President Edgar Lungu has reiterated his message that he has no power to intervene in what the Police are doing with the incacerated United party for National Development leader Hakainde Hichilema. In a speech in Kasama, the President said that although some people are saying President Lungu has the power to intervene in the criminal justice here in Zambia, he does not and will not. He stated that the only power he had was to pardon a convicted person after wide consultations.
Below are some of the excerpt from the speech
When we came for campaigns here in Kasama, I was with Hon Felix Mutati who stood here and told me that our people here in Kasama needed 3 things; a Hospital, University and a Stadium.
So I told Hon Mutati who is now my Minister of Finance that with your appointment, you have an opportunity to deliver to the people of Kasama the development MMD had not delivered in 20 years, I even told the Paramount Chief Chitimukulu when I visited him sometime back.
I have instructed the Ministers for Health and Education to take the lead and complete all work in progress in this region.
The votes Northern province and Kasama gave us the Patriotic Front Ninkongole. I am indebted to you and since I can not come here and start dishing out money to every single person, I can only repay your support with development in the region.
There is a saying in bemba – weumpako, isankupeko. Weumpako, isankupeko. Weumpako, isankupeko. Na weuntana, isankutane! My only desire is to serve our people. We want to finish all work in progress and begin new Projects.
Concerning bamukukulu, I want to repeat what I said when I arrived in Kasama this morning . There is no one above the law! Up in heaven, there is God Almighty, then there is the law and then all of us in that order.
Some people are saying President Lungu has the power to intervene in the criminal justice here in Zambia – no Bwana, I am a lawyer myself and understand my job. Yes, I have the power to pardon convicts and NOT suspects. And I can only pardon a convict after wide consultations.
Let us allow the Judiciary to do its job, the Executive to work and the Legislature to do its part.
Let me ask you; how many of my own cadres are before the Courts of law today? How many have been convicted? Have you ever heard that President Lungu picked up a phone to call any Police officer to drop an investigation or prosecution – so what is so special about the current one?
I know what is happening because I am in charge!
I am cadre number One, you mess up PF, I will deal with you. I am also civil servant number One, you mess up the civil service, you face me. So I don’t expect a civil servant to say “I can not read the PF party manifesto.” You are there because of the party.
Yaba kwena, we don’t know where we are going indeed. Our future is so bleak with this chipantepante PF.
Well said Mr President Sir! However try considering that this case might distract earlier matters that this Human Hyena blood thirsty animal HH is guilty of such as: inciting and encouraging violence in Namwala and other United Dunderhead strongholds, embezzlement of state assets and under valuation of state assets during privitisation, mistreatment and under payment of his employees (no wonder one of his own servants gave him up!), acting as an agent for the Zamtroop account during the Chiluba regime and so many other shady deals! HH is an evil, evil person just reading the comments and wishes of death from his blood thirsty animals confirms this! We don’t agree with these dunderheads but we never have wished death on them!
The president is right.
Anyone facing criminal charges is against the state, not against Lungu.
Even in the case if HH, he committed crimes against the state not Lungu.
Therefore the president is absolutely right, he has no power to pardon a suspect, but the state gives him power to pardon a prisoner.
Others it would be against the constitution and in contravention with the law to pardon some who is not a convict.
So, let the law take us full course, either convicting HH or acquitting him.
After that people can now please with the head of state to pardon him if he is convicted.
Now pardoning a suspect will abort the legal process, and suppose HH is innocent how will he prove it if he is pardoned on assumption?
No country give the president power to pardon suspects.
Someone in PF needs to remind Lungu that he is only a ‘President and not the ‘King’ of Zambia. Two terms and your out!!
He would say . :Come and arrest me.
Am ready to die in jail
Its only 3days and he is alredy missing chibwantu.
Treason trial its 5yrs upto 2022
Lungu is a slimy character. Always look to the opposite of whatever he says. He would want to have HH convicted and stay in jail for years before forgiving him so that he is barred from standing in 2021. That’s the only thing on Lungu’s mind right now – A THIRD TERM.
@1 MY FRIEND DON’T SAY, ‘WE’, BECAUSE I PERSONALLY KNOW WHERE WE ARE GOING. IF YOU DON’T KNOW IT’S BECAUSE YOU ARE BLIND AND DEAF AND OUTSIDE ZAMBIA. BECAUSE, EVEN BLIND AND DEAF ZAMBIANS WHO ARE IN ZAMBIA OR WITH ZAMBIA KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THEY ARE GOING. SO, PLEASE DON’T INCLUDE ME MU MUNGULU OBE.
HH, LIKE ANY OTHER ZAMBIAN MUST BE DEALT WITH. HH IS NOTHING SPECIAL IN ZAMBIA. KK AND SIMON MWANSA KAPWEPWE AND MANY OTHERS HAVE BEEN THERE. IN FACT HH JUST DELIVERED HIMSELF THERE.
UPND has no choice but to face reality that HH desperately needs freedom from jail. This treason charge may take a full course of the justice process ending intoconviction and a long run tenancy in Mukobeko. He is better off living with a conviction than spending his life in jail. There is life beyond politics. If there are mature trustees, his wife must mandate them with involvement of Nalumango to start negotiations with the Boma of the day behind the scene for a possible prerogative of mercy post conviction. Ask family of Yoram Mumba and Edward Shamwana if treason charges leave you normal. HH is degenerating fast negotiate with Chagwa. There is Boma in Zambia. Note, our prisons are not reformatory institutions but melting pots.
Spend time with your families this Easter Holiday and show them Love.
Today you may be here, tomorrow you are at Roben Island.
Its shocking to hear these things from a Christian President on Good Friday.
How i wish someone would take this ldiot out – and i don’t mean to a pub!
Lungu pardons gangsters. Rapists, murderers to look good in the eyes of international donors.
Forget aid for a while now..! No dictatorship in the West is accepted.
