UPND Vice President and Kasama Member of Parliament (MP) Geoffrey Mwamba popularly known as GBM, has lost his parliamentary seat.
This means that Mr. Mwamba immediately ceases to be Kasama Central MP even though he did not voluntarily resign from the Patriotic Front (PF), the party which sponsored his candidature in the 2011 general elections.
Speaker of the National Assembly Patrick Matibini announced in parliament when he made a ruling on a point of order which was raised last week on whether Mr. Mwamba, who was elected on a Patriotic Front (PF) ticket in 2011, was in order to remain in parliament when he has joined another political party and subsequently appointed its Vice President.
Dr. Matibini, who delivered a 55-minute ruling, explained that the Kasama lawmaker, Mr. Mwamba, crossed the floor.
The House was characterised with jubilation from mainly PF parliamentarians as the Speaker was delivering the ruling.
Dr. Matibini quoted Article 71 (2)(c) of the constitution and said a member of the National Parliament shall vacate his seat in the Assembly if she/he becomes a member of a political party other than the party of which he was an authorised candidate when he was elected to the National Assembly.
“I now declare the Kasama Central parliamentary seat vacant and Honourable Mwamba loses his seat forthwith because he crossover to another political party,” the Speaker said.
Last week, Home Affairs Minister and PF Chipili MP Davies Mwila rose on a point of order seeking the Speaker’s ruling on whether it was in order for Mr. Mwamba to continue sitting in Parliament when he had joined the opposition United Party for National Development (UPND).
Dr. Matibini further ruled that Independent Lubansenshi MP Patrick Mucheleka has not lost his seat although he is a strong sympathizer of the opposition UPND.
The appointment of GBM as Vice President in the UPND has attracted reactions from various stakeholders.
Recently, President Edgar Lungu advised the former Kasama Central parliamentarian to choose between serving the ruling party or stay in the opposition.
On opposition UPND MPs who are serving in the government after being appointed by President Lungu and have been campaigning for the Patriotic Front, during by-elections, the Speaker ruled that the named lawmakers were still MPs because they were appointed by the Republican President.
President Edgar Lungu appointed MMD Mwandi MP Michael Kaingu as Minister of Education among other MPs from the opposition.
The Speaker also guided the House on how former opposition National Party MP Ben Tetamanshimba, who crossed over to the UPND then and lost his parliamentary seat.
“Hon. Tetamanshimba (deceased) lost his parliamentary seat in a similar manner if you recall honourable members,” the Speaker said.
Yes, just like Kariba Dam is vacant
The PF and its bunch of foools with their president will lose in 2016.
A very useless and biased speaker.
It gives an opportunity to UPND to test how popular GBM is in his constituency……….pwa ha ha ha.
So you mean this is calling for another by-election? Please Zambians lets be serious for once. No-wonder the currency cant improve because Pfools are big spenders. GBM is winning that election.
This speaker is the most useless Zambia has ever had. He thinks and behaves like he has no PhD in law. Why is he keeping other UPND MPs who were expelled from the party but they are still sitting in parliament?
There was no other way but to declare the seat vacant. It is equally beyond my comprehension as to why the UPND leadership failed to divert this unneccessary attention upon the party.
To an observer it only adds to what has surfaced as desperation by HH in recent months.
Undoubtedly GBM also showed desperate levels for power when he engaged in a power struggle with Kabimba only to be bruised when Sata failed to side with him.
GBM them came back after the demise of Sata with hoping to buy his way to the PF leadership. It backfired and he secured the least votes at the illegal gathering set up by Guy Scott.
HH and the UPND leadership have failed to see through GBM’s wallet and this, like the PF-UPND pact, is headed for doom.
Zambian politics need to mature and propel credible men
Iwe chi Hildah Malama, then school has not done you any good, go back and read some more idyot….what PHD malabishi!
This just expose how useless as a lawyer Jack Mwiimbu is. How come he allowed his president, Vice President and the highest decision making organ in the UPND look so stupid in this manner. This was not a political issue but a legal one hence the *****s in UPND have been crashed badly
And therein ladies and gentlemen lies the difference between power and money!
This again has exposed the inadequacies in our constitution. Mr Matibini has acted as a judge (he was on the bench before he became speaker. I think Mr Amusaa Mwanamwambwa being an educationist & journalist would have kept himself to the point of order.)
Does this take away GBM’s right to seek judicial review.
If GBM still has judicial recourse what’s going to happen if the courts rule in his favour.
In my humble opinion Mr Matibini’s ruling has created conflict between the legislature & the judiciary.
As for UPND they should fight this using all channels available otherwise I will accuse them of having caused a costly by election to test their popularity.
