Opposition leader Hakainde Hichilema has been invited to speak at the at The Royal Institute of International Affairs in London, UK, commonly known as The Chatham House next Tuesday 31st October,2017.
Mr Hichilema confirmed that he has been specifically asked to discuss the UPND priorities, support required for opposition political parties and the role of the parties in ensuring that Zambia’s democracy is preserved.
The Chatham House was named the top non-U.S. think tank by Foreign Policy Magazine.
In the University of Pennsylvania’s 2015 Global Think Tanks Report, Chatham House is ranked the second most influential think tank in the world after the Brookings Institution.
According to a notice on its website, the discussion will be chaired by Alex Vines, Director of its Area Studies and International Law who also Heads its Africa Programme.
It says at this meeting, Hakainde Hichilema will discuss his UPND priorities, how to strengthen opposition parties and their role in Zambia’s democratic future.
In Zambia’s 2016 national election, the Patriotic Front (PF) was re-elected by a narrow margin.
The PF’s Edgar Lungu secured 50.35 per cent of the vote according to the Electoral Commission of Zambia, narrowly avoiding a second round, while his main rival, Mr. Hichilema, won 47.67 per cent.
The UPND, led by Mr Hichilema, alleges electoral fraud and has challenged the result in the courts and through direct protests.
Mr Hichilema was imprisoned for over 100 days.
I can’t wait for some simple minds talk sense.
@Katondo boys, why you subotaged my comments? Do you really want to dare me? You people easily forget.
Put HH vs ECL to debate and see who will win.
As usual he will just go and talk rubbish about a country he wish to lead one day.
HH is no better than Kadansa . . . .
He can speak at wherever he wants. It won’t just be from State House, Zambia!
…and such overrated Chatham House pitching expeditions are increasingly becoming unpopular, useless and curse in the eyes of voters across our African nations states in pursuit of own destiny. Lesson learned, the Kenyan Samurai aka Odinga has just returned from the same meeting at Chatham House. I believe the elections are on in Kenya tomorrow after he disemboweled himself politically by making a useless boycott and being told such institutions will prevail on his behalf.
I am from UK and I have NEVER heard of Chatham
Pathetic trolling
Thanks
BB2014,2016
He should not go There is cholera in Zambia. Besides he will just go and dent our image further. He does not mean well.
AT LEAST HE HAS AVOIDED BEING INFECTED WITH DICTATORSHIP.
If Zambia had people like HH as politicians at independence, Zambia would never have won its independence. Even the Choma declaration would not have happened even in the face of the death of millions. HH still wants to win the approval of white people. HH thinks he is white.
“YOU WILL KNOW THEM BY THE PEOPLE THEY ASSOCIATE WITH”
FIRST WAS MMAIMANE IN RSA AND NOW CHATHAM HOUSE
AND YET hh WOULD NOT ATTEND INDEPENDENCE CELEBRATIONS
HAKAINDE IS STILL HALLUCINATING
ZAMBIANS WILL NEVER ALLOW HIM TO RULE
Mushota, please, please, try to be intelligent or you are overwhelmed by dishonesty. Are you sure about not knowing Chatham House, the Royal Institute of International Affairs, an independent policy institute based in London. Their mission is to help build a sustainably secure, prosperous and just world.
@Mushota,
Don’t be lazy like your known PF, just look it up under “The Royal Institute of International Affairs in London, UK”.
BTW, you will do Zambia a service, if you could attend that presentation if anything challenge or question HH. Its high time you people stopped hiding behind your computers and make a contribution equivalent to your education.
I am not going to ask people to “Push RED or GREEN” as you normally do, but I will ask you to take up the challenge. Until Tuesday, you have sufficient time to prepare and plan.
I should like to congratulate Mr Hakainde Hichilema for winning the elections in his personal party UPND for a third term as President. Mr Hichilema won an overwhelming 100% + 1 in the elections that were held recently in accordance with the UPND Constitution which is widely circulated. The Constitution states that elections shall be held every FIVE years. Mr Hichilema, popularly known as HH, reminiscent of another democrat KK, won the Presidency in 2006, 2011 and 2016, beating his unknown challengers, represented by frogs.
So Mr Petition will talk about petition, let him go and complain among those who dont vote, as he is heading for another loss in 2021.
Why are PF id1ots reacting angrily to this news? Is it because it un happy that HH is becoming popular on the international stage that matters than Vasco da thief chakolwa Lungu?
