Respected law professor Muna Ndulo has charged that Zambia under the PF government is degenerating into a police state.
He highlighted the recent death of a ZAF officer and the arrest of UPND leader Hakainde Hichilema as some of the recent events that point to a complete breakdown of the rule of law.
In a statement, Professor Ndulo who is Director Berger International Studies Program at Cornell Law School and Director, Cornell Institute for African Development said the Public Order Act is abused by the police and has become an instrument of oppression rather than policing.
He said, “If one had any doubts about Zambia’s slide into a police state, two recent events clearly debunk the doubt. A few weeks ago, Mark Nchimunya Choonga, was brutally killed in police custody. To begin with, the late Choongwa should never have been in police custody. How does one end up in police custody after a minor traffic accident? There has been no public condemnation of the police on this matter by the leadership and no one has been punished for the illegal detention of Choongwa.”
“Yesterday, the second event gave evidence of the degenerative slide towards a police state. Heavily armed police attacked Hakainde Hichilema and his family in their home. Before the attack, in an unprecedented act of thuggery, police switched off the electricity to the area where Hakainde’s house is located and plunged the area into total darkness,” he said.
Below is Prof Ndulo’s full statement
POLICE BRUTALITY AND THE DECAY OF THE ZAMBIAN POLICE FORCE
Muna Ndulo (Professor, and Director Berger International Studies Program Cornell Law School and Director, Cornell Institute for African Development)
The Zambia is rapidly degenerating into a police state. Numerous citizens are detained in police stations without regard to their rights under the constitution. This has become commonplace as regular reports of beatings, torture and deaths in police custody seldom seem to elicit outrage. Zambians are becoming immune to the routine reports of police brutality. The Public Order Act is abused by the police and has become an instrument of oppression rather than policing.
The police arrogantly assert that only their interpretation of the act is valid. The constant show of and use of excessive force by the police is intended to create a climate of fear and obedience in the general population. Benefactors of the system align themselves with these instruments of fear and defend the police and show scant concern for the victims of police brutality and those whose rights are trampled upon by the police.
If one had any doubts about Zambia’s slide into a police state, two recent events clearly debunk the doubt. A few weeks ago, Mark Nchimunya Choonga, was brutally killed in police custody.
To begin with, the late Choongwa should never have been in police custody. How does one end up in police custody after a minor traffic accident? There has been no public condemnation of the police on this matter by the leadership and no one has been punished for the illegal detention of Choongwa.
Unashamedly, the police have been allowed to carry out what is clearly a cover up. Yesterday, the second event gave evidence of the degenerative slide towards a police state. Heavily armed police attacked Hakainde Hichilema and his family in their home. Before the attack, in an unprecedented act of thuggery, police switched off the electricity to the area where Hakainde’s house is located and plunged the area into total darkness. The police tear gassed and vandalized the house, broke doors and windows, stole whatever they could steal and caused a huge amount of damage to property in the house.
They assaulted whomever they came across in the compound and detained all of Mr. Hichilema’s workers. They did all this without a warrant and in complete disregard of the constitutionally protected rights of liberty and protection of property of a Zambian citizen.
In a shocking decision, after the end of the siege, the police announced treason charges against Hakainde.
Having served as Advisor to the UN in the South African transition period from 1992 to 1994, the behavior of the Zambia police brings to mind the illegal brute force used by the apartheid police to brutalize and pillage black communities in apartheid South Africa in the run up to the 1994 elections.
In the face of this shameful police brutality and serious violations of human rights to life and physical security, the Zambian government has remained mute and at times cheered the police on and made alarming statements about the need to fix Hichilema and his supporters.
Even more troubling is that this is happening at a time when the government is led by a lawyer who should be well acquainted with the rule of law and the concept of constitutionalism.
Zambia finds itself now in a situation where the police force, which should be the upholders of the law, are now agents of fear and intimidation. The primary purpose of the security forces has become to protect the ruling party, and the personal power of the president.
Policing skills in investigation, crowd control, protective and preventive action, have been sacrificed in response to the demands of political obedience, extortion and brutality. The rights of people holding contrary views to those of the ruling party are not respected.
The decay of law and order under the present Government has been matched by a sharp deterioration in the behavior of the police force, which perpetuates the decline.
The political role comes with demands by politicians and the influential to carry out visible crackdowns or arrest specific people. In a context where “quick” and politically defined results are expected and where corruption, obedience, and opportunism are entrenched in the security forces, the torture and humiliation of suspects has become a culture.
The Government is legally responsible for the death of Mark Nchimunya Choongwa and for the violation of Mr. Hachilema’s rights and damage to his property by state agents.
The police is not above the constitution and is not a law at to itself. Not in any state that claims to be a democracy.
The police must respect the rights of individuals as guaranteed by the constitution. All arms of state be it parliament or the executive must act within the terms of their legal authority.
The doctrine of legality is a constitutional requirement under which all institutions of the state including the police are regarded as having only those powers conferred on them by the constitution. The constitution is a charter of government and governs all state conduct.
It is a body of fundamental principles by which a society organizes a government for itself, defines and limits the powers of the government, and regulates the relations between several government organs inter se and defines the relations of the state with its citizens.
The aim of the rule of law is to limit and check the arbitrary, oppressive, and despotic tendencies of power, and to ensure the equal treatment and protection of all citizens irrespective of race, tribe, class, status, religion, place of origin, or political persuasion. It implies a legal framework that is fair, impartial, and that legitimizes state actions.
The idea of a constitutional democratic government, or constitutionalism, and the rule of law connote a government defined, regulated and limited by a constitution. Constitutional democracy is founded upon the notion of checks and balances, namely state institutions: the legislature, the judiciary, and the executive-while operating independently of one another, act to check each other’s operations and balance each other’s power.
