UPND president Hakainde Hichilema says the current political situation in Zimbabwe is a wake-up call for SADC which he said has not been proactive in dealing with human rights issues in member countries.
Mr Hichilema said the SADC has adopted a laissez-faire attitude when handling issues of poor governance.
He was speaking to journalists at the Supreme Court grounds today after attending a Constitutional Court hearing in Margaret Mwanakatwe’s appeal against the nullification of her Lusaka Central parliamentary seat which Charlotte Scott had successfully petitioned.
“This is a wakeup call to SADC which has taken a laissez-faire attitude in pro actively dealing with concerns of citizens of our region. The Economic Community for West African States is doing much better in this area, ECOWAS is more proactive and it takes interest in cases to do with abuse of human rights, liberties and freedoms. It takes interest in the breakdown of the rule of law, we have seen ECOWAS take steps in Gambia, in Côte d’Ivoire, in Burkina Faso and indeed in Mali pro-actively which SADC has to done and SADC clears now has been behaving in a manner we can describe as an attitude of ‘scratch my back and I scratch yours’, ignore the rule of law in your neighbouring country which is a SADC member and say nothing about my country when I break the rule of law,” Mr Hichilema said.
Mr Hichilema condemned SADC for waiting until people’s lives were at risk before taking the matter seriously.
Mr Hichilema said the unfolding events in that country affects everyone because when Zimbabwe’s social, economic and political status is in limbo, even Zambia’s gets affected.
The UPND leader has therefore called for an urgent amicable solution which places and prioritises the interest of Zimbabweans.
Mr Hichilema said this is a lesson to bodies like Southern African Development Community (SADC) which always only waits for situations to escalate and later begin issuing statements either for their own interest or whoever is holding onto power and not the citizens.
“We stand with our brothers in Zimbabwe and pray for calm and that such situations can always be avoided when people’s cries are listened to on time. This is why in country’s situation we are saying only the dialogue process will help us restore the rule of law and establish strong independent institutions that will without political influence adjudicate matters in a just manner,” Mr Hichilema said.
He added, “And today, SADC through the current Head of SADC Jacob Zuma is saying ‘SADC is watching keenly’ but what are they watching keenly?’ Because Zimbabwe has been degenerating for the last 10 to 15 years and now Zimbabweans are at the risk of losing life and property and becoming refugees in bigger numbers yet again when SADC has been basically sitting and having meetings like nothing is going on wrong in our countries,” he said.
Mr. Hichilema predicted that there would be an inflow of Zimbabweans refugees into Zambia following the power crisis.
“We wish the people of Zimbabwe the best, we wish them safety and calmness within stormy waters to probably help lead into a situation that Zimbabweans have been expecting for too long and it’s not been coming, and that is to allow for observance of the rule of law,” he said.
“To allow for Zimbabweans to enjoy human rights, liberties and freedoms which they have not been enjoying for a long time and that will lead to peace and stability that will allow for free, fair and credible elections so that leaders that care for the people of Zimbabwe are put in place and then Zimbabweans don’t have to migrate to neighbouring countries and you know Zambia has been home for a lot of Zimbabweans and this situation may be exacerbated now by the current situation in Zimbabwe,” he said.
SADC is a SAD affair !!
Great to see former president Guy Scott.
I think Magerate vs Charlotte elections rerun is better news than Mugabe vs SADC.
HH himself attempted a coup but he is not wired right to carry out something this well orchestrated. the best he could do was road rage!
Well said mr President.
The hopeless and toothless SADC region!
watching keenly means ndeloleshafye!
Zupta knows inkama!
The fact that SADC or AU has never condemned Mugabe’s 37 years as dictator, and the vile dictator even served as AU chair should tell you these organisations are impotent and not a factor. These stup!d punks in SADC and AU have been eye witness to Mugabe’s deliberate, calculated, single handed, satanic destruction of a prosperous country that Zimbabwe was. Getting rid of Mugabe should make every lover of democracy rejoice. People of Zim have suffered enough at the hands of this educated charlatan and his evil wife.
Look who’s talking….How long have you been UPND president iwe Hakainde….and by the way there’s no Crisis in Zimbabwe just the western media trying to hype it up…I was in Zimbabwe 4 days ago……..Mugabe is not going anywhere….
2021 vote PF (Edgar)
I thank you
I’m joining upnd to overthrow those who have outlived their usefulness. HH to be specific.
Make SADC Great Again
“Make SADC Great Again” …. ??? It never was. SADC has always been the little brother of the big brother called the African Union.
