President Edgar Lungu says those with evidence or any useful information about fire tenders must come forward and those charged with the responsibility to investigate must show interest in the matter.
“There has been an outcry about the recently acquired fire trucks and I think that those charged with the responsibility to investigate must show interest in the matter”
Speaking when he addressed Zambian’s Living in the United State of America at Salvation Army International Social Justice Commission in New York yesterday, President Lungu charged that he is not corrupt and will not be intimidated by accusations of corruption as he carries out his duties.
“I know also that whenever a tender is given to one person the other loser raises questions, but since there is a lot of protests over this one those with information of wrong doing must come forward” President Lungu said.
what a waste of oxygen… take information to ACC which is part of you and you control it? You can F.OOL some people sometime but you can’t F.OOL all the people all the time
yaba abena nostradamus mwatusebanya. the man was right infront of you and you failed us. busy clapping. fron today onwards we dont want to hear your warrior prowessness of defending truth and justice behind an annoynmous name yet in the face of a real adversory muletotafye. yaba, its a shame!!!! there is no hope for zambians. all the nonsense we say behind the keyboards is just gibberish. we cant really act.
This proves that President Lungu has nothing to hide.
Of the people that tendered the company given were the right company, it’s as simple as that.
If you have a problem, honestly you can kiss my behind. I’m sick and tired of this unnecessary emphasis on this minuscule tender.
I hold a PhD
Thanks
BB2014,2016
I think what the President is saying is true. Stop insulting the President. if you have the evidence please bring it forward like CK said he has evidence. Chishimba kabwili and anyone else can now bring their evidences forward. if the President fail to act on them then at that point you can insult him. Zambian we have a bad habit of talking without evidence.
What a country…..
@Kolwe, yes especially women were clapping too much. Me I wanted Kapyongo to respond to that Firetrucks question, but Ba Harry said awe bane mulekeni umunenu. So I used too much short time with Ba Harry discussing manganese in Mansa.
You see when Edgar is among good guys like Ba Kapambwe, Ba Harry, becomes likeable.
I didn’t see Kaizer, I had action for him.
Good call. The figures make sense if one looks at what Chilufya Tayali quoted.
HH is still dreaming of being President and those UNPD followers are rabid! 2021 headline, HH FLOUNDERS FOR THE 6TH TIME!
Bonkani Zulu was seated next to lungu at kusefya pa ngwena ceremony.
A few days later Bokani Zulu was awarded the contract for the small fire engines.
When u see a lot of Flies around someone, just know that someone has sh1tted in his pants.
IT’S A FAIR CALL – YOU WONDER WHY THE UPND FOLKS WANT TO DEVELOP COLD FEET WHEN ASKED TO CALL FOR LEGAL REDRESS.
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Should we fold our arms and hail unsubstantiated corruption calls when asked to come forth with what you have, you go hiding like koswes in their holes. If the ACC is not functioning, take ’em to task. The UPND has blamed the ECZ, the POLICE, the JUDICARY, the PARLIAMENT, ZNBC, the ZAMBIAN PEOPLE etc. This time they are hailing disparaging remarks at the ACC. These cowards are too much. These ch(a)ps with heavy hearts, awe sure.
the president is bluffing and taking us Zambians for fools like his cadres. Not so long the president came out chest out to a conference claiming his ministers where corrupt eventually leading to the dismissal of chishimba kambwili, no that a considerable amout of time has elapsed with no fruitful direction to his corruption case no head way has been made except drunken statements of bitterness from the likes of chiteme and madam side chick information minister. so was bitterness the reason kambwili was fired??? so this call for investigation by the president should be taken for a joke.
the president is bluffing and taking us Zambians for f**ls like his cadres. Not so long the president came out chest out to a conference claiming his ministers where corrupt eventually leading to the dismissal of chishimba kambwili, no that a considerable amout of time has elapsed with no fruitful direction to his corruption case no head way has been made except drunken statements of bitterness from the likes of chiteme and madam side chick information minister. so was bitterness the reason kambwili was fired??? so this call for investigation by the president should be taken for a joke.