In essence, all three institutions are duty bound to uphold the rule of law. A government operating under a written constitution has no more power than is granted to it by the constitution. Zambia cannot be allowed to descend into a nation of illegal actions by one arm of government while the rest remain silent and complicit.
Aggression by any part of government must be condemned by all, the government, the citizens, and those residing within our borders. This is the only way we can begin to restore Zambia.
As Aristotle so aptly put it “Tolerance and apathy are the last virtues of a dying society.”
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To bad. The police need to apply the law equally. All law breakers like what HH did in mongu must be answerable. Breaking anyone’s home is not acceptable at all. Again HHs wife testified in her video posted that husband did not come out of the house until police forced they’re way inside the house. If he had come out and meet the police and asked them the reason for they’re visit at that ungodly hour, no property could have been damaged. But his wife narrated how she stop him from going outside to meet the police and off course the police had to find they’re way in to bring out the law breaker.
My learned colleague Ndulo, its not time for more of these idealistic statements but realism. Hichilema is facing treason charges and fast melting down in Incarceration a fact you cannot run away from. Such idealistic postures and their hollow messages may may only deliver a Mwaimwene. Where are the wise senior people in your party to start some behind the scene negotiations? Zambia has a Government and Chagwa is undeniably the President of Zambia. Insults, name calling, hate crusades and use of proven mercenaries like Greg Mills as crusaders in the International arena are not going to redeem the situation. Start engaging the principals while the justice system takes its course. Unless the game plan is to sacrifice HH, you have a crisis at hand.
This tribalist guy crawled from under the rock. HH broke the law period. His actions were promoting anarchy. That cant go unpunished. Throwing around words like ‘police state’ wont change the facts. In a police state people don’t freely move about as is the case in Zambia. That is cheap tribilism so called professor. And why cant you just make comment without refering to your self as a professor?
What? That’s obviously more smelly sh!t than mine from the professor. Our police are protecting a weak president who can’t control by himself. What do expect. Piss in my crap hole am pretty. Shut up. Thanks
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Where were you when your HH was having delusions of grandeur? The guy thought his votes where stolen and he was the rightful president of Zambia. ECL did his best to ignore the unrepentant schizophrenic to no avail. Well since your HH does not recognize any authority in Zambia, I guess he can take his cra.zy a$$ out of prison!
Proff do not politicise the death of Sgt Choongwa (MHSRIEP), you are old enough to recall many similar cases where detained defence personnel have died in civilian police custody – do you recall the Mumbwa and Livingstone incidents in the late 90s where ZAF NCOs died in custody? That was before PF. There have been several incidents in Ndola, Kabwe where civi cops have done the same thing often resulting in a retaliation from the respective defence branch. Do not ignite the fire with such alarmist comments, you are the same ones abroad that will not suffer should the nation fall into chaos! During Chiluba (HH’s former Zamtrop boss) how many political deaths occurred (Wezi, Paul Tembo, Penza, Nkumbula etc) ? Under PF not even one! Be fair stop lying!
I even wonder what took this tribalist long to comment. Finally he has spoken, I am glad.
Facebook name Jabulile Chileya or @Numbian Princess, do you really know what jumping to conclusion really like?
At an opportune time, Lungu will be tried on 3 counts of treason. 1. Disclosing Cabinet proceedings to Newton Ng’uni when Lungu was fighting Guy Scott for Acting President position. This is a matter of public (Court) record. As Lungu committed this crime before he became President, his presidential immunity does not apply. 2. Lungu made his Cabinet Minister continue as ministers after Parliament was dissolved in May 2016. His own ConCourt said that it was illegal. 3. Lungu refused to hand over power to the Speaker when the election petition was lodged at the ConCourt. It does not matter how long it takes, Lungu will have to account to the Zambian people for his criminality.
BA PROFESSOR, PLEASE. WITH DUE RESPECT TO YOU JUST SHUT YOUR MOUTH. SO, IN HEAD YOU WOULD HAVE LOVE ECL TO DIE WORSE STILL YOU WOULD HAVE LOVE ZAMBIA TO DEGENERATE INTO ANOTHER DR CONGO. I SAY THIS BECAUSE THIS IS WHERE HH WAS DRIVING HIS TRIBAL UPND TO. HH SIMPLY BECAME A, “TUFILILE MUNSENGA”, KIND OF ATTITUDE. LIKE MANY OTHERS YOU DON’T LIVE IN ZAMBIA AND WE MAY NOT EVEN KNOW WHEN YOU LAST CAME TO ZAMBIA. IF WAR BREAKS OUT IN ZAMBIA YOU WILL DEFINITELY NOT BE AFFECTED. WITH RESPECT YOU ARE JUST A HUMAN BEING- BEING A PROFESSOR DOESN’T MEAN YOU BECOME SUPER HUMAN AND EVERYTHING YOU SAY IS TRUE. NO.
Are they not the same police officers you paraded that they were behind UPND during last elections? You must be a dull professor with a very short memory. ECL is our president for now and he deserves respect from everybody Tongas and professors inclusive.
This UPND professor should shut up. Where was he when HH continously said he did not recognise the sitting president. He is lucky he is doing this under PF. In UNIP or MMD days he would have been history by now. Let us learn to give credit where it is due. You are embarrassing the title of Professor.
If HH was humble he would have been present by now. But who wants a president whose main aim is to win and punish his perceived political and tribal enemies?
You are the people that advised hh NOT to recoginse ecl. And he believed you and became a loose cannon
Just come and give him free legal service and you really know the law
Hh use to say : am ready to go to jail. Am ready to die.
