relationship walking into the court room while covering his face
Amnesty International has demanded for the immediate release of James Mwape and Philip Mubiana the two men of Kapiri accused of having sex “against the order of nature” under Section 155 of Zambia’s Penal Code.
Amnesty International Zambia Researcher Simeon Mwanza says the continued incarceration of the two men is an abuse of human rights and reflects badly on the country’s justice system to the international world.
Mr. Mwanza said his organization considers the continued incarceration of the duo who deny the accusations is an affront to all who believe in fundamental human rights, equality and non-discrimination hence the two should be released immediately.
He said the duo have already spent over a year in jail after their application for bail was denied in may last year something he said reflects badly on the country’s justice system.
Mr. Mwanza also said people should not be locked up on the basis of their sexual orientation as it is a clear breach of international law and justice.
“These men have already spent over a year in prison having been denied bail in a case where they are accused of something that should not be a crime. Locking up people on the basis of their real or perceived sexual orientation is reprehensible and a clear breach of international law and justice”
And Amnesty international has called on government to fulfill its obligation in protecting all human rights respect and protect all human rights and end the persecution of individuals on the basis of their real or perceived sexual orientation or gender identity.
“Amid a growing climate of fear in Zambia, Amnesty International is calling on the authorities to fulfill their obligations to respect and protect all human rights and end the persecution of individuals on the basis of their real or perceived sexual orientation or gender identity.
We are worried about the shrinking space for human rights in Zambia under the current administration. Fundamental freedoms have increasingly come under attack with political opponents, civil society and sexual minorities being systematically suppressed,” said Mr. Mwanza.
The duo who face up to 14 years in prison if found guilty were first arrested on 25th April 2013 before being released on bail on 2nd May but re-arrested 6th May 2013 and have been in jail ever since.
The international human rights organization has also condemned the examinations done on the two men describing them as forms of torture.
“They were arrested again on 6 May and subjected to forcible anal examinations by government doctors to “prove” their involvement in sexual activity. These examinations are tantamount to torture,” added Mr. Mwanza.
Amnesty should go and screw themselves!
Would Jesus have thrown them in jail ?
If the law says, for their crime, they should go to jail, then jail it is. it does not matter what jesus would do. Ask the so called jews about jesus. Ifwe tupepa ingombe ilede, that is our God. So long as it is a lwa, you can not circumvent it just because so white man says dont do it. Let them also remove the law of polygamy in the USA/EU, so that those who want to have more than one wife/husband can do so. but we dont impose this on them. White supremacy is a problem. what makes them think that we should follow their laws and ways of life. Twakana. If they are serious, let them advocate to have the homosexual law removed or repealed, but not now when it is a law. We must follow the law.
The Bible mentions homosexual behavior and it clearly condemns it. The issue is precisely whether that Biblical judgment is correct. The Bible sanctioned slavery as well, and nowhere attacked it as unjust. Are we prepared to argue today that slavery is biblically justified?
Jesus would treat these homosexual men the same way he treated the woman caught in adultery – ‘Neither do I condemn you go and sin no more’. ..Release those men! There are people plundering the nation and placing unborn Zambians in debt and they are walking free.Release those boys it’s against their basic human right.
Imwe these young men are still i jail sure?
It is sad that Zambians can’t see their own injustice, it has to be pointed out by foreigners.
No wonder Africa is shaped like a question mark.
Many say that being homosexual is unnatural and wrong.Then the question is who defined what is right and what is wrong ? Who defined what is natural and what is not ? You say it’s wrong but how can loving someone be wrong ? Who are you to declare what kinds of love are wrong ?
Release them! live and let live! It’s up to them if they want to kick their back doors in. It’s how they have decided to live their lives.
Ha ha ha ati no wonder Africa is shaped like a question mark.Nice one ba Nubian.
