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UPND sacarstically turns down Tasila Lungu’s offer to debate HH

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Tasila Lungu spotted at a PF event
Tasila Lungu spotted at a PF event

OFFICIAL STATEMENT

Tasila’s Touching Offer

Tasila’s desire to try and protect her old man from being exposed during a live TV debate with UPND presidential candidate Mr. Hakainde Hichilema is touching indeed. She has clearly recognised he has no capacity to participate in a presidential debate, as he is not exactly known for his coherence or willingness to answer serious questions about his record in office or plans for the future. However, after 18 months in office we hoped he would have warmed up a bit by now.

Anyone who hopes to represent our country and its people should be more than ready for such a debate. So President Lungu please leave your comfy chair for one evening and come and explain to the people who are struggling in the current economic climate why nothing bad that has happened in the past 18 months is your fault and how you intend to turn the situation around.

Tasila, of course you wish to shield your father from what could be an embarrassing situation, but we ask you to kindly let your father come to the debate. Your own desire and readiness to debate is commendable and as there are councillor debates underway on various media outlets we are sure you will find an appropriate forum to demonstrate your skills.

Stephen Katuka

UPND Secretary General

77 COMMENTS

    • From Chawama komboni, one year in statehouse she thinks she is now clever…. take it easy young lady. You may be too young to have heard of the likes of Castro Chiluba. You will fall very hard, its just a matter of weeks

    • Just remember that you came out of a Vig1na. Everytime you insult a woman just think about your mother’s and your sister’s vig1nas as well.

      Any man who insults a woman is born from a dog because if your mother is a real woman you would have respect.

    • Akamwana ka Tashila is an embarrassment to PF secretariat. Why she got involved in her father’s beer-hall discussion? She really wanted to go and weigh HH & Edgars balls pa TV?
      Does she have grandmother to teach her manners not to play pool with her fathers friends?

    • HH Feared Debating with SATA, understandably so, not everyone is good public speaker, anyway. Public Speaking is a gift and not everyone has that gift. For example in Public Speaking HH is better than ECL but ECL Speaks anyway, and Sata was better than Mwanawasa but Mwanawasa Spoke anyway. If u use it as a means to compete with others and use it as gauge to indicate that u are better than those who are less public speakers than you in everything then that would be a wrong. I think TASILA is better than HH in public Speaking but that doesn’t make her better fit for presidency than HH.

    • TASILA WAS JUST TRYING TO HELP HH SEE THAT ANYONE CAN ACE SOMEONE IN DEBATING. IT’S ALL ABOUT ARGUING WITH EACH OTHER.

    • @cat Power apologize boy. Look now our sweet heart @Nubian is almost undressing. Tasila is too young to be undressed, she not like Dora or Ba mulamu Mumbi Phiri.
      I don’t mind Tashila insulting my stuff, I’ll just go and face her father over a mosi.

    • @Nostradamus
      you are right bro! @cat power, ka sorry would come handy!
      And this tasila wants get involved in beerhall discussion sure!!

    • WHOEVER WROTE THE ABOVE ARTICLE IS AS SUUPID AS HIS ANUS. HOW CAN HE/SHE SAY HE CAN’T ANSWER QUESTIONS. EDGAR LUNGU HAS BEEN INTERVIEWED BY PROPER MEDIA IN FRANCE AND OTHER WESTERN MEDIA AND ARTICULATELY GIVING ANSWERS CONFIDENTLY TO THE SATISFACTION OF NOT ONLY LISTENERS AND INTERVIEWERS BUT ALSO TO HIS COUNTERPARTS SUCH AS THE PRESIDENT OF FRANCE. HH’S COUNTERPART AND DEBATE COMPATRIOT IS RIGHTLY TASILA LUNGU. THERE’S NO WAY LUNGU CAN BE DEBATING WITH SOMEONE WHO IS STILL WEARING NAPPIES. IN ANY CASE ECL HAS NO TIME TO WASTE. HE HAS TO BUILD ROADS, HOSPITALS, SCHOOLS, NEW AIRPORTS AND MANY MORE

    • @ Peter

      Lungu has NEVER been interviewed without questions been submitted in advance. By the way, if you exclude “interview” in France where his handlers had two clear days to prepare “answers”, which “…other western media…” has Lungu faced?
      Your loyalty to him is commendable notwithstanding your propensity to crap in public.
      Instead of Listerine, please try to wash your mouth with Jik!!! It may remove taste of soiled nappies from your mouth!!!

