Munali constituency aspiring Member of Parliament Patrick Mungo has advised Government to pass a law that will restrict the construction of Mosques in Zambia.
But the Islamic Supreme Council of Zambia has described Mr Mungo’s sentiments as foolish.
In an interview, Mr Mungo said Zambia as a Christian Nation should guard against the uncontrolled growth of Islam in the country.
He claimed that Islam is a violent region which should not be allowed to dominate Zambia.
‘Looking at the rate Islam is growing in Zambia, it is really worrying. Time to pass a law to restrict Muslims from constructing Mosques in Zambia has now come and Government must act quickly,’ Mr Mungo said.
He added, ‘Right now Muslims have started expanding and going into rural areas but Zambia is a Christian Nation, declared, guided and governed by the Ten Commandments.’
But Islamic Supreme Council of Zambia President Suzyo Zimba said Mr Mungo is foolish to suggesting a law be passed to restrict the growth of Islam in Zambia.
‘This is foolish thinking and it is foolish people like that Mungo fool that is misleading people. Who tells him that Islam is violent?’
He added, ‘ the Zambian Constitution guarantees Freedom of Association and Worship so why is this fool getting the notion that he can start dictating how many Mosque’s can be opened?’
Mr Zimba has since asked Government to dismiss Mr Mungo’s suggestion with the contempt it deserves.
Just the language of this man, is good enough measure to tell the nation what kind of people Mungo is referring to here. How can a high standing person call another person a fool. Really is this the language to come out or to be attributed to a religious leader? This man does not inspire an inch to change the way most Zambians view his religion and later on violence itself.
(later on) *let alone
Shocking words, indeed, from a supposed religious leader. Because moslems have such low pinion of non-moslems and opponents that’s why they are quite willing and in fact wantonly kill them. Zambia is headed the way of Somalia and Nigeria if Islam is not curtailed. Islam is a violent and misogynistic religion everywhere you look. They have anxiously no respect for women who are treated as mere chattels in society.
They have ‘absolutely’ no respect for women who are treated as mere chattels in society.
I AGREE WITH U,JUST FROM THE WAY THIS MAN HAS REACTED,U KAN SEE THEY ARE CONTROLLED BY A VIOLENT SPIRIT.THE KORAN REFERS TO CHRISTIANS AND JEWS AS INFIDELS WHO CAN BE KILLED IF IT WILL LEAD TO PROMOION OF ISLAM.IT IS TRULY A VIOLENT RELIGION WITH NO TOLERANCE OF OTHER RELIGIONS.IF U FOUND WITH A BIBLE IN SAUDI ARABIA,PUNISMENT IS EXECUTION.IN SYRIA AND IRAQ,HOSTAGES ARE BEIN BEHEADED WITH VIDEOS BEIN PRODUCED.WAT AN EVIL RELIGION.
I support Mungo. Islam May not be a violent religion, but it provides fertile ground for AL QUADA, BOKO HARAM, ISIS & AL SHABAB Activities. This religion is only TOLERATED in Zambia, and everyone that practices it should understand that they ARE NOT the predominant religion in our country. Actually, government should consistently MONITOR the way it is practiced here. And Zambians should NOT even be apologetic about it, coz we have the option of banning altogether.
Islam is a problem. It is violent, intolerant and bigot. Wherever Muslims become a major community that village, province and country goes to dogs. They are fanatic, worship a womaniser (a man who married a young girl of 7 years age and that too of his best friend’s daughter, what a role model!). They believe in killing anybody who joins their religion but wants to leave. Saudi Arabia does not allow any church, bible or any symbol of Christianity in whole of Saudi Arabia, why shall a Christian nation allow anything that is Islamic?
Zambia is a Christian nation. That’s enough law to block religions. However, since Zambians are civilized people, we still allow free association for other religions. This doesn’t mean that they can freely expand as they wish to all parts of Zambia. Maybe they should even gather at their homes.
Mr Lungu must pay close attention to this issue of Islam in order to avoid future turmoil in the country. Look at al the countries where Islam has a stronghold. You guessed right, wars and civil tensions.
I like guys like Patrick Mungo. He is the type of leaders that Zambia needs, not these compromising leaders we have. I mean both the ruling party and the opposition alike.
You shall indeed know them by their fruits.
When it comes to ignorance on the issues of religion, Zambians place first. I am anti-theist. I support no religion. But my heart bleeds at the ignorance of my people.
No christian I know in Zambia knows the origin of their Christian Faith. They don’t even care to
research,that is what annoys most. Oh, not that. The idea that they pray to a white god and they think he will listen to them is what annoys most.Look at yourselves black people, the white god you pray to, Christ, is out to destroy you! He protects his own!
He favors people who look like him, he made them in his image, not yours. You abandoned your gods that looked like you.
Now you spend billions of Kwacha bleaching your skin and wearing wigs.
Hohohoho! Mulifipuba!
Before Zambia was single-handedly dubbed a Christian Nation by Frederick Titus Jacob Chiluba, no one past a law to restrict the proliferation of the Christian faith. You all lived and ate together like one big family. Ka kafupi had a health issue, he thought by offering Zambia as a sacrifice he would be healed. See what happened to him?
Now, you want to create a law that did not exist for you?
Zambia, you are courting trouble.
Putting xenophobia in religious context.
Don’t start a fire you can’t control, ooh!
ISLAM IS A DEMONIC RELIGION WHICH DOES NOT RESPECT FOR LIFE.IF YOU ARE A NON MUSLIM ,YOU ARE CALLED AN INFIDEL AND THAT MEANS YOU MUST BE ELIMINATED.
ZAMBIANS WAKE UP AND SPEAK OUT.
ANGOLA HAS OUTLAWED THIS DEMONIC RELIGION.LETS FOLLOW SUIT
Let’s be practical and support Patrick Mungo on facebook, please like his page and invite him to be your friend.
