The Ex miners Welfare Trust Association ( EMWTA) has appointed Dr Chiluba as the patron of the association with immediate effect.
And the ex-miners has clarified Dr. Chiluba’s recent visit on the Copperbelt which had sparked a political debate.
Association president Mr Alik Phiri said his association has decide to engage Dr. Chiluba as its patron to ask government to assist them acquire the dump sites in Chingola, Mufulira, Kalulushi, Chililabombwe and Kitwe as directed by the late President Levy Mwanawasa.
Mr. Phiri said because of several challenges being faced by the ex-miners, the Association resolved to engage Dr.Chiluba as their patron to assist them in resolving their problems with government.
The EMWTA President said this in Kitwe today at a press briefing held at Lotus Inn.
He said it had been difficult to discuss the plight of former miners with ministers and working with the former president will make their lives ease.
The miners also intend to talk to the first republican President Dr Kenneth Kaunda to intervene in their welfare as the two heads of state are trusted and experienced citizens.
‘‘The association is appealing to government to expedite the giving of dump site to miners because the demand is not new to the current leadership as the directive was issued at the time when president Banda was the vice president, now why the delay?’’ Mr Phiri asked.
The former miners were also complaining of poor state of roads, high cost of living and delay in issuing of farm land by government which they said have disadvantaged business prospects.
On Dr Chiluba’s recent visit to the Copperbelt, the EMWTA President said the visit was initiated by five former miners associations namely the Miner’s welfare trust ( M.W.T ), Copperbelt small scale of miners association (C.S.S.M.A ), Chintu Kulya association for the welfare of former miners in Zambia ( C.K.A.W.F.M.Z) and the Chingola small scale mining association (C.S.S.M.A).
Mr. Phiri maintained that the association invited the former president to the meeting to discuss the various challenges that have dogged former miners on the Copperbelt since it had proved difficult to access the office of President Banda to air their grievances.
He stated that at the meeting the issues which were highlighted were centered on welfare of ex miners and not political issues as reported by some sections of the media.
‘‘We want Dr Chiluba to be our conveyor belt between the government and the association because he can pass on our grievances easily to the office of the President,’’ Mr. Phiri said.
ZANIS
Bravo Dr. Chiluba!
Comedy pa Zanbia all the time, Chiluba has a heart condition let the man rest please.:-\”
FTJ Chiluba When people come to you for advise teti ubatanfye unless ulishilu nga Satan. For you to have listerned to the concerns of the former Miners and to convey to The President Ala uli kateka wa mano.
Bane moneni umwina wa the hour efyo yamulinga symbol. This team is great!!. KK + FTJ+ RB=Development.
Sata’s niece F Sinyangwe MP for Matero has openly said come 2011 they will move to more progressive Parties. Now, this is Sata’s own niece, If you can not prevail over your niece, if you can not resolve issues with your own niece, who is in your party how can you be trusted with national leadership???!! The presidency for that matter.Awe chakanga.
Chiluba is the one who inflicted all this suffering on the same miners .How in the world can any body ask him to be their conveyor ?
What will he convey to Banda which he didnt do himself .
He sold the mines and shared the money with Chungu,Kabwe and Regina .
Stop these jokes and for once be serious !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#2 Mwana let the man rest but more so that heart conditions get worse when you are in problems, but God is fair as he has resolved chiluba’s persecutions.therefore, let him now interact with the couty populace from which he was unfairly de-touched by the evil powers. He will only rest when MMD is properly re organised!!!!
Good Evening
It was only yesterday that I predicted on the “Luapula Province” thread that the current pawns on RB’s political chessboard will eventually be promoted into significant players. This is a strategic move by MMD and there are more surprising moves to come. The opposition better wake up and rise to the occasion before the course is set.