3days in police cells he is already mssing chibwantu.
Let Obasanjo negotiate his release But he must first recognised ecl as president elect
You are the people that advised hh NOT to recoginse ecl. And he believed you and became a loose cannon
Just come and give him free legal service and you really know the law
Hh use to say : am ready to go to jail. Am ready to die.
3days in police cells he is already mssing chibwantu.
Let Obasanjo negotiate his release But he must first recognised ecl as president elect
Prof Ndulo, it’s time you checked yourself & what you stand for. To you new Constitution was worst that happened to Zambia; bill of rights under 2016 referendum was bad for Zambia; introduction of multi party politics in Zambia is not progress; growth of Zambian economy from USD5b to USD35b means nothing; Postnewspaper does not owe any tax; UPND President did not commit crime in Mongu etc. Can you see how negative, subjective & bitter you’ve become? Be objective & then your opinion will be respected. Take time to appreciate God is in control of Zambia. We’ve come a long way & God is still blessing us. It’s time to be united as a nation. Stop being negative & divisive.
Until you are next to be arrested, that’s when some of you, like Jabulile Chileya (Nubian Princess) will know that we have a dictatorial government. And Chileya, having gone to Lechwe, you are expected to hold certain values. Anyway, the school cannot change character
ALL INFORMED PERSONS KNOW THAT AS SOON AS NDULO OPENED HIS TRIBALISTIC MOUTH HE WOULD CONDEMN GOVERNMENT. BUT SAY NOTHING ABOUT hh WHO HAS BEEN INCITING HIS FOLLOWERS TO RISE AGAINST ECL AND ALL AUTHORITY WHOM HE HAS CALLED ALL SORTS OF NAMES.
FAKE PRESIDENT HAKAINDE PROMISED HIS SPONSORS A LOT THAT HE CAN’T NOW DELIVER AND HENCE HIS RECKLESS ACTIONS THAT HAVE LANDED HIM BEHIND BARS. WE FORETOLD THAT hh WILL NEVER RULE ZAMBIA AND NOW IT IS FULFILLED: CHECK MATE
Ndulo is very artistic about theory.
The problem is that with theory all you need to do is make logical argument with it without facts.
In theory you are at liberty to assume and then use the assumptions to argue and finally draw conclusions.
Theorists, in the field of science, are not looking for truth and facts but logical flow of ideas regardless of whether they emanate from facts or assumptions.
Ndulo must humble his ideas from up there in the skies of assumptions down to the realm of truth and facts.
The questions Ndulo must ask are:
1) why is hh arrested?
2) why was he charged with treason?
3) why at this particular time and not before this time?
WHEN THE THE SO CALLED LEARNED BEGIN TO MAKE ALLEGATIONS IN THEIR THESIS LIKE COMMENTARY, WE SHOULD BEGIN TO WORRY.
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THEORIES, THEORIES THEORIES
I am sad to infer that the Prof. does not fully understand a thing about what he is talking about. The problem in Zambia is that, the so called learned seem to act like the most dullest and dumb individuals. People die in prison most of the time. Police sometimes may not have control about what goes on in bully parked prisons. Politicians including KK, Mugabe, Sata, Miyanda, Christon Tembo, Dean Mung’omba, Kapwepwe to name but a few, have hit the penitentiary for one cause or the other. Stop making a fuss out of nothing. You are hereby blamed for ill-advising HH. What a dumb surrogate. Do you even…
Do you even understand what the rule of law means?
The only person lacking wisdom, is you.
A thesis about the proper procedure of protesting against the ruling power could also be of great help professor, “How Not to Behave when you don’t Recognise the Sitting President”
Bembas and easterners can celebrate now but their time is coming. Shonas celebrated when Mugabe and his 5th Brigade killed tens of thousands of Ndebeles during the Gukurahundi of the early 1980s. After that Mugabe turned on the Shonas. Now they are selling biscuits on the streets of Lusaka and waiting in restaurants all over the world. They have been equalised by their own tribal monster.
To bad. The police need to apply the law equally. All law breakers like what HH did in mongu must be answerable. Breaking anyone’s home is not acceptable at all. Again HHs wife testified in her video posted that husband did not come out of the house until police forced they’re way inside the house. If he had come out and meet the police and asked them the reason for they’re visit at that ungodly hour, no property could have been damaged. But his wife narrated how she stop him from going outside to meet the police and off course the police had to find they’re way in to bring out the law breaker.
The police can break into someone’s house without a warrant.
It’s either you are ignorant of the law or immune to state sponsored barbarism. Sad really.
Musondakareuke your logic is flawed. Your statements are to justify your political persuasion.
Nubian (Sudanese) Princess. With your self grandiosment the word you should have printed is LACK.
Why is a sudanese princess commenting on zambian politics. Surely you would have been able to solve the problems in your own country first
Zambia is going the same way as Sudan.
Greedy corrupt leaders that use tribalism to get elected. Then start harassing the media and the opposition when the expose the thefts and corruption being committed.
Wake up Zambians. These greedy “leaders” are destroying our country. Soon we have famine and starvation here too, even while we have rich resources.
@ Masalamuso…..Nubian Princes went to Lechwe Trust School in Kitwe, and her real name is Bwalya Jabulile Chileya, got that? Hit face book and search that, you will yield a Bemba woman who loves purple. Dont ask me how I know…Just go IT
Why is the elder statesman of zambian polifics so silent. Surely he would want to see his beloved zambia for which he fought for freedom would be urging for peace and freedom in zambia today.
He can still talk can he.