Oh please Jonathan, just sit down, shut up and finish beer
1million dollar per fire tender and you are not sure if there was a wrong doing. Ba controlling offer sure…
@Mushota I see you did not travel to meet Presido in New York! Nick can’t afford to subsidize your travel and its only Blackpool and Edinburgh for summer holidays for you! You would have given us a more first-hand blow by blow account! And perhaps, you would have supplied any evidence required!
This guy thinks you are fools. Are you?
This guy thinks you are f.ools. Are you?
Yes let those with info report to ACC!!
Indeed no need to be disturbed by bitter opposition leaders who never voted for PF!!!
Many people shall appreciate your good works later and not now.so just keep on fulfilling 2016 campaign promises Mr President!!
They say “ulelila tabamucheba ku kanwa”.hence,ignore cry babies in opposition!!
@Njimbu, am sure those are first firetrucks you have seen. Ifwe kuno we see them daily, because of accidents or rescuing cats in trees.
Those made by Bokani Zulu are small, $90,000 value.
Ba Lungu should also sue Bokani Zulu who is claiming his business partner.
“I know also that whenever a tender is given to one person the other loser raises questions, but since there is a lot of protests over this one those with information of wrong doing must come forward” President Lazy said.
Only when its not transparent – how can Lazy Lungu even say this?
A lot of protests from the usual protesters. We know them. They started protesting prior to the 8/11 polls. They will die protesting. Icaho ichi!
Really laughable..its like putting a monkey to investigate rampant theft in a maize field which wall fenced and surrounded by trees.
Do you really need people to come forward when the evidence is right in front you like how this company qualified for the $40m tender. This is what happens when stealing is the norm.
What a hypocrite!!!
Yet he is there reading a speech at the UN on how to fight poverty in Africa…really laughable..maybe he is thinking about loans and more Eurobonds.
We all know whistle blowers are greatly punished in Zambia. Ask the last ACC CEO.
CK has blown the whistle saying he has evidence am the evidence is good enough to start a case here. No need for more evidence
@MyZambia
That’s cowardice of the highest order. Don’t say we all know, its only you who knows. You lie between your teeth.
@5.1 Musonda kateule
Who are you waiting for “to start a case”. Even CK can file a lawsuit. HH went to the Concourt without evidence, now, that is dangerous. No prima facie facie here only illusions.
Zambians need to learn from Kenya and make institutions truly independent by amending how the heads of these organisations are appointed. Why should ACC and ZP be waiting on the President to give the go ahead.
My evidence is there are same spec trucks for half that price , some of the cheaper tenders were for same specs with minor adjustments…..
Spaka boyi, local prices quoted for items sold in the UK or SA are different from prices for export. I import products into Zambia and I was forced to open an office in JHB and London because the prices I was quoted when I told the supplies that I was in Zambia were about 20% higher than what I now get since I now have local contacts.
Yuma
At the end of the day some one needs to stand up and say enough is enough, GRZ is only prepared to pay so much…….as things are now it is a free for all , mana from heaven, only it is the future of Zambia being scavenged……
Yuma a fire truck is no different to any lorry when it comes to freight.
just like the opposition, ATI waste of oxygen right after the Government told them to take whatever griviencies they had to the ACC. to the opposition everything is controlled by the PF, you explain to them ati a petition takes 14days ATI let the petition be heard, fine report your case to Kim Jong-un president of North Korea if you like
#HHLIES
Transgender jo, how can they report to Kim jong when kalaba has put his nose in it telling him to stop firing missiles ?
That’s the way to set aside a hot matter. The police and ACC are impotent.
So, we know his answer that the ACC investigated and there is no case.
Waste of time to even think the ACC will tackle the matter to the bone.
Then go and hung yourselves because you are just making noise here. How else do you want to clear your confusion. No prima facie case here. Ask Mushipe and Mwibu to help you that is if you have Mula, it’s not for free you know.
Bring in a cross party board to investigate this……ee all know what happened to kaizer Zulus case at ACC…..
Spaka, you know that that will require a budget or some form of funding. Where will that money come from. Anyway, parley has some parliamentary committee arrangements.
Was this audience PF Cadres in New York or Zambians in New York?
The president is right let us see how that one million dollars was spent on one truck each , I can see some gaps in this case since you can’t buy 42trucks from one dealer and never get a discount.
