2016 polls to gobble K940 m, Degree holders without Grade12 certificate to be disqualified

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The Electoral Commission of Zambia has revealed that a total of K940 million will be spent to hold this year’s general election alongside the referendum.

Speaking when the Commission hosted a press luncheon in Lusaka today, ECZ Acting Director Brown Kasaro explained that the budget also takes into account the holding of a second ballot in case of a re-run.

Mr Kasaro said the figure is what has been submitted to the Ministry of Finance and that some aspects of the budget have already been funded.

He said the Commission is confident that it will successfully conduct this year’s general election.

Mr Kasaro also announced that the Commission has set May 15 to 21 as the dates for verification and inspection of details in the voter’s register.

And Commission Acting Chairman Christopher Mushabati has revealed that candidates with Diploma and Degrees without Grade 12 certificates will be disqualified.

implored Journalists to be factual when covering electoral matters.

He said irresponsible reporting of election issues can cause anarchy.

Justice Mushabati revealed that the Commission is still sourcing for the printers of ballot papers for this year’s election.

He also implored Journalists to take interest and acquaint themselves with electoral laws in order to improve their reporting.

He said research by the Commission has shown that inaccurate reporting is mainly due to lack of interest by Journalists to research on electoral laws.

121 COMMENTS

    • This is what is wrong with our society we make laws aimed at specific people. Imagine a girl who hot pregnant in grade 11 and was expelled from school. She later has a successful marriage and business and studies for a BBA surely she has obtained far more than the minimum grade 12? But when you are aiming at GBM et al you become shortsighted.

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    • The question is which credible university in the world can give you a diploma or degree without having passed high school? The ECZ is not saying if you have a certificate from somewhere equivalent to a grade 12 you will be disqualified. The law says grade 12 or equivalent

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    • The point is how do you jump from grade 9 to degree level??? but maybe trades men like plumbers, carpenters etc,,,should be considered because those its straight from grade7/9,,,,,,, Am sure mwaliteta misses Sata the man your helped and favoured ifikopo!!!

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    • The Constitution of Zambia Amendment Act 2016: Qualifications of Member of Parliament:-
      70 (1) (d) has obtained, as a minimum academic qualification, a grade twelve certificate or its equivalent. (Mark the words MINIMUM and EQUIVALENT)
      Surely, Diplomas/ Degrees/ Masters and Phd’s, are above Grade 12 (Form 5).
      ECZ must find ways of verifying the authenticity of all the qualifications candidates will present to them. The newly formed Constitutional Court will have to clarify this clause, otherwise it will look like this clause was put to disqualify certain targeted individuals.

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    • Even Lubinda is OUT – he doesn’t have a Form 5 certificate! Inonge Wina also is a Form2 graduate – no Form 5 certificate! Jean Kapata doesn’t even have a Form 2 certificate because she got pregnant by RB’s son – she has a Grade7 certificate! PF Bwafya!

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    • Illiterate PF MP’s were voting thinking they are impressing people by delivering the constitution. Little did they not know they were voting their way out. Ignorance is expensive

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    • The joke is that we tax payers paid k4.8m to watch the same constitution being signed off while ma MP were applauding not knowing “walila walila mwana nchito za sila ndalama nazo za ta”

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    • Hence the reason we need smart people in Parliament. You can not compare a diploma to a grade 12 certificate. G12 certificate is a big certificate becoz you need this certificate to study engineering, medicine etc. It is a certificate you obtain having managed to succeed grade 7 and grade 9. You can not get this wonderful paper without G 7 & G9.
      This constitution was voted for by these very MPs with diplomas and degrees but did not read it wisely and smartly that this clause will bar them in the next election. If these MPs were smart since they have diplomas, they would have not voted for the clause. We need MPs who read and are smart. A G12 is a start.

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    • As Kuzanga_chami quotes the constitution, the truth lies in the words – 70 (1) (d) has obtained, as a minimum academic qualification, a grade twelve certificate or its equivalent. (Mark the words MINIMUM and EQUIVALENT) -IT SPELLS IT OUT FOR EVERYONE – THE MINIMUM!! Thus if you have a qualification above it – YOU WILL QUALIFY!!! This is ENGLISH – THERE IS NO OTHER WAY OF INTERPRETING IT – this has NOT BEEN TRANSLATED FROM VERNACULAR nor are we using GREEK, for people to be raising si.ll.y arguments!!! So for all INTENTS & PURPOSES, Degrees & Diplomas DO QUALIFY!! Honorary degrees DO NOT UNFORTUNATELY!!