And this big brother is nothing more than a DICTATORS CLUB for murdering tyrants and despots to pat each other on the back and legitimise their RIGGING of elections and PLUNDER of Africas resources much, much worse that the colonialists ever did.
It is one of the biggest stumbling blocks and obstacles to Africas development and eradicating poverty.
HH
BRING BACK THE MONEY YOU STOLE THROUGH PRIVATISATION
Even a fool who is silent is considered wise. Its not everything you comment on. Some things you watch and pray.
“Zimbabwe crisis is wake up call for SADC-HH”
JUST AS SADC MUST BE AWARE OF POTENTIAL AFRICA SELLOUTS AND HARDCORE DICTATORS SUCH AS HH HIMSELF. HH WOULD MAKE THE WORST DICTATOR IF GIVEN ANY CHANCE. BE CAREFUL AFRICA.
@1.1 THE ABOVE PICTURE IS A FILE PICTURE. IT WAS TAKEN A LONG TIME AGO. IT ISN’T A CURRENT PICTURE. JUST IN CASE YOU THINK IT’S TODAY OR YESTERDAYS PICTURE.
Bayamba kubwetuka.
You MISS IT HH, the “coup” in Zimbabwe is NOT NECESSARILY” about supporting the suffering masses!! It IS MORE OF AN INTERNAL POWER STRUGGLE to control the country BY DIFFERENT FACTIONS OF THE SAME GROUP, ZANU-PF AND LIKELY SAME IDEOLOGY! It was ignited by Mugabe’s wife wanting to gain control of party she DIDN’T EVEN KNOW HOW WHERE IT STARTED FROM, more like those who felt they “SHOULD SUCCEED THEIR UNCLE or DAD”- YOUR FANS!! WHAT BETTER HAS ECOWAS DONE IN COTE D’IVOIRE RATHER THAN TO ENDORSE THE COLONIAL TAKE OVER OF THE COUNTRY BY A STOOGE OF THE FRENCH,BANISHING A PATRIOTIC PRESIDENT GBAGBO TO THE HAGUE- you call that good?? ZIM SOLDIERS ARE SO DOING WELL, they still treating Mugabe with respect-they are mature!!
BOB CAN’T GO ON DRIBBLING ELEMENTS THAT RIGGED ELECTIONS FOR ZANUPF. HE SHOULD HAVE REMINDED “LADY GAGA” OR STOPPED HER FROM BEING OVER AMBITIOUS. MANJE GAME YA LOLA, THE WORLD HAS BECOME VERY SMALL FOR HER.
Totally Agree
That’s is paradise boy for you! He always comes up with wrong analyses….surely Under5
@3.3 THE REASON FOR WRONG ANALYSES, IF AT ALL IT EVEN QUALIFIES FOR ANALYSIS, IS THAT THE CHAP, HH, DOEN’T KNOW HOW TO ANALYSE ISSUES AND HE RUSHES TO PUBLISH HIS RANTINGS IN ORDER TO BE THE FIRST TO COMMENT ON ISSUES HE DOES NOT EVEN HAVE MUCH KNOWLEDGE ABOUT. THAT IS PURELY BU UNDER 5.
What would HH have done in the past 10~15 years had he been leader? Probably the nothing until the situation warranted need for intervention.. It is easier to speak
Don’t forget that Mwanawasa, as SADC chairman denounced Mugabe’s misrule. Every leader in SADC was quiet
History keeps on repeating itself.
SADC is riddled with geo-political and personal rivalries among leaders which threaten to make it difficult to deal with internal conflicts and rein in rogue states. Mugabe’s fracas with Mwanawasa was reminiscent of his row with former South African president Nelson Mandela during a SADC meeting in Angola in 1997.
SADC diplomats indicates there were not just divisions, but a fierce clash between Mugabe and Mwanawasa that left the regional leaders shocked. They say the trouble started after Mbeki del-ivered his report on talks between the Zimbabwean ruling party Zanu (PF) and the opposition Movement for Democratic Change (MDC).
“After Mbeki delivered his report to the summit, Mwanawasa, as the chair of the meeting, said there was an urgent need to…
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“After Mbeki delivered his report to the summit, Mwanawasa, as the chair of the meeting, said there was an urgent need to discuss Zimbabwe because the situation there had become ‘unacceptable’.
Kikwete said there was no need to discuss it because talks were in progress and Mbeki concurred,” a senior diplomat said.
The wrangle was caused by an attempt by Mwanawasa to table Zimbabwe for discussion, a move which enraged Mugabe.
