Poorly conceived use of legal systems sometimes plunges countries into turmoil. In Zambia, let us not experiment with the law and politics. The electoral majority legally voted for Edgar Chagwa Lungu.
Remember the George W. Bush elections in Georgia and ballot boxes in church yards. There was no Acting President. It’s 50%+1.
Lungu should be sworn-in and the courts should do their part, albeit, performing the role of peace makers.
Let us not pay a blind eye to the judicial activism that is creeping through the window into political rule. It is a dangerous trait.
In life, people throw stones at a mango tree that bears good fruit! Chagwa is that tree right now. Let us defend our democracy. The future is on that Tree despite the maneuvers of some people who want to bring our future down with their middle aged battle zone tactics.
The silent majority that voted lawfully for Chagwa cannot have their vote trashed through our deficit of political will to defend their collective and decisive act of voting for Lungu with more than 50+1.
To ignore the will of the electoral majority would be a traversity of democracy.
Yes, the law must and should be respected, however, it is equally true that what the law cannot properly handle remains a preserve of the people.
As such, the political constitution of government is the sovereign act of the people. Hence any judicial review of procedural questions of mistakes of a process cannot and must not invalidate the substantive will at stake; the lawful election of Edgar as President until August 2021 .
As Observers have rightly noted, it can only help in improving future processes. This is not a matter of law as such but of policy consideration. The effect by the court not to heed this humble opinion especially against the background of mindsets like the Dundumwezi factor may lead to unintentional chaotic outcomes and widespread emotional damage.
Edith Nawakwi could as well be right. What needs to be looked into is by what means was the Dundumwezi outcome made possible? Was it by sheer appeal of the UPND manifesto to voters in the affected regions?
I suggest that those involved in handling “concerns” do so in a responsible, creative, anticipatory and visionary manner that would resolve the outcome into a state respectful of the will of the majority.
If all regions had done a “Dundumwezi” would the outcome be any different? Edith Nawakwi could as well be right. What needs to be looked into is by what means was the Dundumwezi outcome made possible? Was it by sheer appeal of the UPND manifesto to voters in the affected regions?
I have no evidence to answer this vexying question but any reasonable man on the street might be excused to suspect something less than politically right was being used materially or symbolically; that is, in words including perhaps, a hate campaign.
We have a dangerous situation at hand. We are in fact in murky waters that we have never before been in. Let no one ignite the wrong match stick!
At a time like this, our Clergy must come together and set up dialogue symposium. They are an important factor in reading our national sensibilities than may be possible with a newly constituted judicial organ; respectable as the learned court might be.
Our legal fraternity know that decisions of court that break new ground come from Judicial authorities who read into both the law and policy.
It takes courage and wisdom and not merely intellect, to depart from established legal positions.
Our courts are just beginning to handle us in a new constitutional order. I urge that if they have to err, rather it be in the interest of peace than poisonous technicality.
Let there be peace and let the substantive will of the masses prevail.
I pray for civility and peace on the motherland.
Katele Kalumba, Dr.
Chienge District
Luapula Province.
When is the judgment in his appeal cases this ***** we should not have criminals like him commenting on national issues.
Nega nega tug hasn’t worked for the PF. Neither will Dundumwezi. Zambians are more intelligent than that. They know that ECL never even campaigned in Dundumwezi. they know that nothing has been seen from PF government in Dundumwezi and yet you expect them to give you votes. Stupid.
Poverty and democracy do not mix, everyone is looking for a piece of cake from the guys in government, so the reasoning is compromised because if you say the opposite then you will note get that piece of cake, Look at how everyone is praising the guys in government, its not that all is well its because everyone wants a share of the cake, In short make the people poor and you can control them, This is what PF is doing.
Excerpt from “Kashikulu Mwankole!”
There is a general belief that some of Africa’s long serving leaders, only manage to hold on to political power that long, on the sustenance of the magical powers of witchcraft. Examples of such leaders though few and rarely established include Zimbabwe’s Mugabe. The case of Zambia’s Katele Kalumba who hid in a rat size hole at his farm, while on the run from police is well documented in the press and police arrest records.