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    • Ama Judges ba Mushabati DO YOU HAVE Gr 12 certificate – INCLUDING A PASS IN ENGLISH?????
      If you DO or DO NOT, you should be standing down for EMBARRASSING & BRINGING ECZ into disrepute, COZ I BET YOU, YOU WILL BE DRAGGED TO COURT OVER THIS ONE – INTERPRETATION BY COURT, is the ONLY WAY OF RESOLVING THIS ONE!!

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    • “And Commission Acting Chairman Christopher Mushabati has revealed that candidates with Diploma and Degrees without Grade 12 certificates will be disqualified.” THIS OBVIOUSLY, DOESN’T MAKE SENSE BECAUSE THERE ARE DEGREE HOLDERS WITHOUT GRADE 12, (OR METRIC IN CASE OF SOUTH AFRICA), CERTIFICATE. THAT DOES NOT JUST APPLY TO ZAMBIA AND AFRICA ONLY BUT EVEN IN THE HIGHLY INDUSTRIALIZED COUNTRIES SUCH AS THE UK, GERMANY AND USA TO MENTION A FEW. I THOUGHT YOU WANTED G12 OR BETTER. SO, TO YOU G12 IS BETTER THAN A DEGREE? DO WE EVEN IN THIS CASE HAVE TO HIRE EXPATRIATES FROM OVERSEAS TO COME AND TELLS THAT A DEGREE IS HIGHER THAN A SECONDARY QUALIFICATION?

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    • THE OTHER THING’S MOST PEOPLE LOST THEIR FORM 5 OR G12 CERTIFICATES DUE TO MOVEMENTS ESPECIALLY IN ZAMBIA WHERE LIFE IS UN CERTAIN DUE TO STARVATION AND MASSIVE UNEMPLOYMENT WHICH RENDERS CERTAIN CERTIFICATES (ESPECIALLY LOWER ONES), USELESS. SO, IF A CIVIL ENGINEER WERE TO APPLY FOR ADOPTION WHO HAS A BSc CIVIL ENGINEERING OR EVEN AN MSc CIVIL ENGINEERING BUT LOST HIS G12 CERTIFICATE DUE TO ANYTHING THAT MSc AND BSc HOLDER WILL BE DISQUALIFIED, WOULDN’T THEY? WHO ARE MAKING SUCH LAWS, ANYWAY? ARE THEY GRADE 12s OR LOWER? AND CAN YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN THE REAL CONTEXT OF WHOLE THIS?

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    • HOWEVER, HAVING SAID THE ABOVE MAYBE THE JUDGE IS RIGHT GIVEN THE COMMON SCENARIO OF HOW CITIZEN ARE FLASHING AROUND THOSE DEGREES AT ANY GIVEN OPPORTUNITY, SAY, IF THEY WANT TO DISCIPLINE THEIR YELLING CHILDREN IN SUPER MARKETS THEY ARE USING THE SAME DEGREES, (WHICH ARE EVER IN THEIR PALMS), TO WEEP THEIR YELLING KIDS.

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    • HELP! I am getting confused now as goal posts seem to be in motion! “Commission Acting Chairman Christopher Mushabati has revealed that candidates with Diploma and Degrees without Grade 12 certificates will be disqualified.” This to me seems to suggest only possession of Grade 12 certificate will count! Not Cambridge Form 5 GCE ‘O level’ or Form 6 but Grade 12! Thus if one say has a diploma from NRDC but can’t produce Grade 12 certificate they will be disqualified! Therefore the interpretation being advanced is that qualifying to contest in the August 11, 2016 is only open to those who got their certificates after the introduction of the revised Grade classification which replaced the colonial Standard and Form classification! What is this circus? The MP’s are quiet and soon…

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    • It does not matter whether Kambwili or GBM if failed by this G12 certificate requirement. The point here is whether your are lawyer, economist, chemist, Physicist, Engineer the bottom line is Grade 12 certificate is the basis of highest academic not professional qualification. By the way only diploma or degree millers will admit you to study for a degree if you do not have GCE or grade 12 certificate or equivalence. So if Lubinda or Kaindu does not have G12 certificate it does not matter. This is a correction point of start.

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    • BA DAKA, YOU ARE WASTING YOUR TIME ON HON. KAMBWILI, WHO WAS THE HEAD BOY AT ROAN SECONDARY SCHOOL. SHAME ON YOU SO CALLED DAKA.

