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NUMSA responds to the Zambian High Commissioner to South Africa Emmanuel Mwamba

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NUMSA’s response to the Zambian High Commissioner to South Africa Emmanuel Mwamba

13 March, 2017

‘We condemn the decline into Tyranny”

and we condemn the rapid decline into tyranny in Zambia..

We are also very familiar with the political situation in Zambia, especially just before, during and after the last national elections, in 2016.

We feel and suffer terribly, the pain of poverty, unemplyment and extreme inequalities affecting the majority of the people of Zambia. Therefore, in South Africa

To the High Commissioner, Mr. Emmanuel Mwamba, we note his request for a meeting with us. As NUMSA we cannot refuse an offer to engage, however, in his widely published letter to us he casts negative aspersions over the authenticity of our statements and doubts whether the views expressed in the statements are indeed those of NUMSA. By doing so he has exceeded his diplomatic and ambassodorial duties and strayed into the political arena to defend his political and paymaster, Mr. Lungu. We therefore see no value in meeting with him, as he would simply exploit our meeting with him for his own political purposes.

Let us first set the record straight for the Zambian High Commissioner in South Africa, Mr. Mwamba: all the statements and articles we have published are indeed the views of NUMSA. They correctly reflect the views of the union on the fast deteriorating media and other freedoms in Zambia, and indeed our views of Mr. Lungu’s government.

Further, we will implement our programme to encourage boycotts against trade with Zambia and we will galvanise international working class solidarity for the Zambian people. We will stage pickets at the embassy in South Africa, and we will encourage our partners elsewhere on the continent and overseas to do the same. And if necessary we will encourage the South African government other nations to impose sanctions on Zambia because of the subversion of democratic culture and the rise of tyranny

In our global struggles for justice, we remain always mindful of what Martin Niemöller, an outspoken priest said about Adolf Hitler and the Nazi regime during the Second World War. Niemöller perfectly explains why it is our revolutionary duty to defend democracy with all our might everywhere where it is threatened:

“First they came for the Communists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.”

It is worrying for us as NUMSA when a head of state can confidently and publicly issue death threats against one of its own citizens, as Lungu did in September 2015, in Solwezi in Zambia, against Dr Fred M’membe. M’membe is a man of integrity and his personal reputation as a journalist and champion of media freedom and workers’ rights are well documented, not only in Zambia, but around the globe.

Anywhere in the world businesses often have issues with tax. These issues can take many years to resolve. We are confident that millions of Zambians have not been fooled into beliveing that The Post Newspaper is under provisional liquidation because of tax challenges. Zambians know that The Post Newspaper is supposed to be up and running, following the decision from the Zambian Tax Tribunal, which ordered the Zambia revenue authorities to hand over all impounded assets of The Post, and return it back to the paper. This order has been contemptuously ignored by the government of Mr. Lungu.

We also know that in order to prevent The Post Newspaper from challenging and preventing its liquidation, the government has been working very hard behind the scenes to obtain ex parte court orders to destroy The Post . As we speak, another arrest warrant has been issued for Dr M’membe and his attorney!

NUMSA will not stand silent in the face of injustice, anywhere in the world. And we owe no one the duty to ask for permission to fight for human rights and dignity. We are a socialist inspired trade union and we believe in the global struggle for justice and equality.

We are well aware of Zambia’s role in the liberation of our people. We know that were it not for the solidarity shown to us as South Africans in our time of need, we would never have defeated the scourge of Apartheid. We will forever be in the debt of the Zambian people for their sacrifice on our behalf. And it is precisely that same principle which prevents us from keeping quiet in the face of unspeakable repression and gross abuse of state power by Mr. Lungu and his party, the Patriotic Front.

The bedrock of every democracy are freedoms of thought, speech and the press. Journalists and media workers should be able to operate in an environment which is free from tyranny and repression. Journalists are not praise singers. Their role is to remain independent and to highlight the suffering of the most vulnerable members of society. As NUMSA we know that self-criticism is the bedrock of Socialism. We have been critiqued by the press and sometimes it can be unpleasant. But we recognise it as an opportunity for self-reflection and analysis. As NUMSA we will never endorse or support a government which suppresses press freedom.