I fully agree with Mr. Mungo. Zambia is christian nation. Islam is a very violent religion and no one can deny that, even, the moderate Islamist will kill if the name of their god is talked about. Look at how they stone women to death. Enslave their women. Why is it that none of the top Islam people do not talk against hate or killings? I would actually even go a step further and deport all Islamist from Zambia. Let them go to the middle east and kill each other their. Soon or later they will begin to do what they did in Kenya – and many of them are imported Kenyans that Kabimba illegally brought into the country.
“Whatever we once were, we are no longer a Christian nation”
But a nation headed for disaster if you keep on allowing strange religions to be practiced in Zambia.
Islam teaches that non-Muslims are less than fully human. Muhammad said that Muslims can be put to death for murder, but that a Muslim could never be put to death for killing a non-Muslim.
How many so called top Islam’s do you know?
Islam and killing? Why are my non Muslim neighbours alive?
So blond opinion indeed.
The thing is Islam must spread all over the world first. This is what Moslems read in the Qur’an. And this will definitely happen. Moderate Moslems are good people, just as their moderate Christian brothers are. We should just strive to respect each other’s opinions and choices in life. Where there is turmoil in the middle east just know the US häd been there. The biggest difference probably the thing that will make Islam survive longer than Christianity is that it dictates your way of life. Christianity you pick the bits yu like. EZambians are not serious, so forgot stopping Islam. These Christians in power who can sell their souls to the devil. . . You think they can stop this. Utterly stupi.d
Stop this rot right now. Christians and Muslims have lived in harmony here for a long time. This kind of talk is what starts trouble, look at what s happening in South Africa, that was sparked off by some senslesess ***** and the frustrated people took his words literarly and there was blood shed.Let us all respect other religions as we do ours. ONE ZAMBIA. ONE NATION.
That is poor reasoning for a whole MP. Being a christian nation does not mean that we force people into christianity. The freedom of worship still exists and one should choose his/ her religion voluntarily. We should not discriminate our muslims brothers or link them to terrorism as that is a separate criminal group and not in any linked to Islam and should be treated as such.
Yes I agree with Mr Mungo, We do not need muslims in our nation plse. these people are so violet to other human being. They should not convert our nation into Muslims we are not interested in their mosques in Zambia. Let them go to where they are valued and not here.
@ Man Kenya, which legislation will scrutinize and distinguish the extreme islam from the sensible ones? Otherwise talking just like will be irresponsible and we will only wake up when our school children have been captured.
Wisdom requires that we learn from what has happened in many places and avoid from happening here. As a nation we don’t a system that can counter terrorism. Be honest.
Sometimes what you call human rights are human ignorance.
Man Kenya you are not a Christian that is why you are responding like that. I hear that in Anglo the Government passed a law to ban Islam, there no mosques in Angola better for the nation.
See now how the western world are trying to come up with all sorts of security measures to prevent their nation to go out to join ISIS. This all about having religious freedom. Now they paying for their actions.
@MAN KENYA: Please go and try to plant a church in Iraq, Iran, Saudi-Arabia or any of those Muslim countries and see what will happen to you. No, that even too big of a task; just go and give a Muslim guy in the mentioned countries a small copy of the Bible and tell them that Jesus loves them.
Once you have done that, please come back to Zambia and tell us what happened. Oh, I forgot, you wont make it back alive.
We are not forcing Christianity on other people. What we are saying is that Zambia is our country and we have a right to block violent religions from flourishing here. They (Muslims) can pray at home or in their communities in “peace” if they so wish.
Please start closing those Mosques before its too late.
People who don’t know English and are not educated should not comment.
Zambia is a free state which promotes any religion whereas other Muslim nations do not. Why would one build something against the law?????
Definitely a book cannot be judged by its cover. Mere assumptions are a cause of confusion and following the media will lead you astray.
Study this religion under guidance and soon you will love every bit of it
@ MAN KENYA
Have you now realized the intellectual quality of average Zambian?
could you confirm nor deny that the killings and terror action as by boko haram in nigeria and el shabab in kenya are not directly linked to islam. why do they kill christians or those who can not recite the quoran? or even use that pathetic killing name of allah?
Hey, am I missing a point here? This is what I found on Al-qaid;
‘al-Qa’ida is a global militant Islamist organization founded by Osama bin Laden, Abdullah Azzam, and several other militants’.
And about Boko Haram;
‘Nigeria’s militant Islamist group Boko Haram – which has caused havoc in Africa’s most populous country through a wave of bombings, assassinations and abductions – is fighting to overthrow the government and create an Islamic state’.
Tell me again these are not associated with Islam.
it was the mans opinion to restrict the booming of some following,we all have our own opinions ..respect each mans opinion..we dont know alot about islam but examples of activities where there are found in mass are not pleasing at all..
I totally agree with Mr Mungo. If we allow Islam to spread uncontrollably very soon we shall have the Kinya situation in our Country snd this cannot be allowed at all cost. These moslems are taking advantage of the poverty and vulnerability of our people and are using handouts money, food any wealth to woo people to that violent religion.
Can the Govt take this warning seriously and put in some measures to curb growth of Islam in our nation
Truly When we look at the language their leader is using, you can tell that this Islamic religion is violent. How can a religious leader be so abusive even when someone has committed wrong against him? Does this religion promote unity and forgiveness? This religious leader should have responded to Mungo in a very respective & humble way in order to be given support by the majority. Me too I’ve seen as if truly Islam is a violent religion according to their response to Mungo.
Religion is all about demonising the other person who thinks differently from the other person’s thoughts.
Your definition suits politics and not religio. Religion is not just a matter of thinking different, but a matter of practice. Here the contention is about what happens in places where Islam is strongly present.
I can see that you came across this definition and you shared it without analyzing it.
