MINISTER of Local Government and Housing Stephen Kampyongo has said that Zambia is bigger than any one province which may think it alone can change or form government.
Mr Kampyongo said this in Parliament last night on a point or order he raised in response to Mazabuka member of Parliament (MP) Garry Nkombo (UPND) who said that the people of Southern Province are resolved on changing government in next year’s general elections.
“Mr chairman, governments are voted for by people and how I wish one province could put a government in power. But this country is bigger than one province,” Mr Kampyongo said.
He also sought the chairman’s ruling on Mr Nkombo labelling the ruling Patriotic Front (PF) as a curse when the party was elected into office by the people.
“Is this member in order to underrate the people’s voice and will which put the PF in power?” Mr Kampyongo asked.
The chairman of the committee of supply Mkhondo Lungu ruled that Mr Nkombo’s assertions would be later rebuffed by the Minister of Finance.
In his debate on the estimates of revenue and expenditure for Southern Province, Mr Nkombo said: “People of this province are very clear about what the future of this country should be.”
He accused the PF of being a violent group of people who are living on borrowed money which they have allegedly spent on cosmetic development.
Tonga thinking
Once again..Instead of debating national issues,they are busy debating provinces..these Mental patients (mp’s) are really letting us down.
What Kapyongo should know is that the people voted for Sata, not PF a bunch of thugs.
Why there no more by-elections? I humbly say the souls of the past rest in peace, but these we have left with MPs should start dying. Why God take the better ones and leave us with these “TRIBAL” barking hyenas of Gary Kapyongos ?
GARY NKOMBO I THOUGHT WITH YOUR DEGREE YOU ARE MATURE BUT ALAS YOU HAVE REALLY DISAPPOINTED ME.
I HAVE ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT YOU ARE A MATURE POLITICIAN OR WAS IT A SLIP OF A TONGUE COZ THE OTHER YEAR YOU INSULTED IN PARLIAMENT SURELY WHERE ARE YOUR MORALS.
AS POINTED OUT SOUTHERN PROVINCE CAN NEVER MAKE A PRESIDENT NOT EVEN LUSAKA SO ITS HIGH TIME YOU WOKE UP FROM SLUMBER
Very true one province cant effect government change. Its tough but its still Lungu until 2021
Yes continue suffering with Lungu
atase be Garry..what kind of statement is that? disappointed
What asurance is there to show that HH will perform better than lungu? keep on dreaming. its about Zambia not southern. other provinces open your eyes and see. Only a Tonga now its southern
Yeah we just want the govt to develop Zambia.Indeed one province can’t win elections.We have seen what’s happening in mother Zambia.I almost started supporting UPND but the supporters of this party are too tribe such that u’ll feel an outcast if u come from northern part of Zambia.I don’t know why UPND supporters think like that.They are enemies of UPND.Ifwe ni PF chapwa.2016 so long as ka kwacha stabilize nishi ni kolopa.Infact it’ll will soon come K7 per dollar.Bane Ba UPND chapwa mwalusa
You are 100% right.
Blind loyalty indeed, The economic environment is not improving anytime soon because your leader is clueless e.g. he anounces austerity measures he himself does not understand. If i may educate you, the cost of living is about to and or further increase in the light of the pending hike in fuel and electricity tarrifs. It is people like you who are subjecting us to poverty by voting for leaders who stupify you with songs and slogans and not real issues affecting you and our future genarations.
Very smart and handsome Tonga bull!
Bane, understand the background to his comment. At that moment, the house was discussing Head 98 – Office of the President – Southern Province. The provincial minister was defendant and the concerned MP wanted more money allocated for that Head.
Spot on Jobby. Gents lets understand the background of the story.
Any way, 2016. We are retrenching Jameson and all his jililis
Leave Gary alone. He is talking about his province and nothing wrong. other MPs talk about their provinces too. Didn’t Pule say the last time that the people of Luapula province had resolved to vote for PF? The people of Copperbelt and the people of WP and the people of NP and the people of NWP and the people of Lusaka etc have resolved to change government next year. PF really has some useless and illiterate MPs who don’t understand English
Gary did not suggest that Southern province alone will change govt .Its Kapyongo who said that. We all know PF survives on tribal tagging and divisions but its good enough many pipo are realising that they are nothing other than *****s without sustainable plans for mother Zambia
NOW IT HAS COME FROM THE MP HIMSELF SAD INDEED
Again it is debating UPND you people what has gone wrong with you? Get to work no one is interested with that solve the following problems PF:
(1) Power shortage
(2) unemployment
(3) High cost of living
(4) Looming hunger due to expected draught in the 2015/16 season
(6) The free falling Kwacha
(7) street vendors
We will support you if you can act on the above , do not say it is global , remember leaders are there to solve complex problems unless you. Do you remember how king Solomon was able to distinguish fake flower and original
we know that southern province alone can not change Government.But under the this current constitution it is possible for one province to produce a president.One who can get more than 800,000 votes all he need is a small top up from across the country.i can asure you any who will above 1300,000 who will win this time.thats why I say those opposed to 50+1 are dull.Any president that win s under the current system tends to lean towards one tribe which supported him to win.The current system only allows tribalism to florish.So lets do away with,so that only a popular leader is elected through the 50+1.It is not the number of provinces but the number of people who vote for you.Maen while my choice is HH.I have my own reasons which are based on the economy.