Katele Kalumba, former foreign minister, vanished for three months after his arrest was ordered on charges of plundering the nation’s resources. Despite the best efforts of a large team of police and reported sightings from as far as Belgium, he was living undetected in a tent on his farm in north-western Zambia.
Police say…
…….Police say witchcraft lay at the heart of his elusiveness and they displayed an assortment of “magical objects” found in his tent when they finally caught up with him.
I thank you!!
He is a citizen and entitled to comment on national matters. Who are you to refrain people from commenting on national matters in their country? Ubupuba
It’s a pity that even convicted criminals have no shame to comment on important issues they seem not to understand well. Kalumba you have yapped a lot without saying anything. Sorry.
WE NDOSHI WE JUST SHUT YOUR MOUTH.EVIL MAN DIE A PAINFULL DEATH.
UPND HAS MORPHED INTO UPBB (UNITED PARTY FOR BANTU BOTATWE)
THE RECENT ELECTIONS TESTIFY TO THAT. THERE IS NOTHING “NATIONAL” ABOUT THE CURRENT UPND: MAY BE WHEN MAZOKA FORMED IT BUT AS AT PRESENT YOU HAVE TO BE TONGA TO BE ITS PRESIDENT AND ITS VOTERS ARE CONCENTRATED IN THE WELL KNOWN PROVINCES WHILE THEY ARE PENETRATING OTHER PROVINCES.
SHAME!!!
Ba Katele, I’m trying to see your wisdom in what you have written. However, the growling of your hungry stomach is disturbing me. You want the will of the people to prevail yet you discourage those who vie to establish the true will of the people. I thought you would be wise enough to see that calling for stakeholders to abandon the legal course of verifying beyond any reasonable doubt that ECL was truly elected president is injuring ECL’s legacy as a president. When some foreigners are caught manipulating the sovereign elections you want the nation to sit quite and praise the system. Where is your patriotism? When are you going to grow up sir and understand that running a country is not about serving your selfish interest. When we trusted you with leadership, what did you do? What…
Well said doc. I can foresee pandemonium in case of the courts ruling against Lungu
Ba Kalumba please! What legacy did you live in the Zambian political scene. You sir, are among the disgraced politicians Zambia is not proud of. When we called on you to lead by example you plundered the nation. Do you think decisions for a few is the decisions of the Zambian people. Your call should have only ended at calling for the will of the people to prevail. Your opening statement was great until you spoiled it with explanation of what you intend to gain from rhetoric. Yes, we know Lungu has a soft spot for those who sing praises to him. Look and RB and General Kanene. For you, you may get a banjo and compose a praise hymn for Lungu under the “Christians” for Lungu. Your criminal cases and records might be purged.
UPND are free to take the legal route, there’s nothing unconstitutional for an aggrieved party to seek justice. What is Dr Kalumba scare of?
It is too complicated for you to understand. He says he is scared of judicial activism that is taking over our legal fraternity. This is a dangerous trait. By the way, can you handle Nawakwi’s question as highlighted by Dr. Kalumba here?
@Observer,
Please clarify, How does abandoning the rule of law, as Kalumba is advocating, bring about investor confidence, FDI and job creation for Zambia?
UPND zealots have a heart of a stone and a brain of volcanic lava.
Cactus – Nobody is advocating the abandoning of the rule of law. But at the same time, the rule of law should not be abused. Just because one has the right to petition does not mean that as a matter of routine you have to.
@2.4 Observer,
I have clearly explained in my comment @10.
It is no secret that there was intimidation of other voters in Southern Province by the UPND. But HH should not become a bad loser by disputing elections where he clearly lost. I mean, it was very clear that the UPND was going to lose due to high turnouts in Lusaka (where they nearly did not campaign), Luapula, Eastern and Northern Provinces. Copperbelt also rejected HH regardless the problems faced by the mines.
“To ignore the will of the electoral majority would be a travesty of democracy.”