PF are dead scared that their days in power ate dwindling.
Chatam house is an organisation of influential academics with credentials of having applied their economic knowledge and skill to create a business empire.
Of course many foreign investers want to come to Zambia under a good democratic system which guarantees rule of law as opposed to PF s anarchy under chakolwa thief Lungu.
People who support PF are all menatally deranged and need some serious treatment.
Any one with a PHD in UK knows Chatham house.
Only the fakers like Mushota are not aware of this very influential organisation.
PF tiija wawha!
Anyway Hakainde has no strategy…he will go to talk about petition to street vending in Kamwala his foreign audience will be more confused after the speech and will even wonder what his MPs do in Parliament
We are sick of this desperate man. Sick and tired of him.
HH HAS ALWAYS BEEN AN @RSE LIKA OF IMPERIALISM. NI “NDEYA NSOSE KUBA SUNGU” (OR IS IT TRUMP? WHITE PEOPLE KNOW HH’s WEAKNESS- HE LOVES MONEY AND HE CAN DO ANYTHING FOR MONEY INCLUDING SELLING ZAMBIA WHICH HE ATTEMPTED AND HE IS ALWAYS ATTEMPTING TO DO. NOT EVEN KAPOMPA SALADI HAS EVER SAID ANYTHING BAD ABOUT ZAMBIA AS THIS UNDER 5 CHAP. ANYWAY, THE BEST PART IS THAT ZAMBIANS KNOW HOW USELESS HH IS IN POLITICS AND THEY HAVE CONSISTENTLY KEPT HIM AT ARM’S LENGTH FROM PLOT 1. VIVA ZAMBIANS.
If UPND matched PF s violence blow by blow what kind of Zambia would we have?
PF minions should thank HH for his peaceful and non violent nature nature.
If HH wanted to use violence PF would be no where right now. So do not insult a peaceful man in HH. He has a big heart and exercises a lot of self control and restraint which some us do not have.
YOU SEE PROPAGANDA MACHINERY YAPA WESTERN WORLD YALIBA DYNAMIC AND SOPHISTICATED. THE WESTERN INTEREST AS FAR AS AFRICA IS CONCERNED IS TO BRING AFRICA DOWN OR EVEN BURRY IT BY REPORTING ANY PERCEIVED OR REAL BAD THINGS ABOUT AFRICA. NOW THAT THEIR INTEREST IS LAYED BARE AND KNOWN TO THE WORLD, DYNAMICALLY, THEY HAVE CHANGED THE WAY THEY USELESS AFRICA. THEY NOW INVITE CHAPS SUCH AS HH TO THEIR OWN COUNTRIES AND ASK THE INVITED GUEST TO RUBBISH AFRICA. AND HH IS VERY GOOD IN RUBBISHING ZAMBIA SO HE IS THEIR BEST CANDIDATE.
@Peter whats there in Zambia under Lungu to be proud of?
The man Lungu is so silly that even salt and sugar in statehouse is imported. He has no confidence in his own hosiptals in Zambia. His kids and grand children all go schools abroad.
After 53 years of so called independence whats to be proud about when only those leaking Chakolwa lungu’s arse are free but afraid of critising him.
In case PF id1ots are not aware, HH has attended many such conferences as a private individual and entreprenuer before he become famous as opposition leader. Must he stop now to appease PF low lives who have totally nothing to offer apart from sucking up to Chakolwa Lungu and perfecting the craft of stealing .
HH wants to exhaust all legal channels to deal with democratic deficiency that Zambia suffering from before turning to equal measures PF use to silence the opposition.
Malabishi….
2021 vote PF ( Edgar)
I thank you
MUSHOTA YOU HAVE NEVER HEAR OF CHATHAM HOUSE BECAUSE YOU WORK IN NURSING HOMES
I thought one UPND someone was saying HH was on House arrest thats why he could not be present at the Independence celebrations. Another one said it was because there was cholera. If it was PF they would be saying everyone just says anything yet now we see it in them.
Zambian Politicians awe mwandini katwishi. Kwati tabaya kumasukulu.
If Kamba had his way he would have made sure HH does not make it to the UK.How a normal party can allow Kamba to be near a microphone worse still speak into it purportedly representing the party’s position beats me.Kamba where you?
