CHILUFYA TAYALI Executive Director The Zambian Voice
CHILUFYA TAYALI executive Director The Zambian Voice

By Chilufya Tayali

Contrary to what many of the UPND cadres say, I don’t hate nor insult Double H. I respect HH if anything I am told he has a more beautiful daughter than Edgar, so we can do a One Zambia One Nation some day. But for now, I am banking on what I have seen.

My issues on HH are very clear and I can count them. They are not personal but substantive issues which a reasonable person would wish they are responded to logically than terming them tribal, hate-speech and whatever sensational terminology one can think of just to run away from the real issue. Don’t worry I will keep asking.

Yesterday the UPND were celebrating the defection of Lupando Mwape from his political sleep to UPND. Let us not waste time in saying Lupando Mwape is from MMD because the man was like a free player without a club and no price whatsoever.

But who is Lupando Mwape? Let me start by saying the man has a strong academic background with a Doctorate in Engineering (I stand to be corrected). He has lived in the UK where he studied and most probably tried to change his skin to look lighter just to conform with the Bazungu.

He won the Lukashya seat in 2001 and was appointed Minister of Transport & Communication by Levy Mwanawasa who later promoted him to VEEP in 2004 to appease the stubborn Bembas. Unfortunately Lupando could not perform in spite of being a VEEP, so he lost the Lukashya seat in 2006 elections.

It is alleged that this UPND’s secret document (quota) demands that only a Tonga should lead the party to State House. Therefore no Bemba, including BIG GBM can change the DNA of UPND. Bembas can join UPND but they are not to own the party or the Government to be formed by UPND.

Mwanawasa was kind to him, so he appointed him as Ambassador to China until he was brought back by RB. Since then he has been politically stale. He tried to dust himself up during the last January elections to support Edgar Lungu hoping to be given a ka job, but like Mike Mulongoti he got nothing because Lungu was busy employing RB people. Lupando was also not a political factor to attract Lungu’s attention.

Summing it all, from my point of view, Lupando Mwape is a failure politically but UPND can celebrate his vote and most probably the votes of some of his relatives and that counts for something at least.

My brother Larry Mweetwa was jubilating and mocking me (after we managed to pull down his fake page of another Chilufya Tayali) in his self imposed exile that UPND has one more Bemba to dilute the tribal tag on UPND. But I pity this Larry boy to invite me to such political parties (party of enjoyment) instead of where there are ladies like the ones I saw at the beach.

Larry and his friends in UPND cannot dilute the tribal Tag in UPND by how many Bembas (or any other tribe) they attract because it is part of the UPND DNA. And am not fabricating things to prove a point, I am talking about things accented by founder members of UPND.

If we go by the words of Ackson Sejani who was quoted by The Post Newspaper of Wednesday June 7, 2006, EDITION #3520, which carried a lead story as follows: Southern Province won’t be cowed into silence over UPND succession, vows Sejani…A TONGA MUST REPLACE MAZOKA-REX NATALA,”.

Ackson Sejani said, “Attempts must be made to put this whole debate into perspective. When I joined UPND in 2002, I was told by some founding gurus that you need two things to understand how UPND functions and how it is held together…you need to hold the party constitution on one hand and the entrenched convention of the quota system on the other.”

It is alleged that this UPND’s secret document (quota) demands that only a Tonga should lead the party to State House. Therefore no Bemba, including BIG GBM can change the DNA of UPND. Bemba’s can join UPND but they are not to own the party or the Government to be formed by UPND.

Don’t accuse me of tribalism; I am simply giving facts from UPND history and the quota as reported. So instead of calling me names UPND should produce the quota document and explain it.

It seems the Quota is the DNA of the UPND and all members of this UPND must try to question it instead of just defending HH, because you might be in the dark.

Had it not been for the existence of the secret document of the UPND called the Quota, Double H would not have become President of UPND.

We all know Sakiba Sikota SC was the Vice President of UPND when Mazoka died and he acted as President from the time Andy died in May 2006 to July 2006 when the Conversion was held.

To arrive at this assertion, I asked myself the following questions; where was HH during the time of Mazoka? Who knew about HH?Who was popular between Saki and HH at during that time?

We all know that Saki was a man to recon with in the political arena and he had high chances of scooping the Republican Presidency had not been for the Quota system coming into play to elect HH as President.