    • This is truly PF machinery failing to think beyond their noses. How this poor soul think of debating with a person raising for presidency when she is going for council representation in Chawama. One wanders who advises who in PF kashi?

  1. Lusaka Times, where is the sacarsim in this statement? The people of Zambia want to hear their President debate his challengers. Tasila Lungu is not the president.

    • There is certainly no sarcasm from UPND, rather the tone is that of a kindly understanding mature adult knowing fully well the mental challenges of the young woman. If a retarded child shook his fist and threatened to clobber you would you retaliate by flying off your handle and hit back? It’s sometimes difficult to appreciate LT journalistic efforts. It’s like somebody with a gun forced them to go into this business against their wishes. From grammatical errors and misspellings to wacky out of context headlines, it’s all in a day’s work for them. No pride in their profession, if you could call it that.

  2. Chiluba had a son who thought he was also the Head of State, what happened to him after his dad left office. Young bitch dont grow you were nothing and are still nothing even if you have got stolen money. You are busy sleeping with all characters even the convincted child difler. Married men like Sampa and Kaizer who doesnt know what you are doing. Just because you are bonking Old man doesnt make you old and matured. How can you disgrace your father by offering to debate on his behalf are you accepting he is dull and clueless. You know that his days are numbered even if he wins he will go down as the worst President. If he has failed to mange the economy before IMF comes what will happen to Zambia after it comes in. Zambian Dollar is coming worst then Zimbabwe and you will see Zambian…

  3. Continue talking while ECL is Sontaling (You shall know them by their fruits). Talk is cheap and adds no value to development.

  4. I think HH himself is not well versed in terms of answering questions especially about himself as witnessed on a RSA TV show….its alright to attack but one should also be good at defending.

  5. HH is scared by a little girl?

    He could have used her to send a message if he had any to the girl’s dad.

    Missed opportunity.

    As for those who only know how to insult, shame on you. Ninshi mwafulwila?

    • “…HH is scared by a little girl?…”

      And “wise”, “humble”, “visionary”, “chosen one” and CONVICTED EMBEZZLER has decided to hide behind same “little girl” to avoid facing HH in a live debate???
      WOW!!!
      You should add title of the “CHICKEN” to your CONVICTED EMBEZZLER “wise”, “humble”, “visionary” and “chosen one” leader!!!

    • What the fuc* iwe chi Zenj? Who is scared of who here? You think that thing called Tasila can outwit HH? Atase ba Kembo imwe. Ifyabupaba. Let that thing debate with its fellow councillors. Ma rubbish

  6. Very humorous statement from ba Stephen Katuka, I needed a good laugh on a long tiring Friday evening:-) Pity….we will never know how HH and ECL debate would have gone. Anyway, we are now focused on ensuring that we turn up real early on 11th August, from South Africa and elsewhere, and vote for HH, GBM and all the UPND winning team!

  7. I sincerely believe some people become insulting because they’re unable to compose a convincing argument and so they end up embarrassing themselves by becoming belligerent. If your goal is to present a counter suggestion, idea or even to debate, then lacing comments with insults nullifies any useful input you may have. You effectively ruin an opportunity to give thoughtful feedback. It’s a sign of incompetence.

    • @ Lutuku…
      Read the blog above yours from why use insults. That’s a perfect and fitting description of ”YOU”…retard!

  8. If it was Muliokela who posed a challenge to SUNNY CHINTOMBWA, ba Kalusa would have grabbed the opportunity and made a advert out of it to air on NYIRENDA’S matuvi tv.who can match TASILA’S standard among KALUSA’S children if he has any.

