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Kabimba cautioned by police as he insists he never received the alleged e-mail.

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PF Secretary General Secretary Wynter Kabimba
PF Secretary General Secretary Wynter Kabimba

A COMBINED team of Police and Drug Enforcement Commission officers have recorded a warn-and-caution statement from Patriotic Front secretary-general Wynter Kabimba over an e-mail sent to him by Kabwata member of Parliament Given Lubinda.

Mr Kabimba was yesterday summoned to the Zambia Police headquarters for questioning and a warn- and-caution statement was recorded from him after interrogation.

“I want to confirm that officers from the fraud section at the Police Service Headquarters and officers from the DEC this afternoon took a statement from me regarding the issue of the purported email from Mr Given Lubinda, which was dated the 1st of July, 2011.

“Like I said during a radio programme on QFM, I informed them that I have never received that email. I confirmed that the email account was my account. That is the account that we use at the office – [email protected]. To date that email has never been received by my office and I have never seen it,” Kabimba said.

DEC public relations officer John Nyawali referred all questions to the Inspector-General of Police Francis Kabonde, who said he is on leave and referred all queries to Commissioner of Police Graphael Musamba whose phone was switched off.

In the e-mail, Mr Lubinda commented on the US$45 million donation to the PF from Taiwan for the party’s campaigns in this year’s tripartite elections.

He also expressed reservations on the party’s intention to give huge tracts of Zambian land to the Taiwanese as a reward for the US$45 million windfall.

Mr Lubinda is also purported to have expressed worry about the intention of the PF to conscript thousands of young Zambians into the army for the purpose of sending them to war-torn countries as a way of addressing youth unemployment.

[Zambia Daily Mail]

67 COMMENTS

  1. This is BUSH..T!! This is a very serious allegation which borders on TERRORISM.

    No sane current Zambia will believe your (MMD) PROPAGANDA, that PF can send Zambian youth to war torn Afghanistan.

    What the PF leadership should do, is to expose the MMD’s lies by OFFICIALLY INFORMING and involve the USA FBI to help in this investigations so that the MMD will learn the hard way.

    Much as i support the RB and MMD, but this is heartless by the COMBINED team of Police and Drug Enforcement Commission officers in persecuting the PF leaders.

    This USELESS propaganda will just make MMD lose the elections to PF!!

    By the way why using these outdated propaganda methods to a NEW Zambian GENERATION?

    Stop it please MMD.

    • you are right, on this one they have got wrong and they should be prepared for the consequences! If they really want to investigate this nosense they should just go to ZWD

  2. Zambians have never involved themselves in mercenary activities before and by the way NO ZAMBIAN will go to Afghanistan. To do what? You MMD paid Daily Mail Journalists LIARS!!!!!!

    Zambia is, and a say it again, “a Christian nation and Zambians are peace loving people.”

    The only way Zambians will go to Afghanistan is to PREACH the GOSPEL of the Lord Jesus Christ.

    For sure Zambians will stop buying Zambia Daily Mail and Times of Zambia.

    These lies will boomerang for sure in the MMD direction!!!!!

    Whosoever is in charge of these MMD propaganda should stop because it wont work but is doing more harm to the MMD reputation and credibility!!!!!

  3. I agree with you # 1 Shaka OZ on the part of the issue bordering on terrorism. However, this is an eye opener to us Zambians preparing to cast our ballots in the coming months. Denying alone will not do PF any good. First it was the purpoted donation from the Taiwanese with was allegedly intercepted by Malawi authorities during the past election. Then it was the Homosexual issue, now this e-mail. As much as I’m not a gullible person by nature, these issues have definately raised eyebrows in the recent past. I feel that the PF top brass have a hidden agenda for Zambia not the economic emancipation they are preaching about. For the Police & DEC to get involved, it means they have noticed something. There is no smoke without fire. Beware of the concealed agendas.

  4. I think all politicians have hidden agendas. We must be able to judge who is trying to manipulate us and make the right decision. Mmd use cheap tricks and illusions to get people confused just like the devil. We know who we are and we are inteligent Zambians. We wont fall for your tricks.

  5. #3 Gumu gumu,

    Don’t expose your IGNORANCE here!!!

    No individual is allowed to engage in terrorism related activities without drawing attention from USA’s FBI and CIA!!!

    So this allegations against PF are MMD lies and propaganda. And as Zambians we should not support lies against an innocent Zambian citizen just because they to belong to an opposition party.

    Whosoever came up with this propaganda has failed and will make the MMD lose this election.

