. Sata is wrong and he should stop misleading the people.

  67. yaba! PF is indeed Poor Finisher. After starting so well pa last, baitaya! PF supporters face it, this statement has taken your candidate out of the race. You were warned all the time guys. Anyway, we are all getting to learn the candidates…one by one we drop them. So, 1, Sata out, three to go. Since the General is already out so its now RB vs HH…lets go Zambia! lets go!

  68. #64 I agree with you to the extent that the corrupt is better than the dictator. (an uneducated dictator for that matter). However, its better to have an uncorrupt, democratic, educated, successful leader who can then bring on board experinced advisors.

  70. #44. You are very dull. Ready the our constitution. Do not be like bamudala ba SATA. One do not need to be an interlectaul to understand this issue in the constitution.

  71. Ladies and gentlemen could you correct me on this one. What if the person who wins this month also wins in 2011, will they allowed to stand in the 2016 elections?

  72. If HH’s only downfall is his lack of experience, then what better length of time to serve than 3 years?

    What will Sata do in 3 years that he could not do in however many years he served under KK, kafupi and LPM?

    What uncorrupt gimmick will RB demonstrate that he hasn’t shown us in 3+ months?

  75. But seriously, Princess (#72), that perfume you are wearing, it is so nice I can hear it from where I am. Let me guess; for a lady of high standing such as yourself, nothing less than channel number 5, no?

  76. #72, Princess, lovely postings, thats why I promoted you to queen the other day. From your analysis, the Engine Bbloko now concludes that out of the available candidates, HH is the better Choice. Now you Maestro Hhehhehhehhe, dont polute my recomendations by tribal sentiments. This recommendation is based on facts, true reasoning and real patriotism….Viva Zambia! All of you in the dispora including Proffesor Chirwa should start packing to go home, HH needs your brains in his government…Princes, be the first to go!

  77. #71, the answer to you querry is NO. No, because the Zambian Republican Constitution allows a PERSON to be Zambian President for only 2 terms. Therefore, if president ecHi-ecHi wins this 30th October, 2008 election, hisfirst term will be for 3 years. In 2011, if HH will win the 2 Term UPND presidency at the UPND Convention to lead its (UPND’s) National Management Committee hence becoming its presidential candidate again, then ecHi-ecHi will stand for Zambian Presidency for his 2nd Term as Zambian Republican President. Such a trend of events will make him Zambian President for only 8 years of which he will end at age 54 years old which is in conformity with the Civil Service retirement age

  78. 138. Hit’em up Maestro Hhehhehhehhe sounds very educated and I am sure he is.I am not a upnd guy but always read his comments,he is a true son of Zambia.Maestro Hhehhehhehhe if possible go help your man hh,the guy is failing to tick,that your upnd party needs serious reorganisation and Managerial skills or it will go into oblivion soon.

  79. #76, thanks, but even if i went back today, i would not be able to vote as i am not a registered voter.

    #75, thanks too, but what makes you so sure am a lady? I could be a block for all you know, lol!

  80. #76, am I the most popular LT Blogger? Do you think I can win the election to be an “Society for LT Bloggers” presidency.

    I am seriously considering standing for Zambian Republican President in 2016 as an indepent candidate. What is your advice #76, Engine Bbloko?

    I will be waiting for your input.

  81. CONVINCE ME VOTE FOR HH BASED ON HIS PAST PUBLIC SERVICE ACHIEVEMENTS……….NOT PRIVATE CAUSE PRESIDENCY AINT PRIVATE….

  82. #78, choma1, I am humbled by your encouragement. However, i do not think it will be wise for me to join the mighty UPND since I am Tonga from both parents. I am thus considering standing for Zambian Presidency in 2016 as an Independent Candidate (see #77 above). What do you think about my ideas? What is you recommendation for me to go it Independent or help echi-ecHi and UPND?

  83. I have said this before general Miyanda is the right man for the office of the President and State house, but why does he insist on getting none enthusiastic people to rally around him. Of the four we all very well know he has the highest moral standards, those which bring about wise and knowledgable faces. Why can he not find the right footing, as a Christian I have always known Zambian Christians mostly to be followers not imbracing their God given leadership Qualities.

  84. It’s a laugh when pipo talk about Charles Michael Sata being a man of action. My foot… What action? Do you call bullying the pipo you are supposed to manage and lead action? Do you call causing confusion on a fully loaded plane action? Do you call selling a council house to your father-in-law despite a government ban action? Do you call bulldozing houses for the poor people in the pretext of building them new ones action? Do you call a man that does not respect another man’s wife a man of action? Do you call a dried out old fashioned comedian a man of action? Do you call MACHETING the poor dissenting voices in Chawama action? NOOOOOOOO. NO CLOWN TO BE THE FACE OF ZAMBIA.

  85. Ok lets leave Sata alone since he has helped us by showing us once more who he real is – “NOT PRESIDENTIAL MATERIAL” Can someone comment, RB also says he is a trained economist like HH and that he is also an experienced diplomat, whats your take bloggers????

  86. #79, Princess, there is nothing to stop a man such as yourself from wearing a feminine perfume. It is a free world after all. My point is that I can hear it from where I am !

  87. HH A BILLIONAIRE IN KWACHA SURELY HOW CAN HE FAIL TO HAVE ATLEAST A SINGLE COOMUNITY BASED INITIATIVE TO HIS NAME? NO ORPHANAGE…….NO ADOPTED HOSPITAL WARD…. NO OLD PEOPLES HOME ….NO RECORD OF HELPING THE NEEDY…..THATS WHY THE POST FAVOURS SATA…AMOS MALUPENGA IS A LAWYER EVEN FRED MMEMBE IS A LAWYER BOTH MILLIONAIRES HIGHLY LEARNED BOTH HAVE RECORDS OF HELPING THE NEEDY…BUT THE BILLIONAIRE HH….COMPLETELY BO RECORD…AND HE WANTS TO BE PRESIDENT….

  88. #73 & 74 Wenge(Rumba). Let me enlighted you. The party can vie a new president in 2016 not the same president. Sinjoko no one will vie for the third term after the chawama experience not even SATA. Its only 10 years for president. In this sitution of the late LPM, we are in eight years of president for this guys aspirants. They have no 10 years.

  89. # 77. Don’t you think there is a loophole here. If one had to be technical, you can argue that the constitution says “two five year terms”. 3 does not equall to 5. So I think it all depends on how the judges would interpret “two terms”.

  90. If you disagree please post some thing you know I am right, Christians back home always say we cannot involve ourselves, question then when are we going to ever rejoice as a people, for when the rightheous rule the people rejoice, when the evil rule, the people grumble. We have grumbled for 45 years, Who ever is voted in stays three years, then they might be out depending on their work ethic. General Miyanda i hope you are reading this, or one of your surbodinates; in 2001 Nevers destroyed your charge to Plot 1, that nevers is suspect. Christians and good samaritans of Zambia lets atleast prepare general Miyanda for 2011, My prayers start now. I love our Zambia.

  91. COMRADES THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS SATA SHOULD GO FOR REVIEW IN SOUTH AFRICA HIS THINKING CAPACITY HAS GONE DOWN THAT WHY HE IS TALKING CARELESS.COME 29 OCT WETHER HE LIKES IT OR NOT HIS DOCTORS WILL BE WAITING FOR HIM AT THE HOSIPITAL.LET HIM TELL THE PIPO THE TRUTH BEFORE I FINISH HIM.OR LET HIM NEGOTIATE WITH ME HOW SPARE HIM.RELAX AM IN CONTROL OF SATA THE COBRA.ITS JUST IN A BLINK OF AN EYE HE IS FINNISHED.TRY ME

  92. Is it true sata is due for review in south africa and he refuses to go until after the elections? Tizaona azakupeleka futi ku morningside. I don’t think we will allow the government to waste task payers’ money on this lun.. if the man dozn’t care about his health just for state house, why should pipo be made to pay for his medical bills? he shud have thot better and used that donor money for continuing treatment. Zambia can’t afford another presidential bye-election. GO RB GO. Show them the diplomats game.

  93. Maestro Hhehhehhehhe sad you have fallen prey to guyz that have being saying upnd is a party for tongas only,very sad indeed.We all know where unpd is coming from and we all the principles on which it was founded.UPND is still a great party,its not only for tongas and its a party of the future.Sorry to say under hh the party has failed to tick,face the truth.It needs reorganisation.How can that hh be struggling with madalas?

