THE United Party for National Development (UPND) has the potential to divide the country because of its consistent tribal remarks, Chief Government spokesperson Chishimba Kambwili has said.
Mr Kambwili said it was unfortunate that UPND and some traditional leaders always made tribal references on various matters.
Mr Kambwili, who is Information and Broadcasting Services minister, was reacting to statements that the Government had retrenched senior civil servants, especially police officers who were perceived to be supporters of the UPND and were also Tongas.
UPND president Hakainde Hichilema said on his Facebook posting this week that the party continued receiving reports of a number of civil servants, especially in the police service, teachers, health workers and others claiming victimisation for their alleged allegiance to the opposition party.
Chief Mukuni was quoted in yesterday’s edition of The Post newspaper claiming that senior police officers who had been retired in national interest on the Copperbelt were dismissed from their work because of they were Tonga.
[pullquote]Mr Kambwili said it could have happened that 70 per cent of those retired were Tongas and Lozis[/pullquote]
Mr Kambwili, however, said the Government was not fixing anyone based on which region they hailed from.
The minister said it was unfortunate that UPND and some traditional leaders continued to make tribal references whenever they were aggrieved.
“UPND is a very dangerous organisation because it keeps making tribe an issue. The issue of tribe is paramount in every debate for them,” Mr Kambwili said.
He said given an opportunity to rule the country, UPND could do Zambia a de-service by dividing the nation.
Mr Kambwili said that UPND and any traditional leader should stop making such remarks that had the potential to divide the country.
He said the Government retired some senior police officers recently in a bid to reorganise the service.
Mr Kambwili said it could have happened that 70 per cent of those retired were Tongas and Lozis because naturally, historically, more Tongas and Lozis have been employed in the service in the past years.
This was because the Police Service was more prominent in Southern and Western provinces when it started in Zambia.
Mr Kambwili also said the Government would not fail to reorganise the public sector for fear of being seen to be victimising people. He urged Zambians to dismiss tribal utterances because they had the potential to destroy peace in the country.
Mr Kambwili said Government wanted all Zambians to be happy because there was no tribe which was superior to the other.
The Government had said that people should not be misled by politicians who were going round taking advantage of the country’s economic hardships saying that the ruling party has failed to govern. Mr Kambwili said the Government acknowledged the economic challenges the country was going through and it was doing everything to ensure that the economy was back to normal.
He said the challenges that the country was facing was as a result of the drop in copper prices on the global market.
Mr Kambwili said that Zambia’s economy depended on copper and that diversification was needed to strengthen it.
I agree with Kambwili that Police service, including Zambia army, was most dominated by Lozis and Tongas, and still is, that’s the ZP are so brutal… Bembas as usual stayed in Copperbelt as bus-callboys (ba kaponya), drinking and stealing like crazy. If a ZP want to get to bottom of investigations, they better ask a drunk Bemba woman, go straight to Mumbi Phiri she will tell it all.
“Mr Kambwili said it could have happened that 70 per cent of those retired were Tongas and Lozis because naturally, historically, more Tongas and Lozis have been employed in the service in the past years.This was because the Police Service was more prominent in Southern and Western provinces when it started in Zambia.”….well articulated Mr Kambwili. The same thing can happen at ZRA, ACC, UNZA,Mulungushi University e.t.c because Tongas are more prominent……..as for how it came to be,that’s for another debate.
“Mr Kambwili said it could have happened that 70 per cent of those retired were Tongas and Lozis because naturally, historically, more Tongcas and Lozis have been employed in the service in the past years.This was because the Police Service was more prominent in Southern and Western provinces when it started in Zambia.”….well articulated Mr Kambwili. The same thing can happen at ZRA, ACC, UNZA,Mulungushi University e.t.c because Tongas are more prominent……..as for how it came to be,that’s for another debate.
There goes the big fat air-head. Kambwili, please tell the nation why the Police Officers were sacked?
The problem with Bemba tribal¡sts like Chimbwili is that they are at the forefront of victimisation of other ethnic groups. When the others protest the victimisation, the Bembas turn around and claim that the victims are threatening to divide “the nation” by exposing Bemba tribal¡sm. These Bembas are dangerous; they are the Hutus of Zambia. Look at Burundi. Bembas should be kept from corridors of power forever. They are masters of chaos.
@Nostradamus
Kekekekeke! So kambwili is saying that bembas are historically thieves, lozis and Tongas were employed in numbers to catch them….,, after all mumbi Phiri might be right about kachemas
This is how the Shiites in Iraq created ISIS. They fired all the Sunnis from the Army and Police and now look what is on how plates. Lungu continue kissing up to Bembas and Bantu Botatwe will come together and we shall have a divided Zambia.
Kekekeke! So kambwili is saying that bembas are historically thieves, so lozis and tongas were employed in numbers police officers to catch them……..
Don’t be surprised if the former Tonga and Lozi security forces come together and use their experience to create something deadly. Pf you are creating one.
