Tuesday, June 18, 2024

Electoral Division is democratic and healthy

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The five presidential candidates during the live radio and television debate at Mulungushi International Conference centre
The five presidential candidates during the live radio and television debate at Mulungushi International Conference centre

Fellow Zambians,

Electoral division is both democratic and healthy for sane human society. We should all celebrate our opportunity and right to vote a candidate of our choice.

The frequency of elections in Zambia should provide us an accelerated democratic growth. We should see this positive coming out of our losses and sorrow because of the demise, first of all, of the late President of the Republic of Zambia, Dr Levy P Mwanawasa, SC, MHSRIP, and then that of His Excellency, the late Mr Michael C Sata, MHSRIP.

Electoral Division must be understood to be temporarily. When the final vote has been cast, and results are announced, as in previous years since independence in 1964, we must all gravitate towards one another in national unity in the spirit of nationhood, namely, “One Zambia, One Nation” as we all “Stand and sing of Zambia”, politically and democratically “Proud and free”.

Let us return to unity after the electoral division of 2014/2015, as a “Land of joy and unity, and all the positives and responsibilities citizenship and family call for.

We look forward to the announcement of the elected person, and can’t wait to celebrate our completeness as people with a leader in the Presidency.

Lastly, my sincere gratitudes go to all participating Presidential candidates and to the Acting Republican President, Dr Guy Scott.

The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ rest upon Zambia and its people. Amen.

By Joseph Tembo

67 COMMENTS

  1. 2020 Vision is Emmanuel Mwamba paid by PF specifically to issue bogus statements on this website. Even his arguments and statement have no logic and substance just like Lungu – empty tins think alike

    • Your statement has little to do with the article at hand.Stop crying and give up
      Much as I hate PF they will win anyway

      Thanks
      BB2014

    • I advise my dear brother HH to calm down. Sadly he is needlessly yielding to emotions and pressure. Such is committing suicide against oneself. Please stop it immediately before you fully entangle yourself. Zambians and their peace are unforgiving if you threaten it. Respect the the process and ballot verdict with patience. Please sober up because if God says yes, no one can stop it. The risks of resorting to emotions are too costly to imagine please do not be misled. emulate your dear brother EL for his patience and calmness under extreme pressure.Dipak Patel will run away again to Canada. He is notorious for doing that every-time he triggers fire. You ask Uncle VJ and Dr. Kaunda. Don’t say my brother you didn’t tell me. You have waited for 2 days, surely you can wait for few hours

    • PF minions how do you explain this coincidence in Kabombo constituency.

      Lukulu east
      PF1, 452
      UPND 6,196

      9. Lukulu west
      PF 1,452
      UPND 6,196

      Why should two constituencies have the same number of votes for two different candidates?

      Bahati PF 7163 UPND 874
      Lukulu West UPND 7163 PF 876

      Like I said , PF ‘s rigging machine is in a panic and are failing to cleverly temper with the results. Simple arithmetic is eluding them.

      In N/Western, Western and Southern , there is absolutely no way PF can beat UPND by a huge margin.

      Lungu failed to reach a thousand in all these constituencies thats why people in Kabombo are now rioting.

      If ECZ will seriously investigate this scum, HH will win by small margin. This explains why ZAF refused to allow UPND helicopters from visiting…

    • It is over my friend; in 5 minutes Edgar C. Lungu will be declared 6th President. The army chiefs are at his house and are heading to meet Guy Scott at Government House so that they emerge together!

    • @Mushota. I think you little to do with our nation and I have watched some of comments. I presume you are an intellect as you always self proclaim be, how could support the late MCS when it was clear that his actions were and are still detrimental to the Zambian economy and society. Explain this Mushota:
      1. Promising to give a constitution in 90 days and 3 years later we are still waiting in spite of having the numbers in parliament?
      2. Increase your salary 3 times when the average hardworking Zambian struggles to sustain his family?
      3. Hire relatives and incompetent people in run the nation affairs?
      4. You induce by-elections that cost 10 billion or 10 million re-based but there is no medicine in hospitals?
      These are the people 2020 Vision is fully supporting

    • Wanzelu you are dull!