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It is clear that there was some understanding on this matter even before it was raised. The level of scheming going on in this country is unbelievable. What explains the tolerance by the Speaker for the opposition MPs serving as campaign managers against their own parties. Mr Speaker, these actions are not building the nation at all. Anyways, the current democracy we are practicing is for a ruling party directed democracy which is not helpful at all. The more reasons people can borrow with their eyes closed.
This situation is very un desirable in a democracy. It is an ethical for both UNDP MPs serving under PF and GBM to behave this way .The speaker could have helped by not being biased by simply declaring all seats vacant, but he has shown us that he is not neutral. This decision will have bad implication when PF loses election next and become an Opposition party HH will use this ruling to appoint PF MPs in his cabinet. This should not go on Zambians should condemn illegality no matter it is from ruling or Opposition party.
How ever GBM and HH should prepare very well for Kasama as it is going to be a show down. Should PF lose Kasama that will spell doom to LUNGU in 2016.PF should not under estimate GBM I am sure he has done his home work.
This speaker is the dullest Zambia has ever had since independence despite being educated.
I think he got his PHD through cutting and pasting other people’s work. More especially if he got it from the USA.
Siamunene , Monde, and two others whose names I have forgotten were expelled from UPND but the dull speaker can not declare their seats vacant why?
They know that, PF can not win those seats even if they throw a sink at it.
GBM will win the Kasama seat come what may. PF has made a grave mistake to dare GBM on this one. For first time UPND will win a seat in PF strong hold.
What a useless speaker. He is a big foul like Edgar Chakolwa
It is HH,GBM and your father who are STUPID F00LS! They knew that they will lose the legal argument and consequently cause a bye erection. STUPID *****S. LET MWAMBA NOW CONTEST AND SEE IF HE CAN WIN.
I seriously doubt you hold any PhD even the Dr. Med you are talking about. You just insult and cannot argue intelligently the way any lawyer of educated person would do. You are either out of your depths or are just a straight Chainama case. If non-Zambians were to read your postings and hear that you are an educated person as you are claiming they would begin to wonder about the quality of education in Zambia that produces graduates who only insult and cannot put forward an argument.
Chi HILDER mukanwa ukununka nga public toilet ya ma laddies,what do you know about politics, just waite and see viva a lungu
HH and UPND have been shown again how foolish they are. Surely, if you call HH educated and intelligent, how can he fail to read the Constitution. How many times is he likely to mislead and bend the Constitution when he and if he becomes president.
HH has done what he is good at, plagirism. This was his trade mark at UNZA. Records are there to show. He was even suspended.
Malama, sorry, the Speaker has hit you in the balls. Try iron balls for 2016.
VERY GOOD JUDGEMENT BY THE SPEAKERS. HH IS VERY DESPERATE WHILE GBM DID NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT HE DID WAS ILLEGAL DUE TO LACK OF MEANINGFUL EDUCATION. WHEN YOU MAKE TOO MUCH MONEY MY ADVICE TO EVERYONE IS THAT YOU SHOULD BE SPONSORING YOURSELVES TO COLLEGE OR UNIVERSITY TO GET SOME EDUCATION IN ORDER FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND THE ENVIRONMENT IN WHICH YOU LIVE AND PERHAPS EVEN UNDERSTAND YOURSELVES. GBM HAS MORE THAN ENOUGH MONEY TO SPONSOR HIMSELF AT UNZA, NIPA OR EVELYN HONE COLLEGE. OTHERWISE, HOW WOULD ONE EXPECT AND BELIEVE THAT HE COULD, NOT ONLY BE A MEMBER OF 2 POLITICAL PARTIES BUT EVEN HOLD VERY INFLUENTIAL POSITIONS IN BOTH?
Dont forget that the speaker is a paid up member of the Membe Cartel. So today you will start insulting him just like the way Zambian Watchdog now licks the baksides of GBM and Masebo they once insulted?
Iwe hilda, even your place where you stay is bitter and disgruntled. A person with bitter ness all the time.
Wanya ayakaba Hilda Malama Mafi! You will keep on being disgruntled until we bury your louse body!
There is no need to continue wasting time GBM. Take them on…….Now the proper politics has started.
Take note of my name! Now you will see who is famous in Kasama… GBM or PF.
The PF will only relinquish power in Zambia after he who will take over from Lungu has served two 5 year terms!!
@Peter,
How can GBM sponsor himself to UNZA or college when he stopped school in Grade 6? The character is a grade 6!
Goodbye to Zambian politics, for good, Fat Albert!
Wapya munzi. GBM, show us that na bachepa Sana
Hilda Malama be objective, it’s people like you that your party very unpopular! The constitution is clear on such a matter, GBM and HH caused this bye election and please don’t blame it on honourable Patrick Matibini! Let the battle begin!