This is questionable to any observer, it is not practical 42 trucks no discount , at a million dollars is a terrible mistake to make.
The actual cost was $1,300,000 per truck but a discount of $300,000 was negotiated.
What a Joke? A hypocite and a Vote and Money Thief investigating himself? He is now trying to cover up .Who doesn’t know that ECL is the most corrupt President in the World? Its not a Secret that as a practicing lawyer Lungu stole a client’s money and got de-registered by LAZ? Becoz of massive stealing Lungu is now a millionaire. The fish rots from the Head downwards.
Let Lungu tell us how he went from being COMPLETELY BROKE to having 2.3 MILLION US DOLLARS in his bank account in ONE YEAR!
The EVIDENCE is there for everybody to see – WRITTEN ON HIS NOMINATION FORM BY HIMSELF!
Lungu is a lier….he complains that investigations only seem to start on his say so…….so why don’t you replace those heads at ACC if they are not proactive???
You will not replace them because you lungu controls them.
A serious president would have suspended all those involved the procurement of equipment and then instituted investigation. But instead he is already challenging those with evidence to come forward. You have the whole government machinery to investigate and you are challenging people with evidence especially that one of your close associate soko is involved. But lishamo pa “Z” ukukwata chaps like this one as a president. Zambia is just a cursed country mwee.
How many times will he suspend? How many accusations come up? Since he is also accused will he suspend himself? You do not spend your team at an accusation. You need to establish a case … before yoi start suspensions …
The company is just very new to win such tenders. It was formed merely to to help the president and his thieving cabinet to milk the little hard earned money that the few tax payers cough through their noses. Poor civil servants and our hard working poor farmers are suffering and yet they buy such machines when they are the ones who bring tension in the country by arresting people without cause. Time is coming when you will be made to account all the money stollen.
No one wants to talk about that…this whole thing is wrong!!
What evidence do you need? These company was formed specifically for this tender. The owners of the company do not produce fire tenders, hence subcontracted the supply to someone else. These chaps have no experience whatsoever and yet they got the bid. Of course, you defending your fellow thieves.
What a bellend this Lungu guy has become! People are questioning how a simple fire tender can cost $1million. He reckons that is ok for a company be formed and offered a tender worth millions of dollars in the same year! How can you purchase fire tenders with the same exact specifications? You send a fire tender designed for use on tall buildings to Nchelenge, how many tall buildings are in Nchelenge? waste of resources is foolish!
The first step is to acknowledge that there maybe a problem since there is so much outcry, and the next is to appoint an independent body ( no party affiliations), to investigate this issue. I get the feeling that Lungu is already getting defensive about this and he probably knows who is responsible for the extravagance.
Yes the president is right let those with evidence make citizen arrest or report the matter to police or to ACC they have been given a chance to do so.
Why Zambian politicians behave like that they can only see wrong doing when they fall out of favor from the president
Kambwili,mulongoti, nalumango ,nawakwi, george mpombo, to mention some few but when in the government as minister they can’t see wrong doing. mainy of them behave the same.
When one day Lungu decide to drop kapamba mulenga you Will see how she will go againest the President believe me fellow Zambian.
Mr President, Chishimba Kambwili told us that he has the quotations from the same company which supplied the 42 fire trucks. I think this is evidence enough to verify what exactly happened. We all know were CK stays, so get the quotations from him simple.
How can you take the voice of one bitter failed expelled politician for his word? CK told us this, CK told us that. Look who is talking. That same President you are addressing here just fired the hell outa CK. He is the reason these late revelation has come to the fore. Now since this looks like an emotional game on the part of CK the blackmailer, it is playing well in the hands of hallucinating UPND folks. Sorry, this sounds rude but right on point.
Kapondo its not not just the quotations. Its also meeting the technical requirements the buyer wants. Why is Zambia so full of dull people? Is it because teachers forge their qualifications?
Mr President, great that you are indicating interest in this matter but for you to say that those that have the evidence should come forward is trying to avoid the matter, unless you SIR demand the truth nothing will happen we all know that. Why not just instruct those with the ‘responsibility to investigate’ to do their job and give us results. This country will never go anywhere when leaders fail to do the right thing.