HH was nowhere in politics or charity, since he claims to be a philanthropist. Everything HH has done to help the public was done after failing to be come Republican President. He has been helping around just to win votes otherwise his name is only written in the Privatization of Companies and him getting a rich out of that.

The quota system must exists somewhere in the UPND and it should be published for people, especially the new members like GBM, Lupando Mwape, Canisius Banda,Nalumango, Maureen Mwanawasa, of course my wife Clance Zulu and her fellow youths, so that they know what is contained in there.

If the members of UPND ignores the Quota system, what guarantees do they have that what happened to Saki would not repeat itself.

UNPD and HH will forever regret bamboozling Saki at a the conversion in 2006. HH was not meant to be President but they used the Quota and their chosen messiah who has almost turned into a god as Chief Hamusonde addressed him in the famous phone conversation which both HH and the Chief refuted and they have not said a word after the recording came out.

This is not about hate or tribalism it is about transparency and I expect people to answer to this issue instead of being abusive.

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  1. Tayali you are “too young” to be too hateful. Remember what started up as a dark cloud sometimes ends up being a heavy rainfall. To rehearse too much in these tribal gymnastics does worry me from whatever angle it comes from. Enjoy your day. By the way are you not married to be comparing ECL and HH’s daughters? To me you sounded a bit kokaikokai on this line

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    • This tribal talk the PF are perpetuating is counter productive. I have never seen a Shoprite only for Bembas or Kaondes. This economy bites us all. Our energies should be to improve the economy, get our youths skills and employment, lower the cost of living. This is what Edgar has failed. The PF , as it stands have no message for the people…apart from inciting tribal hatred. HH on the other hand has been very consistent. It all about the economy

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    • What has what Akson said to do with HH? This is so lame Mr Tayali. If Akson was tribal, you can not lamp all tongas as tribal. I am half tumbuka and half kaonde simply because of how ba KK used to move civil servants. So basically if you will call somebody tribal tonga then you are out of you mind. Most of young people today even if they carry tonga surnames, it does not mean that both parents are tonga. So Mr Tayali bola panshi. You can not insult all tongas just because of UPND. How many tongas voted for Mr Lungu? there could be many of them because voting is a secret ballot. So bakamba please bola panshi.

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    • What has what Akson said to do with HH? This is so lame Mr Tayali. If Akson was tribal, you can not lamp all tongas as tribal. I am half tumbuka and half kaonde simply because of how ba KK used to move civil servants. So basically if you will call somebody tribal tonga then you are out of you mind. Most of young people today even if they carry tonga surnames, it does not mean that both parents are tonga. So Mr Tayali bola panshi. You can not insult all tongas just because of UPND. How many tongas voted for Mr Lungu? there could be many of them because voting is a secret ballot. So bakamba please bola panshi.2

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    • Sour grapes, Ka-Tayali! UPND is now way beyond reach. Come August 13th or thereabouts, HH is in state house. It’s about someone with a vision not what tribe he speaks.

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    • Please, do not insult this Tayali guy lest you make him popular. The best is to ignore him. Tayali, I suppose that the over 40% of the votes that HH got were all from Southern Province. Let me post the other parts where HH got lots of votes:

      CENTRAL Province
      Edgar LUNGU PF – 53,462 (41%)
      Hakainde HICHILEMA UPND – 68,074 (53%)

      NORTH-WESTERN Province
      Edgar LUNGU PF – 13,275(11%)
      Hakainde HICHILEMA UPND – 102,292(85%)

      WESTERN Province
      Edgar LUNGU PF – 18,265(16%)
      Hakainde HICHILEMA UPND – 93,674(80%)

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    • Where are the Petitioners, this Political tribal incitation, instigation will get out of hand if not controlled.The sad part is some of the people who are propagiting Political hate speech, incitement, instigation claim to be Christians and sometimes quote scriptures to disguise their agenda. The petitioners should petition the Zambia Episcopal Conference (ZEC) and the Vatican to avoid the Rwanda Religious Leaders situtuation who were tried at the Hague. For Protestant Christians inciitng and instigating Political hate speech the Petitioners should petition Council of Churches in Zambia (CCZ), Evangelical Fellowship of Zambia (EFZ) and World Council of Churches. The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke

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    • See who is talking about tribalism! Chilufya, Bwalya, Chanda, Musonda etc… Isn’t this also being passionately tribal against others from the south?

