MMD president Dr Nevers Mumba speaking at a press briefing in Lusaka.
FILE: MMD president Dr Nevers Mumba speaking at a press briefing in Lusaka.

MMD President Nevers Mumba has strongly condemned the decision by the Anti-Corruption Commission to summon Former Republican President Rupiah Banda over allegations of corruption and other criminal activities.

Dr Mumba said the MMD is appalled at the abuse of both office and constitution by President Michael Sata and the PF government.

He said President Sata’s instruction to the ACC to demand that Mr. Banda be summoned is a major breach of the constitution which has provided immunity to the former Head of State.

Dr. Mumba told a media briefing in Lusaka this afternoon that Mr. Banda enjoys immunity and that the demand for him to face the law enforcement agencies in an illegality that must be stopped.

“As a party, we do not seek to defend any wrong doing by anyone of us. If there is something wrong done while Mr. Banda was President, that can only be pursued by following constitutional provisions,” Dr. Mumba said.

He said the MMD considers the action by the ACC as part of the ongoing harassment of MMD leaders with the hope of destabilizing the party.

“It is immoral for this government to have released the letter from the ACC to the public media before serving it on Mr. Banda, this shows that the whole exercise is in bad faith and Zambians must demand that procedure of law is followed.

“We have not reacted to President Sata in his unreasonable assault on the opposition. His total disregard for the Law and the constitution he had sworn to defend. Today’s action is a step too far.”

Dr. Mumba said the action comes at a time when the PF wishes to sidetrack the population which is demanding to know the whereabouts of the President and his condition.

“The action also seeks to divert people’s attention from the failed policies of the PF administration,” Dr. Mumba stated.

He warned that the blatant disregard for the law and constitution continues to provide necessary material for the impeachment of the President.

Dr. Mumba alleged that President Sata wants to freeze the constitution so that he can govern by decree.

“The MMD is ready to stop the PF from fatally injuring the democratic gains made under the MMD leadership. We shall fight using all constitution avenues available to us including impeachment which now remains a strong alternative to stop this President from ruling by decree.”

He also condemned the action by the ACC to release the letter to all state media even before Mr. Banda could be served with the letter.

“It is immoral for this government to have released the letter from the ACC to the public media before serving it on Mr. Banda, this shows that the whole exercise is in bad faith and Zambians must demand that procedure of law is followed.”

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    • I am sure Sakeni didn’t know about the letter too. Therefore, Sakeni will issue a statement rubbishing Kabimba & Nchito’s acts, as usual.

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    • Guyz let just be Reasonable… am not MMD neither am i Nevers Mumba’s sympathizer
      but what he is putting across is politically right and morally wrong by the ACC.

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    • Why should it be harassment for summoning a plunderer to answer to case? Has the definition of harassment changed now that its Rupiah?
      When he was busy looting the treasury he never thought of the consequences of harassing the entire population through his blatant deprivation of the much needed social services such as roads, medicines, education, employments, housing, water & sanitation

      Don’t do the crime if you cant serve the time

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    • the satanist want to devert the attention from his cancer sickness and how he treated the late mwanawasa,and from the human sacrifices around the nation.he is the devil who moves with sangomas……………[email protected] real cabbage ha,ha,ha

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    • Ba Nevers will Never be our president because apart from running away from the pulpit u cannot understand the basics of Law. Our former president Mr. Rupiah is not being prosecuted but being interviewed for what he has always been suspected to have done: he has immunity against prosecution and no Zambian will allow that to happen without his immunity being lifted. Finally let the man clear the air, thats democracy.

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    • Pastors too have the freedom to speak their minds on matters of the nation, but not to block justice to prevail in the Land to all people.

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    • What does the Consitution say in Article 43? For record, I quote Article 43 (3) “A person who has held, but no longer holds, the office of President shall not be charged with a criminal offence or be amenable to the criminal jurisdiction of any court, in respect of any act done or omitted to be done by him in his personal capacity while he held office of President, unless the National Assembly has, by resolution, determined that such proceedings would not be not not be contrary to the interests of the State.”

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  1. This is the result of putting an uneducated person like sata as president. RB we regret for voting you out really.

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    • michel k
      most uneducated pipo are far much better than you the so called educated ones.they v morals, they care ,they are action oriented,hard working and above GOD fearing.hence what is education for if it can not anyone even your siblings.read again your mail it sounds like you are lazzy,dull,and frastruted chap.but look at track record of sata determination at heart.i love my president long live sata

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    • ALL YOU GUYS WHO ARE PF AND SATA’S CADRES: just shut up you ignoramusses. You can’t even vote for a better president. Just wait, very soon the same brutality will soon visit you or your close relatives. One day Sata will run out of people to harrass and will start harrassing yourselves. But I don’t expect you to get this simple logic, because you are dumb a.r.s.e.s. Zambia is better off without your stu.pidity. If Sata does not stop his nonsense he will be impeached or he will face widespread riots like Kaunda did in 1990. Kaunda tried to kill rioters, but in the end the Army threatened to take over through Luchembe. Sata with his terrible health would not even be difficult to take out. Don’t take Zambians for granted. Nobody is bigger than this country. Plus he is sick already..!!

