Republican and PF President Edgar Lungu has said that he will not be crucified for embracing people joining the party from other political parties.
Mr Lungu said said that politics is about numbers and those people leaving the ruling party should not disparage him for welcoming new members from other parties.
Mr Lungu said that those who do so are not politicians and that the late President Michael Sata built PF on the back of membership from the MMD.
“We are welcoming people from UPND, from MMD, from any other political party for that matter because that is a culture that Mr Sata left. Mr did not build PF from without. Where did he get the membership from? He got it from MMD. So anyone who thinks that by disparaging us because we are welcoming other is not a politician, politics is about numbers.
“If people in MMD,UPND are willing to work with us why can’t we embrace them? I’m I going to be criminalised because I have embraced others? I know that Mr Sata did appoint people from UPND, from MMD as Ministers. What has changed? So, people who are trying to crucify me for betraying Mr Sata didn’t know him,” he said.
He explained that he was politically more closer to the founder of the PF than some people cared to know, adding that he was President of the Republic because President Sata trusted him.
“Mr Sata was a politician and I think I was closer to him than some people might want to know and that’s why I am President. If it were not so, he wouldn’t have entrusted me with those huge responsibilities the way he did. He knew that there were others but he trusted me, he allowed me to act as President, he allowed me to act as Minister of Defence, he allowed me to act as Minister of Justice,” he said.
He also called on the PF members to work hard and ensure victory on 11th August.
Lungu is implying that Mulenga didn’t know his father at all
He probably didn’t know his father and explains why his father was just happy to keep him as a mere councilor..I think as a father I would be disappointed if my son left my estate to rascals and went to prop up my arch enemy’s estate. The Best Mulenga Sata should have done is at least form his own political party or just stay away from politics for now than being used and abused by GBM. PF has Sata’s fingerprints on it and Mulenga Sata was a potential future leader for PF, could have created a political dynasty like the Gandis, the Bush, the Kenyattas of this world, but too disillusioned. Maybe the Grade 12 story is true after all. It will be tough for PF to welcome him back. Big mistake made
Its not about crucifying you Sir, but dinning and taking orders from RB as we have all seen how his inner circle has become your closest associates at the expense of old PF founder members. If you make the bed, you must surely lie in it.
Anyways, God confuses people before he gets rid of them. Honestly how do you bring close people like Mumbi Phiri, Frank Bwalya, etc at the expense of GBM, Guy Scott, Miles Sampa , Mulenga Sata? POlitics is a game of numbers. These people have a following. Lets see in August if that one % is safe. Plus poverty… awe Kuyabebele apa!!!
For sure Mulenga didn’t know his father very well, that could have been the reason why he was just a Councillor. I really doubt if he is truly a politician, Mulenga should have been the one to benefit more from his father`s vast knowledge but he chose to do the wrong things which is really sad. We are not sure weather he will be really happy with the UPND.
Everything is Sata this Sata that….. Can’t you make your own legacy iwe ka Chagwa? I am sick and tired of Sata who in my own opinion contributed greatly to this crumbling economy of ours by starting huge capital investments projects without proper feasibility study and where the resources will come from to fund those projects hence huge debts which has already started haunting us. Leave the old man alone and run your own race…. This time around no compassionate vote iwe Chagwa
Im not sure whether or not its a right thing to say, but it seems as if President Lungu, more often than not, speaks in the defensive tone and seldom in a commanding tone. I might be wrong, but thats what I have noticed. A leader must inspire the listeners each time he speaks. There must be that sense of inner confidence like someone who actually believes what they are talking about.
Insecure people talk as if they always need to justify their actions. This sounds like an opposition type of speech. More like, you are accusing me of this and that and Im not that kind of a person, kind of talk. People must just say what they need to say and mean it.
A totally confused individual
Dear Mr. Edgar Lungu, President of the Republic of Zambia, the time for you to run on late President Sata’s ticket and legacy has expired. You now must be able to stand on your own two feet, and invoke your own legacy, if at all you have any.
Mulenga did know know his father at all because he could not have claimed that he is turning in his grave when his father started everything that the country is undergoing.
OH, YES IT IS POSSIBLE MULENGA SATA DIDN’T HIS FATHER WELL ENOUGH, JUST LIKE ANDREW BANDA WHO DOES NOT MY BELOVED FORMER PRESIDENT RUPIAH BANDA.
But wait a minute: Are they non-factors????
Mulenga’s defection is a heavy blow way below the belt.
Do not down play it. Mulenga may not be a big political short but he has already influenced reasonable votes in favor of HH. Some street venders I’m told have been heard saying “Abene ba party nabafumamo ngayifwe chinshi tungashalilamo?” Remember if they vote against or if they don’t it’s still to HH’s advantage just like the 2015 elections apathy.