Soon the hypocrite will be calling for prayers and fasting, and the dumb citizens will gather at show grounds to pray in vanity.
This brain dead of a president is a joke.
Well put Mr. President. Let those who thrive on criminality face the law. Nga mwaumfwa uluse kuti mwamwelelako mu 2026!
IT IS CHECK MATE TO hh AND HIS FELLOW HATERS LIKE @ BUCK TEETH .. NEZ (BITTER BLOGGER) AND JAY JAY.
FAKE PRESIDENT hh IN PRISON REAL PRESIDENT LUNGU RULING.
We are have power to stop persecuting each other and this is the reason died on the cross why should we be hypocrites and call ourselves Christians even when we harbour malice and hatred against each other. why should we cheat the world by claiming that we are Christians yet our deeds are evil and can easily been seen everywhere
THE TREND IN ZAMBIA. KAUNDA, THE 1ST PRESIDENT, WAS MADE TO LEAVE PLOT 1 WHEN HE WAS NOT READY TO GO. CHILUBA, THE SECOND PRESIDENT, WAS FORCED TO GO WHEN HE WANTED A 3RD TERM AGAINST THE CONSTITUTION. MWANAWASA, THE 3RD PRESIDENT, DIED BEFORE THE END OF HIS 2ND TERM. BANDA, 4TH PRESIDENT, WAS VOTED OUT OF OFFICE AFTER THREE YEARS IN OFFICE. SATA, THE 5TH PRESIDENT, DIED IN OFFICE DURING HIS 1ST TERM. LUNGU, 6TH PRESIDENT, WILL NOT BE THE EXCEPTION, HIS TENURE WILL ONE DAY COME TO AN END, EITHER THROUGH NATURE DEATH OR PEOPLE WILL FORCE HIM OUT. THERE IS AN END TO EVERYTHING. TREAT HH AND GBM AS YOU WOULD LIKE THEM TO TREAT YOU.
THE PRESIDENT IS QUITE RIGHT
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UPND leader HH remains incarcerated until the third arm of Government completes its due process of a successful trial under this very non-bailable charge of TREASON. Any attempt by the serving president to free the suspect, will be deemed interference. So remain calm as the Judiciary deliberates.
Right now HH is innocent (remains accused) but in custody (due to the nature of the charge) until proven guilty which in essence means conviction (meaning HH will hung according to the law).
One step at a time. You know the court processes now don’t you? Adjournment after Adjournment, it could even take 5 years ka? Or a Nolle prosequi could be entered but HH could at least have tasted jail for a true while. Watch this space.
Lungu. What does HH’s children or wife have to do with his political issues. You went and teargased children and a woman. What if they died. Shame on you. The issue here is you sent thugs and criminal to go and attack an innocent man and his family. This is not how you lead a country especially when you are fraudulently president
HYPOCRITE!!
How did you ”PARDON” Rupiah Banda & his sons for theft?
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Those charges are trumped up. What a childish illegal president you are.
Fix the economy & pipo will admire you, not by being brutal. Zambia is not uganda. This *****1c move will backfire & explode in your face.
– HH was never a driver of any of those vehicles
– Your police failed in their duties by not placing sweepers along the route as per protocol.
When you look at it closely, the whole thing looks like it was a trap/set-up. If your rotten judiciary decides to hear the case its gonna spell doom & bloodshed.
A self respecting person who claims to be a Christian and publically goes to church cannot possibly do this!
If this Lungu thinks he is President, the FIRST THING he should be doing is opening and investigation into how the Police behaved in this case.Or does he think it is OK for the police to smash down gates, teargas women and children, defecate and urinate on a Citizen of Zambias bed, destroy his property and steal his money in the middle of the night?Is this how the “law” is now being applied in Zambia?A decent, Godly President would have IMMEDIATELY suspended the police officer in charge, pending a full investigation, and then kicked him out of the police force if found wanting, with criminal charges against him to follow. Obviously Lungu is not President. Can Zambian please have…
Please we are not asking you to pardon hh. We still done recognise you mate. Therefor to us you have no power to do so. We will fight this through the courts and we hope that consequences will follow also should hh be found to be in the right. We are not scared . All we ask for is a fair hearing in a free and fair environment. This has always been our requests for the petition to be heard. We are not pleading for leniency from an illegal president. Grow up lungu
Bwana . And you think hh will get a fair judgment from the judges he calls corrupt.
You are same people that misguilded him. Today he is a small room.
The best you can do is as obasango to negoitiate .
It took big powers to set kk free.
As long as you refuse to recognise appointing authority the court system will frustrate you.
There’s nothing to negotiate with crooks. Obasanjo can negotiate with Lungu if he wants to. Lungu’s hands are stained with the blood of Mapenzi and Choongwa. He now wants to add HH’s.
@NEZ (new educated Zambia UPND ) BEST BLOGGER 2016.
You say you dont recognise him as president, and of course that is why hh refused give way to presidential motorcade.
While it might look simple to just refuse to recognise authority, the consequences are that, based on that refusal, hh has began to break the law, in the name of “we don’t recognise Lungu”.
You go to Saudi Arabia, and tell them me I come from Dundumwezi, we don’t recognise your Sharia law. Then try to break that law, and check the following morning if you will still be walking.
Now, since you say you don’t recognise him as head of state, why ask for fairness from lungu? Are you saying you recognise him as a judge?
It’s laughable (as @ Jay Jay would say). So this dude really thinks right minded people believe his pretentious garbage from his mouth. He orders the cops to arrest HH and then turns around and say the judiciary and the police are independent, and there is separation of powers. If anyone believes this Lungu bullcr@p, I suggest you see a psychiatrist.
And if anyone ever doubted what dictatorship looks like, you have the definition of it right now in Zambia. Dude is on a mission to eliminate every potential opposition and perceived enemies.
The sad part is Zambians sitting idle and praying to their god to help them out instead of getting out to stand up to this dictatorship.