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    • How many educated or Doctors did MMD have,all of them were just thieving ,stealing hammer mills meant for the poor,bicycles,CDF need i say more.we shilu we chi michael K. we love Sata thats why we voted for him.Its abakote like you that detest him cause of envy and greed.

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    • only ministers children and relatives are happy with the satanist.the glory is short for the satanist sata is dieing…….

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  2. Whats wrong with questioning a former head of state on matters that affect the public. They didn’t summon the chap to prosecute him, They summoned him to question him, Whats wrong with Mumba

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    • Just follow the constitutional procedure as outlined.Nobody is saying RB CANNOT BE QUESTIONED about any criminal act.Lift his immunity first.If one enters a house through a window when the door has no impediment for you to use,if it is your house,people will think you are getting mad and yet if it is not your house you surely risk being arrested.There is nothing that stops PF from lifting RB’S immunity, but to parade him before the so called task force is madness at its worst.RB SHOULD JUST IGNORE THE FOOLISH SUMMON FROM WANDI.

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    • Well said, Thomas!
      When immunity was lifted from one Kafupi, some people cried foul saying he had not been given chance to be heard. Now one RB is being given a chance to be heard before immunity lifting procedures can be implemented, some big-mouthed people are crying foul!
      Mr. Nevers Mumba, please, won’t you spare us from noise?

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    • @ Stephen. When people have been telling you to read the Zambian constitution you have decided to ignore them and oppose everything from a point of ignorance. If you pick up the current draft constitution (as a guide) you will see that on page 66, clause 96 clearly explains this matter.

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    • The Consitution states in Article 43 (3) “A person who has held, but no longer holds, the office of President shall not be charged with a criminal offence or be amenable to the criminal jurisdiction of any court, in respect of any act done or omitted to be done by him in his personal capacity while he held office of President, unless the National Assembly has, by resolution, determined that such proceedings would not be contrary to the interests of the State.”

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    • Nevers Mumba is a mad man. After questioning Rupiah Bwezani Banda for wrongs done against the Zambian people (looting with his cohorts – a mere peasant farmer turned millionaire in 3 yaers) while he was in office and prima facie case is established, Parliament will decide whether to list his immunity or not. In the event that his immunity is lifted, let him dance to the music like one Kafupi Wa Bufi danced to the tune. Useless and senseless Pastor.

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  3. The Question is: does a former president’s immunity cover being questioned by law enforcement agencies or it covers prosecution only? It it covers prosecution only, then the ACC has the right to question RB. I think that interpreters of our laws have given the GRZ advice on this.

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    • Thanks Chris for a pragmatic approach. The provisions over Criminal matters relating to a former President are provided in the Consitution in Article 43 (3) “A person who has held, but no longer holds, the office of President shall not be charged with a criminal offence or be amenable to the criminal jurisdiction of any court, in respect of any act done or omitted to be done by him in his personal capacity while he held office of President, unless the National Assembly has, by resolution, determined that such proceedings would not not be contrary to the interests of the State.”

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    • You said the same about Mugabe and he is still alive! Ofcourse he hasn’t got long to go due to his age.

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    • That is one thing I wonder about these so called prayer warriors, they don’t pray for substantive thing like, “let’s pray to stop crime in Chibolya, or poverty in Misisi.” If indeed prayers worked, some of the major battles Mumba is involving himself in, assuming they are legitimate, would be solved by a prayer. But even he know, prayer does not work!

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  4. oh! dream on never going anywhere. we the majority youths voted for sata and you think you can have it easy? dream on nevers with hh the freemanson

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  5. The crying baby Mumba had it again.Mr President don,t incite Zambians,the country will be at fire,please mind for the people who cannot fly and worse enough to cross the borders.

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  6. Since this has become a matter of public interest, if RB goes I hope he will go with his supporters in numbers and questioned in public. N latest on Wynter?

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  7. MUMBA ULISHILU, WHAT DID YOU MEAN WHEN YOU TOLD ZAMBIANS THAT YOU ARE SORRY FOR THE MISDEEDS THAT WENT ON OR HAPPENED DURING MMD´S MISRULE? I AM VERY SURE THAT YOU ARE USED TO PROTECTING CRIMINALS IN YOU ROTTEN PARTY. HOW COME SUDDENLY YOU BECOME RUPIYA`S SPOKES PERSON.

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    • My friend, he is not protecting RB, but he is trying to frotect the constitution.
      Just because there a strong evidence does not mean that you forgo the constitution.
      Let them follow the procedure of handling the matter.
      Look at what Mwanawasa did.

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    • pliz stop confusing the nation. the constitution does not say a former president cannot be called to give info on any mater partaining to the wellbeing of the nation. it talks about ” PROSECUTION” THE FAMOUS ARTICLE 43 IS REALLY BEING MISCONSTRUED!!