While other religions verbally demonise the non-believers and encourage them to convert through compassionate deeds, Islam demolishes nonbelievers through murder and enslavement.
That is very untrue….you are wrong my dear.
Mr Mungo u are a very bold man I have ever heard and met so far. You are not coward…actually u must be president of this nation. Your sentiments has really shown how spiritual u are, because u are able to see where we are going. These Muslim’s with their religion should be controlled in this nation. I’m also seeing a situation where once they have expanded in number in our nation, they will have a big voice and zambia will be like Nigeria. And we should not blame anyone should Boko Haram rise in Zambia. Already we have their training center in Chaisa Mosque where they train Suicide Bombers. Open your eyes people. Open your eyes Zambia. Thumbs up mr Mungo.
Shallow mind. Jesus died for all including muslims
Can you please go back to the real chaisa and see instead of bringing the story of some unknown place on this planet.
As a leader of the islamic. first you are wrong by calling your friend as foolish. as a leader you need to give advise and defend your religion. you are just telling us how you muslims behave. if a leader can act like the way you have done, what about the other members of the mosque. Islam means peace. i suggest you resign from your post mr suzyo zimba
he represents the organisations policies,,he is employed to attack any oppossing views while the owners are in the background..we are watching very carefully from now onwards..
Mungo is right. There’s a restriction Saudi Arabia (the birth place of Islam) on the freedom of other religion. This Muslim supreme leader is blind to his religion. How can he deny that Islam in not violet. Which religion has produced the Alqaida, ISIS, Boko haran and Al Shabab etc, to mention abut a few. But Lungu and RB will do nothing and RB is even worse who allowed the mosque to be built where houses were on Addis Abbaba Road. If we Zambians are not careful with Islam now, it will not be long before we start crying like our Kenyan friends.
As we embrace Moslems in Zambia we must be ready to experience the WHOLE PACKAGE, which includes the VIOLENT SHARIA part … sooner or later we shall reap the fruit thereof!
This shallowness is scaring.If someone who wants to be an MP can think like this,then I’m afraid.Both islam and christianity are alien to zambia but are allowed becoz of freedom of association which is guaranteed in the constitution.Pastors are burning wives and stealing from church members,to you its okay.Leave moslems alone to enjoy their rights as citizens.Who told you that you have more rights as a christian than your fellow zambian who is a moslem.Be serious.
Some pastors may truly be commiting all sorts of crimes, for which they actually will not escape due punishment, BUT NEVER IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST … this is the whole difference!
Thank you Sir for this comment, people forget that these religions were brought to this land by foreigners. I actually believe that labeling Zambia as a Christian nation is wrong, I am a christian by the way. If Zambia is a free and democratic country then, why should we decide how many mosques can be built and not churches. Christianity has been a violet religion, people have been killed if they didn’t not believe in it, so lets not paint other religions as violet forgetting how the christian faith over powered the world.
We don’t need MP like this chap who create more hate.
Excellent!!! You’ve nailed it!!!..was waiting to hear a comment from an enlightened person…all religion is actually nonsense.
There is no nailing here but lack of understanding of Islam. When one joins Islam and decides to renounce the faith (Apostasy) the consequence is death and that what Islam teaches. I don’t think such religions should be protected by the constitution. So just because Christians and other religious groups also DO EVIL is not a justification to also tolerate a religion that TEACHES EVIL.
no young man be real we all know that Zambia is a christain nation and you wont change that ,,it simply means that christans are in charge here .. so live with it or go away…
Too many mosques in Zambia will create wrangles between Muslims and Christians in Zambia.
Because Christians are becoming Muslims in their conduct – intolerant.
It is easy for one Christian to no pay attention to what they do but what others do d then cry foul. Christians ate hypocrites!
There were many more things on the table and they ate it all… not to forget remain uneducated
Go and build a church in Islamic country and see how quickly it will turn into ashes.
How many baptist churches are in Saudi Arabia? These mosques will be hiding places for extremists. These people are like vermin. They need to be checked, otherwise they will spread their toxic views and with extreme poverty levels in Zambia, many unemployed youths many join.
..Zimba may describe Mungo’s utterances as f00lish…but I can assure the nation that Mungo’s utterance is a very very ‘timely’ warning….the effect of what Mungo is saying may not be realised or may not blossom any time soon…may be 50/60 years from now when you and I will be gone then..but Zed shall still be there and guess what…occupies by your great grandchildren. The reference is all out there for us to see…show me a country with 50-50 Christians and Muslims which is stable…violent free..?..apart from Ukraine war which is about ‘land’ issues..every other war is about Muslims against Muslims or Muslims against Christians..recent beheading of Egyptian Christians on Libyan beach is testimony enough to justify what Mungo is talking about…..as the say goes……
…as the saying goes….not all Muslims are terrorists but all terrorists are……………
I agree with you. People should take time to read the Koran. The book is full of hatred for non-muslims. We need to act before these murderers start killing to propagate their religion. Why is it that almost all terrorists are muslims? Their appetite for sex has made them become suicide bombers with a false hope of finding 10 virgins in heaven.
Can anybody explain what happened to all the slaves that the moslem Arab slave traders stole away from Africa for hundreds of years? What happened to them? Were they castrated and not allowed to reproduce? Today one still sees the millions of descendants of slaves who were taken to the west, from Brazil, to the West Indies, and all the way to USA. But I don’t see the offspring of slaves in the middle east. Why? ?
Most of them play for the Saudi Arabian Football Team. You will never see an Arab in that team
The comment from the Islamic Council of Zambia President, Mr Suzyo Zimba, is very interesting. What does he say about Saudi Arabia where there is no freedom of worship for Christians? What about Pakistan where a man was jailed for being a Christian? Can he say that the people who passed this law in Pakistan and Saudi Arabia are very foolish? The reaction from Mr Zimba is a clear manifestation of his violent behavior. Mr Zimba should just admit that islam is a very violent and oppressive religion. Islam is actually the biggest threat to world peace. Muslims believe in imposing their religion on everyone. Mr Zimba cannot kill at the moment because Muslims are not in the majority in Zambia. We need to support Mr Mungo. We do not want Boko Haram and Al Shabaab in Zambia. Time to act is now.