What we want to know as NUMSA is where are the leaders of the Zambian Congress of Trade Unions to feel the pain and heed the call of workers in Zambia? Over 2000 workers from The Post Newspaper lost their jobs last year and yet the ZCTU says nothing. President Lungu is allowed to act with impunity and abuse state resources and you are silent. Where is your revolutionary conscience comrades?

During Apartheid independent journalists lived in fear of the regime. Many were harassed, others were tortured and killed. Media workers and journalists in South Africa took on the hateful regime through their writing. Their photographs and videos told the story of the brutality of the repressive regime. They ensured that the voices of our people were heard across the continent, and carried across the Atlantic Ocean all the way to Europe and eventually the America’s. If it were it not for the work of media workers and journalists in this country, the South African struggle against apartheid brutalities would have continued.

Issued by Karl Cloete
NUMSA Deputy General Secretary

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108 COMMENTS

    • NUMSA is itself a political party and are now pretending to avoid meeting Mwamba because he will ” simply exploit our meeting with him for his own political purposes”, what hypocrisy! you’re an opposition party to the ANC ruling in South Africa so how will you influence the SA government to stop trading with Zambia when SA has so much to benefit from trading with us? I personally support media freedom, but cannot put up with NUMSA capitalising on the Post Vs GRZ matter to seek international recognition. In every country, there be one or two media houses that may overstep the mark, in which case the law must take its course. Right in SA they are hugely threatened with a shrinking membership when Eskom closes 4 coal mines in Mpumalanga, which I think is a bigger fish for them to fry.

    • When Mugabe was slowly showing his dictatorial tendencies, to many Zimbabweans it was normal until sh*t caught up with them. You may hate Mmembe but the rule of law must be respected. They’re better ways to sort enemies than trying to abuse and break the law.

    • Whereas NUMSA may have a good argument, they are currently morally compromised because of the Xenophobia going on in their own country. Let them first put their house in order. For now they are being hypocritical.

    • Let’s forgive our South African brothers. Those who’ve dealt with them can agree with me that they are naturally dull to comprehend slightly complicated issues. My advise to NUMSA is this, deal with the Guptagate and Nkandla before you offer solidarity to thieves here in Zambia.@

    • First they came for Guy Scott, and I did not speak out—
      Because I was not Guy Scott.
      Then they came for HH, and I did not speak out—
      Because I was not HH.
      Then they came for Linda Kasonde, and I did not speak out—
      Because I was Linda Kasonde.
      Now I’ve to react before they come for me.

    • THESE GUYS HAVE MILLIONS OF PROBLEMS WHICH THEY HAVE FAILED TO DEAL WITH Xenophobia BEING ONE AND THE MOST SERIOUS PROBLEM THAT DOG THEM, LAND DISTRIBUTION ISSUES, EQUAL OPPORTUNITY TO EDUCATION WHICH FEW CAN AFFORD, TRIBALISM AND MANY MORE. BEFORE WASTING THEIR ENERGY ON ZAMBIA, THEY SHOULD TRY TO ADDRESS SOME OF THESE ISSUES. WHERE IN THEIR LAND CAN THEIR SAFRICAN GOVT CAN ALLOW A BUSINESS NOT PAYING TAX FOR YEARS? IS THIS ISSUE TOO COMPLICATED FOR YOU NUMSA LEADERS TO COMPREHEND? TOO SHALLOW THINKING.

    • correction:

      ‘WHERE IN THEIR LAND CAN THEIR SAFRICAN GOVT ALLOW A BUSINESS NOT PAYING TAX FOR YEARS?’
      AND NOT:
      “WHERE IN THEIR LAND CAN THEIR SAFRICAN GOVT CAN ALLOW A BUSINESS NOT PAYING TAX FOR YEARS?”

  2. Who the eff is this I D I O T speaking to a representative of the mighty Zambia like that?

    The fact that he calls criminal Mmembe DR Membe shows you how shallow the chap is and how he has been bought. Zambians don’t even know that crook Mmembe is a fake DR. Va bo oka vima DR titles mwe. You don’t pay taxes ati injustice , try that with your revenue authority and lets see how far your NUMSA nonsense will go

    • He is deputy Secretary of a trade union in a country that has seen record number of zambians claiming asylum running away from your mighty zambia.

    • The fact that you don’t know Fred Mmembe is now a Dr says a l about you. You otrae upset because NUMSA has stated facts which you find painful to hear. The Post issue was not properly handled and now the world is waking up to the fact the PF is abusing power.