So Nostradamus you are so antiballistic in you response here. I think Kambwili is more diplomatic than you … he is more mature compared to your blatant insults based on tribe… calling a whole tribal grouping (ba kaponya), drinking and stealing like crazy. Is this the calibre we expect from you noble UPND supporters. Is this the future of Zambia. Are the Bembas who are in the majority expected to drop their heads and support a Tonga for president after reading your blog. Bemba will continue to dominated Zambia no matter you insults and hatred… you will never rule Zambia with this kind of Tribalism…Never. Not until you stop insulting Bembas.
Top of the list of those who were fired are Peacewell Mweemba (Tonga), the Deputy Commissioner of police in-charge of the School of Public Order Maintenance, Kamfinsa Mobile Unit in Kitwe and Senior Superintendent in-charge of operations at Kamfinsa identified as Ms. Rose Mwiimbu (Tonga), and Pethias Siandenge (Tonga), who was in-charge of traffic in Ndola District among others.
I have time and again said it here that what ever gibberish any PF stooge spews the total opposite is the absolute truth.
When ever PF minions feel threatened by UPND ‘s ever growing political fortunes they cry tribalism and yet for the first time in the history Zambia PF had an all Bemba cabinet and justified it. If Zambians could not see that as mare tribalism, then Zambians are a million miles away from civilization.
Whether PF likes it or not Kuyabebel in 2016.
2016 please vote UPND to restore Zambia.
The uncompromised genuine Church with no fear or favor should step up and provide guidance to the nation.
@Change
If Tongas & Lozis dominate Zambia Police Zambia Army, ZAF, ZRA, ACC, UNZA,Mulungushi University how come the heads or Commanders of these institutions are mostly Nyanja or Bemba Speaking? Apart from Zambia Police that had Zunga Siakalima, Darius Kalebo (Tongas) & Stella Libongani(Lozi), Ngangula(Luvale) & F Kabonde & Mateyo(Kaonde) As IGs & Generals Malimba Masheke(Lozi) ,Chinkuli (Lenje) & Paul Mihova(Luvale) as Army Commanders as well as Shikapwasha (Lenje) & Sunday Kayumba (Kaonde) as ZAF commanders.
The rest have rotated around Nyanja & Bemba Speaking people namely: Generals P Zuze, Christon Tembo, Nobby Simbeye, Mibenge, Sakala, Mumbi, Chisuzi, Musengule, Chimense, Garry Kalenge, Hanniah lungu & IG Martin Malama have headed ZA & ZAF & ZP.
Lameck Goma, Jacob Mwanza,…
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@Change
If Tongas & Lozis dominate Zambia Police Zambia Army, ZAF, ZRA, ACC, UNZA,Mulungushi University how come the heads or Commanders of these institutions are mostly Nyanja or Bemba Speaking? Apart from Zambia Police that had Zunga Siakalima, Darius Kalebo (Tongas) & Stella Libongani(Lozi), Ngangula(Luvale) & F Kabonde & Mateyo(Kaonde) As IGs & Generals Malimba Masheke(Lozi) ,Chinkuli (Lenje) & Paul Mihova(Luvale) as Army Commanders as well as Shikapwasha (Lenje) & Sunday Kayumba (Kaonde) as ZAF commanders.
The rest have rotated around Nyanja & Bemba Speaking people namely: Generals P Zuze, Christon Tembo, Nobby Simbeye, Mibenge, Sakala, Mumbi, Chisuzi, Musengule, Chimense, Garry Kalenge, Hanniah lungu & IG Martin Malama have headed ZA & ZAF & ZP.
Lameck Goma,…
@Change – THE LIAR
Lameck Goma, Jacob Mwanza, Stephen Simukange, Mubanga Kashoki, Naison Ngoma, Mutale Musonda etc have run UNZA & CBU. Msiska & Chriticles Mwansa at ZRA. Only Kasuka Mwauluka(Lozi) headed UNZA & V Chinene(Tonga) headed Mulungushi.
Pliz add to the list if u hav any facts.
So u see the statement is not true. Lozis & Tongas don’t dominate these institutions. Its only a ploy to continue discrimination against them. Argue with facts if uhav any like I hav done?
KAMBWILI YOU ARE A VERY BIG FOOL. AFTER HAULING A LOT OF TRIBAL INSULTS TO THE TONGAS, TONGA TRADITIONAL LEADERS AND UPND YOU EXPECT THEM TO JUST KEEP QUIET WHEN IT IS YOU WHO PROVOKED THEM. IS THIS GUY NORMAL? WHEN YOU WERE INSULTING TONGAS WITH ALL SORTS OF TRIBAL INSULTS DIDN’T YOU GUYS IN PF KNOW THAT YOU WERE AWAKENING THE SLEEPING LION? DIDN’T YOU KNOW THAT YOUR TRIBAL REMARKS AGAINST TONGAS HAD POTENTIAL TO DIVIDE THE NATION? HAVE YOU JUST COME OUT OF SLUMBER? IT IS VEY UNFORTUNATE THAT PF IS FULL OF SLEEPING ON DUTY FELLOWS.