For sure it was a Slave Triangle, and Arabs came to Africa and traded for slave so what happen to those African slaves
“Islam is the only religion that has to retain its membership by threatening to kill anyone who leaves. This is according to the example set by Muhammad”.
My brothers and sisters, Mr Mungo is very right
Islam is a violent religion that does not practice forgiveness. Those of you who have not been to most of these Islamic nations do not know how christians are treated. Take forexample Khartoum in Sudan where regular times the christian churches in the central town are constantly set on fire by these muslims. Even the response from their supreme leader can tell you that these guys are bad news. If you speak against their koran or their God Muhamad you are labelled as an enemy of Islam and you will have to be killed. Look at the young woman who was killed for allegedly burning the Koran which was not even true. If you are a muslim and you denounce it and convert to christianity you will be killed unless you convert to muslim as a christian.
Please read about Islam with the rightly guided as your not well educated.
There is no need to read about Islam. Historical incidences are there to teach what religion it is. Violence against non Muslims is there motto. Thats what they promote and the man is right.
“Historical incidents ” if this is the case then why in class did you always tell your friend that you don’t believe what the teacher is saying????
Because you had the correct information that time. Now your so called information has been diluted like what beer does to your head and you speak nonsense.
The call by the Hon. MP is long overdue if not too late. There are only a handful of the peaceful Islamists, the majority fit the description by Hon. MP. Some of us lamented over this a long time ago but we had no voice. It won’t be long before we begin to see this cult bring violence in the name of Islam. If Zambia was an Islamic state there would have been no christian in this country, these guys Kill other faiths . Mr Suzyo Zimba is is not a real man he does not see the violence perpetrated by his new acquired cult. He calls Mr Mungo foolish without advancing any substance to the discussion. Some of us have lived in Islamic states we know how intolerant this cult is. We should give them an open check book, much as we are a peaceful nation.
Just the kind of language coming from Mr. Zimba, is evident enough to the sentiments attributed by Mr. Mungo.
Those that know Mr. Zimba very well will tell you that this man is in this for benefits. He used to be a Christian but noticed how to make man in the name of Allah………..Revenge is for Mr. Zimba and for us Christians, we leave everything in the hands of God.
@PP: I do not support the acts of terrorism in any way having witnessed how cruel these criminals are but I would wish to point out one thing. These people take advantage of poverty and entice the youth with money for terror recruitment . They kill mostly christians to insinuate that this is a Christian/ muslim war which is not the case. Fellow muslims equally condemn them and those unlucky (muslims) are killed by these criminals . So, I wonder in my opinion whether its right to condemn Isamic totally without contradicting the law on freedom of worship. However, its also very important for the govt to spy out what is taught in these mosques to avoid possible these ideological recruitments.
Why is it that we don’t have Xtian Xtrimist? The answer is simple ,Xtianity does not encourage violence unlike Islam. Don’t pretend naimwe.
Amen to Mr Mungo. I wish we had 10 of Mr Mungo’s boldness in Parliament. In Chewa we say, ndikhale nao analanda malo. Please our Government, listen to what Mr Mungo is saying. ime to correct this is now. God bless you Mr Mungo for bringing up this valid point.
Islam is not a religion of peace. Meanwhile….. Christians are being persecuted in Muslim countries, it said whole Christian populations face possible eradication in Muslim countries.
CRY MY BELOVED COUNTRY!!!
ISLAM IS THE BIGGEST MISTAKE HUMANITY HAS EVER FACED.WE FOLLOW JESUS CHRIST,BUT A CROOKED MAN HU WAS MARRIED TO HIS BOSS,WENT INTO FITS AND SICKNESS,AND A VOICE WITHIN HIM TOLD HIM TO FORM A NEW RELIGION CALLED ISLAM SINCE HE WAS HAVING DOUBTS ABOUT CHRISTIANITY.THIS MAN WAS NO OTHER THAN MOHAMED.THIS RELIGION HAS BROT NOTHING BUT VIOLENCE AND HATRED ON EARTH.THE QUESTION IS WHAT VOICE SPOKE TO MOHAMED?LETS NOT FORGET THE DEVIL ONCE TOOOK JESUS TO THE MOUNTAIN TO TEMPT HIM.ITS POSSIBLE TO DECEIVE BILLION S OF PIPO THE DA SAME HITLER DECEIVED GERMANS THAT THEY ARE A SUPERIOR RACE.
Mohamed got married. He wasn’t a duck like you.
My fellow brothers and sisters, let us stop the spread of Islam in Zambia as much as possible. These people are evil. very soon we will start having suicide bombings in Zambia and our constitution will have sharia laws.
A Christian church in Mosul, Iraq that was destroyed by members of the Islamic State.
SAY NO, TO ALL RELIGIONS!!!
F00ls will always say F00lish things. You must find life you fake creature!
I agree. Religion as a whole is a foolish enterprise and is the cause of most of the world’s problems. I still cannot believe people think there is an invisible dude in the sky who made the universe! I was twelve years old when I realised how ridiculous religion and the belief in God and satan and angels and Jesus were. Very sad.
Just like how a 12 yr old is known for his childish behaviour and pathetic opinions similar is your view and behaviour. Please grow up and start using your brains that GOD gave.
1 cor 1 :18 For the message of the cross is foolishness to those that are perishing.
athiests almost follow humanity they are against voilence but islam religion is demonic,satanic…the ultimate goal of islam is to convert as many people as possible to islam…so they want to rule all over the world by following their satanic demon allah…all christians and other religions other than islam should be united and eradicate this demonic religion as soon as possible…
Who told you that christianity is a zambian religion.Go back to school and enrol for history lessons. Pipo were equally converted to christianity by force.Take school serious and develop a reading culture so that you read on your own instead of exposing your ignorance.
