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Hichilema brags of having won more seats

Headlines Hichilema brags of having won more seats

UPND president Hakainde Hichilema on a campaign trail in Luena constituency.

UPND President, Hakainde Hichilema, has bragged the UPND has won more parliamentary seats than any other party in the last 12 to 15 months.

Congratulating Alliance for Democracy and Development interim President, Charles Milupi’s victory in the just ended Luena Parliamentary by-election, Mr. Hichilema said the UPND accepts the loss, adding that other parties must also be given chance to win other parliamentary seats in a democracy.

He said in every election, there has to be a winner and a loser, and that UPND, MMD, and other parties that contested the election were losers in this case, and the ADD was the winner.

He said the UPND is not aggrieved by the lose because it has won the majority seats in parliament in the last 12 to 15 months.

He said the UPND is the only party that has gained more parliamentary seats, as opposed to the ruling MMD which has been retaining seats in parliament.

He added that what is important in an election is to gain a seat and not to retain it.

He said while Mr. Milupi must be congratulated for emerging winner in Luena, there is not much impact because he merely retained his seat.

QFM

52 COMMENTS

  1. Just talk about your Party. MMD has more competent people/officials to talk about the affairs of the Party and not you Mr Ichilema

  2. Mr HH,this should be a matter of concern to you.This seat was under UPND with Chrispin Sibetta as MP.What has made UPND slip fron top position to a staggering third?

  3. I think his is right considering that he has moved from 605 to 1806 which now acceptable not like MMD which is coming down from 5000 ++++ to 2800 and ULP to 70

  4. Just as much as I would love to see a regime change in Zed, HH you lost me there. I mean what is your point? and I quote: ” Mr. Hichilema said the UPND accepts the loss, adding that other parties must also be given chance to win other parliamentary seats ” and then “He added that what is important in an election is to gain a seat and not to retain it” and went further to say “while Mr. Milupi must be congratulated for emerging winner in Luena, there is not much impact because he merely retained his seat.

    Sorry to say but you don’t seem to have enough guts sir.

  5. Moderator ,

    Solwezi central was previously MMD, now it is UPND. PF has not lost any.

  6. There is time for everything. If God put it that MMD at a particular time will slip off no man can change it so let us wait and see 2011 for the Chosen one.

  7. solwezi central was national party then upnd then mmd now upnd. Mr hichilema was camped in luena for the whole campaign period while RB went for a day. HH promised to give a bitterest lesson in luena but ended up up coming paltry 3rd and even his local govt seat to MMD. HH your short history is up just listen to what the prince of lamba pipo is telling you

  8. Dont underate Milupi…you went there with your whole team (UPND) and MMD did so also but both of you failed. Milupi is going to get all the Votes in 2011 in western province. His also going to grab all the Mps so you lose sides. Wait……you end up being frustrated and later on you will stop politics and do ur business full time. Just like you caused your friends Bob and Patrick Chisanga end up doing. the ealier you break away from the so called PACT with no vision the better.

    As for the MMD clones , they will lose western province , both in Mps and the presidential . Then even if Banda wins he shall win with few Mps….we shall see where the Lungwangwas will go. Mark my words .

  9. Moderator
    Well said bro,if UPND is a serious contender,any by-election loss or Ward elections at the grassroot should be of grave concern.This statement coming from someone who is running for the highest office is worrying,imagine competitive people like Alex Ferguson or that annoying french whinger (Arsene) coming up with such statements about their teams,it will mean that they have lost the competitive urge to always want to win irrespective of the opponent
    HH is slowly loosing it

  10. HH has never been a factor its just that he is tonga and head of upnd a national party now reduced to regional tongaism. HH is a horse being ridden by sata for the tonga vote. the problem is he is too dim to realise and instead thinks he is using sata. he will realise too late and will remain leaking wounds inflicted by sata

  11. but u pio are dull,under whose leadership did UPND win the mufumbwe and solwezi central by-elections?and whose sits were those?pls wake up and smell the coffee.