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    • “but like Mike Mulongoti he (Lupando) got nothing because Lungu was busy employing RB people” says Tayali. So its confirmed RB imposes his stooges on Lungu. ECL is not in charge.

      By the way what are the boundaries of poverty & hunger?
      1. Social boundaries?
      2. Tribal boundaries?
      3. Racial boundaries?
      5. Educational boundaries?
      6. Behavioral boundaries?
      7. Traditional boundaries?
      8. Mental boundaries?
      9. Provincial boundaries?
      10. Economical boundaries?

      I ask because some of us are hard hit by the economical meltdown/malaise caused by PF & Tayali thinks just being Bemba is enough to vote PF . But how come that people in Luapula/Muchinga are not feeling the pinch to still retain PF? . Retain PF based on what, mere roads initiated by MMD & speeded up by RB only to be copycut…

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    • Retain PF based on what, mere roads initiated by MMD & speeded up by RB only to be copycut by Sata?

      Luapula/Muchinga come on! You deserve better! Are half population of Luapulans affording even one decent meal per day? Then PF is discriminatory in allocation of national resources sourced from other provinces to Luapula & Muchinga. More roads & Universities for them when others have none.
      Or is it just that kufwa na ‘No’ pa PF? Pamaka meanwhile your stomach is empty & you can’t even raise your fist!

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    • Oh, this is interesting; now the PF Vuvuzela (Chilufya Tayali) is quoting from the same Post Newspaper that PF loves to hate. PF is busy trying to close the Post because they believe everything the Post says about PF and Lungu untrue!! Tayali, please publish that document that only permits a Tonga to rule UPND so people can see it.

      By the way, (Tayali) you posted a wrong recording about HH. HH is suing Times of Zambia and others for saying that He (HH) called Chieftainess Choongo to castigate her for hosting Chama. Restless Tayali rushes to the media to publish a recording where HH is chatting with Chief Hamusonde!!! Cant believe this guy. Get your facts right before dashing to the media. PF must even cut your salary for mixing up their game plan. Lol

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    • The tribal talk in upnd won’t go away as long as the party leadership keep deflecting it elsewhere.
      HH and his cronies must unreservedly and publicly denounce and condemn tribalism and be seen to embrace other tribes especially the majority Bemba speaking people.

      As long as HH doesn’t come out in public, the country takes it as tribal tag being part of upnd DNA

      What a shame

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    • @Mr Intelligent (The Realist)
      You forgot to add also Lusaka Province. visit ECZ site it should give PF sleepless nights!
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      2015 Presidential Election Results – Lusaka Province
      Edgar Chagwa Lungu 178,977 = 61%
      Hakainde Hichilema 104,178 = 35.53%

      Now how many more votes has Lungu lost countrywide due to hunger & poor leadership?
      He went to Copperbelt last week but was not well received compared to the false receiption he got in Mazabuka? Immediately he left it is believed Mopani will still retrench more workers. Is it a gain or loss for a ruling party when workers keep on losing employment when leaders sit by “ndwi”? That must be enough reason for worry.

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    • pf vuvuzela..Why is tayali so obsessed with tribalism..I am left to wonder if he is paid to be tribal.We have seen such characters come up suddenly and disappear suddenly. Karma is a [email protected]#ch

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    • The Question should be in whose interest is this guy writing all this, If you have the answer to this question then you know that this article is pointless and meaningless.
      The guy is always shifting his goal posts to suit his pockets, Who ever takes this guy seriously and pays him for doing this must have their heard examined.

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    • Chilufya Tayali is focusing on tribes? He must be an embarrassment to EL. How old is this man? Its the economy fo0l!

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    • TAYALI THE RAPIST AT IT AGAIN.

      Is Tayali trying to rape HH ‘s daughter some day or what?

      Tayali try to rape HH ‘s daughter and see how I will personally get a burdizzo and nip off your tiny dick and give it to the dogs to for a meal.

      Do you hate HH that much that you can even start involving his children in your stupid rant.

      Tayali you are the worst tribalist ever known to Zambia. We mpulumushi we.