Yes those years people could get their way by force even religion but not in this civilised age, you can’t force people to do what you want or to belong to yo faith. So iwe Mwanansenga. Islamic violence has no justification
Im educated and I also know that there is a lot of foolishness in school. For example, the cursed topic of evolution. Im sure you are referring to the Roman Empire when true Christians were killed for believing that there was only one God and they refused to worship man made rituals.
True Christians know that fake so called history. Moslem on the other hand will kill anyone who is not Moslem in their nations and yet they want to impose their religion on sovereign nations like ours. No Sir. We know who they are and we reject them completely. The government must just act and close those Mosques, period.
..Moslems are evil. Stop them before they spread like bush fire. Look at what is happening in Nigeria, Kenya, Uganda. Zambia, in the next 20 years could be the same.
I implore the Immigration Dpt and other defense and security wings to be very alert on the entrance of Somalis, Eritrians, Ethiopians and generally moslems. These people have a potential to cause civil unrest.
Yes, Mr. Mungo is very right and this is a timely warning which most of us should receive with both hands for the sake of posterity.
The ignorance is just overwhelming for me to comment any further on the thread…as for this dangerous dull Mungo man its a case of a pot calling the kettle black.
Zambians wake up from your stupor and study about self and free your minds!!
RELIGIOUS EXTREMIST LIKE MUSLIMS MUST BE BANNED NOT ONLY IN ZAMBIA BUT EVERYWHERE ELSE. WE ALL KNOW ABOUT THE GARISSA ATTACK, THE BOKO HARAM, THE ISIS, ALL THESE CHARACTERS ARE MUSLIMS. NON OF THEM IS CHRISTIAN. WHY SHOULD WE PRETEND AS IF WE LIVE ON MARS WHEN WE CAN SEE THESE THINGS HAPPENING DAYLIGHT.
THEY ABDUCTED GIRLS IN NIGERIA WERE SEXUALLY CHEWED, MADE PREGNANT WITHOUT THEIR CONSENT AND THEN U CALL THESE CHALATANTS FRIEND PEOPLE? NOT UNTIL WE GET ADBUCTED THATS WHEN WE SHALL SEE SENSE IN MUNGOS STATEMENT.
Giving them the title of Islam does jot make them Muslims
Mungo is right…..This Islam is a violet religion which does not respect women and non Moslems. A Woman can not be allowed to speak in front of men or take up any leadership position like our Vice President or chief justice and later on the Inspector General of police. Mr. Zimba knows this very well and even the Zambian Moslems, especially the Indians in Makeni do not recognize him as their leader. Mr. Zimba used to be a Christian and saw the benefits that are there in working with these Moslems. For the Christians, revenge is left to the LORD but for Moslems, revenge is for them. If you offend a Moslem, you are gone in whatever form…….Not a good religion to promote in Zambia because we are a Christian nation.
Zambia must wake up asap. Islam is like a slow burning fuse that you light and forget about it until it explodes. No two ways about it we have to act now. Let them call it persecution or xenophobia we have to stem it in the bud.
It is clear that Mr Zimba representing the Islamic Council, is very violent (at least in his language).
How can someone VIOLENTLY deny that they are not VIOLENT?
How can some fight people to convince them that he is not a fighter?
I will not take it that Zimba is individually violent, because he was in fact speaking in representing Islamic Council of Zambia. Thus his character, views, language and feelings projected in his speech represent those of the organization he is representing.
All those that are condemning Mungo have to ask themselves why he has only singled out Islam and not other religions. Islam is a breeding ground for violence than any other religion on the planet.
It is true Muslims behave like a sheep when they have have not yet gain ground in an area, thereafter they become leopards. We can get a leaf from what is happening in other countries where Muslims are in large numbers! Similarly, the way Zimba has come out in this article can give better indications what a real Muslim is like. Let us not lock the door when the horse has been stolen! We don’t want to be victims in future due to the ill activities of Muslims.
mr zimba you have just proved that you are a violent religion who must be carefyully watched just like egypt has banned the brotherhood. how do you react like that when you are to prove that you are not violent . infact you are not growing but using money which is wrong way of doing things
mr zimba you have just proved that you are a violent religion who must be carefully watched just like egypt has banned the brotherhood. how do you react like that when you are to prove that you are not violent . infact you are not growing but using money which is wrong way of doing things
Islam is indeed a very Evil religion and the mere mention of it sends shivers down my spine.
Mr. Mungo is very RIGHT. Muslim is very hypocritical as a religion. In the Quran their Supreme Leader Muhammad had acknowledged that JESUS was a prophet from GOD (Allah). The question is: WHY DO MUSLIMS like Boko Haram, Al-Shabab and ISIS kill Christians and destroy all Christian Artifacts in the areas that they have conquered???
Islam came into existence 400 years after Christianity and all Muhammad did was to copy the Old Testament in his Quran whilst acknowledging that JESUS was also a prophet from Allah as himself – he later added a few revelations of very questionable origin as words dictated to him directly by Allah. This is just a copy cut religion that envied the popularity of Christianity.
I can insult a Christian and all he will say is: “FATHER FORGIVE HIM FOR HE KNOWS NOT…
I can insult a Christian and all he will say is: “FATHER FORGIVE HIM FOR HE KNOWS NOT WHAT HE IS DOING OR SAYING”. If you insult a Muslim them you have created a SUICIDE BOMBER and A DEATH SENTENCE FOR YOURSELF. Islam should not be allowed by all peace loving citizens of the world.
From the harsh words one cant tell that muslims are not good people. How can some one
a leader for that matter call anothrr a fool? Two wrongs never make a right.