I am a neutral lawyer who wants to assist. Please note that attendance to independence celebrations is not compulsory but very voluntary, thereby no body should be blamed, ridiculed or brought into ridicule for not attending the celebrations – It is not necessary. With my little advice above, I would rather we concentrate on developmental issues
Attending independence celebrations for what? The colonial masters made sure there was medicine, we eat bread with butter, roads in townships were graded annually. Now our resources are being shared among a few elite who never even liberated us, under the guise of TENDERS. Shameless creatures.
Feedom is all about choosing what you want as long as you are enjoying your rights. why would people get worried that HH did not attend the independence cerebrations and start talking trash. I dont think after independence Zambia is free. We are slaves to corruption after 53rd of independence, poor leadership,tribal divisions, poverty and cholera yet you want someone to cerebrate independence.
Agree.
Corruption is another form of Slavery.
This time its Africans by Africans and Zambians by Zambians..
Can you imagine???
He will talk about his incarceration, stolen vote and election petition. He will not mention anything about the questionable 91% voter turnout in Tongaland. He won’t talk about how he instructed his supporters to beat and kill Bembas in Tongaland. He will not talk about the UPND Operation Revenge
SO WHAT WERE YOU THINKING WHEN YOU INCARCERATED HIM, STEALING HIS VOTES AND DENYING HIM JUSTICE , YOU DULL THING. KEEP ON PRAYING MAYBE WE WILL FORGIVE YOU FOR DENYING US PROGRESSIVE LEADERSHIP AND OPPORTUNITY IMPROVE OUR STANDARDS OF LIVING. CELEBRATE YOUR MEDIOCRE!
he wont mention the democratic deficit in UPND.
Come on guys….whats new about UPND priorities after 16yrs in the wilderness?
We expect more of the same from his masters in the next 30yrs of being in opposition.
Congrats HH for being singled out to go and talk at Chatham house. It shows the confidence. Love you or hate you, you are a good guy. Soldier on please, they have tried hard to squeeze you, they cant allow you to hold peaceful rallies, Freedom of Assembly which is guaranteed in the constitution is a pipe dream but please soldier on. They cant even put you on ZNBC and yet you pay TV levy. Ours is a strange democracy indeed.
Peter mabange sinkamba atticulate issues better than this bitter soul. I will support Peter in the next elections.
What of lungu ?
Hope the Chatham house speech will translate into 2021 presidential election results.
HH mwaculenipo mukwai!!!!
2021, Vote ECL nafuti nafuti
Its good a Zambian is being invited for such forums. What is important is for HH to pay extra attention to the issues they have said they want him discuss. He should not allow cadres to lead is thinking. He should think beyond himself and bring out issues with a sober mind. He should avoid being seen as still mourning about 2016 elections. HH should be mindful that such platforms are keys for many Zambians to the global stage. He should know that he is representing Zambia and not the aspiration of UPND, not at all. He should bring out the interests of all opposition parties in Zambia. Infact he needed to quickly convene a brain storming meeting with other opposition parties before going. All the best and remember Zambia’s interest throughout the meeting.
That’s too much for HH – he can’t articulate any of those. He will concentrate on bashing Zambia and its govt.
Nothing new or impressive news HH will talk about than cry over the past election results!!
Can lungu ever be invited to such forums ???
Apart from those he gatecrashes and dpeaks infront of an empty hall like the UN ???
Lungu is supposed to be a lawyer and I am sure the world holds forums on good governance and the such ? Is lungu ever invited ? Or is he seen a a corrupt violence condoning theif ??
They do not invite Presidents – they invite losers.
@abalima: …kwekwekwekwekwekwe…nice one!!
at least now i can post it 1pm lunch time.
unlike 24/7 u5 blogers
iwe u5 you are a real clown.
those people in uk wont vote in 2021
even if you tell them how zp smoked you from your tunnels like a rat it wont add value.
how can you win with 3 province. Visit us and convice us not going to uk.
and you think when u5 blogers post insults it will make for u5. be nice to us because we are majority
u5 has no councilor in kalulushi. in lsk and cb. how did he win presidence
u5 followers have high bp ki ki ki
if you think gbm takes over press RED
if your a worshipa or ka u5 respond
Does this mean that he has now accepted his role as leader of the largest OPPOSITION party in Zambia? Though he doesn’t recognise ECL has presido!!!
3 priorities for HH during his discussion: (1) the fight against corruption; (2) judicial reforms and rule of law; (3) economic development and democratic freedoms
Go well Hiakainde and dont come back.