      You can see that clearly the result you have is wrong. Go back and get the correct results then open your mouth. We have seen the correct results and those with ECZ, stop fabricating nonsense

    • Kabompo East 826 6735
      Nalikwanda 445 4591
      Chembe 2597 354
      Itezhi Tezhi 788 7069
      Lubansenshi 5216 939
      Chinsali Central 8622 381
      Kalomo Central 662 17961
      Kwacha 14940 4027
      Mkushi North 4153 2577
      Mwansabombwe 4548 421
      Sinda 2509 3142
      Gwembe 249 10960
      Mansa Central 10631 1278
      Sinazongwe 1103 17942
      Nakonde 6693 1370
      Chasefu 5001 1974
      Milanzi 3441 1471
      Lupososhi 7633 1147
      Bwana Mkubwa 11294 3038
      Kabompo West 520 6307
      Mkushi South 2096 1086
      Lufwanyama 2270 3457
      Luanshya 9765 3145
      Siavonga 1447 15474
      Bahati 7163 874
      Lukulu West 7163 876
      Chavuma 792 4898
      Serenje 3940 839
      Luampa 1449 5251
      Mpulungu 8151 2015
      Mulobezi 1069 3517
      Petauke Central 10346 1202
      Dundumwezi 83 14181
      Mangango 1137 3792
      Malole 13466 1873

    • @pg

      Don’t just yap without researching extensively. ECZ has acknowledged the concerns UPND has raised this morning and has decided to remove the results update pending corrections after discovering those anomalies.

      I have just looked at the ECZ site the results you are on about are not there at all.

      Reliable sources have informed me that results will be delayed further until most anomalies.

    • YES IT IS TRUE! THESE THIEVES DON’T WANT TO LET GO OF POWER EVEN WHEN THE ZAMBIAN PEOPLE HAVE REJECTED THEM. DON’T IMPOSE YOURSELVES ON US, WE HAVE REJECTED YOU, WE DON’T WANT YOU! WE SHALL FIGHT IF LUNGU IS DECLARED WINNER. WAR! WE ARE JUST WAITING FOR FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT.

    • It gets worse. Eastern province results have also been cooked big time. I think even those in PF strong hold have also been cooked.
      Just look at this.

      In all these places, below PF got 4673, and 4873, but UPND got 1750 in all 6 constituencies. How possible is that? Such occurrences are just near impossible.
      Chipata central , Chipangali Kasenengwa, Mkaika, Luangeni, and Malambo.

      The PF ‘s rigging machine has been exposed big time.

      I said it before that PF ‘s rigging will be in disarray.

      It seems the trend is the same across the country.

      Shame on PF.

    • THE ELECTORAL DIVISION HAS BEEN CAUSED BY POLITICIANS, IN PARTICULAR HH, HIS LEGACY HAS BEEN “DIVIDING THIS NATION” SO FAR. PEOPLE ARE ALRIGHT BUT HH PLANTED THIS IDEA IN THEIR HEADS.

    • Gentlemen Mambilima’s job is to go through results and confirm that’s what has come from polling centres. No complaints were raised at the centres and all observers including international and UPND accepted and the results have been transmitted.

      It means Mambilima’s job is simply to announce what she and her team tally. Chapwa. Beyond that only supreme Court can give reprieve!!

      And why are ECZ agents leaking official documents online? Those documents are open for inspection and dispute, but not cowardly excitement of people by sending them online claiming no political parties signed so it’s illegal. Observers are not obliged at all to even sign but if they don’t dispute it stands

    • what do you call this foolishness?How do you have 4 constituencies in Eastern province having similar results?
      Bahati constituency
      Edgar Lungu 7163
      Hakainde Hichilema 874

      Lukulu West constituency
      Hakainde Hichilema 7163
      Edgar Lungu 876.

      This is pure manipulation in the hope of rigging.
      RESPECT THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE .STOP MANIPULATIONS PLEASE.GOD IS WATCHING!

    • In Chawama, lungu got 13 459 but a 3 has been changed to an 8 making the result 18459 thats increasing Lungu ‘s votes by 5000.

      chipata central, the figure has also been altered from 4673 to 10833 thats adding over 5000 votes for lungu also.

      This trend has been uncovered by TIZ and independent monitors across the country.

      UPND are watching the results carefully.

      PF ‘s rigging schemes have been exposed. UPND may call for fresh elections some of these areas.

      Lady Mambilima is a tight corner and she is yielding to PF ‘s pressure to announce the results before checking and correcting all the anomalies.