No commedy Lets accept Wapya munzi interms of Zambian politics Satan wamona ukusamwa. Let the Post campaign for you. No wall No law, not even Petrol Bomb will stop FTJ from ensuring that Satan is finished politically. Mmembe miss led you and thats were FTJ stopped trusting you. Walisamwisha Satana
# 4 -HH The Ex-miners are the ones who have appointed FTJ having worked with him and they know how capable he is to deal with their problems. As to whether he is the one who caused their saffering thats your imagination otherwise they wouldn’t have gone to him. They aren’t Fools
#6 Nine Chibale You are very correct Bro the Opposition will go like the once upon ZRP, ZADECO etc.RB is way ahead from the look of things here Abadimuna sir
Losers picking another loser
When we say people are suffering This is a typical example. In bemba they say “when a lion fails to hunt or find meat grass is the only alternative. The ex-miners are simply saying that RB’s govt does not pay attention to them but merry making and wasting tax payers money through petty visits. That why engagement of ftj has coincided with RB visiting chiefs instead of majority rural poor.
On this one i think it is wrong to insult ba Chiluba because the ex miner chaps have asked him , let the man have something to keep him busy it’s lonely out there just last week Mrs. MWANAWASA was on radio saying she is a lonely widow no friends they have all run away to were the power is.
2011 HERE WE COME. What’s your problem with Ba Sata. Zambia will never develop having chaps like you. Look at the level of poverty among our people, MMD has been in power for over 20yrs and the result is corruption sown nearly in every house, work place and institution in Zambia, poor infrastructure, no medicines and equipments in our hospitasl, roads full of potholes. Stop being cheap and advocate for a government that will do right by it’s people. 20yrs is enough to prove yourself.
THIS IS LIKE RB APPOINTING HIMSELF AS A CHIEF DECIDER ON THE HANDOUTS OF MEALIE MEAL TO POOR PEOPLE IN RURAL AREAS ONE YEAR BEFORE THE GENERAL AND PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS. OF COURSE EVEN A FO.OL CAN SEE THROUGH SUCH MONKEY TRICKS. BEBIKAFYE INDALAMA MUPEPI. KALESESHA IN NO TIME.
Chiluba is a cheap thief a demonguge let’s wait for 2011 those miners are a handfull with no influence RB is no factor he met chiefs in solwezi and nothern province but they lost the two bye election no amount of meeting chiefs will help these chaps
How many miners associations are there in Zambia?( E.M.W.AT, M.W.T, C.S.S.A x2, C.K.A. W.FM.Z etc) To me all these miners associations is just a duplicating of each others efforts and this explains why these ex-miners have failed to archieve anything in their discussions with employers in mining sector and Government. I beleive they all have same mission.
Trusted and experienced Citizens,i for one wouldnt trust Chiluba,he grabbed someone else’s wife,he is a shamelss thief,even if he was aquited,fact remains he stole from the very people who are now praising him
HH ACCUSED OF BETRAYING THE PRINCIPLES OF UPND
United Party for National Development Member of Parliament Major Robbie Chizyuka has charged UPND leader Hakainde Hichilema is betraying the principals upon which the party was formed.
He says UPND under its late President Anderson mazoka was a formidable political party which Mr. Hichilema is allegedly destroying the party.
Major Chizyuka has also disclosed that he regrets that he championed the campaign for Mr. Hachilema to be elected UPND president after the demise of Mr. Mazoka.
He says the people on the grass root even in southern province have lost faith in UPND leadership.
Major Chizyuka says Mr Hichilema will remain a leader of a few people at the National Management Committee but the grassroots is not in support of that leadership.
And Major Chizyuka has disclosed that the true Anderson Mazoka spirit will be revived and UPND will once more be a formidable political Party.
MMD INTACT AND WILL WIN 2011 ELECTIONS- VJ
Veteran politician and chief Parliamentary Venom Mwaanga says the ruling Party is intact and there is no doubt that it will win next year’s presidential elections.
And commenting on accusation by the UPND-PF pact officials that MMD is panicking because of the Pact, Mr. Mwaanga laughed before saying there is no aorta of truth in their statements.
He says to the contrary MMD is not panicking because it knows that the Pact will crumble before the elections.
The self proclaimed elections strategist added that the Constitution and the Ideologies of the Patriot front and that of the United Party for National Development are different and the two cannot stand together.