@ 6 flag; If UPND loses I will resign-Garry Nkombo
In the first place, who told you that my not being objective? My friend you are very fooolish just like Edgar Kachasu Lungu and your useless speaker.
By the way, who are you to school me on constitutional matters?
My husband holds a PHD in Law while i have a PHD in the same feild despite being a medical Doctor.
I repeat, you are a big foool just like yo drunkard.
Ahh then you chi Hildah Malama really wasted your time at school because all you picked are insults…what a waste! And I wonder why a man who has a PHD can have a useless person like you for a wife. You are the most repugnant blogger to have dirted this site..get a life!
What about those MPs expelled from UPND what is the position of Matibini? Fairness must be seen to be given to all. In as much as the president has a privilege to appoint Mps to sit as ministers this does not stop the Mps from being expelled from their sponsring parties. In this case UPND did that to their two Mps but the Speaker has not acted for two years now. What does that show? That he is a foool.
Gbm should learn a lesson because he thinks that when he has got money is a ticket enough for him to violate the constitution of the land.Galu iwe!who are you that you can be making noise in this country?Kaponya iwe?matako yako!imbecile
I support the move though it exposes the unfairness of our politics. Let GBM campaign with a free conscience. He will battle for the mantle as a soldier on a siege; no escape route but to conquer. You can never promote change by being double minded. Focus, go on a strategic path and conquer. If he loses the Kasama seat, it will just ignite more energy and concentration. But PF should NEVER ever make a mistake of fielding Emmanuel Mwamba.
Tit for tat. Let the speaker declare declare the seats of UPND MPs serving in govt as vacant. What a useless speaker? Nothing wrong in what HH and GBM did. GBM take this speaker and his useless PF to court and demand the dissolution of all opposition party members serving in PF.
IWE WE CHIPUBA THE CONSTITUTION ALLOWS THE PRESIDENT TO APPOINT ANY MEMBER OF PARLIAMENT AS MINISTER , BUT THESE KACHEMAS WHICH SCHOOL DO YOU PEOPLE GO TO? AMANO BUNONO KWATI NI N’GOMBE IYINYELA NAPO ISENDAMA!
Team GBM and HH, No time to look back. Our country is in shumbles so please fight them your lungs out. These desperate thieves are ruining this country under RB.
hey this is my identity!
we chipumbu we those have not joined another political party.
The UPND MPs’ case is in the courts while GBM withdrew his case thereby exposing himself to instant expasion.His accepting the Vice-Presidency of UPND has even complicated his position as the law does not condone double political membership.
DONT BE DULL. THE UPND CONSTITUTION STATES CLEARLY THAT THE POSTS OF VICE PRESIDENT SHALL ONLY BE OCCUPIED BY A PAID UP MEMBER OF UPND. AND THE ZAMBIAN CONSTITUTION DOES NOT ALLOW DUAL MEMBERSHIP BY AN MP. THOSE UPND MPS YOU ARE REFERING TO ARE SERVING IN GRZ AND NOT IN PF.
THE HON. SPEAKER HAS GOT IT WRONG!!!
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1. Hon. Vincent Mwale campaigned for the PF in the just ended Chipata Central Constituency.
2. Hon. Micheal Kaingu campaigned for the PF in the Mulobezi bye elections.
3. Hon. Poniso Njeulu has been campaigning for the PF throughout the period he was appointed as deputy Minister.
Al the above I have sighted crossed the floor by campaigning for a party under which name they were not elected to the National Assembly. In law, there is “actual” and “constructive” crossing of the floor. GBM did not resign from the PF. He has been “deemed” to have resigned by virtue of accepting the Vice Presidency of the UPND. All the Hon. MPs who campaigned OR are campaigning for the UPND or the PF must have their seats…
GBM campaigned for HH in the last election but was not chased from Parliament. The mistake was to accept a constitutional position on the UPND ticket. Strategic error.
An opposition MP can share the thoughts of the running government or party and support their motions. He does not need to have a position in the Governing political party. He can even vote for those motions they present. I think its fair competition to do so.
There are so many MMD MPs that campaigned for HH in the last election, but are still MPs like GBM, Mutati, Chituwo, Musokotwane etc. But they never lost seats, just like MMD MPs like Siliya, Namugala and Kaingu also campaigned for EL. Ask yourself why they all never lost their seats. To ask a more rhetorical question, Is it not because they did not take up party positions in these parties whose party presidential candidates they campaigned for? Or, do you want all these MPs to lose their seats? Come on, GBM took up a party position in UPND signalling his crossing the floor. The speaker is therefore right to stop him from eating with both hands.