The will of the majority of Zambians in this election is not reflected in the manipulated results. When we have a true and accurate accounting, yes we can go forward.
Until then we will not agree to this fraud!
These 1mbeciles can’t understand that the country could plunge into turmoil due to selfish motives. HH please spare us. We don’t need to get that far.
Lusakans voted for the PF roads and against hate for the so called Chakolwa and Komboni poor. The poor and Kombonic had to defend their own. Go to Misisi, Chawama, Matero, and ask the poor and chakolwas
Some wise advice there.
@GUNDIXY,
Please clarify, how is abandoning rule of law good advice?
It appears Zambia is the only country where criminals like Kalumba, all they need to do to get acquitted is to sing praises to the people in power! Which majority is he claiming voted for Edgar? NONSENSE!
@4.2
I think this dull chap has very conveniently forgotten that the “substantive will of the people” he is talking about has been subjected to manipulation and distortion by the ECZ.
Chuulu and his chaotic ECZ organization have disenfranchised over 85,000 registered voters in their scheme to rig the election in Lungus favour!
Is that “the will of the people” ????
it seems in this country everyone has been blind folded with selfishness which has resulted to people over looking the poor Zambians, this is the country that has seen massive increase of the cost of living due to the government poor planning towards the development of the nation it is so sad that people are not looking into the future. we appreciate the development pf has brought but we don’t appreciate the poverty. hh means well for this country and it pains him to seen Zambians suffering in the hands of the selfish leaders who have been there since we don’t know liberates our nation please its one Zambia one nation not the same recycled people being in the government.
He lost it when he brought what you are calling recycled people to be running mates – all for political expedience. How do people believe him if the GBMs, Lupando Mwape, Guy scots, Dipak Patels who have been around for a long time become his bedfellows if he wanted to change things? Or is it that he wants to be President which is everyone’s right. And there is nothing wrong with that. In fact there are lots of benefits being a president of a country than being a business person. Does it really pain him to see Zambians suffering? Well I would agree for People like Alipo Dangote – it really pains them to see African suffer.
100% Ba Katele… Ichi chena chine mwasosa. You speak wise words Sir!!! Banakwesu amutelele
I agree.
let the court work in retain of the money they are paid at the end of the month.period
Dr Katele Kalumba the learned one enmeshed into witchcraft. The intellectualy blessed one with a twisted mind. I haven’t forgotten the shock I experienced at Learning that he too can dumb into the occult sciences, that he too can manipulate the ethers and disappear into air at will and escape police manhunt.
Strange that today his logic fails him.
If the police want to search your house because you’re a suspect why would you thwart their effort if your conscience was clear?
If the pf’s conscience is clear let them relax and allow their grieving counterparts satistify themselves in whatever way the law permits.
Zambia is now destroying what KK bbuilt.
Debate the issue not the person or tribe
@8.Wells, You are WRONG, what if you believe some one could be coming to plant evidence on you or just wants to harass and inconvenience you? What came from chasing trucks and planes ferrying election materials? Asking for recount is ok but why not even use polling certificates which were signed by all polling agents in presence of election monitors? There is also what is called PUBLIC INTEREST!- What is the implication of nullifying an election and holding fresh polls under the same “tarnished” ECZ? What will happen to all those regions that largely voted PF and are not rioting when some one tells them that they did not actually win? What if another person as we are hearing challenges the practices in Southern and other UPND strongholds during voting?
@Bwafyaa, Katele is talking about the will of the people. The petition is about establishing what the will of the people is. In the past vote tallying, the will of the people was obscured by a lot of irregularity where 1+ votes of the people was not accounted for or was misplaced. This is what both UPND and Nawakwi are both advocating for. If Nawakwi says the votes in Southern province were manipulated then it makes the UPND resolve to petition the results even stronger. If FDD brings evidence of malpractice in Southern Province, then the current results are really not the will of the people.
Politicians are soulless, conniving, immoral. This sounds like a subliminal job application Mr. Kalumba.
You are spot on. See my comment below.