      I think you are scared that the lady you raped will restart the case when your protector PF is out.

      Tayali needs to be reported to the donor community for his hate speech with a potential to spark genocide in Zambia.

      Viva UPND and HH team

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    • “GBM, Lupando Mwape, Canisius Banda,Nalumango, Maureen Mwanawasa, Clance Zulu”. TAYALI, thanks for your deep investigation on this quota. I used to brush you aside as nonsense. Not anymore. I think you have a rich source of info that even others don’t. Those who try to treat your contribution with contempt do it to their own peril. Obviously the above names in quotation are making f00ls of themselves to think that they will be UPND president. I can’t believe how NEGA NEGA is so deep-rooted in UPND. Your article is not tribal, only factual and those with ears and eyes should listen to wake up.

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    • Tayali, be responsible than dwell on tribal talk, If you truly Zambian Voice, get serious and talk sense than this crap. The problem with zambian is that everyone want to be president. whats wrong to give HH a chance and prove him wrong.

      You kind of people who buy a cloth, before even fitting it, you are busy taking to a tailor to adjust it. Stop this rubbish and get responsible.

      I am not Tonga but I feel HH has the ability to change the country. If Lupando is a failure why talk about him? its you and F.oolish Bwalya stuck on Lupando? if he change his color so what?? its his own wish and nothing to do with you.

      Stop being childish and add value to our society. IF PF have paid you, shut up and eat their money quietly.

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    • Iam from Eastern Province. Iam voting HH 2016. My children will not eat tribalism. Tayali talks about “an alleged secret document”, then draws categorical conclusions from what might or might not exist!
      By the way, l thought Saki stood in an election with HH? What was the outcome of that election?
      Tayali you are too young to be inciting tribalism! It will find you out.

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    • Voters need to vote with their brains/minds /intelligently and not with their emotions.

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  2. Should I take this guy seriously, like seriously? Everything written here is all about speculation, he’s even not sure if the Quota he’s talking about exists in UPND.
    Lastly, by saying “He won the Lukashya seat in 2001 and was appointed Minister of Transport & Communication by Levy Mwanawasa who later promoted him to VEEP in 2004 to appease the stubborn Bembas” …Stubborn Bembas huh? Tell me how’s that not being tribal with prejudice on top?

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  3. This tribal talk the PF are perpetuating is counter productive. I have never seen a Shoprite only for Bembas or Kaondes. This economy bites us all. Our energies should be to improve the economy, get our youths skills and employment, lower the cost of living. This is what Edgar has failed. The PF , as it stands have no message for the people…apart from inciting tribal hatred. HH on the other hand has been very consistent. It all about the economy

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  4. I wander if tayali is learned.He must have used a recage to pass his grade 7.only people in this capacity may want to show as if they are learned.To be a learned,one should show commitment and maturity and consideration.

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  5. I am actually happy Saki,never led UPND, he abbondoned his own party meaning had he led UPND today we would have no opposition giving credible checks. Secondly, politics is revolving. We all know that PF as a Vice President who is not being considered for running mate. Infact from what Frank said Yersterday, she is not even on the A-Team, team allowed to travel arround the country for compaigns which is made up of Frank,Edgar,Chishimba,Davies and Mumbi.What you haven’t seen here is that on apart from the President only Bembas have been allowed to campaign in PF. Well I understand your analysis Chilufya because your target is to distroy UPND. Unfortunately tis party is built on a on create foundation.

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  6. Lupando Mwape has no Doctorate in Engineering. He only has a City and Guild qualification which saw him serve as a Technical Officer at TEVETA.

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  7. Lets face it, if it was not for Tonga tribalism, Saki was going to UPnd President. NO ONE CAN DENY THAT.

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    • FINE HE HAD A GO. HE LOST. HE FORMED HIS OWN PARTY ULP AND FAILED. GOT SWALLOWED BY PF AND HE LOST THE PARLIAMENTARY SEAT IN LIVINGSTONE ON PF. THE ONLY SURVIVORS OF THAT LOT IS INONGE- NALOLO (Home lady) and LUBINDA- Kabwata (za yelo withMCS influence). SO ONE CAN NOT DENY HE IS A FAILURE. FACTS!!!!!