He further vowed that MMD shall continue tearing apart the pact saying even the pact is busy telling lies about the ruling party.
A saying states being insane is a person doing the same thing over and over again with no change in the results. How does zambia ever expect to progress if they cling to the same players , playing the same game ? They have never delivered despite being given the platform of power. Well, only in Zambia…the morning comes, the night comes and it is the same people dictating and controlling the country. Where is the wisdom in this decision? one wonders….God bless Zambia
#6
Bro the only way MMD can win an election point blank is by rigging it…simple. And they will do that…again.
The sex miners (oops!),well,mayb that fits them..cuz they r so myopic they cant see beyond their noses how they are being used! So now they are prostituting themselves…how pathetic!
😕 The Irony of an uninformed populace.
These are associations of hungry husbands and wives. Shamelessly FTJ reckones miners have forgotten the genesis of their suffering and who was at steering wheel when their livelihood were saddenly chucked out the window, he’s forgotten he closed dunlop in Ndola at the time when vehicle population in the country was growing. I remember when i was a boy in kitwe cikang’ungulu used to collect refuse in my street, it disappeared the moment we put this little thief in power. Unless Zambians were i.d.i.o.t.s FTJ will never again use is perceived oratory to cheat us
Wanzili I could not have said it better myself.
What is wrong with these people(Miners)
I never thought I would read or see this happening. This world is very unfair this man made them suffer and today he is their Saviour!!!:o:o:o
But why with “immediate effect?” 😮 I thought being a patron of an organisation was voluntary. 😕
Its inconceiable to appoint Chiluba as our patron. This short man afflicted social and economic pain on us. Please lets not be used by Rupiah Banda’s schemes. Chiluba should actualy be very ashamed to associate himself with ex miners because he is a devil in this camp. He should be very careful because alot of miners are still very bitter with him. It may cost him alot.
I for one as an ex miner, I have nothing to do with Chiluba. It is Chiluba who made me fail to send my children to decent schools, provide for my family and many other responsibilities. We have many girls on the street because of chiluba. Is it not on the C/belt where Chiluba grabbed Mrs. Mwanza from Mr. Mwanza. Please Zambian lets wake up and see the devil in this man. CHILUBA CAN NEVER MEAN WELL FOR ANY ZAMBIAN. A…
BRAVO FTJ good move you miners, I salute you and Dr. Chiluba.
FTJ has started politcal engineering and it may prove difficult for the opposition to contend with such manouvers.
2011 HERE WE COME
Its now well known that you alwasys support anything what MMD do. If the MMD says adultery and Raping women is very good you are going to say yes yes. Because uli chisumine chisumine like a baby not yet matured. Please learn to analyse issues we are all Zambians.
The people of the copperbelt where I live are very enlightened. All they want is the waste dumps and other things that go with their request. Come voting day, they wil still retain PF and UPND. It’s dreaming to think that the MMd will recapture the Copperbelt. Now we shall even get Ndola Rural that elluded us before.
OOOOooowe elolyanya pa zed. Kapompwe kakeba no kupola kakapole.
In the first place chilu messed up all the miner’s lives. Now you want him to help you.
Shame, shame any way shi mine ni shi mine.
How many members do these associations have? All these members meeting at Lotus Inn? Does that inform you how many people are in these so called associations? One association the president is Chintu Kulya, (very suspicious name). Another is Alik Phiri, the rest they don’t have names attached to these associations. What does that tell you? By the way, who paid for the meeting place, Lotus Inn? Probably it was FTJ using the Zamtrop Account or Banda’s Plot 1 funds.. That tells you who is courting who. These are associations were only 2 or 3 people are the only members. Which normal person, more especially a miner who is now out of emplyment because of FTJ, would even think of giving him a patron position apart from a person called Phiri, or psuedo name for Banda?