Nubian iwe, dont bring those negative aspects that have been fed into your brain by these white imperialists here? Why do you always find negativity in us as africans (alkebulanians)? Dont play into the mind control of the whites. Which question mark. when the so called free world is busy killing arabs in the middle east, africans through self made diseases and then injecting them with poison as a cure. iwe tekanya.umusungu temunobe!!! He is after you if you dont know. I asked earlier, when did we as africans ever impose some of our cultural practices on them. First of all, did these boys break a known law in zambia. If the answer is yes, why then should they be freed? Law is law, whether right or wrong. its a law.instead amnesty should fight to repeal the homosexuality law!!!!!!
“When in Rome do what the Romans do”. When in Zambia do what is legally, culturally, religiously and traditionally accepted. Zambia is not USA or Britain or Europe. Just follow the laws of Zambia. Amnesty International is not there to override Zambia’s laws.
Romeo and Juliet! They will one day be free.
I second this.Release them.They never harmed anybody.I just hate people who wants to use their own lifestyle as a yardstick to measure others.If these boys like inserting their organs in the sewer system let them be it is their choice and it doesn`t affect any other person life.Why should you make what other two consenting adults do your business ?
I thought they were released.
So what kind of prisoners did Ba Sata pardon?
@Nostradamuns…Seems like ba Sata released the wrong chaps.It is not fair for him to release rapists,murderers,paedophiles and other characters that have caused harm,hurt,sleepless night and anguish to other people while these two gentlemen who never caused harm to anybody keep languishing in jail.
No place for FAGGOTS in Zambia, iwe Mwanza. Twala ubupuba ukooo!
We have plenty room for them.I would rather we got rid of plunderers.
What exactly is their crime? Some heterosexuals enter their partners from behind. Do you arrest them? What a country?
What faggots? Whatever happened to proper decorum? Didn’t you learn something from your mother’s knee? Bigotry and sweeping generalisations are not part of our culture….
Let them go.Is it your behind they used to pleasure themselves?
Tell the whites, that if they want to come and mine in zambia, we also impose our tradition that men can if they want, have more than one wife and that those hillbillies in mid-south USA should be allowed to practice polygamy. Let them release Warren Jeffs.
Bamutomba pamunyelo!! get out of Zambia!!!!!!!!
Research shows that those who are overtly anti-gay are actually gay themselves and are using their big mouths as a cover!
Some men in heterosexual relations are gay and they are getting it with or without your permission.
You are not God and don’t fight on his behalf you selective moralists. Panyo panu mwanvwa?
There are other important issues touching many lives of Zambians this Mwanza should be taliking about. But I’m not suprised because he has a salary to earn by issuing such statements. I do not imagine that one day my son or grand son should bring another man that they are getting married.
We have told chaps like Mwanza several times that this is against our culture and beliefs just like having more than one wife is an offence in your American sponsors. Go to America or UK and marry two wives and see how you will be locked up and see if your Armnest will protect you. Please you are free to migrate to countries where such practices are allowed NOT PA ” Z”. WAILASHA.
What do you do if your child comes home one day and announces he or she is homosexual? Can you love him less ? Can his or her sexua-lity define your relationship? You need to ask yourself this,is your parent-child relationship based on unconditional love or sexual orientation ?
Saulosi, that’s the reason why we don’t want human evils (masquerading as human rights)in Zambia.One day my friend you are going to wake up to a rude shock only to hear your wife filing divorce papers saying that she is a lesbian.Mr Mwanza, not everything your pay master approves should make you close your eyes and brain and you call it international law . Don’t be an urgent of human evils in our country, find something else to do my brother than wasting your brain on human evils.
@From The Pulpit
If that happens then it would be just too unfortunate.But again if it happened i wouldn`t be too surprised because humans are just too unpredictable at times due to their physiological make-up.It is just a pity that people like you have chosen to ignore other evils happening in our society and instead decided to single out homosexuality as the greatest sin.Last time i checked there was nothing like a lower sin.Sin is sin and no amount of sugar coating will change that.Why have you decided to victimize these marginalized group of individuals while ignoring all the rapists,murderers and plunderers in your midst ?
