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President Lungu talks tough, Police will arrest all those proposing violence

Headlines President Lungu talks tough, Police will arrest all those proposing violence

President Lungu speaks on arrival at South Downs Airport in Kalulushi on Thursday, Jan 5,2016-Pictures by THOMAS NSAMA
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President Edgar Lungu has warned all those agitating violence they would be arrested and that the law would take it s course.

Speaking at a public rally in Mbala on Saturday, President Lungu disclosed that he had received reports that some members of the opposition UPND , were planning to cause violent protests to agitate for the release of their leader Hakainde Hichilema.

“I wish to reiterate the warning given by the Minister of Home Affairs, Hon. Stephen Kampyongo, that any threat to the peace and security of the country will not be tolerated and will be taken out”

He disclosed that he was aware that some opposition members of Parliament met on Friday and discussed and plotted violent protests against government.

“We will be thorough. Anyone engaging themselves in illegal demonstrations or violent protests will be arrested.” He said.

He also advised Diplomats accredited to Zambia to refrain from engaging themselves in sovereign matters of the country.

“Let them do the job we accredited them to do in Zambia and not engage themselves in internal and sovereign matters of our country”

He also advised civil society and the Church to accept the rule of law and the Constitution and its provisions.

He repeated his earlier remarks that the law at this stage doesn’t allow him to interfere in cases that Hakainde Hichilema is facing.

He said, he is unable to intervene in the case of the opposition leader,as the matter was before the Police and the docket had since been referred to the Director of Public Prosecution (DPP).

“The DPP will determine the merit and the course of the matter and not President Lungu”.

President Lungu also said he had received numerous requests that he should hold dialogue or talks with the Opposition but found no relevance to do so as elections were over.
“The Elections are over. What are we going to talk about. It’s time to concentrate on developing our country”.

He also disclosed that the calls for him to exercise leniency and pardon Hakainde Hichilema were premature as the due process of the law was not exhausted.

“All criminal suspects will face full force of the law and the law is blind to social status. I won’t interfere with the UPND leader’s case because no law allows me to do so. His case will go to the DPP for consideration for consent to prosecute,” the President said.

“All diplomats accredited to Zambia and NGOs trying to force me to intervene in this case are wasting their time and I want to caution that they keep away from interfering with the due process of the law. I have no issues with the UPND and so even the so called dialogue with them is neither here nor there! Elections are over and the statutes governing elections determine how to win and that is over. I can discuss national issues that merit not a court case that has not been determined!”

“Hichilema is considered or deemed innocent and until proven guilty. The pardon is given to those found guilty and are already incarcerated”.

“It is for this reason that I am considering pardoning Chanda Chimba who is jailed but is unwell. Chanda Chimba was found guilty. He is eligible for a presidential pardon. We will see when I get to Lusaka…and consideration can not be given to those that have not even appeared before Court”.

Broadcaster Chanda Chimba was jailed by the Lusaka Magistrate but is reported to be admitted to the University Teaching Hospital suffering from prostate cancer.

President Lungu emphasized that he had taken time to make his position clear on the matter regarding Hichilema and said he would not discuss the matter any further.

He proceeded to discuss the development needs of Mbala Districts and Northern Province.

President Lungu is Northern Province on a working visit.

188 COMMENTS

    • BY DEFAULT THE POLICE MUST PROTECT ZAMBIA AGAINST CHAOS
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      Zambia is impotent without police, soldiers and Intel. Affirmatively Zambia needs a President with good wits like you your Excellency. You sore to protect the security of mother Zambia. We the patriots will support you and help protect Zambia internally and externally without blackmail. You are doing fine and enemies are jealous.

    • people who voted/rigged for this despot need to take him out before someone gets tempted to do somethin evil to him

    • We are to blame for stopping Edgar from visiting psyctrists abroad. He is speaking like he has celebral malaria. Uku

    • Dont release him till 2022

      We want peace

      Gbm must stand in 2021 lol

      Sadcc is quiete

      The church is quiete

      The donor’s are quiete

      The other opposition leaders are quiete

      Only tribalist are making noise

      Just ignore them

    • Your luck of respect will land you in hot water.

      Desist from disrespecting the Office your leader HH is craving for. If you fail to honour the Office, others will do the same if Mr Hakainde Hichilema or Mr Bwalya Mwamba became President.

    • I am sure all those celebrating HH’s arrest have their economic poverty solved. khikikikiki. But you PF cardes wait one more day. When there is noone else left to arrest, your azz is next. Thats whatsup ad thats how we will roll! Best wishes.

    • A bemba must take over this tribal party . Yabaa ki ki ki ki.

      They will all quit upend . We know them.

      Winter kabimba once said These people think using tribe not brains

      Guys scot once told VOA the guy is a leader of a small tribe from the south

    • You All can’t handle the truth.

      ECL, who is a Lawyer is tabulating the law for you but You prefer to be delusional like HH.

      You need to imploring the courts to have mercy on HH, or bothering ECL while he’s working.

      You are the same people calling ECL a dictator when he interferes in non Governmental matters. Mulifipuba?

    • It’s all threats to all corners….diplomats, churches, civil societies, etc….signs of dictatorship.
      Zambians and PF in particular, see what is coming off ECL, and just think of it if this was coming from someone else, would you consider these threat normal?

      The only sentence I found to make sense is ““The DPP will determine the merit and the course of the matter and not President Lungu”.
      Yes, and if we have an objective DPP, she will throw out this case for luck of evidence. Period.

    • This utterly LAZY BUM EDGAR all he does is make all these utterances when he is on a “working holiday” yet all this thing is doing is campaigning for 2021 and holding Public Rallies without shame…when he comes back to Lusaka he is quiet..what a way to lead a nation!!

    • Which dictator?
      You mean parliament is a dictator?

      The issue at play is the law, and if you break the law you will account.

      These laws are made by parliament and enforced by law enforcers.

      Now, who is the dictator you are referring to, is it the parliament or the law enforcers or the law breaker?

    • The essence of power is the ability to define someones reality and have them live according to that definition as though it is a definition of their own choosing.
      What you do for yourself often depends on what you think of yourself and what you think of yourself depends on what you know of yourself and what you know of yourself depends on what you have been told.
      Only true revolutionaries have been able to tell themselves what they are and consequently what they should do for themselves. A docile people will always be subservient to those people who define their reality. Ask yourself, which of these you are and act fearlessly. Fear paralyses action.