No sir, the three opposition members serving in government are on a call of duty, they did not cross the floor. they still belong to their respective parties assuming the parties are not cross with them. When they were invited to campaign, they had an option to refuse but thought it otherwise by chosing to obey the command of the tour of duty nd therefore campaign for the ruling party in their own respective backyards. To me this was a poor strategy on the part of PF and so UPND and MMD can contest this decision in a court of law and win themselves some valuable cash.
Indicate the law on which you base your conclusion.The speaker quoted at length all relevant constitutional provisions including those provided under the Society’s Act which govern registration of political parties.Challenge the Speaker with legal quotations and not pakamwa chabe baba.
mmmmmm….I think the speaker got it all wrong. The Zambian constitution demands that there shall be three arms of government. The Legislature, Executive and the Judiciary. Matibini belongs to the Legislature and there for he over stepped the his powers. Leave the issues of the courts to the courts and continue guiding Parliament in making laws and not nullifying parliamentary seats. GBM must take on the speaker in the courts of law for rapping the constitution. No Dr. Matibini……you made a mistake. Are you allowed to pass judgment on the issues of the High Court? I have a feeling you are a PF cadre!!!!
THE HON. SPEAKER HAS GOT IT WRONG!!!
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1. Hon. Vincent Mwale campaigned for the PF in the just ended Chipata Central Constituency.
2. Hon. Micheal Kaingu campaigned for the PF in the Mulobezi bye elections.
3. Hon. Poniso Njeulu has been campaigning for the PF throughout the period he was appointed as deputy Minister.
All the above I have sighted crossed the floor by campaigning for a party under which name they were not elected to the National Assembly. In law, there is “actual” and “constructive” crossing of the floor. GBM did not resign from the PF. He has been “deemed” to have resigned by virtue of accepting the Vice Presidency of the UPND. All the Hon. MPs who campaigned OR are campaigning for the UPND or the PF must have their seats…
They did not cross the floor dude. They did it from across the fence. They are smart.
Chanda Mwango, there was no by election in Chipata Central recently, the last one being under Sata.
Iwe ka Chanda Mwango ndiwe chibwi iwe… go back to night school. You cant understand basics in life. How do you earn a living . . . .selling vitubuwa!
Gbm has a history of losing elections whenever he stands against any Pf challenger. Joining the party of election losers makes it even hard for him to win.
There’s absolutely nothing special about fat Albert, he is just another businessman who once was cultivating cannabis. He won’t even any meaningful change in the UPND, Vice President for Adminstration! Oh my foot when did fat Albert become an administrator?
Now we see who is popular in Kasama between GBM and PF. I reminded of GBM what happened to him in Kabwata in 2006 against Given Lubinda. He will lose bicycles, mealie meal again and weight. There are no UPND MPs saving in PF Mwefipuba imwe. Let the games begin and this expensive bye election has been caused by HH.
Wanya ayakaba Hilda Malama Mafi! You will keep on being disgruntled until we bury your louse body!
Upnd you only respect the construction when it suits you . You maybe educated but it’s wastage
Meant constitution
The best for GBM is not stand for the by election because PF will use all arsenal in their power to make sure he loses in order to prove a point, the best is to keep away to leave them in suspense.
It is unfortunate that the Speaker Mr Matibini is blaming UPND for offering GBM Vice president post. GBM was not forced to have the post, its his constitutional right to accept or decline. Where is the rationale as things stand MMD and UPND members of parliament are serving in PF government and pay their allegiance to PF government. In the same vein their membership is with the opposion and the rulling by the speaker spikes common sense all because late president Sata cheated Zambians that causing by-elections is a tool for development. President Lungu too recently cheated in by-elections campaigns that development to those constituencies where elections are being held will come from statehouse. What cheap politics Zambians are subjected to is humiliating and dehuminising. Shame…
Those MMD and UPND MPS in governement have not crossed the floor. Just like GBM did not when he supported HH in the last elections. This time he did. The law allows the the Republican President to appoint any MP inti a GRZ position, regardless of their political party affiliation.
HH and UPND made a very serious and stupid political mistake. How could they not see this? Iam sure they did see it but wanted GBM at all cost and duped him. It will be devastating his losses that seat.
Money and riches do make one popular. It is siding with the poor, that does. This is the strength of EL and PF. HH and UPND is for the rich and affluent, who are the minority.
Matibini has no power in the Zambian constitution to nullify parliamentary seats. He got it wrong. LAZ must take him on for breaking the constitution of Zambia. THREE arms of government must work separately……separation of power. Matibini’s job is to guide the MP’s on the parliamentary procedures and not taking over the work of the courts(Judiciary)…..WRONG DECISION and therefore, an injunction must be put in place immediately.