    • Guys let’s be civil for a bit. Insults just put people in danger. It will be chaotic if South Africans took to streets to protest against your PF cadre. I am already scarred!!!

    • @ PF cadre

      “Mighty Zambia”???
      Where that “might” come from?
      Come down to Earth and stark reality of poverty, malnutrition, lawlessness, thuggery, corruption, embezzlement…………………..
      By the way, are you cleaning red carpet properly for the visit of “Mighty IMF”?

    • IT SEEMS NUMSA IS A SHAREHOLDER OF POST AND MAST NEWS PAPER, I GUESS THIS IS THEIR MAIN REASON FOR THE FRUSTRATIONS. THEY ARE PART OF OUR TAX THIEVES, ARREST THEM ALL!

  3. ZCTU IS NOT A CONGRESS OF TRADE UNIONS. THEY ARE JUST A COLLECTION OF COMPROMISED AND CORRUPT COWARDS. THEY ON LONGER REPRESENT THE PEOPLE. THANK YOU NUMSA.

  5. South Africa, the name rings a bell, oh wait, is that country where the president upgraded his personal home on the backs of the taxpayers? And that ka ma show in parliament?

  6. PF cadre -your ignorance of Dr Mmembe’s doctorate is regrettable. NUMSA is not responsible for your ignorance

  7. “First they came for the Communists, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Communist.
    Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Jew.
    Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.”

  9. Zambians until its us being harassed that’s when we realize the magnitude of the problem. The PF have taken their populist stance as a way to harrass their opponents. I don’t mmembe but he hasn’t been treated fairly ny government that is true.

    • Iwe bukala bobe that full Fred took himself to court in order to get away with paying tax and court ruled against him. He refused to go by the repayment plan he was given because he thought he was bigger than zambians including you full. Some people here have no brains for sure. Just supporting simply because he insults your rival. Its not Ecl who has been preventing OVAL HEAD from becoming president Since 2006 but us zambians.

    • @ #9.1

      Constitutional Court has Ruled against past and present Ministers and demanded return of plundered money. How many of them have been taken to task? Has any money be recovered to date?
      Are out there two different Laws?

  10. Reading between lines any person even with a brain of a child can tell that this 1diot of numsa is delusioned and speaking from with an uninformed mind. Just meet mwamba and learn something. These 1diots were busy killing there own people with impunity and they thought they were doing the right thing. We will know who is paying this zealot soon.

    • “…any person even with a brain of a child can tell that this 1diot of numsa is delusioned and speaking from with an uninformed mind…”

      It is most unfortunate that your brain has failed to reach development level of a child. Case of genetically transmitted 1mbecility?

  11. Well said from the trade unions of SA

    Indeed democracy in zambia is under sidge from the PF theives who bribe everyone they can to silence and keep the masses ignorant about their stealing.

    We have PF leaders openly calling for Thier thugs to take over public places and steal council plots. Just the other day we had 2 PF MPs threatening each other and calling each other theives while their vile kaponya suppoters try to deflect our attention by naming the oposistion.
    Thank you SA. If you do not condem lungu now you will have a Zimbabwe situation on your hands.

  13. Very usual that in Zambia,people just talk about the dictator once he leaves power. Once he is in power, it is blind loyalty and docility. Zambians are very alive to the fact that Post issues have nothing to do with tax, unless you are completely mad and even without certification from a physichatrist would one believe CRAP about tax. Thanks Numsa

    • Iwe spaka lilo whatever you call yourself ! There ain’t a lot of Zambians here in south Africa like you are exaggerating but a lot of Zimbabweans, Malawians etc. South Africa cannot tell us how to rule our country when they have a lot of chaos going on in their country. Are they our colonial masters now that they should tell us what to do? As Zambians we will never tolerate such nonsense let them protest or cut trade with us we don’t care. Its South Africa that has a lot to lose than Zambia my friend. Their Chain of stores mushrooming in Zambia will close down and they will have nothing to gain but lose out.

  16. Gone are the days of the all powerful ZCTU. This country is in serious trouble. Surely, a foreign union must remind you to complain about the 2000 jobs lost at the Post. If its all about tax, can the government show how many companies have been closed because of overdue tax? How much does Daily nation owe?