Dear Dr. K. Kalumba,
If ba LT have correctly published verbatim what you wrote, then then you are contradicting yourself. You say :-
“ … any judicial review of procedural questions of mistakes of a process cannot and must not invalidate the substantive will at stake; the lawful election of Edgar as President until August 2021 ….”
In other words, in plain English you are saying even if the law finds it has not been followed in electing Lungu, the law must not declare the elections unlawful even if there is proof?? Because it will hurt the feeling of the voters? What is this?. Where does it leave the rule of law, and re-engendering investor confidence in our Country?
Where in the world do you get plunderers giving legal advice to a country. Ridiculousness.
we cabn’t trust the jungle doctor..he’s a plunderer
Intelligence,
Please change your name to s.t.u.p.i.d so that it matches with your comments
Very timely and good advice from Katele
Is it good advice to abandon the rule of law?
It the truth look at who protesting it’s from the same region why ain’t people from other provinces protesting. It’s because they voted on different parties. But these fools only voted for one part and they thought that’s zambia
How then Mr. Kalumba do you expect the rule of law to reign in future if the courts today choose to ignore evidence of electoral mapractice. What will prevent such occurences from repeating in future if the law endorses ilegality today?
Either you have aged or you are looking for a job or perhaps affected by concortions of roots and whatever elese.
1) Precedence must be set if we are to be governed by the rule of law
2) Precedence must be set if we are to chant the future of this country where every man and woman can enjoy fair treatment and justice
3) Institutions of governance must function and function for any meaningful development to occur in Zambia.
4) Men and women must all be governed by the law regardless of what position they hold. And impunity must be punished by the…
I can assure you that if we are to do a re-run like now, Edgar would still emerge victorious. The fact remains that HH and GBM lost. They are cry babies. They know that EDGAR has silenced them and now they want to draw attention so that their names are not silenced. Let them go to court if they are hurt. Wwe can do a re-run 20 million times, Edgar would still win the elections
4) Men and women must all be governed by the law regardless of what position they hold. And impunity must be punished by the law
5) What kind of democracy is Mr. Kalumba trying to promote that does not thrive on following laws?
INDEED CRIMINALS MUST NOT BE ALLOWED TO ISSUE LEGAL COUNSEL IN OUR COUNTRY
THIS ADVICE MR/DR KALUMBA IS CRIMINAL
I don’t waste time on criminals like Katele Kalumba…
DONT WORRY YOU CAN ONLY DELAY CHAGWA LUNGU FOR A FEW DAYS TO SIT IN HIS OFFICE. THE CON.COURT WILL TRASH THE APPEAL WITHIN A FEW SECONDS. AND THAT WILL BE S A SECOND DUNUNA.
UPND think that the constitutional Court will rule in their favour and hence always over rating themselves…ECZ will be the same to conduct the elections because that court cannot appoint any one to conduct elections because ECZ is independent…Who will fund that election…Edgar Lungu will still be Outgoing President and hence will still have that mandate to continue ruling until he hands over to the next President Elect..You excited UPND cadres you think to nullify an election is as simple as that…Late President Sata was more intelligent than most educated degree holder danderheads…
There is no need to fear if the elections were free and fair, if evidence is there then that will determine the outcome.By the way the evidence will be submitted to the court and not to Lungu.
Then use your real name and not this fake one as well. You are busy using bemba names but just u Tonga b.ustards. We should all suffer cos of one person called HH, kupusa
Whatever peace attained through injustice is cosmetic and a time bomb. Until there is justice, we may never see peace now or in the future. Let justice prevail through the law. No one should be above the law.
DUNDUMWEZI IS TO 265 AS CHITULIKA IS TO….? SO NAKWAKI’S ANSWER LIES IN THE EXPLANATION OF CHITULIKA VOTING PATTERN
@Lusalu Chitulika is just one example in Northern Province – BUT count how many Dundumwezis were in Southern Province. Stop comparing one unit with several units
WELL SPOKEN SON OF THE LAND: WHO THE HELL PUT UP A CLAUSE TO HALT INAUGURATION UNTIL A DISGRUNTLED LOSER GOT HEARD BY THE CONSTITUTIONAL COURT
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This clause in the constitution should be revisited when Parley gets into session. We Zambians have a serious problem; we talk too much to a point where we entangle ourselves in a mess and lose sight. So much for giving the newly signed constitution some kind of life, yeah. It looks like we have just opened an avenue for every losing candidate to delay inauguration on account of feeling cheated based on shear envy and jealousy. That said, we have got to understand that the southern province manner of voting is so personal and close to their hearts that until they usher into office one of their kind…
Contd..