  94. #86. I hear you!.

    #81, even if anyone convinced you, you may not even vote come 30/10

    Anyway folks, ‘goodnite yo’ll

  97. #92, Zeca, here is data:
    Patriotic Front President Michael Sata says he does not need to go to South Africa for medical review. Responding to a question as to when his medical review is due, Mr. Sata says there are a lot of qualified medical doctors in Zambia. He says Zambian doctors will attend to him when need arises.Mr. Sata was in April this year flown to South Africa’s Milpark clinic for treatment after he suffered a severe heart attack. He is expected to go for review on October 29th 2008 a day before the Presidential election. And Mr. Sata has pledged to build capacity in the Ministry of health if elected President. Source: http://www.muvitv.com / news / pnew s166 . ht ml

  98. #97 continued!
    “He stressed the need to introduce monitoring mechanisms to ensure the side effects of drugs are clearly spelt out. Mr. Sata says many drugs are administered on patients without looking at the side effects. He was speaking in an interview with MUVI TV News yesterday.”

  99. #87, dont be bitter my brother…never put your heart and soul in the hands of these politicians, they may let you down like Sata has just done to his many educated supporters. Just for info: ask Maestro Hhehhehhehhe, I hear HH supports traditional ceremonies in Zambia, he supports a string of ophans and so on. I was disppointed in 2001 when Chiluba started misbehaving, I liked him. For now, follow the logic….and it points to HH atleast for now!

  100. MWEBANTU LET SATA TELL THE PIPO HOW HE IS GOING TO RULE THIS COUNTRY WITH 16 MP’S.ITS CLEAR THIS MAN HAS NO GUTS.ALL HIS POLICIES HAVE BEING WORKED ON BY MMD’S MONEY BANDA (RB)WANT IS HE GOING TO TALK ABOUT.NOTHING ONLY INSULTING HIS FELLOW CANDIDATES.WANT A LEADER YOU SHOULD HAVE WORKED WITH HH MY DEAR.

  102. #87, LETHAL.
    “HH has been doing a lot in terms of charity work.” HH paid for the 2 UNZA students at the UTH who were shot by the Zambia Police this year at the High cost ward when he found them in a normal ward without Medical Attention – on a day he was invited to State House for a party by late LPM. I short, I will simply say, “abakali tabalanda.”
    For more information ask Zambian people how much HH has help uplift lives of poor people in Luapula Province between 2006 and now. HH also took relief food to flood victims during the rain season this year – “where he told them that we as UPND has arrived earlier than the GRZ which was still looking for donor help then.

  103. # 80, good idea. From now on, promise me not to mention tribes, you have made your point. LT blogers presido and Zambian presido, I can support you…I cant wait for a day when the many trully educated Zambians will start to compete to lead Zambia….its long overdue. All of you educated fellas Zambia needs you. Imagine a race where the candidates are people like HH, Patrick Chisanga, Fundanga, Prof Chirwa, Magande, wouldnt that be great! You can see all this tribal nonsence can stop because candidates of high calibre wouldnt condon it in their campaigns…go Zambia go!

  104. Satamania is everywhere around the country! I campaigned at church yesterday and i proudly converted four eligible voters! Mwamukolo

  105. #93, choma1, it is all Sata’s Chiluba MMD and mmembe who paint us all Tongas as Tribal, but we will rise again because I am busy exposing the real Triablists in Zambia.
    choma1, I saw your posting a long time ago, but I am trying to help someone who thinks there is a problem with the Constitution and anyone can interpret the Zambian Constitution as he wants which is wrong. I lost track brief because I was looking SATA’s scheduled Medical Review Appointment in South Africa which I posted on #s 97 and 98.

  106. #103, I will try my best to adhere to your suggestions. Take care and Zambia here we come to redeem every Zambian despite of race, colour and tribe.

  109. BA #106 Maestro Hhehhehhehhe what a name my brother it just describes who u are.any i forgive you you dont know want you are doing

  110. “Peter asked Vice-President Banda to forgive all those who voted against him”. Why the word ‘FORGIVE’? Not everyone can vote for one candidate. If no people are opposing you, the know there is something wrong with you or the system or both. Please, read the post about the divisions in MMD.

  111. The gudnes o badnes is tht 98% of al u here wont vote,in short you are jst fantasizing n hu wil b wat,and hu wil lose.even wen u say,you hav changed your mind n hu to vote for,tht dosent hold any drop of wota,coz u wont vote..sum are nt even registerd voterz..wnda why thy waste their tym here..leave us hu wil vote have th last say.nt js blogin al day kwati nima votee..

  112. Iwe #112 Tufwee Chabee!!;-
    Ulibe na reg iwe. let pipo speak out. it’s not your one voter’s card that wil do it, its how many pipo you help see the truth. go on blogging. no one’s fighting. but true to PF style, everything’s is force, even the symbol for starters.

  113. Have you noticed that 98% of Sata’s supporters are;
    1. Not registered voters
    2. Those that wait to be spoonfed by government
    3. Those that are disgruntled and can’t be accepted in other camps
    4. Those that have nothin to do but derive pleasure in shouting that incomprehensible slogan.
    Wake up!!! U stil living in the past

  114. #112 there u ar tokin frm wthot..ati,i dnt hav a reg..vote dnt js post ur thots,im a vota,and im votin..nt js blogin

  115. One Maestro is having a field day!!! Today is your day…I am watching you with keen interest as you fall all over other contributors and despising them!!! Pa Bwato!!! No amount of propaganda will stop us. Mwa Mukolo

  116. Maestro worry about Daniel Munkombwe who is busy eating into chiefs and villages with state machinery and resources in both the valley and plateau!!

  118. Zizi give us a break napapata please!!! RB can only win if he riggs sure. FTJ never brought Image Builders Never..to market Levy…Zizi get a life and just wait for 30th October.

  120. RB dozed off on Sunday in church during a prayer service. this man has not even taken over but aleshipula sure!!! No pabwato!!

  121. #115,116,117, I have no problem with RBB winning the elections. I have a problem with a warm-blooded bemba-tribalist, selfappointed, unelected PF leader and undereducated with dictatorial tendencies Micheal Chilufya Sata to win the 30th October 2008 elections.
    HH, General miyanda and RBB in that order are not bad to be Zambian Presidents and can be President without my concern.

    I hope this suffices to you that whether president HH loses or not is not my problem. President HH is just my preferred candidate because he is the best candidate and thats all.

  122. #89, The Voice, good mornig to you fellow Zambian Citizen, you called on me with “# 77. Don’t you think there is a loophole here. If one had to be technical, you can argue that the constitution says “two five year terms”. 3 does not equall to 5. So I think it all depends on how the judges would interpret “two terms”.”

    My answer for you #89, The Voice, will be a long one and I hope you follow through all my subsequent postings from this one upto where I will end.

  123. #89, the Zambian Republic Constitution that we are currently using is the one that was developed in 1996 by the Chiluba MMD Administration with Sata as a participant. Here we go!

  124. Article 34 Election of President
    (1)..
    (2) An election to the office of President shall be held whenever the NATIONAL A S S E M B L Y IS DISSOLVED and otherwise as provided by Aritcle 38.

    Analysis: take note the dissolution of the National A s s em b l y is cardinal here.

  125. Article 35 Tenure of Office of President
    (1) Subject to clause (2) and (4) every president shall hold office for a period of five years.
    (2) Notwithstanding anything to the contrary contained in this Constitution or any other Law no person who has twice been elected as president shall be eligible for re-election to that office.

  126. Munya be realistic. How do I give u break when you want to feed this country to the vultures? What image building has the post done for sata? if RB has image builders, they must be doing a gud job… just watch the man talk. FTJ en Levy are nt an issue here… and probably you are still lagging behind and don’t know that the country is moving forward…pipo at what rate should development grow? Anyone who is a hardworker today in Zed can boast about basic amenities only failures will shout pawatoooo without meaning. About uncle HH? Well it was all very wrong timimg for him. He had one trump card for 2011 but he’s played it too early. Munya lets meet here on the 2.11.08 same time…..

  127. …Article 35 continued…
    (3) ..
    (4) A Person a s s u m i n g the office of President in a c c o r d a n c e with this Constitution shall, unless-
    a. ..
    b. He ceases to hold office by virtue of Article 36 or 37; or
    c. The National A s s e m b l y is dissolved;
    Continues in office until the person elected at the next election to the office of President a s s u m es office.