Here we are dealing with criminal offenses. There is no denial that HH”s action in Mongu was stupid and criminal. This fact must be accepted by UNPD; including your tribal professor. Behind the scene negotiations will help HH. But arrogance will surely make HH face the law and he should be ready to show why he cannot serve at least 15 years in prison. HH is a villager who is surrounded by kinsmen.
Zambia is fast degenerating into Zimbabwe and Uganda version 2.0
Nuff said.
They are trying to. Everything will soon be brought to a halt.
God is in control.
Where were these people when hh was telling his supporters ECL is illegitimate?? When hh was telling his mps to abandon parliament during presidential SONA?? When he was blocking eagle one during kuomboka and rejoicing when his supporters toasted that behavior?? When hh was deceiving his supporters the petition must and will be heard and Donald Trump is on standby to sort out the mess in Zambia?? Prof. Ndulo: You should have been their to advise hh to desist from unlawful behavior first, not blame the government for doing their job!!
It’s the coming of the government of Idi Amini. I can not shake feeling that the people being killed in the politics of Zambia are actually turning up as meat for dinner at State House. Why HH cannot access his lawyers or be seen by his family in jail? He could already be in the Fridge awaiting rat spices from Eastern Province and dinner time. Beware of the PF ineptocratic bandit state of Edgar Lungu…have you ever seen a leader so calm and unconcerned with so many unexplained killings? He is dinning on these killed humans . The President of Zambia is Carnabalist. We are calling for an international inspection of tunnels and Fridges at State House. We can not have a government eating us for meals!
Ask Miyanda, nkunika, Mumba and other former treason detainees on state treatment.
The audio recording between the IG and Amos Chanda is really very sad and a confirmation of what Prof is writing about. How can State House be directly issuing instructions of how HH should be kept in jail while at the same time ba Lungu is refusing. Edgar should know that the audio recording directly links him to gross violation of human rights and therefore an eligible candidate for the ICC. And the recording reveals that the international community is getting prepared to pressure the PF Government because the audio leak has the hallmark of the CIA. The President can no longer pretend to be clueless about atrocities being committed by his Government when his aides and cadres are being recorded carelessly celebrating such lawless behaviour.
Lungu is famous for always saying the opposite of whatever he is doing. Believe him at your own peril.
Professor Muna Ndulo, I hope you will read this. You seem to be subjective in your recent commentaries, because either, you are out of touch with the real vibes in your motherland or you have an inherent tribal bias. Hakainde Hichilema you seem to defend wholesomely, I see you have not condemned him for any of his bad behaviour in many occasions that do not befit a leader. Sir, HH is riotous, arrogant, spoilt, proud, a know-it-all and can’t take advice from anyone including yourself. Zambia is stuck with hopeless options. If HH and GBM won were ruling you could have witnessed the worst dictators and smart corruption, they worship money and power, these fellows. Didn’t you follow the corruptions of GBM when he was defence minister or HH’s lack of patriotism during privatisation when…
You are such an empty head my dear Sydney Mundia. Subjective or not subjective is not the issue here. Carnabalism is! What has all this crap you want the good professor to read got to do with the police brutality, the murderous police regeme under Idi Amini Lungu? The Commander In Chief has a duty to keep the peace by protecting all citizens. We can not have a government killing and eating it’s citizens. That is not government we have to protect ourselves and our families against them!
He is HH’s surrogate, what do expect. His love for HH is beginning to becloud his academic attainments.
As much as Iam against the imprisonment of Homo-Habilis (HH) Karma is coming back to haunt Human Hyena (HH)or its role in the privatisation of the ZCCM and other state assets that were dubiously sold for close to nothing and made over night millionaires of the crooked middle men such as this low life Hungry Hyena (HH) cretin, other crooks that took part in this are the likes of Valentine Chitalu, Francis Kaunda..may their souls be eternally cursed for the suffering they caused to many families across Zambia!
Prof please spare us from your tribal analysis. We can’t continue with this arrogant behaviour from your under 5 party and HH.
Facts are facts. There is no tribal analysis here. Ours is a Carnabalist government brutalizing and eating Citizens. We are have to protect ourselves and our families against this evil enterprise. Why do you people celebrate violence? You vampires your days are numbered and you will not hide in the usual boring tribal talk after you kill and eat people.
@senior citizen What prof is talking about is the acts of police and using examples of ZAF officer and HH. Dont change his subject. That’s the reason people fail. Read his article and see the thrust of his subject.
Say what you want, however you say it, to me honestly, there is no case for HH. If there is any treason case, then the police should be charged as well – the IG should be locked.
Can someone explain why Police did not clear the way before ECL was about to use the road? A standard security measure which is done every time the president is going, for example, from the state house to the airport.
And all you pipo referring to Prof as tribal comments are not displaying a bias to suit thoughts.
Repression eventually overtakes the repressor
Professor Ndulo, don’t spread your negative energy here. You want someone that is issuing inflammatory statements to roam around freely!? Go to Venuzuela and you will know what a police state is. People have been issuing statements likely to cause breach of peace and you call that freedom of speech! No! Authority must be respected. One can’t go around doing things with impunity!
THE PF CADRES ARE SAYING UTTER RUBBISH WHEN THE PROFESSOR TELLS THEM THE TRUTH. GO AND FU.CK YOUR MONKEYS
Ndulo is right but ndulo should know that if that’s the case, there is nothing wrong.
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oh, HH!!!!!!!!!! you are indeed a bla,t that wishes good for itself at all, now we no how you got rich eh, this time i wish you a hard prison detention than ever with all of your party members. you are going strait to hel!l this time you mo,ron. kolokonbwa!!!!
What’s wrong with you ?