  9. Almost all Zambian presidents produce uncouth and disrespectful brats: Castro, that murderer KK kid, and now this Tasila. Perhaps in her case, we should be empathetic and understand considering the drunken homestead she grew up in, with her father’s staple food being beer indulged in from morning to kumachacha, there must have been barely time to bring up a kid properly. She is already jumping the gun and wants to take over from her dad. Is everything alright there in Zambia?

  10. THERE IS NO DEBATE THAT HH CAN OFFER THAT WILL BE SOUND AND ARTICULATE AGAINST LUNGU EDGAR

    HH IS VERY MECHENICAL IN HIS ECONOMIC ANALYSIS HE DOESNOT UNDERSTAND THE EXPOSURE OF ZAMBIA ACCOUNT BALANCES AND CAPITAL ACCOUNTS IN THE GLOBAL AND REGIONAL MARKETS IF YOU CAREFULLY LISTERN TO HIS COMMENTS AS HE CAMPAIGNS

    EDGAR LUNGU IS ACTUALLY SOUND AND HIS MANIFESTO WELL ALIGNED TO NATIONAL PLANS NOW IF YOU SIMPLY CHECK THE 10 POINT PLAN BY HH YOU WILL SEE THE DIFFICULTIES THAT COMES WITH IT TO UNWIND THE ECONOMIC CYCLE THAT ZAMBIA AND MARKETS ARE CURRENTLY IN THAT IS WHY TASILLA IS CORRECT TO OFFER HERSELF TO CAMPAIGN AND NOT DEBATE AS YOU CAN ONLY…

    • Remember lungu was speaking to empty seats at the UN most people left and his speech was all over the place. For your own information Lungu has shied away from meeting diginitaries who seek to see him. Just 2 weeks ago a high ranking official in the obama administration travelled all the way to Zambia to try and meet the president and foolish Lungu declined. We cant have such a person for a president who wants to choose who to see or interview with when we need so much help, he can take his chipale back to chawama.

  11. DEBATE WITH A PERSON WHO HAS NOT ACHIEVED ANY NATIONAL OUTPUT

    IN THIS CASE EDGAR LUNGU AND PF HAVE ACHIEVED AND WILL ONLY NEED A SLIDE TO SHOW CASE THE INFRUSTRUCTURAL AND ECONOMIC ACHIEVEMENTS THAT PF HAS MADE SO TASILLA STOP WASTING YOUR TIME TO CALL FOR DEBATE WITH HH AS HE HAVE NOT ACHIEVED WHAT HE CAN SONTAPO OKAY STOP HE HAS NOTHING TO OFFER AND POINT PHYSICALLY EXCEPT THE VERBOS THAT HE WILL MEMORISE FROM INVESTOPEDIA STOP OKAY

    THE DEBATES FOR HH IS FULL OF POMPOSITY AND SHALLOWNESS TO BE MEANIFUL ABOVE ALL AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN CALLED EARLIER AT THE START FOR PEOPLE TO CAREFULLY COMPARE

  12. WE WILL ASK NAWIKWI TO DEBATE WITH HH AS BOTH ARE NOVIS AND THE TWO HAVE NEVER DELIVER IN THE SIT AT STATE HOUSE

    YOU WILL AGREE THAT NAWAKWI EDITH WILL BE MORE ARTICULATE AND TO THE GROUND THAN THE OFF TANGENT OFF LINE HH

    HH NEEDS TO GO TO HARVARD OR PRICETON OR YALE OR OXFORD OR LONDON SCHOOL OF ECONOMICS FOR HIM TO UNDERSTAND

  13. EDGAR WILL NEED NOT TO GO VERY FAR TO DEBATE WITH HH AS HE HAS SLIDES AND WELL-SCHOOLED IN ECONOMETRICS IF HH HAS FAILED TO ANSWER AND SHOW US HOW MERGERS AND ACQUISITION RESTRUCTURING OF MINES AND CORPORATES ARE BEST DONE IN FINANCIAL DISTRESSED CONDITIONS AS THESE IN MANAGING THE GLOBAL MELT DOWN DURING THOSE FINANCIAL CRISIS HE WAS PART OF YOU EXPECT HIM TO DEBATE ARTICULATELY NOW ON THE CONTRARY HH IS NOT A SUCCESSFUL BUSINESSMAN AS HE LACKS CREATIVITY IN BUSINESS AS YOU SEE FROM ZAMBEEF AND LUSECOLD
    CAPITALISING ON THE ZAMBIAN GOODNESS HH THINKS HE UNDERSTANDS HE DOESNOT UNDERSTAND LOOK AT THE WAY HE COMMENTS ON STRUCTURE AND POSITION…