    I HOPE THE USA’s FBI and CIA are reading this case so that they will investigate it.

    The Government through the COMBINED team of Police and Drug Enforcement Commission SHOULD NOW officially NOTIFY the USA embassy in Zambia, FBI and CIA to investigate PF leaders, because this borders on TERRORISM.

  6. I think this is a straight forward case and do you mean to tell me that all IT smart people in Zambia left.

    FACT 1  MMD claims lubinda sent an e-mail to address [email protected]
    FACT 2 This email passed through Servers at ZAMNET
    FACT 3 Winter Kabimba claims he never received this e-mail or ever saw it

    So this is a simple case for a basic detector. Just go to ZAMNET, their office is at Comesa Center. Ask them to provide you Server logs for e-mails to the e-mail address [email protected]. 

    SO TWO COURSE OF ACTION:
     
    FIRST COURSE:
    If logs show that (1) The  e-mail did hit Kabimba’s account (2) He open the e-mail, then he is a liar and they should tell the public and begin his prosecution

    SECOND COPURSE:

    If the logs show the e-mail did not hit his account, THE CASE CLOSED.

    SIMPLE

    • The case should not be closed but liars should be prosecuted and delt with. If it is a fabricated then Lubinda and Kabinda should be compasated. We know this will not happen because this is cheap propaganda from MMD. Elections will tell. Wina azalila

  7. Honestly Zambia Daily Mail do you really know what you are doing to Zambia’s reputation and as a DESTINATION FOR INVESTORS?
    It has taken Zambians A LONG TIME OF TIGHTENING THEIR BELTS to reach this far!!

    People in other Countries hearing and reading this (FALSE) story about opposition party PF sending Zambian youths to Afghanistan, ARE ALARMED by this bad news, and ZAMBIA MAY END UP BEING CLASSIFIED AS a country were THERE IS Terrorism.

    Investors may stop coming to Zambia THINKING THERE ARE TERRORISTS, WHEN IN FACT NOT, just because of this MMD propaganda and lies!!!!

    Please MMD and Zambia Daily Mail stop this nonsense.

    Zambia is known for peace.

    When i heard Mdam Siliya saying this in Kitwe, i thought it was just ONE OF THOSE OFF THE MICROPHONE POLITICAL COMMENTS!!!

  8. Ba OZ which ignorance are you talking about? I merely refered to the first line in your 1st blogg. do you want me to cut and paste?Anyway I will do it so that can see how you are contradicting yourself “This is BUSH..T!! This is a very serious allegation which borders on TERRORISM.” OZ Shaka. The problem with people like you is that you let emotions overtake you and blind you. I know how much you are a fan of MCS. These are basic questions which electorates should be asking. By the way why should the GRZ notify the US embassy like Zambia is not a sovereign country. Stop the Muzungu is better than me culture.

  9. Very serious allegations. I concur with #6 why should the govt waste time on this matter ZAMNET is there. Remember the Emmanuel Mwamba case. Cheap propaganda. Abash RBish. MMD prepare to leave and consult your counterpart in Malawi.

  10. People dont even waste your time…….if PF associated itself with terrorists Clinton wouldnt have seen MCS and by now MCS would have been on da CIA wantd most wantd list. Lets not allow these people 2 dent the image of Zambia…

  11. What MMD has started to persecute the Opposition leaders in order to derail their political campaign momentum will seriously compromise Zambia’s peace, as the civil strife that can arise will be so massive that it’ll lead to bloodshed. There is too much poverty, hunger and anger in the country, and the frustrations are directed at the MMD Govt.

    Why are the security wings failing to invetsigate the issue and use evidence based arrests, instead of wasting people’s time and national resources on baseless Warn and Caution Statements aimed at intimidating people, and shift people’s attention from real problems to useless MMD propaganda?

    Don’t take peace for granted, a small match stick can cause the deadliest of fires..

  12. Tell RB that his closest friend in Malawi is sitting on the edge of the chair. You can push people to a certain limit. Ala nakanyelele kalasuma. Stop percecuting people you perceive as enemies. That email was clearly a cut and paste of Lubinda and Kabinda’s email addresses and then typed in the concocted message. Winter and Lubinda are both lawyers and are not so daft like RB to send each other such emails. Even a villager can tell that RB is up to no good. Only f’d up MMD cadres can believe in such nonsense. And deep down they know what is going on. Who has such money in Afghanistan to help a party in Africa? People please, get serious. Stop RB from deliberately trying to start anarchy in Zambia. He knows he cannot win elections and all he wants is a reason to postpone elections.