True. See people like Julius Malema and the EFF. They’ve done more in their little existence than HH and his UPND Party
@4,1 MWANAWASA WAS ANSWERABLE TO AND ALWAYS TRYING TO IMPRESS THE WRONG MASTER- WESTERN IMPERIALISM. THAT’S WHY SADC KEPT QUIET.
And he died. …Mugabe told him that someone will return to their countries as corpses.
hh always complains in life that show you are not a leader
He has also overstayed as a leader in upnd. It is starts even from families.
@5.1 Charles.. YOU ARE SPOT ON! The other day he was saying in Ndola at a card renewal exercise ““My wife Mutinta and I would like to extend our sincere gratitude to the multitudes of people who turned up for the UPND membership card renewal,” – HOW DIFFERENT IS HE FROM ROBERT MUGABE AND HIS WIFE GRACE IN ZANU-PF personalizing a political party which should belong to all members!! HE IS A DICTATOR IN WAITING!!
HH IS SO STUPIID TO KNOW THAT WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT IS WHAT HE HAS DONE TO HIS OWN TEMBA PARTY. HE HAS BEEN IN UPND PARTY FOR NOW THE 6TH TERM.MEANING HE HAS BEEN A DICTATOR IN UPND FOR MORE THAN 20 YEARS AND HE STILL WANTS TO TRY AND LOSE AGAIN. HH MUST LET OTHERS IN UPND TRY- THEY MAY WIN. HH IS A SERIOUS DICTATOR IN HIS OWN PARTY. IF HH SHOULD BE GIVEN A CHANCE TO OCCUPY PLOT 1, HE WILL BE A VERY HORRIBLE DICTATOR. “ICIKWANKA BACIMONA KUMAMPALANYA”.
BE CAREFUL ZAMBIANS.
HH u are only active on social media and most of your supporters are on social media living abroad and worse of all they don’t vote.
On the ground , you not known by ordinary people apart from your Tonga village. And when you fail , u make noise together with your abroad supporters who don’t even have votes cards.
That’s why they call you Under5 and your supporters under1 UPNDonkeys.
So over 30,000 voters in Kanyama are on social media ??? When u are barking from afar you miss the point and over 45% voters that voted HH are on social media???? when there is only 14% penetration of smart phones of mobile phone users in Zambia?? Comment with facts PLEASE !!! Dont make pronouncements just because they sound nice to those that may not like HH or the UPND
This is what happens when you turn a political party into your own kantemba. HH and that disgraced pastor, take note.
This isn’t about HH ,a kantemba or any party you kachasu drinker. Its about millions of Zimbabwean lives ruined thru greed & misrule.
This is about people who try to force themselves to rule and use political parties as if it’s a personal to holder item you pillock. The same way this very HH and his friend Mumba have overstayed their time to ruin Zambia’s democracy.
The SADC region lacks a model country. Since there isn’t such a country, why can’t they form an umbrella body like ECOWAS and ECOMOG? Are they so naive? Check and see what happened in Ivory Cost and the Gambia. That’s what SADC needs – a military force of sorts.
I mean, a superior regional military force.
@8 Imute, WHAT happened in IVORY COAST? What did ECOWAS or ECOMOG DO? Better write from position of knowledge! In Cote d’Ivoire the French connived with the UN Force which was predominantly French speaking to REMOVE GBAGBO, A GUY WHO HAD ACTUALLY WON AN ELECTION TO INSTALL A STOOGE, so that THEY CAN CONTINUE MILKING THE COUNTRY AND CAUSING CONFUSION!! What happened in the GAMBIA, IT WAS MAINLY SENEGAL, the neighbor which wanted to see the dictator Jammeh since they had difficult relations! In fact Jammeh was persuaded to step down and into exile by his “friend” the President Mauritania (which is not even an ECOWAS Member).WHAT ECOMOG, if the major contributor NIGERIA HAS FAILED TO OVERCOME BOKO HARAM IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY??!!
HH has made objective points here about the Zimbabwe and African situation and all some bloggers can do is attack him personally. SADC is toothless and has been for some time. If Presidents have been afraid to speak about violations in other countries or selfishly considered what they would ‘lose out’, at least they should have been robustly doing so through a regional body – relentlessly.
That is why it is crucial to strengthen institutions NOW and allow level playing fields. What is happening can happen to any other Southern African country that does not take heed – especially when those benefiting from corrupted and usurped institutions think it will last forever.
HH is not the right person to talk about events in Zimbabwe because he can make a worse president than Mugabe: Ascending to UPND president through tribalism; Overstaying in the position of UPND president even after leading his party to defeat 10 times and disregarding the UPND constitution – all is proof enough that HH has neither knowledge nor regard for democracy and constitution and that he ‘s worse than Mugabe.