Nez, Who is we? Uyu mulandu, you will answer on your own. Be careful dont speak for people you have not consulted.
MEDIOCRITY!
EASTER MESSAGE
Please stay away from the PFolice this Easter. It is now clear that Lungu is using traffic infringements to kill certain tribes. They will either kill you straight away in the cells or concoct some treasonable charge somehow so that they can kill you later anyway. My advice is to quickly admit fault and pay the bribe. Bembas only want money; it is not about rule of law.
Buck Teeth LUNGU
You are a big dissapointment. Even when we face a crisis as a nation you are still in your tribalism mentality. I am Bemba but I don’t think like you.GROW UP.
Aids and syphilis is now taking toll on Lungu.lol lol this Chawama dirty drunkard will face a water loo soon.
Lungu thinks Zambians are dull when he actually had a cold pass in his law degree. When proof is there of your officials directing the police on actions to take now you want to make it look like you respect separation of powers. You are a mad dog lungu you s0n of a bltch. Plus you know who I am so even me bring your police here to arrest me and we will see who is man enough after these cases are concluded
Which Zambians? Am definitely not me.
indeed you are definitely not you kikiki you dont even know who you are. wake up bro
Nez, give your address to ZP so that ZP can pi k you, so that we see who is man enough. Don’t hide behind social media, your friend Tayali has been picked, he was found hiding behind face book.
As I have said in the past zp and including you illegal president know my home address and the upnd head quarters in Lusaka where I work from. If they are man enough they are free to come here and face me. It seems you find nothing wrong with some one been arrested for expressing their opinion on a silly social media platform. Zambia is now a dictatorship and you are sat comfortably abroad as an economic refugees promoting amafi. Come back home so that you enjoy pf dictatorship. What you scared of you coward
Well articulated and for sure
S. Sudan, Somalia, Zimbabwe, S. Africa, DRC, Uganda etc same stuff. Learn from others’ mistakes and make a positive difference. This is like going back to UNIP days. Boasting and orders what for? Use the experiences from the past and in the region and world to make positive strategic decisions. Believe me, ECL you can do it. Don ‘t make these template statements and actions which we all know have failed us as a country and as a continent. Help especially those who don’t know that they don’t know. Please, don’t take advantage of their ignorance (youth cadres).
Lungu and PF are incapable of learning. The group think that Kaiffer Zulu and Anus Chanda are exhibiting show a bunch of dunderheads who are sadly in control of a country.
Citizen, perhaps you were not there during KKs times. All the politicians today are learned because of KK and his party. All learned people above the age of 30 today KK had them educated. Comparing KK to today’s politicians is like comparing a grandfather to a grandson. Leave Km Andy Unip out of this. You wanted multi party democracy yet you have no respect for each other amaselefye yena mwalishiba. Km gave us one party participatory democracy things worked well. We lived together in harmony. We respected the leadership although we never agreed with them.
Hate him or love him he spoke the truth. You dont expect him to deliver to provinces that did not vote for him. Go go go northen province you worked its pay back time
There is a recording of Amos giving orders to the IG on what to do to HH. It has gone viral on the social media.
@ petrocelli, that is one of the most pernicious evil PF brought! It is actually worse than political apartheid we had in SA. This Economic apartheid is what causes some presidents to be constantly crying for recognition. The best example we should follow is that of Mwanawasa. He took development to all corners of the country and managed to expand the MMD stronghold and people in opposition strongholds got to love him and his party. Development should never be politicized the way PF has done! If God was PF, it would only rain in PF strongholds. We thank God that He is not PF!
But southern province didn’t and never voted for Mwanawasa!! What development did He take to these bantustans?? For all I remember, it was Sata’s PF that put a bridge in Shan’gombo to connect them to the rest of the country!! How about the most expensive bridge in Africa on the western province plains??-Michael Sata and PF. You people were brainwashed by M’membe and his cartel to believe Mwanawasa is the best president and Rupiah was just a criminal-DEFINITELY NOT!! It was under Mwanawasa that the JUDICIARY was infiltrated by those hyenas the Nchitos and the cartel!! It was Mwanawasa who abrogated the constitution by interfering in the affairs of then DPP Mukelabai in his obsession with that failed Chiluba anti-corruption rubbish!!
How about that boxer adviser?
Having worked with Bembas and nyanjas the only language they can understand is war.These cowards talk a lot but can fight.They work like wild dogs in a pack.Mwanya Barosteland has mutered you have brought to your selfs.
Lungu should know that he is the Commander in Chief and the IG acts on directives from him. Lungu and numerous Leaders in PF said they wanted HH caged and he has been jailed. The back stops with Lungu, who doesn’t know that? Like somebody said Lungu’s “Leadership is no different from Idi Amin! When one doesn’t have any knowledge to govern,they lose self confidence,hence resort to persecution and killing their rightful opposers”. I cant say it any better. Illegitimate Lungu is a hypocrite who never takes full responsibility for his actions. Lungu is hoping to kill the Petition by imprisoning the Petitioners and forcing them to recognize him without Hearing the Petition. It will not work and instead that strategy will further divide Zambians.
The only advise to you Mr President is that make sure you do not commit any offense in the execution of your duties as president like Chiluba did otherwise you will end up in the same cell hh is now…Time is the best weapon on earth…tick tack tick tack… The clock is moving
Too late! Lungu has already committed 3 treasonable acts. It is just a matter of time before he goes in himself.
How will that happen when UPND will always have fewer MPS as compared to PF. Remember that Parliament approves the removal of immunity. Ba UPND, you have a long way to go.
