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HH’s conduct is treasonable, says Mangani

General News HH's conduct is treasonable, says Mangani

HH chats with Bob Sichinga as Dante Saunders listens in
HH chats with Bob Sichinga as Dante Saunders listens in
HAKAINDE Hichilema is trading on the lines of treason, if the police arrest him, he should not complain because he is inviting trouble, former Home Affairs minister Lameck Mangani has said.

And Mr Mangani said whatever UPND former vice-president for politics Dr Canisius Banda advised should not be taken lightly, “let them take his advice seriously on party organisation and mobilisation that was the only way that would save the party from the current crisis.”

In an interview with the Sunday Nation, Mr Mangani said revelations by Dr Canisius Banda stating that the UPND did not win the August 11 elections made very interest reading. Mr Mangani said it was true that the Parallel Voter Tabulations (PVT) done by the UPND had a lot of mistakes.

He said some of the mistakes in the UPND PVT could have been made intentionally to project that possibly the party performed very well.

“But the best advice I would give is that let the UPND leadership possibly not open a Pandora’s Box by continuously talking about the elections. The elections are over, the president was declared by ECZ that he won the elections. “If you start talking about elections, others will also start talking about how the UPND conducted elections in Southern province over the issue of PF polling agents who were chased from the polling stations,” he said.

Mr Mangani wondered what the motive was for the UPND to have chased PF polling agents who were threatened that if they stayed around they would be killed because there were no cameras.

He said the best medicine he could give to the UPND was to stop opening the Pandora’s Box. Mr Mangani said the UPND should go back to the drawing board and start organising itself and aim for 2021.

He said claims by the UPND leadership of saying Edgar Lungu was not President was simply inviting problems because the Constitution was very clear on the matter.

“It means HH is trading on the lines of treason and if the police moves in, it will create a problem and they will think that the Government is being unfair. So at this stage I think the electoral issue should be buried,” Mr Mangani said.

41 COMMENTS

    • Hooo so PF were chased in southern province, then elections were NOT fair. Let’s hear the petition, maybe UPND has that too that PF was disadvantaged. Best is to open that Pandora box Mangani talking about, who has the key?

    • According to the Zambian constitution, Winners of tripartite elections in Zambia are declared and conferred the winning status by the ECZ period. ECZ has all statutory powers to do so. True to their mandate based on aggregated results computed, they declared ECL as the winner of the 2016 elections. The President has since taken his oath of office from the Chief Justice with instruments of power. Unless ECZ has abdicated its electoral mandate to the courts or the constitution has been transposed, Lungu is President of Zambia. Anything else is a dream of pushing extra-constitutionalism whose verdict is in black and white. No doubt, HH, and GBM are overdramatizing themselves in a theater of treason charges. It’s a matter of time.

    • What about not passing power to the speaker when the constitution specified to do so? and allowing minsters to illegally stay in office? Magani should not be encouraging thing that will bring lot of tension. Lungu should have allowed the courts to prove he won? Why did he not allow the petition to be heard? All HH is saying is need to fairly heard and once an impartial judgement is given then he won’t have anything to say. The fact is Lungu’s legitimacy is questionable when you have:
      1. A Ugandan in the ECZ server room tempering with results
      2. The rush inauguration even the Chief Justice and her deputy refused until the petition was heard
      3. Why did Lungu have more votes than registered voters in a lot of constituencies?
      Out of all the Levy’s cabinet only Magani is the…

    • This dog says the elections in southern province were conducted by UPND where was ECZ,
      Mangani your time to eat is gone,just find something else to do.

  1. Kikiki is cannisius bumda the court? Why does bumda only issue such statement after been suspended from upnd? How can he be taken seriously when he talking from chikonko Kikiki please pf help that silly pilgrim pay his rent. He is after a job and us feeling the economic downturn under pf just like we all are. The only difference is that we have integrity to stick with what we believe us right. Mangani is just a used toilet paper.

    • That’s a good name, Keep it. I used it 10 years ago. Then people started making it short “Mayo”, so for that reason I kept my baptism name.

  2. IT IS PF WHO SEES THE DISORGANISATION OF UPND AND THE REST OF ALL ZAMBIANS SEES THAT PF STOLE WHAT BELONGS TO PF. EVEN PF MUST NOT FOLLOW UPND ON EVERY LINE BUT PROVE TO THE ZAMBIANS THAT YOU CAN PERFORM OTHER THAN FOLLOWING THEM IN EVEN WHEN HH AND GBM ENTERS TOILETS.
    ARREST HH AND YOU WILL CONVULSE AND INVOKE THE SLEEPING SPIRITS OF THE ZAMBIANS ESPECIALLY THE SIX PROVINCES WHERE PF PRESIDENT IS NOT RECOGNIZED. NUNUNU NGA MWALIZEMBULULWA GO AHEAD.