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Is it by coincidence that both Choolwa & HH are Tonga while most Nyanja and Bembas are in the forefront of cheereding the police on and made alarming statements about the need to fix Hichilema and his supporters? This country is doomed to split right in the middle.
In PF’s zambia you get killed for a fender-bender accident & you get treason for a traffic offence.
You won’t get away with incarcerating HH using you primitive police & corrupt rotten judiciary.
It’s WAR you’ve asked for & BLOODSHED you’ll receive.
STUP1D ID1OTS.
Try the same stupidity with authorities of your refugee state.
@Sydney Mundia, there is no need hiding your identity, no Lozi well worthy of their soul would say stuff like that when one of their very own is subject to such tribulations. You are surely either Mumba or Mulenga, not Mundia.
Which security would put the president at lisk to an opposition. Just the word it self can tell you not to take the president to his opposition they will oppose him. Which security would drive the president on same road with the opposition or Boko Haram. Thank God we have a good opposition like upnd and not Boko Haram. Pf in politics expect opposition. Why do you want the opposition to support you and call you Mr president they have their president. Just say we don’t want opposition and remove all political parties. Security can stop the president from going to a danger zone or appointment or if not make a safe alternative and can make a U-turn if the way is not safe. They didn’t? make a U-turn because it was safe to do so. We all know that it was a trap or a set up. Don’t? consider…
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The same Lungu cancelled his trip to Egypt for “security” reasons? But now it is a different story???
This is a SHAM. A complete set up. Police brutality and harassment by a politicized corrupt Police force to intimidate and suppress the opposition.
These PF cardres were talking about charging HH with treason LONG BEFORE WHAT HAPPENED IN MONGU!
God will punish all evil doer’s let them celebrate but they shouldn’t forget that God sees how his people ar suffering. Lungu is a wicked president, the bible says those who live by guns shall die by guns e.g gadafi,sabimbi,etc so waight your death is coming soon.
oh, HH!!!!!!!!!! you are indeed a bla,t that wishes good for itself at all, now we no how you got rich eh, this time i wish you a hard prison detention than ever with all of your party members. you are going strait to hel!l this time you mo,ron. kolokonbwa!!!!
From a beacon of democracy and a model of democracy in Africa to a police state with an illegal president and poor human rights record. Zambia is now known for all the wrong reasons and yet when you read pf comments here they seem to be OK with this. Ignorance really is expensive. This is why happens when a dull vision less rat takes over through illegal means and needs to show that he in control. Little penls syndrome I call it. I doubt any of those children are his.
Prof Muna Ndulo is spot on. When u see 500 Policemen some wearing masks and heavily armed and breaking the gates,doors,windows of HH’s Family Home,beating and teargasing the Occupants,ransacking and stealing property,money,food etc. Then u know there is no longer Rule of Law in Zambia. What the Police did at HH’s Home should Never be condoned becoz it can happen to all of us after being involved in a mere Traffic Offence. Such State and Police Sponsored Brutality is the hallmark of a failed Police State. Under the Criminal and Illegitimate Lungu govt Zambia is going to the dogs. This criminal behavior from Lungu,Kaizer Zulu,Amos Chanda, Kanganja, Kampyongo etc must be stopped. The illegitimate Lungu Regime is committing crimes against humanity and should be indicted to ICC. That…
WE DONT HAVE ANOTHER COUNTRY TO RUN TO IF WE WERE THE BEACON OF PEACE WHERE ALL THOSE WHO RAN AWAY FROM OTHER COUNTRIES WERE TAKEN CARE OF!!!
MUNA NDULO YOU ARE RIGHT. IT IS LIKE THE PUBLIC ORDER ACT USED BY POLICE HAS MORE POWERS THAN OUR LEGITIMATE RULE OF LAW USED IN COURTS.
I HAVE NEVER SEEN THE WIN OF THE ACT OF THE ORDER BY POLICE USING THE SO CALLED PUBLIC ORDER ACT WINING IN THE COURTS. WHICH MEANS A WAY OF THE PRESIDENT TO HARASS ITS OWN CITIZENS.
YOU WOULD WONDER THIS PF LEADERSHIP HOW FOOLISH IT IS INSTEAD OF ASKING PEOPLE WHETHER TO REMOVE THIS BRUTAL PUBLIC ORDER ACT WHICH HAS NO MERCIES BUT THEY ARE RUSHING TO MOVE OUT OF ICC WHICH GIVES PROTECTION OF THE PEOPLE OF ITS CITIZENS.
THIS IS DULL AND INHUMAN THINKING. ONE DAY WE SHALL RISE UP AND THESE PEOPLE SHALL HAVE NO…
YOU WOULD WONDER THIS PF LEADERSHIP HOW FOOLISH IT IS INSTEAD OF ASKING PEOPLE WHETHER TO REMOVE THIS BRUTAL PUBLIC ORDER ACT WHICH HAS NO MERCIES BUT THEY ARE RUSHING TO MOVE OUT OF ICC WHICH GIVES PROTECTION OF THE PEOPLE OF ITS CITIZENS.
THIS IS DULL AND INHUMAN THINKING.
ONE DAY WE SHALL RISE UP AND THESE PEOPLE SHALL HAVE NO PLACE TO GO AND WHAT LUNGU MUST KNOW THAT THE ASSASINS ARE NOT GENERALS WHO SURROUND HIM BUT PRIVATES. EVEN IN POLICE FORCE IS NOT EVERYONE IS HAPPY WITH WHAT IS HAPPENING. I TRUST ALL THE POLICE WHO ARE USED ARE FROM NORTHERN REGION ONLY.