Economist, never say never…you don’t know what tmorow brings. with the deep cracks in the Paya Farmer club…UPND may just strike it. God work in mysterious ways that not even the IG, Maxi Chonga or even Kaizant Luzu can intervene. God never sleeps, neither does He slumber otherwise the sun would stop shining and it will forever be night
I have always argued that Lungu was not fit to ascend to the highest office of the land. The man lacks managerial and leadership training and experience. Some of the things he says and does are mind boggling! I love people with independent minds able to tell right from wrong, not those who wait for cadres to tell them what to do or say. History of serving as MP or counsellor is not enough because there is very little learning – many never get back to their people once elected and only do things for political expediency. As long as Lungu lasts in that office, forget about progress. The left over infrastructure development belongs to Sata’s legacy. He needs to tell us what legacy he wants to leave behind. I can only see the legacy of brutality, wicked schemes and incompetence! You need a…
You need a loving heart to lead people to prosperity!
Tayali has been arrested for alleging that Kanganja had plotted to kill the president in Mongu
In a functioning democracy, Tayali wouldn’t have to be arrested for airing his suspicions. The burden of proof lies with Edgar and his police. Talking to some former IGs, they are shocked with the politicization of our police and security wings. These are supposed to operate independently and professionally and if this was the case, the Mongu set up would never have happened. Muna Ndulo could never have put it any better. We are now a police state where even the life of a soldier can be taken at the instigation of criminals disguised as cadres. It is now very difficult to differentiate between cadres and criminals. Instead of concentrating on things that uplift our economy, we are busy lazing around politiking. It is not a crime to have differences in opinions. To those who want their…
To those who want their enemies to be our enemies, we are sorry to disappoint you. Our job as Christians is to LOVE the unlovable so that they know the way of love! A nation is built on love and not hate.
Ba UPND, seems a lot of you have a very twisted way of thinking, maybe as “the UPND leader so are the UPND cadres”. ECL has explained he can only pardon a convict and not a suspect, because a suspect is still “an innocent person until proved guilty”. HH is still an “innocent” person so let the Law take its course. If treason is not a “bailable” case, so be it. Simply ensure that he is brought to court without wasting time etc as he have a right to a fair trial.
Do not be a blind follower, FYI I am not anyone’s cadre but the way this whole think was conducted is questionable. Why deploy tons of police/army, additionally destroy his property, had he be in hiding?????? Lelo it’s HH, who is next. I don’t care if you’re are eating from the same plate with Lungu, you need to be objective, it is every Zambians life at stake here
Bembas and easterners should be wary of Lungu. In 1982, when Nkhomo was forced to flee Zimbabwe dressed as a woman while Mugabe was killing tens of thousands of Ndebeles using the 5th Brigade during Gukurahundi, the Shonas cheered. Now the Shonas are sweeping streets all over the world because their monster, Mugabe, is now uncontrollable.
UNIP
Upnd don’t listen. They were told by Lubinda that there is no such a case as _”hearing a petition ” before the courts, what is there is whether Upnd were given the rtght to be heard or not. He went on to say that the petition was thrown out after the 14 days basically. They don’t want to listen.
Lungu don’t plunge Zambia into chaos we love our Country. Zambia is not for PF only but for all Zambians. Don’t underestimate the power in numbers. Zambian people are peaceful they have been quiet and waiting for you as Chief commander to intervene. Why let Amos Chanda to dictate Kanganja? It is sad I wish Mwanawasa was still in control of Zambia. If you have love for our Country do something.
And Lungu will go to church and stand in the pulpit. The biggest shame in all of this is that the Church is failing the ordinary Zambian. Ba Pente, UCZ, catholics, SDA’s e.t.c, stand up and be counted. You are all bearing false witness. Go into the streets and prayerfully protest this madness and surel our God in heaven will hear just as he has done before when those who love him have called upon his name. Lungu better read about Nebuchadnezzar and not play dumb hiding behind the law he cannot even uphold
“…I am cadre number One, you mess up PF, I will deal with you…”
There you have it. Lungu is just a common theif with the extraordinary skill of manipulating and bribing all those round him and all structures of GRZ. period.
Chakolwa should not think that he will be illegally occupying that office forever. Time will come when he will dragged to courts using the same police he is abusing today. That fool should not think he is God. With Ngulu, Zambia is cursed.
The Bible teaches the respect of the Law(of the Government) and your HH did not and any church faithful to the teaching of Christ will only stand up and say let the Law take its course. What the church can do is to counsel HH and his followers on the need to respect the Law.
The same bible you purportedly read talks about Mercy, Grace and Justice and Forgiveness and yes Lungu is in a position to offer this, just as I want to hope that you have received Mercy and forgiveness from the Lord that none of us have deserved. Think about it
The president is right.
Anyone facing criminal charges is against the state, not against Lungu.
Even in the case of HH, he committed crimes against the state, not Lungu.
Therefore the president is absolutely right, he has no power to pardon a suspect, but the state gives him power to pardon a prisoner.
Otherwise it would be against the constitution and in contravention with the law to pardon someone who is not a convict.
So, let the law take its full course, either convicting HH or acquitting him.
After that people can now please with the head of state to pardon him if he is convicted.
Now pardoning a suspect will abort the legal process, and suppose HH is innocent how will he prove it if he is pardoned on assumption?
No country gives the president power to pardon…
Am in consent with Lungu to let the matter be determined by the courts of law. Let the court look at the law and the facts and adjudicate whether what transpired is tantamount to treason or not. As I had written in my earlier post count one has no legs and I await the court’s decision. I wish all cases as to raising the charge sheets were speedily handled in such a manner as HH’s. Am reminded of Kaiser’s matter which also had video evidence and todate, from over a month ago, Kanganja is still investigating and no arrest has been done. For HH with the vidoe evidence Kanganja only took 3 days. Could it be that Kaiser’s case is complicated? Mr. Lungu you need to look through the prism of rule of law in all cases.
@ 19.1 Avolatro,
So you believe that Kaiser Zulu also committed a crime – arguing in public?
And in your view that was supposed to be treason.
LUNGU has continued his irresponsible attitude of burying his head in the sand just like he he did during election violence.