  128. You pipo supporting Satan, look at what he is saying. Those are dictatorial tendencies which if you vote Satan, you should be prepared to live with. The man is saying that when he is elected, we wont have presidential elections in 2011. Think twice b4 you can your precious vote for Satan.

  129. Analysis: take note that (2) provides for 2 Presidential Terms only to hole office. Also (4,c and the later part of everything) indicates that any President shall unless The National A s s e m b ly is dissolved continue in office until the next election.

  130. Article 71 Tenure of Office of Members of National A s s e m b l y
    (1) Every member of the National A s s e m b l y, with the exception of the Speaker, shall vacate his seat in the A s s e m b l y upon the dissolution of the National A s s e m b l y.

    Analysis: an MP shall have his seat ended when the National A s s e m b l y is DISSOLVED.

  132. Article 88 Dissolution of Parliament and Related matters
    (6) Subject to clause (9) the national A s s e m b l y –
    a. Shall, unless sooner dissolve, continue for five years from the date of its sitting after the commencement of theis Constitution or after any dissolution and shall then stand dissolved;
    b. May, by a two thirds majority of the members thereof dissolve itself; or
    c. May be dissolved by the President at any time.

    Analysis: provisions on how the National A s s e m b l y is dissolved.

  133. Maestro Hhehhehhehhe
    I can feel you are a wiseman. I have no big problem with HH just that there is still something missing about him; his confidence and probably like Zizi has said the timimg is wrong. I however have a problem with the Serpent, that cobra that every lazy Zambian thinks can intercede on their behalf to have manner fall from heaven and quails or is Zamchik rain on their doorsteps – far fetched dreams these pawato guys have adopted.. by the way he has even promised to give back the bus stations to you know who… they are already boasting they will have full control of the stations again….

  134. Article 88 Dissolution of Parliament and Related matters continued.
    (7) Whenever the National A s s e m b l y is dissolved under this Article, there shall be Presidential elections and elections to the National A s s e m b l y and first session of the new Parliament shall commence within three months from the date of dissolution.

    Analysis: each time the national A s s e m b l y is dissolved Presidential and Parliamentary elections have to be held.

  135. Article 88 Dissolution of Parliament and Related matters continued.
    (9) If, after a dissolution of Parliament and before the holding of the general elections, the President considers that owing to the existence of a state of war or of a state of emergency in Zambia or any part thereof, it is necessary to recall Parliament that has been dissolved to meet and that Parliament shall be deemed to be the Parliament for the time being, but the general election of members of the national A s s e m b l y shall proceed and the Parliament that has been recalled shall, if not sooner dissolved again, stand dissolved on the day for the nomination of candidates in that general

  136. Analysis: provisions in which Parliament can be resuscitated for a while although elections are inevitable and eminent in the shortest possible time.

  137. AM SURE FRED MmEEMBE WILL BE VERY HAPPY TO SEE SATANA RULE TILL 2011 SO THAT HE CAN BE GIVING HIM HEADLINE NEWS ADDRESSING SUFFERING PIPO WHILE HIMSELF AND CRONIES ARE BUSY STRIPPING ZAMBIA OF IT’S WEALTH THIS GRADE 4 SNAKE IS VERY CRAFTY DO NOT GIVE HIM ANY CHANCE YOU WILL CRY.

  138. So, #89, The Voice, my fellow Zambian Citizen, there is no condfusion in interpreting the Zambian constitution, thank god some of us went to school and we can not be duped by Sata’s current mouthpiece The POST because we are not gullible.
    Now, SATA has been in politics since werensky’s time in the colonial days and also participated in making this our courrent Zambian Republican Constistution into Law in 1996 yet he (sata) does not know what is contained in it.
    What does this entail?
    The answer is that SATA might have been sleeping in Parliament after drinking some nice drinks or tea/coffee.

  139. THE THING IS IF SATANA GET ERECTION HE WILL BE IMPEACHED BY PARLIARMENT THATS THE STRATERGY OF MMD .THERE IS NO WAY THAT MMD WILL LET THIS LUNATIC TO RULE EVEN FOR A MONTH.WE HAVE THE NUMBERS IN PARLIAMENT SO WE USE THEM AGAINST HIM VERY HARD AND AS YOU KNOW HE HATES TO BE OPPOSED,HE’S SO ERRATIC AND EMOTIONAL AND ABRUPT GOOD FOR FARM WORKER NOT MANAGER.

  140. In case you missed what I have posted #89So, #89, The Voice, in simple language now:
    when the current Parliament shall be dissolved in 2011, the President who will win the 30th October, 2008 if he will still be President then has to have his mandate cancelled together with the MPs. The new Presidential and General elections will be held where all will be elected again. If the Zambian President who will win this 30th October, 2008 election will win again in 2011, it means he will have had his 2 Terms of Office finished will therefore not be elligible to stand in the 2016 Presidential elections.
    This is where it ends. i hope this will/has been useful to you. Have a blessed day.

  141. Zambia is greater than any individual. This must be made clear to Sata. KK, our wonderful founding father cut his term short for zambia’s sake. FTJ was forced to capitulate on his third term. Zambians, do you really want to please an egocentric, illiterate, dagga smoker just because he comes from your region? just because you think he will favour you? Can you honestly trust a dagga smoker? Look at the fights within PF; no party cards, no elected executive committee and you think you can give the presidency to such an ensemble? Think!! Think about your future and DONT vote for SATAN.

  142. MUMBA DONT WORRY. WE WILL VOTE FOR SATA EVEN IN 2011 BECAUSE HE WILL DEFINITELY PERFORM BEYOND EXPECTATIONS. HE IS CURRENTLY THE ONLY MAN IN ZAMBIA WITH SUCH PRE-FIX. AND # 139 SATA IS NOT THE NAME YOU ARE GIVING HIM. LUNATICS DONT BRING MEDICINE IN HOSPITALS WHEN THEY ARE MINISTERS OF HEALTH. THEY SQUANDER THE MONEY FOR SUCH FACILITIES. HOWEVER YOU HATE HIM THE MAN IS WINNING THE ELECTIONS. BECAUSE IT IS THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE OF ZAMBIA. JUST SEE ‘THE POST’. YOUR MAN RB IS SLEEPING IN CHURCH. EVEN WHEN HE GOES TO TOILET HE SLEEPS. ZAMBIA CANNOT AFFORD TO HAVE A SLEEPY LEADER. AT LEAST AT THIS POINT IN TIME WHEN WE NEED WORKING MEN/WOMEN.

  143. #126, 133 and 140. You have all issued great data, but please #140 your tome of language on an elderly senior Zambian Citizens is unfortunate.
    KK has already summed up everything about Sata that Sata is not Presidential material. Sata’s undereducation is the biggest problem he is having.
    This is why I am humbly asking him (Sata) to seriously consider sitting for Grade 7 exams next year, Grade 9 ones in 2010 and grade 12 ones in 2011. After that Sata can do some simple Computer Course in one of those colleges in Lusaka. The Sata will be ripe to stand for Zambian President in2016 to possibly take it from where HH might leave it (see #77).

  144. #143, Peter, I hope you have mistaken me for someone else for i have failed to find sense in your pointing to me. For once #143 Sata and Mmembe are both Bemba-Tribalists who want to make Bemba a national Language. How then can I – a well read Zambian – trust and confide in the PROPAGANDA news written by the POST newspaper.

  145. once upon a time frogs had no leader so they asked god for a leader to lead them, so god sent them a log (ichimuti)the frogs were very happy they stayed with the log unfortunately it never made any decisions, advise them, or preside over any issue so the frogs petitioned god again to give them a proper leader and not a docile one, so god sent them a very big snake which ended up eating all the frogs. those with ears,ear

  146. #143, I was r e a r e d in the Southern Province which has greater voting numbers than Northern and Luapula provinces. I was in Livingstone and Mazabuka some 1 month ago.

  147. #143, I was in Livingstone and Mazabuka about 1 month ago. I have r e l a t i v e s in Mongu and Senanga (Western Province) and I have been to those p l a c e s.