    • SURELY, THERE’S NOTHING TO DISCUSS WITH THE OPPOSITION UPND ABOUT HIS ARREST OR ANY SITUATION BEFORE HIS ARREST. THIS IS TIME TO WORK FOR NATIONAL DEVELOPMENT. CAMPAIGNS ARE OVER UNTIL 2021. IT IS FUNNY TO HEAR EVEN LAWYERS AND OTHER LEARNED PEOPLE CALLING FOR THE PARDON OF HH. BUT, PARDON FOR WHAT? FOR AN ALLEGATION? ATI, ‘I AM PARDONNING YOU THE THE OFFENSE YOU HAVE ALLEGEDLY COMMITED, ALTHOUGH WE DON’T KNOW EXACTLY WHICH OFFENSE’. DOES THAT MAKE ANY SENSE, AT ALL?

    • Lungu, Lungu. Don’t abuse power like that. You even going to the extent of talking to diplomats like that is not right. When sanactions are placed it will be the Zambian people. This chap has no heart for Zambians. What the police did was wrong and as a president (questionable) you have the right to do what is right. You think what you are doing makes you strong by teargasing someone’s children and wife, looting and damaging his property. This is wrong on all levels. Doing wrong will not make you legimate. I US, EU can just bring their armies so we hear you talk tough against them and how they have tried to help our country

    • What if the people say kill us all or get out you kachakolwa are you going let the police kill people?

      Thinking that what people did during arab spring can not happen in Zambia is utter stupidity and really taking Zambians for granted.

      KK thought was untouchable , where is he now?

      Chakolwa Lungu must know that angry people dont fear guns or death in their fight for freedom.

      Zambians demand for Lungu to go is fast approaching. Zambians are fade up with Lungu s lawlessness.

      How far does this kamuntu think can push Zambians accept his brutality?

    • Ask KK how much tough talking got him out of power.

      Ask Mubarak how much tough talking got him out?

      Ask thd Tunisian president how much tough talking got him out?

      Once you have answered this question only when uou will know that matters of people s freedoms are not to be taken lightly here.

      You have pardoned or even failed to arrest all those who killed UPND supporters and think Zambians are going to be afraid of your police tactics.

      This jameson whisky doing the talking here. You think Kk Mubarak Ghadaffi and Tunisian leader were weak then you have a nasty surprise on your way.

      GOD BLESS HH and Punish Lungu please.

    • @ 1.9 Rainman & the Magna Carta: I make it Rain on Command

      The problem is that you are expecting that when hh comes he will be your economic savior.

      What a pitty, shame!

    • UPND supporters do not even trouble yourselves trying to get to EL, I tell you the truth, The same PF thugs who put EL in power are the same thugs who will take him out when they start ukunya ameshi, The poverty levels down already but have not reached a level that will awaken the PF thugs to realise that EL is a fake and clueless and the will raise against him, So UPND just buy popcorns and watch the movie unfold. PF will enter into a self-distraction mode when the time comes, Watch this space.

    • @ Peace for Zambia. You must be very drunk like most PF cadres I know who ushered in Lungu to either get a contract or a job. Now get a pen and paper to to write this down. if you cannot write, memorise and this must stick to your head for ever:

      I can feed you 5 meals a day, together with your father, mother and siblings, and your girlfriend and her siblings, and still manage to catch a plane to any country I want to for a holiday at the end of the year. I am not like you chaps here who cannot even afford internet and all you do is steal company working hours. Get a life that is meaningful!

  1. You are the architect of distraction in Zambia. Illegal protest, do you even know what that means? No one apart from Pf can get any permit from you stooges. Anyone with an opposing view you are clamping clamping down. You are not President until you respect the laws of Zambia yourself. You defied the constitution during the elections and now you are masquerading as President. No shame in you Lungu, man up and hear the petition. You have achieved anything since you and your minions declared you President. Frankly speaking, Zambia will be better off without you. Respect the constitution of the land or just go away. You are not President until proven otherwise. And stop using the term ‘mandate’ by saying Zambians gave it to you. They didn’t, we will not know until the petition is heard…

    • Which petition are you referring to? I thought the petition had its time frame according to constitution 14 days and it wasn’t lungu who dictated it. So what’s the husle

    • This man is now mad tell him that Kaizer Zulu wont help him when real Guns start to crack very soon.

  2. You are the architect of distraction in Zambia and everything that is going wrong. Illegal protest, do you even know what that means? No one apart from Pf can get any permit from you stooges. Anyone with an opposing view you are clamping down. You are not President until you respect the laws of Zambia yourself. You defied the constitution during the elections and now you are masquerading as President. No shame in you Lungu, man up and hear the petition. You haven’t achieved anything since you and your minions declared you President. Frankly speaking, Zambia will be better off without you. Respect the constitution of the land or just go away. You are not President until proven otherwise. And stop using the term ‘mandate’ by saying Zambians gave it to you. They didn’t, we will not know…

    • Do not worry Kazim will will soon get hold of you for insulting the President. We know who you are. You do not even understand the constitution at all. We will use a bulldozer to crush you. Stop it if you want peace. You HH does not know how to play political game. You do not dare a person with power. In fact he was lack the president did not order to open fire in Mongu, that force you saw is deadly all those coming with HH will have died by now. Stop it. Tell HH how to do politics. In politics you as a leader of the opposition you do not go where the President is no matter how elections went by. You go the other side or you do not attend at all. Poor judgement by HH and pride is what will kill him. Go and ask relatives of Harry Mwanga Nkumbula. You can never win like that. Be strategic…

    • @Perfect Idyot, there’s only one road to Limulunga. You are hallucinating that HH should have gone in the opposite direction. Did you want him to go to Senanga for the Kuomboka just because Lungu was going to Limulunga? HH had started his trip earlier and he was not trying to overtake your beloved Lungu. Try and use the little brain that you ought to have instead of glowering in fake power.

  3. Dear Chagwa, I vote for you after traveling from South Africa because I believed in you. To me your background of as a simple son of the soil made me cry for you to become my President. I love you Chagwa the same way I love Robert Mugabe. Yes, HH is the leader of the opposition but you do not get power through arrogance, the state crushes you to zero. No one in the world has ever gotten power through arrogance. Even Shaka had to wait for his turn and he was patient. HH was very close to Presidency but lack of patience and over ambitious will never make him get to state house. At one time I voted for Mazoka because I saw the leadership qualities in him. HH does not have that at all. Even Nawakwi beats him hands down. Between Nawakwi and HH I would go for Nawakwi.
    Get all Mr President who…

  4. How is he a dictator wen he is saying what the law of Zambia says? No one is above the law. Advise your hh to respect the law and stay away from problems.