  12. # 10 you are right. Both MMD an UPND engaged in serious vote buying. MMD ministers camped at polling stations dishing out money and slaughtered animals before villagers went to vote. UPND were distributing citenges and transported would be voter, However despite them going in Luena with a full team the lost. Next year will be bad for them

  13. Well spoken HH. Some people can’t see beyond their nose and will rant like misguided missiles just to discourage you. The truth is UPND emerged as winners in the Luena elections whether they like it or not. You are the only ones who increased the number of votes from the ones you got in 2006 and 2008. UPND is the only party that has grabbed a seat from another party. That is a measure of success which some tribal bigots on this site can not fathom.
    Yes Milupi one, but he was just retaining a seat in his home land and he was expected to win anyway.

  14. On “He [HH] said the UPND is the only party that has gained more parliamentary seats, as opposed to the ruling MMD which has been retaining seats in parliament… what is important in an election is to gain a seat and not to retain it,” this is very correct and no one can tak away from this fact.

    In fact, what UPND 2011 presidential candidate HH is saying here is that he is sure that only the UPND has been expanding — a thing the PF vuvuzela, the POST, acknowledged in their editorials — since the 2008 presidential by-election in Parliament and Local Government.

    Perhaps, this is why PF has suspended its Central Province high official who told crowds at rallies that Zambians should vote for ‘Obama’ HH. Indeed, the rest have only retained.

    Be blessed all…

  15. HH needs to watch his rhetoric. He has lot going for him, but such discussions can be a turn-off. Just stick to issues of development and what you can offer Zambians. When he starts talking about the ideal age of a president, how many seats UPND has, etc., he is reducing himself to the very people he is trying to distinguish himself from. He can start boasting when he takes UPND back to one Mazoka built. Now that was a formidable opposition party – truly national, vibrant leadership and full of great ideas.

  16. According to HH’s and Maestro Hhehhehhehhe for 2011 would-b President of Zambia HH reasoning, this is therefore the hirachy of perfomance

    ADD has gained 1 seat, and not lost any elections.
    UPND has gained 1 seat (Solwezi Central), but lost elections in Luena
    PF has retained all seats (Kasama Central, Chifubu), but lost elections in Milanzi
    MMD has lost 1 seat.(Solwezi Central) but retained Milanzi. Lost elections in Kasama and Chifubu

    This kind of reasining if folly because it puts ADD as the front runner for 2011, which is nothing more than a dream.

  17. #20: There is no need to twist facts. To help you understand the logic HH is putting across:
    Milupi=ADD has retained one seat in Luena
    PF has retained two parliamentary seats in Chifubu and Kasama Central
    MMD have lost two Parliamentary seats in Solwezi and Mumfumbwe
    UPND has gained two parliamentary seats in Solwezi and Mufumbwe
    I am sure this is not rocket science.

  18. what HH is trying to tell you pactless members is that compared to PF, UPND is more popular so he should be allowed to stand on pactless ticket. over to you bakaponya bamu PF.

  19. HH, you’re a clown. No wonder Mmembe finished you in his editorials; that you need PF more than they need you; that without the Pact, you’re nothing but a bantustan and your stature no more than that of a counselor in Monze! For a chap whose highly educated, your logic is rather flawed. Gaining a couple of seats in Parley is nothing to brag about, considering your relative small number of MP’s i.e even if you gain 10 more seats and MMD ‘retain’ their current seats, you’ll still have about half their number of seats! You’re not fit to be a Tonga bull, not even a Tonga calf…

  20. HH, seeing that you’re so sharp, let’s do the math; 2001 Parliamentary results by # of seats (MMD-69, UPND-49, PF-1); 2006 (MMD-75, PF-43, UDA-26). It’s pretty obvious that MMD increased their hold and PF made huge strides! What about your bantustan? Despite forming an alliance, UDA (UPND/ FDD/ UNIP), you shrunk from 49 seats to a mere 26. As Fred Mmembe would say, It takes little intelligence, if a little is all one has, to realise that you’re indeed a clown/ joker/ mambala! You’ve lamentably failed to fit into the great Andy Mazoka’s shoes despite the tribal tactics you used to wrestle the UPND presidency from Saki, Chisanga and Sichinga. Foolish chap indeed.

  21. 21. Zed Patriot

    What facts am I twisting? Please acquaint yourself with the following. Milupi was Luena independent MP. He they formed ADD (and is the leader), in accordance with The constitution of Zambia (Part V. The Legislature) (of which you call yourself a patriot but do not seem to be aware), Article 71 (Tenure of office of members of National Assembly) Section 71.2 (a). He ceased being the MP and therefore had to recontest as ADD (Article 67, section 1.