…rather than making the case for lack of development in the area. This is why it is written that, with this kind of thinking, HH should be denied State House by the majority of electorates owing to the 50% +1.
THE MINGLING COURTS AND POLITICS: ZAMBIANS ARE WE THERE YET?
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In a sense, the justices had no choice in the case the US of A. When the contest between George W. Bush and Al Gore proved too close to call, the contestants resorted to a series of lawsuits in an effort to settle the matter. These suits proceeded simultaneously in the state court system and in federal court. The cases largely concerned the matter and manner of vote counting (and recounting) in the pivotal state of Florida. There were charges of voter intimidation, ballot rigging — all manner of political shenanigans. Something had to be done. So no democratic political scenarios are purely ideal. We just strive to get to the ideal line.
THE MINGLING OF COURTS AND POLITICS: ZAMBIANS ARE WE THERE YET?
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In a sense, the justices had no choice in the case the US of A. When the contest between George W. Bush and Al Gore proved too close to call, the contestants resorted to a series of lawsuits in an effort to settle the matter. These suits proceeded simultaneously in the state court system and in federal court. The cases largely concerned the matter and manner of vote counting (and recounting) in the pivotal state of Florida. There were charges of voter intimidation, ballot rigging — all manner of political shenanigans. Something had to be done. So no democratic political scenarios are purely ideal. We just strive to get to the ideal line.
These Baboons are clearly in it for themselves! And its so sad that zambians can’t see this…,purely blinded by this tribalism nonsense! I say this again..,our children and mostly their children will NEVER know zambia as we knew it when we were young! Saddens me a lot!!!! 🙁
WHY IS IT TOO HARD FOR PEOPLE TO BE TRUTHFUL? I’M NON PARTISAN BUT IF SOMEONE WAS TO BE OBJECTIVE HERE AND SAY, ‘LET THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE PREVAIL” WITHOUT MANIPULATIONS, WHO WOULD BE IN STATE HOUSE NEXT WEEK? BE SINCERE TO YOURSELVES.
Good advice Dr. There is no need of wasting time things will not change to the favour of UPND.
All facts point to the victory of lungu, just give him what belongs to him people have spoken. No amount of delays will change the matter.
We pray to God that Zambia is spared from people sowing the seeds of destruction.
That ECL the chosen Shepard gathers all of us under one wing including the lost ones and protect us from the bond of brotherhood of death and destruction . For how can one forge a bond on top without forging one at the foundation bottom.That purveyors of the instruments of death and destruction do not snare a nation into a path of evil and destruction
MY OTHER WORRY IS ON THE CHARACTER OF SOME OF THESE PEOPLE WHO HAVE JUMPED INTO THE BOAT, IS IT IS GENUINE SUPPORT? E.G. KAVINDELE WANTS RAILWAY LINE PROJECT TO ANGOLA, AUSTAIN CHEWE’S AUPI STORY, GO TO KABWE AND FIND OUT MORE ABOUT THAT, KATELE IS ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT STOLE WHEN THEY WERE IN GOVERNMENT, DORA SILITI COURT CASES, RB COURT CASES, JERABOS, THE LIST IS ENDLESS. WHY DO WE ALLOW OURSELVES TO SINK SO LOW AS ZAMBIANS? DURING CAMPAIGNS, HUGE SUMS OF MONEY WERE GIVEN TO STREET VENDORS WHEN RETIREES WHO HAVE SUFFERED FOR THAT MONEY ARE LANGUISHING. NHA WORKERS HAVE GONE FOR MONTHS WITHOUT PAY. THE MONEY ALL POLITICAL PARTIES USED IN THIS CAMPAIGN WOULD HAVE CHANGED OUR PEOPLE’S LIVES. CAN WE FOR ONCE BEGIN LOOKING AT ISSUES BEYOND MEDIOCRITY, LETS AIM HIGH & DEMAND BETTER…
We are asking JK and Co to immediately go back to studio and do a remix of their song Dununa Reverse but this time include Dundumwezi.