Iwe HH this is not acceptable. ECl was preparing to go to Kitwe & commission construction of a useless shopping mall & u HH unexpectedly threw a punch below the belt. Why not punch to the face & the chest or even an uppercut cos these are allowed? I mean hunt for Davies Mwila, Kalaba, Sikazwe, Siliya, Kambwili, Kalima, Mtolo etc. What wud HH have done if Mutinta Mazoka or your…
What wud HH have done if Mutinta Mazoka or your own Mutinta also defected to PF? Turning your friend’s son against his father’s party is a taboo of severe consequences. HH you’ll be haunted by Sata’s ghost. Please advise Mulenga to rescind his decision.
HH must be disqualified for a professional boxing foul on ECL!
However one looks at it is one of the hugest game changers to HH’s advantage. Remember HH ‘lost’ only by 27,000 votes even with sympathy vote. Now amidst economic quagmire seen by all that ECL is incapable can one doubt that ECL will be clobbered? We have already experienced his failures why continue with more of the same economic suicide for another 5 years? Lets try HH with the hope that a new person will do things positively different. If he fails we kick him…
If he fails we kick him out in 2021. Kaunda, Mandela, Nujoma, Chiluba etc had no prior Governance experience. So the notion that HH has no prior GVT experience is a mere fallacy used as a ploy to decampaign him. We believe he is successful in his business endeavors & hope he will be successful President. politically he has already achieved that feat of holding an opposition party for 10 years just like Sata. Ask Kavindele & late BY how hard it is to sustain a party in oppostion. Even Mazoka himself may never have attained that feat had he been alive. HH is a great resource mobilizer & hopefully he can do that nationally if given the mantle.
Mwaliteta & Mukata’s defections were fouls by HH to ECL’s Lukobo (back of the head)
Sampa & Scott’s endorsements were fouls by HH to ECL’s…
Sampa & Scott’s endorsements were fouls by HH to ECL’s Stomach
Mulenga’s defection is a heavyfoul blow by HH way below the belt (So unexpected. Sata should have been the last man standing in PF regards of his G12 disqualification)
The anticipated Kaseba defection will be a strong foul kick by HH at ECL’s Knees
If his Veep Bo Inonge also defects it will be a sweeper foul kick by HH to the ECL’s feet strong enough to knock ECL down.
Finally the anticipated rumored defections of cabinet ministers & esp MPs from LP & NPafter dissolution of Parliament will a foul Tsunami to sweep him away completely.
ECL please resign to save face. There is nothing you can do in the next 5 years to resuscitate the economy! Results may be long to come but indicators of one’s capability of…
Results may be long to come but indicators of one’s capability of running the economy must be immediate. Indicators include vision, policy guidance, program implementation, articulation of issues, etc. You have none of these. Mwanawasa & RB showed these qualities from day one but off course results were long to be seen.
We don’t need 5 years to tell whether a newly born animal will grow up to be a cow, a goat or a horse. One year six months is enough to know your inability coupled your disastrous past legal history.
Yes, politically.
Yes Anything wrong with that?
Politically, Chilufya may not have known his father. It is that simple. He may not have shared sensitive political issues with him, but with other political family members like ECL. If Chilufya is angy that ECL is welcoming new members, why should he feel welcomed in UPND. It is said do unto other what you want them to to do unto you. This is total hypocrisy and HH and UPND are so blind they cannot see it.
EXACTLY, THAT IS WHAT ECL IS IMPLYING. MULENGA COULD HAVE BEEN MC SATA’S SON BUT NOT KNOWING HIS FATHER. IT IS VERY POSSIBLE. IF HE DID HE WOULDN’T HAVE LEFT HIS OWN FATHER’S CREATION. HE WOULD HAVE LOVED TO PROPAGATE IT EVEN MORE. BUT, I BELIEVE WHAT FRANK BWALYA SAID. MULENGA SATA IS NOT HIMSELF AFTER THE DEATH OF HIS FATHER. HE IS IN A CONFUSED STATE AND PEOPLE ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF HIS CURRENT STATE. IT IS TRUE, PEOPLE SHOULD PRAY FOR HIM. IT WILL NOT TAKE LONG BEFORE HE COMES BACK TO PF AFTER HIS MIND HAS SETTLED AND HE HAS STARTED TO ACCEPT THE DEMISE OF HIS FATHER. IT HAPPENED TO ME, TOO. I STARTED DOING STRANGE THINGS.