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    • @FuManchu, my ST Marks and UNZA knowledge tells me. Grade 12 School Certificate or Equivalent means just that: London GCE, Cambridge, Form 6. Please seek advice on interpretation according to Parliament’s intention not WHAT EVERY TOM DICK AND HARRY thinks! BGM and other Kabovas in PF are doomed. Too bad HH has decided to be bed fellows with deadwood. The Constitutional provision was passed by the same MPs crying. In Parliament they doze off and rush to sign for “kang’ono” allowance and gratuity. There will be 50+1 drama after 11th August. I am watching.

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    • He has a grade 12 Certificate, he was actually a year ahead of me in Luanshya at Roan Antelope Secondary school.

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    • Let’s examine the old constitution. The minimum qualification was grade 7 and ability to speak English. So all those who had Grade 12 were disqualified because the minimum was grade 7? They were in parliament illegally and must be prosecuted. ZAMBIAN POLITICS and the CONSTITUTION. LAUGHABLE!!!!!!

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    • James Buga, please explain to me, how one without a grade 12 certificate got into college? The give certificates at grade 12 for people with 30 points too you know. What type of corrupt society did you grow up in? hahahaha. It is our nation we are looking out for, so no short inroads my friend.

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  1. Can somebody educate me on this one? What is the logic about employing one with a Grade 12 certificate and leaving out the one with a diploma or degree?

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    • Because it is easier to lose your G12 certificate than your degree or diploma; this is aimed at fixing certain people.

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    • Because you must have a G12 certificate (or 6 O level GCE with pass in English and Maths) as minimum before you can start thinking of getting or buying a diploma or degree..khikikiki

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    • The logic is that one with a grade 12 has studied for 12 years while one with a diploma/degree has studied for 1 to 4 years. Some Diplomas can be done in 6 weeks even degrees some are within a year. So better rewrite my friend.

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    • It seems Judge Mushabati DOESN’T UNDERSTAND THE WORD MINIMUM!!!! We have to check whether that MINIMUM did indeed APPLY to his Gr 12 Cert!!!( i.e. A Pass in ENGLISH – You see, lots of Zedians argue that English is not their mother tongue so they don’t care how they MISUSE IT – sorry CHAPS, we are INTERPRETING THE CONSTITUTION, WRITTEN IN ENGLISH< YOU BETTER START HIRING ENGLISH TRANSLATORS – by the way, NOT ANY CHAP YOU PICK FROM THE STREETS OF LONDON as they may only speak & understand the twang from the EASTEND!!

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    • THE LOGIC IS THAT IF YOU ARE A GRADE 12 CERTIFICATE HOLDER AND YOU EMPLOY A DIPLOMA OR HIGH QUALIFICATION HOLDER YOU ARE PUTTING YOUR JOB ON THE LINE. SO, ALL YOU DO FOR THOSE WITH HIGHER QUALIFICATIONS IS TO PULL HIM AND HER DOWN SO THAT YOU CAN ALSO EVENTUALLY, ACQUIRE EVEN A HIGHER PhD QUALIFICATION.

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    • @2.4 FOTA NKONDE, JUDGES DEAL WITH MAXIMUM SENTENSES AND NOT MINIMUM SENTENSES. SO, IT’S NOT SURPRISING THAT JUDGE MUSHABATI HAS GOT NO KNOWLEDGE WHATSOEVER ABOUT GRADE 12 BEING JUST A MINIMUM QUALIFICATION REQUIRED FOR ONE TO APPLY FOR ADOPTION AS AN MP OR COUNCILLOR. THE BEST WAY TO EDUCATE THE JUDGES SO THAT THEY ACQUIRE SUCH DEEP KNOWLEDGE OF MINIMUM QUALIFICATION IS TO AMEND THE ZAMBIAN CONSTITUTION APPROPRIATELY TO COMPEL ALL JUDGES TO GO BACK TO SCHOOL TO LEARN MINIMUM SENTENCES AND EFFECTIVELY APPLY THEM DURING JUDGEMENT ON CRIMINALS. WITHOUT THAT SUCH KNOWLEDGE IS JUST TOO DEEP FOR THEM.

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    • Yes a diploma or degree is higher than a grade 12 qualification. But if you did not initially have a grade 12 certificate and went on to get a degree or diploma, why should you forget to go back and get the grade 12 certificate to complete the process?

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  2. Iam in full support..too many Matero degrees on the streets of Lusaka.They cant even read or write.Grade XII is the only accurate measure available in Zambia of the citizen’s mental faculties.

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  3. All kids should be given the opportunity to study right through to the twelfth grade bar none. That way everyone has a fair shot. Their subject choices may differ but the real problem is school places which can be bought in our current corrupt system. We have a huge challenge to educate the youth who make up the majority. My two cents on educating future Zed.