KAMBWILI IS NOT NORMAL. AFTER HAULING A LOT OF TRIBAL INSULTS TO THE TONGAS, TO TONGA TRADITIONAL LEADERS AND TO UPND YOU EXPECT THEM TO JUST KEEP QUIET WHEN IT IS YOU WHO PROVOKED THEM. IS THIS GUY NORMAL? WHEN YOU WERE INSULTING TONGAS WITH ALL SORTS OF TRIBAL INSULTS DIDN’T YOU GUYS IN PF KNOW THAT YOU WERE AWAKENING THE SLEEPING LION? DIDN’T YOU KNOW THAT YOUR TRIBAL REMARKS AGAINST TONGAS HAD POTENTIAL TO DIVIDE THE NATION? HAVE YOU JUST COME OUT OF SLUMBER? IT IS VERY UNFORTUNATE THAT PF IS FULL OF SLEEPING ON DUTY FELLOWS. KAMBWILI STOP ACCUSING INNOCENT PEOPLE. YOU ARE THE AGGRESSORS, WHILE TONGAS ARE THE VICTIMS.
I agree with Kambwili that ZP, including Zambia army, was most dominated by Lozis and Tongas, and still is, that’s the ZP are so brutal… Bembas as usual stayed in Copperbelt as bus-callboys (ba kaponya), drinking and stealing like crazy. If a ZP want to get to bottom of investigations, they better ask a drunk Bemba woman, go straight to Mumbi Phiri she will tell it all.
Kambwili just had to speak. No body was asking him anything. No! he had to open his mouth. Poor president Lungu, he as to deal with statements by Chama, Lady Mumbi and miniater Kambwili. All on a Monday. Seriously Monday.
Firing senior police officers 70% of whom are from one region is tribal no matter how you look at it.A wise government wouldn’t have made such a move at a time like this.We would like to see the records that Zambia Police are mostly made up of Tongas and Lozis
How can anybody comment on “statement” issued by absolute 1mbecile?
Kambwili the mouthpiece!
You are a tribalist yoself. It is u who always use tribe as a weapon to fight the opposition. Ba govt spokesman, why cant u be real sometimes? Every time u open yo mouth rubbish comes out. Your level is that of a counsellor not minister.
It could be that HH himself is a very good leader. But the people of Southern province. Awee…!!! Niyoopa maningi because if by chance HH became president, awe sure, all Tongas would be presidents also. Our State House would also be hijacked by Tonga empire. That is why i could not vote for a Tonga in State House. May be in future when Zambia becomes civilized like America.
Imbwa iwe!
Your fears are unfounded and you are simply tribalistic and myopic. Do you think Tongas are so power hungry than what people have already seen from previous and current regime. Do you think it is good for this country to discriminate others on account of tribe. Do you think that this kind of discrimination is the sustainable way of keeping peace in this country. Continue thinking and acting like this and see where you will take your country. You have no reasons not trust your fellow country men if you understand national unit. If it is good to have Some Tongaz as Ministers, BOZ Governors and they deliver what is wrong to have them as presidents. Don’t be selfish because you will destroy this country. It is for all Zambians and not only your tribe.
Its correct for all Tongas to vote HH and wrong for other tribes to vote their own. No PF material or masg in southern but UPND material can be found anywhere. These are the pipo you want to be presidents. lets safe Bembas from mascre by saying no to Tongas untill they grow
@peter I have always warned you guys not to play with tribalism.Tribalism has been there for a very long time in Zambia.one white man documented it but this book can not be found in Zambia.I had a chance to read it when I was in university in Zimbabwe.It is a shame that it has continued despite same level of inter marriages and education.To be particular Chiluba and Sata both Bemba dialects planted a bad seed of tribalism.Sata went feather to institutionalize it.The Tongas,Lozis,Kaondes,Luvales,Mbundas and such people have victims of tribalism since Independence.Kaunda made sure Nyanja was used as media of instruction at Lilayi police college.Chiluba through Pro Mubanga Kashoki come with a document called the Bembanisation of Zambia.Sata come to implement.
Top of the list of those who were fired is Peacewell Mweemba (Tonga), the Deputy Commissioner of police in-charge of the School of Public Order Maintenance, Kamfinsa Mobile Unit in Kitwe and Senior Superintendent in-charge of operations at Kamfinsa identified as Ms. Rose Mwiimbu (Tonga), and Pethias Siandenge (Tonga), who was in-charge of traffic in Ndola District among others.
Peter, everytime I’m about to step up to UPND the comments from the supporters threaten me. I really believe most Tongas believe that HH ruling will give them an opportunity to have an upper hand compared to other tribes, but I know this is not true but simply their own misconception and perception. However, is it safe to allow this kind of thinking and the lot that believe in it? That really scares the living lights out of me, fairly or not!
Even bringing up issues like those fired were mostly Tongas and Lozis is very scary. We need to be more sensitive and stop analysing everything with tribal spectacles.
Yes,
Jambia cam be prunjed into sivil warfere under oppojisaan.
Keep on support PF guys.
Jambia will develope.
Edgar Lungu’s decision to appoint this useless Roan MP as a minister was a grave error; Kambwili has always divided Zambian tribes therefore he is a danger to our peace and stability.Kambwili,Davies Chama,Mumbi Phiri and Mwenya Musenge are bent on causing chaos in the nation; Edgar Lungu should tame these characters urgently.
The only way to tame them is by ensuring that PF is kicked out come 2016! Chimbwili prove your reorganisation of ZP by pointing out what failings those fired had in their duties!!!