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  8. Chilufya, not everyone joining UPND have presidential ambitions. You should know that there are Zambians out who genuinely want to serve the Zambian People. And such people find UPND to be a more organized and mature political party. Yes HH`s ascendance to the helm of the party might be controversial but which party lacks such a story? You know all too well how many hands were raised instead of registered members when vetoing Lungu`s ascendance to the helm of the PF, at the expense of Miles Sampa. Up to now Nevers Mumba can`t pull the MMD together because of the way he found himself at the top, also at the expense if you like of RB. The list goes on and on. This is a common occurrence in Zambian politics and UPND has not been spared but why lash out at UPND in the manner you at it?. The…

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  9. What has what Akson said to do with HH? This is so lame Mr Tayali. If Akson was tribal, you can not lamp all tongas as tribal. I am half tumbuka and half kaonde simply because of how ba KK used to move civil servants. So basically if you will call somebody tribal tonga then you are out of you mind. Most of young people today even if they carry tonga surnames, it does not mean that both parents are tonga. So Mr Tayali bola panshi. You can not insult all tongas just because of UPND. How many tongas voted for Mr Lungu? there could be many of them because voting is a secret ballot. So bakamba please bola panshi.1

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  10. Where is Saki and his Liberal Party iwe ka Tayali …… Why has he failed to run his own party which he formed. UPND did the best thing to elect HH as their party leader because had it been Sakwiba Sikota as party leader, this time UPND would have been dead and burried just like Liberal Party. Example… When Sata (King Cobra) was dribbled by Chiluba he left MMD and formed PF which he managed to grow and this is the current government that shows that the man was determined and focuse but now look at Sakwiba after leaving UPND where is he politically with his party….? He is just a joker……By the way it is not a guarantee that when you’re vice president you’re the one to succeed the incumbent should anything happen unless written in black and white and that was not the case with…

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  11. Ackson Sejani who was quoted by The Post Newspaper of Wednesday June 7, 2006, EDITION #3520, which carried a lead story as follows: Southern Province won’t be cowed into silence over UPND succession, vows Sejani…A TONGA MUST REPLACE MAZOKA-REX NATALA,”.

    Ackson Sejani said, “Attempts must be made to put this whole debate into perspective. When I joined UPND in 2002, I was told by some founding gurus that you need two things to understand how UPND functions and how it is held together…you need to hold the party constitution on one hand and the entrenched convention of the quota system on the other.”

    THE ISSUE OF THE QUOTA SYSTEM IN UPND MUST BE TAKEN VERY SERIOUSLY. HERE IT MEANS THAT THERE IS A CLANDESTINE OPERATION WHOSE AIM IS TO PROMULGATE A “TONGA ONLY” TO THE PRESIDENCE. I…

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    • That is the past, UPND has moved on and has been making efforts in integrating everyone. The people who made those comments probably are not with UPND.

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  12. The Fact is if it was not for Tonga tribalism, Saki was going to be Upnd President.

    This is something we fought in PF when Sata left. We welcomed other pipo to lead despite bamukanfwelwa and co waningt to claim PF as a family or bemba party.

    If Sampa had succeded Sata, PF was going to be labelled a bemba party and who can defend that.. No one.

    UPND is tribal party and NO amount of fronting by other tribe will erace that fact.
    We can have HH as President and the rest of the members are non tongas, it will still be a TONGA PARTY. For this reason I will Not support Upnd

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    • @Panafricanist. Read your posting carefully. You admit the following:
      1. That PF was a tribal or family Party
      2. That you are fighting to change this
      So, if PF started as atribal Party and can change, why can’t UPND do the same?
      Give credit where it is due. UPND is not a tribal Party. Maybe you are telling us that a Tonga cannot rule Zambia? Which is being tribal!

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  13. SO THERE IS A QUOTA SYSTEM IN UPND? A CLANDESTINE PROGRAM TO PROMOTE ONLY A TONGA. THIS IS SERIOUS. NO WONDER

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  14. Reading about #tribalism from PF cadres is becoming boring and out of date. There is no single tribe who can change Zambia’s economy without inputs from the rest of the country. Tayali – you have quoted what Ackson Sejani (former Minister in MMD) said according to the Post of June 7, 2006, so do us a favour by also including a quote where HH said UPND can only be led by a Tonga.
    If Lupando Mwape is finished politically, why worry about him?
    Why can’t we debate on critical issues affecting the economy, this #tribal politics is just a way of running away from critical problems affecting our citizens.