Do you think the president has a problem with $1000000 valued truck? Vincent Mwale is cabinet member and this could not have gone through without cabinet knowledge. He is saying that if you, Sacks Ngwele, thinks there is something fishy going on here, take that step (with helpful information) and present your case to relevant investigative wings.
Thorn….
You mean the same investigative wings that stoped kiezer zulus corruption case on instructions from lungu ??
Ba sir ba Spaka, unless you arm twist ECL to form a special taskforce. You know how thing plays out. In your heart of hearts, is it in ECL’s interest to do that?
Thorn I can see you are somewhat sitting on the fence here, some of us are protesting for good governance in Zambia, this has nothing to do with UPND, half of that money could have been put to better use…..how many schools would $20 million build ? this 1 million dollar truck is an outrage and should be seen as such what ever party you support.
Chishimba kambwili where are you ? Your take on this pleas ?
They are saying you are telling lies…….
Now that’s powerful spaka, you are now getting it. That’s my point. I bet you on your life CK will play go into hiding on this issue.
You see, when allegations are made if there is overwhelming evidence for a case it is an automatic prima facie. Careful with bitter lots. They will mislead you and disappear in thin air.
There you CK, prove your case! I am waiting.
Yes indeed Thorn , this will show kambwili what he really is…..either someone with facts and can he show investigations with a direction…. or is he a bitter disgruntled lier to be dismissed immediately he opens his mouth…..
Mr kambwili we await your input sir.. …….
Kambwili does not need to say anything…..its all here…..they stole $20 million..
www google.co.uk/amp/s/www.crawleyhappytimes.co.uk/new-state-of-the-art-fire-engine-for-crawley/amp/
But he is saying that knowing that evidence is difficult to be provided in such cases. But surely assuming there was no corruption, is it surely sensible to spend money in such a manner. 9 billion kwacha unrebased currency on one fire tender
If CK does not prove his case the all time low approval ratings for him will be -1,000,000.
CK must have held Government under siege. His behavior is tantamount to a serious possessed blackmailer obsessed with Government contracts. Watch this space.
That is right Thorn
We agree on this one…..if kambwili does not prove his case he must be dismissed with disdain by us the public, for causing panic.
Kambwili does not need to say anything…..its all here…..they stole $20 million..
www google.co.uk/amp/s/www.crawleyhappytimes.co.uk/new-state-of-the-art-fire-engine-for-crawley/amp/
Waist of time…….
@1 so called engineer, so if you cannot take the evidence to ACC because it is part of President Lungu, so what are you gonna do then, shut up? Yes shut up! What kind of engineer are you? A U.PNDonkey masquerading as engineer?
The whole fire tender saga was brought up by Under5 and his U.PNDonkeys timed to embarrass THE President. Sorry Donkeys, President Trump did not even hear about it. Trump does not have the time to waste like under5 shooting everywhere in an international community which is either unwilling to listen to time wasters or has no time to waste.
Why, even British Prime Minister Theresa May did not want to listen. So muletipo shani ba ka under5? Sorry no State House for you in my lifetime!
If you can spend 1 million on a fire truck then go begging for aid at the UN ofcourse you should be embarrassed
Well done president
Shameless man resign on moral grounds let bo inonge finish your term the best you could have done was institute reforms abolish cardism
The alternative view is for the manufacturer itself to accept responsibility for supplying equipment at an exorbitant price. It is a question of integrity. It is also a question of business ethics and best practices. The cost of public equipment should remain within reasonable parameters.
That’s correct sir. In fact west European companies don’t usually accept bribes.
The manufacturers will quote the correct price and it will be found it would have saved GRZ 300,000 per truck going direct to the manufacturer…that is where the corruption is.
You should start writing mystery novels in the style of Agatha Christy or James Hadley Chase. You’ve got an “answer ” to everything.
Ndanji
It’s called common sense and morals fit for leadership …….not these chawama pit latrine morals you pf people have….