@Saulosi telling my child to STOP ASS ****ING does not mean I do not love them.Why **** ASSES when Pussy is everywhere in abundance
I know that homosexuality is alien to an African, so is Christianity or Islam. All these are alien cultural practices, release these men and teach them real African culture. In Africa we used to worship trees, animals, rivers, harvest. That is real Africa. Teach them hunting skills and fruit gathering. Real Africa!
You started of okay until you messed up at the end…you have no idea how great we were as a people. ..absolutely no idea.
AMNESTY International you can go to hell, This duo deserves life imprisonment if not death by hanging in public at the new stadium. Amnesty take your human rights to Obama and David Cameron where the gays can **** each other in there own country. We Africans have are god fearing people and we our own good values. Go to hell and stop meddling in Zambian affairs as we are a sovereign state.
Go to hell Amnesty ,take your human rights to Europe and America. We Africans have deep religious cultures. where was your human rights when Bush and Blair were killing humans in their thousands in Iraq and Afghanistan. Just burger off Zambia is an Independent country and we don’t need you how to govern our country. These 2 needed death sentances
While I understand the deep ‘religious’ feelings that Africans may have towards homosexuality, I wonder if they would stone to death Michael Sata, Dan Pule, Michael Kaingu for committing adultery, so the Bible says, one man one wife and any sex outside this is adultery. Pick and choose Christianity has no place in the world. Sentence them to death and please do that to Kaingu.
very stuupiid example.
Why do organizations formed in the west spread to Africa and are able to influence and dictate the life and values of Africans? While organizations formed in Africa do not have any influence on the west and do not dictate the life and values of westerners!!! Why this one way traffic??
Its because they have money and power to even arrest a president of a poor and weak country with unpatriotic citizenry. If by chance we became economically strong like china, they would not dictate anything to us.
BECAUSE YOU AFRICANS ALWAYS FEEL INFERIOR TO WHITES CONSCIOUSLY OR UN CONSCIOUSLY. WE DISREGARD OUR RICH CULTURES IN PREFERENCE FOR JUST THEIR LIFE-STYLE.
ba Amnesty, why deny them their right to enjoy uninterrupted access to their sick, perveted annal pleasures? let them rot in jail with their fellow FAG goats. these stinking pieces of slime are lower than dogs and pigs kapoli ba sh!!t!
Until we inspect some of your wives butts for sexual activity, shut your mouths! You also do it.
The law of the land must prevail. Do not use nice phrases like sexual orientation just to convince people when something wrong has been done. Those guys should be taken to a mental hospital after serving jail time because they are mentally sick.
Amnesty, look into this sick gay blogger, dudelove as well. you need to fight for his right to go to jail where his kind thrive on each other’s stinking Hass Holes (HH). the bagger is a bigoted bantustan off spring of (HH) with faggot tendencies. Fight for his arrest this piece of swiine.
THERE HAS ALWAYS BEEN A QUESTION OF WHAT IS WORSE THAN THE OTHER BETWEEN THE FOLLOWING 2 (THOSE ARE BAD BUT WHAT IS WORSE THAN THE OTHER): RELEASING A CRIMINAL AND JAILING AN INNOCENT PERSON BOTH ON TECHNICAL GROUNDS? WE CONCLUDED THAT, IF YOU JAIL AN INNOCENT PERSON, YOU ARE NOT REFORMING ANYTHING IN HIM AND WILL NOT REPENT AT ALL BUT IF YOU RELEASE A CRIMINAL THEN IT IS MOST LIKELY THAT HE WILL PERPETUATE THE ACT AND PROBABLY NOT ON THE SAME PERSON BUT ON A RELATIVE TO THE SYMPATHISER! DO NOT AT ALL LOOK AT INDIVIDUALS CONCERNED BUT ON THE CRIME COMMITTED. WHAT DOES THE LAW SAY ABOUT WHAT IS ALLEGED TO HAVE BEEN COMMITTED? AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL WILL ALWAYS FIGHT EVEN FOR THE RELEASE OF CRIMINALS. THEY ARE QUIET ON A SUDANESE KILLED FOR CHANGING HER RELIGION FROM A MOSLEM TO A CHRISTIAN!