    Therefore Milupi (as an independent) is not ADD. Two different enities here, by the Laws of Zambia!

  22. <25. Big Pipe,

    Apart from the bad language, you are right on the ball. You dont only have a big pipe, but also a big brain.

  23. 22. diasporic slave,

    Political popularity is not gaining 2 rural seats. Well not un the Laws of Zambia and our democracy. Look at the analysis 25. Big Pipe. Even if HH scored 100% in Solwezi and Luena, it will not make him come anyware close to what MMD and PF will remain with (take away what they got in those areas in 2008)

  24. #24 Big Pipe: I am sure we are all reading the same article in English were HH is talking about the past 12-15 months not the past 9 years.
    #25 Ichi Nyamu Nyamu (PF Kaponya – zealot): how are you my mate? Ok, what you are defining is what is on paper. The reality on the ground is that ADD is still a one man party formed, run and controlled by Milupi. We are yet to prove if he has any following anywhere else other than in Luena.

  25. Zed Patriot #28, indeed I’m reading the same article in “English”. My simple point is, there is nothing for HH to be ‘bragging’ about…Given his political weakness, I wouldn’t be getting aimless erections if I were him. The way he’s been quoted in this article also comes off as cheeky to his PACT partners, the PF i.e his insinuation that his gaining of parley seats is more significant than his partner’s mere retention of their seats!!! Bottom line is, HH is not fit enough to be the PACT leader given UPND is bringing less to the table.

  26. May I say I’ve enjoyed reading all the comments in this thread. Very good indeed, even the bad ones seem mature, a little. I think this is what will happen during next year’s campaign – UPND vs PF. I want to watch the war of words after the PACT splits. Probably RB will be enjoying the game too while he waits to sweep the votes. No wonder he sleeps well.

    PACT, pls remain a PACT and stop washing dirty linen in public. Oh no, you can’t. Your linen is too stinky to wash inside! lol..

    At this rate, MMD will have no battle to fight and RB will sail through to the top, again.

  27. PF and PF Vvuzela, take not. The factors have changed for the PF. Those 26 rebel MP+Chiluba will come to haunt the PF whatever the hard wood Pulanga and his not so straight master editorials.

    I wonder between the two PF and UPND who needs power more– Must be PF hence the rhetorics from the Vvuzela who hate the MMD with passion because they lost the favour when our LPM vanished from this surface of earth.

    Umozi Kumawa and Tubuluz-RB
    Bantu-Botatwe+other minorities/Luvale/Lundaz/ Nkoya- HH
    Kaponyaz, Vuvuzela, Cities Supposedly Bemba- SATANIC

    I am sure the PF Vvuzela takes pride like ostriches and profess PF as a national party…hahahahahahah

  28. #29 Big Pipe: HH was simply quoting a matter of fact. He did not at any point in this article compare himself to Sata/PF or insuniuate that he should be the leader of the pact. Moreover, from what is public knowledge there is nowhere in the Pact memorandum where it says the party with the largest following will provide a candidate for the pact.
    As you have correctly pointed out the autor of this article ‘angled’ the article to potray an impression that he was bragging. HH can not be responsible or control how other people report what he says.

  29. The burgers always angles articles against HH to stgmatise him or disadvantge him.. They did the same to mazoka and after he is dead they clain he is a hero. Those tactics will never work

  30. To those who haven’t yet heard, former MMD Mpulungu MP Lameck K. CHIBOMBAMILIMO died this morning, condolences to his bereaved family, and sadly Zambia is going for a by-election again this time in Northern Province.

    This Mpulungu by-election is another test for the PF-UPND PACT’s unity as well as its popularity or gaining momentum as we get to the 2011 tripartite elections.

    In light of what UPND did over the decision for PF to contest under PF-UPND PACT in Milanzi, Eastern Province, even if UPND was more popular there using previous Ward Councillor, MP and presidential election vote numbers, it will be interesting to take note of whether PF will let the mighty UPND to field a candidate in the upcoming MP by-election due to the following: … (see next posting.)
    _
    Matt 6:33

  31. Big pic is rite. Lookn strategically UPND hasnt made any signficant strides. We all know its abit naive 2 brag ova one .by the way i hear mpulungu mp has died. Chibomba milimo the lunatic. So lets see what happens.

