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It’s madness to expel us from the MMD-Nyangu

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MMD  Deputy  National secretary Chembe Nyangu
MMD Deputy National secretary Chembe Nyangu

Expelled MMD former Deputy National Secretary Chembe Nyangu has described as madness the move by the party’s National Executive Committee to expel him along with 17 other senior party officials.

The MMD National Executive Committee meeting resolved on Saturday to expel Mr Nyangu and 17 others including Members of Parliament for gross indiscipline after the endorsed and campaigned for other presidential candidates in the January 20 presidential election.

But Mr Nyangu said expelled the 18 is a sign of madness on the part of MMD President Dr Nevers Mumba.

He said there is no way a single individual in the name of Dr Mumba can expel all those senior members without following procedure.

‘This is just madness and rubbish. Dr Mumba can’t expel me because i was elected at the convention and i can only be removed by a convention of if i choose not to stand. As President, he has no powers to expel any member,’ Mr Nyangu said.

He said the MMD constitution does not give absolute power the President of the party.

‘He is now abrogating our party’s constitution at will and some of the members he is expelling have dragged the party to court and the court process is in motion and he is now showing contempt of court by this action,’ he said.

Mr Nyangu added, ‘as for me, am not even worried because that action does not amount to anything. It is just madness.’

38 COMMENTS

  1. This Nevers Mumba,Is he really a Pastor? I doubt if he even prays during a meal?Has he at any time ever knelt down to pray for these 18 enemies of his?I know he reads Lsk times please answer me.

    • Even you can do the same thing Nevers has done if you were in his shoes. Those Mps should leave and join the party of their choice. That kind of nonsense happens only in Africa. Have you ever heard a republican joining democratics because he doesn’t like the presidential candidate? What we have in Zambia is called politics of the belly. It does not matter whether senior member or not if he’s not respecting the party constitution he should be expelled.

    • No, it’s not madness. These fellows, even after elections they are pledging to keep campaigning for another party instead of working on rebuilding their party when they have the time now. They are the mad ones and should make a choice as to where their allegiance lies

    • @1.1 Adrian Mwelwa, you asked, Have you ever heard a republican joining democratics because he doesn’t like the presidential candidate?

      I presume you are schooled enough. Read the below citations:

      1). In 1998 Sen. Joe Lieberman a democrat crossed party lines and endorsing Republican Sen. John McCain for president while remaining a Democrat. ” what’s more important than party membership is the interest and well-being of the United States of America,” .”Let’s put the United States first again, and John McCain is the man as president who will help us do that,”

      2). A hardcore Republican Former Secretary of State General Colin Powell endorsed and voted for Barack Obama, citing the Democrat’s “ability to inspire” and the “inclusive nature of his campaign.”

    • Only a bad leader can tolerate the indiscipline of the so called senior members. I am yet to find a party as useless as MMD where its members will go to support other parties and still claim they are members of MMD. These members should know that in Africa – a party that loses election is almost dead and buried. It is not attractive, especially after being in power for 20 years. Though Nevers is a Pastor he can not perform miracles that can make MMD attractive. The members need to be together and build their own party. They all abandoned the party when they smelt money and jobs in the other parties. Some have never accepted Nevers after he beat them in the elections. So what are they waiting for in MMD? For the MPs they are interested in gratuities. The way to go!

    • The ladies and gentlemen that have been expelled had already left MMD. This was inevitable however expulsion is that the solution , come 2016 , we will not just adopt them to stand in their respective constituencies as they have proved beyond any reasonable doubt that they are not loyal to their own political party.

      MMD will rise again.

      I promise you that

    • @ Senior Citizen that’s good example you have given. But can’t be compared to the madness happenings in MMD. The same MP’s endorsed HH are now supporting EL, how do you explain that mr. Senior Citizen?

  2. Kikikikikikiki double standard. You still want to be members yet supporting other political parties. What kind of nonsense is that? For the sake of respect join the party of your choice. You can’t hold on two things. Politics of the belly.

    • @Andrian.check your facts in your comparison.christie,jack hagel were accused of aiding obama in 2012.rick satoramu served as ambassodor under obama.

    • @ planzo Christie was accused like you have said and what he supported was the help coming from Obama. He never companied for Obama or stand on the democratic platform to discredit his party. Get the truth my dear. And if he did companied for Obama probably he’s the only republican who came out in the open, but don’t tell me that there were no other republican who wanted to support Obama, they were many but they decided to be loyal to their party. Zambia never to move forward from the politics of the belly to politics of integrity. These people are a big danger to the zambia society. They can sell the country.

  3. okay, so its like no one has power to challange who to stop what he is doing, MMD has gon so fast, it will be the same the moment UPND will try to changr its leader

  4. Just hold the convention to sort out your numerous problems even if it means using the dirty and undemocratic PF tactics we saw at Mulungushi recently.

    • Biting the fingers that feeds you and you are supporting the stupidity of the 18+ members, well done your excellency Dr. N. Mumba we support you.

      From your Friends in Livingstone 2015

  5. @adrian mwelwa Joe lieberman is a democrat who campaigned for george bush and micheal bloomberg is a republican who campaigned for obama. Its called free conscience.

