The Law Association of Zambia (LAZ) says it is available for consultations on whether or not Zambia must pull out from the (ICC). LAZ president Linda Kasonde also said that her association is willing to offer it’s considered view over the matter. Ms Kasonde said this in a statement made available to ZNBC News in Lusaka.
Meanwhile Ms Kasonde says LAZ welcomes President Lungu’s stance to consult with Zambians on whether or not the country must pull out of the ICC. Recently President Edgar Lungu said his government will consult with Zambians on whether or not to pull out of the ICC. A number of African countries have in recent years threatened to pull out of the ICC
Just tell us your view Linda. Why wait to be consulted?
What a change now laz says they can advise?
Just say it don’t leave we need to find out who ordered the pangas!
And who sent the cadres to beat and kill innocent civilians!
A British trained lawyer will have only one thing to say- aunt Tomah.
Ba Linda Tell us so that we know if you have started reasoning well!!
I think Linda is a natural beauty. She has not added me on linkedin, I wonder why. That hurts my feeling Linda. Anyways keep working hard according to the law of the land.
Lets hope this UPND cadre will be objective this time. She has turned LAZ into a mouth piece of UPND instead of offering the nation legal advise or guidance.
I THINK ZAMBIA HAS NOT GENERATED ENOUGH REASONS TO BELONG TO ICC OR TO LEAVE IT EITHER. SO THE DEBATE IS IMMATERIAL FOR NOW. IT IS LIKELY TO BE CONFUSED WITH POLITICS. SOME LOSING CANDIDATE IN LAST YEAR’S ELECTIONS HAS LIED TO HIS SUPPORTERS THAT HE WILL TAKE THE CASE TO ICC. SO IF ZAMBIA LEAVES ICC, THE SAID LOSER WILL GO AROUND CLAIMING THAT ECL HAS “CHICKENED” OUT OF ICC BECAUSE HE FEARS TO BE PROSECUTED. FOR THAT REASON, I SUGGEST THAT PULLING OUT OF ICC NOW WILL BE ILL-PERCEIVED AND MISUNDERSTOOD. IT WILL BE ILL-TIMED TO PULL OUT OF ICC FOR NOW. LET IT BE DONE AFTER ECL HAS SERVED HIS LAST TERM, WHENEVER THAT WILL BE. SO THAT LAST YEAR’S LOSER DOES NOT GO AROUND MISINFORMING HIS FOLLOWERS.
Nice one Hahahaha
Who cares about the ICC? What is of concern to Zambians is whether Lungu is legible to stand in the coming election, this is what the Zambian public wanted LAZ to comment on. I realise they cannot comment now because the case is in court. But before the case was in court, LAZ could have helped to put this thing to sleep had they commented on it. Why comment on the ICC now, is it because UPND has been talking about it? Zambia acceded to the ICC voluntarily, it can withdraw at any time. Zambia can even with draw from the Africa Union (AU). It is not mandatory that Zambia shold belong to ICC or AU. It is good for governance but not a requirement. So Ms. Linda what do you want to tell us? Can someone kick this girl out of her presidency of LAZ the next time?
she will not be re-elected she has fulfilled a life time ambition to be LAZ first female president but whereas we expected soooo much from her? She has sided with her political partisan beliefs
At the 28th AU Summit, illegitimate President Lungu voted for Zambia to leave the ICC. Lungu voted for ICC Exit without consulting the Zambians. Most Right thinking Zambian will refuse to ratify Lungu’s unilateral vote. Lungu feels that it will be in his interest to if Zambia left ICC becoz he has committed so many crimes against UPND supporters. To there are more than 3000 UPND who are being held on trumped charges. Lungu must be stopped from hijacking Zambia out of ICC.The Petition shall be heard whether he likes it or not.
Noonde, UPND lost the elections, period. It is time to move on. Burying your head in the sand will not help you. Instead of being depressed, begin to live again. Life is about winning or losing, all you need is to accept and move on. For how long are you going to mourn over something you will never win. The law will prove those 300 cadres of yours innocent or guilty, leave that to the courts to deal with. Anyway, those cadres asked for what they are going through by blindly “dying” for their rich leaders who are enjoying life, and I can tell you, they have no sleepless nights over those 300 cadres. So why waste your time and tears Noonde.
Actually Nonde is HH himself. He is so disillusioned that he will soon die.
Just tell them not to pull out. You are a smart girl and don’t follow the views of the corrupt
Comment:we don’t need an advise from laz. Its a failed entity under the leadership of Linda kasonde. She has on many occasions failed to guide the nation of very important legal matters. I m not demeaning women but from creation a woman has to consult a man before making an important decision. Laz is in problems. no
Politics is a game of numbers. When AU is saying one thing, then it is unwise for SADC to say another thing. Policies need to reflect dominant cultural, social and economic interests of the time. To the extent that African states, including South Africa are expressing strong reservations about ICC, then friendly countries like Zambia must first team up. The shortcomings of the existing world order are there for everyone to see. This is a golden opportunity to assert the dignity of the African personality. For now, the best that ICC can do is to assist in building national and regional capacities in fighting crimes against humanity in Africa.
LAZ is just studying on which side EL is. Once Edgar Lungu states his stance on the ICC, then they will give their position in opposition that is all they are waiting for. So is HH and most of these good for nothing NGOs. Now ECL has read the mood very well and has left all of them damn founded.
ICC was not set up for presidents only but anyone committing human rights violations…..its not necessary to even debate the motion….it has become fashionable in africa for presidents to say they want to leave ICC…
no pulling out. Its nt E lungu who joined the icc. Why is he worried. Just to be fair. Is E d L gvt doing the light thing against human rights? Eg grabbing bus stations by Pf carders . Only upnd carders where jailed during the period of Election.
You see! that is exactly what I said above. At the AU sammit most Countries through their Presidents suppoted the motion for pulling out but ECL maintained that he could not decide but consult with the Zambians. Now this guy here is already acusing EL. What type of people are these cattle?
Africa doesn’t need to be ruled by foreigners again.
Our fathers fought for freedom which you are selling away.
Africa can create their own criminal court,to deal with their own people who are going against the law.
Trump said that Africa needs to be colonised again it is because of you dull morons.
Taking into account the dark professional cloud hanging over LAZ, no fair legal opinion relating to the international politics thriving on ICC concepts can ever crystallize from this biased legal institution that has been labelled as a UPND political vehicle. Zambia badly needs selfless Lawyers who have the heart for the poor and their inherent human rights – rather than those (Lawyers) who have sprang up like “armyworms” to fatten their bank accounts.
Lungu supported the motion for AU Member States to leave the ICC en masse. Lungu made the decision to pull Zambia out of ICC and what remains is the mechanics and timing of the official Exit. Lungu fears the fate of Lorrent Gbagbo of Ivory Coast. Lungu has done to Zambia what Lorrent Gbagbo did to Ivory Coast. Laz can advise on how best and the timing to Exit ICC officially. The decision for Zambia to leave ICC has already been made by illegitimate President Lungu.
What consultation naimwe? How can he consult all of us? It is impossible. He is just procrastinating to see how his counterparts in other countries decide then he will go with the wind. He can only consult LAZ as a professional body. He should have left it to parliament to direct him