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  15. The upnd needs a deep introspection about its tribal inclination. The strong tribal stench wont just evaporate but will lead it into political oblivision. The poaching of Bemba political minions sufering from financial constraints is upnd”s way of tribal laundering, trying to portray itself as a balanced party yet its inherently ethnic biased to the core!

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  16. Does it mean that if a party is not led by a Bemba or a Bemba-sponsored candidate then it is tribal?

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    • Apparently that is the case. Zambians must be very alert and fight bemba hegemony or that of any other ethnic group. Does President Lungu really have the respect of his party members? How on earth does Tayali still indulge in tribal talk after Lungu issued a directive against such talk. Or are the PF members, like tayali, hell-bent on proving that Lungu is nothing but a lame-duck president? This indiscipline is worrying.

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    • Check comments on ZWDregarding Siamunenes decision to stand on PF in sinazongwe vs comments on LT regarding Lupando Mwape crossing to UPND and from here you can have some slight insight with regards trible issues.

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  17. This tribal thing is sickening for sure. Are people going to eat tribe in Zambia? If politicians have failed to unite the people, they better demarcate the d-amn nation so that everyone can live with their keen and kith. It’s really sickening for people who must be civil to dwell on this destructive issue without considering the detrimental consequences of their proclamations. This is the very reason why Zambia is poor; “people playing the man and not the ball”. Please focus on constructive issues rather than things you cannot even substantiate. Functional illiteracy is a problem in Zambia. ECL has the potential to be a good leader if he receives and considers good advice and changes his management style. We want solutions for the nation.

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  18. This man and the other chap, Cosmo Mumba are Zambia’s political comedians never to be taken seriously. Did you hear what he said? ati: “stubborn Bembas”! The article could have been written by an under 5.

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  19. The president advised the country not to listen to anyone trading tribal talks anymore. So I am encouraged not to respond to this article but rather say, would it not be interesting to vote for a Zambian economic manager, who this time around comes from Southern Province and not Northern, Luapula or Eastern province? Should this be a problem and a matter to ‘debate’ about?? I agree, I didn’t think so either:)

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  20. ..if Tayali wants to be relevant to Zambian political landscape he should dwell so much on his intellectual assessment as to who he genuinely consider to be a better person to manage our economy which apparently is in doldrums instead of trying to ponder on things with no relevance to governance and improving the standard of leaving of Zedians…..what relevance will the info be to me to know that Lupando was once a VEEP or ambassador to China…Saki this Quota that…
    …there so many people ‘hanging’ on the fence or players(voters) without a club…it people like Tayali who are suppose to come up with governance and economical analytical articles to help people make up their minds diligently instead of being prejudice….
    ….the Quota DNA thing aside…can Tayali tell us who among…

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    • …..Tayali, tell us who among the current presidential hopeful is capable of managing our economy which is in quagmire and why have chosen that person..??…such are the articles we expect from you Tayali…instead of displaying your immaturity…your better daughter stories….

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  21. Cosmo mumba is a replica of “King Julian” in penguins of Madagascar. Equally this cartoon Tayali is not different, these chaps are full of fantasy and a feeling of self importance which is only found in mental patients. Today Cosmo has two stupid boys playing body guards, he can’t wait for any state function only to appear dressed like “The king of Suadi Arabia”. I wonder what goes through that mind. Cosmo and Tayali PF is looking for grade 12 councilors kindly apply and stop wasting our time with cheap propaganda and rubbish comedy.

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  22. TAYALI YOU ARE RIGHT WHERE WAS HH? LUPANDO GBM NALUMANGO WILLIAM BAND ARE ALL FINISHED POLITICIAN HH IS KNOWN BY WHO HE MOVES AND ASSOCIATES WITH

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  23. It is little ranters like this ka guy who are bringing Zambia down.
    Anyway, if he cant eat his faeces, how else does he survive! go on Tribalist.

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  24. Don’t insult Tayali just answer to the questions he has raised ,its very healthy for the nation.In order to get rid this tribal tag issue, i think Tayali is right to raise this issue so that these things can be put to rest once and for all.

