Government has said that it was premature for anyone to condemn President Michael Sata’s move to suspend the three Judges before the tribunal that has been put in place concludes its investigations.
Chief Government spokesperson Fackson Shamenda has justified the actions of the President to suspend the three judges stating that it is within his constitutional mandate.
He said that there have been numerous complaints from the public concerning the three Judges in question. Mr. Shamenda wondered why some opposition political parties are condemning the government on the suspension of the three judges when they are the same ones calling on the government to ensure the integrity of the judiciary is restored.
The minister said that the PF government is committed to restoring the confidence and dignity in the judiciary that was lost during the reign of the MMD.
Mr. Shamenda was speaking at a press briefing in Lusaka today
Meanwhile, Mr. Shamenda who is also information, broadcasting and labour minister has urged journalists to ensure they have minimum individual principles to guide them as they carry out their duties.
Mr. Shamenda stated that journalists in the country should not use their freedom to injure innocent citizens.
He said that in Zambia there is too much media freedom such that the likes of Chanda Chimba III have been allowed to go scot free even after having insulted President Michael Sata prior to last year’s elections.
The minister noted that people like Chanda Chiimba need to have a conscious adding that even Judas Iscariot who betrayed Jesus proved that he had conscious by hanging himself.
The minister was speaking during the world Press freedom day commemorations in Lusaka today.
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A Government of tribunals
how then will the integrity of the judiciary be restored
BECAREFUL Shamenda. What you are saying now will come to haunt you when time for prosecutions comes when next government comes in. Some people are so dull that I wonder how they run their homes. Why doesn’t Sata himeself respect Zambians and explains in detail at a press conference what is happening. We have a govt where every Minister can just stand up and issue a statement even while sitting in the toilet! AT LEAST RESPECT THE CITIZENS AND EXPLAIN PROPERLY IN WELL ORGANISED PRESS CONFERENCES AND ISSUE WELL ARGUED STATEMENTS. PF owes that little bit of respect to the people who voted them into power.
Govt calling for a free citizen to ‘hung himself’, why were these thugs elected into office?
Who are these members of the public? What exactly do they against judge Nigel mutuna? The only person who complained was an interested party called Fred mmembe. This case is huge and it is going to hang on sata, nchito and fred’s heads. You lot have scored an own goal. You are damaged goods forever! You’ve fallen on the proverbial own sword! Allergic to corruption….my foot!
What was wrong with what Chanda Chimba did, you moron! Chanda Chimba was merely exercising his rights, rightly or wrongly. If you feel aggravated why don’t you take him to court instead of firing the judges. Do these guys have children? They shouldn’t be allowed to have children when they are this dull – although it is too late to stop them because of their old age.
Shamenda has failed to defend his boss.
He has not raised an valid supportive point to support his boss’s action.
The fact the people have complained about the judiciary does not mean SATA should just go in and start whiping anyone he wants and anyone he finds, best on his vested interest, without following legal procedure.
Being president does not mean you are free to do anything you want in the name of ‘power vested in me’.
The nation still belongs to all zambians; he does not now in any way own it alone.
It is very clear for any person without mental challenge to see that he has done everything in the interest of, and to please, Mtembo and Mmembe.But doing so at the expense of public and tax payer funds through the tribunal created, to foster the interest of individuals.
I can’t believe this i.d.i.o.t Shamende was once a Union leader. It is incredible. I wonder what he was doing in that role….but anyone can be a union leader in Zambia. If chiluba was once the boss of Union bosses – anybody else can be and it is no measure of ability whatsoever. It is just that Shamenda is now surpassing Winter “Chipuba” Kabimba as the most annoying politician in Zambia.
iwe chikala mapuli yobe respect the elders especially the leaders wembushi we .your anger against our GRZ wont help you koswe.
The president acted within his legal powers to suspend the judges but whats wrong is the law, were there is real democracy i.e spain. USA, Britian, France or Germany the president or prime minister has no such powers or such laws doesnt excist. Get the sense people not insulting ur inteligence but u have to know whats happening around the world.