  148. #143, I have r e l a t i v e s in both Kitwe and Ndola, a lot of former UNZA c l a s s m a t e s and friends working for mines in CB. I have relatives in Solwezi – Northwestern Province. I have relatives in Chipata, Eastern province. Central Province, I have my aunt’s family.
    The truth of the matter is that this PROPAGANDA by Fred Mmembe and SATA of the so-called satamania is not there on the ground – may be in Northern and Luapula Province.

  149. I am here to save you all PF supporters from crying, havaving unnecessary heartattacks and being beaten up by the Zambia Army soldiers on the 2nd November 2008. Let those with ears hear for we are in what Dennis liwewe normally used to call “dying minutes”.

    Countdown: 8 days 22 hours 30 minutes remaining and we are counting.
    Vote for real and effective change by casting your ballot for HH to create a safe future for your Children, your Grandchildren and your many generations of relatives to come after you. Zambia Forward.

  150. Wise people should be able to connect the dots now!! Ever heard of a disease called Dementia(check it out on google) you guys. Early onset is somewhere in the 50’s. That’s why people here have issues with McCain (Same age with Sata)

  151. LT has been good so far. One thing is lucking though, you have little research or you do not research at all before commenting on some issues. For example when, where, and exactly what did Sata say about no elections in 2011? We want to keep these on record. If it not true we also keep on record those propaganda.

  153. Leadership vaccume.Zambia a country at tumiol so many with degrees but no where to be found in the political circles they submit their fates to those of little meaning because even them though with degrees are of little meaning.Even those we wish to bet our lives on live to disappoint us at the very last moment.From independence Zambia has been ruled by only one president with a degree.How many graduates has the country produced and where are they.We must not complain when we have aspirant candidates like Sata,this is what the country has got.For now i quit i will come back in 2011 with my vote.At this very moment no one impresses me.

  158. KK once before advised the Zambian nation against voting for the late LPM for presidency bcoz of his health, as a nation we didnt heed the advice we ended up with a state funeral.He has once again advised against voting for SATA bcoz of SATA,s dectatarial tendences and health.Before being ushered into office SATA is already saying there wont be a presidential election in 2011. The man is scaring us, he might be president forever if voted into office.With state machinery at his dispoasal you and I will not cough or say a word.The writing is on the wall.Wait and see.

  162. The Post is not helping us! If the other candidates, other than Sata, had said there would be no elections in 2011, it would have hit the headline and editorial in Post! Don’t give the Cobra a vote,if you do we shall be like our neighbours in Zim. Remember, Uncle Bob is his idol! Lets unite and vote for a credible leader. Pray and make a wise choice. Say No to the dictator!

  164. I am one person who has never trusted Sata. Ask FTJ he knows the kind of a snake Sata is. FTJ opted for the late LPM in 2001 and avoided to pick Sata and the rest to succeed FTJ in 2001. The worst mistake Zambian will ever make is to vote for Sata. Atleast HH will make some sense. Atleast if not this year, Zambians should elect HH in 2011. My message to HH is to incorporate all Zambians in the UPND irrespective of tribe. The problem with UPND again is that its synonimous with tonga tribe. I foresee a situation where RB will continue. But 2011 should surely be for HH. I by that time, the young man will have gained alot experience politicalwise.

  165. Constitutional issues are not SATAs cup of tea and once in there the real ignoring of constitutional issues will surface.He knows what he is talking about when he says that.He willl push for an amandment of the constitution through manipulation the FTJ way and he will be there for five,ten or Mugabe way.Be warned Zambians.Are there no young men in 40s in Zambia with the calibre to take the Country forward please?these tired men are not taking us anyway the all look like John Mcain,feable,frail and fragile.

  166. Sata is a foo! and a joke. Other countries will be laughing at us as to why we have elected such a !unatic for a president of all the people sure.

  167. It is clear, whoever gets into power when he becomes president he has also to abide to the law and no one can change that even Sata knows i dont know why he is trying to be funny.
    Sata will win these election but he will just have to finish this term prove to the nation that he is the material we are looking for in these 3 years then we vote for him for the next term.

  168. I saw SATA being interviewed in MUVI TV by Frank Mutubila. SATA’s biggest weakness is that the thing he knows how to do best is point to problems, and yet doesnt offer workable solutions. And also, the man was looking very tired, and was only saying things from his head. I dont think PF even has a manifesto. PF starts and ends with SATA. I dont think we are in an era where we can run a country by just decisions that someone just dreams of and thinks they are right. Lets vote wisely Zambians

  169. if you are lazy you will remain lazy, we want hard working men and women! people who will have something to show after their terms of office come to an end.the world is now a global vilage only lazy people hate “KING COBRA” all the other issues we are raising of him becoming dictatarial are immaterial as they will not help this situation at the moment,if he thinks he’s going to be a dictator after we give him this job time will tell,we will chuck him out after
    three years.lower taxes and more money in the pockets! who does’t want development by the way?

  170. Guys all those calling Sata names of being dictatorial, have you closely looked at the constitution? Article 34 is the only one that stipulates the exact tenure of a president. I reasoned with Sata in the sense that he is not a legal expart but in his mind he has what is written in the constitution. The articles 34, 35 & 88 also talk about dissolution of parliament but its not automatic that parley has to be dissolved every 5 years. It can be dissolved any time. Our current const does not EXPLICITY address the issue of continuity as is the case of the MUN’GOMBA DRAFT const currently being DELAYED by the NCC. Bye elections for the president have to be held under conditions stipulated by

  171. Whether anybody likes it or not ni pa bwatooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
    Tukalamitakafye lionse.
    We are born to rule you.
    Call him Dull, backward, sick, mad, standard six, name it the way you want.
    He is the next president. He is above and can change the law.
    Who remembers the creation of the law about car theft being unbailable in Zambia? He created it and then he got caught in it.
    Viva pa bwatoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

  172. LT work on your damn site, if some one is uploading while the other person is doing the same, you should put a way of retrieving the un posted comment ala.

  174. #169 Ba Ndola. You sound like you understand the world. Have you seen the honour Festus Mohae former presido of Botswana has received? Men of integrity retire when they are sick, too old, or caught in any act that compromises the status of a nation. Mohae gave way simply to the younger generation leader, Ian Khama. Such are leaders that make their countries part of the global world. Do you see what is going on in Israel?
    Voting Sata for Presido is similar to voting for Mugabe into power in this era.
    Zambia will go no where with Sata.
    Viva HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

  176. Mc Cain, Bush,Sata, RB and such old leaders are now history.
    The new dispensation of world leaders is immerging on the world scene.
    Zambia can not afford to remain in the dark being led by sick, too old, illiterates chaps that hve been politicking for way over 50 yrs now.
    Viva young generation, Viva HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

  177. #175, the best you can do is read the constitutions, the current 1996 amended and the mung’omba draft, i bet you will realize how tricky LAW is. Mind you, Law to lawyers has to faces and it depends on which side of the mirror you are. This is technically called “INTERPRETATION OF THE LAW”. The same article given to Sata will be interpreted differently from George Kunda or Mumba Malila. Why are we crying for a new constitution? Its becoz of such ambiguous articles. Iam not a supporter of Micaheal Sata nor do i hold any card for any political party but am a voter.

  178. contd from #170
    article 34. Its only the Mun’gomba draft const which clearly states that in case of a presidential bye election, the president elect will just continue for the “UN EXPIRED TERM” which implies like in this case 3 years up to 2011. Unless they bring in harmony articles 34, 35 and 88, we will have gray areas in our constitution. The case at hand now is NOVEL in the history of Zambia, so even the NCC, must be careful on this one too.

  179. Where is the Post on this careless statement from Sata? Had it been RB, the Post could have come out strong with maliciuos venom. This is a serious constitutional issue and Sata means it; that once President, no more Presidential elections.

  180. I would have been very very sad if Sata said after these elections, there will be no presidential elections again. But he was not mincing his words, he said elections will be held after 5 years meaning this is not at all the sign of a dictator. He was simply quoting article 34 only i bet and he didnt read article 35 and 88. But come 30th october we will have a new president who will according to the attorney general will rule only for 3 years.

  183. Speaking at a public rally in Kabwe at the weekend, Mr Sata said that whoever would emerge winner in the October 30 election was expected to reign for five years and therefore there would only be parliamentary and local government elections in 2011.

    Mr Sata said that apart from in the case of death and incapacitation, anyone elected President of Zambia was supposed to rule for five years and therefore the next elections would be in 2013, five years from now.