  14. OF EVENTS IN GLOBAL CAPITAL MARKETS ESPECIALLY AS IT RELATES TO BONDS AND FOREIGN EXCHANGE IMPACTING ZAMBIA ITS COMPLETELY OUT OF THE GLOBAL BUSINESS CYCLE AND ONLY FOR POLITICAL MILEAGE AND WITHOUT SINCERELITY THAT IS WHY EDGAR LUNGU SHOULD BE TRUSTED AND PEOPLE NOT BRAIN WASHED

    • Congratulations!!!
      You have explained eloquently that Lungu cannot face even “failure” as HH in a live debate due to the realization of his absolute lack of intellect!!!

  15. Why expose yourself to cheap point scoring if you can avoid it? Cameron used to refuse to debate with Milliband. Gordon Brown made a mistake to accept a debate with Cameron and regretted it.

  16. MWENE MUSHI ITS HH WHO DOESNOT UNDERSTAND ECONOMIES IN DEFICIT OR SURPLUS HAVE TO BE RUN IN SUCH A WAY THAT PARITY CONDITIONS ARE IN LINE AND RECYCLE WITH GLOBAL ITS NOT LIKE THE CLOSED ECONOMY IN THE TEN POINT PLAN

    THE TEN POINT PLAN IS NOT ACHEIVABLE JUST LIKE THE SOCIALISM BY RAINBOW ITS SIMPLY A FALLACY BA MWENEMUSHI

    • But GRAND CORRUPTION and EMBEZZLEMENT are way forward?

      Do you realize shallowness of your own intellect?
      Even Lungu can formulate better answer to justify his political cowardliness!!!

  17. IF YOUR COLLEAGUES HAVE BUILT SCHOOLS OR ROADS OR HOSPITALS NEAR THE PEOPLE WHERE THEY STAY IS IT NOT REDUCING THE COST OF LIVING AND BUSINESS HE IS TALKING ABOUT IN CHAWAMA

    PF HAS UNLOCKED ZAMBIAS POTENTIAL AND MADE IT MORE ROBURST FOR ANY WHO WHAT TO PROFIT HH CANNOT SEE THAT AND WHATS TO BLIND EVERYONE RED

    THE NEXT STEP FOLLOWING UNLOCKED POTENTIAL IS TO ACTUALISE BUSINESS POTENTIAL TO BENEFIT AND IMPROVE PEOPLES LIVELYHOOD

  18. In politicks Tasila and HH are the same. They are all babies that have never held any position in government and know little about what takes place in their. Lungu is far senior in this game. Let HH face Tasila. Oyopanji Mambala.

  19. GRAND YOU ARE CORRECT HE IS ALWAYS ON THE TAIL SIDE HE CANNOT DEBATE INTELLIGENTLY THAT IS WHY HIS POLITICAL MESSAGES ARE DEVOID OF UNDERSTANDING THE ECONOMETRICS IN ZAMBIA’S GDP MEASURES AS SEEN IN REAL PER CAPITA GDP,GDP GROWTH PROSPECTS GLOBAL AND REGIONAL,INFLATION AS A TARGET MEASURE TAKING THE RATES IN THERE,LOOKING AT POPULATION GROWTH AS A FACTOR OF EXTERNAL DEBT RELATING THAT ALSO TO FISCAL BALANCES AS A MEASURE OF THOSE GDP TO THEN CLOSING IT UP TO RECONCILE HIS STATEMENTS TO ZAMBIAS CURRENT ACCOUNTS AND RESERVES AND WHAT SHOULD BE HIS RIGHT POLICIES TAKING OVER FROM PF IN CASE

    YOU WILL SEE THAT ITS ALL LIES AND DECEIT FROM HH

  20. If good at gab is a criteria for a leader to be good, we had a wonderful ‘One of the greatest orator’ Zambia ever produced, Mr. FJT Chiluba. What did he do to Zambia and Zambians?