      Viva HH.

    • True…Electoral divisions are healthy and democratic as long as they are predicated on principled democratic norms designed to advance humans and society.

      The current divisions have no democratic basis as they based on TRIBE…they are divisive and a recipe for anarchy and civil strife. They are causing a reversal of unity gains.

      Why cant upnd and its leadership repudiate and condemn tribal and regional politics with the same vigor and ferocity they do on violence if allegedly done by PF?..because it puts them in a southern comfort.

      Almost all tongas regardless of education and status in society are all upnd… strangely they see nothing wrong with that!

      I am glad Zambians have rejected them and will do so next year if upnd doesn’t changes its tribal politics

    • @Wise Commentator: You have started already, imwe ba UPND you are indeed slow to learn. Look, it is most likely you have lost this election already and that is despite campaigning throughout the three years PF has been in govt. Not withstanding the kind and amount of insults you heaped on late Sata. Yet it seems like you haven’t learned anything from what has just happened. Now, it is again at full speed with the same uncouth behavior towards Edgar Lungu. I mean, what does insults and negativity gained UPND?

      Soon the tag of “uncultured bunch of losers” may stick just like the “tribal” tag has. Team your tongues if you want to be respected back. You might even win a few more hearts going into next elections. Even in defeat I am sure you can be respectful; or at least try!

    • @wanzelu: Now you notice discrepancies when yesterday you did NOT seem to mind when BIG & HUMONGOUS tallies and unusually high turnout numbers were rolling in from Southern province. Today you want to nitpick the results that favor your opponents!?

      C’mon guys, you are now sounding like a broken record. Why can’t you just lose with a bit of class and in dignity. This election is not the end of the world!!!

    • BREAKING: TALLY OF PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS RESULTS FROM 125 CONSTITUENCIES AS ANNOUNCED BY ECZ
      PF 701,089
      UPND 674,185.

      Go to thepostfacebook for latest results.

      Peace

    • @@@Gen

      Say you, “Almost all tongas regardless of education and status in society are all upnd… strangely they see nothing wrong with that!”

      Say I, Almost all non-Indigenous Zambians regardless of education and status in society are UPND sympathizers….evidently they see nothing wrong with that!

      I say to you, Almost all non-Tongas regardless of education and status in society are anti-Tonga (not UPND)….strangely they (especially you Gen) see nothing wrong with that!

      See, this tribal card cannot be waved in on direction only. Point is, it’s played out. Only retrogressive minded rasklaats think there is something to it!

  2. I advise my dear brother HH to calm down. Sadly he is needlessly yielding to emotions and pressure. Such is committing suicide against oneself. Please stop it immediately before you fully entangle yourself. Zambians and their peace are unforgiving if you threaten it. Respect the the process and ballot verdict with patience. Please sober up because if God says yes, no one can stop it. The risks of resorting to emotions are too costly to imagine please do not be misled. emulate your dear brother EL for his patience and calmness under extreme pressure.

    Dipak Patel will run away again to Canada. He is notorious for doing that every-time he triggers fire. You ask Uncle VJ and Dr. Kaunda. Don’t say my brother you didn’t tell me. You have waited for 2 days, surely you can wait for few…

    • EDGAR IS PATIENT BECAUSE HE FULLY KNOWS IT THAT HE DOESN’T DESERVE IT! HE HAS STOLEN A LOT OF VOTES BY USING HIS CROOKED BOYS WHO FABRICATED INFLATED FIGURES FOR HIM RIGHT AT ECZ DATA CENTER! LUNGU IS A THIEF AND A CROOK. LUNGU IS ONLY FIT TO BE MY GARDEN BOY. HH DESERVES TO RULE OUR COUNTRY BECAUSE IT IS ONLY HH WHO CAN MOVE ZAMBIA FORWARD. MOREOVER, POWER SHOULD BE SHIFTED TO OTHER NEW HANDS. DON’T ALLOW POWER TO REMAIN IN SAME HANDS, OR ELSE THESE GLUTTONS STARTED ABUSING IT, THE WAY PF HAS BEEN ABUSING IT SINCE 2011.