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  8. Although I am a Barotseland national, i find this very provocative and unconstitutional, i read the letter in its entirety and there are only threats without substantiated facts. This is a scheme by the top leadership to have ba Bwezani imprisoned. Ba Bwezani you are only paying for your current international recognition. The President (SATA) knows too well that he will never achieve what you did for your Country in three years even if he be given a third term (15 years)

    What are his latest successes? Is it the rebased Kwacha which is now trading at 5,500 to the dollar? the rampant Mealie-Meal Shortages, formation of one party state and creation of a PF police or appointment of maids, secretaries, relatives as Ambassadors???

    Why cant Zambia and indeed Zambians rise up and…

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  9. This isn’t new. Witch hunting has become a norm with world leaders. Now he can enjoy doing that but when his time comes he’ll be pleading and trying to convince the Zambians that he did not abuse his authority while in power. A damn shame

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  10. Well, for now I will wait from some useless and brainless statement on this issue from Fred Mmembe through George Chellah and the Sakeni.

    But let me say this: This whole exercise is a total waste of time and cover up of how useless this government is being seen in the eyes of Zambians.

    Lets face it, Zambia has divided parliament and you need two thirds to pass anything sensible. In short Sata can’t be impeached and RB immunity can’t be lifted.,neither side of the camp has the numbers .

    It is sad for PF to start creating these time wasting debates. Can we develop this country please? Can Prof Chirwa hold another public lecture to stimulate us to debate about something sensible please? Am tired of so much trivial day in day out

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    • You are very wise and sensible. From today, i will be looking forward to your blogs & of course Prof. Chirwa’s lecture was a serious breath of fresh air. Some people called his targets, but that is those of us who work in projects are tasked to work; with targets and input, process and outcome indicators as well sustainability plans.

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    • It is good you are one of the few Zambians that actually research before commenting. The provisions over Criminal matters relating to a former President are provided in the Consitution in Article 43 (3) “A person who has held, but no longer holds, the office of President shall not be charged with a criminal offence or be amenable to the criminal jurisdiction of any court, in respect of any act done or omitted to be done by him in his personal capacity while he held office of President, unless the National Assembly has, by resolution, determined that such proceedings would not not be contrary to the interests of the State.”

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  11. Nevers is a joker who obviously knows that if RB is also under investigations for the over adulterated corruption, the funding for clueless campaign comes to a halt. There is no doubt that alot of corruption happened under RB’s watch and rightfully so the whole MMD was a bunch of plunderers. PF is definitely on drive to consolidate its hold on power but Nevers should not misinterpret his flawed pollitical campaign as the focus of Zambia’s greatest politician President Sata who undoubtebly remains the country’s most inspirational and visionary leaders. Viva Sata, Viva PF for the next 100 years.

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  12. Mwe bantu! What is wrong with questioning RB? I see no reason for people to get agitated over this simple matter. If RB has nothing to be afraid of, good for him. People should not just condemn and criticise with no basis. Elyo, iwe Mumba, you are even lucky. You are the one who is supposed to be impeached in MMD! You have not done anything for the party but bring confusion left, right and centre!

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  13. Ka mumba ubufi. What are the real reasons why you are saying what you are saying. Ukubepa abantu chalipwa nomba. Iwe uleya mu chifungo.
    Napwa

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  14. MR NEVERS MUMBA YOU ARE A ********..RB IS A CRIMINAL.RB AND HIS SONS RAPED THE NATION JUST LIKE YOU WERE RAPING OUR CASH IN CANADA..TO HELL WITH YOUR DREAM OF BECOMING ZED PRESIDO…RUPIAH THE BASTARD MUST FACE THE LAW…..FULLS TOP

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  15. Questioning with intent to prosecute and convict a third party, or to question the summoned party who might implicate himself/herself in a matter before court/under investigations, and prosecuting the summoned party is one and the same. The immunity acts as a membrane which can easily be punctured by a formidable team of prosecutors. The very same constitution which provides the shield for the former head of state against prosecution, it smultaneously creates cracks in that immunity. Dr. Mumba is correct to protest against the issuance of the summon in which Mr.Banda has been subpoenaed to appear before the investigation team.
    The other option/root which the MMD must consider is to immediately assemble an experienced of team of criminal defence attorneys who can advise Mr. Banda.

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    • Boom & whatever, writing nice words does not prove that you are educated as you would like people of your kind to believe.I know you nyogga and you do not impress me!!!!

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    • @BOOM & WHATEVER#21
      About the last sentence, please kindly disregard ‘of’ immediately after ‘experienced’

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    • correct Tony Blair appear before govt committe,,, not ACC… THINK MY BOY, use your head donot just eat muzungu leftovers,,THINK!

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    • You tend to attach to much importance to trivialities. Questioning a former leader is not tantamount to prosecution.