Fellow Zambians and interested parties, it is good for aspiring leaders to discuss the policies they intend to implement once given the mandate to govern. It makes a sad reading when important issues that affect us all are hardly discussed at all. I welcome any leader sitting or opposition to discuss policy for the country and our future generations.
govt must grab his passport .
so that he cries more to amnesty international. who cares
Hehehehe
Desperation can kill…..
HH is going to be the President of Zambia, take it or leave it. The writing is on the wall.
Which wall is that? You mean the wall of your house?
We’ll leave it… to the people to decide.
No wonder he is u5. Why not speak about his priorities here in zambia but in UK. He kept it a secret now we will know. MCS was open about his priorities when he was in opposition not ba HH
Try giving him even 2 minutes everyday on your deadNBC and he will convince you, by the way he wanted to speak to you in kanyama and you gagged him again by coming up with a cholera theory.
In case your memory keeps on failing you. The scheduled radio appearance by UPND President Hakainde Hichilema on Radio Christian Voice on Monday morning failed to take off after the radio station cancelled the programme at the eleventh hour.
Mr Hichilema’s radio appearance on Radio Christian Voice was again cancelled last week.
Guess who threatened the radio station?
@21. 2, Remember that Radio Christian Voice is a Christian Radio. Don’t forget that Hichilema is an ordained Freemason.
According to the Christian Bible who is supposed to the judge on faith matter, simple amoeba like you mr Ranger? I don’t think so.
If it has hurt you so bad, why not take the tayali route go and petition the London police to cancel that gathering. Fulu stop.
Politicians are all cut from the same cloth of deception.Neither HH nor Lungu is going to make this nation any better.Independence and liberty should start at family level.If one is able to send his children to school and able to feed them,then one is liberated.You are better off pushing a wheelbarrow and feed your children other than depending on politicians.Zambia has never been a better country ever since she became a multi party state.There is selfishness and egocentric way of living.Politicians have just been milking the nation of its resources.They send their children to the best schools.They are able to access better health facilities.Nationals,just move in poverty and depravity.Forget about politicians to bring food on your table.Vote but don’t depend on these politicians to push…
There is no honour among thiefs. Lungu is scared of HH and UPND. The man is not sleeping becoz of the stolen elections and stolen money from govt Corrupt deals. Lungu cant sleep properly because he is seeing HH’s shadow all the time. Stealing Elections is disempowering. Lungu is not confident becoz he knows he stole the 2016 Election and is fire fighting to avoid the Petition Hearing. The revelation that 12996 HH votes were stolen in Kalu,lushi makes Lungu uncomfortable becoz the Petition is indirectly being heard. Malandu tauboli and Lungu dreads the day the Petition will be heard in Court. That would finish him off politically. Illegitimacy is painful and continues to breed uncertainty and insecurity to Lungu and his Criminal advisers. Lungu wanted HH to recognize him as a Legitimate…
One valuable point I wish to bring to HH`s attention, please review your presentation with your UPND members, accept being criticized and ensure your presentation represent the views of your members. This is not a one-man show. Better still, you can consult with a few of your cadres on LT, I am sure they will have an open minded opinion on most of the topics that you will be discussing.
Talk about your future plans and your strategy, do not focus on “spilled beans”.
Mind you, Mushota, Kudos, Njimbu, Terrible and others will be there to give you moral support.
Exactly my thoughts General. HH please cease this opportunity and make your party and supporters proud
HH is a man and half. Of course the spineless chaps fear him like ten devils. I am not UPND but he is the only person I trust for leadership in this country.
kikikiki yabbaaa
Go..Go HH. Make us proud. Tell your story and gain external exposure. We want to see u on BBC Hardtalk and Focus on Africa. If the Illegitimate Lungu Regime had powers they were declare a Cholera Outbreak in the UK and block the visit to London. Bon Voyage and good luck!!
At a forum that is well organized, HH fails to answer simple questions. Since the agenda is not about his alleged stollen votes and him to be heard I will fail to shine.
He will fail to shine
We know ecl has never done any presentation at any well organized forum.
Moze ki ki ki ki he was thrown in chimbokaila ati am 10timez more stronger to deliver my people. yabaaa awe sure
Cheseke seke wechipuba finshi useka, ukaseka namafi unyele….
Haha now we know the PHD erection, has never even heard of Chatham house. Proves her low calibre of world wide political understanding apart from cadre- bootlicker mentality
Guess she doe not even know Houses of Parliament.