Once again the tribal tag is up..How long shall we be using this tag whenever we are challenged by opposition or citizens? Honestly am sick of this tag.It shows a lack of civilization.Govt should rise to address the many problems the country is facing than wasting time debating on tribes.
Indeed sickening!
@Tia. I am equally tired of this tribal talk. Discuss serious issues concerning welfare of people.
Comment: Chishimba is a fool!.How do u retire police officers at this crucial period of the time?.U will call us all sorts of names, bt sori to tell u that we are not moving backwards.We are very focused and determined.Yo hate 4 will one day kill u!.
Mumbi spoke on tribal, then Chambishi spoke about Katimba hiring thugs, kambwili as usual not to be be outdone also speaks…..what a way to develop the country with such Kind of divisive statements from the “none tribal leaders”! Now awaiting Sunday Chanda to speak…..
You forgot to mention chama, he will not like to be outdone.
Kambwili, I miss your ultimatums, please just give them an ultimatum and “heads will roll”. You gave ultimatum to the mine-owners, and it worked.
Mumbi spoke on tribal, then Chama spoke about Katimba hiring thugs, kambwili as usual not to be be outdone also speaks…..what a way to develop the country with such Kind of divisive statements from the “none tribal leaders”! Now awaiting Sunday Chanda to speak…..
You forgot to mention Chama, he will not like to be outdone.
in the US if 70% of any company employees retreached are black,then its purely racism and a civil lawsuit may follow,so in zambia since 2011 the pf has played the tonga tribal tag ,the pf govt should have handled this matter with sensitivity.
This man is a blood liar.most of government senior officers and junior civil servants in western perceived either to be Tongas or in support of opposition have been transfered back to southern.we know that,and thats true.PF is the one dividing the country.
YOU SEE HON KAMBWILI SOME OF US HAVE LIVED AMONG THE LOZI AND THE TONGA THEY ARE TRIBAL BY NATURE AND HH KNOWS THIS AND HE THINKS THEY WILL GIVE HIM THE PRESIDENCY BUT WE ALL KNOW THAT ZAMBIA IS TOO BIG AND WE KNOW THAT WHETHER 5 YEARS KIDS ARE REGISTERED AS VOTERS PF WILL STILL WIN IN 2016.
MY APPEAL IS THAT LET THE POLICE DEAL MERCILESSLY WITH HH AND HIS GBM WHO TAKES VIOLENCE WHERE EVER HE GOES. LET ALSO THE POLICE DEAL WITH UPND CADRES SO THAT OTHER YOUTHS CAN LEARN THAT IT DOES NOT PAY TO BE USED AND ABUSED BY POLITICAL LEADERS.
AS FOR THE TONGAS THEY WILL STILL CRY IN 2016. GOD BLESS
LUSAKA TIMES YOU ARE BECOMING UPND CADRES WHERE IS MY MESSAGES
All those civil servant who are active in politics let them be fired regardless which region thy are coming from,parties thy come and go but the civil servant will always be there.
Comment:YOUR EXERLLENCE U ZAMBIA FREE CORRUPTION POLICE,DEC ALL R CORRUPT ANY TRUCK LOADED WITH CEMENT DESTINED FOR KASUMBALESA PAY K100 For MealIe MEAL K50 AT CHECKPOINT WHEN IT REACH KASUMBALESA WE 50 DOLLERS WHERE IS MORE MONEY INPOCKETS WE REPORTED TO OFFICER COMMANDER IN CHILILABOMBWE ITS NOW BAD HELP US THESE R PROPER UPND INFACT WE HEAR OFFICERS THRU SAME SMUGGLING BOT A VEHICLE 200 TRUCKS CROSSES HELP US YOUR EXERLLENCE ECL PF 2016
Kambwili it is right for you to speak tribal remark on Tonga OR UPND,but it is wrong for Tonga to so on PF/BEMBA. This is injustice which God is against, no wonder you have faced difficult to rule because you don’t have blessings from God. As party in power, you are supposed blame anyone from pf and upnd with tribal remarks, then God will bless you . You start tribal remark to UPND /Tongas and when they respond you accuse them of tribalism. God will answer the victimized in an appropriate time. Use this power to unite the tribes. Every chief has the right to protect his subjects, If Tongas are victimized by the ruling part , don’t expect a normal chief to smile. Unity is part of development ,without it we cant unite. Tongas gave power to KK if you don’t know, in 1991 Tonga gave…
Kambwili, its you who is tribal. Whats wrong in Chief Mukuni’s findings? Me am a Namwanga by tribe and i have seen nothing tribal, its just a complaint against tongas and lozis. Kambwili, people of Zambia have already decided that HH is the man to lead in 2016.
Comment:ITS TRUE AT TIMES WE LEAVE CEMENT TO ZP DRIVING GREEN CAR AT ROAD BLOCK ECL FOLLOW THOSE ZP ARE AGAINST YOUR POLICIES FRACITRATING YOUR EFFORTS
Kekekeke! So kambwili is saying bembas are historically thieves that’s why 70% lozis and tongas were historically employed
Imwe ninshi what’s wrong with the PF? everytime kambwili, mumbi phiri, davis chama open their mouths, its tribal talk and only targeting at one political party and province..this tribal stench they are peddling is becoming too nauseating to say the least. It seems this tribalism is deeply embeded in the modus operandi and DNA of the trio. Why do we get such statements from PF members like lubinda, luo, katema and many other PF members? Where is the leadership of the PF to quell a potential civil war which these elements are slowly but surely courting? PF is a gud party but these characters are denting its image…let something be done.