I have always said it, our friends from the south have a genetic malfunctions when it comes to generally acceptable behavioral norms. This is due to how spend more time workong with animals than properly educating their children in good manners. No matter how educated or how wealthy, this problem is very clearly seen. I am not surprised by what Ndulo is saying.
It is all anguish from the upnd camp! Just hold on to your tears bane, time has not yet come for those tears! Ku Lubemba tusosa ati “Umwaiche ekalisha lilya anyaa”
Ndulo under mwanawasa Mr Sata was jailed twice. I don’t remember you or your bantubotatwe saying the rubbish you are saying. Infact ndulo was on mwanawasa side.
Not into a police state but into a Pf state! The IG and Amos chanda leaked recording says it all !
Respected professor? Well, maybe in his class where he can’t utter r.ubbish for fear of losing his pay. To us non donkeys in Zambia, he is a b.loody tribalist which education has failed to remove.
Now let me force myself to read his thesis or is it fae.ces?
Zambia is not under any police state.what is amazing is “why is that only bantubotatwe”, are crying over the arrest of HH?so for them Zambia would only be a democratic state when no bantustan criminal is arrested or jailed?what kind of thinking is this?i now see why HH has been upnd president for more than 10 years minus subjecting him to any convention!!for them TRIBE OVERIDE everything!!this is dangerous thinking.SO IF HH WON AND RULED FOR 10 YRS,ALL THESE BANTUSTANS WOULD BACK HIM TO GO FOR A 3RD,4TH,5TH TERMS,ETC!!HEY ZAMBIANS OPEN YOUR EYES!!THESE PEOPLE ARE UP TO NO GOOD!!just look at all those 5 workers of HH-all tonga!!IS THIS A MAN WE CAN VOTE FOR AND HOPE ZAMBIA TO REMAIN UNITED?NEVER!!expect more tribal experts like Prof.Ndulo across the global to support HH because tribalism…
Expect more tribal experts like Prof Ndulo across the global to support HH because to them tribalism is inborn.HH has been daring the Govnt ever since he lost 2016 elections.in mongu HH commited a very serious offence.but since he is tonga,Prof Ndulo has ignored all those offences and only condemned Govnt.is that fair?TRIBAL HH HAS DIVIDED ZAMBIA BADLY!!!SO NOW THAT HE IS CHARGED WITH TREASON, ITS HIGH TIME THE JUDICIARY REMOVED HIM FROM OUR LOCAL POLITICS BY CONVICTING HIM FOR ZAMBIA TO UNITE AGAIN BECAUSE MAYBE UPND WILL HAVE A NONE TONGA PARTY PRESIDENT !! BUT IF THEY REPLACE HH WITH ANOTHER TONGA,THAT WILL MARK THE END OF UPND!!!
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This Ndulo chap is a well established tribalist UPND cadre, always pretending to pontificate about democracy. He has must be ignored with the disdain he merits.
“professor”, everything that you have said is gibberish typical of a tribal Zambian donkey, except just the very latest sentence your quotation of the great philosopher Aristotle:
“Tolerance and apathy are the last virtues of a dying society”.
In this situation the correct interpretation is that HH went too far and was tolerated too much for the good of the country. Why on earth so called “professors” like you and HH’s cultural leaders the Chiefs did not sit down this underfive donkey crying senselessly and uncontrollably for losing a democratic election beats me. What kind of sadist are you who will let your “educated” child prepare a deep treason for himself and start mourning only when he succeeds in drops in it?
Only donkeys do that, the rest of us guide our children and…
“professor”, everything that you have said is tri.bal gibberish, except just the very latest sentence your quotation of the great philosopher Aristotle:
“Tolerance and apathy are the last virtues of a dying society”.
In this situation the correct interpretation is that someone went too far and was tolerated too much for the good of the country. Why on earth so called “professors” and cultural leaders the Chiefs did not sit down this underfive crying senselessly and uncontrollably for losing a democratic election beats me. What kind of sa.dis.ts are you who will let your “educated” child prepare a deep trea.son hole for himself and start mourning only when he succeeds and drops in it?
the rest of us guide our children and help them to become responsible adults. This underfive…
“professor”, everything that you have said is tri.bal gibberish, except just the very latest sentence your quotation of the great philosopher Aristotle:
“Tolerance and apathy are the last virtues of a dying society”.
In this situation the correct interpretation is that someone went too far and was tolerated too much for the good of the country. Why on earth so called “professors” and cultural leaders the Chiefs did not sit down this underfive crying senselessly and uncontrollably for losing a democratic election beats me. What kind of sa.dis.ts are you who will let your “educated” child prepare a deep trea.son hole for himself and start mourning only when he succeeds and drops in it?
the rest of us guide our children and help them to become responsible adults. This underfive…
If that’s what it has to be, then let it be.
This underfive is simply a badly raised and spoilt brat, no manners no culture. Let him learn some manners in those cells, when he comes out he will be much wiser and more respectful to the wishes and rights of other citizens.
“Prof”, do you want to join him at Lilayi or Chimbokaila? Clearly you could benefit from some of the lessons that have been prepared for our under five “politician”.
I think most of us acknowledge that both what HH and his entourage did was wrong and the excessive force used to arrest him was equally wrong. He could have been summoned and then arrested instead of traumatising his family. And the fact that Tayali has been arrested, charged with libel and detained seems to speak to what Prof Ndulo is saying- the country is slowly descending into a Police State.
The tragedy of these professors is that their thinking faculties are prisoners of their tribal bias.
Imagine an English professor condemning everything scottish, cannot happen yes but from our “professors” it’s the norm, particularly this one and the other whom we are yet to hear from.
He is a learned tribalist, a theorist. Extremely dul.l professor. His analyses are always tribal connoted.