  184. The problem with sata is that he can easily override the law of the land and do as he pleases. So dont take him lightly on his declaration that there will be no elections in 2011; if he wins on 30 Oct, the first thing he will do is to dissolve the NCC so that presidential powers remain unchanged and he will abuse his powers big time. Im just wondering why PF supporters are such blind-followers that they see sense in sata’s threat to cancel the 2011 election. How come the same people didnt advocate for the cancellation for this upcoming bye-election? This sata man is a threat to the peace that zambians have taken for granted.

  185. Does the Zambian Constitution have provision for elected presidents to be rulers? I just wonder why the president is being referred to as a ruler or ascribed to rule the nation. Zambia is a democracy and the president should, in fact MUST be a LEADER. Lets take note the difference between a ruler and a leader. Voting for SATA will imply endorsing a ruler who may make absolute decisions in governing the nation. If the sentiments attributed to SATA are anything to go by, then voting him into office, spells DOOM for Zambia.

  186. … the 20th century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: The growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy.

    Sata is generally misunderstood because of his tenacity to want to see things done and stir people in the right direction.

    VIVA MWAMUKOLO>>>>

  187. Guys a Person standing for Position 1 in a country should know better or consult but no the captain of the Zambian titanic runs the show alone. Doesnt consult and will seek to run the country the same way….. yield to the warning signs.

    Vote for intelligent pipo who can bring real change not sweet talking.

  188. Our consitution needs serious amendments. These are issues NCC should tackle beyond party lines. Sata is so brilliant. Pabwato!

  189. As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their hearts desire at last, and State House will be adorned by a downright moron, if we do not Vote for one Chilufya Sata.

    VOTE PABWAAATOOOO>>>>

  191. All PF cadres and Supporters, take and note and inform your uneducated President to interpret the constitution. Attorney General has guided you as opposed to what Satamania is preaching about in rallies.
    Zambians watch out for this Colonial COnstable who is an exact replica of ZANU-PF President Mugabe.

  192. All PF cadres and Supporters, take note and inform your uneducated President to interpret the constitution. Attorney General has guided you as opposed to what Satamania is preaching about in rallies.
    Zambians watch out for this Colonial COnstable who is an exact replica of ZANU-PF President Mugabe.

  193. #186
    I dont think we have misunderstood Sata. We know him just to well to trust him with so much power. We respect his energy but if a man cant listen to others and does things by himself then he qualifies to be a dictator….. if you think that that is misunderstanding then we cant help you … I hope you are in Zambia because i’ll take it u are as heartless as your leader…..

  194. A “BY-ELECTION” is a special election held between general elections to fill a vacancy – wikipidia

    How dull can one get to think this is a general election. You guys who are subscribing to this kind of folly amaze me.

  195. Among the four prsidential aspirants, only Sata and HH were able to see the flaws pertaining to this particular constitution article. I believe the rest have not taken the initiative to read and understand it. Way to go Sata!!!

  196. we all know sata’s inadequacies among which is poor educational background, dictatorial tendencies, callous langauge. but we choose to ignore all these facts. is it because of tribe, region..??

  197. #174 let’s not misunderstand each other here,let’s be objective we are the right people who knows what is best for Zambia,the choice i will make today may be different in 2011, we want development. I am one of the few Zambian’s who was disappointed with the loss of UPND in 2001, so all I am saying is we all have a right to choose where you want to belong. we may Know a lot about the so called HH which we may not want to bring in here.
    I personally don’t like tribal politic’s.

  198. #193
    Don’t let the flag mislead you i am in Zambia and very much privy to what is happening on the ground. I truly value and respect your analysis on Mr. Sata, just a word of caution open your eyes, remove the blinds of partisanship and anything that might stand in the way of well and intelligent perception and see things outside those boxes, you are going to find the truth and for real you will see true change u can believe.

  199. This constitution is not clear on this issue, we really need to chnge it, it has a lot of contradictions. This issue will be subject to serious debate regardless of whoever wins and iam sure it will be a talking point real soon

  200. FYI am not heartless and so is M. Sata…

    Remineder, Vote for Micheal Chilufya Sata, Man of action.

    Indeed Vote for change you can Believe!!!

  201. It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbled, or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes short again and again, who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, and spends himself in a worthy cause, who at best knows achievement and who at the worst if he fails at least fails while daring greatly so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat.

  202. In PF thats what we believe and we know that things are going to be better for all Zambians.

    VOTE PABWATO>>>>

  204. All you people on this Blog, your criticism is welcome and valued because without it we are too oblivious to a lot of mistakes we make in our pursuit of the Presidency, but your ever opened eyes have exposed us to our weaknesses and we are willing to work hard so that we fight our short comings.

    VOTE FOR MICHEAL SATA MAN OF ACTION!

    VOTE PABWATO!!!

  205. #200 Mudala… i think i cant understand you. If we dont base on wholistic data then .I think that your support is not based on the Character/ability but something else….
    I read this blog hoping someone we’ll help me see what they see in Sata…. All i see is support for an exciting ride.
    If you tell me that you are comfortable with having a dictator, one that publicly disrespects others…. Then i would rather be in my box coz I know for one that it is bigger than yours.

  206. Osama My friend what happened to the Pastor title?! How are you?! my goodness i thought i had lost you to these unfaithful MMD hooligans. Good to see you, i hear your friend Pastor Shetani preached a good message on the Sunday issue…

    VOTE PABWATO>>>>

  207. This is SATA’S DREAM FOR ZAMBIA…
    I look forward confidently to the day when all who work for a living will be one with no thought to their separateness as Bembas, Tongas, Lozis, Nyanjas or any other distinctions. This will be the day when we bring into full realization the Zambian dream — a dream yet unfulfilled. A dream of equality of opportunity, of privilege and property widely distributed; a dream of a land where men will not take necessities from the many to give luxuries to the few….

    Go On Read On….

  209. #205….a dream of a land where men will not argue that a TRIBE determines the content of his character; a dream of a nation where all our gifts and resources are held not for ourselves alone, but as instruments of service for the rest of humanity; the dream of a country where every man will respect the dignity and worth of the human personality…Therefore, because your box is way to big than everyone else’s you fail to see these attributes in Mr. Sata. this much has convinced me to support him.

  211. My friend #205, you know what a man believes upon grossly insufficient evidence is an index into his desires — desires of which he himself is often unconscious. If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is explained in this way.
    OPEN YOUR EYES!

  212. Judge Mr. Sata in your own understanding and capacity do not be made to think otherwise based on desire which you are unconscious of.

    VOTE SATA!

  213. Abash dictatorial/ Mugabeish /Satanish/ mentality

    “ITS INDEED IGNORANCE AT THE PRESIDENTIAL LEVEL” Zambians don’t imbalance yourselves,we respect your young democracy.Us Zimbabweans are shamed of ourselves.I wish those suppoting Sata could come to Zimbabwe and see the bullish & dictaorial nonsense exibited by Mugabe.

    Zambians we are watching you.All the best.

    Zimbabwean

  214. Zimbabwean all the best with your issues and wish you and all your country men and women a quick economical recovery as you sort out your issues…

    we are with you!

    But Zambians know better that we do not have any Bobs around here, coz there is only on and apparently he s your country, we Have Rupiah Banda, Hakainde Hichilema, General Miyanda and Mr. Micheal Chilufya Sata man of the moment.

  215. There is nothing wrong with the constitution,but there is something wrong with Zedians. In SA they now have a president who is expected to rule for seven months max, before the election.Whats wrong with that. Remember democracy is expensive.Just look to sensible people who can understand simple constitutional provisions and not dictators who want to mislead pipo.

  216. “All those contesting should know their limits when elected. It should not be an election issue to stay or not to stay in power after 2011 because it is already stated in the constitution,” he said.
    United Church of Zambia (UCZ) Copperbelt Presbytery Bishop Committee Njase described Mr Sata’s stance on 2011 elections as the beginning of the opposition leader’s downfall.
    Bishop Njase said it was surprising that Mr Sata could start bending the constitution when he was not even president.
    “This is the time Zambians should analyse the presidential candidates. The statement by Mr Sata should not be entertained because the constitution is clear on the elections.
    Source: Times of Zambia

  217. I would like to join my two coleagues from Zimbabwe and S.A to warn you Zambians about voting for Dictators. Simply shocking that one of your candidates could openly declare to over rule your constitution.

    Zimbabweans have suffered enough and we would not want to see Zambia go Zimbabwe way.