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There is nothing like SATA acted within the law.
Law is not blind; it has got context.
As a father at home, the fact that you have the legal right to discipline your children does not mean that when one of 7 kids has commited an offense you just pick any one of them and start whiping -NO. You investigate ti determine who did the wrong.
And in investigating you dont just side with the one whom you have chosen as favourite (of course if you are a wrong father) and then you beat anyone he accuses, even when he may be the one in the wrong.
Any wise father will do the investigations without disadvantaging any of the seven kids or siding with any of them or making any of them feel I am less preffered to my colleagues.
So what type of father is Sata, suspending people without facts.
I dont know what you are talking about.You are agreeing with Sata,he wants judges investigated,at the same time you are condeming him
When late LPM started the NCC well meaning Zambians called for clipping presidential powers. MMD protested that those calling for clipping executive powers just hated LPM. Late GK and others now crying foul went to scheme stupid degree qualification and age limit clause as constitutional ammendments. Other than PF all opposition parties then feasted from MMD’S bossom at NCC and forgot about the future. Now they have got what the wanted. Let The Tribunal open the can of worms both with regards to corrupt judges and the withdrawal of the DBZ case at the high court. It’s a double edged sword.
Mulifipuba mwebali against, what exactly do u want? Those judges were very corrupt, I wish yo father had a case n it was bein presided by these same lawyaers then u wud feel it. Don’t be fast at postin unsensible comment. Nonsense. Let them clean da judiciary.
Which mandate was followed in suspending these judges? The Judicial Commission and National Assembly have not been involved according to the normal procedure. UKWA acted beyond his powers.Â
(continuation) All complaints about judges are supposed to be directed to the JC
Hardy once told Bertrand Russell “If I could prove by logic that you would die in five minutes, I should be sorry you were going to die, but my sorrow would be very much mitigated by pleasure in the proof”. Russell agreed with Hardy wholeheartedly about the delights of proofs, as he himself comments in his Autobiography.
How does this relate to Sata? He is a dictator.
It is just a suspension, just like anyone who should be investigated should be suspended, if there is nothing wrong they did they will get back to work. Some of you are insulting saying judges have been fired. Get your facts straight instead of just condemning everything before you even understand, there is a reason why we have two ears and one mouth. listen twice as much you speak.
UKWA awe mwandi
Even suspension you dont just suspend; there should be good ground to do so.
You cannot suspend a judge based on the fact that the defendant, either in person or through his lawyers, has complained.
That is a matter of appeal; law has changed in Zambia.
It is not even Kangaroon law but probably monkey law.
I think if there is any country where people don’t know their directions , what they want , what to do is zambia . 90/% of Zambian they just follow wind where is is going . when you hate some one wht ever he does is wrong. That is why Zambia will not develop we just good at condeming we have no solutions, directions and needs.
IWE SHAMENDA ULEBEYAKO IFIMWEMFU TETI NDWE NOBE UBWALI ATA.
Shamenda Now believes the Media has Too Much freedom. Wow!! That is a common symptom of a Dictator. There are many Zambians who have been brain washed that a President should not be questioned!! They believe a president is a King who should be worshiped no matter what he does. We need to move away from this culture. A president is a human being just like any of you. He puts his pants on, one leg at a time. He is not a God. He is a Public servant and as such, should be scrutinized to z-th power. If a President can’t take that kind of heat, then he is not feet to be president and should go into private practice.
correction@ fit not feet
@chitapi, u shameless ***** y shud u be insultin our leaders. Go bonk yr mother and frm yr anger ur likely to die of heart attack. Wat daz article 98 part 3 say. U shameless dimwit wit yr ka tribal party ka up and down. Mwanya aluta continua
That decision was mooted at the LAZ AGM so no need to cry bafik***la. The presenter a retired Judge is chairing a similar tribunal in Kenya involving funny Judges.Â
Fight with LAZ not Sata !