Is this the type of weak, irresponsible Dicktator N/E Rhodesians admire?
Or maybe it’s becoz he’s not affected by the bloodshed coz he’s surrounded by bodyguards, paramilitary, secret agents.
@Chali:you are 100% correct.we have tried to advise HH followers but they dont listen.@NEZ:PLEASE DONT INCLUDE AND ALL MY FAMILY MEMBERS IN THOSE ZAMBIANS WHO ARE NOT HAPPY.@Spaka like lilo:indeed ECL is PF cadre number,just like HH is UPND cadre no.1 so nothing wrong there.HH is still very innocent because he is simply a suspect.so allow the court to give him a fair trial (law to take its course).ANY REAL CHRISTIAN WILL GIVE YOU THIS ANSWER.our court will look at the evidence from Mongu and how HH has been behaving since 11/08/2016 by refusing to recognize a dully elected president.IF THE COURT WONT SEE ANYTHING WRONG IN THAT,THEN HH WILL BE ACQUITTED BUT IF FOUND GUILTY,THEN HE WILL BE CONVICTED.AFTER HH IS JAILED IS WHEN ECL CAN COME IN TO PARDON KAINDE FROM JAIL AND NOT NOW!!is this…
why would i inculude dull idi0ts like you? i mean the sensible majority of zambians
@Maloza:stop promoting tribalism.you are just wasting your time and hurting yourself because Zambia will remain a united Zambia.HH is not Alpha and Omega.Zambian politics have seen other gallant tonga politicians such as Mazoka,Harry Mwaanga Nkumbula,Mainza Chona,etc who have come and gone minus being presidents,but Zambia remains a united nation.IF HH was meant to be president,he will be one day.just advise him to stop leading upnd like a terror group.IF HE DIDNT MISBEHAVE IN MONGU LAST WEEK,TODAY HH COULD HAVE BEEN ENJOYING LIFE AT HIS NEW KASAMA HOUSE.but since ZP say he commited a crime,let court determine this case!!HH may fail to be president but other tongas will come up and be presidents.NEVER THINK LIKE A KID!!
What happened to Samuel Chavula if theres No interfering from the Drunken one??
Max Chongo is currently free to roam, & continue terr0rising opposition members, despite being involved in Aggravated Robbery in Petauke, prior to the Sham election, that was manipulated by Kaizer & Chavula.
The last time I checked anyone involved in violent acts with Firearms DOES NOT GET BAILED!! Question to sham -theft Convicted Lawyer Chagwa is, where is Samuel Chavula, & who released him? Why is the Violent P.F Goon “Blockhead” -Max Chongo still roaming free
PROBLEM IS ZAMBIA IS BEING RULED BY A BOTTLE OF JAMESON WHISKY, so Nothing coherent will ever come out of a Bottle of Jameson Whisky!
@NEZ:sadly for you,the same great majority of Zambians are in 6.5 provinces (namely;Lusaka,Central,Copperbelt,Luapula,Northern,Muchinga and Eastern) areas which are as quiet as snow right now!!!out of the 14 or 15 million Zambians-remove the population of these 6.5 provinces and you will see where majority zambians are!!NEZ:STOP BOTHERING YOUR HEART.HH IS STILL INNOCENT.THE COURT (WHICH UPND INSULT DAILY) WILL CLEAR OR CONVICT HIM-SIMPLE !check all international TV channels(BBC,CNN,Sky news,CGTN,Russia Today,DW,etc) on DSTv-there is no news about the arrest of HH or anybody blaming the arrest of HH.this confirms that HH IS ONLY BIG IN UPND CADRES HEADS!!the rest of us and the world never lose a single sleep over HH!!
Muchinga is not a province so its 5 to 4 provinces.its not provinces that wins presidential elections its every Zambian who votes for you that’s why Hh won.We don’t have chitulika constituency.Musalila keep on under lating us.If HH is not a factor why have you jailed him.
Keep away from triable and you will be a free person,And mind whant you say.be a nice person and you lose bathing me.
@NEZ, I think the majority of sensible Zambians will think along the lines of @Njimbu’s contribution and NOT yours. So for you to be in the minority, means you are either a genius or something else, and the only way we can find out is review your contributions.
I think you meant insensible. You should even be ashamed not to distinguish right from wrong. PF or other parties, how Lungu has handled this is very wrong. The IG is the one to fired not sending thugs and criminals to an innocent person’s house
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Lungu will pay the price of his actions. Don’t think you will be president forever. You illegally won that election and it is in public domain that the results were manipulated. The best you have done is avoid this type of behaviour. HH is not a criminal and that incident in mongu is non criminal in nature. Who taught this failure law? My advise is do the right thing and release the innocent man. Do not allow this country plunge in flames. He thinks abusing power with carder police shows strength. Anything happens to HH this country will never be the same so Lungu stop what you are doing.
HH lost and terribly so. He also has fewer MPs. Get it in your dumb heads ba UPND that no one will ever remove the immunity of ECL. You just don’t have the numbers in parliament and will never. PF is here to stay and HH will never rule.
If he lost why is the fraud president refusing to prove his legitmacy in court? A win would have welcomed the move but look how he dogged and interferenced with the process. And why is ” suspect ” in jail before court process. The arrest was inhuman and carried out by thugs and criminals in police uniform
Economist, whoever you are, Lungu was not born a President so don’t say PF is here to stay, waanya, PF will die, soon too watch the space
Who does ECL think he is kidding. He now pretends he is not the one behind the arrest of HH. He is the hypocrite of a leader with credibility.
Wait. We are still dealing with your HH. Trial will take 5 years. Meanwhile mukalyati. Lets see who the boss is. Ba Kolwee imwee.