  219. Some candidates want to remove democracy from Zambia. Right now we have the right to vote but one of the candidates in the name of Sata wants to take that right away from the citizens by denying them chance to vote in 2011. That thinking is taking us back to KK’s time.
    We need a leader who will not take advantage of any unclear clauses in the constitution but one who will seek to improve on or use the positive part of our existing constitution for the betterment of our people and not for selfish ambitions.
    What Mr Sata said is quite worrying from our senior citizen. Why should we begin to see characteristics of Mugabe in our own leaders here in Zambia? Such is not good for our people.

  220. Maestro Hhehhehhehhe my friend let us not disillusion ourselves here you know,those who have seen the Earth from space, and for the hundreds and perhaps thousands more who will, the experience most certainly changes your perspective. The things that we share in our world are far more valuable than those which divide us… its nothing to it than a mere political propaganda! and we are ready for more pf these as we draw closer to elections…

  221. LT can you work on your website please? Do you know that people in different parts can send the comment at the same time? queue them and publish them rather than comments going in water ala

  222. Wow thats good rhetoric #214.
    You lost me somewhere i think u r way to clever for me. I thought i subscribed to the values you were mentioning but its like an eqaution … similar variables but we end up with different answers.. Your answer Sata mine HH.
    Folly is to do the same thing twicw and expect different results…
    Sata has been around for a while and i dont know how you expect different results from him.

  223. PF’s Sata is not himself. I have never liked it when he opens his mouth but i do not know what he is really up to in this race. Come on PF! We dont need onother presido by-election. You are busy,blindly sailing this old Patient in your boat. I watched his interview with Frank yesterday,surelly the man should go for review at MSC in SA before its too late.He could hardly finish a sentence before he took a hard breath.GO GO RB.

  224. I think we should get back to the days of communisim, we cant have a president who clearerly shows has personnal ambitions. No Dictatorship twapapata…..4real winna azalila.

    Viva..Viva

  225. These PF cadres and leaders need being not only examined but also checked. Look at how our Kwacha has tumbled in the recent few days cause they are busy preaching Zambianisation of all firms and investors are dead scared now. How will they build houses and change things in 90 days? They are a banch of jockers without any economic ideas busy misleading KAPONYA’S . TWAKANA!

  226. A man who preaches ought himself to walk the talk…. its for that reason that we dont allow crooked pipo to preach…. one must walk the talk..
    Talk is cheap and any pank with a mouth can talk But our role as the electorate is to way the preacher against their profile..and it is here where we differ because you see somethings and cast a blind eye and ear to others. i rest my case boyi walikosa umutwe

  228. Unfortunately Psycho Mata cannot not even read let alone interpret the law. How will he be able to manage and interpret the complex issues of governance? Look at his team, I cannot even count with my one hand the people capable of to be in the cabinet. I guess he will source from Kolima tower and City Market. What we need is a a vibrant leader, dynamic, articulate, and of integrity. Does Pyscho Mata or what is his (Bwezani ku my 60s) have any of this qualities? Absolutely not.

  229. No.14, do not call Mr. Sata a dog. How would you feel if your own father or grandfather was called a dog? Even as you debate, you must use decent language and respect everyone, especially people who are a lot older than you are. Mr. Sata is old enough to be your grandfather and he deserves your respect. If you do not change,you will be cursed-not by Mr. sata, but by God Himself. The word of God is very clear about this.

  231. LT you also don’t listen. This discussion could easily be concluded is to listened to my earlier advice. Please give us a clear article on “where the condidates stand: comparing them on issues and more, e.g.,their background, education, previous jobs, community service and the tools they have upstairs (brains)” Do not behave like the POST that has chosen to support PF at the expense of our beloved mother Zambia. For those of you with access to Times, Daily and POST please educate them as we don’t want another Zimbabwe and those who adore the leadership of poverty (common sense) hanguing our neighbour.

  232. Ati (Picnic Farm) for those seeking Political Fun
    when you decide to get serious come…
    VOTE HHH
    For specifics and not mere talk,,,For Economic stability, Economic diversity, Job creation, Free Education, Better salaries for Civil servants… better tax regime( First deduction after 1,300,000)

  233. THE Post!!! They cudn’t even report Sata’s childish but alarming statement in Kabwe? Wena Mmeembe mwana a Bomanyambe kwa malengwa.. waluswabisa. You and Malupenga are a DISGRACE to this nation and the Journalism profession. SHAME on yah guyz.

  235. YOUR EXLECENCE RB,AM KINDLY REQUESTING YOU TO APPOINT MR SATA AS INSPECTOR OF POLICE(IG).I STRONGLY BELIEVE THE OLD MAN WILL APPRECIATE AND DELIVER LATER DEAL WITH THE POST.

  236. Sata was wrong about the by elections so please ba president we are only giving you 3 years and HH Or Magande to take over and not RB.

  237. MYTHOLOGY, n. The body of a primitive people’s beliefs concerning its origin, early history, heroes, deities and so forth, as distinguished from the true accounts which it invents later. HH’s victory is a myth and Sata’s is a reality…

    VOTE PABWAAATOOOOO>>>>

  238. It is, therefore, a mistake to regard myth as an inferior mode of thought, which can be cast aside when human beings have attained the age of reason. Mythology is not an early attempt at history, and does not claim that its tales are objective fact. Like a novel, an opera or a ballet, myth is make-believe; it is a game that transfigures our fragmented, tragic world, and helps us to glimpse new possibilities by asking ‘what if?’ – a question which has also provoked some of our most important discoveries in philosophy, science and technology.

  239. … with that myth of HH’s victory we can discover true victory and new ways of governing this country through Micheal Sata….

    VIVA UBWAAAAATOOOOOOOO>>>>>>

  240. In the first place the POST itself has no regard for law.
    That is why they could go into ‘contempt’. Going into contempt is one of the surest sign that someone has no regard for law. It used to be very difficult to understand why M’membe went to study law. but now i know that he went to do law in order to familiarise himself with the loopholes in our consitution so that he can take advantage of them just like his candidate, Mr Michael Sata. He went to do law so that he can abuse his priviledge of owning a midea organisation. I can also guess that SATA campaigned against the NNC so that the constitution remains as it is, giving too many powers to the president, so that he can abuse it.

  241. What do we mean by patriotism(PF) in the context of our times? I venture to suggest that what we mean is a sense of national responsibility … a patriotism which is not short, frenzied outbursts of emotion, but the tranquil and steady dedication of a lifetime.

    VIVA PF!

    VOTE PABWAAAAATOOOOOO>>>>>

  242. I have always asked myself a question that if Valentine Chitalu was President of UPND and HH Vice, would the tribal tag or issue of experience fall into play. How many votes did the MMD get from Southern Province in 1991 as compared to Northern & Luapula? Ba Sata has so many skeletons in his closet and the Post that digs deeper will not do it for us because they now favour Sata who is a Bemba. What we want is critical analysis of all the candidates and so that we could judge for ourselves. In my opinion tribalism emenates from the bemba, what langauge is ubwato as seen on ZNBC TV advert? Please lets embrace all languages in our campaign if we are to be a national party!!!!!!!!!

  243. Iwe The spectator what is happening in your head. Why all these long meaningless postings. Just admit it sata is wrong.

  245. This is why the constitution must spell-out clearly what happens when such situations occured. We need a law that commits a presidential candidate to have a running mate so there can be continuation when problems like these show their faces on the scene. Otherwise having Sata as president with this raw and sick constitution, you are calling for trouble in our beloved country. Don’t say you were not told. HH is material for president.

  246. #238 The Spectator, instead of propounding issues that do not add value to people’s lives, please respond to what #232 is citing:

    “For specifics and not mere talk,,,For Economic stability, Economic diversity, Job creation, Free Education, Better salaries for Civil servants… better tax regime( First deduction after 1,300,000)”

    What does the Grave 4 has to offer the people of Zambia?
    Lets be realistic, why to you send your children (if any) to school if you choose offer the post powerful job in the country to an unducated dictator who doen’t know the constitution of the country he aspires to RUL and never grown even a mango tree for agriculture,etc.?

  250. i have deliberately avoided answering that Question because yesterday we had a similar discussion on the blog over GDP and i was not answered as the person i was discussing with went mute on me, i think i had addressed those issues yesterday…

    Ba Sata is the incoming President!!