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  16. MR NEVERS MUMBA SHUD B ABLE 2 NO DAT HIS RUPIAH BANDA HAS THE SO CALLED IMMUNITY FROM BEING PROSCUTED NOT INTERVIEWED HE IS BEING CALLED 4 INTERVIEWS & THEIR AFTER IF THE ACC FINDS HIM WANTING THEY WILL RECOMMEND 2 PARLIAMENT THRONGH THE PRESIDENT 2 HAVE HIS SO CALLED IMMUNITY REMOVED & THEN TAKEN 2 COURT 4 PROSCUTION. LET NEVERS NO DAT ACC DOESN’T PROSCUTE PIPO AT THEIR OFFICE BUT PROSCUTION ONLY TAKES PLACE IN SIDE THE COURT OF LAW.LASTLY WAT TYPE OF A HUMAN BEING IS NEVERS WHO WISHES PRESIDENT SATA 2 DIE JST COZ HE WANT 2 B PRESIDENT

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    • Well put ALEX. Now imagine Nevers Mumba can’t even interpret such a simple aspect of the constitution and wants to be our President. The calibre of politicians in Zambia leaves a lot to be desired.

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  17. We know Sata’s moves. Let him harrass RB. The same law will be used against Sata and his family when he lives power. No doubt. Unless he knows he doesn’t have many years to live, which is likely. May be Zambia would be better off. We did not vote for dictatorship. If he doesn’t like it, let him leave State House. If he wants to deal with RB, Sata should ask Parliament to lift his immunity. The stup.dity of illterate presidents is that they forget that they will be treated exactly the same when they live office. Nobody is saying RB should not be investigated, but the law must be followed. We are getting really tired with this very sick man….honestly.

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    • Ndobo, I’m failing to make sense out of yor comment, some parts have been deleted meaning you were insulting.

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    • Chitapi…
      What should guide the decisions of any worthy government official or the President is the national interest and not self interest. All your reasoning and complaints are based only on the consideration of self interest. The President and all well-meaning government officials must never act solely on the basis of self interest, but must consider the benefit for the country. If Mr. Sata does wrong while serving as President and is prosecuted after his tenure, should that be a major consideration whether or not to visit other current or past wrong doers with the law?
      Let us think more dispationately and argue more intelligently!

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    • @ Kolwe Mwanakolwe: You are failing to understand what NDOBO has said because you PF thugs are totally illiterate and dull. Me dying before Sata? Who cares what you think, just a PF cadre without hope! I’m YOUR GOD on earth, you must kneel before me and pray! You PF ignoramusses think violating the constitution is cool. You are so dull and illiterate no wonder you are now thinking that stopping English to study in your mother-tongues is the only way you can catch up with the rest of us! I can assure you that even after learning in your mother tongues you will still fail to catch up. Dullness is written into your DNA, so I don’t blame you for that. I know after you fail in your mother tongues you will RE-BASE back to English…since re-basing is the only strategy you seem to know.

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  18. Nevers it is like you are power hungry. Look at the Catholic bishops they just talk and not going to stand as a president of a party shame on you. You think you will be president one day shame just tell your wife that you will never see plot one. Let RB just go and report at ACC and if he is innocent he will go and enjoy himself but if found guilty then he will have to go to prison and you can go and pray for him.

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  19. How do you gather evidence without questioning somebody? How do you remove someones immunity before you establish if whatever allegations levelled are true or false? How do you conclude from hearsay and present the allegations to parliament before the alleged person is question and given a chance to clear himself? What if we remove RB’s immunity and then find out that the allegations are not true are you going to restore his immunity?
    Let us be objective let the man clear himself and if its not true then he continues to enjoy his immunity.
    Do you have to remove his immunity before you establish the truth?
    you will only go to parliament when the evidence is proved and ready to prosecute, its not like you are prosecuting the man its questioning.

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  20. FIRST MUMBA MUST ASK RUPIA AS TO WHY HE CRIED AND TOLD SATA THAT NOMBA FYE ELO TWAKAKWA, THAT WAS THE SAME MOMENT HE WAS HANDLING OVER THE INSTRUMENT OF POWER TO SATA? THESE THINGS ARE ON RECORD AND TAPED BY ALL THE MIDIA THAT WERE PRESENT. RUPIA REMOVED THE ABUSE OF OFFICE IN ODER TO SHIELD THEIR LOOT.
    MUMBA MUST KNOW THAT THERE WAS ONLY ONE REASON AS TO WHY RUPIA EMPLOYED CHANDA CHIMBWI TO DISCRADIT SATA AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TOWARDS ELECTIONS, RUPIA NEW THAT IF SATA COMES INTO POWER HE WILL BE LIKE LEVY AND THINGS WILL NOT BE GOOD FOR THEM. YOU CAN IMAGINE THAT RUPIA AND HIS GOVERNMENT ADOPTED CHILUBA AS THEIR MENTOR AND POLITICAL CONSULTANT, DIDN`T THAT REALLY TELL WHAT KIND OF PEOPLE THEY WERE? MUMBA SHOULD KNOW THAT IS NOT EVEN NEAR ANYTHING LIKE IMPEACHMENT, BUT RUPIA WAS. ICINTINYA.