As head of an opposition party, a government-in-waiting, he might be in line to be part of SADC one day. To let fly random accusations that lack substance against SADC in the media is testimony of a person who lacks leadership ettiquette and wisdom. hh speaks like a musical concert mc playing to the crowd. Mazoka had a shadow cabinet that had professionals who would have gone on the ground and advised their leader appropriately. WHAT A CONTRAST WITH THIS MISGUIDED FAILURE ABOVE. hh has vague knowledge of real governance.
Hh is right, name one conflict solved by SADC ??
hh is naive. hh knows nothing about SADC let alone the democracy within his party. hh is head of upnd by virtue of his tribe not his political acumen or wisdom. SADC is an evolving body. The dynamics of west Africa differ from southern Africa. West Africa has seen more coups and dictators, so the comparison is vague.
This disaster man. Whatever rubbish that happens its political milage. Not so long ago he used Kenya situation to make some political milage. He is really petty!
He is a disaster.
Pathetic.
When his opposition fellow leader in Kenya wasted the country’s time and resources for not standing in the re-run HH said absolutely nothing. Who is the president of Kenya today?
Rude Monk
You are right my friend…HH is childish
Wow wow wow: You read everything rubbish LT about HH even when the issue has nothing to do with him. I believe he is a great man of the people and his party. But I am skeptical about the other, come 2021 I wonder if someone won’t buy pangas and machetes to slice people’s heads in a bid for re-election.
I have come to a conclusion that HH is a sadist. Surely is this the time to blame anyone especially SADC for this Zimbabwe situation? And why does he have to turn everything to himself? He is really something else, isn’t he? The people of Zimbabwe need our prayers and help right now and if they have to come to Zambia again as things are sorted out in their country so be it. We know it will only be temporary. In Eastern province there is saying that says “Alendo ni mame”. The Zimbabweans will only be alendos ( Visitors) if they came to Zambia. They will eventually return to Zimbabwe at some stage. Lets pray for a peaceful resolution and a lasting solution. You don’t cry over spilt milk. What a leader this HH!
That is what many of us thought in 1980, that our Zimbabwean neighbors, those who were crossing over to go and vote, were never going to come back again. To our surprise, they returned. Their own country had no room for them. That enthusiasm among Zimbabweans who were living in Zambia then, has long dissipated. Their country’s independence was just an illusion – a pie in the sky. South Africans have since seen an unprecedented influx of Zimbabweans crossing over into their country. Whether we like it or not, a Zimbabwean problem, is a regional problem. When Zimbabwe sneezes, the whole region catches a cold. That’s why we should not sit back and do nothing about that gaping Zimbabwean saga.
Yaba ?????? Comedians spot on, you v made me laugh ??
Hakainde again making utterances carelessly without strategy….anyway the organisation was quiet when he was locked up!!
Political hyenas and saintful hypocrites all around SADC.
This is where Zuma is at his canniness, he knows that in politics especially African Politics you just never know who would be sat on the chair across your table. Hakainde thinks his white business colleagues will always come to the rescue …Hakainde has a lot to learn!!
Someone tell HH that the Zim story is not food for Children. It is for grown up politicians like ECL or Barack Obama. Not even Trump is fit to comment on this matter.
Iwe Jonathan ni “Mbuzi”
How on earth do you include Jonathan in the same sentence as Barack? You are deluded!
Don’t associate Obama’s name with someone who does not mind being called a corrupt theif, are you on drugs….??
@ kci
If there was need of evidence to declare you absolute and total 1mbecile, you did it by yourself. Bravo.
Robert Mugabe and HH are same politicians as they both want to be leaders of their respective political parties forever,so the best HH can do is to keep quiet about what is happening in Zimbabwe.
The reason why soldiers have grabbed power from Mugabe is because he wants to lead Zanu-PF until he dies or hand it to Grace Mugabe (the wife).this is what angered men in uniform.HH has been “cuundu chaitwa” upnd leader since 2006 minus calling for any convention.all upnd top leaders a choosen by HH alone,Mugabe does the same.THIS IS THE CANCER WHICH LED TO A COUP IN ZIMBABWE BO HH!!!hence,its leaders like you HH who are in same shoes with Mugabe,Museveni,etc AND ALL WELL MEANING CITIZENS BLAME POLITICIANS LIKE YOU!!!