Zambia is indeed a failed state. Zambians need to learn from Kenya. Kenyans are brave people to say the least
What evidence is Lungu looking for, a quick search online reveals those trucks cost around $300,000 and shipping them would be a fraction of the cost and insurance is only a small amount. A town in London spent 10 million pounds for 42 truck, South Africa also spent only 12 to 13 million for 28 trucks. Lungu must be taking us for a joke. We ship cars all the time to Zed and this deal doesn’t make sense. A quick online search will show you that this is a bad deal
What was the budgeted price per vehicle? What are the comparator prices in Z and SADC? If good and lower priced bids were eliminated for not submitting required documents, was this a critical factor if the country was to save $30 million? Who in his right mind approved this procurement? What are the critical lessons to learn and avoid such loss?
Shu shu shu – When some one gets a quotation for similar things what specification do you want. He is saying that the same company which sold the same make of vehicles gave a different prices. So what specification. Olo mula defender. This matter can only better be investigated once these chaps are out of power not now because the people involved are Lungu’s business associates.
Go to the back and ask for the electronic transfer of these funds to the suppliers. this will confirm how much actually left the country. We can then take the company to task for laundering money on behalf of individuals and this will be a serious case in Europe.
This is amounting to a serious citizens outcry……if Mr lungu is not guilty of this corruption he must form a cross party commission to investigate this…dont make the mistake of sweeping this outcry from a large part of the population under the carpet as was the case with the petition which resulted in a serious division in the country.
Mr lungu if you are not corrupt form a commission of enquiry. It will not cost you anything.. …
@33 Spaka lilke lilo, ba U.PNDonkey naimwe mulebako serious limo limo nangu muli ba Donkey. What commission of inquiry which will be different from ACC? The commission of inquiry will be appointed by the same President who appoints the ACC and other such bodies, are you going to accept it? The answer is a big NO! Because we know the behaviour of Donkeys now, we know that it will take at least two years of debate on the suitability of the members appointed. If you do accept the appointments, you will certainly NOT accept the result if it favours President Lungu, didn’t we go through the elections and the “petitions” both of which the Donkeys failed to accept? Someone please tell the U.PNDonkeys that we live in a real world where everything is time bound!
Ba terrible mu chemble….
“…didn’t we go through the elections and the “petitions” both of which the Donkeys failed to accept? …”
The petitions were not heard naimwe ba chembele…..and if lungu does not commission some sort of enquiry our calling him a thief will grow louder…….even more ammunition for our online petitions to show PF corruption……
…… even more ammunition for our online petitions to show PF corruption…And abuse of doner aid funds……i don’t think western tax payers will be happy to see their tax money in the form of foringe aid being abused like this without any concrete explanations….
CK take your evidence there and lets see if you are man enough to stand by your words. Not just yapping and yapping!
Ifikopo imwe!
Year: 2012
Avon Fire and Rescue has brought into service six new fire engines at a cost of £2.4m.
The service’s decision to replace some of the vehicles was approved two years ago by the Avon Fire Authority.
Chief Fire Officer Kevin Pearson said: “They’re lighter, shorter and more compact which makes them easier to manoeuvre and have better capability.”
The new appliances will be based at Bath and Weston-super-Mare, Temple and Avonmouth.
Two of the engines cost £500,000 each and are the first of their kind in the UK, Avon Fire and Rescue said.
Some of the new features of these two engines include an on-board stretcher, on-board generator and a 27m ladder.
The other engines, which each cost just under £340,000, have specialist equipment for road traffic accidents…
Contd…
The other engines, which each cost just under £340,000, have specialist equipment for road traffic accidents in addition to the standard fire engine equipment.
The fire service said the new engines will mean fewer staff need to be deployed because of the improved capability.
What does the manufacturer say is his price? And why was the contract awarded to zero-experienced third party instead of going for the OEM?
If each truck cost USD1m, with full specs, how can that be acceptable when some of our so called towns are basically villages not warranting the full spec geared truck? How can a fire tender for say, Chama cost the same as that for say, Ndola, or for Lusaka? This was immature and a pure waste of money. It shows that those responsible for making the “buy” decision are not fit to be in those offices.
That is what we don’t understand…..they are selling things not needed in that spec in most places , that are overpriced
The bricklayer from Australia now Germany is wasting air.