You see the problem we don’t progress in Zambia ,we allow the chiengi Wizards to advise the presidency and expect prosperous Zambia.
Katele my friend you are right. For the sake of mother Zambia, all the wounded should accept the fact that the numbers still favor Edgar, and even if there shortcomings in the electoral process, we can only learn and improve on the shortcomings for future elections.
Let’s allow the Law to prevail and you don’t need a microscope to understand that the elections were rigged,let the aggrieved party petition to satisfy themselves and we should accept the outcome whether in favour of petitioner or ECZ and PF.
This is a laughable but solemn issue here!
Am not a lawyer, but one thing I know for sure is this; if as a country we have courts that can go by Dr. KK, then we would simply encourage the recurrence of such breach on our Constitution and would be culprits in the future would repeat the same act.
So, whatever impact the positive ruling by the Constitution Court towards the Election Petition that is to be filed in tomorrow Friday, the 19th of August, 2016, let it be a DETERRENT in our future Elections.
Zambia’s Democracy is still a ‘Youth’. There is 10 more years before it reaches Adulthood. And what if it is not taken very good care of (following the laid down laws enshrined in Our Constitution), then its Adulthood will be jeopardized. Let no one look at their interests but the…
@Ev. Ernest Chazya Sinyangwe.
Exactly my thoughts. In the unlikely event that ECL loses after the petition, it should be a lesson to politicians that our democracy is for Zambians not politicians who want to manipulate people all the time.
Constitution MUST be forward period
We know that at law you can lose a good case on technicalities. I think what Dr Kalumba is saying is that substance is more important than form, and the substance is that Mr Lungu worn more votes and is duly elected. That should not be negated by procedural breaches, especially since those breaches will have been present on both sides of the political divide. After all we are dealing with politicians!
Blind fellas, the election came out draw. One guy gets 1.8 million votes and the other gets 1.7 million votes and you want to deceive me that some body won. In townships we call it draw – draw. There was no clear winner. Also note that there is nothing Dundumwezi did outside democracy. Don’t demonise them, I am from Eastern and I don’t see anything wrong at all. DEMOCRACY!
@Heliphas
It’s called 50%+1! What this means in the new constitution is that when one attains 50% of the votes cast, he or she just need one vote to be declared a MAJORITY PRESIDENT AND NO ONE SHOULD ATTEMPT TO IGNORE THIS OTHERWISE YOU SHALL SEE THE WRATH OF PEOPLE ON UPND AND THOSE THAT MIGHT DO STUP1D THINGS! COPPERBELT & LUSAKA WILL MATCH TO LUSAKA AND SOUGHT OUT YOU HOPELESS CHAPS IN UPND. ECL WON BY 50%+1 PERIOD AND IT’S NON NEGOTIABLE! …..MASEBO IS FINISHED HAWKER AND SHOULD JUST WAIT TO DIE ALONE.
Ah napapa, kanshi iyi ndoshi ekoyaba ? Ubwanga bwalipesha
Katele Kalumba is a well known Satanist (witch) and records are there for all to see. We Zambians forget easily that’s why Katele Kalumba thinks everyone can now start listening to him. He knows that ECL is not taking the country anywhere but he chooses to support him because he knows they belong together. Why is a witch even talking about the clergy? He knows the clergy in this country are mostly trash (who knows maybe he goes witching at night with them). I refuse to listen to a man who deliberately chose the devil for a master.