  17. This NUMSA guy is full of himself. He has failed to deal with issues such as social securities , Zuma nkandla , xenophobia etc . Just as well we have banned importing vegetables from south africa

  19. What is Your Interest!
    ———————————
    Is Mmembe your PayMaster too?
    ….NUMSA! You sound like a noise maker immigrant…!!!…If so much aggrieved, speak to Zuma to speak to Lungu because Edgar will never listen to you.

    AmaLevels!…!

    A_I2021

  20. Information surfacing about this 1diot from namusa are that he was Fred’s business partner. He is the guy who was behind post courier services and those trucks which were impounded in S.A. were donated to the post by him. Therefore this full is has an interest in the defunct post. That’s why he is crying the loudest. These are the cretins whom OVAL HEAD and gbm wanted to use to help with election rigging. More data still coming

  24. Mr. NUMSA don’t expose your ignorance to the international community, the consequences of tax evasion will follow anyone whether a media house, mining company or private person. Advise you friend Mr Mmembe to settle his tax liabilities and see if the’ll remain closed. For your own information the Post had a settlement plan which they themselves did not respect and opted to abuse the court process while at the same utilized their media platform to push smear campaigns. They forgot one TRUTH, there’s time for everything under the sun; and the Post is not an exception … neither are you mr NUMSA!

  25. The stupidity of NUMSA zoona, why commenting on matters that border on a sovereign state like Zambia. Mmembe is a pure thief who was hiding in editorial, and now he is using outside organisations like NUMSA to speak for him. NUMSA should concentrate on ANC and the corruption happening in SA, unlike Zambia where they’ve no influence at all. NUMSA is shooting in air as this will not go anywhere. Mmembe should own up and pay the taxes. He was too pride such that he thought no one can’t come to his yard and demand for what belongs to a taxman. I don’t feel pity for Mmembe, he made a lot of enemies using his paper.

  26. We can place comments chastising NUMSA well and good! However lets reflect on strengths of South African governance institutions compared to those of Zambia. Zuma has been dragged to respond to the governing laws after unearthing of misapplication of the peoples’ funds nothing of the sort can happen in Zambia! Brothers stand in support of each other and as NUMSA acknowledges Zambia’s role in the march against apartheid that era is gone but has not killed the relationship! Zambians can not continue insulting South Africans who have clout to counter Zambia mediocre development agenda and economic malaise! Trade Unionism development in RSA learnt from the once vibrant ZCTU and NUMSA is spot on criticizing now impotent ZCTU! Asylum aside our leaders are still trekking to RSA for better…

  27. contd… medical attention let alone many small scale businesses and cross border traders rushing to RSA. Zambians especially abashenda be economic on how you criticize your RSA brethren when they in a way want to share their experiences since their economic environment is faring much better!

    • South Africa has two sides. White and black. Your fellow blacks cannot afford the hospitals Zambians run to. Your fellow blacks in some informal settlements still shut in buckets. They sleep tinned houses over 25 million leave in abject poverty. Unemployment is rife hence Xenophobia. Smith left a good Zimbabwe but where are they. Your South Africa might get there one day.

    • @ Amagenge are blacks in Zambia any better after 50 years under black Zambian leadership? Liken South African ‘informal settlements’ to your commonly named “Zambia compounds” or shanty townships around the country, an example I am familiar with Wusakile in Kitwe sets of homes still share one toilet! Right now people are crying for DMMU intervention as structures called homes are collapsing! Why in the first place should Zambians be running away from hospitals which are classified best in the country to RSA hospitals? It may not be far fetched that your best Zambian hospitals could be no better than what is afforded the South African blacks. Unemployment is equally a challenge in Zambia. Xenophobia also arises when government policies disregard plight of its nationals. On Zimbabwe…

  28. This is what you call bargaining power. When i told the PF tins here to be careful with international pressure they thought they were some gods. please be aware that unions in south africa are very powerful and not influenced by politicians like here in zambia. Watch these guys successfully bargain for the ban on trade on certain commodities and then when you feel the pinch is when you will realise that things are bad in zambia. you are under a dictatorship but you seem t be in denial . wake up before its too late you dullards

  29. this is really great numsa our zctu are compromised otherwise why have they failled to speak for the post workers. in one of our languages we say lelo chapita mailo chilipaiwe. you are very much welcome just like zambian government was in speaking for south africans during the time of the boers.