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  4. The problem is one of verification. Seeing one could get a degree from just about anywhere these days including one’s own bedroom or from a pub down-the-road, it becomes a daunting task for ECZ to verify the authenticity of these qualifications.

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    • Well they created the law, let them deal with it. It’s not in Zambia where one can obtain an education. I foresaw all this stuff, and trust me lawyers will be laughing all the way to the bank on this clause interpretation. Who pays for this and whether court cases will derail elections, no one knows.

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    • @5 YOU ARE THE ONE WITH THE BEST ANALYSIS. ONE CAN GET A DEGREE EVEN FROM THE WHITE HOUSE AND HOW THEY GOT IT GOD KNOWS. IT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT IF NOT IMPOSSIBLE TO VERIFY AND AUTHENTICATE THE ORIGINS OF SOME OF THESE DEGREES UNLESS ECZ HAS MORE THAN USD250BILLION. THANKS FOR THE ANSWER

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  5. Zambian Education System, you cannot get a Degree or a Diploma without a Grade 12 Certificate. So if you got a Degree or Diploma outside Zambia without G12, then your Qualifications are not equivalent to the our papers here.

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    • @kant neva the bible uses kachema (translated as shepard) as an example of what a leader should be 2 examples 1. The Lord is my shepard…. 2. King David spent so much time herding before he slew goliath it was in his kachema days too that he killed the lion and the bear. A kachema is someone who puts the needs of the flock before self. This particular kachema did his part so well he is now one Zambia’s biggest indigenous contributors to the government’s pocket in the form of tax. so my fellow citizen that is why a kachema would want to lead people

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  6. IN ZAMBIA UNTIL LATER WHEN PEOPLE STARTED JEOPARDIZING UNIVERSITY AND COLLEGE ENTRY; IT WAS STRICTLY FOR THOSE THAT HAD MADE IT AFTER G12. IT IS A KNOWN FACT IN ZAMBIA THAT HOW CAN ONE ENTER UNIVERSITY OR COLLEGE WITHOUT A G12 CERTIFICATE? THIS IS HONESTLY CORRECT. IMAGINE ONE WHO GETS AN HONORARY DEGREE! OUR BENCH MARK TO BEGIN WITH IS A G12 CERTIFICATE OR ITS EQUIVALLENT NOT ANYTHING MORE OR LESS. THIS WILL MAKE IT BETTER. THERE ARE A LOT WITH DIPLOMA/DEGREE QUALIFICATIONS YET THEY JUST BOUGHT IT. ACTUALLY EVEN THE SO CALLED TERTIARY EDUCATION QUALIFICATIONS SHOULD BE VERIFIED AS WELL TO SEE WHETHER THEY EXIST IN THE INSTITUTIONAL DATA BANKS AND FINALLY ALL THOSE WITH THESE QUALIFICATIONS MUST GO FOR NATIONAL TERTIARY QUALIFICATION REGISTRATION FROM THE AWARDING INSTITUTIONS.

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    • IN FACT WHERE DEGREES ARE CONCERNED THE FEW ONLY COUNTRIES I AM AWARE OF WHERE YOU GET A DEGREE ACCEPTABLE GLOBALLY, ARE UK, CANADA, I AM PRETTY SURE INCLUDING SWEDEN DUE TO ALMOST NO-CORRUPTION STATE. THIS IS ALL DUE TO STRICT AND INTEGRATED AND INTERFACED GOVERNMENT SYSTEMS, PLUS OTHER THINGS. NO MINISTRY OR MINISTRY DEPARTMENTS PROCESSES ANYTHING WITHOUT PASSING IT ON TO ANOTHER MINISTRY OR DEPARTMENT AUTOMATICALLY (ELECTRONICALLY) OR PHYSICALLY BY POST. AND THEIR LAW-ENFORCEMENT AND SECURITY WINGS ARE ALMOST 100% UN CORRUPTIBLE. ONE WOULD BE IN SERIOUS TROUBLE TRYING TO CORRUPT A POLICE OFFICER ON OR NOT ON DUTY.

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  7. in zambia its jst logical andif its not enshrinedin our lawsbut itspsychologically agreed that u can not have a degreeewithoutaG12 certificate….its as simpleasthat kwasila…..so if u have a degreee without G12 then u have nothing in zambia……G12 is MUST……..#WE LOVE ECL

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  8. This can only come from the Zambian “kitchen”.
    I officially completed my G12, but I really don t know where I put that ka certificate and I don t recall the last time I used for anything, late alone recall where I have it. Meanwhile, I have done my Masters in Chemical Engineering, I have done my MBA, done my PMP, done so many advanced courses etc and I am a successful person. So according to this Mr. Commission Acting Chairman Christopher Mushabati, my papers are deemed useless because I will not be able to show that G12 thing.
    Think about it?? So I have no future in Zambian Politics …… :-), and I would think many of the educated people on this forum

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    • You can still visit Examination Council of Zambia they will prove that you reached G12. So stop misleading people.