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    • There are better ways of uniting Zambians using positive reinforcement and not negative reinforcement, such as appreciating different cultures, issuing uniting statements, banning tribal talk, Media houses not to publish or air any tribal propaganda, Churches being involved in uniting the country, tourism businesses speaking against such propaganda because it will affect their businesses if these tribal talks are not controlled, NGO’s being actively involved in uniting communities etc.

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  25. Ackson Sejani who was quoted by The Post Newspaper of Wednesday June 7, 2006, EDITION #3520, which carried a lead story as follows: Southern Province won’t be cowed into silence over UPND succession, vows Sejani…A TONGA MUST REPLACE MAZOKA-REX NATALA,”.

    I was told by some founding gurus that you need two things to understand how UPND functions and how it is held together…you need to hold the party constitution on one hand and the entrenched convention of the quota system on the other.”

    THE QUOTA SYSTEM OF GOVERNANCE IS TRIBAL. IS ZAMBIA GOING TO BE SAFE IN THE HANDS OF THE UPND TONGA TRIBAL QUOTA SYSTEM? THIS COUNTRY WILL DEGENERATE WITH THIS SECRET QUOTA SYSTEM. IT IS A CLANDESTINE PLOY TO BE EFFECTED ONCE WE MAKE THE MISTAKE OF BRINGING THIS TRIBAL GROUPING IN OFFICE.

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    • That is 2006 and we are in 2016, let us move on for goodness sake and promote unity and focus on issues.

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  26. What exactly is this chap executive directing, hear say…and he takes that for facts? Last time I checked Sakwiba (and not Sakiba) is still very much around. Surely he can just have a one on one with him to answer his ‘alleged’ UPND quota system question since he seems to suggest that Sakwiba is bitter after being ‘tribally’ hounded out of the UPND presidency. Who better than Sakwiba (Aluyana) or Chisanga (Bemba) to let us on since these were UPND founding members and in the case of Saky, vice-president !

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  27. Ka Tayali; I am tired of Bemba hegemony and tribalism coupled with easterners lack of seriousness/get rich quick recklessness. Let me try Tonga “tribalism”. It’s my choice. Dont try to shove what I vomited in 2011 down my throat. What matters is how they (upnd) will manage the economy and assert the rule of law so that that my unemployed relatives can give a breather. Yabaa!

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  28. Let Tayali also analyse the tribalism of his PF and their founding leader. The man was not welcome in Southern, western or North western provinces because of his obvious tribalism. Only those who come from the same place call him a great leader. The main parties are UPND and PF and they both have issues but the record of PF in government is terrible. We have not tried UPND.

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  29. Does it matter where HH was (but I’m sure working) just like it didn’t matter where Chiluba was when MMD was formed at Garden House Hotel!

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  30. The truth hates Tayali walasa. They said it themselves that only a Tonga can be president of upnd now after you have reminded them, they want to get upset. Their candidate is not sellable tha’s where the problem is.
    Lupando Katoloshi is not a factor in politics.

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  31. Tayali walasa. What goes round turns around, they thought when they said only a Tonga can rule upnd people will forget it has come back. they need to be strong tribalism has got no place in Zambia now it’s haunting them. They will try to bring the likes of Lupando Mwape to dilute the situation but it won’t work out. the damage was caused by Sejani, Munkombwe…….. so nayo nayo 2016.

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  32. Oh, this is interesting; now the PF Vuvuzela (Chilufya Tayali) is quoting from the same Post Newspaper that PF loves to hate. PF is busy trying to close the Post because they believe everything the Post says about PF and Lungu untrue!! Tayali, please publish that document that only permits a Tonga to rule UPND so people can see it.