@43 my Zambia, from now on the law shall take its course on anyone including you or Tayali. We have learnt our lessons from giving too latitude to goons to abuse the law and the rights of other citizens. So be it if HH is to languish behind bars.
Wait until it visits you. Perhaps you will understand then.
Ndulo you are not a true professor. I seriously doubt your credentials?
You are a disgraced professor with a questionable grade twelve results
Prevention is better than cure. Everybody else who breaks the law goes behind bars, why would this underfive be an exception? Do we have a law for underfive and another for all those who have committed various crimes before him and were locked up?
As soon as Sata, & his P.F,Stormtroopers, with Idi Amin traits came to power, ZAMBIA WAS DOOMED!!
This behaviour started with Police brutalizing a citizen @ Kafue roundabout, who they accused of not moving out of Sata’s way, days after Dictator Sata was elected to office.
1.What outcome do Zambians expect, when a Terr0r1st like (Chimp)yongo is heading Home affairs?
2.What do we expect when VIOLENT Kaizer advises a Drunken visionless Chagwa?
3. Police is infiltrated by Terr0r1st P.F, Cadres, & one can see them @ H.H’s house wearing face masks. Any wonder?
4.Police State indeed Zambia is, where P.F Cadres can gather in their Hundreds weapons in hand @ Evil Mumbi Phiri’s home, & L.A.Z, Kasonde’s office without a permit, but 6 U.P.N.D members are arrested for non violent gathering…
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& despite the U.P.N.D supporters Not carrying weapons (Pangas & Hammers) they are teargased, or even Shot dead like a certain Mapenzi, not mentioning Women stripped naked by uncivilized P.F. troopers. KANGANJA BEWARE, a Docket will be opened, as soon as you Drunken protector is no more.
5. I’m led to believe, corrupt P.F Amos Chanda’s call to Kanganja has been intercepted, with incriminating evidence, all pointing to political interference from the Drunken top!!
Rather than the visionless corrupt P.F Government using resources to alleviate poverty, disease, ignorance, all problems rife in Zambia today, they are spending colossal amounts of financial resource suppressing, & brutalizing those with opposing views, or ones that try to stand in the way, & expose their…
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thier Blatant corrupt acts.
I could go on & on, but with all the above examples, I will now close & conclude without doubt that, ZAMBIA IS INDEED A VIOLENT POLICE STATE!!
@5 Masalamuso, sadly, the creation of hh as leader of UPND and the behaviour of this underfive reminds the elder statesman of the sad day when he was forced to unite this country by declaring one party state. We are back to exactly that situation which was created exactly by the same Cowtherners, the people who see other citizens only as monkeys and rat eaters.
Professor were you ever taught how to summarize we are now waiting for your fellow tribalism hansungule from SA to send what is meant to appear intellectual but will be a hollow sound designed to disguise the tribal sentiments. As a prof one would expect wisdom from you but since you have only authored 2 books one as a co-collector we are not surprised just enjoy your wine in that borrowed land you treasurer
Dr. Neo Simutanyi it nailed wrongly prior to the August polls. These folks are poor at analysing, let alone, digesting real issues. They continuously put their academic prowess under the serious jeopardy of doubt. They are incredibly unbelievable and lamentably driven by a chilling effect of bias.
That’s why Zambia never develops, because researchers including scholarly doctors and professors have bogus and misinformed research findings starting from the choosing of samples, collecting of data, coding, analysing, interpreting and concluding. Their recommendations are based on emotional and subjective inferences. They engage in priesthood bias.
this guy doesnt qualify to be called prof if this is how he think and reason, he is behaving exactly like the uneducated upnd cadre called NEZ, what is wrong must be wrong regardless of the person/s involved ATASE PROF WA MAFIFYE
There is no need for personal attacks against a distinguish professor. Professors by definition defend the truth, and not personalities. First, it is a welcome development if professors can join in public debate on matters of national, regional, continental or global interest. Or are you suggesting that professors must ignore public outcry? The issue here is whether an arrest was conducted properly judging by due process of law. Remember that police families and legal families can differentiate when police is preforming duty and when police is overzealous or inspired. Second, the issue of correct charges vis a vis the alleged offense can not be brushed aside. Members of the public are looking at a serious traffic offence more than the personalities involved. It is not too late to focus on…
Since when
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It is not too late to focus on fundamentals of the case at hand. Political icons are not above the law but they are in the spotlight. Spotlight has potential to amplify, intensify, distort, fabricate or divide. The media will prey on the case and polarize the nation. Once polarized, then economic fallout from political mess will include low investment, low job creation, low stability and high inflation and high unemployment. So far, so good. The 2 political parties did not spill blood on the road to the Kuomboka Ceremony.
Ndulo is very artistic about theory.
The problem is that with theory all you need to do is make logical argument with it without facts.
In theory you are at liberty to assume and then use the assumptions to argue and finally draw conclusions.
Theorists, in the field of science, are not looking for truth and facts but logical flow of ideas regardless of whether they emanate from facts or assumptions.
Ndulo must humble his ideas from up there in the skies of assumptions down to the realm of truth and facts.
The questions Ndulo must ask are:
1) why is hh arrested?
2) why was he charged with treason?
3) why at this particular time and not before this time?
Did this guy say anything about Namwala and the President of Namwala denied that it never happened? Hazaluza Hagain! I wish he had done all these things under KK.
Dear Prof Ndulo,
I have a copy of your PhD Thesis published into a book. Its content is more in economics than practical Law. You were responsible for migration of several Law Lecturers to the South when you were Dean of Law. Readers will judge whether there was an element of nepotism in your administration then.