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    • The problem Gen Kanene – WE HAVE TO ASK OURSELVES – ARE YOU REALLY TELLING US THE TRUTH – that you passed Gr 12 – OBTAINED DEGREES & MBA’s, BUT YOU STILL CAN’T INTERPRET NOR UNDERSTAND THE WORD MINIMUM????????????????

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    • That is exactly the problem Kanene. It isvery easy to obtain those qualifications by fluke in UK as it ability to pay for them than qualifying that endures.

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  9. So GBM with a matero diploma in tenderpreuner is OUT… WoW.. HH needs to find a running mate bcoz GBM can’t run..not bcoz is too fat..but he flat on his (stomach) G12 cerfiticate.. This election will be the most entaintaining ever…i can wait..

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  10. There are a lot of Civil Servants without G12 certificate when it’s required when recruiting all these need to lose jobs coz they’re employed by their PS uncles

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  11. It’s a circus in our nation! No one seems to understand these clauses. This one will wake up and says something that suites them. The question remains – WHAT IS A GRADE 12 EQUIVALENT? The government is not being open on this clause as if their aim is to fix or catch someone unaware no wonder it’s own relatives in the ruling party are being affected. You can’t govern a country like this… can someone provide leadership in Government that’s why you’re paid. The Attorney General, please come out and say something… stop politics, you must be above that.

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    • David – NO ONE NEEDS TO EXPLAIN ANYTHING TO YOU – Just pick up a dictionary & LOOK FOR THE WORD “MINIMUM!!!”

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  12. What about lecturers at both public and private universities holding masters degrees, but without bachelor’s degrees? Do they qualify to teach in those institutions?

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    • In some countries such as Holland you can choose to graduate with masters without getting a Bachelors degree, but the bottom line is your grade 12 or its equivalent, some countries don’t call it grade 12 (if you do not understand this research on it)

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    • Truth,

      At UNZA, if you have a masters degree without a bachelors degree you can never ever be allowed to teach there. If you know lecturers with masters degrees but without bachelors who are teaching at any private or public university, my advice to you is: name and shame them.

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  13. Zambians! The constitution clearly states grade 12 or its EQUIVALENT. There are many equivalent qualifications that can be presented to the ECZ without the rubish this Kasaro man is talking about. In fact the examination council are the right people to comment on this and not him. This grade 12 certificate is a recent thing. In our days we had O Levels under superior Cambridge and London Universities etc so can this man Kasaro say we don’t qualify simply because we don’t carry a court of arms on our certificates. I foresee loads of litigation in the courts over this matter soon.

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    • @Kauchingu
      Yes it is equivalent please. Let us interpret “minimum” and “Equivalent”

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  14. ladies @ gentlemen,it’s like the ruling pf(pathetic fools) and ecz are after something else than just qualification but to broke some one no matter what.

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  15. It’s not Edgar who suggested this nonsense. Infact it was abena Mwaliteta and other illiterate MPs who were championing the cause. IF U WANT TO HIDE SOMETHING FROM W NEGRO PUT IT IN WRITING, WORSE STILL HIDE IT MU BOOKSHELF.

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  16. In Zambia someone with a grade 12 certificate is more capable than a person who specialised in a specific field ? as a minimum requirement it might make sense

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  17. Law in Zambia is leanrt by rote, hence my very low opinion of lawyers and judges. Why should somebody with a diploma or degree be inferiour to Grade 12? The law says MINIMUM of Grade 12 but Mushabati then interprets and Inserts ONLY GRADE 12! Shame on the lawyers judges and the whole lot.

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    • @ John Zimba you must be a UPND cadre opposing anything even before reading and understanding what Mr Justice Christopher Mushabati has said. This is the problem with most UPND cadres and MPs because they have online degrees. For any person to be admitted to a university world over you must have a grade 12 certificate or its equivalent… in other words you cannot have a degree without a high school qualification. Continue complaining with your Grand Collision on the people driven constitution meanwhile the President of Zambia Mr Edgar Lungu has delivered what the ordinary Zambians had wanted and its a done deal…

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  18. Talk about a country without direction… It’s a circus as anything goes to fix each other. They can’t even read their own clauses. The thing says “as a minimum”. Yes it is possible to obtain a reputable degree without Grade 12… it’s rare but not impossible.