APOLOGIES: I MEANT “BOTH” AND NOT “THOSE”! PROBLEM OF WRITING ENGLISH WHILE THINKING IN YOUR LOCAL LANGUAGE – MY GOODNESS ME!
What is African culture? Africans walked naked before the arrival of Europeans. Photos are there for everyone to see. Our chiefs were homosexuals. In fact, the behavior of our girls could be termed lesbians. They used to go in the bush to play with their clitoris.
Naked in who’s eyes?
Naked in whose eyes?
Amnest just take a simple count of the reaction on the bloggers who have responded to this nonses of men shagging each other.
28 out of 30 are against this act. Let us assume we went to vote in the constitution and voted in this manner, against your shaggist what will your amanest do?
Saulos if my son behaved in that manner the law would deal with him like the way they have done with these two stupid chaps. So don’t ask me what I will do if one day my son declared himself a gay because the law would deal with him and I would not sympathise with him.
Your question Saulos is like asking me what I would do if my son killed a person and was caught stealing. The laws are there to deal with such cases. It is not me. I need to teach my children how to avoid such problems.
AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL WILL ALWAYS FIGHT EVEN FOR THE RELEASE OF CRIMINALS. THEY ARE QUIET ON A SUDANESE KILLED FOR CHANGING HER RELIGION FROM A MOSLEM TO A CHRISTIAN!
From what I know several American organizations are talking about this case. Moreover, the woman is not yet killed. She just gave birth recently while in jail.
CAN YOU PLEASE QUOTE EXACTLY WHAT AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL HAS SAID ON THIS ISSUE IF YOU CAN? AND FOR GOODNESS’ SAKE WHY SHOULD IT BE ONLY AN “AMERICAN” ORGANISATION THAT SHOULD SAY SOMETHING FOR EVERYONE TO SAY, YES SOMEONE HAS NOW SAID SOMETHING ABOUT IT WHEN OUR OWN CONTRIBUTOR IN “SAULOSI” ABOVE AND SEVERAL OTHER ZAMBIANS HAVE APPEALED FOR THEIR RELEASE AND YOU CANNOT FIND A REASON TO MENTION THEM? WHITE OR MUZUNGU IS REALLY BEAUTIFUL INDEED! I CAN UNDERSTAND AND PLEASE CONTINUE WITH YOUR WAY OF DEALING WITH ISSUES.
Amnesty are not quiet over the Meriam Ibrahim issue – do your research and don’t display your ignorance on public platforms. Go to their page and you will see. Further, most of you uneducated morons keep on saying its the law, but the law is clear that individuals should be released on bail until they are convicted by a Competent Court unless in cases of murder, treason and the stupid Chiluba introduced ‘motor vehicle’ theft etc. These men have not yet been convicted and yet they have been detained for over a year in a maximum remand facility! Is that the law? You are such an ignoramus id*ot!
The old man should have pardoned these two gentlemen on Freedom day. Our laws need a review. ..we have bigger problems than homosexuality like underage pregnancies in schools, high number of under age drunkenness especially among girls, adultery, corruption via misappropriation and misapplication of taxpayer’s funds, an absentee sick president who is on taxpayer’s payroll for doing absolutely nothing, a group of highly incompetent empty tins we call ministers, filthy garbage on every street corner etc.
Wake up people…. African politicians will always use the gay card to distract the docile masses.
Wake up!!
Let Amnesty “Immorality” airlift these vile men and take them to a Sodomising country and keep them there.
The selfsame “sodomising countries” you are continuously begging from… to supplement your poorly run economy.
In countries where this obscene and unnatural practice has been legalised the masses were not consulted in a referendum. It has been coerced and forced upon them by some evil forces. It’s clear the majority of earth’s people object to being forced to accept that the anus is a sex organ. If the perverts wants to soil their organs in sewage, by all means let them do it in privacy, but don’t allow them to market and propagate their filth as an acceptable way of life. It isn’t and will never be.
Negro please… Just demand for a new constitution. Did you know that the law to stiffen this ‘crime’ was amended in 2005 without a national referendum? And pray how does what one do with their own body a national issue??? Kwena ba Zed mwalikwata inshita!