    • @Itizi….
      ….those guys you are referring to were FORMER senior members senator/mayor at the time they chose to campaign for the other ‘rival’ candidates just like Vernon Mwaanga situation…no problem with that….tell us which sitting senator or mayor came out to support the ‘rival’ candidate on the podium for that matter…..if there is any, they did it in confidence…..
      as the president of a party you cannot have your sitting vice president of the party, the sitting chairman sharing the same platform with the rival party you are in contention with condemning you as the president and the party….that’s utter rubbish….nonsense….
      ….for once imagine yourself in Nevers’ shoes, what would you do..??….call all of them for a meeting to map up way forward..??..nonsense

    • …however, I’m still of the view that instead of expelling them, the committee just needed to suspend them for now….any indiscipline conduct of any individual must first pass through a disciplinary wing of the party….if an individual fails to exculpate themselves, it is the duty of the disciplinary committee to recommend whatever disciplinary action it so deem to the main committee to discharge the fate….so far I have not heard any disciplinary case hearing for nearly all the affected senior members….that’s why Nyangu has got the guts to say its madness….
      ….we should not let the emotions get the best of us….acting on impulse….that is exactly what Nevers and group did….

  6. Good ridance two days after results Mutati and co.pledged to back hh in 2016, they automatically removed themselves from MMD, now njala ibanyokole ba mambala, some pipo don’t learn a sinyangwe nafuti

    • Iwe Makandanyama, this “njala yamunyokola” nonsense must stop! Mutati is very rich for your own info. Find something else to say!

  7. Iwe Nyangu , what were you expecting to be your fate ?? If it was in the army those days, you qualify for firing squad. Make no mistake about it.

  8. chula ntanganana. dont cry foul now, you knew what u were doing unless u av no integrity otherwise be proud of the decision you had made.

  9. These mad and dull MMD MPs or leaders like Chembe Nyangu,Felix Mutati,Mpande,etc must join other parties than destroying MMD.leave Nevers Mumba alone to organize his party!!after your actions to support PF or tribal UPND, its means you have crossed the line so stop this nonsense and let Mumba die alone with his MMD,a party which will never again be in power!!!

  10. Well done Dr Mumba, it may take MMD another 20 years to bounce back into power but this action alone is the best leadership. Mutati is UPND why shouldn’t he be expelled?. Let him and other traitors go and work with your opponents. By the way when is RB and Dora going out?. Your next action is to invite intellectuals, students, workers and other interested parties to sit down and revisit Garden House. What were the objectives of the movement? where did it go wrong and how can it get back on its path. Remember MMD does not belong to an individual. It is a democratic movement!

  11. It’s one thing to cross party lines to endorse opposition candidates. It’s quite another to insult, heckle and belittle your party president as Masebo did in support of opposition.

    That’s just the problem with Zambian Cross-Party politics. Often it is not based on puritanical verite but Party fall outs. In the case of being unable to support your Party and Leader because you have no confidence in them…..it is required to act honourably and resign.

  12. This is a classic example of lack of foresight.

    You know your Party’s core vision is now in the past, hence you are no longer a strong contender by a mile. You know your predecessor RB has caused irreversible damage to your Party by his ill-conceived failed comeback. You know the only hope you have to go forward is to be proactive and team up with other Parties or face extinction.

    Now, in spite of that knowledge, you still go ahead a shoot yourself in the foot by expelling your key members who are pro-active?

    Absolutely unbelievable! …….R.I.P MMD.

  13. @ scrutinizerer in’99 goode of virginia, hall of texas, mchale of penn., stenholm of texas & taylor of miss. (All democrats) voted for impeachment of bill clinton. No one called for there expulsion. My point is our politics need reform. We should be able to distinguish between a party & a leader. Mutati & group, gbm & group disagreed with leader not party principles. We should stop worshiping the leader. Look @ the chitimukulu saga, my take is ECL disagreed with MCS but was scared to tell him, so he towed the collective responsibility nosense. People should be able to think freely. Its what developed the west. Free thought is God given.

  14. @ scrutinizerer in’99 goode of virginia, hall of texas, mchale of penn., stenholm of texas & taylor of miss. (All democrats) voted for impeachment of bill clinton. No one called for there expulsion. My point is our politics need reform. We should be able to distinguish between a party & a leader. Mutati & group, gbm & group disagreed with leader not party principles. We should stop worshiping the leader. Look @ the chitimukulu saga, my take is ECL disagreed with MCS but was scared to tell him, so he towed the collective responsibility nosense. People should be able to think freely. Its what developed the west. Free thought is God given. Thanx for debate.

    • @itizi….
      …let us not compare apples with mangoes…..what may seem to be right in USA may be totally wrong here in Zed….here, it is morally wrong for a senior member of the party(with a portfolio) to actively campaign for a rival part or leader which you are in contention with…
      …LPM created NCC for the constitution process…MCS rubbished the idea but his lieutenants disagreed with him and joined the group…they were all threated with expulsions…that’s Zed for you..
      …forget about USA and Zed….imagine in UK, the Labour party shadow chancellor of the exchequer Ed Balls vigorously campaigning for David Cameron because he does not cherish Ed Miliband…that is next to impossible…you are better off resigning and join the other force period…

      ..thanx for your time

  15. Its high time these mps know that they don’t own mmd. for instance you cant leave ur family and join your neighbor to point finger at ur family and come bak to your family and start pointing fingers at your neighbor. it doesn’t make any sense at all. that’s total madness.

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