    Some highly reputable universities consider work experience and tacit knowledge to admit people into diplomas, degrees qualifications. Some even consider your intelligence and IQ. Not long ago I read about a black American who never went to school but went on to become one of the best heart surgeons in the country. He’s smarter than all Lungu cabinet combined.

    Some highly gifted kids can be fast tracked to do university and skip G12.

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  19. What a load of illogical thinking. The ECZ should only be concerned with whether one’s qualification is genuine or not. A genuine accredited traceable diploma or degree is definitely higher than a Grade 12 certificate. What provision are they reading? It says ‘minimum’ qualification is a grade 12 certificate. But there are many ways of by-passing the grade 12 route in order to obtain an even higher qualification. That is why I personally even argued against incorporating such a clause in the first place. It is now being misinterpreted in confused fashion.

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  20. Lungu told us that he was going to assert to the bill even with his eyes closed because the content of the constitution was the wish of the Zambian people.
    Brig Gen Miyanda a former vice president advised President Lungu to open his eyes when signing the Constitutional Bill into Law, but did not want to listen.

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  21. Zambia minimum qualifications for teachers is a diploma.
    Norway minimum qualifications for teachers is a degree.
    Why grade 12?
    Diplomas and degrees can be acquired from un registered institutions and it will be difficult to authenticate the papers. e.g matero university and others.

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  22. So ninshi ba Inonge naba form 2 banabo bakale ikabako shani? am sure so many riffluffs didn’t see this one coming.

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  23. Ever heard of open universities? There are so many institutions of higher learning – many hundreds if not thousands of places higher ranked than even UNZA – that accept students to study without formal secondary or high school certificates. Such institutions have their own criteria of assessing the potential and capabilities of students to study for higher qualifications. Therefore, yes it is possible to study for a diploma, degree or higher degrees without a G12 certificate!

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  24. Yaba why should you present your maximum qualifications when the constitution is looking for a minimum. In short do not bring your degrees diploma PhD no. Just a minimum of the required o levels not even A levels are required.

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  25. CAN I BE HELPED DEAR BROTHERS AND SISTERS: WHAT ECZ AND THE LAW MEANS WHEN IT DEMANDS FOR A MINIMUM ACADEMIC PAPER OF GRADE 12? I THOUGHT A DIPLOMA OR A DEGREE ARE PROFESSIONAL PAPERS AND NOT ACADEMIC. I BEG TO BE EDUCATED ON THIS ONE. AND THAT THE LAW HAS ONLY DEMANDED FOR THIS ACADEMIC PAPER OR ITS EQUIVALLENT NOT ANYTHING MORE OR LESS. THANX

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    • A bachelors degree is an academic qualification..note that for courses such as diploma are professional qualifications. E.g an accountant from CBU when they get their degree that’s an academic qualification while someone who get ACCA and is degree equivalent it is still a professional qualification…

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  26. This qualification was never meant for GBM but the so called people who made submissions to the Constitution Commissions from the Mungomba time. SO please people ask people who sat or submitted to tell you their reasoning. Don’t crucify Lungu for something he didn’t do.

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  27. It’s amazing that all of a sudden the ‘people’ driven constitution has come to haunt the ‘people’. I have visited Lusaka times before and after the constitution being signed, I must say the arguments before and after on this bog have really changed, it’s like an advertisement of before and after drinking sliming pills. One wonders whether the bloggers have changed. Yes people get certificates, diplomas, degrees, etc. without a Grade 12 certificate, but when you apply for a job here they will want to see your grade 12 certificate or its equivalent, even teachers and nurses who don’t have grade 12 certificates are being put on unconfirmed employment until they can present one by the way this has been going on for a couple of years now. The issue of you losing your certificate or having…

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  28. . The issue of you losing your certificate or having mistakenly flushed it down the toilet during a tissue crisis is irrelevant to the status quo. If you are able to get a qualification ‘higher’ than a grade 12 certificate, then surely one expects you not to have a problem obtaining a grade 12 certificate since you have demonstrated excess capabilities. In closing, I would say if you are able to claim that you sent a rocket to mars, one expects no problem in you making a drone

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  29. How does one read for a degree without learning the mathematics, biology physics chemistry or even language like bemba. Grade twelve is proof that one can handle A Levels at degree level. The constitution says ” has obtained, as a minimum academic qualification, a grade twelve certificate or its equivalent; ”. If you learn you language very well, this means what ever qualification you have, start at grade 12. Most degree are fake. Like the one Sata MHSRIP obtained with the help of Dr John Phiri from AIU. Useless degree. It is very easy for anyone to pass degree courses and fail rewriting ECZ GCE ask Kambwili. So Grade 12 is a serious requirement. Those who claim to have misplaced it, ECZ has your data go check. I got mine 25 Years ago and I still have it intact alongside other…