  31. NUMSA can do Zambia a big favour, not by boycotting Zambia’s trade for that will hurt majority poor Zambians to death. NUMSA should urge South African government to deport Mwamba to Zambia. Mwamba is a well known crook to the South African authorities. Mwamba’s ambassadorship was rejected by RSA for know criminal activities in the past. Thanks to disgraced Lungu who pleaded with president Zuma for reprieve.
    Lungu’s regime has short term to go as the entire world now knows elections results were stolen from HH the undeclared winner and president of the whole Zambia.

    • @31 ARE YOU VERY YOUNG? ZAMBIANS DYING OF HUNGER BECAUSE SOUTH AFRICA HAS SEVERED TRADE TIES WITH ZAMBIA! MY FOOT! IN THE DAYS OF APARTHEID, IT WAS ONLY ZAMBIA IN THE SOUTHERN REGION OF AFRICA AND BEYOND THAT BOYCOATED TRADE TIES WITH APARTHEID SOUTH AFRICA AND IF YOU KNOW THE IMPLICATIONS OF THAT THEN THAT’S WHEN ZAMBIANS SHOULD HAVE DIED. WE HAD TO START AIRLIFTING COPPER TO OVERSEAS AND THAT WAS HOW TAZARA WAS BORN BY THE HELP OF CHINA. THE WEST WHO OWNED AND STILL OWN MOST SOUTH AFRICAN COMPANIES REFUSED TO HELP ZAMBIA BUILD A RAIL LINE BETWEEN KAPIRI. AND DAR. THIS IS BECAUSE THEY ARE THE ONES WHO LOST LARGE VOLUMES OF BUSINESS AS COMPARED TO ZAMBIA. WE SUFFERED, YES, BUT FOR A HUMANITARIAN REASON WHICH I WON’T WASTE TIME EXPLAINING HERE.

  32. Simple question from me Terrible: So how we know that NOMSA is speaking for Zambians? Just because they say so? Can they please sponsor a referendum in Zambia where we Zambians can confirm whether the promiscuous woman NOMSA can speak for us or not. Otherwise go hang yourselves on Table Mountain.

  33. On a serious note, this is the ultimate insult to all Zambians whether PF, UPND, NGOCC, Catholic, CCZ, or any other Zambian. Is Nomsa speaking for us Zambians? Have we Zambians become incapable of solving our own problems? What I know is that we fought for our own independence and we replaced the mighty one party back to multi party democracy without anybody’s help or interference. When we Zambuans are confronted with an external aggressor we unite and fight the aggressor. Once that is done we get back to fight among ourselves politically. That is the Zambia that I know, even in the face of a few noisy donkeys dotted here and there who think that foreigners like the bi.t.ch Nomsa mean well for Zambia.

    • Lungu stole the elections, until the petition is heard he remains illigal to more than 50 % of zambians who voted.

    • Majority of bloggers are too dull to understand what you are communicating. It is sad. A friend of mine was deported from Swaziland for participating in discussion where Sawzis were condemning the king. But here we feel happy when outsider’s overstep into our problems!

  34. How long will it take before Mmembe suffers a stroke? More useful people are dying and this donkey idoit is still alive and kicking?

    • You forget that bawiso is poor and his life expectancy is lower than mmembe. Your father will die before end of this year you cursed dog

  35. Emmanuel Mwaamba has stirred the hornet’s Nest. He should have left Numsa alone. Now with Lungu’s legitimacy being queried by the Commonwealth,SADC , EU etc Lungu has a tough time ahead. To make matters worse the Hearing of the Petition has started and there is no room for further procrastination. The dreaded Petition has to be heard and we can expect a can of worms from the Hearing. Now the evidence on how 2016 Elections were stolen will come out and the culprits who include Emmanuel Mwaamba will be known soon. Now instead of insulting HH u will need his cooperation. Clearly the Tables are turning in HH and UPND’s favour. The Hearing of the Petition and change instance by AU and SADC are game changers. Muyopa Chani? #Let the Petition be Heard. Wapiya munzi.