No credibility
Let me tell you Lungu, the problem is there is no law which is followed in your government. Everything is broken own. Then if the police can not follow the law, who do they blame? It’s you Chagwa. You are not fit to be a president, it was by chance. Your judiciary is broken down. Your government is a jangle. You will not be a president for ever, time is ticking. We have had presidents, but not as evil as you are. On Easter you behave like devil. Any way you are not a Christian, I forgot.
Ester means nothing
@NEZ (new educated Zambia UPND ) BEST BLOGGER 2016.
You say you dont recognise him as president, and of course that is why hh refused give way to presidential motorcade.
While it might look simple to just refuse to recognise authority, the consequences are that, based on that refusal, hh has began to break the law, in the name of “we don’t recognise Lungu”.
You go to Saudi Arabia, and tell them me I come from Dundumwezi, we don’t recognise your Sharia law. Then try to break that law, and check the following morning if you will still be walking.
Now, since you say you don’t recognise him as head of state, why ask for fairness from lungu? Are you saying you recognise him as a judge?
ECL is double tongued. Can he explain why KZ has never been arrested for his violent activities towards women. Is it not because of his intervention?
This presido is a loser and a complete disgrace
Talk is cheap… the cops and judges he orders to commit these crimes and then hide behind them must be in a really tough and embarrassing situation – their consciousness must be troubled at night. If they had any integrity they would quit.
How evil can Lungu be – first he steals HH’s presidency and then arrests him on trumped up charges of Treason. Jeez, the definition of ‘Treason’ must be weak and cheap. People have been arrested jumping over the White House with loaded guns and they never get charged with treason. And we are talking about merely driving in the same road with ‘president’ Lungu and it’s treason… wtf?
Biblical lesson 1: Pharaoh hard hearted person was raised by God to be head of Egypt during the repression of the Israelis in ancient times of the Old Testament. Eventually with providence from God, Israelis left Egypt for the promised land. Details are known when Egyptians tried to pursue them. Pharaoh was mysteriously eaten up by worms.
Death to Lungu, long live Zambia.
Nsimanadelele12..
We just managed to get your IP address. We know where you live and work. You have nowhere to hide. You are definitely going in.
HH is useless too. Chishimba very useless. Nawakwi, useless too, I wonder who’s d1(k she’s sucking right now. Useless people.
GOD IS GIVING SOME ONE THE RIGHT TO DO WHAT HE WANTS AND HE KNOWS WHEN TO DRAW DOWN HIS FATE. SOME DIES A NOBLE DEATH AND IS RECOGNIZED BY ALL BUT SOME DIE A SHAME DEATH AND MANY REJOICES AND BURIED LIKE A DOG.
CONTINUE BOASTING BOSS KNOW THAT GOD SHALL ONE DAY TAKE YOU OUT AND YOU SHALL BE NOBODY.
UNIP mulilio UNIP!
Rem that?
What else can this lungu say?
Lungu will die like king Ahab and Jasabel he will be eaten with dogs.God Jehova is powerfull.
POWER, Lungu has power, hes drunk with power, corrupt with power, just know that judgement awaits us all, whether powerful or powerless..you went touched our Lord’s tomb pretending to be a repentant but the true you will always show..
Does repentant mean not to discipline law breakers?
Problen of being Drunk with Power, is if One is Drunk with Jameson, then You have Double Trouble DRUNK WITH POWER & JEMASONI, so Zambia ends up A FAILED STATE!!
Ba Lungu lyanshi lya Ku Chawama for once be President of Zambia who is deceiving you.
That’s a good one my President
Let the law take it’s cost, and no is above the law mind you.
Kikikikikikikikiki yaba Nizee wina aza lila
Obasanjo should negotiate for chibok girls
If Cheque bouncer mpompo, incomplete certificate holder masumba, non bank account holder (underground safe) liyato, were forgiven then treason convict will too be free after fair judgement.
Weumpako isakupeko weuntana isa nkutane!!!!!
is that coming from a president of Zambia????
is that even a normal statement from a head of state???
and letter on a very humble christian???
Anyways the Bible says you will know them by their fruits.
Some people have just come to divide this country so that they can thrive on confusion.
Saying ECL is a child or brain dead is an understatement. He is worse off. Zambians (PF or UPND) you continue to see how your president sees and relates to the world. Its shocking. And among you someone will say there is nothing wrong with his ‘Weumpako isakupeko, weuntana isa nkutane’ statement.
@ 47.1 citizen,
And if you say that about Lungu,
Then what do you say about HH who dribbles himself by playing delay tactics against himself in court during the period of hearing his expired petition?
Be strong hh, it’s a long night to tomorrow, or Tuesday morning as a matter of fact.
Obviously you are strong, otherwise you would not be acting silly with matters of national peace and security.
I am sure by now the donkeys you call supporters are busy enjoying getting drunk and everything that goes with it. They will be blogging again tomorrow morning when they recover from their hangovers. I saw NEZ doing just that at his favourite pub.
Those that carried out the nasty road incident in Mongu (the Tonga oligarchy, their masters in South Africa and its lapdogs in UPND seemed happy when the video clip came out) but are now shouting and screaming like hyenas because their leader is accounting for his actions. We know Mr. Obasanjo and who he represents; this corrupt general does not understand democracy. He presided over the most brutal regime on the continent of Africa.
I HAVE STARTED INSULTING OUR TRADITIONAL CHIEFS FROM NORTHWESTERN, COPPER BELT, CENTRAL (LENJES), LUSAKA AND WESTERN PROVINCES. WHY HAVE YOU SO DULL TO KEEP QUIET INSTEAD OF RAISING YOUR VOICES SO THAT LUNGU AND HIS PEOPLE KNOW THAT YOU ARE NOT HAPPY WITH LUNGU? IS IT BECAUSE OF THE MONEY YOU ARE PAID BY LUNGU THAT HAS MADE YOUR MOUTHS DUMP THAT YOU CAN NOT TALK? I RESPECT CHIEF MUSELI BUT THE REST ARE PURE MONEY LOVERS AND BECAUSE OF MONEY ALL HAVE SOLD THEIR BIRTHRIGHTS TO LUNGU.