  13. MMD can you stop dangerous propaganda and deal with real issues of poverty, un employement, windfall tax, corruption, eduction, health, development; the list is endless. Whom are you fooling as if Zambians are not educated to know not how you are cheating? Because this is a straight foward case go to ZAMNET and get facts like Papa J has advised you, only that the case should not be closed but the liars if any should be brought to book. If not we shall know that this is cheap propaganda by MMD. But lets know that lies will not take us any where, we can’t eat lies we can’t spend nights under lies, we can’t be clothed by lies. Please we need real issues.

  14. Political nonsense and a waste of Resources.Instead of wasting time and money on these issues that are going nowhere,divert yo attention on those mmd cadres who attacked the muvi tv crew.Ba DEC,ZP get a life for change.Dont be pushed on issues you very well know that will go nowhere.

  15. The MMD ands their bloated tummies (Liato and Peter Daka’s) should be booted out together with their ringmaster RB. This year let us not relent but boot our the MMD. They are stale ad past their shelve life. Kuya bebele.

  16. YES! with the kind of SATA/PF leadership it is possible to take youths to war torn areas for the sake of money and wanting to be in power-AS LONG AS IT ASSURES POSITIONS AND A VEHICLE OR TOOL FOR HATRED AND VEGENCE AGAINST UNFAVOURABLE PEOPLE AND TRIBES.
    You still ask me how? By the SATA/PF lead government first recruiting youths and purporting to be going abroad training when actually they are being taken to war torn countries with exchange for SATA/PF. SO N0 ONE MUST FOOL HIMSELF OR HERSELF THAT IT CAN NOT BE DONE. Zambians let us avoid thinking that middle east and now malawi situations is only for hose countries ,even zambia can be a victim.That is the reason why we should not be stupid in our language when we debate as to incite hatred and vengence. 

  17. It iz very sad that the state media findz pleazure in making alarming headlinez out of storiez that are unsubstantiated.

  18. Lets not go ahead with blind support.The burden of proof here is with the police to prove that this email exists.So they should show evidence.If it exists then Winter and PF are up to no good.Political support aside this is a serious issue PF,MMD,UPND or indeed any other party butt as Zambians we shouldnt condone this.Every party deserves to be scrutinised whether we supoort them or not.We should be able to tell them off when they go astray and thats the only way we can build our country.So for now lets demand answers to this and who ever is wrong should be repremanded

  19. Let the police do their work. It is proper procedure for the police to investigate all complaints they receive. After investigations, if there is a good case, then the suspect will be charged and on the contrary, if there is not case the complaint will be ignore. Why do pipo want to politise everything nowadays. Do you want criminals to fill our streets?

  20. Come on country men, Afghanistan is a very poor nation where would they get the $45m from, as they live on aid?
    Their farms are dependent on exporting drugs to the west to survive, the govt depends on British and American aid..
    The Afghanis have a lot of people languishing in other states as refugees living sub-standard lives, if their govt had that kinda money to spare many would be back home.
    Taiwan or Afghanistan the lairs can,t even tell which is which or is it $90m?

  21. STOP THE CON
    Come on country men, Afghanistan is a very poor nation where would they get the $45m from, as they live on aid?
    Their farms are dependent on exporting drugs to the west to survive, the govt depends on British and American aid..
    The Afghanis have a lot of people languishing in other states as refugees living sub-standard lives, if their govt had that kinda money to spare many would be back home.
    Taiwan or Afghanistan the lairs can,t even tell which is which or is it $90m?

  22. Is he sweating already or it is the sickness manifesting. that sweaty face in July Sacks. there is no smoke without fire. PF are AUCTIONEERS

  23. # 20 in Afghanistan there are largest poppy plantations where the largest quantities of cocaine comes from. Lubinda ‘s origins are near there in pakistan so what can stop them dishing out cash to the cash strapped PF cadre ism

  24. I tell you solemnly one will face a jail sentence over these stories/fabrications or whatever they are. It may not be today or tomorrow but the law never sleeps and one day the truth will be known and a jail sentence awaits the perpetrator.

  25. # 12 ba Kalos : in Malawi there are food riots RB is even exporting the maize, the soyas, the rice from Mongu to Malawi. why should we riot here and for what?

  26. Alinaswe @24,25,27

    That trade has been sqaushed by NATO, if the can kill Osama the can destroy those Poppy plantations simple, poppy makes heroin and not cocaine

  27. #8 Gumu gumu

    WECHIPUMBU WE. I we Mambala iwe!!