  3. Comment:Mr Mangani, keep your wrong advice. Hichilema has got vast experience at losing elections, he’s now preparing for another loss in 2021. How can you, who has lost once advise somebody who has done it 5 times? Don’t cause him to win when he’s started preparations for a record sixth loss. Leave him alone!

  4. From the wrath of UPND members and their leader in Southern Province, you can imagine how the few PF polling agents were treated in UPND strongholds like Namwala and Dundumwezi? I feel pity for the few PF polling agents whose lives were really endangered and it’s very possible they were chased away together with International observers and ZNBC thereby leaving only UPND to manipulate the results at will and imagine no cameras to cover the events there. If any party should complain about rigging, it must be PF in Namwala, Dundumwezi and other parts of Southern Province. In all fairness, UPND’s 33000 against PF’s 252 votes in Dundumwezi MUST be verified. UPND rigged badly.

  5. The negative preoccupation with HH and UPND by almost every “Umodzi kumawa ” now “Wako ni wako” politician is just further dividing the country. The 2016 elections outcome was created by Sata in his regionally dominated and selective appointments (MHRP) made worse after his death by the likes of Chama, Mumbi, Kambwili and others especially RB and Dora Siliya through their hate speeches. Richard Sakala and the state media needs to tone down with their anti HH/UPND coverage. It is not helping to heal the country. The inclusive Concourt not to hear the petitioners remains unjustice to both the petitioners and the respondents. The fraudulent incompetence of the electoral commission in 2016 was historic and a subject for electoral research

  6. Mangani, you a a disgrace to us upcoming youths. You have jumped from MMD to UPND, and now PF. Iwe cinkote conse ulibe nansoni. Njala ya kunyokola and you simply follow parties in power. When are old people start disappearing so that us young ones can bring sanity to politics. Twanaka nenu mwe.

  7. Zambians come on let’s get back to work,busy talking without directions look out the Chinese are making money and all we do is talk talk with no solutions. Next they will be gone with our money. Let HH fight for himself he won’t remember you. Good example is Banda whom he wouldn’t help with rentals how about you who he had never sat or shared table with.

  8. I feel sorry for the few PF polling agents whose lives were really endangered in Namwala and Dundumwezi during the elections. It’s very possible they were chased away together with International observers and ZNBC thereby leaving only UPND to manipulate the results at will and imagine no cameras to cover the events were there. That’s why HH suspects that PF did the same in Lusaka. A witch always believes that everyone is a witch.

  9. Hakainde Hichilema and Geoffrey Habwalya Hamwamba must attend National Prayers on Tuesday perhaps they might find favour in the eyes of God and the people of Zambia. Otherwise they must not blame Zambians for losing elections again in 2021. Personally I cannot vote for a person who refuses to worship God. Why refuse to pray? I am suspicious about such people and I think most Zambians think the same way.

    • Mwilu; what are you talking about prayer? who says HH doesq not pray? He belongs to the seventh day adventist church; can you tell us the denomination of the president? you bunch of hypocrites that call for prayers and then next day you are blogging out your tribal hate and arresting innocent people because they belong to opposition; practice what you preach and you have no right to criticise others; it is written in the bible; not all who come and say father father that will be saved; i have met people in life who do not go to church and do not believe in God but their actions to their fellow human beings is better than most of us so called christians; your hearts are filled with bile and it is better you repent before you go and kneel to mock God for the sake of power;

  10. Job seeking by wako ni wako from wako no wako with wako ni wako by wako ni wako at its very best wako ni wako

  11. No… Sata was pro poor& he Neva tolerated people like the X priest who ar misplaced. Lungu is OK&he will even be better if he could have his own voice, get rid of X priest so he can go back to church. X priest is a lost person. May som 1 show himthe direction of Rome so he can go have time of prayer&reformation!

  12. Finished and tribal Mangani seeking for a job Ku mwaiche Lungu. When are the young ones going to work much Zambia ..? Canicious Banda has never been a politician but a mere job seeker. Now he wants a job from lungu on WAKO NI WAKO BASIS. Foolish.. what about me who campaigned heavily for lungu???

  13. What kind of democracy can HH fight for for the people of Zambia and which people of Zambia does he refer to? When did HH himself become a democrat since he took over from Mazoka in 2006 if he cannot allow UPND to hold a convention for 10 years to elect new leaders? Leaders of UPND are simply handpicked and fired by HH. Those who mention a convention are viewed as enemies. A clear example is Canisius Banda who HH suspended for calling for a convention? Let’s see what happens if GBM calls for a convention if he will not be thrown out like a bag of rubbish. HH runs UPND like his personal company and it’s quite evident the guy can actually become a dictator if given a chance to rule Zambia but God forbid. We as Zambians say NO! to HH and we ‘ll defeat him again come 2016.