Remember King Solomon’s test for two women cailming motherhood to a baby. He offered to slice the baby into two equal parts and the impostor mother agreed whilst the real mother said no give the baby to the other woman so that the baby lives. Only someone with something ro hide would want the tribunal not to take off (the case to die). Well done Mr President (man of action) you have done a “king Solomon” test
Firstly i wonder why and how this Shamenda even mentions Chanda Chimba? Is it not evident that every thing that he proclaimed about UKWA’ has come to be, he’s claiming there is nothing wrong with the judges suspension, wait until yuor turn comes. Your freind Mulongoti is already complaining.
HH YOU’RE SO SILLY .
HOW ON EARTH WILL
YOU TELL SOMEONE
TO RESIGN WHEN
YOU YOURSELF
HAS REFUSED
TO RESIGN FROM
UPND ? AND
HOW WOULD
YOU CALL SATA
DICTATOR WHEN
YOU YOURSELF
HAVE BEEN
A TRIBALIST-DICTATOR
IN YOUR TRIBAL PARTY-UPND
This is not a good way of cleaning up the judiciary.
This is doing a right thing but with wrong motives.
HH YOU’RE SO SILLY .
HOW ON EARTH WILL
YOU TELL SOMEONE
TO RESIGN WHEN
YOU YOURSELF
HAS REFUSED
TO RESIGN FROM
UPND ? AND
HOW WOULD
YOU CALL SATA
DICTATOR WHEN
YOU YOURSELF
HAVE BEEN
A TRIBALIST-DICTATOR
IN YOUR TRIBAL PARTY-UPND?
YOU’RE A FOOL AND
YOU’LL NEVER BE
PRESIDENT OF THIS
COUNTRY!
Now kubeba – Government stinks!
So on the one hand, it is “premature for anyone to condemn President Michael Sata’s move to suspend the three Judges”, yet on the other hand, Chanda Chimba should hang himself (just like Judas) to prove he has a conscious after betraying PF?Â
Uh, Sir… before there are any hangings, I think the jury is still out on PF too!
Truly, this is a very weak defense. Does Shamenda really have to “wonder” why some opposition parties are condemning government over the move? First, it smacks of political motivations, and second, if there really is so much evidence of wrongdoing (…or even just “complaints” against these judges as the Hon Minister says), then let’s have some hard examples. Else, for us simple minded, it’s all too close to Nchito and Mmembe so smells of corruption.
it is your puussy that stinks!
Fack Shamenda – The Government spokesperson
Agony is being a spokesperson for someone you don’t agree with…. Aaaaaarrrrggghhhh!
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#27 – You are obviously a mama’s boy and you think all women smell like your Mother.
Behave yourself silly girl, how are they going to admit you in MIT with such a very foul mouth!
time will tell..one day you will fall as well..
People let us be factual on this one.meember made sata win the last elections,that’s why most of his senior staff are now serving in government as a pay back.that’s why sata should have declared interest in this case and leave all complainants to forward there concerns to jc or judicial complaints committee.other wise all this case is smelling a very big dead dog.they are trying to undo each at our very expense.
@27 Even though @25’s Nubian princess posting might be offensive. I think you ve gone overboard. We are all conceived via a woman’s reproductive organs and born through the same. Lets exercise restraint and show respect for that sweet and fruitful part of a woman.
its not about sata this clause which gives power the president to suspend judges needs to be dropped so the some similar laws i.e president appointin : electoralcossion officers, disolving board (ERB, ZESCO) intructing police to prob case, we need to mature as a democacy to be a real model of african democracy.
It is not even anything to do with laws. In Zambia everything goes. We have lawyers deciding engineers’ works and engineers trying to sort out economic and accounting problems. We have grave-diggers trying to design roads and civil engineers designing epitaphs. You think you can come up with laws to sort out such confusion??? It should start by taking the horses back to the stables and releasing the eagles from the chicken pen… Awe kaya shuwa!!! Mu Zed cabe ine nalema!
it is within the law.theses guys in the judiciary went too far.Look at those judgements before election.no sympathy for these guys.