I think you may be Deluded Chagwa, as MOST Zambian’s DEFINITELY KNEW SATA & BELIEVED IN HIM & WHAT HE SAID – such as “ALL OF HIS MINISTERS WERE IFIPUBA” i.e INCLUDING YOOUUUUUU CHAGWA!! You were & still are one of SATA”s FIPUBA, he had no other option than to look after you all!! – as per Bemba magnamity – we look after ifipuba fwe su!!
Vote wisely 11/8/2016!! Vote ZAMBIA FORWARD!! Vote UPND!! Abantu baya!!!
#Chagwamustfall!! PamaFikuyabebele!!
I thank you!!
Katondo, it is very clear that you are deranged. Your verbal diahroes only show your sick beyond redemption. remember that the majority Zambians voted for ECL than for Hail Hitler (HH). You should instead vent your useless anger at your own party for failing to convince the people of Zambia of these year. It because of people like you and your insults that make UPND to be a party of uncivilised people. Indeed you belong to Katondo Street, a street of thieves and other criminal minded people. Remember, Zambian politics are bigger than insults. Remember this a social media where no one like you can hide. Remember, you may be hiding in plain view.
I will advise you to stick to mature contributions than insults. Remember we all are able to insult be we believe it is not the right way of…
THE HEADLINE IS VERY INTERESTING YOU ARE VERY MUCH RIGHT LUNGU IS LATE
Chizungu. ati “those crucifying me didnt know the late president lungu”
Don’t worry Mr president We are behind you.Aug 11 ECL nafuti nafuti.
Whose we. Let the incompetent man come run your business or house not make bad decisions for Zambia and allow looting to be the center of work at state house. Zambian resources belong to all Zambians and we ought to respect it. Let alone do what is best for the country not pleasing friends
Wiseman Commentator, Iam one of the “WE”. We are are many!!! Just wait and see on August 11. We defeating this Neo-Nazi saluting HH (Hail Hitler advocate) or is it the devil’s advocate!!!
Chi wise commentator am also part of the we feel that whether aleya Mulenga or not egiga fye bakamba
WISE, I AM ONE OF THEM PLUS MY ENTIRE FAMILY AND FRIENDS BACK HOME IN ZAMBIA. WE ALL SUPPORT ECL WITH COMMON REASONS SUCH AS ZAMBIA’S ECONOMIC DOWNTURN IS NO FAULT OF ECL, IT IS NOT ONLY IN ZAMBIA WHERE THE ECONOMY HAS GONE BAD- IT IS GLOBAL, LUNGU DOESN’T MAKE RAINS TO BLAME FOR LOW RAINFALL, UNIP AND MMD HAD HUGE OPPORTUNITY TO DIVERSIFY INTO OTHER SOURCES OF POWER, PF IS DOING SOMETHING ABOUT DEVELOPING OTHER SOURCES OF POWER, PF HAS DEVELOPED INFRASTRUCTURE IN RECORD TIME ACROSS ZAMBIA, PF IS MOST LIKELY TO DO MORE GIVEN MORE TIME, AND THE LIST IS ENDLESS. VIV LUNGU, VIVA PF, VIVA WELL MEANING ZAMBIANS.
Correct your excellency
The sooner we realize that PF despite being formed by SATA is not his only and for his family the best. Sata has his weakness and to continue talking about him like a saint is worrying. Let Lungu run his party away from Sata.s name and Mulenga,s departure should just make us proud of being democratic nation
Nice reminder.
No one with a brain thinks Mulenga will make great contributions where he has gone. If UPND like entitled lay abouts sitting in State House…should they win,…. they are welcome to him.
There is very little damage to HE the President. This was a bad move that speaks of his bad character.
@6 Patriot Abroad
It’s not the making of “great contributions where Mulenga has gone” that matters, but rather the yawning demise of where he has come from, that is disheveling. It’s what disconcerts anyone who has brains.
@Meimatungu, you have it back to front. Your future matters more in the present. Your past lends a hand to experience you take to the future. Applying that concept which I am sure you agree with, considering you don’t write like someone who moves in life staring backwards….then I sure we can agree that my statement is correct.
Mulenga Sata’s joining UPND is a body blow to PF and Lungu, in particular. It is a kick in the mouth and his exit utterances a further stab in Lungu’s drunken back. It puts questions on Lungu’s judgement of character. It also throws questions on what Mulenga found on PF’s feeding grounds in Lusaka. All he can be expected to be in UPND is a quiet and loyal supporter. Surely he has not joined as chief campaign manager or COO.