PF practice tribalism but accuse others of tribalism. They pay lip service to tribalism but practice it. The firing of all tonga officers is a good example of tribalism. PF is a very dangerous party which should not be left to rule this country beyond 2016. Empty calabashes like kambwili are loose canons who should be kicked out of government as soon as possible. Why should one region be regarded as tribal when Luapula, Muchinga and Northern provinces always vote for their own?
Civil/public servants should not expose their political affilliations at work and in return the govt should not treat them in a way suggesting the same.
Kambwanga tell us why you fired Police officers, why did you fire Hatanga recently you attacked Kazabu,why did you fire Munkombwe. Tribalism is coming from PF.
Munkombwe is rubish
Oh no this fool is back again ranting and yapping nonsense. Please Kambwili spare us of your madness rubbish go to hell. The last few days you were quite, we had alot of peace in the country, One day you say the economy has bounced back and now tribal.Which economy has bounced back you fool and which tribal remarks are you talking about
Regards
chichcichichchi
A Tonga or Lozi should also be able to be president without tribalists making much fuss…Zambia is for all taxpayers.
Lt allow as to educate the masses.were are postings.
A Tonga or a Lozi should also be able to become president without tribalists making much fuss…Zambia is for us all.
I have been a strong advocate against Tribalism.For almost 15yrs now I have writing warning Zambians about this vice.Tribalism is real and has the blessing of leaders in government since 1964.Kaunda made sure Nyanja was the medium of instruction at Lilayi police college.But it was chiluba who institutionalize it by hiring consultants such as Prof Mubanga Kashoki and Pro Chishimba to come up with classified document called the Bembanization of Zambia.However it was sata who practiced Tribalism ,he vigoriously implemented it to make sure no any other person should rule this country in the 100yrs.He swift in firing all the Tongas,Lozis,Luvales,kaondes,Lundas,soliz,and many such ones and employed his tribesmen in every high office.Fellow Zambians this the one single reason Zambia is in such…
Again were is my educative and investigative comment ba LT why bring such topics when you don’t want people to comment.
Why were tongas and lozis 70% in the police? Does it mean others were thieves???
i drink freely with tongas and lozis. No pblm with any tribe or race. A serious minister is supposed to explain why pipo dat are not reached retirement age are fired and after HH visited the CB. Not use tribe to defend a wrong action, us Zambians are nt fools we know dat PF is using Global, tribal,church to get votes but fact remains life is expensive. Thieves are now stealing mealie meal, relish in houses.
Chishimba stupid fools dont divide the nati.
Tribalism has been there in Zambia.Kaunda made sure it was a medium of instruction at Lilayi college.Chiluba institutionalsed it when he engaged Prof Mubanga Kashoki and prof chishimba to come with a document called The Bembanisation of Zambia.However it was Sata who implemented it by quickly firing all Tongas,Lozis,Luvales,Kaondes,Lundas and many more from high positions in government and replacing them with Bembas.We need prayers or else Zambia shall remain cursed and wealth will be seen in Zambia.
To hell with LT.I will be blogging on other media houses.You are the agents of tribalism.
Mr. Kambwili please, stop this nonsense, of tribal talk. I am Lozi myself, but all my friends and associates are either from the East or the North. And when we are together, there is no such thing as this one is Lozi, Bemba Nyamja or any of that nuisance.. It is you Politicians like Mumbi Phiri, yourself, Chimbwili and Chama who are perpetuating this tribal thing. I wish people people like you could be thrown into hell. It just shows how unschooled you and your fellow politicians in the names of Mumbi Phiri and Chama Davies.
I AM NOT GOING TO WASTE TIME WITH THE AN IMBECILE LIKE KAMBWILI .THEY HAVE RUN OUT OF IDEAS THE ECONOMY IS IN SHAMBLES ,THE COUNTRY IS IN A MESS .THE SMART BRAINS ARE BEING RULED BY IMBECILES LIKE KAMBWILI ,JEAN KAPATA , GRADE SEVEN DCs NS WE EXPECT THE ECONOMY TO RISE ?
Zambians listen,HH and UPND are headed for a huge thumping on account of the following;
(1) Checks and Balances; The masses feel HH has performed below average in this arena and many ve taken him as a joker for opposing anything developmental and progressive from PF.
(2) Tribalism and Regionalism;It is a known truth that UPND is a tribal and regional party. HH’s encouragement of tribal talk like chuundu chaitwa has gone on to vindicate him as a tribalist.
(3) Ocultism; HH has not done enough to shrug off the Shetanism tag on him.Many people still believe HH is a shetanist and this was worsened by his opposing of prayer.