Democracy gives room for people to make noise, Elections are done and we look forward to unite and build the country together, A good leader forgives, accepts defeat, humbles himself, if one does not humble himself now, when he gets into power he will never humble himself, therefore he is not fit to rule Zambia. A humble leader unites, to be rich does not automatically make you a good leader, if you are rich start helping the poor Zambians now. U don’t need to be a leader to start helping the poor..
What if he never gets into power?
This is the problem with Zambian/ African politics!
I will not get into debates about who Won, who rigged etc.
However folk like Katele are dishonest speculating leeches, as he’s shouting from the top of the tree to be heard by Chagwa, so Chagwa can throw some crumbs leftover from his table, into Greedy Katele’s wide open hungry mouth, & thus securing a job, feasting on taxpayers cash, whilst offering nothing back!!
IM TIRED OF THIS TYPE OF BELLY POLITICIAN LIKE KATELE, who @ the previous Election, had hinged his dishonest bets on H.H.
At that time Greedy dishonest Katele, told anyone who cared to listen, Lungu was hopeless. How can hopelessness improve in months?? What a quick turnaround!!!
It’s so clear from Mr Kalumba’s writing that he is scared of the case going to court and he is pleading for leniency for Mr Lungu to be accepted. I am not sure if Mr Lungu would be happy wit someone pleading for him like this. It is like Mr Kalumba knows Mr Lungu will fail if the case goes to the courts. Interesting revelation.
HH doesn’t respect anyone more so that he thinks he is the most learned and intelligent baboon in Zambia, it beats me honestly. This man is a danger to Zambia and if not sternly handled, he can bring chaos in our country but let those entrusted with powers to respect the WILL OF THE PEOPLE be bald and tell him that people spoke and spoke in favour of Edgar Chagwa Lungu and the PF.
HH underated ECL too much in these elections and it’s no surprise that he lost. Can he honestly explain why Copperbelt and Lusaka rejected him? He wasn’t sincere and believed his thoughts without getting to the minds of the voter. Here, PF used strategy and well packaged message to the voters something clearly that lacked in UPND. So the constitutional courts should not test the sleeping souls. ECL WON AND…
I conquer with True General that Katele is right. For the sake of mother Zambia, all the wounded should accept the fact that the numbers still favor Edgar international observer PVT, Church mother bodies and JCTR all have confrimed Edgar won. Them they just relying on a simple mistake to turn around evrything in their favour. Imagine, visiolize, think, look at it, this election is awarded to HH and Co. by the so called constitutional court which is just learning things. What would happen. This when the CHAOS wanted by PASTOR NEVERS MUMBA will come.
Dr Katele Kalumba has a lot of stuff in his head which is being being wasted. Why not appoint him D.C for Chiengi so that becomes the headman for this district
Use your native language to express yourself. Your English does not make sense at all.
Zambia is full of spineless people who pull back at the first sign of defeat. This characteristic alone makes us incapable of being a leading nation in anything.
We need this. We need people who can challenge the status quo. We need people who can push the envelope. We need people who are courageous to test the elasticity of the law.
Zambia has always lived on the verge of peace and tribulation. That edge needs to be extended by actions such as this. We need to know who we truly are as a people.
Yamunyokola
WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE MAJORITY WHEN RESULTS WERE TIGHT.WITCHCRAFT PLUS TRIBALSIM MAKES KATELE A DENGEROUS MAN.YOU THINK YOU CAN INTIMIDATE THE COURTS YOU KOLWE.YOU WILL DIE A PAINFULL DEATH.
Katele Kalumba is one of those Politicians Zambians had confidence in until his true character of corruption and witchcraft were exposed. Zambians must ignore Katele Kalumba completely. He is WICKED and actually a serious danger to this country.
Zambia is divided to the core, very true. Remember the insults that have been thrown at the Lozis (over Barotseland issue) the Tongas, not only during the campaigns but even before and the government looked the other way. Those that have insulted were left to do so at will, do you really think people cannot react. These are the results unfortunately, this is a reaction of a group of people who feel insulted. Despite Bo Inonge Wina being VP (Kaingu even reminded them of this), Nalolo rejected PF? What does that mean, can they hate their own, or their own has opted to close her eyes to the injustices to her own people. There is no turning back, despite the reconciliatory tone being used now by those who said and did wrong things. UPND, is no longer a political party, but has become a voice…
through people (from Southern, Western, North Western, etc) have to speak. You call it a tribal party (your opinion), but it is not! Check the statistics if you know what that it is! Watch the space! If the judgment on the petition goes the against PF, of course may be unexpected, it will be a wake up call to all.