  32. Big pic is rite. Lookn strategically UPND hasnt made any signficant strides. We all know its abit naive 2 brag ova one .by the way i hear mpulungu mp has died. Chibomba milimo the lunatic. So lets see what happens. I think Pf will win this one.

  33. According to the ECZ website results, in the 2006 presidential and general election the following was what obtained:

    2006 MP

    Lameck CHIBOMBAMILIMO (MHSRIP) MMD 14,617
    Dominic CHILESHE UPND, FDD, UNIP (UDA) 1,323
    Collins C. SIULAPWA PF(-ULP alliance) 869
    Joyce NANYANGWE APC 467

    useful votes 17,276
    Rejected 381
    Votes cast 17,657
    Registered voters 25,713

    2006 presidential
    LPM MMD 13,004
    HH UPND (UDA) 1,710
    MC SATA PF(-ULP alliance) 2,144
    Kenny Ngondo APC 211
    G. Miyanda HP 183

    rejected 439
    Total cast votes 17691
    Registered voters 25, 713

    2008 presidential:
    MMD 4880
    PF 4076
    UPND 217
    MP 23

    rejected 543
    cast 14,455
    registered voters 19,698
    _____

    My take here is that UPND must be let to field a candidate for Mpulungu just like PF…

  34. … fielded the Milanzi by-election. According to ECZ Milanzi results, in the 2006 and 2008 tripartite- and by-election:

    2006 MP

    Chosani A. Njobvu UPND, FDD, UNIP (UDA) 5,682
    Rosemary C. Banda MMD 4,472
    Chimwala T. Independent 1911
    E Banda APC 1,259
    Ezala Mvula PF(-ULP alliance) 529

    useful 13,853
    Rejected 596
    Votes cast 14,449
    Registered voters 19,698

    2006 presidential
    HH UPND (UDA) 8,115
    LPM MMD 4,474
    MC SATA PF(-ULP alliance) 547
    Miyanda HP 434
    K Ngondo APC 342

    rejected 543
    Total cast votes 14,455
    Registered voters 19,698

    2008 presidential:
    MMD 5,872
    UPND 1,050
    PF 849
    HP 129


    _____

    Thus, If the UPND Team acted on the principle of sharing rather than popularity to give Pf a Milanzi try, why can’t PF do the same now to…

  35. On 38‘s 2008 presidential:
    MMD 5,872
    UPND 1,050
    PF 849
    HP 129
    ” I did a mix up with the Milanzi 2008 presidential by-election results and the correct ECZ results for Mpulungu 2008 presidential by-elections are:

    MMD 4880
    PF 4076
    UPND 217
    HP 23

    a thing which shows that PF had an Upper hand over UPND in the 2006 and 2008 presidential elections by the 2006 MP elections were different because UPND under UDA performed better than PF. Take note that PF never beat the UPND in any election in the Milanzi 2006 and 2008 MP tripartite elections and the presidential by-elections respectively but UPND allowed PF to contest the 2010 MP Milanzi by-election.

    So PF has an obligation to show UNITY in the PACT by letting the UPND to field a Mpulungu MP by-election…

  36. Ba Suntwe #34, your grammar is a bit tricky ba mudala, despite living in the diaspora. I’m assuming u meant say ‘buggers’ instead of ‘burgers’…? LOL

  37. YOU KNOW, THESE SO CALLED EDUCATED CHAPS IN ZAMBIA NEVER STOP TO SURPRISE ME. SURELY, CAN YOU GIVE CHANCE TO OTHER POLITICAL PARTIES TO WIN JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE BEEN WINNING? MOST EDUCATED CHAPS IN ZAMBIA ARE REALLY THE MOST STU.PID WHEN IT COMES TO REASONING. JUST CONGRATULATE YOUR FRIEND AND REMAIN A GOOD LOSER, HH.

  38. #29. HH’s COMMENTS ARE SOUR GRAPES. IN FACT THE YOUNG MAN MUST BE APPRECIATING BEING PART OF PF WHICH HAS PUSHED HIM AND HIS UPND, THUS FAR. TROUBLE WITH HH IS THAT HIS AMBITION IS TO BE PRESIDENT. HE BAHAVES LIKE A YOUNG MAN WHO HAS JUST GRADUATED FROM COLLEGE WITH AN AMBITION TO GET A JOB AND USING MONETARY POWER SCR.EW AS MANY GIRLS AS HE NEVER HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO, WHEN HE WAS A SCHOOL BOY. HE SHOULD TAKE MMEMBE’s ADVICE.