(4) All political parties ve known idealogies,but UPND dont ve a clear idealogy.People dont know what they stand for.The only thing they re known for is tribalism and…
Is Kambwili normal? Where in H.H’s post on his facebook does he mention tribe? This Kambwili, and his fellow mental block colleagues Mumbi Phiri and Davies Chama only think about tribes. These are the biggest tribalists, people who feel other tribes can not rule this country, who said Zambia is all about Northern, Luapula, Muchinga and Eastern Province? You could hear from Sata himself Levy was from a small tribe, what’s wrong with these people? Let’s think positively, we have many dialects and tribes let everyone feel at home are Zambian. Davies, Mumbi and Kambwili should learn to take control of their mouths for once, theior party is in power show leadership mwebantumwe!!!!
let us ignore this issue of tribe because if we are not careful we will put our sisters in denger , remember there is currently inter marriages. Many tongas men have married bemba women they are right now cooking for them and vice versa, and so continuing on this path it is very dangerous
Kambwili, Davies, Mumbi and their cohorts must be reminded that the best ever President we ever had, Levy did not hail from the place they consider eligible to rule this country. These morons must grow up! Empty tins!!!
am bemba by tribe and i have lived in choma in macha road compound i have also lived in kalomo sikachapa about 80km from kalomo and i also lived in maamba siasonsowa area i was called mungwenjele(foreigner)surely how do you relate your fellow zambian a foreigner? believe you me we love our friends in the southern province i do have very close friends like simoloka, simawagali,siabasimbi,mbulo,mwanansangu these guys are very good guys you can’t notice that they are tongas,it is just a few individuals balaliyanda kapati,my word of advise please put with your politicking we are one but we only differ in principal.Good day God bless zambia
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this mr no neck is the most tribal fellow around,he even castigates his relatives for supporting upnd ati kuti ule support umutonga.this fellow is very stupid.
Kambwili youre the one who called the people from NWP to have come from the buttocks, your musician called tongas worse than a chicken. surely how do you expect such people to look at you. the fact of th matter is we have bad and good elements in each tribe. we have thieves who are lozis, chewa, luvale etc even bemba but we have good men and women from all these tribes, failure to see this is not only being myopic but utter stupidity. i challange Kambwili, Chama and their woman cheerleader Mumbi who has water where a brain must have been to come out in the open to tell us if God was foolish to create other tribes. anybody who speaks tribe, i disassociate myself including my tribe-mates.
Zambians whether from north to south or east to west are suffering because of PF mismanageme
nt of economy. Malawi is far better than us in terms of food prices and yet there is global too. HH 2016
Mr. Kambwili, this is HH’s statement in full. Where are his alleged tribal remarks?
“We keep receiving reports of a number of civil servants, especially in the police service, teachers, health workers and others being victimised over their alleged links to the UPND.
Most of them are being transferred and even dismissed from their jobs which we believe is really unfortunate.
At a time of massive job losses in many sectors, it is really inhuman to keep dismissing professionals from their jobs or victimise them purely on alleged links to our party.
We want to assure that all those being dismissed will be brought back and their benefits restored.
We promise to run a professional civil service that will be well renumerated and no one will be victimised over trivial issues such as their…
The silverback with his big mouth on the move again,when will he shut up?????????????
The BUFFOON has resurfaced again after taking a good hiding from the mines!!
OK guys muli mucibe naba pf from the look of things they are giving you sleepless nights sad indeed
You are right. We are anxious to find out which other 5tupidity they are going to make in the name of “unprecedent” development
My Humble question to Kambwili is “are you really going to offer yourself for the position of MP for Roan Constituency?” you are going to cry like RB, watch this space.
sam lindo your candidate HH will lose even in southern province he has nothing to tell the pipo what he will do,when the economy was okay during RB pipo opted for Sata coz he gave clear balance and checks now your president is busy talking about leadership in state house and only wants to go to state house to do what?ECL has gathered the confidence to go face the miners tell them what has caused that, HH does not talk about the privatisation and pipo knows it is him that sold the mines.pipo are not blind or deaf they have seen the efforts the gvt is making in aliviating poverty
@ JUBA JANSOMO, Are you saying HH will lose in Southern Province? That is your wishful thinking, brother. It is like you are saying next year the sun will rise in the West and set in the East. I think you don’t know how united the large majority of the people of Southern Province are. In Southern even the then mighty Kaunda used to bite the dust in election contests gainst Nkumbula.
Let them get out of the services, these were the guys govt kept warning to stop liking classified information to the opposition but they didn`t listen.
BA LT,
PLEASE PUBLISH WHAT HH SAID SO THAT WE SEE WHERE HE MENTIONED TRIBE. OR IT KAMBWILI WHO IS ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT TRIBE. THIS FIRE YOU ARE HIDING MIGHT EXPLODE ONE DAY!
This is what HH said.
“We keep receiving reports of a number of civil servants, especially in the police service, teachers, health workers and others being victimised over their alleged links to the UPND.
Most of them are being transferred and even dismissed from their jobs which we believe is really unfortunate.
At a time of massive job losses in many sectors, it is really inhuman to keep dismissing professionals from their jobs or victimise them purely on alleged links to our party.
We want to assure that all those being dismissed will be brought back and their benefits restored.
We promise to run a…
PF Consistent Tribal behaviour and conduct has potentially divided the country …..