I think if there is any country where people don’t know their directions , what they want , what to do is zambia . 90/% of Zambian they just follow wind where is is going . when you hate some one wht ever he does is wrong. That is why Zambia will not develop we just good at condeming we have no solutions, directions and needs.
we spent too much money on these so called commissions and one wonders why using a malawian junior judge.
ALL THESE OPPOSITION PARTIES ARE ACTUALLY IN VIOLATION AND BREACH OF THEIR OWN CONSTITUTIONS,THEY HAVE NO MORAL RIGHT TO CALL FOR ANYTHING AGAINST THE RULING PRESIDENT IF WE HAVE TO BE SERIOUS.THEY CANT EVEN QUOTE OR CITE ANY PART OF THE CONSTITUTION THAT HAS BEEN BREACHED,THESE THINGS ARE NOT FOR UNDER 5 *****S,
@ 24 HH HAS NOT STOLEN OR DOES NOT OWE DBZ..MTEMBO AND THE POST OWE DBZ AND THAT IS WHAT HH IS SAYING. THE TWO MUST PAY BACK 14BILLION ZAMBIAN MONEY THEY OWE. SO DEBATE WITH FACTS AND NOT THIS ANT HH ANTICS ZAMBIANS ARE FED UP WITH.
you can criticise this government,but insulting it is of touch.
Ok. Is the Minister suggesting that Chanda Chimba should hang himself to prove he has a conscious? interesting
#47 OK, Yes Minister Shamenda is not suggesting but advising or directing that between Chanda Chimba or Mutomba Nchito one of them should hang-themselves for them to have honorable funeral.
Such a the best in zed.
Pursuant to the powers vested in me as president of the republic, i hereby drop the chief justice coz he ****ed my wife without my consent and i also establish one commisission to establish how he got thru to statehouse n tonyad kasebas boobsÂ
@23 ZEMUNTU – Is Shamenda you father? How does he manage to feed you throughout the month with this level of dullness? From your attacks I can conclude that you have taken his dullness gene as well – you don’t even know how to write in English, you moron. How can you talk about me and my mother….you think everybody sleeps with their mothers like you do! Check the comments on this story – you are the only odd one out. Finally, I think I intimidate you and I really enjoy that fact. By the way I know you have syphillis…so stop talking too much.
THISIS THE WORST GOVERNMENT THAT ZAMBIAHAS EVER PRODUCED
This case will DEFINE WHICH WAY WE WANT the country to head!!
DO WE WANT RULE OF LAW??? Or do WE WANT TO GO BY PERSONAL WHIMS???
If it’s Rule of Law, WE HAVE TO GO BY THE CONSTITUTION, meaning Complaint goes to JCC, then the Chief Justice, Then Presido!!
HOw many times are we going to let Govts get away with unconstitutional behaviour before we act???? WAITING FOR ELECTIONS, means another EPOCH OF PROGESS & DEVELOPMENT LOST!!!
IT’s NOT YET TOO LATE FOR PRESIDO TO SAY HE HAS MADE A MISTAKE & DEMAND FOR THE CORRECT PROCEDURE!!!
what constitution are you refering too!!!!!!! please read article 98 of the current constitution which is still in effect. The president has not made a mistake. please argue things out of rationality not by every whim you get or perception that you have……..read and be educated. constitution does not bring the judicial service commission in this..
What the pesido has done is constitutional behaviour. Sorry mate
Chabe chabe, NO ONE referred to Judicial Service Commission, IT IS THE JUDICIAL COMPLAINTS COMMISSION! You seem to have a problem with COMPREHENSION, read the Articles referred to by Musonda!