Bravo to Zimbabwean Generals for ending WAMUYAYAYA’S MUGABE RULE!!UPND…
Hehehehehe buti njimbu you are really trying to associate HH with presidents of countries
……”…Robert Mugabe and HH are same politicians as they both want to be leaders of their respective political parties forever…”
What did lungu do to kambwili when he heard kambwili had presidential ambitions ??? The sent his thugs to attack and fire kambwili…..that is the teachings of Mugabe.. ….
Mugabe, MU7 , kabila and lungu the dictators of our region….one down 3 to go…
Njimbu what time is mu chembele Mr terrible reliving you from your PF blogging duties ?
He is late on his shift…
Hh is absolutely right, SADC is a tool used by dictators and fraudsters to prolong their stay in office…..when millions of Zimbabweans were fleeing across Botswana to South Africa , some to get burned alive in SA only mwanawase and Ian khama condemned Mugabe.. ..if you are a dictator in office brutallising your subjects all you have to do is mention imperialists and colonialists and the whole SADC keeps qwuiete , just like some in Zambia were mentioning the brunhust foundation and the openhimers
Charity begins at home. You have held on to power in your party in spite of your failure to win an election. In Europe leaders step down after losing an election. Besides if Oval Head thinks the army can overthrow a government and hand the power to him, he’s living in a false paradise.
In Europe leaders resign or get commissions of enquiry going when they are accused of stealing and corruption like lungu has been accused every day…..even on the 42/42 Lungu blocked the investigation in parliament.. ..what a corrupt theif…..
Lead by example please. If you’re democratic show this by stepping down after costing your party victory for the umpteenth time. Then you can tell Lungu ” Look me I’m principled, I resigned when I saw that I wasn’t saleable. So Mr President why don’t you resign since you. ….” But no I’m Alpha and Omega.
It you trying to show us how leaders in Europe step down after losing , never mind sata, and I am saying in Europe no leader can be quite after being labbeled a corrupt theif every day like lungu….
This buffoon if accidently he became zambia’s president he’ll never have friends in Africa, he think he is mire intelligent and wise than all SADC leaders.
He has no teasing in his stupid head apart from being opportunistick at every situation even when it’s hurting the zZimbabweans.
Good , 3/4s of African leaders are beggars and theives , better to align the country with the West.. .we go back begging to them anyway….
Hahahaha the West has been dribbled…Zimbabwe Politics is for grown-ups….still very much in control…
WE LOVE YOU UNCLE BOB
2021 vote PF (Edgar)
I thank you
The issue in point here is over staying as a leader of the party he leads ,but who has over stayed longer as a leader for his party is it EL or is it HH the answer is there for every one to say! However from what direction is he coming from with such comments
I think the Western Media is now looking elsewhere for breaking news…Trump is not selling anymore…Trump is not newsworthy anymore….trying hard to sensationalise the Zim issue….Mwaloba ilyauma….Zimbabweans are our brothers and they will sort it out without any blood shed…have you seen Mugabe looking healthy and smiling with the General earlier today……no War mongering please
2021 vote PF (Edgar)
2018 Vote ZANU-PF
2019 Vote ANC
I thank you
Hehehe Mugabe is senile….his wife has fled , the generals just shoved him in a chair to smile…..
The bloody thirsty Western Media was hoping for more bloodshed in Kenya…Zero…and who is the President of Kenya? OK then
Anyway
2021 vote PF (Edgar)
I thank you
Katondo boys , you are behaving like an Isis jihadi with your hatred of the West, why are you in the West?
The FBI takes an interest in people with terrorist tendencies who could be influencing hatred towards the West by the way….
SADCC leaders always use diplomacy let us learn to give peace a chance hasty decisions always cause a lot of suffering especially to the silent majority who end up dying for nothing.One man’s appetite for money can have serious consequences.Never underestimate people who hide money in foreign countries. MONEY the route of all evil. FINAL WARNING.
This boy HH, has really shot himself in the foot.He is only a business man.One of his businesses is UPND.He is the only shareholder,the rest are employees.What does he expect from a “convention” ? Being the sole shareholder,his vote will carry the day forever.Employees will vote to keep their jobs.
His arrogance is gross. Even if it is conceded he runs a political party,he is only an opposition entity in Zambia.He is not an international opposition factor.
He should leave such commentary to the big boys!
You need Milpark Hospital or at least your employees,watch your mouth,do not stray in Zuma’s jurisdiction.
No wounder Africa is the poorest continent , with people who think only incumbants or presidents have the right to speak of international or regional affairs…..embarassing.