This discredits all her previous blogs not that they have been meaningful apart from empty tins!
Trying to get more votes fro The Royal Institute of International Affairs in London.
Misdirected efforts.
What a disaster!
HH is a perfect example of a house negro…
@Nostradamus..come join me for a drink this weekend….I live in Adams Morgan.. downtown Washington DC
Please stop worrying about HH…he has made it already in life…so come let’s share ideas on how we can also start sipping champagne when we are thirsty
Anyway
2021 vote PF (Edgar)
I thank you
Ba LT,is this news?
Look, RB receives invitations from a lot of western universities,Hon.Harry Kalaba was in September 2017 invited at a Washington DC university,etc.SO IS THERE ANYTHING SPECIAL HERE?SPARE US PLEASE!!the people HH will be cheating in UK shall never vote in Zambia.he will simply be wasting his time and energy talking nonsense about mother Zambia in UK.anyway,HH is an under 5 politician so he cant learn from his past failures.instead of organizing his tribal upnd party in Zambia,HH will be busy addressing wrong people in UK who cannot vote for him-kikikikiki -amazing!!!
ANYWAY,BETTER THAT AND HH CAN STAY IN UK UNTIL NEXT ELECTIONS IN 2021 AS WE DONT NEED HIS EVIL POLITICS HERE!!!SO GO WELL KAINDE!!!
Reality is for example HH was kk then can we talk of democracy today in zambia?to me no .And you?
Hafuna Hagurise Zambia! Hazaruza Hagain! Once beaten, twice shy! He sold Zambia before!
Fortunately, Lusaka, Central, Northern, Luapula, Copperbelt, Eastern and Central Provinces will decide who wins! Not South Africa or UK. Keep dreaming Under Fives.
Going downhill..this boy under5.
I rather like the idea of under5 speaking at such fora. Under5 is neither a politician nor a speaker even when his speech is written for him. Just wait and see what an anti climax and self defeating exercise this will turn out to be. Did you see the disgust disguised as embarrassment on the faces of Maimane’s white MPs when under5 addressed them?
There was a massive overwhelming response to the call out for Zambians to celebrate their independence, massive response from all age groups. Looked at in another way, there was a massive and overwhelming defiance against the call by under5 to boycott the celebrations. If this was an election you know how much under5 would be getting…..speaks volumes, next is
Petition, when
“…massive overwhelming response…”
Under 5 bedtime terrible fake news.
Security personnel outnumbered well-wishers 15:1
At the core of Political Turmoil and Gross Human Rights Violations in Zambia, is the Zambian Intelligence also infamously known as the Office of the President (OP).
The OP has an Hidden Agenda the ultimate goal of which is to indirectly and then directly seize power in Zambia, just like has happened and still happening in Romania, Turkey, Syria, Egypt, Costa Rica, Pakistan, and other countries where their intelligence exert undue influence on their governments.
The OP has undue influence on the Zambian government and political leadership: It has a track record of influencing all election results in Zambia where Popular Vote doesn’t count at all ; It is the self appointed ELECTORAL COLLEGE in Zambia , with an institutionalized clandestine RIGGING SYSTEM -on behalf of the Zambian…
@37.1 U5, chakubaba? These were genuine Zambians celebrating their independence day, massive overwhelming spontaneous outpouring of citizens, not organised by any politician, and in most cases not a single policeman in sight and not a single fight despite the drinking, just sheer. pleasure. You could see how peaceful real Zambians are, and the reason is simple, under5 managed to keep his ruffians home, but it certainly did expose him and his ruffians as the source and only source of violence in Zambia.
@ 39
My apology.
You are right when you say “…massive overwhelming spontaneous outpouring of citizens, not organised by any politician…”. Indeed, it was organised by Endemically Corrupt Leader of the Plunderers Federation for the benefit of 1mbeciles like you. By the way, how come members of armed forces “spontaneously” joined “outpouring” of citizens to welcome rulers?