OUR LEADERS ARE SO WEAK IN MIND WHEN IT COMES TO DECISION-MAKING. ZAMBIA IS A CHRISTIAN COUNTRY WHY SHOULD WE START SEEING MOSQUES IN A CHRISTIAN COUNTRY INSTEAD OF CHURCHES AND KINGDOM HALLS? IF YOU GO TO IRAN OR SAUDI ARABIA WHICH ARE ISLAMIC COUNTRIES YOU WILL BE VERY LUCKY TO FIND A CHURCH OR KINGDOM HALL. IN FACT ONE DON’T DARE TO EVEN START DREAMING UP OF SUCH IDEAS. SO, WHY SHOULD WE BE APOLOGETIC TO OTHER ESTABLISHMENTS IN ZAMBIA? WE ARE CHRISTIANS AND WE SHOULD BE SEEN AS SUCH. LET’S PRESERVE OUR COUNTRY AND NOT INVITE TROUBLE OR CREATE POTENTIAL TROUBLE THAT WE SEE IN MOST COUNTRIES EG NIGERIA, SOMALIA AND OTHER ISLAMIC COUNTRIES. ZAMBIANS ARE PEACE-LOVING AND WE SHOULD REMAIN AS SUCH.
I like the boldness of Mungo and I earnestly hope his words are heeded. The man is telling us all what time it is.
Regulation is definately needed before things get out of hand. It is definately a good measure to control the building of mosques. Nothing against having a muslim community – we know the majority of them are able to live peacefully with christians but how do you sort out the bad apples if the bunch keeps growing bigger?
It’s easy. First you find the bad ones and throw them away. In this case you will only remain with Muslims as all rooten ones were Christians.
I agree with mongo,these people are violent look at the launguage of this so-called religious leader.Those of you who think mungo is talking from without go and see what is happening in Eastern province .
Shocking how this Zimba Muslim man has responded. Typical of Jihadists they dont want to be criticised in any way – they chop your head off.
While I disagree with Mungo about restricting religion, i urge government to be vigilant on harbouring terorism. For sure one day islamic violence will errupt in Zambia if we do not creatively ensure extremism is controlled in Zambia.
This Zimba character sounds like an extremist and the intelligence service should start following him and his phones must be tapped!!
You ignore Mungo’s demand at your peril. That Islam is a very violent is without debate. Christian leaders and practitioners must embrace this with enthusiastic aplomb.
thank mungo for aletting us, otherwise we neva know tt islamic is growing so fast we thank God that he has given us Lungu a listerning president, he will control the situation we dnt want suide bombers in zambia. they have bitter hearts no wonder they kill one another
Government kindly take heed of Mr Mungo’s timely warning. These mosques are being constructed at a very fast rate and slowly but surely taking up very strategic locations….e.g One near state house on burma road, addis abbaba mosque. We are not saying ban the religion completely, but regulations need to be put in place where this religion can be closely monitored.
O yes monitor Islam when they teach peace but leave Christianity which teaches to become inhumane and violant for 6 days a week and wear a tie and suit for one morning to show how good you look…
Islamic characters are in the process of setting up all of educational institutions, including all manner of madras-as, colleges, not to mention universities in such places as Mpulungu, Kaputa, etc. Action to arrest these and other forms of Islamist intrusion in our Christian citadel ere urgently called for.
Most Zambians pretend to be Christians full stop, the country was declared a christian nation by someone who never exhibited Christ like behaviour but that is another story. The difference between the Christianity of today and Islam is that Christians will try to convince us to change our ways while Muslims will force us to change our ways and that’s what makes it worse. Why should you force someone to dress a certain way, not drink beer, not cut their hair or beard, not listen to certain music, stone them to death for tearing a page from the koran etc. Despite the freedom of religion in the country we should be cautious with those who would use force to save us from ourselves.
Just the response of this so called Zimba or what ever he calls himself reveals the type of people Muslims are. I lest my case
remember the owners Boko Haram?
This issue was again brought out by one of the Councillor in Lusaka. I mean Government should be worry of the mushrooming of Mosques in the country and more so in LUSAKA and Central Provinces. Muslim know well that the central political power is in Lusaka and when time comes they will just mobilise enough and challenge The political leaders. I EXPECT HIS EXERLENCE LUNGU WILL TAKE A DELIBERATE MOVE TO PUT A HAULT TO THE BUILDING OF MOSQUES. ONE THING ABOUT THESE MOSLIMS IS THEY HAVE THE MONEY FROM THE MIDDLE EAST AND ARE CAPABLE OF BUYING PIECE OF LAND ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTRY< HENCE THE NEED TO PUT A DILIBERATE POLICY. Zambia is a Christian nation and we are endangering our future generation if we allow these guys built wantonly through out like this. Worse still, our youths are poor hence
Sounds like your a prostitute and your partner or people around you do not know. Please don’t be shy and go on and tell them and see what their barbaric action they take in taking you out of your house without mercy because it’s not church day today
Religiophobia! Christians who are corrupt, adulterers and thieves no respect for the presidency! Both fake christians and muhamadans are useless
VIOLENT LANGUAGE FROM A LEADER OF ISLAM, “A PEACEFUL” religion asks them to kill infidels”, Zimba is a typical example of what is happening in other countries around the World, Islam must be stopped from spreading in Zambia
Islam is sex-driven cult of Arabian desert. More the merrier. I love Islam as it allows me to marry 4 wives at a time and have as many concubines as I can afford.
And that guy thinks he can Be MP with shallow thinking like that .Zambia is not a christain state to the exclussion of others .That declaration is just a declaration saying that the vast Majority are christians.This clown mungo dosnt understand this and he wants to be MP?
you must be a jihadist
Just close those Mosques. Why are we even wasting time debating on this obvious topic? The evidence of Islam brutality and violence is right in our faces. Just pass a law that restrict the building of Mosques in Zambia. No, just close all those Mosques, period. We dont need more problems.