  3. This country is polarised across race. There is no trust whatsoever among Zambians of different tribes. The problem is that there certain tribes that think they are more superior than others. And this is a main cause of war and strife in Africa. To hit the nail on the head, it’s about time bembas started accepting and respecting other tribes and accept that other people can also rule this country. What am I saying? HH is winning this election but the PF is doing all it can to manipulate and still these election. Its not fair. To start a war easy. To stop it is near to impossible.

    • Am not Bemba, but I hate the blatant tribalism exhibited by some Tongas. Try working under one and you will understand what I mean

    • There are a lot of people settled in the villages(not in central districts) in Northern province who are not from that region. This tells YOU that people from Northern province ARE NOT tribal as you insinuate. But how many people ( if any) from Northern province are settled in the villages in Southern or Western province.? Lets be honest with each ourselves before making accusations. Being CONFIDENT is no tribalism……Bembas just speak their minds and are open, They do not pretend

    • U pocupine since wen lungu became a bemba? Since wen mwanawasa (MHSRIP) became a bemba? How many bembas stood in ths election who hav lost to a stupi.d HH in bemba speaking areas? Shame shame wether HH wins I don’t care U tongas ar bad devil that’s wat u ar.HH is winning u wil see how bembas or eastherner will suffer interms of developments.

    • @ ?MM Le Grand Patron

      Thank you! BUT you are being too respectful by calling him a ‘punk’. English is inadequate when it comes to dealing with some species (non-human) that reside in Zambia masquerading as human beings.

      @ ?Mpika Man

      When did you ever go to a village in the provinces you have mentioned? BEMBAS have invaded Barotse Flood Plain and for the first time the Barotse people are having to deal with Bembas using explosives to catch fish even in the Zambezi river. That’s why NONE of the northern provinces has any fish stock in their waters to talk about because of the wanton behaviour of this tribe there….and now they are destroying resources everywhere they are going in Zambia. Learn to be civilised..! It’s only you that the rest of us keep talking about. It’s…

  4. What we really need is an educated public that can make informed decisions and choose the best candidate who will bring about real development. Politics of doing things at last minute should come to an end. This our country if we do not develop it who will? We cannot continue to rely on foreign investors who abuse and use our people and resources. What are our children going to have? We might end in situation where the whole nation will be run by foreign entity as these PF thugs have sold our country. We need a better Zambia. Any candidate among the top 4 could serve Zambian better than Lungu

    • HH had worked extremely hard on educating the public but at the end of the day people chose to ignore the message and vote as they will. Feel sorry for the disadvantaged because they suffer most in poor governance.

      HH truly deserves the presidency of the country because of his commitment and hardwork.

    • Bembas cannot settle anyway in zambia because they have difficulties learning other people’s tribes. This is the main reason why they say other tribes are tribal. Let them learn other tribes and their insecurities shall be overcome. This is why slave masters said that the best way to keep information from a black person is by putting it in a book and the same applies to Bembas, all the other tribes have learnt bemba and can easily mingle with you but the same cannot be said about you.In war they say know your enemy if you want to defeat them.

  5. Please! We have spend substantial resources to hold these election instead of developing our infrastructure and you call this healthy democracy? They get sick the go to South Africa or UK! Even if EL wins in two year time we will still in be the same position. This was the right time to change and avoid the failure of PF to continue. PF members what development has you Government done in the last 3 year? Give me 4 things.

  6. HH trying to intimidate Judge Mambilima? Ask RB then you will know how principled this gallant lady is. Ask any counsel that appeared before her or indeed in her chambers then you will know who she is there is no room for manipulation around this lady. Ask those sorry excuse of leader like Kapata and Luo…..

  7. Secondly PF came to power 3 year ago? What’s it’s vision? They tell you Sata left them with a vision, but 3 year has past you don’t have any idea about the vision. I wish Zambian could open there eyes!

    • And Zambians wish you could open yours. There should be something wrong if you are always getting it wrong and you are a minority.
      But good courage for admitting that Edgar Lungu has won, well, indirectly though!

    • @@@Patriot

      I agree with you 100%
      If Sata left them with a vision, why not just parrot it out? It should have been that easy, right?

  8. Congratulations to the new Head of State, Edgar C. Lungu who will be announced as 6th President of the Republic of Zambia by Justice Ireen Mambilima in just under 2 minutes. Tune in. It is all but over, not to mention, 30,000 votes have not been counted from Mafinga in Muchinga Province.