Carry on l1cking and sucking you brainles cretin
HH NIKUTEMWA ADD MY VOTE
ILICHE
Jay Jay I am with you. HH has no strategy I am wondering what he is going to say at The Chatham House. He fails to seize opportunities. I wonder why. UPND please help this country by having a strategy of how to form GRZ in 2012 not this stolen election broken record you play almost on daily basis. And for once assign someone to be reading online media and get comments and advice that are forwarded maybe it will make you understand the frustrations Zambians have with the current PF Government and the hopelessness they have in your the biggest opposition. UPND you are absolutely not inspiring you give us no hope for a better Zambia. You do not articulate issues. You have disconnected with us the suffering Zambian. Please have a strategy and strategy to win over Zambians to consider you as…
Meant 2021. continued Please have a strategy and strategy to win over Zambians to consider you as an alernative
The same colonial guys to listen to hh rumblings and eventually issue a statement to divide us further so that their people can loot as we fight each other.We know already he is going to talk about 2016 polls and public order act. Like I said before one should not expect anything from these ba Zungu guys that shall promote peace. They always have hidden agendas. Can you imagine where all the Africans fighting each other get their weaponry, from the ba Zungu. We have white collar slavery going on in Zambia. These are the vices you need to lecture on ba UPND imwe.
You are right, it is capitalist west which provides AK-47 and MIG helicopters and fighter bombers made in China to democrats in Africa
As to the membership of Chatam House, check the names before showing extent of your !mbecility
Wonder what HH will say in London, the man is a pathological liar and not interested in the welfare of Zambians! He’s even against having good roads in the country, and he drives on them, comfortably and effienciently carries out his chores! Londoners will be surprised to see a man who can’t even smile! These whites interfere too much in African affairs! The British are so greed that they don’t want other nationalities in the UK, and to them that’s not segregation, and their Prime Minister can have as many “third terms as possible”, and to them that’s DEMOCRACY! If I were HH wouldn’t go there to be used!
You are right, he misled Nation about “more money” in theirs pockets, lied about 2 million jobs in 90 days, then corrected himself multiple times about job creation stating 1 million, then half a million, then 200 thousands jobs, re-opened molengushi textile for the duration of campaign then closed-it again, mind you, his overseas bank balance got bigger and bigger with every single bond issue to the extent that it needs 42 fire engines to cool his thirst for richest Plunderer ……..
1mbecile, UK is CONSTITUTIONAL MONARCHY and you do not collect the Quin or King. In UK you elect Members of Parliament. Do you know the difference? Instead of Endemically Corrupt Leader of Plunderers Federation, British voters choose theirs representatives to Parliament which reigns SUPREME and choose…
…choose its own head of Government
The 2021 Ballot paper will have space for Chatham House. We advise HH to spend more time in the UK because his support base will come from there. Here in Zambia he has already fallen short SEVERAL times.
Some people explain their vision to the fellow intellectuals around the world, other prefer giving press statements to fellow 1mbeciles at the airport tarmac
go tell them the truth ALSO SPEAK FOR AFRICA AS WELL, JUST DRESS NICELY NOT WHAT I SEE IN THIS KA PHOTO
I’ve never heard any well-known forum inviting PF people to speak and share their vision for our country. Maybe it’s because our current leader said that he has no vision? Well, we as an electorate have the opportunity to hear what the UPND are planning for our country. We need such information in order for us to choose whether to support them or not!
HH travel well and make sure you board Malaysian airlines OK… 2021pf again.
1MBECILE
HH is becoming like RB and ECL with the Muzungu anikonde attitude…
Great news, HH
One quote comes to mind:- “When the wind is against you, that is when you should take off. Remember that the airplane takes off against the wind, not with it.” – (Henry Ford, American industrialist and business magnet 1863 -1947)
The quote is self explanatory.
I stand by what I typed earlier, and it is important for people to have arguments in perspective, let them make an informed decision. This is what I typed and mysteriously disappeared… ” The airplane will take off if the jet engines were not sold”, this is common sense, you sale the jet engines, you do not fly.
@Radius,
LOL – The fact that you do not know when to use ‘sale’ or sell’ in a sentence speaks a lot about your level of competence and IQ. So, a quote like the one above is clearly beyond your comprehension.
Which argument in perspective?
@Brabus – Sorry that was U5 spelling – See how petty you and your Supreme Leader are? Just like your supreme leader, you do not discuss substance… you want to discuss style. No wonder he started by stealing first and want to rule us. Maybe seek secession, which I think will never happen. Choose substance.
@Radius,
LOL – As I said, if your IQ is low, you will have difficulty in getting the clear meaning of Henry Ford’s quote above. You, my friend have an IQ in single digits. Do you even know what an IQ is?
Why is there such furious reaction to this seemingly called small issue? Some of the reactions are so emotion.