That is my worry in the new draft constitution. Too much human right issues and gay rights will creep in the name of human rights
Are they not human beings? Please tell us how your life going to affected if we have an inclusive constitution ….don’t they pay tax? I work with gay colleagues does that affect me? Nope
Wake up and focus on your own personal issues.
DURING THE RUN UP TO THE 2011 ELECTIONS PRESIDENT SATA WAS ACCUSED OF PLANNING TO ALLOW HOMOSEXUALITY IN THE COUNTRY ONCE IN POWER – NOTHING CLOSE TO IT HAS HAPPENED. PRESIDENT SATA ALLOWS EXISTING LAWS TO BE APPLIED ON SUCH CASES, THE SAME PEOPLE ARE UP IN ARMS QUESTIONING THE PRESIDENT’S WISDOM ON WHY HE HAS NOT RELEASED THESE TWO GUYS SO THAT THEY CAN GO AND CONTINUE WITH THE SAME ACT WHICH WOULD “EFFECTIVELY LEGALISE HOMOSEXUALITY”! JUST WHAT IS WRONG WITH US ZAMBIANS? DO WE SIT DOWN AND THINK OF THE IMPLICATIONS OF THE STATUTES THAT WE PUT IN PLACE? TODAY IT IS THE PUBLIC ORDER ACT, TOMORROW IT IS THE CONSTITUTION, THE FOLLOWING DAY IT WILL BE THE NGO ACT, THINGS THAT WE SAME ZAMBIANS AGREED TO BEFORE THEY BECAME LAWS! DO WE DO THESE THINGS WITH SOME PEOPLE WE ATRGET IN OUR MINDS?…
APOLOGIES: FIRST WORD IN LAST SENTENCE SHOULD BE :TARGET” PLEASE
It’ s sad to see what the American liberals will shove down our throats, pleas vite the Republicans back.
Really explain more?
i dont think ngamwalifyalwa if your parents were like those mentally redarded maggots?so iwe stanyoko bwela mucalo naupena stupid
I’m one not to judge but the guy is covering his face,if he is so proud of what he is why not face the world,so what does that tell us?
So you have never sinned and been ashamed afterwards?
Amnesty int’l should not encourage people to hero worship each other’s penises. I was born of a man and woman and so did the 6,999,999,999 people, unless this changes Amnesty can go hang.
Iwe lipkwa can u compare what women were taught as part of traditional preparation for marriage in most african cultures to homosexuality!grow up,mxxxxm
Now I am all for the state staying out of the private lives of citizens.
However, at the same time, I woulnd’t put it past ‘Amnesty International’ that they are paying attention all of a sudden, because people are talking about the Windfall Tax.
When the New Labour government wanted to throw President Mugabe out of office in 1997 (Soni Rajan, ‘Dinner With Mugabe’ by Heidi Holland), two years later President Mugabe was accosted by Peter Thatchell, the boyfriend of Minister Peter Hain. It was only after that, that legally speaking the constitution was rather clumsily adjusted to ban homosexuality.
Amnesty International itself has been populated by US State Department hawks like David Januzzi and Suzanne Nossel.
Roughly the same happened with President Putin in Russia. All of a sudden, The Family/The Fellowship (see “C-Street” by Jeff Sharlet) introduced draconian anti-gay laws, the same way they did in Uganda (David Bahati is the Chairman of the Uganda Parliamentary Fellowship, and has frequent contact with Jim Inhofe, John Ashcroft, Scott Lively) and Kansas (the Religious Freedom Program wrote the language, and had former Watergate Burglar Chuck Colson on it’s board of advisers).
All I am saying, is – don’t dismiss the possibility that this is all politics.
The laws against gay acts are the same in all former British colonies, and have been on the books since at least the 1950s. So why all the publicity now?
There is a pattern of using homosexuality to drive a wedge between the country in question and the various Democratic party demographics, in order to stop people from coordinating their efforts.
Zimbabwe, Uganda, Russia, Kansas.
Viva amnesty. Viva gay rights in Zambia
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