    • A leopard does not change his spots, ECL is a dictator as shown by his behavioural characteristics and that will not change the perception.

    • Even Dictators say the truth only when it is convenient to them. Yes he has quoted the law correctly but he lacks love and the emotional intelligence to note the tension in the country which is negatively impacting our economy. When this tension escalates, Chagwa should understand that he can be the first victim of his state machinery he is currently using against others. Learn from past dictators who walked the same slippery path! Mr President, the posturing you have started will be your downfall! Think again!

    • SO WHAT IF HE IS A DICTATOR, I WOULD RATHER HE WAS FOR THE SAKE OF UNITING THE COUNTRY BY CRUSHING TRIBALISTS.

    • Any self respecting person that claims to be a Christian and publically goes to church cannot possibly believe such trash!

      If this Lungu thinks he is President, the FIRST THING he should be doing is opening and investigation into how the Police behaved in this case.

      Or does he think it is OK for the police to smash down gates, teargas women and children, defecate and urinate on a Citizen of Zambias bed, destroy his property and steal his money in the middle of the night?

      Is this how the “law” is now being applied in Zambia???

      A decent, God fearing President would have IMMEDIATELY suspended the police officer in charge, pending a full investigation, and kicked out of the police force if found wanting, with criminal charges against him to follow.

      Obviously Lungu is not…

    • Obviously Lungu is not Presidential material. Can Zambian please have a real President that FOLLOWS THE LAW! And protects the rights of Zambians. Not just his own selfish interests.

    • He talks tough when he is outside the capital city and airport tarmac yet cowers from press conferences as this lazy thing can not answer any questions. He lets his dull stooges do the talking and thicken the whole mess like the ICC issue where $200,000 was wasted!!

    • That’s what happens when your Minister of Home Affairs is a former Katondo Currency Dealer and your Justice and Legal Affairs Minister’s highest qualification is a Diploma in Agricultural Business Management!!

  5. True colours of a dictator..so every Zambian must be PF and side with you, otherwise You arrest them? You even start to bite fingers that feed you..I pity the land of my father.

    • zambia don’t know War thats why they like to disrespect other peoples freedom.

      Its like a drunkard who’s never been beaten & provokes each person in the bar till one day he provokes someone to beat him to pulp.

      Thats lungu & pf00ls for you.

  6. You are only interested in their funding when it comes to comments or advice you say leave us with our internal matters. What money do you have to run this country if it was not for donors? African leaders nimukanwa fye emobatekela.

    • You are dull Mateo, you think they give you their money for free. Simple maths, they get twice we get from them. Let them hung I hate them with passion. I would rather keep Lungu, or we pardon HH than listen to imperialist. Let them go. If I become President would tighten laws regarding diplomacy. You think a Zambian ambassador can say what they say in London. You are suffering from an inferiority complex.

    • You call them imperialists but 53 years after independence you are still grovelling to Western govts for economic assistance. You have no pride and conscience. You want western money, including from IMF, so that you can squeeze and kill opponents.

  7. NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW. DO NOT HUNT WHAT YOU CANNOT KILL. THINK BEFORE YOU MISBEHAVE IN THE NAME OF FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION. JUST FOLLOW THE LAID DOWN PROCEDURES AND NO ONE WILL CHASE AFTER YOU. BE CAREFUL WITH WHAT YOU POST ON FB AND OTHER SOCIAL MEDIA OTHERWISE YOU WILL SEE THE WRATH OF THE POLICE.

  8. What is so special about HH anyway? Besides he is the one who has been daring Zambians for so long.
    President Lungu is our Republican President and anyone who bellies or underwater his authority will be treated accordingly. This is the basic principle of governance.
    Even Donald Trump is now using his authority whenever he sees danger or security concerns to the world, refer to Syria, Afghanistan and North Korea.
    Hichilema and the UPND needs reap what they sow. Break the law and be ready to face the consequences, period! TREASON is a very grave crime just in case some UPND chaps don’t realise it.

  9. A “humble” dictator is unmasked! Looks like we are in for it. Seems Lungu has suspended the rule of law. As a lawyer he claims to be, and if he has the capacity to tell right from wrong, he should have voiced concern against abuse of human rights we have recently witnessed but he chooses to turn a blind eye. Wait for the tables to turn. Apply the law fairly, the way you would want it applied to you when you are out of plot1! Don’t take God’s people for granted!

    • @XFactor so if HH was the president and if either Nawakwi or Chipimo was opposition leader and their motorcade is signalled to give way for President HH and they refuse to give way…what would have the UPND government done?… do not bother answering as you and i know the answer.
      Even in opposition HH needs to show respect for the rule of law period.

  10. ECL HAS BEEN SEEN AS A WEAKLING. I THINK HE HAS NOW BEEN ABLE TO LEARN THAT “ICAKU KONKA ULUBILI, NAIWE CIKONKE ULUBILO”. HH HAS TURNED ZAMBIA INTO A JUNGLE WHERE HE CAN DO WHATEVER HE WANTS. HE INSULTS THE PRESIDENT WHEN HE WANTS IN THE NAME OF PRESS FREEDOM. JUST THE OTHER DAY HE CALLED ECL AS A HYENA. HE DARED THE PRESIDENTIAL MOTORCADE IN MONGU AND HE WANTS TO BE TREATED WITH KIDS GLOVES. THAT IS NONSENSE. THE ONLY CRIME ECL HAS COMMITTED IS TO TAKE TOO LONG TO RESPOND TO THE NONSENSE COMING FROM HH.THE COURTS OF LAW SHOULD DEAL WITH HH ACCORDING TO THE LAW. LET HIM FACE THE CONSEQUENCES OF HIS ACTS. IT IS UNHEARD OF. THE VIDEO FOOTAGE OF WHAT HAPPENED IN MONGU . UPND CADRES SHOUTING AT THE PRESIDENTIAL MOTORCADE AS “YOU DOGS”.

    • @Barabas Oh by Zambia being blessed, you forgot to mention the following:-
      – pipo dying from stampede over free food,
      – hungry pipo in kombonis & rural areas,
      – destitute retirees, hospitals with no drugs,
      – unemployed youths,
      – our young sisters forced into prostitution bcoz of no jobs,
      – 80 pupils in 1 class sitting on bricks.