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  30. This is the problem with our education system.I expect a college to authorise people with School Certificates to be accepted as students before doing any course.Most colleges priorities is money.You cannot be an accountant if you don’t know basics like double entry and books of prime entry.You need to know the basics before you prepare company accounts like cash flows and other financial statements.You are not fit to be a degree holder if you are not a school certificate holder.It is a major prerequisite for all professional achievements.It is a mockery of education if we neglected School Certificate as the main entry in all spheres of life be employment or professional routes.

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    • This is the challenge with people who entered Universities through aptitude tests. They have degrees, Masters of even Phd’s but they are functionally illiterate. Examples are there for everyone to see that some people are still functionally illiterate despite the fact that they have big papers.

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  31. The term equivalent means having the same or similar effect. The law says grade 12 certificate or its equivalent. The law does not say only grade 12 certificate. The learned Judge has mis-interpreted the law.

    I thought the law only barred those without any qualifications or those with qualifications lower than grade 12 certificate and not those with qualifications higher than grade 12.

    We know that there are alot of forged qualifications so ECZ should just devise a mechanism of verifying the authenticity of the documents. Each qualification shows where it was obtained so let ECZ verify with such bodies who gave those qualifications.

    Barring people with degrees and diplomas because they cant produce a grade 12 certificate will defeat the very purpose the law was enacted for.

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  32. The G12 requirement is not new in the civil service. For jobs where it’s the requirement minimum qualification, not even a PHD in rocket science will matter without it. So in this information age, this clause is very timely!

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  33. It is morally wrong to have diploma or degree without Grade 12 certificate. How did you jump from grade 1 to univeristy. Only money spinning universities accept grade 7 as degree entry.

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  34. Maikalange.

    Just carry out a forensic examination using the department staffing in the prospectus of respective universities.

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    • I have already done for UNZA using the mot recent prospectus and I can’t see any such lecturers. Maybe I am missing something. Can you help?

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  35. A bachelors degree is an academic qualification..note that for courses such as diploma are professional qualifications. E.g an accountant from CBU when they get their degree that’s an academic qualification while someone who get ACCA and is degree equivalent it is still a professional qualification..

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    • MOST PEOPLE WHO JUMPED THE GRADE 12 CERTIFICATE, INTO DEGREES AND MASTERS PROGRAMMES HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THE UNDERDEVELOPMENT OF ZAMBIA. WHAT CAN A GRADE 9 DO EVEN IF HE GOT A DEGREE? THE BRAIN IS NOT SCHOOLED AND PREPARED FOR STRATEGIC THINKING. NO WONDER SO MANY PEOPLE SO-CALLED THINK AND ACT LIKE TIRED SUBSISTENCE FARMERS! WE ARE IN TROUBLE. IT IS LIKE MOST ZAMBIANS DO NOT HAVE GRADE 12 CERTIFICATE, BUT CORRUPTION HAS SEEN THEM UP HILL TO MANAGEMENT POSITIONS AND POLICY DECISION SEATS. MAWEE!

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  36. What is equivalent to Grade 12 certificate, in most cases for Zambians its a GCE O-Level, if you went to school in South Africa its a Matric. Diploma is not equivalent to G12 its Higher, neither is a Degree.

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    • The problem is how was that Diploma acquired? Was it bought from Matero university? In the past people went to college or university after Form three and passed the aptitude Test. Unfortunately these people are still form THREE’s and functionally not up to scratch. This one is a good one and I am looking forward to a very interesting composition in Parliament after 11th August,2016. So far two down….Mwaliteta and Namugala………watch this space.

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  37. Zambians submitted the clause of grade 12 certificate as a prerequisite to aspire for elective public office, why turn around today and cry foul! President Lungu was right to sign the document because that is what Zambians wanted. If you are a victim of this clause go back to school and acquire one in a normal way.

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  38. BRAINS NOT “BILLIONS” should rule us. We have been used to Form 2, call boy and street kid Presidents. We even need more intellectuals in Parliament. That is why we can not develop. A little fool whose money we don’t even know, lands in a village, Police are still looking for him , builds this and that; That’s our man. The next day he is yapping in Parliament. Any one who steals enough money feels can campaign easily and win. Result? We vote for thieves and their money not brains. African politics. BB, Kalomo

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  39. There is academic and professional certificates.Grade 12 or equivalent is minimum academic qualification.There is also form 6 which is a higher academic certificate.Ever heared of that!