  252. Kwena Sata amitolosha ba MMD. Look at the way you are panicking. Fertilizer from 200,000 to 50,000. No loadshedding for the past one week. Hope no more loadshedding. Kwashala ama pensioneers to get the retirement packages. We should be having presidential elections every year. Pabwato!!!

  257. These are the strengths of the current Ministry of finance:
    GDP is considered the broadest indicator of economic output and growth.
    Real GDP takes inflation into account, allowing for comparisons against other historical time periods.
    The Ministry of Finance issues its own analysis document with each GDP release, which is a great investor tool for analyzing figures and trends, and reading highlights of the very lengthy full release.
    FOOD FOR THOUGHT….

  258. AND THESE ARE THE WEAKNESSES:

    Data is not very timely – it is only released quarterly.

    Revisions can change historical figures measurably (the difference between 3% and 3.5% GDP growth is a big one in terms of monetary policy) NIKA DYONKO CHABE AKA! SO PF will sort out all this discrepancy…..

  259. Ni ulule!!! Ati ubwato bwafilwa ukusamba mu Zambezi kwa haye!!! it has since been put on a VW Old bus back to Lusaka where cadres are disiluusiones enough to swim in air…..

  260. #246 we can talk more on those issue if you have time then we can later transfer or translate it to what will mean in relation to poverty, education,AIDS and all other social aspects.

    VOTE FOR SATA!!

  261. nde longa katudu wandi, ndeyisa ku luzeki, inchinto yamoneka. plazi nde fwaya bondi iyikali mu luzeki. Zambia chalo chesu nomba.

  263. #259 Change you can believe for real ndiwe mwamuna…yet totally blinded by misconceptions. I like you man!

    VIVA UBWAAATOOOOOO>>>>>

  264. 248,The Spectator!!
    You are no longer a spectator. Instead you are now a “Returning Officer” who should announce results to us that SATA has won and will be the next president. How SATA win election when some of us who support are seing danger in his calls for no elections in 2011, and are changing mind for other candidates. When we support a candidate we dont do so regardless of what they do; rather we expect them to meet our aspirations as citizens. It will be blind following for me to see danger but continue to support a particular candidate.
    The Bible says, “A wise man will see trouble and avoid it, but a fool will see trouble and go right into it”.

  265. 248 The Spectator!!
    You are no longer a spectator. Instead you are now a “Returning Officer” who should announce results to us that SATA has won and will be the next president. How SATA win election when some of us who support are seing danger in his calls for no elections in 2011, and are changing mind for other candidates. When we support a candidate we dont do so regardless of what they do; rather we expect them to meet our aspirations as citizens. It will be blind following for me to see danger but continue to support a particular candidate.
    The Bible says, “A wise man will see trouble and avoid it, but a a simple man will see trouble and go right into it”.

  266. iwe fine fi bible panse, ifwe pa bwato ulefwaya nangu tauelefwaya. The people need more money in the pocket than the bible. Nipa bwato fye. Ati bible bible kuti walya bible iwe.

  267. How does one describe the behaviour of MMD cadres last weekend? They beat up journalists from MUVI and ZNBC TV. If it were PF cadres, it was going to be headlines everywhere. Mushamune uyo shame!!!

  268. The common dogma [of fundamentalists] is fear of modern knowledge, inability to cope with the fast change in a scientific-technological society, and the real breakdown in apparent moral order in recent years…. That is why hate is the major fuel, fear is the cement of the movement, and superstitious ignorance is the best defense against the dangerous new knowledge. … When you bring up arguments that cast serious doubts on their cherished beliefs you are not simply making a rhetorical point, you are threatening their whole Universe and their immortality. That provokes anger and quite frequently violence. … Unfortunately you cannot reason with them and you even risk violence in confrontin

  269. Sata was on TV yeternight being interviewed by Frank Mutubila. He failed to answer simple questions about the economy . He was just waffling and mumbling about his performance as Govonor.

  273. You see Fine! you have let your self to blinded by hatred, without even hearing properly you base your judgment and arguments concerning, what you read yesterday my friend is typical of propaganda and Sata and you are going to hear more of that in the next 9 days.

  274. Why put words in satas mouth? Sata had said he was old and would love to see a young men like HH lead the country when he were ready. 3yrs to coach him and he d have taken over to lead us to soar to highier hights. HH due to greed and lack of faith, rebuffed the old man and imagine wanted to have the old man as vice. Can you imagine the insolence. And now he will only have himself to blame, just like miyanda who thot he could do it alone. Now its mwamukolo coz its the better alternative of the choices we have. PAABWATOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!

  276. me am not a kabhova am educated and doing very fine myself. am simply gonna add on my cv at home when i arrive. so am not kabhova.

  277. #263 The Spectator. What type of blind royalty is that? What happened to your tools upstairs. If an uneducted man (in the like of Amin Dada) says no elections in 2011, is that fact or truth? Is it ignorane or a limitation in knowledge? With all the known intellectual deficiences of Mr. Sata, you chose to ignore then when there are better alternatives for the Zambian people? What are you potraing to the rest of the bloggers?
    Lets make intelligent comments and advise that that need guidence, particularly those that are braincapped with analytical skills and evidence based information.

  278. Boyi Spectator. You argue very well, nomba am getting surprised how your conclusion is being cornored to Pabwatooo. Since we cant remove your veil with logical argument , we’ll take you to the post and take you through Mr.Sata’s history. after that, we’ll take you to ZNBC and Radio phoenix for Sata’s changing statements … then we’ll prove that u r a die hard…

  280. iwe chi chilufya dont be cleverer above us. Wila angala waunfwa. We in PF most intelligent analysts waunfwa. Sence i can see in one pf than mmd and upnd combined. Pabwato. pf intelletuals will teach you once sence understand.

  281. imwe nimwe ba nkafwa na no. For those whove never head this one… nkafwa na no is a man whose caught pants down with another woman and still refuses that he has been caught saying he didnt release…. pliz forgive my language….

  282. I see my friend Chilufya that you have passionate hatred which has given meaning and purpose to your empty life. you are haunted by the purposelessness of your life try to find a new content not only by dedicating yourself to what some how might to be a holy cause but also by nursing a fanatical grievance.I can that a mass movement has offered you unlimited opportunity for a battle.

  284. The Kaponyas party may win in Lusaka and CB. The win will not be an outright as it were in 2006. This time around many who voted for Sata have changed their minds.
    The rest of people seen at rallies go for Chibuku and Kachasu, and of course to get some intertainment as Sata performs since they have no jobs to keep them busy.

  286. come to think straight ba sata will uplift democrasy higher before because he has a sense of humour and absulutily inteligent leader.
    First as promised the people will have extra cash and brin in nice investor so that people work nicely. then build nice houses for every hard zambian as per promise which is nice if you think nicely.then nice malls must up every where including rural plases.

  288. iwe chi somebody wila tukana waumfwa. we are desent people not kaponyas as you would want us to believe you waufwa.VIVA PABWATOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  289. What is the managers job? It is to direct the resources and the efforts of the business toward opportunities for economically significant results. This sounds trite — and it is. But every analysis of actual allocation of resources and efforts in business that I have ever seen or made showed clearly that the bulk of time, work, attention, and money first goes to problems rather than to opportunities, and, secondly, to areas where even extraordinarily successful performance will have minimal impact on results. This is enough for me to Believe the delivery power of SATA!

  290. I have a lot of respect for the Post but am suprised by their level of bias in this by-election. PF could indeed win the election, but it is also possible they could lose. With the amount of propaganda sold by the Post to condition the citizenry on a PF victory, can u just imagine what will happen on the street when the largely youthful PF supporters learn of a loss? Graduates from the University of Mogadishu are really taking charge.

  291. Ummmm dad,shani mwaamba amawala b4 tatulamivotela? We thought mwalipaunder zambian constitution. I think just keep quite and wait for 30/10/08 before tatulamibwelamo.Meanwhile Pachibwatoooooooo

  292. You see it is not blind following or whatever it is you might want to slap on me concerning my support fro Mr. Sata and the Pabwato regime…it is because of the understanding of the above which is seen in the man of action.

    VOTE PABWAAAAATOOOOOO>>>>>

  295. # 273 The two can not work together, they have two different personalities one them has got dictatorship characteristics, has no regard for anyone and above all his too out spoken.