Spaka like lilo:
Your HH is thinking that our army can grab power from the current Zambian Govnt and hand it to him-kikikikikiki wishful thinking indeed.a situation in Zim cannot be compared to ours in Zambia.we have an elected Govnt who won in 6.5 provinces on 11/08/2016!!!
So tell your Kainde to relax and wait for another defeat in 2021.if HH is to become Zambian president one day,it will only be through the ballot and not via back doors!!!SADC,UN,ICC,name them wont take HH to state house!!THIS FACT MUST SINK ONTO HH’S SICK AND TRIBAL MIND!!
Lungu can not win with out violence and corruption…..just like mugabe..
Just look at the POLITICAL VULTURES around HH…. shocking!!!the once smart Dr Guy Scott,Mike Mulongoti,Nevers Mumba etc look very brooke!YABANYOKOLA NJALA BAMAMBALA..KIKIKIKIKIKI!!politics teyabana iyo!!once you are in power invest your money in properties to avoid looking like Dr.Guy Scott,Mulongoti,Sylvia Masebo,etc after office!!JUST IMAGINE IF THOSE BROOKE NIGGAS CAME INTO POWER WITH HH HOW THEY CAN STEAL OUR MONEY-AMAZING!!!!its very clear that things are rough for them…mwanya,your time in Govnt is long gone!!HOPING FOR ARMY TO GRAB POWER OWN BEHALF OF HH IS A VERY EVIL THINKING.plus HH should be carefull because his desperation for state house could make him commit TREASON again!!
NJIMBU BB 2017!!!
Our money is already being stolen by lungu and his gang….42/42 ….ambulances 280k
Masebo looks like Belinda !
All of you who have attacked HH personally are extremely dull. The topic he is talking about is the situation in Zimbabwe and you drag local politics and personality. Kuwayawayafye imwe bonse
Therefore just PF rats who think of stealing 27/9….
They are Tongas like u kikiki
Rule of Law is what we need. In Germany, there are no term limits but the rule of law is observed such that if a party doesn’t deliver on election promises or it is alleged to be corrupt even a bit then it is dununa reverse. So let’s build strong institutions that can stand against manipulation by a party in power. This is the tragedy for most of Africa and latin America. Diversity is not seen as a strength but a threat. Why? If you do well, why fear? So whether it is FDD, UNPD, PF, UPPZ, GP, HP UNIP, MMD it will not matter if the rule of law is respect and strong. Zim situation must make us think beyond the military intervention, which is not a good example.
Mugabe has done a “donchi kubeba mwilalila lila shiiiiiiiiii,,,,, ” BBC and CNN wanted dead bodies lying on the Harare streets on their front pages…but guess what…. UNCLE BOB Comes out smiling..and the western puppet Tswangirai thinks this is the right time to give Zimbabwe back to the former slave masters…..duh….10 to nil….waluza….waramba tea nekuda masese shamwari
2021 vote PF (Edgar)
I thank you
Ba katondo boys stop being a coward and changing names….
2021 EDGAR CHAGWA LUNGU FOR PRESIDENT P
I THANK YOU
Endemically Corrupt Leader for president? I will rather vote for a beggar on the street
HH is 100% right ,this lazy SADC has been treating Mugabe’s abuses with kid gloves and nursing his misrule for too long.
SAD DICK has erectile dysfunction. No bwino bwino.
@ 33.1 ba bwafyaa
What is wrong with you pf theives and changing your blog names ??? Have you no conviction in the lies you are telling ?? The other one katondo boys was also changing his name to Zambia watchdog and spilling hatred towards the West while he is in the US , after being reminded that he could be a person of interest to the FBI for influencing hatred towards the west like ISIS jihadist he seems to have taken cover
……..hehehehe…..its very tough bring a PF kaponya rat for sure….
@33.2 Spaka, I am not the one @33.1, check all posts well you will know that I AM NOT EVEN CADRE of any party!
JESUS SAID “REMOVE THE LOG FROM YOUR OWN EYE BEFORE COMENTING ON A PIECE OF GRASS IN YOUR BROTHER’S EYE.” HH HAS BEEN A DICTATOR FOR 15 YEARS WITHOUT A CONVENTION. THIS IS A WARNING SIGN FOR VOTERS TO NOTE. AND UPND MANAGEMENT CANNOT WARN HH, JUST LIKE THE CABINET OF MUGABE. SO HH DOES NOT HAVE THE MORAL RIGHT TO LECTURE US ON THIS MATTER.
Neither do you have the right to judge him….dont you think??