    • My dear friend, Moya: it is not the international community or NUMSA that vote but that woman who sells fruit in Matero or that carpenter in Chiwempala or that fisherman in Lake Mweru or that farmer in Monze etc etc. ie it is ZAMBIANS who choose who to lead them!!!! For your information, Lusaka, Copperbelt, Luapula, Eastern, Muchinga, Northern and parts of Central provinces all voted for PF and its leader (6.5 PROVINCES!!!). I simply do not see how this HH fellow thinks votes were stolen from him?? What is also surprising is that not a single case of evidence was presented to ConCourt?? EU, Commonwealth observers all declared election free & fair, so what are you still waiting for?

  39. Numsa where were you when miners on the copper belt were thrown on the streets? The number was more than the 2000 you are talking about. The problem with you organisations is that when a common worker like me am hammered right and centre in terms of tax and I complain, you organisations are quiet. If Mr. Meembe had the interest of his workers at heart he should have paid up his tax. The matter here is that what the GRZ has done to Mr. Meembe effect you personally and you feel the pitch. Please Numsa this is sovereignty matter before our courts. The way you put your message across even a blind man can see that you are personally interested and that you have no regards for our thoughts, us Zambians unless we start to throw stones at our leaders, then only you will think we getting some…

    • NUMSA have an interest in what goes on in zambia. They don’t want another Zimbabwe on their doorstep with thousands of zambians fleeing tyranny, unemployment and oppression flooding their country.

      Already they are seeing record number of zambians applying for asylum in SA.

  40. Thank you NUMSA. We have told you about PF as a repressive regime that hides in the name of Christians and uses their Christ’s name in vain by their evil deeds. Shame on ZCTU. ZCTU died with Kafupi. I support the stand taken by NUMSA. As someone has said somewhere, NUMSA should see to it that PF sick politicians are not rushed to South Africa too.

  41. Meembe’s credibility has plummeted to the lowest – failing to pay statutory TAX. All you you are posturing about, you NUMSA, is rubbish. Address yourself to the corruption in South Africa for your organization to show any semblance of credibility.

  42. NUMSA Means NEVER UNDERESTIMATE MMEMBE SEMBE ANAGWAFUTI pa Afcon Under 20 . It was bad medics very near ati azagwa futi munthu when giving medals THUS WHY KZ wanted to be near the PRESIDENT

  43. They are just *****s, all of them responding are Boers trying to protect the Vegitable market in South African chain stores in Zambia. There is no suppression of the media, we just want our money, The Post preached sanity when in the actual sense were thieves stealing from banks , its workers and the tax payers. So deal with your racist behavior and xenophobia before you come to our peaceful nation.

  44. They are just *****s, all of them responding are Boers trying to protect the Vegitable market in South African chain stores in Zambia. There is no suppression of the media, we just want our money, The Post preached sanity when in the actual sense were thieves stealing from banks , its workers and the tax payers. So deal with your racist behavior and xenophobia before you come to our peaceful nation.

  45. Sassa crisis: South Africa’s social security payments in chaos
    By Milton Nkosi
    BBC News, Johannesburg??? These are the issues these guys should be fighting for not Mmembe and his Post

  46. Iam confused now, is NUMSA an organization that deals with internal South African matters for workers or it is also mandated to probe issues in another sovereign state? To hell with their approach on Zambian matters. If they withdraw trade with Zambia what the hell they think will be punished more? What this organization is trying to put forward to Zambia is Boer mentality! No apartheid in Zambia and they should know their boundaries when they are commenting on matters that boarder on a sovereign state. Not even a single day has anyone of our trade unions made such careless statements on their country South Africa! If their interest is to protect Meembe and his Post, then they should come in quietly and sort out the pending ZRA tax bill that Meembe owes the government.

  48. Karl drauss! Wir freuen uns auf unsere Freiheit. Wir freuen uns auf unsere Unabhängigkeit. Wir freuen uns auf unser Rechstatt. Weg mit denem Gewehr. Weg mit deinem Gewalt. Wir haben immer andere Laender in inserem Gebiet unterstuetzt. Du verstehst uns nicht. Du kannst in denem Land bleiben. Es gibt zu viele Schwierigkeiten in deinem Land. Lass uns in Ruhe!

  49. My heart bleeds when I read a lot of these comments against NUMSA. It appears to me that as Zambians a lot of us don’t know our rights and we shall forever be trumpled upon by these Politicians while they are busy loughing at out s.tupidity and we are there singing allelluiah to them. Anyway, shame on you all who don’t see that this PF government is dictatirial and sh.it is being thrown in your faces by the same people that are supposed to protect you but you are busy showering them with praises.