    By the way, (Tayali) you posted a wrong recording about HH. HH is suing Times of Zambia and others for saying that He (HH) called Chieftainess Choongo to castigate her for hosting Chama. Restless Tayali rushes to the media to publish a recording where HH is chatting with Chief Hamusonde!!! Cant believe this guy. Get your facts right before dashing to the media. PF must even cut your salary for mixing up their game plan. Lol

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  33. Thanks a lot Tayali for even enlightening most of the people on this matter. Tayali has quoted the media outlet which published the infamous declaration about who should be in UPND, and if others think otherwise, let them also quote the same media article and refute Tayali’s claims.
    Another revelation is that this declaration has been imprited in some secret document called “The Quota”, so those have been doubting what many have said and spoken about must know where the belong, its either you are T0nga to be of any meaning to UPND or you are just being used to advance their cause, you basically mean nothing to them!
    So HH is even regarded a god in UPND as stated “Chief Hamusonde addressed him in the famous phone conversation which both HH and the Chief refuted and they have not said…

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  34. contd
    So HH is even regarded a god in UPND as stated “Chief Hamusonde addressed him in the famous phone conversation which both HH and the Chief refuted and they have not said a word after the recording came out”.
    When people say Kalusa is a Satanist, they think its a joke, here you are, dispute these allegations by Tayali if you can, period! So to those who have been blinded, the veil has now been lifted and you can make your own choices!!!!

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  35. If 20 January 2015 is a good indicator, HH lost by less than 30000 votes to ECL. GBM and LM followers countrywide will easily surpass this number….. HH aliwina akale…..!

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    • @ DePal
      Have your facts right, remember ECL was not known as a presidential hopeful by the people. He took over because we lost our dear President Mr. Michael Chilufya Sata. Your Kalusa Heka, by January 2015, he had attempted to be president of Zambia and lost FOUR times, so people knew who HH was and his intentions politically. ECL came from nowhere and campaigne only for less than 30 days and beat the small god pants down. On top of that, PF was at its weakest politically because of some selfish individuals.
      But now, everything and the ball game have changed and people know who ECL really is, ninshimbi and going by the development PF under his leadership Zambia has witnessed, it would a miracle if at all, your Satanist will even be 1 million votes next President Lungu. This is a…

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  36. Mr Chilufya Tayali
    You claim tribalism is in “their DNA”. Let’s try this. 1. Give an account of the semiconservative DNA replication mechanism with reference to the Messelson and Stahl experiments of the 1950s. 2. State which regions of DNA would code for a non-heritable phenomenon such as ethnicity. 3. Critically analyze the mechanisms of maternal imprinting and show a link between imprinting, epigenetic inheritance and X-chromosome inactivation with reference to tribalism. If you can’t answer any of the above, you most certainly have to reason other than hatred to talk about DNA and tribalism. By the way, the word is reckon and not RECON! Mr executive director.

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  37. This Tayali is one uneducated ***** you put yourselves on his level when you reply to his posts just ignore the son of a butch.

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  38. Can someone kindly ask this nincompoop called Tayali to shut up? How can someone exist just to cause confusion? His reasoning is so shallow maybe he should be playing “ichidunu” with children. Kapuba sana ka tata aka! Wekongwa we!

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  39. Tayali has a point. Our colleagues from the South have big serious issues. Wait until they form Govt (God forbid) then you will know who they really are. Some people supporting Double H are mansons whilst others are doing it out of ignorance. Ask people in civil service or ZP or defence forces who have Tonga superiors if they would vote UPND. check National/Zambia breweries and see which tribe is in numbers are regards employees and give reasons. I rest my case.

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  40. Tayali, in as much as I agree with most of your write ups on this one I will say you are wrong as you cannot jusge UPND on the basis of what was said by the founding member. where evere you are you are not hearing what is really on the ground. HH is having members and a folloxing from all 73 tribes or 74 if you can pput all the mixed tribes under one tag. So on this my brother you have misfired.

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  41. kikik lupando,miyanda,msoni ,pule,milupi.vernon , kabimba ,miles , mpombo, mulongoti ,mucheleka .nalumango, william, mutati,are no longer factors in politic

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    • You make the very cry against it sound like a cheap lie. I pray it’s only an apparition. Otherwise, politics devoid of propaganda is stale and dead.

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  42. This Tayali ***** is demoralising the Zambian People with his silly tribal talk. It is time the fellow went into retirement at the memorial park. Zambia will be better without Tayali.

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  43. No unless you want to blind yourself to reality. Lupando and GBM will have helped dilute the tribal tag because they are heavyweight Bembas whose presence in UNDP we cant ignore. Unless they leave again

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  44. But this ka chap! What is he up to? Useless fellow! Even the name tells the story- Tayali- pffffff!
    Does this id!ot talk about anything of late apart from condemning HH?

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