WELL SPOKEN DOC.
SUPPOSING THE ELECTION OF OUR PRESIDENT IS ANNULLED BY THE COURTS, WILL LUAPULA, THE EAST NORTHERN, MCHINGA, CB AND LUSAKA SIMPLY FOLD THEIR ARMS AND GO ON A PICNIC? PLEASE DONT PLAY WITH FIRE!
HAS ANYONE IN THE OPPOSITION HEARD ABOUT CHACHACHA. CHACHACHA WAS BORN IN LUAPULA.
Don’t count CB and LSK these two belong to the Lambas,LenJe and solis.Besides not all people who speak Bemba and Nyanja are Bembas and Nyanjas in CB and Lsk.We many Lozis,Kaondes,Lundas,Luvales and Lambas in CB.So they fight mybe 50%:50%.so be carefull what you wish on yourselves.What I know is the Bembas don’t have bushland to retreat to in CB and LSK ,hence the maybe forced to run to North eastern Rhodesia were they come from.
Was there any controversy in Georgia with respect to 2000 USA elections? I do not remember that. I was in the USA and I am still here.
Who won? The candidates with most MPs won and this is consistent with all credible PVTR. The problem with UPND caders is that they are blind followers exercising dogmatic royalty. To them HH (their leader) and Larry Mweetwa (who did their PVT) are infallible. We call it ICHIMPWENA!
The same Dr. Kaluba you are insulting today was your darling when he supported HH in the 2015 by election. He is discussing progressive ideas and you respond through character assisnation. This should be a warning to GBM and Nevers.
All claims by UPND concerning rigging can be summarized in just two words : ‘MA RUBBISH’!
Dear Dr Katele Kalumba, The US election you mention was decided ultimately in the electoral college. The State of Florida (not Georgia) had a razor thin margin – so close that a recount seemed likely. The Florida Supreme Court finally ruled that in the State of Florida ALL the votes will be recounted not just the districts selected by the then outgoing Vice President, Al Gore. Please do your homework. Zambia is in a precarious situation facing it’s version of Watergate. You have boldly proclaimed that “The electoral majority legally voted for Edgar Chagwa Lungu.” but fail to either realize or fail to mention that serious voting improprieties may mean these precious votes were not LEGALLY COUNTED. The credibility of Zambia to the world rests with this court case. God bless Zambia…
Keep your helpless mouth shut old man. This evil you are supporting today because of your poorness will turn against you in the near future your are selfish and all you are saying is just pointing at your selfish pocket. Are you sure if we let this evil go on it will be easy to stay in this country. Think of tomorrow mr.Selfish Old man Sir.
@ Loser. some of you people surprise me, why do we forget so soon about certain events? Just because JK did dununa song, you are all over praising the chap. on which side was JK in 2011 elections? wasn’t he on RB’s side mocking Sata at the time? Lets have morals as a people, JK has no morals, if he did, he would be nowhere near PF just like Dora & RB. These are the same chaps who once prophesied that PF would never rule under Sata. Then today when PF is in power, they are enjoying the fruits of the tree they refused to water
Edgar CHAGWA Lungu, will still win the elections if is to have a re- run with more votes than the previous ones, so you upnd champs and your Hungry Hyena just accept the loose pliz.Edgar is the chosen one to rule this country for the next coming five years.
just separate this country called Zambia.
Dr katele is a mentor to some of us. When he opens his mouth, we remove the plugs from our ears wanting to hear something sensible being said at least for that moment as he is NOT one who yaps unnecessarily. We thank you.
Stealing votes has become normal to some people commenting here. What if it was the other way around? Don’t be selfish.