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  21. Where is Mumba going to get the majority MPs to execute that impeachment is talking about when he is loosing MPs every time. Mind you not all UPND MP are against the PF government. Read the constitution itself and understand it properly. Questioning and prosecuting are two different things. Leakages have made some of you people claiming to be educated not understand things you claim to be. Let RB clear his name as simple as that. Nevers made all of us to believe him when he was a pastor with his crusades only to dump us to fill his ambitious. He made us believe that Zambia would be saved spiritually and yet he had different thoughts in his mind. be careful with his charismatic behaviour.

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  22. This sanctimonious pastor is a muppet and a joker; look at him when their are real issues to be debated that affect joe public he is mute and you call this opposition – useless chaps.

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  23. Quiet a number of people on this blog do not reason…..and if this is thetype of individuals we have to contribute to such important issues,then am afraid.whats wrong with questioning RB?Whats so special with him?He is no longer a president and some bloggers here have not accepted.Mind you, am again saying president SATA is a very tolerant man,if it was me,i wud have sent RB in prison immediately.

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    • @ Paolo Di Canio: Lift RB’s immunity first. Otherwise you will sending the country into chaos. Sata and PF were voted for by less than 50% of the Zambian population. Don’t forget that!

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  24. Kabimba set a precedence, If RB wishes to go to the ACC offices, let him go with his sympathizers and demand to be interviewed on camera like Wynter Kabimba did since this is also a matter of Public interest…
    The point is ACC has lost the moral authority to champion fight against corruption. The ACC should stop playing double standards and ensure fairness before the law.
    If this Wandi lady can not operate without political interference, let her resign with immediate effect.
    Why is she in a hurry? Why not present the allegations to the house for consideration; It’s only the National Assembly that can open up a former Head of State for probing by stripping off his/her immunity.
    what Wandi is calling for is lawlessness and this should be treated with the contempt it deserves.

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  25. Boom you are correct. How I wish the youth we have were as educated as you.
    Believe me, sata is creating an empire of dull youthlike him and kabimba.
    Don’t support blindly. They have deliberately done this so that if he follows the law and refuse to appear b4 the acc then his imunity can be lifted.

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  26. No one has side RB has committed a crime, no.But he has been requested to attend an interview for some issues only to be mentioned as he answers questions, we pick it up from there, all the best!

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  27. Why cant Sata and RB just reconcile after all they are both from the UNIP era. Let Charles Milupi take the country forward in a new direction. We are tired of these recycles politicians and we dont want immature ones either. Charles Milupi is the only mature leader on the scene at the moment and we need to swallow our egotistic parochial leanings on tribe on popularity.

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  28. Irrespective of our differences with the Sata’s camp, if the law was breached and there is enough evidence against suspected parties then the attorney general must compile a dossier and place it before a jugde president at a high court level. Witnesses willing to testify against the prime evil accused persons must be placed under a Witness Protection Programme. Only after the witnesses tender wholistic evidence in which they also implicate themselves in the commissions of crimes, then the presiding judge president upon satisfactory reflection of the state tendered evidence he/she can grant amnesty to the witnesses.
    Therefore, Sata should not unnecessarily be condemned before the would be marathrone prosecutions are concluded. Let legal minds argue and cross-examine witnesses.

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    • Mutomoto, you must also look at the expanded version of Article 43. This is how the law is applied, it requires you and I to expand the taken for granted. Simply put, the cream of the matter is not what it seems. It is not give and take. The law provides other loop holes for the prosecutors to build a formidable against the former head of state. It is the duty of the defense attorneys to identify those flaws and to develop a defense strategy so as to puncture the state case against their client/s.

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  29. You are all fools, why are you protecting thieves does it mean rich people should not be questioned .For real i miss the KK days when one whould be questioned on how they aquired their wealth.No wonder why there all these deaths ,satanists ,boma people building massions everywhere cause there are no checks .I remmember in Kitwe KK released the RED BALLET they beat up people in Kitwe for not having receipts for their property .It was displine ask Grey Zulu ku farm very serious minds not FIKABOLALA IMWE IN 20 YEARS ifima fumo UKO only KK .Copper thieves are free nama Hummer ba Grade 7 you cant even question them HOW?mwefipuba

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    • you are spot on my nyogga!!! Copper thieves are busy showing us their Hummers but no one is questioning them the source where they get money money money?

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  30. Impeach that sick old dull man!!!Our cities luk lyk sh*t,the kwacha is dyn,the opposition oppressed!!!Get him out of state house….Man of God kip it up,u hav my vote!!!Dont Kutina!!!!!

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  31. That’s the problem with Third World countries especially Africa, we think presidents are some kind of untouchable gods that’s why they abuse their offices. They hate being challenged, get offended when questioned. Personally I feel RB was Zambia’s worst leader but I don’t feel he should be persecuted but let him be answerable to any crimes and abuses he may have allegedly committed. His international duties may fool others but we all know why we kicked him out of office

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  32. chikala rb is no longer presido..if mubarak can be questioned ..what of ba rb a known thief atase….let the thug answer the questions from acc…yu and your family are enjoying the luxury of zamtel sale..while we are suffering peacefully..stupid ***** just go and answer the questions…fullstop

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    • Can you tell us what RB stole, when how and where? Stop being emotional and try to be level headed. If RB is a “Known thief” then take the evidence to Parliament and remove his immunity.