    There no such a thing as, “sovereign country.” when it comes to fighting terrorism in this world!! If really you are in the USA (as your flag shows), “i hope the FBI and CIA will interview you regarding this story because you seem to know something about this MMD propaganda story.”

    As Zambians we want to maintain our GOOD reputation in the world. There is no terrorists in PF NOR Zambia in particular! That is why even his Excellence The USA Ambassador was invited to the PF Party conference.

    Honestly i support RB and MMD but as Bishop Mambo said, “bad people like you GUMU GUMU are misleading President Banda.” I still believe RB is a good President but only you MORONS are destroying his reputation.

  28. Guys we should admitt that Ruphere Bandah is the worst president zambia has ever had. Not only is he a thief but a heartless person. Enough is enough!!!

  29. But how come Rasheed told the ZP that his e-mail was hacked?and the answer wynter gave when first asked about this by journalists indicated that he received it.Going by wynters law history(dull lawyer),he might have deleted the e-mail thinking he would never be caught.kani yalula.

  30. First of all Afganistan has allied forces, nato and USA watching over it, borders and airports. It is therefore not easy for $ 45m to exit that country without detection. However the issue must be investigated so that if it is true people involved should face the law. If it is false perpetrators of this falsehood should equally be punished to bring sanity to this society and lesson to others.

  31. The question one may ask is that “What investigations have DEC and the police done before interogating Kabimba”. One may think that they rushed to interogate in order to give credence to the story so as to embaras PF. As No 6, Papa J, stated it very easy to follow up this issue by IT experts at ZAMNET.

  32. It seems some bloggers don’t know how the intelligence operates. It’s logical that the CIA, ICC, Kremlin, and other secret agencies know about this and have shared intelligence. PF is on record saying it has recruited ex defence personels for this coming election. Let the police do their job.

  33. Alinaswe, poppy in Afghanistan produces heroin, not cocaine, and its probably the Americans in control of that because when the Taliban were in charge they brought the production almost to Zero, and when the Americans went in it now produces 80% of the world’s supply. Cocaine comes from the Coca plants, in Latin America.

  34. #7 ShakaOZ, since when did PF agree that Zambia has come so far in development? Or even the need to attract investors? I am shocked at your statement which acknowledges that MMD has a done a lot for this country, but it’s good news for everybody if you have now come to your senses..

  35. Fellow bloggers, remember that it is the same government that detained Kabimba at the airport last month when he came back from SA, they were hoping that he would be carrying illigal items but they found nothing. So even this purported e-mail is bogus. The government must be arrested!

  36. Phone and email hacking are now a problem in UK. Everyone is at risk and the solutions provided by the blogger #6 can not explain everything. People can hack your mail and send bad content without your knowledge and the server logs will incriminate you. Is that so simple to solve? What is not clear is why the complaints are now victims.

  37. Let the police do their job. No one should intimidate them. If PF are crooks, they will be exposed and this has nothing to do with RB. If they are not crooks, they will be cleared by the police. So, no blaiming each other.

  38. #37 Jury,

    No one is talking about development here, the CONCERN and WORRY is about sending Zambians to Afghanistan, WHICH IS VERY ALARMING AS ZAMBIA DOES NOT SUPPORT TERRORISM ACTIVITIES.

    And by the way am not PF but support RB, but you MORONS are misleading RB by creating this outdated type of propaganda.

    Ask Sudan, it takes resources, time and USA CONGRESS for the country to be removed from known terror activities in the USA. So why creating this negative image for propaganda purposes?

    Zambians have suffered enough through tightening of their belts during IMF SAP and during the time development aid was being withheld during the second republic.

    You are very very dull!!!

  39. This is a desparate act by a drowning govt. WK and PF dont get intimidated this thing will pass with time. They stop at nothing coz they are feeling the heat. Change is coming no matter how hard they try to step on PF members feet.If at all the alleged cash was received how did if find its way in Zambia without it being detected at all entry points or Zambia’s 8 neighours or where is it being kept. In banks or homes or some warehouse. We could have seen PF members driving all over latest cars plus campaign materials. The best will be ALL POLITICAL PARTIES DISCLOSE THEIR SOURCES OF INCOME FOR THIS YEAR’S GENERAL ELECTIONS.