@6.2 Patriot Abroad, much as I continue to hold you in high esteem, I am inclined to believe that you will not, in this one instance, betray my trust of your good judgment. What the two of us should rather find difficult to disagree upon is that, whether one is Jimmy the genius or Mike the moron, the future of such a one is an unbridled horse. It always has been. It always will be. So whether one is a Mulenga Sata or a Miles Sampa, it makes no difference.
But if we should see Mulenga Sata, and not just him, Miles Sampa as well; and not just these two, but GBM also; and not just these three; but a host of others – all of them making the same move – switching from where they easily would have been guests of honor to where they may not even be guests at all, it behooves us to ask why? You…
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@6.2 Patriot Abroad, much as I continue to hold you in high esteem ……….You say that for Mulenga, “This was a bad move that speaks of his bad character.” Would you say the same about all the others who are leaving PF in preference to joining UPND? Whose character, I wonder, is on the spotlight? Theirs or that of someone else?
@6.2 Patriot Abroad, I beg your indulgence to illustrate further my point and, hopefully, to drive home, my argument. If a player fakes a foul in the penalty box and a penalty is awarded, the fact that the foul was a fraud becomes less of an issue; and that a penalty was awarded, the greater issue.
MULENGA SATA HAS JUST DESTROYED HIMSELF. OF COURSE THERE’S BUT SMALL EXCITEMENT OF MULENGA DEFECTING TO UPND. BUT, IF I WERE HIM, THE WAY HH USED TO INSULT MULENGA’S FATHER, I SHOULD HAVE BEEN MORE PROUD TO JOIN THE ONE WHO BELITTLED MY DAD. BUT, MULENGA, DESPITE HIS RIGHT AND FREEDOM TO EXPRESSION AND MOVEMENT HAS REALLY INSULTED HIS FATHER. IN FACT IT IS MULENGA’S FATHER THAT WILL BE MAKING THE LATE MCS TURN IN HIS GRAVE. CHRISTINE KASEBA’S DEFECTION DID NOT MATTER PANTU ICIBEMBA CITILA, “UMUTOMBWA TEMYA KULU”. CHRISTINE MWINA KUPWA- KUKONKA UKULI HOPE YACUPO. MULENGA TEMUTOMBWA. NIKATOMBA. I AM NOT CURSING, IT’S PURE BEMBA.
they say the devil you know is better than the angel you dont know,let them crusify you mr president for they do not know what they are doing.God appoints leaders and if your time has not yet come no matter how much they will try,they will not succed.some will go in the history as the longest opposition president.
@7 Sheugnight
You are shying away from the reality of politics. As in soccer so it is in politics – a score, even from an offside position is a score, as long as it is not disallowed. This particular one, is a score president Lungu has conceded.
There is. O score as yet @Meimtungu, because the election has not been won yet due to this contribution.
@7.2 Patriot Abroad, I was careful not to refer to it as a “goal” scored, but rather plainly as “a score.” The game statistics usually include “corners conceded,” “level of possession”, “attempts at the goal – both off and on target” etc…. In more developed democracies, a great deal of attention is paid to respective “endorsements” a particular candidate receives. They are a precursor of what could be in the offing for or against that candidate.
Unfortunately Zambia is not a developed democracy and these defections are no near credible. So HH(Hail Hitler) with his Nazi salute is living a dream land. He will never land plot 1 by making pronouncements at that hotel. He should be talking to the people directly.
Mad president, really!
Can someone remind Lungu that he is still president and his duty is to be working to fix the current problems not talking about Cobra junior or HH. These are not Zambia’s biggest problem. Also, can read why Cobra junior decided to leave. He did not leave because you embraced other but simply you have no vision and leadership skills. In short, you are incompetent. Like I said the corruption levels are all time high today because you are a weak leader. This is what has contributed to the collapse of the economy. The looting is too much. Siphoning millions of dollars in individual pockets has crippled the Nation. He left to save his country from doom. In national interest and we respect him for that. Cobra junior is wise.
You can have the so called young Cobra. He is actually never near the name Cobra. Do you know why the late president was nick named King Cobra? if you do, you will ealise that he is no where near that title. He could be a son of MCL biologically but so politically. HH and UPND could be celebrating political incompetence at its worst.
You outburst and baseless accusations will not detract the majority voters from voting ECL. I have also noted your uncontrolled insults as you write to be the general attitude as UPND people. If you think insults and vulgar language will win elections you are wasting your time. HH (Hail Hitler) with his Nazi salute is welcoming to be celebrating defectors at the hotel, ECL is busy talking directly to the people.. lasti time you tried it by using MUVI and…
I meant to say “He could be a son of MCL biologically but NOT so politically”
CHAWAMILA GALU KU LUMA MBUZI??