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  33. who is a thief between RB and the patient..?bear with me ..RB will come out clean on this..his immunity has to be lifted before he appears b4 PF-ACC..this lawlessness by pf is a danger to peace..what about wynter’s case and GBM ..how far have they gone..?

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  34. Educated or not SATA remains President of the Sovereign State of Zambia. Imagine, he defeated all the learned Pundits of this Mother Zambia in September, 2011. Hesh it is sad that people are still choking with envy over SATA’s Presidency under the pretext of opposition harassment. Truth be told; How many Zambian Professors, Fellows, Engineers have done anything tangible for mother Zambia from time immemorial? Sata should be given credit in his seemingly humble education, he has managed to ascend to the presidency the highest office in the land. It takes God almighty to select a leader for his people at a given time. David and Goliath story in the Bible speaks volumes as to what God does.
    May God heal mother Zambia from self acclaimed learned pundits and only keep it for visionary Saints.

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    • @ MWAKUNDUNGA – Judging from your name, your head is really in a spin and your brain in a swirl. I think the topic under discussion is beyond your capacity because it has left you in a daze. Try and ask people who have understood what the real issue is. By that I mean, try and ask Zambians who ARE NOT members of PF – because your fellow PF MEMBERS have already done enough damage to your brains. Step out of PF to get some wisdom, may be after our treatment and when we send you back to PF you might be the only voice of wisdom in your PF. GOSH, it is like the PF is now a den full of pre-historic dinosuar weirdos all growling around in noises that do not make sense even to themselves. Step our of that den and come to us for bit of wisdom, PF is f.u.c.k.i.n.g your heads up you guys!!!

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  35. For FJT, there was a dossier called the Matrix of Plunder of National Resources as perpetrated by FJT and his people. The same dossier was presented in Parliament to lift FJT’s immunity by the then sitting president, LPM. Why can’t the same be done for RB, so that his immunity is lifted and prosecutions can start and then we can all move on. Where is the problem? We are now beginnig to use technicalities of ‘it is questioning and not prosecution’. Why use shortcuts. If data is readily available as it is purported, please present it to Parliament through HE MCS and get the man in the dock to answer for his ‘sins’. Zambians seem to enjoy such gymnastics that do not add value to anyone.

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  36. 2003

    Times of Zambia and the Post

    The removal of former president Frederick Chiluba’s immunity is a clear message that the rule of law rather than men should rule, said Vice-President Enoch Kavindele yesterday.

    Moving a motion to suspend Standing Orders 17, 18 (1) and 96 to enable the House adjourn sine die, Vice-President Enoch Kavindele said the removal of Chiluba’s immunity was a firm foundation on which the future of the country must be built.

    Comment : Ba tata don’t quarrel with the pastor. Please appease him by removing RB’s immunity first. Let us follow the same steps we followed to nail the master dribbler.

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    • Mulekwatako umichinshi ba tata any elder is your father or mother Lesa mwe leleni uyu why hurt a person to this extent if their is something he has done wrong ,2 wrongs never make a right his time will come

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  37. 36.1 If you are in formal employment show us your payslip and bank statement to support your money or if you got a loan it will be proved

    2.If you are in Informal or business person show us your books and your remmitances to ZRA
    3.Nga ni mwe bo pa popwe go and answer
    4.Nga mu la pululuka ba Yesu is there your will come

    Cheers Mwebantu

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  38. There is no court above parliament in Zambia that can begin to question RB allegations of corruption. To begin with PF govt should have moved a motion to remove immunity of former president Banda. There after motion successfuly goes through parliament, then spineless ACC controlled by PF Sata should have the ball to play around. At it stands now it just demonstrates how ignorant the entire PF group is ( may be aware but choose to trangrace the law deliberately, however this leads to bad and crookedness as character of PF governance in the eyes of Zambians). This wont reap any positive results until PF govt is schooled in governance. Zambians await further action, in the same vein we do not shield corruption where proven law has to take its course as was the case with late Mwanawasa reign.

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  39. The likelihood of prosecuting a case in which Mr. Banda is likely to stand trial or testify has nothing to do with the Sata’s victory in 2011 presidential elections. And there is no proof that God favoured Sata over other presidential candidates. If the work of hand picked investigators is to enjoy the respect of legal minds and that of the citizenry, ‘activities’ associated with Sata must not be connected with this investigation.
    Sata is not immortal and he cannot remain in power indefinitely. The same sovereignty which Zambia exercises can compromise the powers and limits of a president if abused. So beating drums of ignorance is as good as jumping the gun or shooting oneself in his/her foot.
    One has to define the powers enjoyed by the rulers in to proportion to the ruled.

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  40. PASTOR, PLEASE DO NOT MISLEAD US.

    ARE YOU RUNNING HELTER SKELTER!

    THE IMMUNITY IS AGAINST PROSECUTION AND NOT AGAINST INTERVIEWS.