5 yrs ago car was stolen. I saw a Christian steal it.
4yrs ago my house was broken into. There were 5 Christians
3 yrs ago 2 people were murdered. The crooks were 3 Christians
2 yrs ago a woman was rapped. A Christian was found guilty.
1 yr ago family issue came up and the sister was found having an affair with someone else hence she was tortured later to know there were all Christians.
This yr…. uncountable events.
Change Islam is violence to Christianity is violence.
If Islam is hiding in freedom of worship in our country, the best we can to do away with them and remain peaceful as we have always been is to do away with the freedom of worship completely so that we safeguard the future generations from stoning of women, and terrorism. How can a religious leader start insulting if he means good to the people? Its a wake up call.
Stoning a woman? Why not a man?? Seems like there’s a lot missing in knowledge and information.
Remain in peace? Islam was and still is in the country and no problem came rather there is more peace. Sure Islam promoted it.
I KNOW THIS MUNGO CHAP VERY WELL. HE RUNS A COMPANY CALLED FORLAN LOGISTICS WHICH RUNS NUMEROUS FRAUD SCAMS. HE IS ONE OF THE MAIN GUYS WHO BRINGS IN RUN-DOWN CARS FROM CHINA WHICH ARE CAUSING SO MANY ACCIDENTS. JUST GOOGLE FORLAN LOGISTICS AND YOU WILL SEE. HE IS MAKING SUCH STATEMENTS BECAUSE HE WANTS TO BECOME AN MP AND MAKING SUCH STATEMENTS MAKES HIM FAMOUS. HE WILL CAUSE FURTHER CORRUPTION AND STEAL MONEY FROM HONEST ZAMBIANS. ITS TIME WE WAKE UP AND NOT ALLOW SUCH THIEVES TO RULE OVER US.. REMEMBER, HAVING CORRUPT POLITICIANS IS 100 TIMES WORSE THAN HAVING A RELIGIOUS POPULATION
From about 90 comments above, only the maximum of 5 people think that Islam is okay. 85 people dont want Islam and the building of Mosques in Zambia. I know some people made more than one comment.
Anyway, you get the picture. The majority Zambians have spoken and any aspiring leader should take note if they want to win the next elections. Any leader that will display good Christian morals will win.
Majority never changes reality my dear.
CHRISTIAN MORALS makes people win??? Your far from politics and have understood morals. Everything is in the face and records for the last 50yrs of where the country has gone with your so called Christian morals that even the animals are suffering.
Time the government got concerned about these jihadists before we have suicide bombers all over the place.
Dear readers for those of you who think islam is a religion of violence i invite you to please come and see for your selves what we teach at any mosque near you. Please do not judge islam for what is portrayed in the westen media as being a muslim we condone in the strongest manner the actions of any extremist group who kill in the name of Islam. Thank you and may Allah bless all of you.
@ muhammed: Too late to apologize on Mr Zimba’s behalf. Your leader has already proved to us that he is violent by calling Patrick Mungo all sorts of names.
@Muhammed. What does your religion teach about apostasy? Islam teaches that you should put to death people that renounce faith in Islam. You will defend your religion violence because you are blinded by it and I am sure you see nothing wrong with such teaching since you are made to believe that they are coming from GOD.
Wonder where you got your information from. Don’t shoot arrows in the dark.
No ways Muhammed Why did you want to kill Salman Rushdie? You Christians too have killed plenty of people in the name of your God. Galileo comes to mind
“…the Islamic Supreme Council of Zambia has described Mr Mungo’s sentiments as foolish.”
AS ZAMBIAN, I THINK WE SHOULD NOT BE ACCEPTING MORE INSULTS FROM THESE FOOLISH AND STUPID SO CALLED, Islamic Supreme Council of Zambia. ZAMBIA IS FOR ZAMBIANS AND ZAMBIA HAS BEEN RIGHT DECLARED A CHRISTIAN COUNTRY AND FOR THE RIGHT REASON. FIRSTLY, THE REPRESENTATIVE OF THIS ZAMBIAN SUPREME NONSENSE SHOULD KNOW THAT THIS IS ZAMBIA. THERE IS NO WAY A ZAMBIAN CAN GO TO IRAN INSULT IRANIANS PUBLICLY AND COME BACK AS A HUMAN BEING. THAT ZAMBIAN WOULD COME BACK IN A CASKET AND BEHEADED. SO, FOREIGNERS AND THEIR ORGANISATIONS WHETHER IT BE CHRISTIAN, IMF, HINDU SHOULD LEARN TO RESPECT ZAMBIANS WHEN IN ZAMBIA AS ZAMBIANS DO WHEN ABROAD/OVERSEAS.
@Aleshaday: I am a christian and Kenyan where terrorism is rampant. I am not a sympathiser of the terrorists but I respect the law. One cannot just wake up one day and overturn the law abruptly banning other religions. Due process must be followed to change the law and the defendants can use justice (court) to withhold your intentions, You can’t chase a rat from your house by burning down the whole house, can you? We cant excel by eliminating others. The govt should humanly monitor and spy out the mosque’s teachings for security reasons. Measures may be taken but justice must prevail, humanly speaking.
To sum it ALL;
Islam is a cursed religion biblically formed by decendants of Ismael, a fighter, rejected bitter son of Abraham. Zambia moslem are not quite as we see them, they are full of vernom, hatred and relentlessly no fear of death, as long you are against mohammed.
Government MUST control the spread of islam sooner the better or else BOKOs will one day invade zambia.