@chanda mwango and the other dull full b4 you
Can you state when those people you have mentioned as working in govt joined pf and what positions in pf party they hold. Problem with upnd cadres is they are naturally dull. What katele said about you is the truth. Gbm and under5 thought they have fools mate Pf by appointing gbm not knowing it was an own goal they have scored. Upndown always miscalculating on political moves.
“You are too small ba PF” or
“Mwachepa sana ba PF” and
so GBM is quoted as saying.
Today’s Post has quoted him as saying that his money put PF in power, without elaborating which PF, Sata’s PF or Lungu’s PF befitted from his donation.
Its only the bye election which will tell us who put who in power!
Did the opposition expect that the Kasama PF seat to be held by a UPND card carrying member?
There is only one PF…..Sata’s PF is the only PF to talk about. ECL is PF/RB MMD. In any case ECL could have not been in existence if SATA’s PF never came into being. Hon. Katema must be regretting by now for singing a wrong song that ba Sata left the instruments of power with Chagwa. You see now Hon. Katema, you are just a poor minister of Chiefs. Who has heard your voice as a minister of Chiefs? Edgar humiliated you nicely…….you are nothing!!!!
To defend the constitution will always cost lot’s of money in any particular country we’ve got to grow in our understanding concerning politics and the constitution .This matter has been played fair by both party .Remember the govt will be a bad guy in such issues.
Shiwangandu Formula should go to Kasama now.
No UPND helicopter will land in Kasama
Iwee Chi Tutu I am a PF supporter, but no violence, PF will win fair and square just like the Malambo, Petauke and Mulobezi parliamentary election, except without the Mulobezi violence. Waufwa Tutus!
Very easy to be a F00L…….stone throwing in the 21st Centaury.
GBM is useless and has no brains just like the entire Up Down party. You can’t eat your cake, and have it too.
He has only become useless today. When he was spending money on PF he was an angel. yaba Zambians are amazing!!!!
@Aquilla
Plse familiarize yourself with the Republican Constitution as it is today.
5050: HH or GBM will be free to appoint PF members in his cabinet / government when he becomes president in 5050 to do Government work and not party work.
Are you God to say that? Are u the only voter in this land? Where is Sata today who you thought would rule for 20 years? Dont test God’s power.
What about Matibini? What does the constitution state about the work of a speaker? Is it to legislate, execute the laws or pass judgment?
Ba LT and fellow Zedian reporters; Reporting needs to be precise
I dont think Matibini said ” it was inconceivable that the UPND leadership gave Mr Mwamba a senior position when he was a committed PF member.”
What would make sense is to say Matibini said it was inconceivable that the UPND leadership would have given Mr Mwamba a senior position when he was a committed PF member.
The two sentences mean different things.
In my opinion, I wonder how one can serve heaven and hell at the same time. The speaker just interpreted what the constitution says. Notwithstanding, PF’s poaching from the UPND fold and offering them posts like Kaingu while still in the same party implies double standards and constitutional manipulation to say the least.
@Man Kenya
Kaingu holds a government position and not a party position in PF. We moved a long time away from the notion of the Party and its Government where the ruling party was one with the government in power. Why is this one-party hangover still lingering in some bloggers? Do you want to go back to Kaunda’s one-party state?
But the speaker can not nullify a Parliamentary seat. This is the work of the Courts(Judiciary).
I honestly can not understand how our friends in UPND think. Please differentiate govt appointments and political ones. The Deputy Ministers you keep refering to are serving the govt and the President by law has the powers to do so unlike political appointments with a party which is not in govt. The problem is that HH thinks he is the only wise person and compares himself to the Republican President and in his wishful thinking he feels he has the same powers as the Head of State when actually he has none at all. Accept that you are in opposition and your time to do what the current President is doing will come God willing, otherwise you faint with jealousy and pompousness.
Does it mean everyone disagreeing with Matibini is UPND? What kind of thinking is this?
This is why Lungu declined GBMs support. Don’t be surprised if he accuses HH of the same. The man is volatile
GBM kukosa nomba. Lelo lelo. Ukuteka kukosa. Learn from Edgar Lungu. he had to sit down and sits for Zayelo, and the like and today he is the President. kosafye mudala. The train has started off and it cannot be stopped within one second.
How?? GBM does not need bu MP like those PF MPs inchushi. he does not even need to be president. He is more comfortable than Chagwa.
Very true Mwina Zed. The other correct sentence could be: Matibini said it was inconceivable that the UPND leadership would give Mr Mwamba a senior position when he was a committed PF member.
Both correct sentences bring to the fore the speculative logic the speaker and judges are prone to use when ruling in a case like this.
GBM miscalculated big time. If he had defected to UNPD as vice president after dissolving parliament he would have made serious impact. But now, 2016 is so far, he will run out of steam and his impact will be very minimal.