Why is it thick necked P.F. buffoons scream blue murder when someone defects from them?? They go on, “He was no factor”, but are happy to receive defectors from other parties.
Mulenga Sata, (good on him) for abandoning the lies merchants P.F, who always scream Tribalism towards others, while forgetting the tribal log in their own eye, never had the Grade 12 issue revealed.
As soon as Mulenga leaves the sinking titanic, which is Chagwa’s new P.F/M.M.D, hey presto, his lack of a grade 12 certificate is plastered all over the media.
P.F, NEED TO GROW UP, & IN THE MEANTIME IT’S KUYABEBELE IN AUGUST 2016.
PF and ECL are winning in August. HH (Hail Hitler) and his Neo-Nazi salute nac continue to celebrating defection that have no impact, ECL will continue to travel across the country talking to the electorate. By the time Hail Hitler (HH) and UPND wake-up it will be August 11 and they will still be at the hotel.
PF is a mature and formidable party that is no time waster but working on the ground targeting August elections with the seriousness it deserves. PF will celebrate victory in August, HH (Hail Hitler) will celebrate defections.
Comment:PRESIDENT MICHEAL SATA (MHSRIP) DIDNT FORM PF FOR HIS FAMILY,If that was the case I didn’t think he could have been president. PF BELONGS TO THE GRASSROOTS and its member are proud of it. PEOPLE WILL LEAVE AND OTHERS WILL JOIN,EVEN IF PRESIDENT LUNGU WAS TO DEFECT TODAY PF members will still CHOOSE ANOTHER PRESIDENT AND WIN THE ELECTIONS.PF its a party which will out live all of us. If anything only those who challenged PRESIDENT LUNGU for party PRESIDENCY are the ones defecting except MWALITETA. coming to MULENGA SATA the reasons he has given are very SHALLOW because he will find MMD members in UPND,PF members INCLUDING WILLIAM BANDA. just because HIS FATHER was a FOUNDER OF PF DOESNT MEAN A SON SHOULD SUCCEED. It took almost FIFTY years for KENYATA to lead HIS FATHERS…
mwebantu let the soul of Michaeal sata rest in peace if he had given a full cabinet position to his son whilst he alive you would have complianed ati family tree , as citizens we must not just allow kaponyas rule us choose creditable people , its pathetic that African leaders cling on to people as though its a monarcy breaks my heart . Abuse of resources at the expense of taxpayer very sad indeed , IMF and the donor community should freeze aid to zambia until sanity prevails
I think a lot of people that are looking at Mulenga as being a bad bad boy by abandoning Pf. A party his father formed, should look at the case in Unip. The man who formed it, abandoned it and yet his son is the leader.He never even mentions it. Who is worse?
@Former Zambian is Panji still in UNIP???Please answer me
Were is former Zambian President son Panji?? is he still in UNIP???Please answer me
Sata can go to hell
VIVA EDGAR CHAGWA LUNGU, ZAMBIAN PRESIDENT. ULETALIKA?
Dr Guy Scott was vice president for 4 years and he contributed to the suffering we are seeing to day. GBM was a minister for 3 years and was also part of the government he is attacking today. Miles sampa was deputy minister for 4 years and some months. Scott,GBM and Sampa what has changed or makes them Angels again such that they are attacking the same mouth they were feeding their pockets with millions of tax payers money, is it that who ever migrats from PF to UPND becomes clean and special.if Chishimba Kambwili was to defect from PF and Join UPND he will become the Angel of UPND.Carefull with who to embrace even when you condenm that PF has become MMD,its the same with UPND it has become PF and i dont see any point of change.
I agree with you. Guy,GBM(Ginger Bread Man),Miles and Mulenga are just frustrated brats Because they lost the PF presidential nomination and are now against the President.you will never succeed you *****s.
There is blindness among the celebrating people. You make valued points.
But didn’t late Michael Sata bring RB, Dora, into the PF? Why bring them into PF after his death and insinuate that Sata could have done same thing?
Its more than a year after the death of MCS and by now Lungu should be telling us of his vision and not MCS’s vision. ECL should tell the Nation why voters should vote for him in 2016. Road construction surely should not be the only reason why Lungu is asking for another 5 year mandate. What is Lungu and his party PF going to do about:
1. High cost living
2. Electricity supply
3. Unemployment currently at 85%
4. Support for farmers etc.
Voters want to know ECL and PF’s offer to the people. People eat food and not legacy.
A Zulu, you haven’t been attending PF and ECL rallies, how can you learn about the policies targetted at high cost of living due to importation of most of our commodities and how this is tied to the diversification policies PF is pursuing?