Ewe chikambwili. HH is upnd and talked about the retirement of men in uniform but didnt say they were lozi or tonga. The Chief is not a upnd member but araged that the retired officers were tonga & lozi. Now chikambwili being tribal & a cheap politician decided to conclude that HH the chief= 1 (upnd) coz thats the only thing he fears most at present.
My experience on tribe: dad was an easterner, Ngoni, and mum is a northerner, bemba. So sad to say, that my bemba relatives described abaLozi as “ifiLozi, ifyafita, ifilanda ichitundu echo tatwaishiba and son on!” On my ngoni side, we had interactions with many tonga, luvale, lozi and namwanga friends/relations! Bembas, generally, are tribal, shem.
A very dear bemba friend of mine in Livingstone, claimed that he could never vote a for a tonga, because……listen to this…..once voted in, all bembas would be deported from Southern province, and he solemnly believed it!
The only way to allay/disprove such wild imaginations and machinations, I think, is to vote in another president from elsewhere other than eastern or northern provinces.
SPOT ON DEAR. BEMBAS ARE THE MOST TRIBAL GROUP OF Homo sapiens IN ZAMBIA. UNFORTUNATELY THEY ARE TOO DEFENSIVE, ALWAYS SMEARING THEIR DIRTY ON OTHERS. TONGAS ARE JUST INNOCENT VICTIMS,EVERYONE KNOWS THAT.
I feel so discouraged. what a terrible country I belong to.
A leader talking like that.
I feel sick. may be its a cursed nation
abari forget you are the one is tribal your friends from southern province do not argue from this fact,go to choma and see what happens there my friend,just choma.these guys are evil must tell when pipo complain which simply means they have gone thru it ma man
This is just human nature and the governance system you adopt only makes it worse (or better). In societies that are homogeneous it is sectarianism based either on family names or on religion. In mixed societies it is racism, etc. What triumphs over most of these problems is decentalization of authority to individuals (NOT COMMUNITIES in sub-regions). Let everyone feel they can win if they do an honest day’s work. Disband central control over electricity, over information and over cultural norms. This and many more interesting instruments will interestingly result in a stronger one Zambia one Nation.
This ***** had to end his statement with global why can’t he just shut up the ugly thing is so upsetting
But sure the tribe only UPND not other poitical parties why ?
Fat Albert at it again!
HOW I WISH ALL YOU PEOPLE THAT LIKE TALKING ABOUT TRIBALISM CAN DRAW A LESSON FROM WHAT HAPPENED IN RWANDA IN 1994.HUTU ALMOST WIPED OUT THEIR FELLOW RWANDEES TUTSI.
WA ARE ALL ZAMBIANS AND OUR TRIBE IS ZAMBIA.
THE PROBLEM THAT I FIND IS OUR BR AND SISTERS FROM FROM TONGA LAND.LEARN THAT LEADERSHIP COME S FROM GOD.AT AN APPOINTED TIME ONE OF US FROM TONGA LAND WILL RULE THIS COUNTRY.
LEARN TO MIX FREELY WITH OTHER TRIBES.BEMBA FRIENDS DO NOT CALL OTHER PEOPLE NAMES LIKE THE WAY WE CALL THEM.
@UPND CADRE stop lying don’t defend any one but say lets stop this tribalism.Bembas or Tongas fullstop.You must be a PF cadre.
Can someone please help me, why it that it only pf and it’s members who tribe in everything? I have never head other political parties talk about tribe and tribalism like pf does.
Can someone please help me, why is it that it’s only pf and it’s members who talk about tribe in everything? I have never head other political parties talk about tribe and tribalism like pf does. Is it that they are the only ones who experience it?
@ Straight forward, It is because its founder president was a tribalist. Do you also realise that all the people talking about tribalism are from one ethnic group. I guess you can tell from their names; Mumbi, kambwili, Sunday Chanda, Frank bwalya, Davis Chama. Useless tribalists.
Why does he still go on wasting his breath when no one listens to the excrement he keeps on puking anyway! Ni mang’ana asona singe Chimbwili mane ine ki siku gumu gumu!
they do not talk about that it was ba UPND does that and what they did to have HH be the president that is taking over from Mazoka they had chirwa and sakwiba sikota as vice president but they insisted that a tonga should be the president of the party and that led to sakwiba sikota to form his own party we are not blind go to choma mazabuka and talk about any other party and see how you will run fast than u went there.in the time of Sata i could not talk about PF ninshi masele bambi they even threatened to to kill my boss and if you run a bussiness in a bemba name expect you business to go down
So because you came across some ignorant characters you decide to support your tribes mate ignorance. Please!!!!
Look who is talking? Is this not the Katangese Kaboke who called North-Westerners “ba Nyamazai” and supported the bed wetter Mumba-Phiri in her “baKachema’ slur against Tongas? He should just start preparing to live out the rest of his destructive obese life, in exile, as a refugee like Shansonga.
unless some tribes were not founded on clans i still know of some regions where identity basing on clan is more significant. wherever you may hail from there’s still a village in Muchinga or Luapula i know where your ‘real relatives’ would fete you basing on clan identity.let’s do away with fooliSh pride and base intelectualisation by going to the roots.viva abena n’gandu, abena bowa, ngulube, n’goma,etc. ABASH tribalism!