      Winning trophies is petty, an underachiever. Real blessings are citizens being well-off.

      Please travel to developed countries & see truly blessed nations. The sooner we put a bullet between Chakolwa’s eyes, the better for our children’s future.

  11. Resolution comes in more than one form. My humble advice to ED2.0 is to look at our history and then consider our future. To be clear look at OUR history not your own and consider OUR future and not your own. A molehill becomes a mountain if one is stubbornly trying to make a point no one actually cares about. Bread and butter issues require a functioning government working with a functioning by opposition. Both sides will at least agree that the PEOPLE should come first. Instead of leading the way to a better Zambia for ALL we are on a path to nowhere. 1964 to 2017 should be considered history. Where do we want to be in 2027. That should be where all your minds should be. Everything else is petty. We are perfectly placed to change things but it requires thinkers. Is anyone capable?

  12. “…….that the law at this stage doesn’t allow him to interfere in cases …”

    Only in stopping police investigating RB, Kaizer zulu , kambwilli and others…..

    • we need to arm our youths with AK-47s & hand-grenades to counter abuse from PF cadres dressed up in police uniforms

  13. Lungu is digging his own grave. Lungu talks of the Zambian Constitution which he abrogated left and right. He only knows the Rule of Law when it suits him. The Constitution says once a Petition is lodged with Concourt Lungu should have resigned and handedover to the Speaker of Parliament to Act as President while the Petition is being heard but Lungu refused to do so. The Constitution says Concourt should declare the Winner of the Election after hearing the Petition and determining it. Lungu swore himself back in power without a Concourt Declaration and was not sworn in by the Chief Justice or her Deputy. All these acts are illegal and unconstitutional. Lungu is being misled by the likes Kaizer Zulu ,Kampyongo, Mwamba etc. Very soon Lungu will be crying for dialogue.

    • Where are the hypocrite Christians-for-lungu? Maybe they are busy praying in tongues for their evil small god lungu.

      Riba-ba-ba rima shandara lyobondo-lo
      Riba-ba-ba rima shandara lyobondondo, kandolo

    • 3rd WORLD IS A GENIUS!!
      Mungoni, I am also in stitches here.
      “Riba ba rima shandara lyobondolo lo” -chant Christians for Chakolwa!

  14. The biggest problem in zambia is the judiciary and the police.How many complaints have been raised agaist KZ? max? kamba? but these have never received a callout but the police will just say the case is still active, really! what about that Chavula man who was found with ECZ accreditation, is he still in custody? coming to court, the common practice is adjournment of cases while the suspect remains in custody or bail condition extended.

    • ALL BECAUSE THE CORRUPT DRUNKARD MASQUERADING AS PRESIDENT, IS A LYING, THIEVING, & CHEATING TINPOT DICTATOR!!
      Ati “He’s Humble”, MY FOOT!! Chagwa is like a Crocodile, that sheds tears for its victim, then proceeds to maim & eat that same victim.
      I’m sure Chagwa the Crocodile showed the poor Widow compassion, & humblenes, before proceeding to steal, & drink the Widow’s cash, despite knowig this Widow needed the cash to support herself & her family.
      P.F Cadres can you now show [email protected], & dispute this.

  15. Frightened dictator… you can tell the whole issue is haunting him. No one has has asked him to pardon HH but he keeps on repeating the so called ‘pardon request’, just to emphasise who is boss. He keeps talking anbout ‘law’ when he’s the worst at breaking it and abusing it. He sent those cops to arrest HH and he should stop fooling us like he doesn’t have anything to do with it.

    Apparently he keeps threatening people with police arrest, yet he pretends he doesn’t order the police to go and arrest his opponents. He wants the opposition, the church, the NGOs, diplomats not to say anything and retreat in their slumber or he would send his cops to arrest them. He’s really turning into a dictator worse that Kim Jong-un of North Korea.

    It’s about time Zambians stood for their…

    • Frightened dictator… you can tell the whole issue is haunting him. No one has has asked him to pardon HH but he keeps on repeating the so called ‘pardon request’, just to emphasise who is boss. He keeps talking about ‘law’ when he’s the worst at breaking it and abusing it. He sent those cops to arrest HH and he should stop f00ling us like he doesn’t have anything to do with it.

      Apparently he keeps threatening people with police arrest, yet he pretends he doesn’t order the police to go and arrest his opponents. He wants the opposition, the church, the NGOs, diplomats not to say anything and retreat in their slumber or he would send his cops to arrest them. He’s really turning into a dictator worse that Kim Jong-un of North Korea.

    • Continued…

      It’s about time Zambians stood for their rights… no one will deliver them on a silver platter (certainly not this Lungu dictator who stole elections). Until Zambians are ready to sacrifice and die for their rights like our friends in the Middle East and West Africa, they will continue to be victimised by dictators like Changwa Lungu.

    • Well said Alternative. Freedom does NOT come via dialogue. True freedom comes via violence. So that future presidents will refer to the sad case of chakolwa’s demise after he tried to take away zambians rights & freedom.

      Dub poet Mutabaruka once sang: by the ballot, by the bible, by the Bullet, freedom must come

  16. In some countries, this monkey would have been assasinated. The problem is that zambia is made up coward tribes who ran away from other conflict nations

  17. He has become arrogant. That is not a good sign. Bad attitude. I hope when these laws come knocking when he is no longer in power, he will remember these arrogant words.

  18. Defination of a Police state: a totalitarian state controlled by a political police force that supervises the citizens’ activities with brutality.

  19. This cowardly illegal boy ain’t tough. Soon the pressure of arresting hh will lead him to start his usual kunyu fainting carelessly like a dehydrated rat.

  20. With all the due respect, I do not see any strong evidence that which can espouse the state case in which Haikainde Hichelema is the prospective accused person. Legally speaking, there ought to be an intention(actus reas) on the part of the accused to commit an offence, apparently there is none. The prospective accused’s convoy was in motion whilst the incumbent’s convoy approached the former’s convoy from behind.

  21. As Prophet Bushiri’s prophesy, this is lungu’s biggest blunder. He’s just signed he’s own death warrant

    Lungu is hiding his economic failures by arresting HH & opposition parties. I like the way mwanawasa changed pipos hatred of him by working hard & fixing the economy. Not hiding behind police brutality like u r Museveni.