  296. Believe nothing just because a so-called wise person said it. Believe nothing just because a belief is generally held. Believe nothing just because it is said in ancient books. Believe nothing just because it is said to be of divine origin. Believe nothing just because someone else believes it. Believe only what you yourself test and judge to be true. mwaumfwa ka?!

  297. HH for President.
    To this day one old fella can only claim tangeable results as a Governor … Him and us know too well what happened in the most recent govt appoinments.

    Umwaiche uwamano, Amaka nomu tima uwa fresh.
    Some old men started politics out of frustration ati i’ll sort them out…. watch out

  298. change you can believe, are you in Zambia? I would like to meeet you so that you and i can talk one on one better still you afford me your email address, i like your thought pattern.

  301. SEE WHAT KIND OF LEADER YOU WANT TO VOTE FOR WHO DOESN’T UNDERSTAND THE CONSTITUTION!THIS IS SO SAD.THE MAN’S DICTATORIAL TENDENCIES ARE ALREADY SHOWING.

  302. Who is this Sata guy? What type of a president are we trying to put in state house who cant even interpret the constitution very well. Does he even know what a bye-election is? he is living in Utopia I think. We cant trust this man in state house. he shall be a popular dictator since he knows how to sway people especially Kaponya’s. lets vote wisely gentlemen. Vote Rupiah Banda or HH. No other choice if you want peace

  304. NDAMYEBA ATI CHALI MFUNTA HE IS GOT TWO CHAMBERS OF BRAIN ONE ON THE LEFT SIDE THE OTHER ON RIGHT SIDE “SO APO BABOSHYE AMANO YAKU LEFT THE ONE HE USES FOR DREAMING ” HE IS SO UNPREDICTABLE WHEN HE SATES IT ON DEFAULT HE CAN EVEN DECLAYER HIM SELF WIN WITHOUT ELECTIONS . MARK MY WORD HIS A COBRA HIS FATHER WAS A NACODAH SWALLOWING PIPO MYSTERIOUSLY

  305. No hard feelings though mudala….disclaimer the names of the above email are not the names of the The Spectator. The email has been created under that name for various reasons as the real name of the Spectator remains unidentified.

  306. 272. The Spectator!
    Interesting indeed! Are you telling me that it is PF’s policy to say you are misunderstood. You seem to have understood very well the policy of PF, changing position everyday even on what was done in day light; claiming you were not understood. Why is it difficulty for you to be understood? On the issue of Chinese you claim you wre not understood; and now here Mr Spectator you want to tell me that Sata was misunderstood. I can assure you that if you do not revise your police of changing everyday, you will always be misunderstood because how do you expect us to understand you when you have no clear standpoint and you keep changing on your word?

  307. The capacity for getting along with our neighbor depends to a large extent on the capacity for getting along with ourselves. The self-respecting individual will try to be as tolerant of his neighbor’s shortcomings as he is of his own.

    VIVA SATA!!!!!

  309. Sata wont get as many votes as he did in 2006. HH might even out perform him this time around. Alot of people have changed their minds and are starting to doubt his policies. The man was looking tired on MUVI TV last nite. He needs a rest, otherwise…

  311. VIVA HHH. I’l definatley get in touch spectator..
    Zambia Chalo chesu …….
    One Zambia one Nation!!!!

  312. What I know is that Sata is not a factor in this election. Sata’s current mouthpiece and image-builders THE POST will not cheat the intelligent minds in Zambia.
    The people are for HH country wide.
    “Let us wait and see” what will happen on 2nd November, 2008. I am just happy that the Zambia Army is ready to beat up all PF peace distabilisers in Zambia.

    Viva HH. Vote for president HH for a real ray of change and hope that all Zambians can believe in.

  313. Now there are people who think Michael Chilufya Sata would make a good President! How can a man who has no clue about the constitution swear to protect the constitution which he does not know anything about? Get Sata for President and you are in for ‘high jump!’ Zambians please do not sleep walk into another 27 years of dictatorship! This man wants to cancel Presidential elections in 2011 just as he has cancelled presidential elections in his own party ever since it was formed! He would like to rule unopposed untill 2016 when he will be 80 years old for one term then another 5 years till he is 85 for the second term if still breathing! Sata wants to be President for life! STOP HIM PLEASE!

  314. You are right Maestro. Zambia army and airforce are ready for the kaponya’s that support Sata that may want to disturb our peace. Viva RB or HH. Sata no no no

  318. MUNJELELEKO MWEBANTU. I WAS IGNORANT. BUT COME NEXT WEEK, I’LL CHANGE THE CONSTITUTION TO SUIT MY INTERESTS.

  319. MS is a dictator with no brains. He’s a better tool & not head. Zambians rallying behind him, what’s wrong with your reasoning capacity. You are surely the blind being lead by another blind man. Wise up b4 it’s too late as the ship will sink b4 it reaches the shore

  320. How can Sata make such a statement? Sibaziba kubelenga? How can you aspire for public office and yet not bother to learn the rules? What kind of dictator will he be? I think that if he wins he will be worse that Mugabe. He wont go. I think that UPND and MMD should do a deal to stop this brute from coming into power, otherwise Zambia izalila for many years to come. Also in these uncertain times for the world economy, you cant entrust the country’s future to a silu yodwala.

  321. The Spectator and his PF kaponyas, the major problem I am seing is beyond mare reasoning. Lupwa (family tree) is the only reason I think allows them to defend even things they know are wrong. They behave and think like him. What Zambia needs is real change. We need an economic transformation of this country. a person of MS status.

  322. Frankly speaking, MCS and RB are both not right for this country, any right thinking Zambian who analyses the situation carefully would realise that its now time for a young leader. We need our Kikwete now, energetic and full of forward thinking ideas not petty politics of fertiliser subsidies, load shedding cuts, fake promises of free fertiliser and lower taxes.

    Lets vote HH!!

  323. Ba Cycle Mata! Honestly, your lawyer Bonaventure Mutale would have reminded you that what you were claiming was utter trash! We haven’t even sworn you in and you are behaving like Idi Amin?! YOU WILL NEVER STEP FOOT IN STATE HOUSE…

  324. How true is it that Sata wants to give Baroste land back to the litunga. This must be fabrication of lies. Can someone substantiate these claims?

  325. Ebwafyafye! Efyo bacitile napali Taiwan issue. Abati Taiwan is a sovereign state. Mudala uyu kanshi abashani? Natwishiba ulewina nomba regard yourself as not an expert in everything, you have a lot of people to consult, Pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

  326. #324 All lies, he just want VOTES from the lozi people and once they vote for him then, he do what his best at, changing his mind as usual(I was misunderstood !!!!!).

  328. I agree with you Chilufya and # 223. I watched Sata on MUVI TV yestaday. Definitely, he’s sick, let him go for review. Don’t forget this is what killed Mwanawasa. People who want to benefit from these appointments don’t care about his health but their tummies. We still need Sata in this political drama for fun. So spare him from the hard work of state house or prepare for the next state funeral.

  329. The age and education attainment should be issues in modern elections. Spent and Expired politicians should not be allowed to aspire for such challenging jobs. We have energetic men and women who can propel the economical landscape of our beloved Zambia to Higher levels.

  330. How about Chief Corruption Officer (CCO) GBM? He is full time PF now, funding it and all. I am sure after failing to get anywhere in MMD due to his corrupt lifestyle will immediately get a very high post in the unlikely event that Sata won.

    God save us. God save Zambia. You have always been on Zambia’s side. Zambia’s case is on your lips, Almighty Father. Amen.

  331. Sata should join the NCC so that he can learn about the Zambian constitution. He is busy exhibiting his ignorance shame.

  333. 322.Mbala Boy. I have for a long time now been asking all those who can convinve RBB to endorse HH to do so without delay. RBB can do well to save his VEEP position if he lets HH lead as Zambian President while RBB continues sleeping in the less stressful VEEP POSITION.

    Sata has to be stopped from getting to Stae House as Zambian President in a prudent manner. The only way to convince all Zambian people of Sata’s losing the 30th October 2008 elections is by MMD being humble to endorse HH. The MMD has nothing to lose but every gain in such an MMD-UPND arrangemnet. Vote HH for Zambian President for new blood and ideas in Zambia politics.

  334. Ba Sata I 4 1 do go 4 u big man.
    Twachula pafula like ba Chiluba mentioned when he returned from SA hospital.
    Bring the jobs and more money in my pocket. VOTE PABWATO EVERY ONE.

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