The news story above is dated17 September 2012. It is from the fire service in Bristol, England. The make of truck is M.A.N. For the sake of thick headed U.PNDonkeys I will explain a few basic things.
1. At that time rate of exchange £1:$1.5
i.e. £500,000×1.5= $750,000 per truck.
2. £340,000×1.5=$510,000 per truck.
3. These are unit costs in the UK, before insurance, freight etc. Add insurance & freight (1) becomes 1.75x $750,000=$1,312,000 each and (2) becomes
$510,000×1.75=$893,000 each.
4. Add inflation and or cost escalation for 5 years since 2012.
5. For the case under debate add profit margin.
6. If you require further information please contact the Chief Fire Officer Kevin Pearson, he may still be the Chief.
7. Google “cost of fire engine uk”
Surely even U.PNDonkeys…
Even an *****.te knows prices of products drop with time iwe kawalala……..a computer bought 4 years ago is almost half the price now….who are you trying to cheat iwe sake ?
Unless you are telling us those scania trucks have space technology…..
@HaJayJay, thinks if you are not from Namwala then you are “Lazy!” Shallow mind! HH removed HaJayJay’s skull and used Ebu, Lifebuoy and Dambo to wash his brain then put the skull back! Brainwashed by HH!
Contd…
Surely even U.PNDonkeys thick and empty headed as they are cannot dispute this. If not clear please ask under5 to explain to you, that is if he is a real economist.
Ocean City Council Approves Purchase of $1.1 Million Fire Truck
By Donald Wittkowski –
September 15, 2017
Brainwashed by HH with Dambo, Ebu and Lifebuoy, please google this story it just happened less than a week ago in the U.S.
“….In an interview after the Council meeting, Mallon explained that the truck’s 107-foot-high boom arm is needed to fight high-rise fires that could strike the taller hotels and condominiums in town…”
What randy Sharon fails to understand is the kapirimposhi or chipata does not have sky scrapers…….understando ?
“….In an interview after the Council meeting, Mallon explained that the truck’s 107-foot-high boom arm is needed to fight high-rise fires that could strike the taller hotels and condominiums in town…”
What randy Sharon fails to understand is the kapirimposhi or chipata does not have sky scrapers……. ?
“….In an interview after the Council meeting, Mallon explained that the truck’s 107-foot-high boom arm is needed to fight high-rise fires that could strike the taller hotels and condominiums in town…”
What horny Sharon fails to understand is the kitwe or chipata does not have sky scrapers?
“….In an interview after the Council meeting, Mallon explained that the truck’s 107-foot-high boo.m arm is needed to fight high-rise fires that could strike the taller hotels and condo.miniums in town…”
What randy Sharon fails to understand is the kapirimposhi or chipata does not have sky scrapers…….understando ?
@34.1 Spaka like lilo, please don’t “ba chembele” me, especially if that means someone who is so thick that they don’t understand that a petition has 14 days life span by law.
UP.NDonkeys, for the articles above, please don’t argue with Terrible or Sharon, google for yourselves you Donkeys!
Like I said before, these U.PNDonkeys really don’t believe their own arguments. It was just their customary way of trying to embarrass the Ptesident while he is at the UN General Assembly. Somehow these Donkeys think that the international community has time for Donkeys.
I like the President’s cool, he seems to understand the U.PNDonkeys very well.
Terrible don’t run away from this debate go to #49 or Google “New state of the art fire engine for Crawley”
You will see a higher spec scania costing
£280,000…….
We wait for your feedback
Thank you # Harold Muna
Sunday Chanda you are trying hard to defend the PF corruption that makes corruption in RB’S regime look like kids play
Google:
Bridgeport gets new $1.1 million fire truck
Daniel Tepfer
Updated 8:52 pm, Thursday, November 15, 2012
And you call your self a consultant ? Can you compare that truck in the US that has 100 foot long ladder, 6 tires 4 which are back exil with those tu ma scania??
Consultant for stalking HH indeed….
People need to wake up!! 1m Dollars for a truck….. nowhere on earth but Zambia… why?? Coz We are blind, ignorant and and led by a dull leader
Here is a piece of news from the UK on 20th July 2015;
“Firefighting in Crawley has been boosted by the introduction of a new state of the art fire engine into its fleet.