#7….In my own analysis, i think 2010 HERE WE COME uli chiwele wele, you are being led by a blind man and you busy following,, you are a tick which clings to a dog even after the dog has died. MMDis a dead dog and you a tick, how old are you anyway?:@)
The all stories coming out Zambia show one thing and one thing only. MMD in desperation. I have not read any story were the real PACT is even campaigning like MMD is doing but all things seem to be falling apart in MMD and the PACT making head ways in their 2011 elections. Soon Banda will promise every Chief to his VP if they deliver their areas to him, remember I said to him, not MMD.VP position will be a rotating position every 6.6 months they be a new VP from another province in the next Rupiah Banda government since he has now almost promised every province for the same position. That is what desperation mean.
To 2011 HERE WE COME, how does it feel to be called ichiwe wele over FTJ and MMD? I know people call others names, but it feels even worse when for sure you sound like the name they calling you. If you feel you like what is going on back home, how come you cannot point at the successes that you have seen that others have failed to see?
Very dull chaps . Those dump sites dont belong to Government or RB.Those Dunmps are now rivate property owned by KVM,Mopani and Chambeshi metals Plc. So Chiluba is lying to these hpoeles children of Zambia that he will deliver the dumps to them. doesn’t he know that the mines have interests in these mines? People can be so naive
Ok now i get it why miners are never successful apart from throwing stones.cant get a life outside mining,this whole ex-miners stuff is nonsense.Get your pension and move on8-|8-|8-|8-|8-|
I hope Sata and HH are doing their home work. Instead of just posting comments in the Post they know FTJ was in Ndola not long ago one of them should have gone to the same people Chiluba is cheating to remind them that he caused them the suffering they’re experiencing and not only that he stole from them millions of US dollars.
Chiluba shud leave Zambia, abi!!! what does he want this time? I am tired of seeing his face and his height makes me sick:o
Msana, they are not worried bout Chiluba. itell you there is no impact he made. he not only visited Ndola but the copperbelt trying to woo ex miner but they have seen through him. The only people who gave support to him are the pipo from two blocks of flats. Chiluba is not a factor on the C/b. Even those who he sold houses to have seen through him. Am not a Pf /Upnd supporter but i feel they stand a better chance
and these guys from the flats are using him so they can buy the flats cheaply. they are caomplaining that they cant pay K250,000 for delapidated flats.
It’s fun that these miner have confidence in this little devil. He is the same guy who sold the mines for a chorus and used these monies to buy short suits and small shoes, and part of it was used to ensnare Regina. Be careful he will take your wives away from you like he did with Mr. Mwanza.
Thanks # 13,33 37 and 39. I have no problem in agreeing with people who are sensible.If you are saying MMD has been in power for 20yrs and has failed you. What is MMD? in abstract? Who was leading this same MMD?Who was the Chief advisor to FTJ or who was the most dependable ally?Sata of course.therefore, why do you want to Blaim MMD, FTJ for having failed Zambians and not Sata.Surely,I am calling for honest among Zambians.When Zambians were complaining about unfair treatment Sata was busy misstreating them.Remember the Chawama situ where marchets had to be used on our fellow Zambians.Is this the Sata who u want to save Zambia??
My Point is yes Zambia has problems and we all have to continue working hard but Sata is not the answer instead he is to blaim mainly for these problems and not RB
Most of you who are condemning me don t even own anyiny in Zambia and later on Earth and therefore have nothing to loose when you put a fool like Sata to lead Zambia after all you are out there and we are here at home.
Home is Home think of those zambians who were enjoying in Zimbabwe not think of home, when things fell apart in Zim what happened?? Food for thought
No nine iam sorry you are MMD and we are coming as a PACk PF-UPND my friend iam right in Tonga land stop worsening your prediction these Tonga people onces decided my friend kwasila ni pack .the only province is Eastern but it has a handful votes 2011 here we come.Change kasila
#48 you have to have respect for elders, you cant call sata a fool. I think there better terms you could choose from. What situation you are in can not be said to have been caused by Sata. Please you have got yourself to change your life.