    • Which economy did Mwanawasa fix?? During Mwanawasa copper was at us$9,500+ per ton, even Mulyokela can look like a hard working president!!

    • @zambian citizen

      Yes it was a combination of several factors. The kwacha gained against the dollar for the 1st time since 1976. He left 3billion in reserves & zero debt after hipc loan cancellation.

      Today we are back in debt of over $8billion due to a mungulu PF govt. Yesterday PF regime announced IMF is back. The pipo who voted/rigged for chakolwa need to pay for this debt.

  22. That’s my president. HH says there’s no president so why should you intervene. Above all, no one is above the law.

  23. God be with us & our leaders in Zambia. It’s simple, the Bible says respect all authority as it comes from the LORD. Then you’ll not have problems. As a Christian nation God will not allow anarchy in Zambia. Expect not only the state machinery to deal with anarchists but the Lord Almighty as well. Be careful with the violence you are planning opposition. God will not allow it in this God country. God Bless Zambia!

  24. UPND MPs are totally justified to meet and chart some actions to take against PF, Edgar and Police for unfairly harassing their President HH. There are no two ways about it, Edgar is abusing power with the single intention of harming HH. So the UPND leadership, members and sympathizers need to come together urgently to stop these wrong actions by Edgar!

  25. There are a number of elements which ought to be considered prior to drawing up a charge sheet against the accused or the suspect as is the position in the matter between the police and the suspects. Most of the cardinal elements which would have strengthened the would be case have indeed been overlooked. That said, Hakainde Hichilema’s defense team should and can employ such erroneous approaches in puncturing the police/state case against HH. Be it as it may, the accusers have already exhibited common prejudiced interest in the case which has been placed before the Director of Public Prosecutions. The state approach in this specific matter is emotionally charged and uncritical, thus, it is characterised by so many omissions in a quest to incarcerate HH. Len Joe (Post-doctoral fellow,…

  26. Perfect whatever your name is you are dull yourself. All you are interested in is to plunder all the money in the coffers. Why is Zimbabwe not doing well if they don’t depend on donors? Which inferiority complex are you talking about? You lack planning you just wait on handouts fimbwi no plan.

    • Mateo you seem to know nothing at all about Geo-politics. Which national resources did i plunder? Who told you Zimbabwe is worse. Imperialist want your resources and you want to live by cringing to their dollars. My friend be proud of who you are as a human being. Your arguments are irrational. I do not depend on any donor my self. My four degrees I have did not come from donor support. I teach at one of the most prestigious University not from donor money at all. Let the imperialist go. Which African diplomat tells them what to do in London. You seem to have very little knowledge about international diplomacy. You act like a house nigger who was told his master gave him the best life and yet the master raped his mother to produce him. Forget about imperialist we actually do not need them…

  27. There can never be development where there is no peace. Zambia is already tense and you seem to be adding salt to a wound.

  28. UPND is shocked that Zambia is as quiet as snow since monday the 7th April when HH was arrested for endangeouring the life of the president in mongu.upnd cheat themselves that they are too popular in Zambia when in fact not!!there are maybe few tribal elements in 3.5 provinces who are trying to cause little chaos here and there but ZP is there to deal with them.LET IG DROP SOUTHERN PROVINCE DEPUTY POLICE COMMISSIONER,A MR MATANGA FOR ALLOWING HIS FELLOW TONGAS TO CAUSE A BIT OF CHAOS IN LIVINGSTONE.Bravo ECL for taking that stance.let the courts clear or convict hh so that other politicians with the aim of causing confusion in Zambia after ECZ declare the winner can learn a big lesson!!HH IS NOT ABOVE THE LAW!!

  29. He now appears touch, but when he was required to rise to the occasion he remained quite such as time when cadets over-ran the Ndola international airport, he never and has never said a thing.weak pretender.

  30. He is in govt but he is still campaigning in his first year for 2021 on taxpayers time….weak insecure lazy Edgar

    • He wont even contest in 2021. Constitution says third term is only for veeps who take over after president dies, not defence ministers. matter is in court.

      Thats why chakolwa has arrested HH to keep them too busy to focus on 3rd term & election petiton. Anyway, with a rotten judiciary anything is possible. only AK-47 bullets can sober up PF00ls

  31. You can get as tough as you want Bwana but one thing is certain. The masses are hungry and hungry people are angry people. If you don’t take criticism, you are in the wrong job! It is a slippery path you have taken sir! There are better things to get tough on like the dead economy, poverty, illiteracy, etc!

  32. Why I insist that UPND members are donkeys, they embarked on a match to destruction. After losing the 2016 elections, they lined up behind a blind leader HH and begun matching blindly. HH blindly matched over the cliff first, yesterday Katuka nearly followed but police saved him. And miraculously they are still matching towards the cliff despite being told that there is a cliff ahead and HH has already fallen over.
    Such behaviour is typically seen in donkeys.

    • being critical of upnd is not a passport to insult like Mimbi and her followers. If those who call supporters for UPND fun names are just fools to say the least.

  33. It is clear for all to see that NEZ was surely the rightful winner of best blogger. I have watched this guy grow his fan base and increase upvotes while mushota has been forced into a mere PF cadre attacking tribes and not making any sense at all. I followed you NEZ at umfweko and when you left that website it finished. You are a true champion of freedom of speech. continue in your work young man. Please do not forget me when you become a top government official because I can tell uli wamano iwe. Do not waste your intelligence on these useless forums. you are better than this

  34. I don’t listen to any of these politicians. Since I don’t listen, I don’t hear their usual threats. In the eyes of God, we are all the same. Nobody is more important than the other. We can cheat each other here on earth, it is temporal. PF and UPND must be extinct from the face of this earth

  35. Lungu is a bad President. He has been fighting to get where he is. He fought with pangas to become PF President at Mulungushi with the help of Wina. 2015, elections stole UPND’ s victory using Mambilima. 2016, elections using Chulu and Isaacs. Nothing is hidden under the sun your day will come baba Ati efyo njiba that’s why you are uncomfortable. Days are numbered you are not the first President of Zambia.