  9. Please enlighten that masses have started celebrating an HH victory in most parts of the capital. Electoral division is healthy, cheating or rigging is not, it can create anarchy & uncalled for divisions amongst the electorate. Let us be very vigilant to uphold the peace we enjoy, don’t take peace for granted. May the best candidate win, one who is able to take care of many rather than the elite few.

    • UNLESS YOU’RE BLIND BUT HH IS THE ONE WHO TRIED EVERYTHING TO RIG THESE ELECTIONS. CHECK SOUTHERN PROVINCE. NO WONDER ZAF STOPPED HIS HELIs TO FLY DURING VOTING..

    • @@John

      I repeat, you are the reason HH was advocating for free education. My friend, being the USA has never helped your ignorance, has it now? How can somebody who controls no part of the machinery, practically an outsider, rig the elections?

  10. In this world never exalt a human being to the position of Savior. Human beings are human beings. The one you put so much faith in will disappoint you.
    Just thank God for the choices He gives us at a particular time and when that person does well, appreciate him and praise him but never look at a person as your Savior. You will be disappointed.
    When PF ascended to power people called Sata a Savior and a few months down the line, Sata was Satan. Just some advice

    • you are right. another was welcomed by dancers at the airport and football fans threw oranges and bananas at him at independence stadium.

  11. wenzelu, which constituency in southern p won by Edgar plz i want to knw cos i saw the results on znbc last nite no wher lungu got even quarter of hh votes

    • WISE PEOPLE FROM SOUTHERN CAN NOT VOTE FOR A DRUNKARD AS PRESIDENT OF OUR BELOVED MOTHERLAND. CHOOSING A PRESIDENT IS A SACRED EXERCISE WHERE A LOT OF GOOD QUALITIES ARE CONSIDERED. YOU DON’T JUST PICK ANY HOW INCLUDING PICKING UP A DRUNKARD AND SHALLOW MINDED EDGAR LUNGU WHO DOESN’T EVEN HAVE THAT PHYSICAL STATURE BEFITTING A PRESIDENT. EDGAR IS FIT TO BE MY GARDEN BOY!

    • @Chanda

      Figures for Lungu have been cooked to look better. In all Western, N/Western and Southern,rural constituencies there is no where were Lungu got a thousand votes.

      Any way ECZ has accepted the anomalies and the iron lady is getting on top of things.

      Only under HH will ECZ be independent and have more powers.

      Results will be announced around 15:00hrs Zambian time.

  12. JOSEPH TEMBO, THE ONE ZAMBIA ONE NATION YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT HAS ALWAYS BEEN THEORETICAL IN ZAMBIA, SINCE KAUNDA ERA. ONLY THE BEMBAS AND THE NYANJAS HAVE BEEN EMPOWERED IN OUR COUNTRY EVER SINCE. BEMBAS AND NYANJAS ALWAYS HIJACK POWER, BLOCKING A TONGA OR LOZI OR KAONDE FROM POWER, AND YOU CALL THIS ONE ZAMBIA ONE NATION. ARE YOU OKEY? DO YOU KNOW THAT US AS TONGAS HAVE DEEP WOUND IN OUR HEARTS BECAUSE YOU GUYS HAVE TAKEN ALL THE JOBS FROM US, ALL THE POLITICAL POWER FROM US, AND YOU STILL EXPECT US BE REMAIN DOCILE AND SAY WE ARE ONE IN A ONE ZAMBIA ONE NATION. CHECK THE WHITE MANAGERIAL PUBLIC AND PRIVATE JOBS IN ZAMBIA AND FIND EITHER A BEMBA OR A NYANJA AS BOSS. THIS IS RUBBISH AND WE ARE HERE TO STOP IT! THAT IS WHY WE WANT HH TO EQUALIZE EVERYTHING IN OUR COUNTRY.

  13. The issue if tribal line of voting has been cemented by tribal line of appointment to higher political positions in government and foreign missions. It only make sense that other groups start to look from within their ranks and file for a leader. PF is all too tribal.