My prediction is that he is going to lose the Kasama seat in the by election.
Good luck to all of you politicians!!!
GBM, you lost the opportunity to resign and now everything that will be happening will be reactive motivated. Kosa Uncle. Nkani yachinja. Anyway it is time to test RP to see if they are popular. I hear wynter kabimba is contesting Kasama central.
I thank God we have made a saving 1 less gratuity to pay.
I FUNDED HH TO WIN BUT THIS GUY CANNOT WIN I LOST MY MONEY MY MONEY MY MONEY MY MONEY
YOU HH MY MONEY MONEY I SPEND TOO MUCH AND YOU STILL CANNOT WIN
MY MONEY WITH GARY NKOMBO
Its true these guys are under fives, you mean u didn’t forsee this coming. You just talk a lot without reasoning or understanding what is on the ground. This also shows hw dull your president is. Edgar is very smart, gbm remember hw u lost in kabwe, coz u use your stomach to think and it seems u don’t learn and worse u have joined fellow blind men.
@Kapeya.
If he’s so comfortable why doesn’t he just take his vast fortune and disappear into a quiet and dignified retirement?
He is no longer relevant on the Zambian Political scene (except to UPND) and will just be embarrassed in Kasama.
I see UPND losing all the upcoming by-elections again
God has his own way of removing arrogant people from authority. Wait and see the humiliation gbm wl suffer. It’s sad. Does he listen to a still small voice kwena???? We wl camp in kasama from now until he is shown that money is not authority but God.
Zambias democracy is growing. One day the people will vote for candidates with a clear message to develop their consituencies. The law must be observed. I see nothing wrong with the ruling. GBM is now VP UPND and can not hold a seat he won under PF. Having said that I actually support him. The people of Kasama Central need him for development. He will win his seat back without a problem.
Last week when I listened to the press conference at which GBM was set to defect to UPND, Parallel and conflicting statements came out of HH and GBM and they were just misleading each other and their people. There are no such a thing has bringing to two political parties and HH and GBM should have known this.
GBM and UPND are in a very precarious situation. Loss of the impending Kasama by-election, with GBM as candidate or even without him, will be confirmation that GBM’s defection has added no value at all to the UPND. This may inexorably spell doom to both HH’s and GBM’s political careers as it will also confirm that neither HH nor GBM has the political judgment or wisdom required of a leader of a major political party.
Vincent Mwala was appointed as the chairman for elections in chipata was that not a position that warranted a crossing of the floor?
No one will answer this question because Matibini is a PF cadre. He has no authority by constitution to declare a seat vacant. This is the job for the judiciary(Courts)
THE TRUTH IS THAT ALL THOSE OPPOSITION MPs SERVING IN GRZ HAVE ACTUALLY CROSSED THE FLOOR. BUT THE LEGAL SYSTEM RELIES ON EVIDENCE. THE OTHER GUYS HAVE BEEN PLAYING IT SAFELY, SO THEY CAN STILL SAY THEY HAVE NOT JOINED THE PF. FOR EXAMPLE EVEN THEIR OWN PARTIES HAVE NOT EXPELLED THEM. THOSE EXPELLED HAVE GONE TO COURT AND THE MATTER IS IN THE COURTS OF LAW. IT IS CALLED EVIDENCE. CHILUBA STOLE BUT HE SURVIVED. RB ALSO STOLE HE HAS ALSO SURVIVED. ALL THESE THIEVES HAVE BEEN SMART. GBM WAS NOT SMART. THE POSITION OF VICE PRESIDENCE IN UPND IS A VERY SENIOR POSITION. YOU CANNOT JUST TAKE IT CARELESSLY AND THINK YOU CAN PLAY “CHA CHA CHA”WITH THE LAY.
Yaba! When we say UPND must change it’s strategy and get rid of a few HH groupies, all we get are insults from UPND cadres. Now this is a serious test for UPND and has the potential to cause a lot of problems internally.