    • Bring the evidence mateo. take it to court that elections were stolen in this way. You do not seem to know much about elections at all. HH miscalculates votes in Zambia. You can get 100 % in the three provinces but its not enough. Get statistical knowledge to understand pulling factor to the center when you are dealing with figures.Western province Southern province and Northwestern province maybe big geographically but have less people. No body stole results at all. The number of votes in Suthern province is equal to the number in eastern province. In fact for your own information I was there myself UPND lost the presidency because of the rupiah Banda factor. If HH acted maturely he should have been president by now. You do not act stiff if you want to be president. You do not need to…

  36. Get to work Mr. President we are behind you! Don’t hit the snake’s tail, it will continue to misbehave again! We know where to hit it! You are a great president bringing development to Zambia while Namwala thugs and their supporters are trying to bring confusion to the nation! They will never succeed! We know Hazaluza Hagain!

    • @ sharon, lungu needs big tall bodyguards to cover his ugly head. he needs a long bullet proof vest & big military helmet.

      Ask for violence, u get violence. Enough is enough!

      We fought bigger battles than a drunkard surrounded by illiterate paramilitaries.

  37. A group of frustrated wailers from Ing’ombe Ilede have flooded this blog with anti-president messages! Hazaluza Hagain!

  38. This man is a cruel dictator, a thug. He is the most insane president we have ever had. He is very violent because his policemen are insatiable brutes with no humanity and no concept of decency in treating law-abiding citizens. Killings, the use of chemicals, the unwarranted cruelity unknwon to Zambians is now a common theme of his savage leadership. He must be taken out no matter what happens. His actions against innocent citizens have spoken enough to tell us his true colours – he is a psychiatric, mental case best for Chainama! Mr. Lungu, you have trashed Zambia because you know that you are a criminal. Had you had any decency, you would have pushed for the petition to be heard, and also you would have complied with the ruling of the ConsCourt on your illegal ministers and the benefits…

  39. I hate Lungu vomiting on me. Someone tell him to SHUT UP!! I hate his booze filled breathe and his stinking clothes washed in liquor. Please someone do something to get rid of this demon!

  40. Yes lungu I lovvve it when you attack the diplomats. Tell them to mind their own business.

    I Just lovvve it.

    • Remember Mugabe telling of the west to go to hell. Later the zim dollar crumbled & his pipo are economic refugees & are called the cockroaches of southern africa. Zim teachers, doctors are now prostitutes in LSK

      hypocritically he uses US dollar as his currency even after insulting bush.

    • I love it too. He should actually speak like Mugabe and say stupid British. Ummm British go to hell. You think they are in our countries for free. In fact we do not need these little white picked nose people. Let them back off.

  41. We are behind you President Lungu. You are a Righteous in every way. We have witnessed how calm you dealt with constant provocations from HH and UPND. Frankly, there ought to be more charges levied for Treason. Interfering with Parliamentary processes and procedures by UPND MP’s, also for repetitive denials of your right to hold office and recognition. The police have been lenient. DPP, has strong enough a case even with the traffic incident. Arguments that the Driver of HH is culpable for the Treason charge is evidence of how the man and his party endanger innocent Zambians. Whatever happened to vicarious responsibility, since driver is hired by UPND to drive HH? Things have gone too far and order and respect must be induced.

    • For the foreign diplomats in Zambia, there must be a reminder that Zambia is a repository for large Western investment. It’s also in the West’s interest to control this matter. President Kaunda was under House Arrest for years, and yet we never heard them squeal protest. It’s only where they think they can sponsor a black African like HH who has no respect for his fellow blacks because his interest is the Money he pockets in reckless privatised industries that work for them.

    • “….For the foreign diplomats in Zambia, there must be a reminder that Zambia is a repository for large Western investment…”

      That’s what they thought of Zimbabwe.. …

    • Zambia and Zimbabwe, ‘Azino pindinara’ (I.e. the two like oil and water, not fitting together like a puzzle). Pardon my Zezulu.

    • Exactly it is vicarious responsibility. Endangers a state trough. He will dance to it. If I were him should be cool. What has gone wrong my brother HH. I voted for him during Mwanawasa time but of late he has lost it.

  42. Terms and conditions of the Rule of Law apply.
    We have the president and if your assez don’t like it, seleni babombeko.
    Lunatic merchants of death; enemies of progress.

    • Destroying the economy & bringng in IMF is the seleni tubombe? or is it increasing the already high electricity & fuel prices?

      less than 6months after singing dununa-reverse song your drunkard has failed. Thats why he’s shifting attention to imprisoning HH.

  43. Bunch of thieves and Kaponyas no wonder you hail from Chawama. It is Komboni behaviour. How can you send Policemen who are supposed to protect the public go and steal anything they lay hands on and defecate in someone ‘s house even if it is your enemy? Zambia yapwa kufipuba ifi. Mulekwatako insoni imisango ububi atase.

  44. Thanks independent. I try my best to speak for the volumes of the people

  45. For those who fear that HH may be killed, please be assured that no one is interested in killing that political flyweight underfive. What you should worry about is the difference between the diet in his home and in prison. That initially will cause a few bouts of running tummy, constipation, and a few other discomforts. You may think that he is poisoned but dont worry he ts him unless he had no idea what he was talking abour, awill get used to his new diet and toilet conditions within two weeks. He said that he is ready for prison didnt he? That means he is ready for what awaits him. Correct Mr HH?

  46. For those who fear that HH may be killed, please be assured that no one is interested in killing that political flyweight underfive. What you should worry about is the difference between the diet in his home and in prison. That initially will cause a few bouts of running tummy, constipation, and a few other discomforts. You may think that he is poisoned but dont worry he will get used to it. He will get used to his new diet and toilet conditions within two weeks. He said that he is ready for prison didnt he? That means he is ready for what awaits him. Unless he was clueless what he was talking about, as usual. Correct Mr HH?

  47. Acting president of UPND Mr GBM and his officials are too quiet about hh today, have they forgotten about him so quickly? Or after failing to take a gun to him, they are defeated? By the way the police must tell us what was the intention of Katuka carrying a gun into a police establishment even if it is licensed, did UPND want to eliminate their leader or what?

  48. Tanzanian president Magufuri pardoned the local Tanzanian musician when he was arrested for defaming the president. The president used his powers even before the musian appeared in court. So what is Lungu on about?
    As educated as Ba Lungu is , the bush mentality is still in his head. Just behave democratically by upholding the rule of law. Overtaking some one on a public road is not treason imwe ba lawyer.