@ SIDO MARK
So in short you basically saying that the entire Southern Province will again repeat their silly voting pattern of January 2015 and top up from other 9 Provinces. What makes you so sure that the other Provinces will also vote enmass for President Lungu especially after knowing that this is what UPND is again trying to do, tribal based voting?
Dont think the Bembas and other tribes are that stup1d to let UPND do what they did in January 2015, infact people are very upset with HH and his clowns.
Gary is not a principled person in 2015 he vowed he would resign if HH didn’t become President to this day he doesn’t know he is a butt of many jokes…then there was the incidence involving someone at Chita Lodge….well what do you expect from a trained teacher who never taught these are the results…swinging from tree to tree..how can speak marabishi in Parliament if you are not calling your colleagues ‘chikala’ and then say because you are tonga you meant ‘chikala panshi” you are a strange man boss very strange..worse than a kaponya at times….
/Election talk is very premature, there are a lot of dynamics that are at play in the economy and the biggest challenge for opposition is that the levers of power in the economy lay with the ruling party. A lot of work has to go into 2016 and the UPND needs to provide clear- cut alternatives on economic matters. For example; where is UPND’s alternative budget proposal? Where is UPND’s energy plan? Where is UPND’s trade deficit plan? Where is UPND’s debt repayment strategy? We are at risk of getting the same recycled politicians, PF is simply a mosaic of UNIP and MMD 4.0. UPND is now turning into PF 2.0.
@ LORD VOLDEMORT (THE DARK LORD)
I seem to agree with you on this score. In the absence of clear cut alternative and tangible solutions by the opposition to Zambians, it is certainly clear that they are even more blank on how the current pressing challenges can be resolved.
One doesnt need to be a great thinker to conclude that the opposition are merely making noise and its themselves who are actually disoriented. On the other hand president Lungu is seriously giving solutions to matters within his control and one doesnt need to be blind to see the massive development the PF is delivering. I call a spade a spade period!
Comment:IT’S TRUE.MY RELATIVES IN UPND THINKS OPPOSING WHAT THE GOVT.DO WILL MAKE THEM WIN ELECTIONS.ACTING AS IF THEY NOT ZAMBIANS
I lone for the day when politics will be clean in zambia it’s only sakwiba sikota and kawimbe who have spoken aganist this ordinary zambians are peaceful and respect each other don’t even mind tribe now politicians are creating a tribe problem which is not there on the ground the problem is in this nosence no one wins zambian have even voted for people from other races and all has been well until this rubbish was created by politicians who benefit from it insulting people from other tribe or isolating people based on tribe sucks politicians we know most of you are failers so leave Zambians alone a tribe has never made anyone important what define you is hard work even if your father becomes president if you it matters less unless you work hard
Tribes have always been there, and they will always be there. Yes, intermarriages have happened a lot in Zambian and I just do hope that this will unite the country. I think that the crop of current politicians is very weak. They always jump into tribal fights whenever they differ, instead of focusing real issues and debate their view point with civility.This makes them very misplaced in contemporary political discourse. Given the current socioeconomic situation in Zambia, I would rather have a “think tank”, the Zambia National Development Team (ZNDT) assembled comprising citizens and residents with the capacity to turn the corner for the benefit of the nation. Posterity will certainly judge this generation harshly.
jobby, isaac and chimwanga, Hon Gary Nkombo was debating the budget for southern province. Yes no debate about that, but he also said that southern province wants to change government and that is what the people are not happy with.
“…..Mazabuka member of Parliament (MP) Garry Nkombo (UPND) who said that the people of Southern Province are resolved on changing government in next year’s general elections…..”.
Because Nkombo is a UPMD MP and the tribal tag still hangs over them, substituting “the people of southern province” with “the tongas” the sentence becomes what was intended as :
“…..Mazabuka member of Parliament (MP) Garry Nkombo (UPND) who said that the Tongas are resolved on changing government in next year’s general elections……”.
So Hon Kampyongo and the…
Does Miles Sampa attend parliament sittings, if he does then he is very quiet, not presenting his constituents getting paid for nothing.