Truth hurts, it will piss you off at first. HH is right SADICK has erectile dysfunction, no power. SADICK is so toothless.
ba bwafyaa
What is wrong with you pf theives and changing your blog names ??? Have you no conviction in the lies you are telling ?? The other one katondo boys was also changing his name to Zambia watchdog and spilling hatred towards the West while he is in the US , after being reminded that he could be a person of interest to the FBI for influencing hatred towards the west like ISIS jihadist he seems to have taken cover
……..hehehehe…..its very tough bring a PF kaponya rat for sure…
“Wake up call?” This guy deserves to be at Mukobeko! He is a treason case! Believe you me!
It is sad that new babies pursuing politics have no clue of factors mitigating the Zimbabwe crisis. If you do not know you deserve not to run for any leadership role! Under Five is so immature you can vomit him if he were food.
Amdonkis gatherin’.
This guy is really a boy and immature. He doesn’t know right from wrong. No wonder his followers are children too! “Stop Children!”
and this one is the old prostitute Sharon from UTH…..
That explains why her comments have symptoms or oral gonorrhea
Yes wake up call for people who want be presidents at all costs. People who think that to be successful in life you have to become a president.People who dream about plot one,look out for them SADC
Spaka like lilo,”wonder” is not spelt as “wounder”, “incumbents”, is not spelt as “incumbants” This is a give-away. You have little formal education. At best,you are probably a graffiti scribbler,a toilet cleaner or a sweeper at Kings Cross Station. No wonder you cannot interpret data.
And you can interpret data?
Please explain then how come a red painted wheel-barrow can cost 1 million USD and top of the range Airport 6 x 6 fire tender 986,000 USD?
By the way, when did spelling become pre-requisite for IQ test?
“Spaka” may be toilet cleaner, but he is not arse l1cxker and d1ck sucker like you.
that is right ….and you are a corrupt thief….
I think jp50 is sinking to the level of spaka like lilo by picking on spelling errors.Please debate intelligently without using abusive language.
Here comes simpleton .
He got it wrong, power struggle is inside fighting so that the generals and veterans can continue eating peacefully as uncle through his wife were slowly introducing youths to take over power. Nothing will change in Zimbabwe if they let emarson and the generals to takeover power or that failure Morgan. It will actually be worse, watch the space.
You understand the situation very clearly. It’s almost like Kambwili’s PF founders vs Edgar’s newcomers scenario. Not national at all.
SADC is composed of corrupt leaders and are there to support their corrupt and dictatorial leaders and not the people; what did they do in Zambia with Lungu’s abuses? Nothing; Let Mugabe go and let ‘s fight Lungu’s 3rd term bid;
1. Under5, your non observance of democracy within up.ndonkeys is a clear sign of impending dictatorship at national and regional level, should SADC intervene?
2. You predict refugees from Zim pouring into Zambia as a result of this crisis? Wrong reading and total misunderstanding of politics again, there is free movement of people between Zam and Zim and nothing has or will ever disrupt that. If you a true Zambian go to Lusaka Intercity and see for yourself Zimvabweans arriving and departing regardless of your clear ignorance of issues.
3. The real danger to Africa was spelt out to you by Stephen Sackur: self centred individuals e.g. yourself under5
4. By the way tell us whom you intend to dialogue with, our President Lungu or your President Patricia Scotland?
To me you have killed…
Ahhh there you are muchebele…..I was asking njimbu the other PF rat when you will be reliving him.
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4. By the way tell us whom you intend to dialogue with, our President Lungu or your President Patricia Scotland?
To me you have killed the possibilty of dialogue, or maybe your ranting is because you have heard Patricia ia coming soon?
5. First legitimise yourself by going to the convention so that we confirm that you still represent u.pndonkeys before you talk dialogue.
Under5 cannot even fight corruption as he himself smells of corruption just by having renowned corrupt elements like GBM around him. If under5 wants to lecture anybody onbtgese matters let him come clean himself, let him apologise for being appointed and accepting to represent an unconstitutional tribal objective: “we want our tribe to rule Zambia”. All these traits of under5 are a recepè for instability for a future Zambia and SADC.
In conclusion and particularly for the benefit of Spaka, under5 has no locus standi to lecture anyone about democracy or governance because his very existence is not democratic, his ascendancy to power was at best tribal, and at worst rigged and in a normal party would have been the subject of a petition in Court.
News coming in from the BBC is that a military dog has been awarded one of the country’s highest honour for saving the lives of British and allied soldiers in Afghanistan. It is the first such honour awarded to an animal, dog to be specific.