    IN ANY CASE RB HIMSELF HAS IN THE PAST OFFERED TO COOPERATE IN ANY INVESTIGATIONS…..

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  41. For the sake of discussants who are allergic to the dictionary. IMMUNITY in this regard simply means EXEMPTION FROM LEGAL ACTION. If the action by ACC is not a legal action RB can go otherwise he remains exempted and thats why the DG of ACC has indicated of pursuing other avenues if doesnt. Kindly telling HEMCS to follow the constitution is only an INSULT to illiterates. HEMCS has sworn to defend the constitution not the electorates and if he does that we are safe.

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  42. For the sake of discussants who are allergic to the dictionary. IMMUNITY in this regard simply means EXEMPTION FROM LEGAL ACTION. If the action by ACC is not a legal action RB can go otherwise he remains exempted and thats why the DG of ACC has indicated of pursuing other avenues if doesnt go there. Kindly telling HEMCS to follow the constitution is only an INSULT to illiterates. HEMCS has sworn to defend the constitution not the electorates and if he does that we are all safe.

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  43. NICOLAS SARKOZY, SILVIO BERLUSCONI AND I HAVE BEEN CALLED TO TESTIFY WITHOUT REMOVING OUR IMMUNITY.

    SO WHAT IS SO SPECIAL ABOUT ABOUT YOUR RB, WHO IN MY VIEW PRESIDED OVER THE MOST CORRUPT REGIME SECOND ONLY TO HIS COUSIN, CHILUBA?

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  44. Questioning and prosecution are all in the same package called immunity. Remove immunitt and u can have a go at him. But not before Kabimba’s case is concluded!

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  45. Why doesnt the whole country just resign and just leave Sata to rule alone and noone. It is just absurd what is happening in Zed. Poni banthu baliko uko?

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  46. I am confused about this so called prisidential immunity because I recall that KK was arrested on christmas eve by Chiluba’s MMD. Under what law was that done? Some one help me.

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    • @ OGA – First of all, there is no English word called “prisidential”. You have been looking in the wrong dictionary, no wonder you are confused and your reasoning definitely sounds weird! When you find the correct spelling, you will understand the point that everybody else is making. Try and look for the correct spelling in The Concise Oxford English Dictionary…at the British Council Library in Lusaka. After consulting the COE Dictionary, PLEASE go to Wynter Kabimba and warn him about the dangers of getting rid of English in our schools. Just imagine the damage that will happen to you or your children 5 years after learning in your mother-tongue – you won’t even be able to consult Google or comment on Lusaka Times. Problem is, you PF chaps can’t think beyond your noses!!!

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  47. TIMELY ADVICE FOR ACC’s Rosewin Wandi.
    If the ACC Director-General got her degree at UNZA she must have known of an important humanity course based on the “African Studies”. However Rosewin must first glance at our constitutional calender to realise that PF has only 3 years of its rule in govt. Rosewin must be extra careful if she has to sustain her job in Zambia. Rosewin is embarking on dangerous errands. She must know that: yes Sata has his supporters; but leaders such as Milupi, Sakwiba Sikota, HH, Nevers Mumba, including the former Presidents Chiluba, Mwanawasa and RB, also have numerous supporters too. Rosewin’s assignment to harass RB will infuriate the people of Eastern Province and the rest of Zambia. She is fueling explosives that will soon blow-up in her own face.

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  48. I wish to advise the Movement for Multiparty Democracy (MMD) to make use of its legal minds before making statements that have the potential to further embarrass the former ruling party. Article 43 (3) of the Constitution of Zambia does not bar a person enjoying immunity such as the former Head of State Rupiah Banda from being interviewed by investigative wings. Former President Banda is only insulated against being charged and that is not ACC’s jurisdiction. It is therefore an exercise in futility for the Opposition MMD to attempt to make Mr. Banda’s summon as an illegality.

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  49. Job in the Bible cursed the he was born because of the problems he was going thru, equally if the immunity are removed, RB would curse the day he became a republican president.
    He would definitely face a # of corrupt charges. He knows this himself very well.
    The truth is that the man can not survive the dragnet of being convicted and consequently thrown into jail.
    How I would rejoice on that day. As for me No place for forgiveness in my heart to plunderers and corrupt people, because these are Pre-meditated crimes.

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  50. Boxer u r funny… God does not answer prayers from sinners..may be Never is living is sin…Only the grace of God may do the trick… anyway Talking to RB is different from being prosecuted.. GRZ (ACC) has a right to talk to anyone…ACC is not a Court.

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  51. Any right thinking person would talk like Mumba. Some of us whether Sata goes or not our life will move on. Sata will one day join Levy Mwanawasa and will be the thing of the past. He may be remembered for attempting to overthrow democracy using greedy people and chancers with no regard for the poor. He many be lucky and many not live to see his immunity removed – I wonder what will be on his tombstone- hear rests the great father of democracy or here rests a man who ruled by a iron hand- PLEASE SATA- a Roman soldier told his boss Aurelio that- you are just human and will soon die and be remembered only by fools before killing himself.