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  40. the constitution says academic qualification and not professional qualification so pliz people have time to go through the costitution so that u dont just talk from without.

    UPND and other political fools the Constitutions says Minimum academic qualification and NOT professional qualification,yes a DIPLOMA or DEGREE is higher than a grade 12

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  41. No one should cry over this law. We proposed it ourselves, and watched it evolve into the 2016 Amended 2016 Constitution. Why should we want to disown it. By the way, this Law is non-partisan ka ! We have casualties all over. WHERE IS WILLIAM BANDA ?

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  42. all u need to have is a grade 12 certificate as academic qualification and not professional qualification pipo ready thru the document

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  43. diploma and degree are not academic qualification but professional qualification the problem with u pipo isthat u dont have time to ready thru the constitution,the words are clear minimum academic qulification and not the oppposite

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  44. The minimum qualification is a GRADE 12 CERTIFICTE or EQUIVALENT (Equivalent means being the same, or effectively the same, in effect, value, or meaning as something and usually interchangeable.

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  45. Grand Coalition, NGOs and Law Assocition are a contributing factor to this mess of G12. They were busy telling the nation that Its People Driven Constitution we want with emphasis on 50 + 1 and the running mate and nothing else.

    When “KING COBRA” may his soul rest in peace, reminded them that where have you seen an ANIMAL DRIVEN constitution, everyone brushed him aside. The oppostion were also in the fore front when PF took the draft to parliament for amendment and adoption that PF should not remove anything from the draft and LUNGU just did that.
    Today were is the Grand Coalition and NGOs ? They are simply quite. They will wake up when the time for REFENDUM comes because, their masters will give them more more money to support the BILL OF RIGHT clause that supports HOMESEXUALs…

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  46. I went to Hilcrest in Livingstone and our group was the first group to move away from the Cambridge exams. It you have the Old Cambridge Certificate, ECZ or any other convertibles like the Matric from SA then you are ok. In the past some universities allowed form threes(3) to enter their institution after passing the aptitude tests just like Hon Kaingu. Unfortunately the current Zambian Constitution does not allow those without the G12/Form 5 or the convertibles like IGSC/SA Metric to enter Zambian politics. I am waiting for Hon. Kaingu to come out clean on this one. I am afraid his Phd is not in line with what he is articulating……G12’s speak nicely and logically which is the opposite with ba Honourable.

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    • We have smarter lawyers than you even anticipate. All shall be nicely taken too consideration.

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  47. This is what happens when people neglect to read and understand important documents like the Constitution. Now they are behaving like the proverbial petulant little kid stamping their foot saying, it’s not fair, it’s not fair.

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  48. Chashupa shani? Its very simple GRADE 12 OR EQUIVALENT PERIOD!!!! If you do not qualify just register to do your O levels otherwise look for another career.

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  49. UPND, how do you claim to have intellectuals in your party when you cannot understand a simple notion as grade twelve certificate or equivalent as the minimum? Every country on the planet shall ask for your twelfth grade credentials. Even Somalia with all its past problems requests you have one. This is the reason I love Nawakwi. She is a leader that is practical.

    Viva president Nawakwi.

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  50. I now understand how corrupt Zambians are. they forge everything including degrees. how on earth can you obtain a degree without a grade 12 certificate. this people driven constitution is working for us, it will help remove corruption in our society. the Bible says you can not mock God, whatever you sow that’s what you shall reap. Viva ECL for singing into law the constitution

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  51. How did they obtain a degree or diploma if they did not meet the minimum entry requirement into college or university such as a G12 certificate. The quality of education in Zambia is under threat! Pease get rid of Matero University.

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  52. Guys, don’t joke. I once had my room broken into and a few things stolen. However, the bulk of my cash was actually in a book-shaped folder that was in a bookshelf and IT WAS SAFE!!!! The MPs who were jumping up and down like monkeys championing the amendments DID NOT read the dayum thing!!!! Haha! By the way, most of us had to submit High School, Tertiary, and Undergraduate as well as POSTgraduate qualifications to be employed at our International jobs! What is so special that a politician must be excused from this scrutiny. Yes, we want to know how you got your diplomas and degrees. Come on! Bring your High School qualifications!!!

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  53. ECZ dont be deliberately unfair to pipo. The constitution clearly states grade 12 is a minimum. Thus if someone has a diploma or degree from a RECOGNISED institution, u would be unfair to disqualify him or her. It has already bn stated that a diploma or degree is superior to grade 12. Stop creating unnecessary controversies.

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