Gospel Envoys presiding Pastor Choolwe has condemned the move by government to ban Churches in Cholera hit areas from gathering.
Pastor Choolwe was reacting to a statement by Local Government Minister Vincent Mwale who explained that bars cannot be closed entirely because alcohol turns the wheels of the Zambian economy.
In a statement posted on his Facebook page, Pastor Choolwe accused government of serious double standards in the way it handled the issue.
He said if Churches are to close because of Cholera, bars should also close.
Below is his statement
As if mere logic on churches vs bars closing was not enough I took my morning to read up interrelations between alcohol and development. Many of our fathers have spoken from the spiritual but like Daniel let me also bring in the intellectual.
ALCOHOL IN THE LONG RUN ACTUALLY DAMAGES THE WHEELS OF THE ECONOMY.
I particularly read the International Journal on Alcohol and Drug Research which is highly respected. They did a research on Alcohol and its impact in the development process and their key findings all point to the fact that the two are INVERSELY RELATED.
1. Alcohol has an impact on the health side in that it comes with several alcohol related illnesses hence increasing medical costs overtime
2. Alcohol is seen to be inimical to development. statistics show that abstinence levels from alcohol are higher the more developed a nation is….
3. Alcohol is a driver of surrogate costs such as accidents in homes , damage to property and infrastructure and even accidental loss of life.
4. Alcohol increases the cost of security and enforcement agencies by the sheer need to deploy personnel the most likely crimes drunk people will commit arising from the loss of judgment arising from its consumption . Such maybe as simple ad driving while drunk, trespass to serious loss of property and lives
Summary is that the consumption of alcohol is highest in less developed societies.
Are we so addicted or do we so depend on it for our economy that we would rather see patrons die due to cross contamination in packed bars; some without running water and with below par sanitary facilities?
THE VOICE OF THE CHURCH IS MORE CRITICAL BECAUSE IT TURNS THE WHEELS OF THE HEARTS AND MINDS OF THE PEOPLE. BARS WILL NEVER DO THIS. AND AT THIS STAGE WE NEEDED THE VOICE OF REASON AND MORAL CONSCIENCE.
Some of us accepted in good faith to work on our sanitary systems first and resume meetings when all is in place. But to leave bars open DAILY is seriously double standards.
I was comforted yesterday when I was told that bars would open on a take away basis and not people gathering but after I heard the minister in the evening, I buried my head between my palms.
For all we know most bars drive the wheels of private economies and not the national economy. Alcohol contributes highest in some economies because of the high duty and taxes imposed on it as a way of discouraging its consumption.
There are better wheels that farmers who can’t trade in markets currently due to cholera drive, there are better wheels that the vendors in the streets, the shops and eating places that were all closed drive.
But we all know that on a normal day these places are better hygiene wise than a typical bar in Zambia. Bars should have been universally shut and opened afterwards.
A drunk person will be very careless with their health no matter how you educate them. Anyway put a curfew in Kanyama but Kanyama alcohol consumers will spread it to all bars daily between 11 hrs and 18hrs.
And who needs to celebrate by taking alcohol when we are practically in mourning?
Where is Ministry of Religion and National Guidance? I thought their mandate includes guidance in such matters? People are mourning. Our hearts are all sad.
Who goes rejoicing in a bar at 11 Hours? Zambian Breweries and all beer manufacturing companies should come out straight and give guidance. One week’s business to ask all bars to clean up like churches are cleaning up will not close your businesses.
Some are claiming that churches don’t pay tax so they should close. What kind of reasoning is that. Does Cholera select whether you are a tax payer or not?
Or are we saying the eating places and shops which were earlier closed don’t pay tax? What about private schools where the salaries of the teachers may not be paid this month (subject to policy)?
And by the way how much do you pay when you bring your dead for us to bury them? Who pays for all the counsel and prayers we daily provide to different citizens of the land? Let us focus on cholera and not none issues. Close the bars
When the economy needed rains to turn its wheels , it is the church which was called to pray so today we are being indirectly told that our role does not turn the wheels of the economy ? This has been a very hard slap in the face of the church.