The award drew my attention because in some quarters one receives a “freedom award” for torching the livelihoods of poor citizens and threatening the security of the nation all in pursuit of objectives that BBC’s Stephen Sackur could only describe as “self centredness”.
A cluster of HH, Mulongoti and Guy Scott rings a bell. HH was installed into the Presidency of UPND based on the advice of Mrs. Mazoka who held Anderson’s political secrets against Patrick Chisanga, Bob Sichinga and Sakwiba Sichinga. Guy Scott is a former Vice President who tried to exploit the African mind-set by trying to embed and install Sata’s wife to take over the leadership of PF. Mulongoti is a mere rabid-infested mongrel that was wounded after the demise of a fellow Lamba President. CONNECT THE DOTS to link this cluster to the Mugabe Family dynasty. HH must be advised to wisely read the political landscape in our neighbouring
Zimbabwe. Hence HH MUST SHUT UP.
Revisit your history. Bob Sichinga had long left UPND at the time of Mazoka’s death. Bob was all over radio stations before Mazoka died accusing him of tribalism. If you remember, he was even clobbered at Mazoka’s funeral together with VJ. If you can tell such lies about BOB, how do I believe your allegations about Mrs Mazoka?
HH or Mr Paradise is always looking for opportunities for him to politicize. He thinks the Zambian people will sympathize with him. No ways, we have no time for him. But he must know that the problem of Zimbabweans is also our problem. therefore, he should stop politicizing it.
Knowledge is factual, wisdom is how to apply knowledge. In this regard HH is dull. UPND supporter group think is one of your weaknesses. You cant critically analyse each other. You know what that means in real life. You either ALL disagree or ALL agree. Nothing in between. Imagine you guys controlling an economy! Mawe
Indeed Adolf is right for once we are all concerned with the attitude of SADC. One one village headman the patron of all traditional ceremonies raced the presidential motorcade he said he was surprised he was the only one arrested and not the 20 odd other passengers in his convoy. Second he claims he does not recognize a sitting president but forgets the one he does not recognize actually heads the Security Council for Sadc. Third we know he has nothing better to do but host press conferences and attend court because his bitterness consumes him when he thinks ‘what could have been’ and in 2021 he will be an oldman
Typical substandard talk by the so called opposition leader in Zambia. What is the solution that you are suggesting? Again general statements that do not help anyone. A talk without focus just loose talk without tangible suggestions. Ecowas this Ecowas that. Don’t compare apples and oranges. What do you want SADC to do? take tankers to Zim? is that what Obasanjo advised you. If you become head of state in Zambia we want to see how you are going to deal with issues of this nature. Dialogue remains the best way to deal with conflict and not some childish emotional kneejerk reactions.
Double H political milage gone bad – thats the title of this article. Mugabe is still in power baba so what are you talking about. Still dreaming!
What wake up call is this man talking about. War lord for real!
Disaster leader of Upwinididi!
HH has no mandate to comment on the overstay issue of Robert but should first ask himself if he is really the leader of UPND. Lack of internal democracy is what has brought about the Zimbabwe crisis. This is bound to happen if and I say if the the UPND was given the chance to rule. There would be power struggle never witnessed before because some have become irrelevant and just waiting to share the spoils.
Look at the picture above. Look at the people surrounding hh: Masebo, Scott, Mulongoti….these are washed up characters who are incapable of giving sound advice. Look at Masebo, even bleached her hair to boost her image, yaba…bwafya sana!!!
Yes @8 Harold Muna, HH has made objective points here but what of him hasn’t he over stayed in UPND as the case with Robert? Don’t you think that he can also be like him if voted into office as Zambian President? If he cannot go for a convention in his party when he was just hand picked what of our elections will he agree to leave after two terms of office? So he is a wrong person to condemn Robert.
Wipe your own ASS…HH… you have overstayed…How different are you from Mugabe? Shaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
That Spaka like Donkey, is he normal? He always condemns President but he fails to answer questions about under5. If President Lungu is bad, Spaka like Donkey concludes that it is okay for under5 to be a useless donkey. Look here Spaka it is you who needs to build the image of under5, for us we have a President ruling Zambia until 2021 and if under5 will still have thd same image 6th defeat is assured. Oh sorry, forgot that under5 still to organise a convention in order to legitimise himself as a candidate in 2021!
try in Zambia uzakangena mwana our soldiers are professional officer who are loyal to the commanders, if you try any foolish thing you will be arrested mwana by the very guys you want to work with.
Tune muchembele,data interpretation governs deductive reasoning,obviously you have a handicap in this regard and of low abilities.Poor spelling remains a reliable sign of low education,dyslexics excepted.