    We have a biggest orator in business community by the name of Dr. Rajan L Mahtani. What did he do to Zambian economy? Biggest money launderer of African continent.

    Contrast this with Mwanawasa, stammering President and he put Zambia back on economic recovery, corruption free path to world community.

    All those talking of HH being good shall look into mirror of Chiluba using Valentine and Hakainde in manipulating the whole process of privatisation. In the process Valentine and Hakainde, Sata, Milambo, Margaret Mushipe, Silwamba made billions and stashed away in Mauritius, cattle and financial outfits…

    • Unfortunatley pa Zed that is the yard stick..eloquence! Eloquence does not mean intelligence. Bob Sichinga is one gifted person but he all the time fails to run a ministry!

  21. I was personally expecting support for a fellow youth trying to challenge old politicians who seem not to be growing up politically, but most of what I’ve read really shows Zambian youths are not ready to take up the challenge. Wake up from your slumber, reduce on alcohol intake and reach for political leadership. Stop hero worshipping and give support to youths who show interest in politics. No one on this forum can say they are not interested because all your posts are political abena Mr and Mrs iknowitall. Ifyalo twa ikalamo fyabene…we will go back one day elo tuka wayewaye mu cairo road nefisungu.

  22. I wouldn’t consider this to be a “debate” per se, rather just a platform for aspiring presidential (and indeed other) candidates to articulate matters concerning the development of the nation under their leadership, and approaches they wish to take. Well, they at least owe it to the people they wish to lead. They must have a clear and transparent agenda (and our law should allow us to call them out should they fail to deliver on the promises they are making now during campaigns). Tasila jumping to such an occasion therefore is a slap on the Zambian people’s faces, given that she is not the one to take the pilot’s seat but her father. Electing a leader is a serious business, and our leaders must respect the people they wish to lead. A leader must be a servant. We must start holding…

  23. DarkMatter, your argument is vague. Do you want to say that Tasila’s move is wrong? If so, when is the right time? She has at least shown courage to debate with a presidential candidate while aspiring to be a councilor. The problem I’ve noticed from most frequent bloggers on LT is they always have negative and mostly disrespectful comments, even towards leaders who have been given the responsibility by majority Zambians to take care of our country. Where are our principles as Africans? Since when did we start insulting and calling our fathers and elders names olo niku side? The moment we realize where we come from the better. This P.H.D syndrome should not exist amongst people who have been exposed in life. People who live in developed countries. Like it or not, we are a third world…

    • Bamwine so you will foolishy take financial and maritory advice from children like these when you have lived longer than they do and are a bread winner. Right now Tasila is a free loader, surving on her father’s sweat. Until such a time when she can take care of herself will I or you consider her ideas good right now her point of view is based on her spoiled life style, free money and stuff. Dont forget that she is a child and if you were to follow her around you will be put off by childish behavior.

  24. Only in Zambia can a dtr of a sitting president have the audacity to challenge those opposing. how disrespectful is this, uncouth and all things bad. and to some of you that think that this is appropriate, think twice, can any of you take your children to work and have them represent you??? this is what is wrong with some Africans, the inability to analyze important issues is what holds us back all the time. there is complete lack of seriousness in all matters. is this the kind of life you want your children to live?? so annoying

  25. You mean this is the thinking of this small girl? She doesn’t understand the meaning of Presidential Debates? How silly!

  26. There is saying which says do not argue with a fool people might not notice who is a really fool, so looking at the way HH has been behaving of late, who in his right mind can have a debate with him. The guy is just too full of himself he think he has it all, why should we subject highest office to be little by some like him for the all world to see e.g what he did at Mulungushi was not much to desire. In short HH has got no respect to office of the president so be it we cannot give him a chance to insult the president just in the name of a debate. That is why someone who can behave like him is offering to debate with him. Once he starts insulting she will also do the same. The man of God, ECL cannot do that.