It is high time you were given a mini Lecture or Tutorial – just in case ordinary Zambians may be led to believe that whatever a Professor says or states is gospel truth.(1) Events linked to 2016 Elections clearly revealed intellectual and professional bankruptcy among Tonga Lawyers who failed to articulate legal points to save HH until the 14 days elapsed. Why did you and all Bantu-Botatwe Lawyers fail to interpret the provisions of the Zambian Constitution to HH? But…
The clan!
If a snake is troublesome don’t hit the tail you know where to ….! UPND is a snake! Three Mansion!
This arm chair critic must be condemned in the strongest possible term. He does not even understand what is obtaining on the ground. He only opens his beak when his colleague is arrested. Ask this man called Ndulo what happens in the US. Because he lives there he abides by the rules for fear that D Trump will deport him. When his colleague was behaving like a head of state and insulting our president, this arm char critic was just siting like a dumb man. Wisdom is not synonymous with education. Some of these so called professors are just called by that name they have no substance in their head. Shame on you muna.
Prof Ndulo,
But instead the wolves opted to loot HH’s money. They are still sucking him dry even under custody. May be only HH’s biological children can genuinely save their father out of this political mess.
(2) The Barotse Royal Establishment advised us all that the KUOMBOKA was strictly a cultural event and banned political postures in Mongu. Prof. Ndulo, HH, and all the Bantu-Botatwe “intellectuals” were alert to security data to the effect that a group of Lozi rebels had vowed to humiliate the Litunga at that event. Can we conclude that HH’s behavior was in support of the ANTI-LITUNGA clique in Mongu? If Ndulo cannot read HH’s behavior, then American universities must be cheap to have Ndulo as their Law Professor.
Prof Muna Ndulo must understand that the police have a job to do. This is not the first time police are working in this way. During Kaunda, Chiluba, Mwanawasa, RB, except during the late King Cobra, the police have to restore order and avoid anarchy. The Prof. is an expert on the need for police work, unless he has vested interest in UPND, which is not a problem. But to say that we are heading into a police state because of police acting on the law is being unfair especially for a man with such experience in law. Police have to continue their job without interference or compromising with anyone group of people. President Lungu’s government so far is one of the best but there is so much hatred out there against President Lungu. It is very shameful, I can see why people create dictators…
As expected, PF dunderheads are incapable of being schooled. They have been given a very erstwhile and comprehensive lecture in governance and respect. This is not about where Prof. Ndulo comes from. This is about whether he advances the true picture of a degenerate state. Dunderheads, those compromised by the PF, the feeders from Lungu’s table scraps and the proverbial ostriches have chosen to exist in decadence, devoid of the suffering of others or where the country is heading to.
The history of Zambia’s fall from a potentially ‘right thinking society’ that said NO to dictatorship in 1991, to what it has since become, appears to be only known to those who have hitherto managed to remain sober in analysis. In between, a horde of opportunistic blood thirsty ignorant people, that includes unprincipled and purchased pseudo intellectuals, has taken over. That is, birth of the PF – functioning outside a traditional political spectrum by abandoning liberal democracy and replacing it with political violence that has no moral or legal restraint. Operating through mobilising the masses in untruths to try and futilely rejuvenate themselves from the decadence of their origin. With this party and President, Zambia is doomed.
Terrible thanks fot acknowledging, so you were happy to live in and under that regime. We it was the norm for pipo to be stopped and asked how they got money where tifftiffs were everywhere reporting back. Where pipo were imprisoned on a whim. So all our steps forward have gone back to that era to satisfy a few ,,,in power.
One party states find the wealth at the top and distributed to an inner circle of sycophants
The majority of pipo SUFFER
Terrible am sure you won’t be one of those suffering, you posts in this blog show you are in the inner circle.
Understand me i am for neither party . I want peace and Prosperity for all zambians.
Objectively look at cuba, china under Mao, russia , syria, iraq to name a few. See who had wealth
Sometimes it’s better not to say anything, especially if you’re considered as a learned person in some circles. Of late whatever Muno Ndulo says he sees it through the eyes of Hichilema and his tribe. Reverse the circumstances or the players and see if he will say the same. The death of that ZAF officer is as a result of rivalry between two uniformed institutions reminiscent of the Kaunda era were each felt they were superior to the other
Crucify the burger,He has brought shame to himself!!!!! If HH had accepted defeat the way Sata used to do in 2021 he would have been president no doubt.Now we do not know if he will be normal after detention!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
its now 10 years since i started hearing this police state.when is it going to be a reality ,other wise its a sheer waste of time hearing of the same words,police state ,police state .let it become a reality than noise.when a stupid ***** is arrested it becomes a police state.ndulo and his useless pathetic satanic HH will fall
Ndulo you should suza Hagain degernates into an Under Five Clinic boy who doesn’t understand the electoral process in a democratic nation! He is this risking to destroy the peace Zambia has been known to have. I wish the animo were doing this when KK was president! He would have learned a lesson earlier and began to go to maternity as a mature woman and not as an Under 5!
Why can’t you guys use your real names? We who like to know whom we are talking with.
I agree with you. I think we need to start using our real names so that we can faithfully air our views. Our peaceful nation is democratic. Thank God for an intelligent president like Lungu
The fact is the Zambian police is corrupt…. weather political issues or not not…
Prof whoever the call you no one needs your comment stay holed where you are leave us Zambian who vote to deal with Zambian issues. Not you semi Zambians keep quiet, you do not know what we are going through.
Prof are you telling me police in the USA dont kill innocent people
The IMF didn’t say: you can only implement austerity measures by becoming a police state. The people don’t want this kind of economic violence, inflicted on them by the IMF and the elected head of state of the day.
Baby Ndulo muli Mbwa