The high-tech P320-CP31 Scania, costing around £280,000, replaces an old Water Tender Ladder at Crawley Fire Station and is part of West Sussex Fire & Rescue Service’s on-going investment into upgrading its operational fleet”.
Are our 42 Scania trucks worth more? What model are they?
Show those 2 theives randy Sharon and be chembele be terrible……they seem to be creating their own fuzzy dunnuna maths…..
Ba chembele ba terrible and randy Sharon want to try some dunnuna reverse maffs on us…….only we know better.
Why do you have to wait for the president to conduct an investigation? Why are Zambians so docile it’s embarrassing.
Because all investigative wings are corrupted by lungu…..
simple calls if you have evidence report ,Again if you feel its a waste of time then dont complain and dont comment otherwise unless you re a fool,its not always about politic of pull him down no lets change our mind set
Guys check the cost of those truck as uncovered by Harold Muna @ 49 or Google
“New state of the art fire engine for Crawley”
You will see that model if not a better model costing $380, 000. Not those US trucks used for skyscrapers terrible and Sharon are trying to convince us about even adding some dunnuna maffs ba terrible….
Guys check the cost of those truck as uncovered by Harold Muna @ 49 or Go.ogle
“New state of the art fire engine for Crawley”
You will see that model if not a better model costing $380, 000. Not those US trucks used for skyscrapers terrible and Sharon are trying to convince us about even adding some dunnuna maths ba terrible….
Look at posting @49 The true cost of those trucks is $430,000 including shipping and insurance.. …
Case closed….
Is there evidence tgat these actually came from spain….i notice china has scanja fire trucks for sale.
Is it possible trucks only shipped from spain but came from somewhere else… scania spain diesnt seen to make trucks and most fire truck have chassis and egine bought fron scania, man iveco etc then a bodybilder fits it out
Pipo need to see shipping documents and letters of credit,,,, who guaranteed and paid deposit for grandview
Bwana big words, Mr. Mpombo, quoted from Tumfweko, you do not possess the wide wisdom of Zambians who are not loud mouthed like you are. There is need to put this matter in the correct perspective, punish all those who sign documents with their eyes closed and those who undertook the evaluation as well as approving authorities. That is the only way people will begin to respect public office by learning hard lessons
Zambia is rotten to the core with corruption. For every transaction someone somewhere wants to have a cut hence inflating the prices. We see wrongs as rights. We are building a very dangerous society. Not until we change our mind sets we are doomed as a country. We need a leader like Mwanawasa to set a no nonsense tone, its not too late Lungu, you can be this leader!
Clever way to clai “I was not involved” but we know- we have an idea.
Zambia and zimbabwe examples of old style socialism whereby the majority poor keep being promised they are working hard for the betterment of the nation when the ruling elite are laughing all the way to their hidden bank accounts and their hangerons get the scraps from the feeding trough……..are you hungry terrible, sharon, kudos et sl do any of you know how to spell PROUD . Zambia once a proud nation once a nation of proud united pipo
Pf intelligentsia b4 you blame HH now as you all post he has failed 6 times before but on the previous times zambia has never sunk tnis low ask yourselves the difference this time…. i dont blame HE ECL i blame the madame wina for her actions in kabwe…
@ 10 nshilimubemba – The Government was dealing with a local supply, it is the local supplier who can ask for a discount from the main supplier of which may be it was given. When preparing tender documents there is a Bid Submission Form were the buyer asks for a discount so it is either you give discount or not, unless if the Government was negotiating direct from the manufacturer which is not the case. If the government starts buying direct the all business community will collapse as the Government is the main buyer and source of income to most of the suppliers.
Opportunity for our CK to present his evidence. We know that if if if the investigation draws a blank, Chishimba shall not be convinced because he has a preconceived mind. To him the players in this Fire Tender issue are guilty of corruption. Let us learn to look for response rather than a Yes or No.
There is no smoke without fire and you know it Lungu that you are corruptly involved in this issue. By the way, who are going to be members of the commission of inquiry? Fellow corrupt crooks appointed by yourself?
Time is coming when you will sweat.
Check fire trucks at alibaba. They cost much less than a million 🙁