  40. SHAKA OZ grow up how come your president was intercepted in Malawi trying to meet Taiwanese with a cache of money and by the way even South Africa grabbed some hard cash in US DOLLAR NOTES from Mr SATA and no explaination was provided by the cobra and as usual the Govt let him go there is no harm in finding out and you sound like Winter Kamimbya

  41. “In the e-mail, Mr Lubinda commented on the US$45 million donation to the PF from Taiwan for the party’s campaigns in this year’s tripartite elections.” Which land will pay for these millions? Zambians be careful or else expect serious problems in future.

  42. BWANA MUKUBA Do you know that smart money laundering is not about you carrying hard cash and cross the border. it comes in different formats. MMD did a fundraiser for their convention and where did PF get its money from??The problem with u is that u think all pipo that drive flashy cars have money. Ask about the outlook of owners of Mazhandu or Juldan you wouldn’t believe that they have such kind of money. There are a lot of rich guys in Zambia richer than your GBM but are not boastful

  43. MULONGOTI K are you so young as to remember that Kafupi and MMD got money from Taiwan for the 1991 election? What did they give in return? Your RBish is getting money from katumbi, DRC, Mugabe & Mutarika what are the promising them?

  44. Please give me a break! Given Lubinda sending a highly sensitive email to Wynter Kabimba when he can just walk to his office or have a chat using his cellphone! Ask any IT whiz kid and they will tell you how easy it is to create or hack into an email account my open question to those carrying out the investigations is whether they have the capacity to fully investigate this and come out with a realistic finding? My guess is that since technology in IT is dynamic the investigative wings are not abreast with what is happening as the investment in IT is lagging by far! This investigation will yield ZERO! True maybe engage the FBI and CIA for help! 

  45. Where is the $45million everybody is talking about? If this $45million existed, the bank governor could have blown the whistle on PF, because he is a MMD cadre. How do you receive millions without bank records? Total crap!!

  46. #41 Jury & # 50 Mulongoti K. Thanks for ur effort in trying to put sense in dunderheads like OZ Shaka. Whenever there is something to be discussed, they only route the take is insulting people with different opinions. OZ You said it takes the US Congress to do what? What is US congress. By the way the US is not headed by bucn of kaponyaz for me to be investigated for no reason. There’s freedom of speech. Get those jungle politics out of this blogg this is the 21st centuary.

  47. #58 Gumu gumu

    Gumu Gumu said,”By the way the US is not headed by bucn of kaponyaz for me to be investigated for no reason.”

    So you believe in freedom of speech in USA, but expect no Freedom of speech for PF opposition leaders who being persecuted in Zambia? WHAT A DOUBLE STANDARD. You want to promote human rights abuse in Zambia while trying to enjoy YOURS in the USA!

    So you KNOW that, “in Zambia the MMD is headed by bucn of kaponyaz who (use DEC & Police to) investigate for no reason.” WHAT A SHAME!

    Still the FBI should place YOU on a watch list because you are supporting jungle politics in the 21st century, human right abuses and false allegations against opposition political leaders in Zambia WHILE IN the USA.

    I still believe you a MORON who is misleading RB & MMD!!!

  48. #50 MULONGOTI K,

    We just have one President in Zambia and that is President Banda (RB). Are you not ashamed of yourself that you do not even know the Zambian constitution that says there is only ONE PRESIDENCY?

    You need magnifying glasses for your brain to think properly!!!

  49. #50 MULONGOTI K,

    Sata going to Malawi trying to meet Taiwanese INVESTORS and South Africa grabbed some hard cash in US DOLLAR NOTES from him, DOES NOT CONSTITUTE a CRIME!!!

    If Sata’s activities constituted a crime (you know that our President RB does not tolerate these activities) he would have been ARRESTED BY NOW by DEC and Police for money laundering!!!

    I still believe that RB and MMD is the best political party for Zambia but surely not at the expense of 19th Century False PROPAGANDA THAT DESTROYS Zambia’s reputation as A PEACE HAVEN IN Africa!!!

    MULONGOTI K, surely your head needs examination!!!

    DO NOT WORRY about MMD losing elections, MMD is winning the elections even without these useless propaganda!!

  50. #59 Shaka OZ Truthfully speaking I dont knw wat ur point is sir. I say this coz u seem to be all over da show. Every comment u make, u bring up a new topic. I’m failing to respond to you amicably. Firstly MMD did not bring up this issue of the e-mail.A private website did.what ZP & DEC r doing is merely what they are paid 4. Then in ur last comment you mentioned freedom of speech. In which way has MMD striped PF of that liberty? The only thing that has been consistent with your bloggs are insults. As for me being put on watch list, its not up to you. Im sure u wish you were working for one of them wings . so gud u hv realized the titanic is sinking so u got on a life boat MMD.

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