WHERE IS THE SO CALLED COUNCIL OF ELDERS IN ALL THESE LINED UP PROVINCES? DO YOU WANT US TO BE FORCED THAT WE DIE BY USING OUR POWERS? YOU ARE ALL COWARDS UNTIL WE YOUR CHILDREN HEAR YOUR VOICE THEN CAN WE SAY YOU ARE WITH US. LUNGU IS NOT FOREVER. YOURS IS FOR LIFE.
Completely agree with you. Every elder needs to unite and talk against this holigan type of behaviour. Lungu cannot be allowed to infringe on citizen’s rights even though they oppose him.
To all you PF thugs and uncilivized humans. What does HH’s children and wife have to do with anything in his political affairs. Lungu sent thugs and criminals to loot and destory the man’s house. There no justification for such type of behaviour. What if his child had died. Tell your Lungu you do not do such things. If they wanted to arrest him they could waited for the next day and called him in not attack his family and workers. Especially tearging a room where they are children is inhuman. If he has failed to manage the economy or govern let him leave not do such things.
So, from the scriptures above the police are doing their job according to what the Bible expects them to do.
The police and authorities are God’s servants who are expected to do what they are doing.
And Lungu has no issue at this time. He has clearly indicated that at the stage thing are he is no in any way empowered to do anything.
Unless the matter was at the stahe when one is serving prison sentence, can Lungu come in to intervene by the prerogative of mercy, which power is vested in him at that stage.
LT please block peace for zambia especially from responding to my comment. This dull and useless PF carder is irrating. A wrong is a wrong. No police should enter someone’s house the way they entered HH’s. Did he resist? There were children in that house. This should be condemened by any senible human unless unprincipled and unculture chaps like this irrating peace for zambia. HH or any Zambian even if you do not like them should not be treated in human like this
True Zambian, you have a beautiful brain, so objective in every post! Blessed be your parents for raising such a well-groomed child! Keep it up!
As for “peace for Zambia”, the title is misleading because the postings don’t work towards peace. Not every authority is from God! We wrestle not against flesh and blood but evil principalities of the devil and his fallen angels misleading our current leaders to do evil while holding the bible and pretending to be Christians. Tell me, when John the Baptist told off the king of his wrong for which he was arrested, do you think he was being disrespectful to the king? Absolutely not! He was contending with evil. Those that claim to be Christians must speak out against the wrongs that are being done. Yes, speaking out upholds righteousness but…
Yes, speaking out upholds righteousness but there is always persecution that goes with true preaching. The forms of godliness we have today are confirmed to this world hence cannot attract persecution from the devil!
Those of you questioning Lungu’s christianity just advise HH that the Bible says obey those in Authority, you will be helping solve this problem.
But if you will ignore when HH disobeys authority but when police enforce law and order then you complain, you will be helping amplify the problem.
Romans 13:1-2 says:
“All if you must obey those who rule over you. There are no authorities except the ones God has chosen. Those who now rule have been chosen by God. So those who opposes the authorities opposes leaders whom God has appointed. Those who do that will be judged.”
Romans 13:4 says:
“The authorities are God’s servants for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of rath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer.”
So, God expects everyone to honour those in authority, and those in authority to punish wrongdoers.
So, show such scriptures to HH if he claims he is a Christian.
In fact it is the pride of refusing to recognize Lungu as president that gave birth to hiim refusing to give way to presidential motorcade.
But you know pride goes before the fall.
So, from the scriptures above the police are doing their job according to what the Bible expects them to do.
The police and authorities are God’s servants who are expected to do what they are doing.
And Lungu has no issue at this time. He has clearly indicated that at the stage things are he is not in any way empowered to do anything.
Unless the matter was at the stage where one is serving prison sentence, can Lungu come in to intervene by way of the prerogative of mercy, which power is vested in him at that stage.
Lungu is evil. This is the same person that never followed the constitution during the elections. You have no powers Lungu. You are illegitimate until proven otherwise. Same with Luo and Mwanakwate. Earn the respect Lungu and quit this business of promoting politics of fear. Uyopa chani?
He says ‘civil servants are there because of PF’. Silly man. We know leaders have their preferences in appointments, but the civil service is separate from the party. Don’t intimidate civil servants into towing your party lines. They don’t have to read the so-called PF manifesto.
Secondly, I don’t remember anyone asking Lungu to ‘pardon’ HH. For what crime? The more fundamental question to Mr Lungu is; ‘what is your involvement in HH’s arrest’? Kanganja would not have gone it alone to arrest and charge HH so frivolously. There have obviously been secret mid-night discussions. I for one think even the Mongu saga was stage managed.
We the Zambian voters will never pardon the PF for impoverishing Zambia.
Unfortunately, WE the majority Zambians who voted for ECL and PF and rejected hh five times know that only hard work will make this country great and keep poverty at a distance!! Come 2021 we shall DUNUNA with PF once more.
GOD OF HEAVEN NEVER FAILS IN ANYTHING !!!!!!!!!!! JUDGEMENT DAY IS COMING AND NO MATTER WHAT EVERYONE WILL ANSWER ACCORDING TO WHAT HE OR SHE DID.THIS TIME IT IS EASY BECAUSE WE CAN SHOW TO OUR FELLOW HUMAN BEINGS THAT WE HAVE OR WE DON’T HAVE POWERS BUT WHEN GOD’S JUDGEMENT DAY COMES IT WILL BE TOO LATE FOR US TO REVERSE LET US BE SINCERE TO WHAT WE ARE DOING FOR GOD IS WATCHING HIS PEOPLE
Forgive what?????? Lungu has the responsibility to intervene when his executive(police) grossly misbehave.
The officer who sanctioned this will be arrested eventually.