Electricity supply shortage would have not reached these critical levels if MMD had done their part as PF is doing to erect new hydro stations, generate power from coal in Mumbwa, renewable energy – solar power plant projects, etc.
Unemployment was already at 75% when PF took over power and with a mono-economy dependent on copper as soon as commodity prices crushed, the figure rose to 85%. However, this will be adressed with diversification of the Zambian economy.
Support to farmers with the e-voucher is starting to take shape and the correct…
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Support to farmers with the e-voucher is starting to take shape and the correct intended target for this subsidy are finally benefitting.
The above policies are what makes PF so unlikeable by the money mongers in UPND who if they won would be very friendly to the business community and terrible to the common Zambian.
Viva ECL VIVA PF they are just troubling themselves….
There is a lot of truth from what Lungu is saying. But the battle lines are drawn. If you are an MMD MP in Bemba Land, go PF, South and West, go UPND.
@20 LORD VODEMORT (THE DARK LORD)
You sound lost and disenchanted. Wake-up and stay awake.
Kuipa pa menso.
Perhaps Chagwa is missing a point by reacting emotionally to Mulenga’s decision to cross floors. It wud have been wise of you to sit down and reflect on the problems leading to these defections. Yo poor human relations cud have contributed. I recall you at one time told PF members who were suffocating with yo leadership to leave and join other political parties or form theirs. Also it wud be great of you to offer an apology to yo followers coz leadership is all about followers. The more yu talk, the more yu loose members. Learn to listen from yo followers.
Dizzy he might be or what ever you wanna call him us… For me, having met this guy lungu before he even became president, I honestly think he is a genuine leader….
Mulenga never knew his father, he belonged to the cartel discourse and together with, you know who, thought they could became presidents after Sata senior.
Sata’s trusted inner circle where Lungu, Innonge, Ngosa, Kambwili(yes him), uncle Chikwanda Bwalya, Luo and that woman-Mwanaka..(just don’t tell ba Kaseba please)??
whatever the case and no matter how you look at it, mulenga has messed up big time. he should have gone down with the party his father formed. the ‘hijacking’ in PF is very temporal. lungu’s objective is to purge the party, make a mix grill, it became a bemba clique, ask your elder brother UHURU how it has been. you have to be patient , persisent and tough tested, not imwe ukumitanafye bu MP mwachivivula ati JAMBO JAMBO JAMBO, ba mulenga kuti mwateka icalo imwe? in short bakamaba myafipenya, in UPND you can never be a president am telling you; in PF it was possible. sorry sana ba mule
Lol. True ba method. Ninseka ichinechine. Mwalanda mwinemushi. Nothing more to add.
Fellow PF supporters online let’s focus on the issue at hand winning in August! Ba Lsk let’s have more news on some of the amazing achievements of PF, the new facelift of Ndola City-amazing, the new developments in Chiwala area of Masaiti, the electrification of Shangambo, the new Universities in each province and many more. These are the stories that count!
August election is ours…onward to victory as we strive .. pamaka!!!
2016 ECL nafuti
Just watch your DeadNBC, its all there especially the program hosted by Bangwe Naviley
Do not praise yourself Mr president. Why should you have a problem with madam kaseba? How would you feel if someone coming after you treated your wife the way you have done to kaseba. Conduct a lunch on for all former president’s families. You are their father, husband and whatever.
Is he implying that Sata would by now be dining with Rupiah and Dora. Ma cadres please then why did he convince us to vote those people out. Sometimes use your brains.
“We are welcoming people from UPND, from MMD, from any other political party for that matter because that is a culture that Mr Sata left. Mr did not build PF from without. Where did he get the membership from? He got it from MMD.”
This is the worst statement I have ever read !!! It tells me and confirms two thing:
1> ECL has no vision of his own, he is okay with status quo. He is a manager not a leader. A leader is one who strive to make a difference, a person who strives to transform. I think he can learn from Trump who has defied all the GOP rules, and sticking to his vision on how he wants to transform America.
2> Clearly encouraging Political Prostitution. A clear indication that Zambian politics is not based on personal conviction, whether one is republican, social democrat,…
social democrat, democrat, Ecologist, etc. But it is based on opportunities. Very sad indeed
DAMN , I am sick of this.
He! he! he awe mwandi mapolitikisi
No need for insults folks. Mr Michael Sata ran his race and his name should rest. As for Mulenga, he has to curve his own future and be his own man as he sees it. People that decide to be ”daddy’s boy forever” can not go far.