    • He is fighting for the over 1.7million voters who gave him their vote inspite of him being denied compaign time and violence visited on his followers.

  14. Dear Kubweka, One Party State is no longer possible in Zambia. You think like that coz you were so obsessed with the idea of seeing HH as president of Zambia and no one else. To you it’s democracy only if HH is president of Zambia. Let’s not think like dat my brother. In democracy there is always a winner and a loser.

  15. What about not passing power to the speaker when the constitution specified to do so? and allowing minsters to illegally stay in office? Magani should not be encouraging thing that will bring lot of tension. Lungu should have allowed the courts to prove he won? Why did he not allow the petition to be heard? All HH is saying is need to fairly heard and once an impartial judgement is given then he won’t have anything to say. The fact is Lungu’s legitimacy is questionable when you have:
    1. A Ugandan in the ECZ server room tempering with results
    2. The rush inauguration even the Chief Justice and her deputy refused until the petition was heard
    3. Why did Lungu have more votes than registered voters in a lot of constituencies?
    Out of all the Levy’s cabinet only Magani is the…

  16. Lungu is under heavy pressure from the Tonga Bull. 48 hours to vacate State Hse, 48 hours to reopen the Post premises, 48 hours to release me together with others appearing in court for various chargés,48 hours to appoint
    , Mwaanga and Chepenzi including Munkobwe as Constitutional Court Judges. My foot!

  17. Come 2021 there will come a new political party which will win the election and poor HH will perform his favorite tune “I won, but they stole my votes “

    • You started by saying HH will always be distant third now you have to steal votes to beat him,After barrowing 10billion dollars and stealing the money thru road contracts we shall see how you will rig election next time the pressure is on you not HH.

  18. now you see why Zambia is in such a mess having people like Magani. this is a person who was once a home affairs minister entertaining fo0lish treason talk in this day and age.and these are people whom Lungu is listening to. tomorrow they’ll say they’re Christians. Shame on them. Ask KK. where is he now? he is no longer wamuyaya. Canicius is a lost chap. This Magani is mad.

  19. Wako ni wako just give Dr. Banda a job that’s what he is seeking for. PF thugs and the worst tribalists. Why are you always talking about HH. It’s now becoming sickening. Every article points to HH. What’s your problem. Your ECL is an imposter president and that tag with stick on him forever. Just concentrate on rooting government resources an aspect you are known for until Zambia becomes like one of the neighbouring countries. By the way zambia is in reverse. Hope you are still dancing your Duna reverse. ??

  20. UPND should sober up and accept that 2016 elections are gone and start preparing for another bad performance in 2021. To continually claim theft of votes without proof is very s.tupid and childish. The hyena claims to have been to university and his head should function better than GBM who has forged qualifications. If he continues with the kaponya approach, he will be sorry soon. Those f00ls talking of hearing the petition should explain why hh failed to present evidence in 14 days allocated by the constitution and which constitutional provision will allow another hearing. Otherwise its very f00lish to continue to hear nonsense. SO UPND JUST SHUT UP AND ACCEPT YOU ARE NOT YET POPULAR.

  21. Mangani you are just a dull back yard Mechanic who knows nothing about the law. Are you Zambians not ashamed that South Africa a new democracy is practicing the kind of democracy that has become the envy of the entire world? Julius Malema told off President Zuma right in front of parliament face to face that he was an illegitimate President and yet Zuma by all standard was legitimately elected unlike your own here. Has Malema been arrested or charged with any offence for expressing his opinion?

    We should be ashamed as a country for harassing citizens with dissenting views and trump up fake charges. If you Mangani are not a shameless job seeker after njala yakunyokola, tell us in what capacity you are barking.

  22. THIS GUY COMMENTING ON HH IS LAMECK MANGANI. ANOTHER WAKO-NIWAKO. HH’S ACTIONS CAN ONLY BE TREASONABLE IN A DICTATORSHIP GOVERNMENT BACKED BY THE CONSTITUTION. ZAMBIA IS NOT A DICTATORSHIP GOVERNMENT, IT IS A DEMOCRACY AND HH IS PLAYING THE GAME OF DEMOCRACY RIGHT. WE ALL THAT LUNGU’S GOVERNMENT IS FULL OF INTIMIDATION AGAINST WHAT IS ENSHRINED IN OUR DEMOCRATIC CONSTITUTION. LUNGU STOLE POWER FROM HH, HOW THEN DO YOU EXPECT HH TO RECOGNIZE LUNGU AS A BONAFIDE HEAD OF STATE? COME ON GUYS, YOU ARE COMMUNICATING TO INTELLECTUALS HERE.

  23. mangani is seeking job.He needs to go to school to learn core values and principles of democracy to understand governance.A bambo are yu looking for a job?We can offer you as a political advisor to president Muliokela.

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