No hope of understanding by uneducated people. Just found out how people can misguided others through lack of knowledge
I returned to zambia after being away for a long time, i was shocked to see the number of mosques which have been built in Lusaka. I grew up in kabwata and there was one mosque at that time. When i returned back home, i remember informing my wife that it was worrying with the number of mosques being built in Zambia. I have got nothing against the muslims, but over the years i have seen destruction caused in name of being muslim. Here in the UK, they are facing a big problem and if this issue is not resolved asap, will be seing destruction in Zambia in years to come, similar to what we are witnessing in Nigeria and all over the world. Well done to Mr Mungo, a man who talks sense before it is too late.
Whether Zambia is a Christian Nation or not these Muslims will kill you once they over run your country. Just look at Boko Haram of Nigeria, E Shabab of Somalia, ISS of the Middle East. They even Aid Workers. Like I said stop this wheel from rolling down hill
Definitely let’s go up the hill and increase the Muslims so peace prevails making us have a pleasant hilltop view
Islam is violent.
The great nations in the West that sought to be politically correct are now reaping the consequences of the open door policies to Islam, and they are paying through the roof to keep an eye on them.
You then have Nigeria and Sudan. Furthermore, look at Pakistan and Iran.
Just do it quietly, no pronouncements, don’t give them land. Inform all councilors. It was a worst mistake to give these guys a place in Lusaka and the man behind it must have been blinded by money. These guys are so “peaceful” when they are minority and are bad news once in control. Look to what they have done to Kenya. Wake up Zambia.
Iam more than ready to join protest against the spread of Mosque in Zambia.I know because poverty moslem are using it to lure a lot of Zambians to join them.Poor Zambian are being forced to change their names.I know one Man from Mansa who has changed his name from Stephen to Mohamed because of being offered good business opportunities by these moslems.
Poor mansa guy… then you should have rescued him. But so unfortunate that you never cared for your own brother.
The problem is we are looking at islam through the western propaganda media. Islam has co-exist with christinity for the last 1,400 years. Its only in recent past that there has heighten agenda to demonise islam as it is the only religion that can standup to western colonial agenda. Don’t judge islam by the comment of one person. Those comments are more political than from a learned islamic leader which the said leader is not.
Mr. ZIMBA is a mouth piece for the muslims and all that he says, does, is what they believe and what they are.
I once said that these people are coming in our country every day without control.
To prove their arrogance, visit any of their buildings in Makeni and you shall find they have gone beyond the established boundary. WHAT ARE THE TOWN PLANNERS DOING? The same goes for mosques which are being built everywhere to accommodate these salaula selling muslims. This is the story of the “master and the camel” where the master was displaced by the camel, because he felt pity for it. DON’T GIVE THEM SPACE ANY MORE.
I am very in support with what Mr. Mungo has said, and many of My fellow brothers and sisters who are true Zambians and love the Country at heart, let us stop the spread of Islam in Zambia as much as possible. These people are evil. very soon we will start having suicide bombings in Zambia.The warning is very timely, let us see the happenings in Countries were Islam in practiced.Young Zambian I would like to urge you in future not to be signing Declarations before being understood fullest. Example; The Abuja Declaration,if you thoroughly go deep in this paper, you’re going to ask yourself many questions why someone can append signature because it talks about Africa Muslim world. Once converted to the Religion,you can not leave it..The big number of them, then Christians will be cleared.
How can there be a bomb blast in a country which has nothing inside?
Boko Haram has killed 13 000 Nigerians since 2009. Any Zambian supporting setting Muslim nonsense is a traitor. Let us allow only minimal to none association with mediocrity and foolishness.
The moment Islam is eradicated from the face of the earth, the world will remain a peaceful place to live in. Just imagine, no Islam, no war anywhere in the world. People will then focus on important developmental issues. In my world, there is no room for Islam.
Your world??? I think it’s bout time you came out and saw the real world with the real people.
@Nakulu, let chi Suzyo Zimba answer that pertinent question you have asked about “Alshabab and Boko Haram”.
No matter how much this Muslim Zimba insults Mungo is right and he has my support indeed.
What does the.Bible.say about.Islam ? Its forbearer Ismail was described as a ‘Beast of a man whose hand shall be against all men’
PLEASE READ IF U DONT KNOW
prophesy fulfilled continously for thousands of years…
JESUS IS Life…choose life
THE PROSECUTION RESTS
I wonder what was written before someone like you changed it
Some clown said JESUs esus is a white man and its a white mans religion….
An attempt to exploit a division and sow animosity.
JESUS as a jew is from the stock as muhammed an arab …racially JESUS is the same as the arabs and as close to a white man as He is to a chinese.
BUT do they care..nope…to exploit a situation they will lie….the father of lies is who ??????
There are similarities between African man and Mohammed. Both are polygamists, sleep around with many women, indulge in fights and wars, change statements to suit changed situation, believe and helped slave trade, have intolerance of diverse views. Islam is the right religion for Africa. No more churches in Africa but mosques only.
Read the history of muhammad before attaching your qualities on him.
i think mungo is a lunatic so are pipo supporting him,be reminded that islam in zambia has been there for ages and so to suggest that building of mosque should be restricted is foolish thinking from an uneducted would be MP.Xenophobia did start just like this so if u want us zambian born moslems and u christian born zambian start fighting u start u compaign on so called face book and then u face the consquences.Lets respect one others religion and truth of the matter is that islam world over is fast growing because of goseple spreding.
All religions should be put into a box and thrown into a Wiley Coyote cartoon and exploded with dynamite and then thrown off a cliff,………….after which, a small puff of dust will billow up.
But Suzyo Zimba walitumpa, kwati banobe abo mwipaya nabo abantu. How sets of 72 virgins are you expecting to have in Hell?
@zamzam69, you are a true lunatic. I can’t respect a murderous demon possessed religion that beheads people daily, sends people strapped with bombs to kill themselves and others. Fool, you don’t read stories daily? Your people just killed students in Kenya and at a mall earlier. What part of stupidity in your religion don’t you understand?