  27. With due respect to UPND’s SG Stephen Katuuka’s response to Tasila’s offer to debate on behalf of her father live on Electronic Media. I think the young lady has gone offside/too far. Since when did children start debating on serious national issue on behalf of their parents holding high public positions. All we have seen from Super Ken to late Sata is in rear instances children coming in solidality with their parents. I wonder if this girl is normal, all her brothers are zee. Let her debate on her position at local level. The best I can advise Tasila is to help in the campaign effort of her father just like her mother Easter is doing is the best. I really commend the first lady for being behind her husband during this crusual period.

  28. My two year old son can also debate with the UPND’s HH. He can tell him how hollow his 10 point Plan is.What Tasila is saying is that HH lacks the caliblre to debate with her father. Period. It is Only in Southern Province wer they think HH is God .

    • Absolutely Right Toni. Katuka is not getting it at all! He is too dull to understand the gist in Tasila’s challenge. HH is under five and can only debate with under fives. Better to look for under fives to debate with HH on Christianity. The Satanist might see sense in prayers from Sunday School Toddlers.

  29. Just leave the girl alone. She knows HH has a small mind which is true according to the 10 points plan. Has he ever made sense in his manifesto? the answer is no. I even question the caliber of his followers
    HH will never ever rule this country. zambia is for Christ. Freemason back to sender

  30. They say respect is earned you don’t force one to respect you. And Tasila knows that HH can not be respected because of his backwardness in his political speeches. How does he tell chingola women to deny their husbands conjugal rights if they choose to vote for PF. Does that make sense to you?

  31. HH has destroyed GREAT ANDERSON MAZOKA’S VISION. HE HIJACKED THIS POSITION FROM SEKWIBA OR CHISANGA WHO WERE POTENTIAL SUCCESSORS OF THE DEPARTED UPND FOUNDING FATHER…..IT PAIN ME WHEN I SEE TONGA SUPPORTING HIM ON TRIBAL GROUNDS. I FAIL TO UNDERSTAND THESE TRIBALMEN AND WOMEN.. NO MATTER HOW MUCH EDUCATED THEY MAY BE, BUT THEY JUST FOLLOW BLINDLY…

  32. HH has destroyed GREAT ANDERSON MAZOKA’S VISION. HE HIJACKED THIS POSITION FROM SEKWIBA OR CHISANGA WHO WERE POTENTIAL SUCCESSORS OF THE DEPARTED UPND FOUNDING FATHER…..IT PAINS ME WHEN I SEE TONGAS SUPPORTING HIM ON TRIBAL GROUNDS. I FAIL TO UNDERSTAND THESE TRIBALMEN AND WOMEN.. NO MATTER HOW MUCH EDUCATED THEY MAY BE, BUT THEY JUST SUPPORT TONGAS PARTY….

  33. I grew up during favourable governments of KK for free education and equal opportunity, FTJ for democracy and free markets, LPM for debt cancellation and economic stability. Therein I flourished, worked hard and became rich.

    Neither HH nor Lungu will make me move from richville to komboni. A Lungu presidency favours we the rich to getter richer and conversely for the poor.

    However, this is not about the few lords getting fatter in body and pockets! This year for sake of a bright and corrupt free future for my grandchildren, I am voting PF out and voting in UPND and HH. Zambia must not go down as Mugabe’s Zimbabwe.

    Lungu is from Mugabe template. An unmitigated disaster for future generations to come. He has burdened posterity with irredeemable Euro bond debt and poverty…

  34. So what is sacrstic about this statement. I would not have been so polite to Tas if I were Katuka. She needs real response perhaps from ALANGIZI…..

  35. Tasila comes from a dysfunctional family her behaviour tells s story. She has no respect for elders. Mwaiche tekanya sana your dad’s position as a president is temporal, don’t let your dad’s position go to your head. You are nothing.

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