Good. Wynter, just recently said on radio that GBM is now running around like a mad man. A lost man. A headless chicken. GBM had thot he was big. He thot he cld tell Sata what to do. When Sata ignored him, he ran away, using Chitimukulu as his excuse. When Wynter was fired he ran back to Sata, changing his story that he had run away bcoz of Wynter. When EL took the PF presidency he again ran away, this time to HH. Now after HH has amounted to nothing he comes back wanting to cling to a PF parliamentary seat. Awe! Go GBM. Its ova. U r a “run-away-guy”. No 1 trusts a run-away guy. Go to HH. Once HH knows who u r, u will run away again. Mayb to Mafikeng in South Africa, to yo mother’s family. Run away u will. Go u foreigner! Even yo behaviour is foreign. Yo looks r foreign, u look mammoth…
HH MUST DROP JACK MWIIMBU FOR MISLEADING ALL UPND FOLLOWERS!!for GBM i forgive him bcoz he is not educated hence he cant understand simple laws!!NOW GBM TOGETHER WITH HH WILL BE EMBARRASSED IN KASAMA BCOZ EVEN IF GBM SPENDS K10 MILLION OR PAY EACH UNDER EVERY KASAMA VOTER K500,HE WILL STILL 1,000% LOSE TO ANY PF CANDIDATE!!THIS IS A SAD DAY FOR UPND AND IT MAY BE BEGGING OF GBM’S END OF HIS POLITICAL CAREER!!PF will make sure GBM loses this seat and they will camp there at each and every polling central just to prove a point that PF is bigger than GBM or HH!! To make matters worse 80% of UPND MPs are from southern who’re not know in bembaland-so GBM will be alone against a army of PF bemba MPs!!GOD SAYS U RIP WHAT U SOW,SO GBM ASKED FOR THIS!
HH MUST DROP JACK MWIIMBU FOR MISLEADING ALL UPND FOLLOWERS!!for GBM i forgive him bcoz he is not educated hence he cant understand simple laws!!NOW GBM TOGETHER WITH HH WILL BE EMBARRASSED IN KASAMA BCOZ EVEN IF GBM SPENDS K10 MILLION OR PAY EACH AND EVERY KASAMA VOTER K500,HE WILL STILL 1,000% LOSE TO ANY PF CANDIDATE!!THIS IS A SAD DAY FOR UPND AND IT MAY BE THE BEGINING OF GBM’S END OF HIS POLITICAL CAREER!!PF will make sure GBM loses this seat and they will camp there at each and every polling central just to prove a point that PF is bigger than GBM or HH!! To make matters worse 80% of UPND MPs are from southern who’re not known in bembaland-so GBM will be alone against a army of PF bemba MPs!!GOD SAYS U RIP WHAT U SOW,SO GBM ASKED FOR IT!
You bet UPND lawyers and MPs are today whispering to each other over a glass of whisky : “The young man does not listen to advice, before 2016 this party will be dead”.
Is it just me thinking how ludiclous it is for our judges to still be wearing wigs.Blonde wigs to top it off.Some colonial carry overs must be done away with and maybe we will progress beyond our shortsighted visions concerning many other more important issues.To me this is an example and reflection of our contended state and notions blocking us to see beyond basics that formulate the thought process.Maybe thats why we still look to the west blonde headed nations for help and still indebted because from heads we want to be like them.
It would have been better for PF to keep GBM, but it seems PF cannot manage to run a political party. Or maybe it does not need to have a political party. Somehow they don’t need anyone except Edgar and RB and Dora…
It is not possible to keep GBM in PF because the law states clearly if any member of parliament crosses the floor. It cannot be fair to bend the law just because the party wants to maintain that particular member. Let GBM now test his popularity in Kasama Constituency whether his election to Kasama Constituency electorates loved the party (PF) or GBM.
GBM is the greatest loser. If HH wins he will be kicked out by Tongas or remain party vice president. Remember Emmanuel kasonde. If PF wins GBM will still cry. Lastly GBM cant work with HH
Only dull people like hilda Malama others can not see sense in what the speaker has ruled. Even puppy at home if gave the constitution to read just for a minute will understand that GBM and HH are as dull as they look. Just looking one can tell how desperate these fools see. Why are we even wasting time blogs on this issue. HH and his United Plenty Nonsense Devils (UPND) new the consequences of what they embarked on but because the do not care for our country they went ahead. Now let’s wait and see if GBM can stand and win back the seat. When he loses then that will be a good litmus test For the stupid opportunities UPND. NDESEKA FYI IN kikikikikikiki. …
Only dull people like hilda Malama others can not see sense in what the speaker has ruled. Even puppy at home if gave the constitution to read just for a minute will understand that GBM and HH are as dull as they look. Just looking one can tell how desperate these fools see. Why are we even wasting time blogs on this issue. HH and his United Plenty Nonsense Devils (UPND) new the consequences of what they embarked on but because the do not care for our country they went ahead. Now let’s wait and see if GBM can stand and win back the seat. When he loses then that will be a good litmus test For the stupid opportunities UPND. NDESEKA FYI IN kikikikikikiki. …
Elyo yaguwa
The speaker needs to stop wearing that silly wig–that is all part and parcel of the vestiges of the colonial era–it makes sense for a Caucasian person because their hair can grow that long, but they don’t get any more african than our speaker; we don’t have long hair–lose the wig, show some self respect man!