Comment:It will take lng tym 4 PF 2 go,esp tht de newly formed party UPNDPF cartel has joined.what can one expects frm Mmembe if Upnd forms gorvmnt, free tax 4 him nd GBM wants contracts its jst a bunch of currupt individuls joining upnd 4 dere selfish reasons nd we on de grass root knw dis vry well we ‘ll suprise dem on August 11 nd dey will see hw dey will scater wit no direction 2 go.
Lungu to me you are a good president, but you have made some mistakes.
You haven’t recognised those who mattered in the party.
You should have kept Scott. In the cabinet, promoted Sampa. Mulenga, Sichinga shouldn’t have been left out.
Dora doesn’t deserve to be minister again, those are some of your political mistakes.
Of course you need some experience.
Pf is just good pabwalwa not leadership changwamustfall if it means being killed pls go ahead and kill us. Sorry you are not leadership material but good at getting KALOBA fuseki!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Edgar should be talking about his own legacy now,period…If Edgar died today, none in the PF would be talking about continuity,thats a fact…….
Hypotheticals, I have no respect for these.
Mulenga and neckless kambwili meant big bums good to fart Dora ..lol
Enough about Lungu’s vision or lack thereof. What is HH’s Vision?. And should the personal vision thing override that of the party? Why a nitwits capitalising on this obvious faux pas from Lungu? Faux Pas. That all it was. Everybody has a vision and a mission.
Lungu is a big faux pas on the Zambian political scene himself. That’s why
#ChagwaMustFall
Very swift to respond to useless issues but ignore issues related to the economy and corruption!!
Lets be more analytical than just comment for the sake of it. There is a big difference between President Lungu and PF and HH and is UPND. Whenever there is coerced defection to UPND, we see the whole bunch of UPND so called leaders parading to welcome these “defectors”. I have never see President Lungu and indeed never saw late President parade themselves to receiving defectors because it genuine and your party popular, this should be a normal thing.
HH is the spokes person, the manager, the president, the judge and everything, just how possible is this? Well come 11 August, 2016, Under 5 will know the wrath of Zambians. We all know that the cartel has never relented to fight an innocent man by name of ECL and what they should know is that he will once again trounce them and this time…
While Lungu used RB to win the Presidential by-election in 2015 this has alienated some big guns in PF. This RB connection, decline in the economic fortunes,governace issues and other toxic issues will work against ECL and PF. The rumours that ECL and PF want to rig elections will also work against them. May the popular canditates win
Zulu so how do you want him to stop the rumors it’s you guys in propagating rumors that’s your strategy we know but it will fail
You are right Mr. President. Your Party also needs best brains to run & survive not those none committed members claiming membership for life on silver platter like Scott, Mulenga Sata but doing little to serve Zambians & win more votes. However, you don’t need torush to appease new members like Dora Siliya, Margret Mwanakatwe who add little value, at the expense of old hardworking loyal members. If those complaining of competition were realistic they couldn’t be joining other parties causing similar chaos in those parties, but forming theirs like Sampa.
My diagnosis- Lusaka PF 60% to UPND 40%. UPND winning by slim margins in Kafue, Chilanga and Rufunsa (Lusaka Rural) with PF taking all urban areas. The UPND will lose on the Copperbelt by a margin of 65% to 35% with UPND not winning a single MP in the area. Central Province will be shared almost evenly. Western Province is at play and is a very uncertain prospect. With Inonge Wina on the ballot paper, the dynamics could change drastically for the UPND. North Western and Luapula Provinces will cancel each other out and so will Southern and Eastern Provinces (The UPND has deliberately chosen to include this in its calculations). The PF will win Northern Province, rather convincingly because the only areas they have lost some following is Kasama Central. I still expect PF to carry Kasama…
Ba Tripoli read the heading properly. ECL is the man of the moment. He has humbled himself that is why God has rewarded him and come 11.08.16 God will re-reward him Gen.15:1. Only devils can be against ECL. HH was against MC Sata through out his reign, today the poor Mulenga Sata joins HH & UPND who were rejoicing when MC Sata – MHSRIP passed on because they thought they would rule Zambia by fishing in troubled waters, God forbid. HH you have missed it like Esau and you will cry the loudest this time. As for Mulenga Sata, you are not a factor in politics even your late father couldn’t see it in you that’s why he couldn’t give you any position in government. You are like a son of a business man who is being groomed and upon the death of his father he couldn’t continue where his…
Sure they used to be relatives and even drink with Sata and did not know him? There is confusion here
Please Luapula and NW to cancel each other out…..lord help us LUAPULA is massive…NW is very small voting populas
LORD VODEMORT (THE DARK LORD)
Stop dreaming it is now day time just go and work if at all PF gave you a job. Just wait for August 11, 2016 to be taken to UTH for severe high blood pressure because PF is now a shell, EL won through the name of Sata , now the Sata family is not there for him. It is game over, bye bye PF, personally I do not care who wins the election in august 2016, I will continual running my company without problems.