@Juba Jansomo while I want to accept your observations I just want to clear one thing.It is not true that the UPND electoral college that elected HH was all from Tonga land .The UPND manifesto has a provincial electoral system all the delegates from nine(9) provinces participated so its not true that only Tongas voted for HH .Unless you say people in Luapula and eastern provinces are Tonga then I will accept.Sakwiba lost because he was weak.HH had the financial muscle which has kept UPND strong and afloat up today.
If God has chosen HH to rule from 2016, no matter how Kambwili and friends may talk of tribal or global tag may change the fact.
Laskatimes, you are pure UPND SUPPORTERS stop this habit of useless writing. HH is not a leader 2016 he will be no more mo matter he invited ***** GBM and others he will not win. God can not chose leaders like HH and tribal Tonga , u are just all *****s who are supporting HH, mind you in 2015 by-elections he was closer to LUNGu because all MMD supported him now they are going to field in MUTATI, mwanya imwe. HH now will come number three, and come 2021 a Bemba will be voted as zambian leader not Tongas, who want to dived zambia with their useless chiefs.
IT IS THE PF THAT IS DEVIDING THE NATION ON TRIBAL LINES WHILE THEY ARE POINTING ACCUSING FIGURES AT OTHER PEOPLE. SINCE THEY HAVE FAILED TO DELIVER ON THEIR PROMISES, THEY HAVE COME UP WITH THIS SCHEME OF PAINTING UPND TO BE TRIBAL TO DIVERT THE ATTENTION OF THE PEOPLE FROM THE REAL ISSUES. IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT IT IS ACTUALLY PRESIDENT LUNGU HIMSELF, KAMBWILI, MUMBI PHIRI AND CHAMA WHO HAVE BEEN IN THE FOREFRONT TO PROMOTE TRIBALISM. WHEN OTHERS RESPOND, THEY TURN AROUND TO ACCUSE THE VICTIMS OF BEING TRIBAL. THE PF SHOULD BE MADE TO ACCOUNT FOR THE MASSIVE JOB LOSSES ON THE COPPERBELT AND THE UNPRECEDENTED SUFFERING THEY HAVE BROUGHT ON THE NATION THROUGH THEIR CARELESS AND VISIONLESS LEADERSHIP.
Yes. Give a dog a bad name and then hang it! Shame on you Kambwili. Iam from eastern province and I can see that the people consistently talking about tribe are PF. I have seen HH’s statement and nowhere does he mention tribe.
PF has failed, so they are trying to divert people’s attention from their failures by calling HH a tribalist. It cannot work. 2016 – Kuya bebele!
Dunderhead!!! . . . . . it could have happened? In the US or UK a character like this would not even be made Director in the civil service. Mediocrity at its best. These are the characters people are forced to call “Honourable”. I hope the new constitution does away with such terms. Even the president should not be referred to as excellency. Our presidents have never been excellent so why force people to call them such.
hh because of you we have this tribalism in our nation.
Period ………..
Wrong prognosis. UPND are not the architects of Zambia’s tribalism.
Kabila yangu tu ndio pekee inayoweza kuongoza Zambia kwa njia ya busara na maendeleo.At least we’re not savages and we’re more civilised+ educated.
KAMBWILI YOU ARE A DANGEROUS ACCUSER. TONGAS ARE THE VICTIMS HERE, AND YOU AND YOUR LOT ARE THE AGGRESSORS. KAMBWILI AND YOUR TEAM ARE THE ONES TILTED TO DIVIDING THE NATION BY ALWAYS THROWING TRIBAL INSULTS AT TONGAS, TONGA TRADITIONAL LEADERS AND UPND. YOU ARE THE ONES AWAKENING THE SLEEPING LION!
KAMBWILI SHOULD LEARN TO BE CIVIL IN THE MANNER HE HANDLES ISSUES. KAMBWILI AND HIS TEAM OF ACCUSERS ARE THE AGRESSORS AGAINST THE TONGAS. TONGAS ARE THE VICTIMS, YET KAMBWILI HAS THE AUDACITY TO RAISE AN ACCUSING FINGER AGAINST THE TONGAS. KAMBWILI IS DIVIDING THE NATION. YOU GUYS HAVE POKED INTO TONGA NOSE FOR SO LONG. DON’T AWAKEN THE SLEEPING LION.
I am appealing to anyone close to lungu to advise him to chase kambwili or please pf supoters ask ur party president to fire this kambwili and see how people will celebrate actualy it wil be a plus in terms of pf suport for 2016 erections,or pf will loose coz of one roten groundnut mark my advice as for me me my vote is for anyone I will percieve fit for the job amen
In 1991/1992 Dr. Ludwig Sondashi answered those who were accusing him of favouring people from North-Western Province thus: “If I don’t appoint people from my province who will?”. This was a man in the system and he saw the Northerners, Easterners, Southerners, Westerners, etc practicing nepotism. Similarly, if HH does not alert the nation about the mistreatment of people from Southern and Western Provinces at the hands of a disgraced tribalistic regime, who will? The late Kapwepwe also resigned from UNIP to form UPP alleging that his people (the Bembas) were being mistreated by the Kaunda regime. UPP was a tribal party just like PF under Sata.