Fred Mmembe is the future Charles Taylor. Sata and Fred have now gone against people’s wishes and are blatantly flouting their power. These two are soon to get an armed disturbance in Zambia and they will destroy our beautiful country for their own good. Special note on Fred Mmembe: He even looks like a goon like Charles Taylor. He drives his swanky Hummer and other expensive cars and he is used to luxury.Â
But I am happy that when Fred Mmembe falls, there will be no sound. He will simply disintegrate. Be careful of this man and remember what I am saying. he is going to do a Chares Taylor in Zambia. He will bring death to us peace loving people. You all take care. I am afraid now. Good that I am far away from him.
Boycott and stop reading Post newspaper.Â
What else does this guy own? Already, I don’t buy the Post…. who needs to with online media!
@chitapi something, ur the most dullest blogger here. U better relocate to yr useless watchmbwa where yr type of postin is highly welcome. After finishin bonkin yr mother then start bonkin yr granny. Chi colour let hatred u habor towards bembas kill u. As for hh I promise dat quack will never occupy statehouse. During his press conference in his usual tribalism he talks of all judges on tribunal being from eastern, is that necessary?no wonder chipimo backed out coz he saw dat he was dealin wit tribalists
i thank God for suspension of the judges to pave way for investigations.There’s no smoke without fire.Its true alot of people have complained about corruption in the judiciary.Why the approah does it mean that judges can not be investigated?Do not fall into mobpsychology people of Zambia.My president has been mandated by God to cleanse Zambia of corruption and its not an easy task But God is with him and all the wicked arrows will not prosper.
Ukwa waitaya fast. U will suffer in order to rule. Timely advice take all citizen as the same. The only reason why ukwa has been heavily critisised its because of the way he has handled the dbz case. He could have just set up a tribunal to investigate alot of these corupt judges but alas he has done it like he is dancing to the whims of mmembe the zero
Stooge Shemende you are reading statement written by your boss Fred M’membe and Amos Malupenga nothing original in your s.h.i.t hopeless failed trade unionist.Do pipo still read the shinda pepa?Am just asking.
Imwe Yama! why should chanda chimba, hang himself for revealing the dark era of the Beast?
@charles,try to be serious, u xpect us to start readin trash, for yr info de post is highly credible and I enjoy buyin it. On 1st may in ndola it finisht before 10hrs where I was staying and I had to drive to town just to get a copy. Post patali sana. Its only frustrated hh and his few goons especially tongas who don’t buy it. So pliz don’t contminate us wit yr weird thinking. Viva post
You anti-HH idoits stop visiting this website, we are feed up with your shallow minds.If i find you again, i wanna……………..
The PF govt is working and will clean up the judiciary. Honourable Shamenda you are full of wisdom.
Colourful language today. Free virtual espresso offer removed.
Its astonishing to read that they are people so naive to see anything reasonable in what Sata has done. This issue has nothing to do with cleaning up the judiciary and its all about protecting the evil deeds of his master in M’membe. The evidence to support this is very much contained in the Terms of Reference (TOR) presented by Sata. The focus of the TOR is on this particular M’membe, Nchito V DBZ and nothing else. This to me does not suggest that these Judges are corrupt otherwise, it would have included a wider number of cases with the tell, tell signs of corruption. The timing of the presidents interference is a mis-calculation on his part and yet more evidence of the basis for this. The alleged file scam was done last year and why should Sata interfere when judgement is made?
what rubbish of judges these 3 suspended *****s. how do they think they got their public authority, to judge preside over the public, is it not by appointment from the president. do they think its in class at UNZa or whatever schools they went to. because of corruption that has gone to their heads and bones now they start questioning a person appointed by the president, and claim people on tribunal are juniors, what shit *****s are these judges. they are forgetting that even them their public authority they held was a result of presidential appointment. i am saddened by their reaction and behavior
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The problem is with the judges themselves. If you have been a partisan judge you should resign when a change of government takes place. Dont hide behind judicial independence when you know you were not independent. By hanging on you destabilise the judiciary by leaving new government with no choice but to kick you out.