It is really sad that the upnd and its supporters have resorted to threatening and insulting the president himself and the PF!! Now these are the very people who will be soliciting for votes so their tribalist god hh can be in state house and they can begin persecuting the PF on flimsy charges Mwanawasa style-they even plan to re-open the post newspaper and reinstate the Nchitos into the judiciary!! HOW DO YOU EXPECT TO GET VOTES WHEN YOU INSULT THE VERY PERSON THE SEVEN OTHER PROVINCES ENDORSED??? THE VERY PERSON THEY APPROVE OF AND LOVE?? KNOWING THAT IF hh CAME TO POWER HE WOULD WANT TO DESTROY THEIR THEIR MAN?? You people are dull and I don’t see upnd or hh coming into power anytime soon as people UNDERSTAND these political matters and don’t just believe anything your failed…
Too bad for HH,honestly a man of his calibre knew that he was pouring treason acid on himself. When 2 powers fight in this kind of situation, the lesser power if it does not bow,it will and shall be crippled. Now where are the advisors,for HH knew the repacation of trying to disgrace his excellence no matter how he does not recognize him. The only way out of this is to belittle oneself and seek for forgiveness from ECL. Failure to this,test the boma in boma recipe. Remember lawyers are there to chew ones money but it costs no ngwee for a genuine and sincere apology. I have spoken my mind.
…politicians and supporters say. Your hate and insolence is just showing people in the PF strongholds that they made the right decision and that THE upnd government would have been VINDICTIVE and TRIBALIST and a lot of people would have been persecuted. In 2021 they will definitely NOT give you more votes but will actually regret even giving you the few votes you received!! The Mwanawasa anti-corruption persecutions are hated by a lot of people and they don’t want them to return-people want a free and independent judiciary that is in the interest of every Zambian.
Good morning NEZ, pass my regards when you visit this morning. Remember that this matter requires mature intelligent people to resolve, not donkeys like kalos.
UPNDonkeys, be careful what you vomit because it will be you to swallow it when the time comes. So far i hear that you have accumulted bucketfuls of the horrible stuff.
Comment: well the bottom statement is really a disappoint. that means tht people are ready to use the instruments of power for anything… Civil servants are not employed by a party, they are employed by all Zambians and the money they contribute through tax. We are heading for a hard time if political leaders are thinking tht the office of the president and the executive belong to a political party and should execute party manifesto… U are not ther to serve the interest of a political party, ur there to serve the interest of the whole Zambia. It is wrong for for some one to use instruments of power to deal with political enemies… the three arms of government were meant to protect and benefit o Zambian citizens regardless of political affiliation… Not to forward the interest of…
DUNDUMWEZI PROVINCE NEED TO BE WELL CHECKED COS THINGS ARE NOT OK FOR PF.THERE IS NEED FOR A DEEP REFLECTION AND POSTMORTEM.
Crucify HH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Has Lungu achieved anything tangible since he hijacked the Presidency and constitution?
Mr President you are been economical with the truth. We all remember how the former late President Chiluba MHSRIP release Dr Kaunda as an opposition after intervention of regional leaders before conviction. Though Dr Kaunda is quiet in this case, we know you have the power in this you love what is happening enjoy the drama.
Lungu is the most treacherous President Zambia has ever had. Secretly he issues orders to arrest opposition members and openly denies it claiming the constitution does not allow him the same constitution he has been rapping on several occasions when it suits him. You have to be an idio … to believe that Kanganja arrested HH without Lungu’s knowledge or authority. The President has the powers to stop any prosecution in the interest of the nation. KK did it on several occasions to reconcile and unite the nation. It’s this treachery that has divided the nation. If he respects the constitution so much why was Siliya appointed as minister when she has pending criminal court cases which have surprisingly stalled? Zambians should learn to think above party lines when serious actions are…
Threatening our peace. Dictators are created by their own people. You cannot have a father who refuses to dialogue with a son however truant the son may be. That’s what true leadership and humility are. Leadership is about people and not self ego.
Are HH’s supports afraid that hh will be convicted?
Why not let the law take its fill course, if you know he did nothing wrong.
If what hh did was perfectly fine, then don’t worry the man will come out clean. Why fear?
Any self respecting person that claims to be a Christian and publically goes to church cannot possibly believe such rubbish! If this Lungu thinks he is President, the FIRST THING he should be doing is opening and investigation into how the Police behaved in this case.Or does he think it is OK for the police to smash down gates, teargas women and children, defecate and urinate on a Citizen of Zambias bed, destroy his property and steal his money in the middle of the night? Is this how the “law” is now being applied in Zambia???
A decent, God fearing President would have IMMEDIATELY suspended the police officer in charge, pending a full investigation, and then kicked out of the police force if found wanting, with criminal charges against him to follow. Obviously Lungu is not Presiden…
You mean Lungu should be investigating how hh and his whole entourage refused to give way to the presidential motorcade????
So, how should the investigation go? Someone should go to hh and ask him saying, “man, how did you refuse to give way?”.
It is like chewing food and then swallowing it. But after swallowing, you set up a commission of inquiry to investigate how the swallowing took place after chewing.
Or, after you feel very hungry you are given food which you then eat. After getting full you set up investigations to establish how you got full.
Please, please some things are straight forward,. HH simply refused to give way.
We all know that he blundered andiscunducted himself against the law. That is why even you his supporters, are unease.
Those are tantrums coming from someone who hardly knows whether he is coming or going. Demonstrate to the people of Zambia that you really stand by the laws of the land, the constitution and people will respect you. Earn your respect and don’t demand. Right now sound like a joke that ain’t funny. Someday you will cry and the people with you today will be key witnesses to exonerate themselves. Cracks are showing already and not everyone is with you on this in your tramped up administration. The recordings between your press secretary and the police top brass should send shivers down your spine. Wise up lungu!
Your failure to respect authority is giving you all kinds of ideas including refusing to give way to the president, ati kabili we do not recognise him, ooh!