    • Voting on tribal lines is something that is inherent in all of us. what is wrong however is when others start looking down upon other tribes and condemning them for doing the same thing they themselves have done. other tribes see logs in others but forget that they too have logs in their eyes

  14. Sad the way look at things, it’s not true that all top jobs are only for Bembas & Chewas. Up until last week, for about 10 years, the Operations Manager for NWK, formerly Dunavant was a Tonga in Eastern Province. This is not just a one off, I can give many examples. If you would allow outsiders to come into your strongholds, allow them to invest, open businesses, allow them to marry your women, etc, you may be enlightened & see what truly One Zambia One Nation is. You can’t change the game of football if you are in the crowd, you have to be part of the team, either on the field or on the bench. One Zambia One Nation!

    • @Kalaluka: you must be a numbskull, an airhead. Dunavant is a private company. It is not a parastatal, civil service or a govt Dept. Even the Post has agreed that PFools have taken tribal discrimination and nepotism to an unprecedented level.

  15. 1. completed roads/Bridges and some under construction
    2. clinics and hospitals completed and some under construction
    3. Civil service salary enhancement and still to be more enhanced
    4. entrepreneurship among youth and continued liberalization of business
    5. Completed housing projects while others on course.
    6. You can add what you can see as other projects will soon roll out with the incoming new government reborn.

    • USELESS! IN LESS THAN 4 YEARS OF THIEVING PF RULE, THE COUNTRY HAS BEEN FORCED TO BORROW HEAVILY DUE TO THESE VISION-LESS PF LEADERS. MOST OF THIS MONEY BORROWED HAS BEEN SHARED AND POCKETED BY THESE GLUTTONS! ONLY SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY WAS USED FOR THESE SO-CALLED ROAD CONSTRUCTION WHICH IS EVEN SHODDY, THE ROADS WON’T EVEN LAST THREE YEARS, JUST TO APPEASE THE ZAMBIAN PEOPLE TO THINK THAT THIS GOVERNMENT IS WORKING. PF IS A BUNCH OF CON-MEN! ZAMBIANS SHOULD NOT ALLOW THEM TO CONTINUE RULING US ANYMORE! THIS MONTH SHOULD BE THEIR LAST MONTH. PLEASE MAMBILIMA DETECT ALL THE RIGGING CASES BY LUNGU’S TEAM IN THESE ELECTIONS SO THAT PF CAN BE GIVEN A BREAK IN RUNNING THIS NATION.

  16. In 1889, North Western Rhodesia and North Eastern Rhodesia protectorates were created under the provisions of the 1889 North Western and North Eastern Rhodesia Orders in Council.

    By the 1911 Northern Rhodesia Order in Council, the earlier Orders in Council were revoked and the two territories became one political unit under the name of Northern Rhodesia.

    On 18th May 1964, an agreement known as the Barotseland Agreement 1964, was entered into between the Government of the Republic of Zambia and the Litunga of Barotseland to retain the arrangements or status quo with regard to the land issue in the independent and unitary state of Zambia which was to be born on 24th October, 1964.

    The voting pattern has taken us back to pre 1911!!

  17. Kikiki UPND just accept defeat.U can’t win in province.The voting pattern in southern province is tribal.U’ll see in 2016.We’ll tell everyone to vote.I’ve never seen such selfish pipo like some leaders in UPND and it’s supporters.

    • Luapula,

      In 2016 all those who will be sick shall be taken on wheel chairs to vote. The UPND has told us how to vote. come 2016 all parts of Zambia will vote in numbers. Southern province has told us another lesson.

      Peace and Prosperity to Mother Zambia.

  18. The only country HH will rule is Barotseland.

    He cannot rule in a country called Zambia. Full stop.

    Its a painful fact.

    Those people wasting money funding HH campaigns are not wise investors. You might as well burry your money because investment should bear fruit. Perhaps you have got the fruit in the name of pain. Your money has been wasted, sad to say.

    I am afraid to say that the cost is sunk.

    You are in a quandary.

    Heaven is far. The ground is hard. where are you going to disappear to?

  19. kicks of a dying cow/bull.
    You forget it’s hh trying to interfere with the counting. Why don’t you ask yourself the question of hh panicking? Again go to Kitwe, Ndola Luanshya, Chingola, Mafukeni, and ask for who is mourning about hh’s loss there. Everybody is saying ‘HH ashininkisha ukuti money te kantu.” Ask GBM even the man of God Nevers….etc
    They will tell you that a Bemba naba mbuya wabo ni bokondana maningi.
    Get a life… it’s just a loss…not end of your life brother…

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