  49. HH did and his companions did not intentionally block the incumbent’s convoy as alleged by the Zambian Police Service. The aspect about ‘intention’ (actus reas) is very essential in securing a conviction beyond reasonable doubts in any criminal case including in the alleged charge of treason which has been compiled by the investigation team concerned. If the accused persons from the onset before they embarked on their preferred journey strongly indicated/expressed verbally or through their actions that they intended to block the incumbent’s motorcade, then they are liable for criminal prosecutions. After reviewing the movements of the accused/suspected persons and the incumbent (accuser) on the known day in question, it is explicit that HH and his entourage were merely minding their…

    • You must be very sick – with those morons standing by HH’s vehicle shouting “forsake” to the Republican President – and we all heard it? Come to your senses and abandon stupiditty.

    • @ one Zambia. Did HH shout forsake or was it the cadres? Why not arrest HH’s driver & the cadres who insulted chakolwa?

      HH has not control of what cadres say just like lungu has no control of wht u blog on this site.

  50. Why is Lungu holding these Rallies if indeed he won the 2016 Election? He should be governing instead of addressing Rallies.Now the Western govts, International and Regional Bodies can see who Lungu is. After Lungu’s Barbaric attack on HH’s homestead they can now see that in Lungu they are dealing with a Criminal and an Illegitimate govt which does not believe in Rule of Law, has No Respect for Human Rights,Good Governance and Constitutionalism. Lungu is now quarreling with Western govts & Aid Donors. Western Economic and Travel Sanctions on the Illegitimate Lungu Regime are coming. Tough times aheard.

    • So you mean one can only hold rallies if the lost.

      I did know that rallies ate meant for losers.

    • you are sick, are western governments even better at human rights. You have forgotten how they treat black people in their own countries. They are no better than you. I have lived in most of these western countries my friend do not say a thing

  51. Lungu, Lungu. My only advise is stop what you are doing. Especially with the diplomats whom you seek funding from. Zambians depend on the EU, US. All these are asking is you go prove your legitmacy in court? The police approach was in human and the arresting of HH is pure injustice. Everyone can see that. You want to put this peaceful country on fire. Why? Your presidency will never be blessed and trouble will follow you wherever you are. Do what is right in God’s eyes not eyes of men. The only thing is do not let Zambian people suffer.

  52. Ma rubbish Ka Lungu

    Ba Zambia… this sick drunkard is now gone too far

    What has he done since his stole the elections… NOTHING

    And some *****s support this PF ( Pathetic Fools ) mismanagement

  53. WE WANT TO SEE LUNGU TO COME AND HOLD THOSE RALLIES IN NW, WESTERN, AND SOUTHERN PROVINCES WHERE PEOPLE’S HEART ARE BURNING AND NOT WHERE HE IS. IT IS LIKE A COWARD DOG BACKING IN ITS CLOSET

    LUNGU, MUST BRING HIS IDEAS IN THESE THREE PROVINCE AND IF THEY LISTEN TO HIS SPEECH THE HE IS A TRUE PRESIDENT. START WITH SOUTHERN, WESTERN THEN NW PROVINCES.

    • There is no need for ECL to come there until your hearts stop burning. Why are they burning by the way?

    • He can stay without going there. Kaunda did the same. He stayed out and only ruled by military force there. Why bother when they rest appreciate. Nkhumbula tried his ANC but it died a natural death. If not careful this is the beginning of the death to UPND.You like it or not HH miscalculated he will be found guilty on any of the charges they are actually five (1) treason to keep him in prison(2) endangering state security (3)dangerous driving for which he is vicarious liable for all wrongs caused by his employee the driver. (4) Insulting the seating President by calling him a hyena and (5) Refusing the state orders thus disobeying lawful orders both at home when he was told to come out and at the material day of the scene in Mongu. These charges are not ease to erase.
      He does not know…

  54. Humble and born again President take it easy. No need for been superman or God incarnate you will never be you are human and so it shall be. You have the power and authority to do something about HH and you know that.

  55. I was watching Nkwazi FC Vs Lusaka Dynamos game today.it ended 1-1.Hon.Stephen Kampyongo and IG Kanganja sat with us all for whole 90 minutes in VIP.it was business as you usual while you upnd cadres are hurting yourselves online!!besides,its now 19hrs so watch how PF and ECL are loved in the North on ZNBC!!!NUMBERS NEVER LIE,EVEN IN 2021 EXPECT PF TO KOLOPA VOTES IN 6.5 PROVINCES AND UPND WILL DO THE SAME IN 3.5 PROVINCES AND A WINNER WILL SURELY BE PF IN 2021 ONCE MORE AM SURE!!

    • What next? Did you also use the same toilet with your IG? Why did you not ask him about his utter incompetence in Mongu?

  56. The moment u see a President fighting the Church, civil Organisations and Diplomats; then trouble and hunger have loomed.

  57. Only God has authority over everything these illegal rulers are temporal and they will be judged accordingly

  58. our dictators are cowards all this is because of the presidential petition which is seriuos and can not leave pf in power once heard.however the bad seeds sown will germinate and flower for the worste in short times to come . god save zambia as we pray for the innocent president in police cells. amen.

  59. HH and his companions should not have been charged with the alleged charge of treason as suggested/conjectured by the powers that be. We need a DPP who is objective and impartial insofar as to weigh the pros and cons of the current case and, any relevant decision to prosecute or to decline to prosecute should be based on tendered facts, not on wishes of persons whose desires are underpinned by hate and malicious intentions. It is very apparent that the powers that be are in a hurry to screw an innocent man(HH) for selfish political gains without focusing on the legality of their actions. It appears that investigating officers are not impartial thus far. I am not approaching this case with blinkers, but the opposite holds truth. Facts first not the other way round. Thanks.

  60. Which dictator?
    You mean parliament is a dictator?

    The issue at play is the law, and if you break the law you will account.

    These laws are made by parliament and enforced by law enforcers.

    Now, who is the dictator you are referring to, is it the parliament or the law enforcers or the law breaker?

    • No, disobeying highway code is not a crime.

      But it is crime to threaten someone’s life using a vehicle.

      You can use a vehicle to commit a crime as you drive.

      If you use a care to kill a person by driving into them it is a crime.

      This why those guys who drive into buildings of crowds of people in Europe are not charge with failure to obey highway code.

      Instead they are charged with tourism, and are tried as such.

      You can also be charged with the crime of causing death if your park your in such a way as to abstract motorists.

      And if it is observed that you intentionally chose to park your car or place any object that is intended or can be perceived to be intended to cause harm to the presidential motorcade you will be charged with case of treason.

      The case of…

    • The case of treason will not be different from someone who wanted to use any other weapon because it is not the type of weapon used that determines treason charge but the intent.