Iam a Luasaka and copperbelt people stop taking of major Chizuka or any comments i am here and i have been here now 3 plus years PF-UPND pack ni zeeeee .Let me tell you people Tongas are a promble their have now join PACK pls think of other thing or child bearing these people have made up there mine HH na Sata Kwasila Govt ni yatu iam a Tonga but i am here to see with my own eye change yes we can 2010 PF-UPND
The sad story is that the PACK will be dismantled two months before voting day, Let sata organise his degree, enjoy the drama
The sooner Chiluba is locked up the better for all Zambians. That man stole massively, it has been proved, and lets get him in prison and throw away the keys. FINITO. CHAPWA. KWASIIRA.
ala twalya again;)
How on Earth can miners do such kinda stupidity?They don’t even understand why by today they are the lowest paid guys.Miners used to be respected before Foolish ,Tricky ,Pompous ,Crooke a.k.a FTJ pontius Pilato sold the country off for free.,
Myopic Miners still selling off themselves.
Putting the country in more danger.The miners are just a sheer waste of people.Let them stop complaining coz they are just putting our country in a more failed state
Ba Chiluba welcome to the Copperbelt… Our memories are not short but in pained!!!
Please sort out the mess you have left most ouf our families in. Because of your ill thought campaign strategy you sent hundreds of ex-miners to their early deaths and produced orphans! You did not only deny them jobs, lives but robbed their houses as well which would be their pension.
On a personal painful note: My sister died in depression because of your. Right now we are fighting for Tilte Deeds for a house which was her pension. You have sent the orphans in misery while you flourish.
Bwana offisa, at least before you called off this this earth, CLEAN THE MESS YOU LEFT.
#56…I meant to say: Our memories are not short but, pained!!!
Indeed imitima icili ilekalipa elyo abwele nakabili ninshi tucili mumatipa. Awe bane. May the Lord spare us. :-w:-w:-w
I wish one day my wishes will be granted…Could someone assassinate this man!
Whats wrong wit this little I.D.I.O.T? This is taking Zambians for granted.Nevertheless, we Shall vote and against RB and his freinds.Chiluba will be in prison soon were he belongs!
Look at it in clothes bought by stolen funds from the poor.SHAME ON IT!
In no terms can sata and HH can match ftj ‘s political skills.Chi RB nacho nachisa.2011 ikabeba
#58 Abwenzi,
entrust that assignment on your father and see if he is going to lick your mother’s pussy again.Simple
No coverage of this news in the Post! Can someone enlighten me as to why this is so? Or is it the case that The Post has realised that its preferred candidate is losing his marbles? It will not be long before The Post switches allegiance to RB, claiming that because of ‘THEIR’ criticisms, he has become a better man! Watch that space!
why do you like wasting time?:-
As far as I know, this is active politics:-??**==8-}>:d<
Chiluba is a free man and can do whatever he wants to do as long as it is not against the law. What I am more interested in is learning about the policies of the opposition. What exactly is the PF/UPND pact policy on education, economy, health, agriculture,housing etc.etc. Please will somebody enlighten me?
I cry for the miners becuse they are about to e dribbled again by the master dribbler himself. Isnt it enough the problems/suffering he caused when hewas in office.
:((
FTJ nakesa,very soon membe will be calling seeking reconciliation and that he connects him to RB.One simple reason is that, that money in form of departure fees which zambian airways bosses didn’t remit to NAC amounts to pure while collar crime.So 2011 wen RB scoops it wina azalila
Dr Chiluba is a don.
I have nothing but respect for this man, I think he should be given the Presidency in 2011. Viva MMD, Viva Chiluba, the hour has come ….back.
You have to interact with miners to understand their thinking capacity. These are the same chaps claiming Barclays is working with the opposition thats why the bank got their terminal benefits. Now! you dont even have to be educated to know that when the bank gives you a loan you have to pay back.
Which dump sites are they going to be given and what will they do with them. The dump sites belong to current mine owners and not government or Chiluba. And if it’s retreating the slag the technology requires loads of money.
Ubuteko nabo ulebako serious bakulaya abantu ifintu, they thrive on people’s ignorance, greed and poverty.
the chap swindled you and now u want him back..tulo atase!!plunderer uyo!
aka kantu ka chiluba kalefwayika gangbang ya 10 hours, till collapse. thats only way kaka sambilila
What happened to this guy’s heart problem?