4 TIMES YOU HAVE BEEN FAILING…NO WONDER YOU ARE A CHAINAMA CASE
I THOUGHT HH SUPPORTERS HAD CONFIDENCE IN THEIR MASTER FAILURE LEADER. WHY SHOULD YOU SO CALLED LEADER RELY SO HEAVILY ON DEFECTORS SUPPORT AND CRUMBLING OF ECONOMY FOR VOTES. WE WILL SEE, WANT IT OR NOT WE WILL ENSURE THAT ECL RULES AGAIN AND AGAIN….
Comment:Ati Pf has been overrun by mmd. what about the 21 mmd who joined upnd. Have they overrun Upnd? And Mazoka is turning in his grave. I don’t trust zambian politicians. Most if not all are opportunists and fake.
Comment: waiting to vote.
Lungu the normal thing civilized people do is thank the person who left wish them well and not utter ill conceived utterances towards them, that’s maturity and good leadership than crying like a little baby. The man made good pointers or great observations about you.if you smart you will make some changes. You are not Jesus and definitely not a saint.Good presidents listen and bad ones are always on the defensive or love lashing out at others.
What is worrying me as a person is that most people or more than 50% of the bloggers on this thread are people based outside Zambia, in others words they live in diaspora. Reading through the many comments one may conclude that HH is winning this year’s general elections, but this is coming from people living or working in other countries. Yes they may influence a few friends and relatives here and there to vote for a particular candidate or say HH for instance, but that may not be enough for him to win the elections. I have seen Presidents come and go from KK through to Michael Sata and I am sure they all had weaknesses as well as positives. I do not hate Edger Lungu as a person but having Edger Lungu as a president of Zambia is the worst thing that the country has ever experienced. In…
In as far as I am concerned he hasn’t got a single positive thing that I can point a finger at and say yes this project was initiated by Edger Lungu. He is more concerned about what he can benefit from the country rather than what he can do for the country. If you look at his cabinet ministers which he, himself chose, is a mixture of chaff and bran. HH seems to be the only hope for Zambia, given a mandate by the majority Zambians, he will perform incredibly well to prove a point that he is actually better than Lungu. Reading through the comment today, this particular posting @1.11 by Neutral caught my attention: “Abene ba party nabafumamo ngayifwe chinshi tungashalilamo?” This was uttered by the street vendors. These street boys and girls are the people who start the revolution, once…
once they say enough is enough, they are unstoppable.
You are tried very much to sound nuetral when infact you are a UPND supporter also based outside Zambia. Those of us who are on the ground especially CB there is no UPND here even the street venders you are talking about know very well that Mulenga Sata has betyrayed his father.What is HH going to do with those frustratted defectors he has recieved to revive this this economy?He will find the same loadshedding, the same debts, the same expenditure in terms of govt salaries so what is he going to about all these which he has failed to tell us up to now! He may just end up blaming PF the whole five years.
Something sinister has crept into Zambian politics.There is too many grudges and scores to settle.There is a new trend of politics never seen before,the phone tapping,the scandalizing,the demonizing.Is this borne out of love for the poor or just a fight of egos for the elite or just people who feel their are destined to rule and have been disowned.As a common man on the street I will never fathom the bone of contention
I hope HH has finally accepted that Bembas are the King makers in Zambia. This should explain why he has accepted bembas enmass in his party. Sampa told him so. So he has now come to help him win the Zambian presidency. Just look at history. Kaunda was made president because of the help of the bembas, Chiluba was made president because of Bembas (He was Kaushi himself), Mwanawasa was made president because of Bembas, Lungu made President because of Bembas. But 2016 appears to be different. Bembas are in both PF and UPND. So which bembas are stronger and more crafty? The ones in PF or UPND? Wapya munzi!
If you form a political party and you want to make it a family affair then don’t register it because the moment you register it and allow other people other than your family to members of that party then it ceases to be a family affair. So those saying my father this? my uncle this? ambuya that? should stop because PF is a national entity just like UNIP is and so UPND and others. Mulenga Sata is not a factor in this election but those who are desperate for votes will think that Mulenga Sata will bring tenfold to their election fortune NaNaNa, he may bring only his family that is all. And if he has no grade 12 then he will remain a member of UPND without any ambition of being MP let alone a minister.
Ba PF why giving us analyses of why Mulenga has left your party when it clearly shows that there is something terribly wrong with your party. Just go back to the drawing board and start afresh