What a useless speaker. These are the fools destroying our country. You are a speaker who is not openly supposed to be biased. The whole world is watching you act like you in the 21 century, you chasing away investors and financiers.Besides GBM has a right to take his case to the courts and if he wins you will look foolish. Foolish PF carders that seat is not vacant, GBM with the kind of money, which none of you have will fight to the bitter end. He helped you, time for him to help somebody else. He is smart too
People like Vincent Mwale is still Mp for Chipangali under MMD but serving as a Minister in Goverment. The Honorable Minister hasn’t crossed the floor in anyway. Jack Mwiimbu is a seasoned lawyer but chose to ignore our republican constitution for political expediency. UPND should play mature politics. Just saying.
That is exactly the point – Matibini should have stopped at barring GBM from parliamentary business and REFERRED the matter to High Court. Now this is easy: UPND should go full-Monty and give their deputy minister MPs 48 hours to vacate their government Posts or face Expulsion since the NMC has rescinded their secondment to government; The president CANNOT ORDER Opposition MPs into his government! Then we’ll go all the way judicially upto the Supreme Court if need be! Yawama Bola iyo !
@Charlie diaspora
Parliament has its rules and cannot wait to be told by the courts what to do. What Speaker Dr. Matibini has done is very much in line with the principle of the separation of powers. It will now be up to the courts to interpret the laws as requested for by GBM and prove whether or not speaker Matibini’s ruling is consistent with the constitution. This will be a way of demonstrating horizontal accountability of the legislature and the judiciary to each other.
@zedoc:
Matibini CANNOT declare the Kasama seat vacant! UPND must set a concluding precedent and withdraw their government Ministers, no Nabulyato mine-sweeper rulings here: the supreme court must then rule for posterity…Matibini’s Action “as reported” is ultra vires and incontinent.
You must be “the only Jew in Jerusaleum” for not realising that most UPND MPs serving in GRZ are having court cases due to expulsion? However, for GBM, that is water under the bridge as seat has already been declared vacant by the speaker of the National Assembly.
Do MPs take time to understand the Republican constitution? Most of them may read but cannot understand. Thumbs up to the Speaker for making such a mouth watering ruling. Indeed this is a learning point to other MPs who think the constitution does not work. The sad thing is we will lose yet more money through a by-election all because of selfish individuals who are desperate for fame. This by-election could have been avoided if the former MP spent the rest of his time in Kasama with the electorate.
Shame that the Hon. Speaker when “…making such a mouth watering ruling…” did forget that according to Art. 63(1)(c) he, as the Speaker of the National Assembly has “only” legislative powers and as such (with his “Ruling”) has encroached on the powers of the Judicature as clearly defined by Art. 91(2)(3) and Art. 92(1) of the Constitution.
I would not be surprised that his “Ruling” will be subject of Judicial Review, not the content but his non existing “powers” to “interpret” the Constitution which is conferred to the Supreme Court of Zambia.
You are right when you question MP capability to understand and correctly interpret Constitution, but it looks that Hon. Speaker suffers from same “malaise”.
@Born Free, such are comments we expect to read not the shallow rubb!sh from the likes of Hildah Malama!
UPND-HH and GBM are just a bunch of dull creatures. If a grade 1 can know the consequences of GBM bacoming a UPND VP , what more the self proclaimed only educated people in Zambia? UPND has again shown its dullness and lack of intelligent strategy. They have turned into the ” CHIMBWI NO PLAN ” proper.
What take do our learned Profs Ndulo and Hansungule have on this? Enough verbal-pangas have been weilded 🙂
These UPND chaps do not understand the law and if they were given chance to rule Zambia by mistake,they will take the country backwards again by ten years.ECL has impressed me with the establishment of marines in our vast waters in Luapula……people like mulongoti,nawakwi and others can’t see.All they are interested in is just to yapp,yapp !
pipo please educate me ,I thought the speaker only declares a seat after a particular political party has written to it ?and is he empowered to interpret the law on when a seat becomes vacant?
Yes, he is empowered and he is the only one who can declare a seat vacate as per our constitution. This speaker is the most qualified this country has ever had.
See b elow please.Below is a list of Speakers of the National Assembly of Zambia:
Name Entered office Left office
Wesley Pillsbury Nyirenda 1964 – 1968
Robinson Mwaake Nabulyato 1969 – 1988
Fwanyanga Matale Mulikita 1988 – 1991
Robinson Mwaakwe Nabulyato 1991 – 1998
Amusaa K. Mwanamwambwa 1998 – 2011
Dr. Patrick Matibini 2011 – present
No Matibini can not declare a seat vacant until the supreme court first does so………..Please very quickly…..COURT INJUCTION to shame Matibini for breaking the constitution openly.