To those who until today have been doubting that these pathetic imbeciles in UPND are TRIBAL, let them believe without doubt. Garry Nkombo was three years ahead of me at UNZA but I can safely say that he is still childish and will never change. I wonder whether he really got anything from UNZA because even at the time, he was called walking stick.
Anyway, to get serious, are these the people any sane Zambian can honestly vote for and entrust National power with? Its a BIG NO because all of them are full of themselves when infact they are so blank and behind intellectually.
HH AND UPND WILL NEVER RULE ZAMBIA FOR SO MANY REASON TOO NUMEROUS TO OUTLINE HERE, THEY ARE TIME WASTERS IF ANYTHING.
Gary poor focus
Ba UFO, yenimuchibusu! Mwapolomya sana! Mwalatulwalika. Nangu kutemwa PamaFi awe te ifi!
@ UFO… Just the way you analyze issues makes me wonder what kind of Universities you have in Zambia…Zambia is a cursed nation at the moment going “no where” No policies put in place to stabilize the economy ( fiscal and monetary)…just suffering…Yet a so called former University student cant see that…shame…cry the beloved Zambia…guess its about tribe…you can name a dog Mulenga,Bwalya,Chama…even my name Musonda…the blind so called educated Zambians will vote for those names…sad
THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH GARRY’S REMARKS. HE IS AN MP FROM SOUTHERN PROVINCE, AND THEREFORE IT IS IN ORDER FOR HIM TO REFER TO STATE OF AFFAIRS IN SOUTHERN PROVINCE, NOT TO MEAN THAT OTHER ZAMBIANS IN OTHER PROVINCES DON’T WANT TO CHANGE THIS FAILED AND CORRUPT PF GOVERNMENT. WE ALL KNOW LADIES AND GENTLEMEN THAT PF HAS PLUNGED US INTO SERIOUS POVERTY BY BORROWING HEAVILY, YET WE DON’T EVEN SEE WHAT THEY ARE USING ALL THAT BORROWED MONEY FOR. THESE THIEVES SHOULD BE BOOTED OUT. HOW CAN THE COUNTRY START SURVIVING ON BORROWED MONEY WHEN WE HAD SURPLUS JUST YESTERDAY DURING MAGANDE’S ERA?
These tribalists are at it again, tabomfwa, finkula. It IS SAD
Debating on estimates of revenue and expenditure for southern province-What’s wrong with Nkombo’s point then Kampyongo are an illiteracy minister no wonder our country can not go forward. Maybe if Nkombo had used bemba!
Useless arguments. The man represents a constituency in Southern Province and he is saying the people he is representing are resolved to change government, hows that difficult to understand. Maybe he should have spoken in Tonga then a translator could have translated for Bwana Stephen in his local language of choice. Seems English is a problem. Problem with tribalists is that even if I were to say Zambia Sugar is in Southern Province they immediately start talking about tribe. Why is the PF so obsessed with tribe? Looking at the top leadership in UPND, its people from all over the country so why do PF keep on playing the tribe card all the time? Would Mutale Nalumango or Percy Chanda, Canisius Banda or Charles Kakoma still be UPND if the PF stories were true?
Am very disappointed!!i thought Garry Nkombo is better than HH but he is the same” a tribalist too”-shocking!!ITS LIKE GOD HAS CLOSED THE EYES OF THESE UPND CADRES AND THEY CANNOT REALISE THAT HH LOSE BCOZ MAJORITY VOTERS REJECT TRIBALISM!!IF A FEW WHO MAY WANT TO VOTE FOR HH WOULD FEAR THIS TONGA WAY OF THINKING!!NOW EVEN THEIR CHIEFS HAVE JOINED IN TRIBALISM!!YOU WILL NEVER U AS LONG AS U DONT STOP TRIBALISM WHICH IS IN YOUR BLOOD!!!
Useless arguments. The man represents a constituency in Southern Province and he is saying the people he is representing are resolved to change government, hows that difficult to understand. Maybe he should have spoken in Tonga then a translator could have translated for Bwana Stephen in his local language of choice. Seems English is a problem. Why is the PF so obsessed with tribe? Looking at the top leadership in UPND, its people from all over the country so why do PF keep on playing the tribe card all the time? Would Mutale Nalumango or Percy Chanda, Canisius Banda or Charles Kakoma still be UPND if the PF stories were true?
The wind of change has come. People should not only think of UPND to be their only competitor in 2016. God is sending a messiah from any political party to remove the PF from power. Remember Zambia consists of many tribes. To me the tribe does not matter. Its one Zambia one nation. wait for all political parties go to the convention before the next years election. Thereafter, the political messiah will rise from the north and liberate the Zambian people.
to yodlef thst where the wind has come my family and i cant vote for a party which can divide a country we need unity and love not these self centred pipo and tribalism DNA