  61. I cant wait to hear how upnd cadres will react next week after the DPP gives a consent for HH’s treason charge to go ahead.Mrs Siyuni (DPP) will be called names like hell because with the overwhelming evidence from mongu saga,its very clear that DPP will give a go ahead and that will expose her to insults.to upnd,all top Govnt officials are bad,corrupt and PF cadres-amazing!!what upnd forget is that all those laws in our constitution are passed in parliament.HENCE,MPs who pass those laws are dictators and not ECL!!

    • @ Njimbu. Even if trial goes ahead, the fire will catch ur chakolwa. Everythng is in the pipeline, my dear.

      Days of our leaders being hanged while we stand aside & watch are long gone. We fight fire with fire.

  62. For some time now ECL was seen as a weak President, now that he is exercising his powers, the sons and daughters of the defeated Satan are crying day in day out. ECL has brought sanity to Zambia within the 2 years he has been a leader. Examples are many, however the key ones are; the bringing of a national day of prayers, the elimination of the cartel, the disciplining of Membe and his Post Newspaper, the disciplining of Nchito, the arraigning of Guy Scott and Raja Manthani, the disciplining of Belinda, GBM etc. Just recently he has disciplined the CEO of Privatization in Zambia (HH). This time around GOD has continuously denied HH and Valentine Chitalu, to ascend to power simply because of what they did to his people during the period of privatization. There is always pay back time in…

    • But Zambia is full of fontiniz. Reading thru some blogs, one is left wondering if it’s our education system or its genetic . Just read the above blog by stanely laban.

    • It’s people like 69goodyear and Nkosavuta, who would like to pay a blind eye to the atrocities that HH and his colleagues, like Valentine Chitalu committed in respect of privatization, that you want to give the man the mantle to State House. Like I said above our Almighty GOD had long seen through their trickery. They should first apologise before GOD to have any further stake to the majority of people of Zambia. Many parastatal employees died as a result of their actions in the privatization process and as for those who are still alive, most of them got a raw deal, however, they have continued to pray to the Almighty GOD that HH should never rule Zambia. Only solution for HH is to apologise, and bow before GOD and openly ask GOD for deliverance. If you think I am kidding keep watching…

  63. I once read a poetic disposition of Africa the continent. Might as well have been an accurate account of a poltically, culturally, morally and constitutionally moribund and dysfuntional Zambia.It was titled AFRICA IS MADE OF CLAY. It is indeed disheartening that everyday we have have to waken to prayers for Civil chaos, lawlessness,mayhem and unfarthomable human carnage all because tribal resentment is deeply seated in One Zambia, Many nations !Wake up people, your children cannot growup like they are in Somalia. Time to take stock and return to civility. Strife is knocking, are you going to allow it in?

  64. The lead driver of HH’s convoy breached the Highway Code. Police are also incompetent for failing to clear the route in advance for President Lungu as they should have done.

    The rest of this nonsense is childish and an embarrassment to the nation

  65. @Wanzelu, what tribe is that name? Obviously its meaning is not the same as “brains” in the eastern lingo. It should mean something like “donkey droppings” in your language.

    • Terrible. I am from Northern and Copperbelt and I do not support Lungu’s actions. He is embrassing our country. First he rigs and ignores the constitution everyone is watch so now investors think Zambia is lawlessness and risk for their money because the police or state institutions are useless. Second, he gets sworn in by a registrar and not chief justice. Now he send criminals and thugs to teargas HH’s wife, children, robs and destorys his house then arrest him. I think I might start thinking of renownsing my citizenship. Its shame to all Zambians to have such an incompetent and fraudulent person as leader of the country focused on HH not the things that matter to Zambians

  66. Time to take back the mines from foreign ownership. Time to scrap the debt. Elections have to be publicly funded and it has to be a crime for a politician to get donations from anyone other than their state provided funds.

    The politicians condescend to the electorate because they have different masters.

    President Lungu states that now is the time to focus on ‘developing the country’. He can’t even come up with an original platitude.

  67. Terrible, you are a tribalist because you keep bringing up pipos name and relating it to a tribe then saying how they should vote.
    Cant you see that you are not helping but then again thats what you are paid to do

  68. Well spoken Mr. President. Please tell the diplomats that their countries should not give aid to Zambia. This interfers with the financial sovereignty of the country.

  69. Sadly democracy is not understood by Zambians. We’ve seen the same behaviour by ECL exhibited by FTJ, LPM and RB. We’ve remained fixated with the one party state, which seems to be our standard. ECL might go but the next president will just use the same powers to undermine democracy. The question we should ask is why there’re no functioning checks and balances? Why cardres rule the roost, while MPs are absentee representatives? We have to think far beyond just ECL. Our systems are broken and they’ve been for a long time. We lack and elite class with ideas and focus. Let’s not entirely blame ECL.

  70. @75.1 Nkosavuta Kukamba,

    You are asking, “But is it treason to disobey the Highway Code (even if HH was driving which he was not)?”

    Well, answer is simple:
    No, disobeying highway code is not a crime.

    But it is crime to threaten someone’s life using a vehicle.

    You can use a vehicle to commit a crime as you drive.

    If you use a care to kill a person by driving into them it is a crime.

    This why those guys who drive into buildings of crowds of people in Europe are not charge with failure to obey highway code.

    Instead they are charged with tourism, and are tried as such.

    You can also be charged with the crime of causing death if your park your in such a way as to abstract motorists.

    • And if it is observed that you intentionally chose to park your car or place any object that is intended or can be perceived to be intended to cause harm to the presidential motorcade you will be charged with case of treason.

      The case of treason will not be different from someone who wanted to use any other weapon because it is not the type of weapon used that determines treason charge but the intent.

      Take for instance, you were merely hagging and greeting your friend on the highway.

      If the the presidential motorcade was coming and sweepers order you to clear off the road and you willfully chose to refuse and continue hagging and greeting, in the name of “I met my friend long time ago, so we can just stop hagging so suddenly”, you will endanger the life of the president…

    • And in this case, just like HH you will have chosen to willfully endanger the life of the president and national security.

      If they don’t clear you as mandated (as the normal case should), they will pick you up and charge you with treason.

      You cannot then say, “ah, these people, what is their problem? They are dictators, when did hagging become treason, and merely refusing to move out of the road treasonable?”

      If you manage to say the above, then you have an outstanding skill of “performing art”.

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