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  52. HIS IMMUNITY ONLY FROM PROSECUTION NOT FROM QUESTIONING OR INVESTIGATION.HOW DO THEY DECIDE WHETHER TO LIFT HIS IMMUNITY OR NOT IF THEY DO NOT INVESTIGATE OR KNOW WHAT HE DID

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    • Why Kabimba and GBM still free? Mockery of the higherst order. I wonder if these so called ACC have no shame? Where is Mmembe and Nchito brothers today? I thought they have charges they are supposed to face? This website is full of PF cadres who believed in Dont kubeba song to put more monery in the pocket but now is more holes in the pocket.

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  53. Ba Attorney General, M Malila, please advise the President against abrogating the constitution. RB still enjoy immunity from the legal process for matters arising during his teure in office.

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    • Motomoto, you posted article 43 and i thought you understood the article in question, oh no. ACC is no court my friend . Go back and read it again without looking at RB or Nevers Mumba and Sata or PF on the other hand.

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  54. Ba Attorney General, M Malila, please advise the President against abrogating the constitution. RB still enjoys immunity from the legal process for matters arising during his teure in office.
    The procedure for lifting the immunity of a former President is enshrined in the Constitution.

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  55. Chisunde sunde mu muntu, after all these years doing that I am sure by now you are stinking with human urine.

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  56. This is a reason why we are a dirt nation. A constitution is there to rule us and not individuals. We throw paper,plastic, faeses on streets and wait for Chinese to clean it for us. We are useless people who have total disregard for the law. If the law provides immunity why disregard the law? Stupid zambians

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    • Mulifo, don’t say stupid Zambians. Say stupid Mulifo for not reading the constitution. Witch law has been disregarded ?

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  57. mwanawasa was a very inteligent President…………………these morons should learn from mwanawasa on how he handled the chiluba issue

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  58. this man is totally a fool i thought this fool and mwanawasa fixed chiluba over corruption cases.so why are crying today.when you joined mmd you said you wanted fight corruption so what has changed today mambala iwe.on the impeachment of the president forget about it

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  59. IF THE IMUNITY OF ZAMBIAN PRESIDENTS IS GOING TO MAKE THE THIEVES AND MANIPULATORS OF THE LAW, THEN IT’S HIGH TIME THE ACC AND POLICE ARE GIVEN POWER TO REMOVE THE IMUNITY WHEN THEY ARE NO LONGER IN POWER.THIS IMUNITY TO ME MEANS GO AND DO ALL RUBISH FOR YOU WIL BE PROTECTED.WHY DO WE FORGET EASLY,WHEN RB WAS PRESIDENT WE USED TO SAY THE LAW WIL VISIT HIM,LET IT BE SO,SO THAT EVEN SATA WIL HAVE TO FACE THE LAW IF IT WIL BE NESCESARY PERIOD LETS CLEAN ZAMBIAN

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  60. Ass kissing by Nevers even when he knows it is justifiable to call upon anyone for questioning.

    Indeed the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil.

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  61. Pastor Mumba how can you impeachment when you don’t have the required number of MPs? Mumba please kapenene uko tatulekufwaya ifwe.
    Kabimba should also be interrogated so as GBM. PF please don’t apply selective justice.

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  62. MMD cannot impeach President Sata because:
    a) The full house has not sat in parliament as some members are not fully serving a mandate ie. their elections are still being petitioned.
    b) A 2/3 majority is needed to impeach a President and both UPND & MMD do not form that number.
    c) There are no grounds for impeachment, the issue of nominating Chibesakunda is not impeachable since she has not been appointed yet, Obama made unconstitutional appointments last week and all that is done is such instances is to invalidate the appointments and not impeach a President.

    If you want to argue with me, please express points of law and intellect and not senselessness. Regards.

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    • Pola , your question is as funny as your name, however i will answer it. The point of question mr. RB is to establish whether or not they is a reason to prosecute him.

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  63. The RB clan was corrupt and Mumba has committed political suicide by defending him! He should be distancing himself and the MMD party from these people, otherwise the CORRUPT PARTY TAG is going to get heavier! Anyway birds of the same feathers stick together, you are all plunders.

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  64. Ba Mumba, Ba Mumba – seems to be quite a bitter man – him of all people should no better, his task should be to pray for those in leadership, whether he likes it or not, they are in these positions by God – and you can debate this, but it is biblical – why ba Mumba is constantly finding fault leaves much to be desired – he should be spending time in his prayer closet and not before the media – it is a shame that he is doing what he is doing – his intentions are questionable – self gain? just saying

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  65. as for some on this blog who seem to revel in the notion that ba Sata is sick – even if it were so, is this something you rejoice over??? If sickness were something one bought at the store, do you think that anyone would buy? It is plain MEAN and uncalled for to make fun of one that is or may be sick.
    Thank God you are in good health – but do not forget, that your days are numbered and you do not need to be sick to kick the bucket – think abt it. Grow up and separate politics from private matters of people – atase

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