  51. @39.1 Spaka: can you provide some evidence for that, it would help our discussion. How does a country that has a healthy economy slip into hyperinflation and recession like Zimbabwe overnight just because people from 3 provinces (IN MINORITY) did not vote for the current government?? The Chamber of mines has already announced that production will hhit 800,000T this year (more jobe on the CB), First Quantum has already exceeded quartely production, rains have already exceeded expectations (less loadshedding-increased industrial output-more jobs), kwacha has stabilised, bumper harvest on the way, fish prices have dropped….NUMSA have no business here and should concentrate on affairs in RSA.

  52. Zambians please, lets not just support every ***** that attacks us simply because we have our own differences back at home, this ***** from numsa or numsa itself can not be interfering in our running of affairs, in SA you pay tax and it a law that is enforceable so why should this fool without brains tell us crap about crooked mmembe, if he is a beneficially of mmembe’s stealing let the Zambian government as their counterpart in SA to probe this fool. trying to play big fish in a bucket swine.
    leave Zambia alone and my fellow Zambians, lets not support idiocy from this fool, he is seeking recognition so don’t give him any. am more irritated and upset by my fellow Zambians giving this old fool audience, let mmembe pay n then we can entertain this parasites maybe.

  53. Numisa are not being fair here! Their own country has its own issues to sort out such as Xenophobia, a terrible crime rate the worst in Africa by far! South Africa has being called a ticking time bomb with a white population that feels it is being victimised and many chosing to leave whilst some calling for a seperate territory within SA! SA has the highest inequality in terms of wealth creating a tense atmosphere with the poor often seeing rich, educated black bourgeois such as this Numisa rep as the true enemy! Let Numisa focus on its own problems. The Post issue is simple- M’membe is a tax dodger as well as an embezzeler of DBZ and Zambian Airways!

  54. A thieve has felt the bite as money has stopped flowing to Him. He and Mumemba are share holders in the post. Really a very dull creature who has failled to clean the shiiit in South Africa mines and he has resorted to Xenophobia. Stuuupidy person he is. Shame on him.

  55. numsa, look at the fool on the pic, a direct product of the boers and wanting to colonize Zambia, alah stchopet, numsa try to do their work where they belong in SA not try to play important in Zambia

  56. Iam confused now, is NUMSA an organization that deals with internal South African matters for workers or it is also mandated to probe issues in another sovereign state? To hell with their approach on Zambian matters. If they withdraw trade with Zambia what the hell they think will be punished more? What this organization is trying to put forward to Zambia is Boer mentality! No apartheid in Zambia and they should know their boundaries when they are commenting on matters that boarder on a sovereign state. Not even a single day has anyone of our trade unions made such careless statements on their country South Africa! If their interest is to protect Meembe and his Post, then they should come in quietly and sort out the pending ZRA tax bill that Meembe owes the government.
    Reply

  57. Someone explain to me what they want? they have their own country please. Mmembe owes a lot of money, plain and simple. Those who sympathise with him are just plain ignorant, and might be terminally stupid.

  59. Govt has banned importation of fruits and veggies from SA and Shoprite and Food lovers are already protesting about the ban.

  61. The other question is: Did M’membe allow the journalists at The Post to join the Zambia Union of Journalists (ZUJ), or indeed to form their own? NO! Therein lies the critical problem of NUMSA standing up for M’membe – a person who denied his employees the right to exercise their right to belong to a union of their choice!

    Having said that though, one wonders: “WHERE IS ZUJ, PAZA, etc…Ooooh! we will see them marching FEEBLY on May 3…in T-Shirts donated by ….???!!!

  62. “The bedrock of every democracy are freedoms of thought, speech and the press”.I agree 100%. If you as NUMSA was so interested in the happenings in Zambian political circles, where were you when the freedoms of people with discerning views especially PF members were being bitten in certain cases murdered in Southern Province during campaigns and the run up to elections. Mind you I lost my sister. Don’t exhibit double standards. As citizens we will not sit back as well when we see people like yourselves abusing fundamental freedoms in the name of freedom of expression. There is always two sides of a coin. Don’t listen to one side of a story.
    By the way if you say Zambian people, Iam a Zambian, well placed than you far down south to understand the genesis of the all issue at hand. You…

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