  39. #45: HH joined politics because he had an ambition to be President. There is nothing wrong with that! He has what it takes to be president. It seems like some people have started believing their own lies that only old madalas can rule Zambia.

  40. Big Pipe, peter Says: It won’t do to vilify HH for his comments. It is true that UPND has won most elections, parley and local government elections in the last 12 – 15 months. This is a fact. UPND has gained two parley seat while PF has only gained one local government seat in Chimwemwe which was previously held by an independent. And if you are not aware, PF national chairperson Inonge Wina heavily decampaigned UPND in Luena. She went to mobilise people and was nearly beaten in Senanga. So UPND was literally alone in Luena. PF was against UPND in Luena because they wanted the seat. Apperently Inonge wanted to be adopted for the seat but she had disadvantages and was going to perform worse than Muyunda Ililonga. And it’s a fact that PF did well because of Chiluba. We shall see Luapula,…

  41. UPND and HH are level headed. Sata’s advisers have advised him against standing on the same podium with HH because the young man will white wash him and tilt support towards him. PF is arrogant. Tribalism, it cannot be blamed on HH and UPND alone. PF is inherently tribal too; only popular among tribes that identify themselves under the Bemba grouping. Things change. People also change their views depending on circumstances and exposure to information. Luapula will not vote for PF, it’s going to MMD and this is a fact. Even CB if PF is not careful, it might lose.

  42. Whats wrong with this country, RB has no clue why he is president apart from travelling like a bee looking for pollen, Sata is just looking for a state funeral, HH wants to make a name for himself nothing else, Milupi is ill advised and hell bent on spriting the opposition vote. what we need is a revolution, a new page were we can do away with all the thieving, tribalistic and corrupt elements we call politicians. thats my opinion.

  43. On MP Milupi’s victory in Western province, I hope MMD will now begin to consider having an MMD-ADD Alliance, nice possible new name combination, to ensure that they win the 2011 election as opposed to trying hard to get HH and UPND to their side. What MMD can now do is to immediately appoint MP Charles Milupi as Vice-President of Zambia so as to start showing the people of Western Province that they really want to be voted for in 2011 tripartite elections.

    On a related note, such an MMD-ADD Alliance will be a good formidable contender in the 2011 tripartite elections against the unstoppable PF-UPND Pact, which has received a lot of attention from Zambians of all walks of life.

    Have a blessed day all.
    _
    Matt 6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God and His righteousness …

  44. I agree with you No.50.MMD and ADD should form a pact.Each party should only use two letters of its name.Since the letter “D” is common to both of them,I suggest the new combined party name should be “MAD”!

  45. YOU PFKAPONYA BIGOTS DO YOU UNDERSTAND ENGLISH OR YOU CANT REASON , THIS IS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE.HH IS IS 100% CORRECT ALL HE SAID IS IS IN 15 MONTHS UPND HAS GAINED MORE SEATS, FOR SURE THEY WON SOLWEZI THAT WAS ONCE MMD SEAT AND SO WAS MFUMBWE, MILUPI JUST RETETAINED A SEAT THAT ONCE WAS HIS AND SO DID PF IN CHIFUBU, HH NEVER COMPARED HIMSELF TO PF. WHY DO YOU WANT TO INSINUATE THAT HE IS FAR BETTER THAT THAN YOUR SATANIC PRESIDENT. IF PF CANT REASON ON SIMPLE MATHS LIKE THIS, THEN I PRAY NCC TO JUST INACT THE DEGREE CLAUSE FOR A PRESIDENT , PEOPLE NEED SOME FORM OF EDUCATION TO REASON, YOU DONT NEED CALCULAS,BIOSTATISTICS TO PICK WHAT HH IS SAYING, SO PLEASE BE OBJECTIVE , I WISH UNZA CAN ARRANGE FOR EVENING CLASSES FOR PF PRESIDENT,GBM,and ALL THOSE PF MEMBERS TO COME TO LEVEL WITH UPND…

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