We are not asking for churches to carelessly meet without taking precautions but for honesty where bars are concerned. Lives in the bars matter just like lives in church.
I am extremely sad.
Choolwe shouldn’t be given credence
He is a pator. A bad one at that.
Mixing the church and politics is buzzare and just creates convion.
The ministry of religions needs passing a law to shun any bishops / pastors that mingle in politics.
The are worse themselves characters wise. Those living in glass houses …
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BB2014,2016
Mushota, argue on facts and research like Pastor Choolwe has done. Your comments lack credibility and intelligence. It’s better to be quiet than speak with ignorance.
That’s a carder mindset which never sees wisdom but speaks from the stomach.
Pastor Cholwe Mudenda, I have a lot of respect for him, GOD bless you man of GOD, THANKS forthis direction.
CHAKOLWA Nation / Cholera Nation hiding under guise of Christian Nation
He has a point but the only problem is that he is Tonga. Why is it that if you tonga then you should criticise govt.
Oval Head, you need deliverance
@Oval: kwekwekwekwekwe…..very good observation….
PEOPLE SPEND A FEW HOURS AT CHURCH AND LESS LIKELY TO CATCH CHOLERA.
On the other hand, people spend a lot of time in the bars, enter the toilet often and unlikely to wash their hand, they share drinks etc… SO WHO IS LIKELY TO SPREAD CHOLERA, A CHURCH GOER OR DRUNKARDS.
For once am with Mushota. This pastor should refuse all offerings in n Sunday morning from all beer drinking sinners
Let’s cure this choleragate mania and get all our lives back to normal … this is no time to score cheap political mileage.
Zambia Is Greater Than Any Single One Of Us ~ B R Mumba, Sr
Pure trash from Mushota. Shallow thinking from a PhD holder based in the UK.
Cabinet got it all wrong and the clergyman is right–it’s mediocre to believe that cholera will spread faster in a church than in a bar, what nonsense!
Mushota, are you sure you have PHD or it stands for something else. Let be honest with you, your arguments do not met the PHD standards. If your employers come across them they will be shaking their heads
Pastor Choolwe has provided a good argument against that put forward by that dimwit of a local government minister called Mwale. Listening to that Sunday interview, I could not believe the low levels of reasoning on the part of the minister in relation to the issue of alcohol and the economy. And he has even the tendency of putting the verb to-be “is” where there is supposed to be the plural form of “are”. Poor educational standards from a minister!
Pastor Choolwe is right. I guess you are discrediting him to earn a following.
Don’t spoil your PHD credential easily.
Mushota what the pastor has raised is true and even minister mwale by now sees sense in it. Am surprised that degree holders like yourself can’t see sense in a church gathering but gathering in a pub? Which place is more dangerous to acquire cholera? Anyway, wisdom does not require one to have a master’s degree
@Mushota Spelling iliko bad! Your grammar is worse! 5 times in your comment, you crash! (ZWA). Unfortunately, it changes the context in whatever you meant! As a Etymologist, I find this quite distasteful- Please learn how to spell at least!
1. He is a pator.
2. …….politics is buzzare
3. …….just creates convion.
4. ministry of religions
5. The ministry of religions needs passing a law to shun any bishops / pastors that mingle in politics.
“And by the way, how much do you pay when you bring your dead for us to burry?”…….this sounds so outrageous to have come from a pastor’s mouth.
I think this explains the Pastor’s sadness……just assuming though!
PhD! kikikikiki with this kind of grammatical blunders. These imagined Scottish doctorates!
Thought you ate wise,, now I see you are an insult to creation and good for nothing. I wish I could tell you more but your sake and your childishness let me hold my thoughts. YOU MUST REPENT OTHERWISE YOU WILL CONTINUE SUFFERING .
Great and intelligent article.
Where is Rev Pukuta Mwanza, where is Bishop Joshuah Banda, where is other Christian for Lungu? Is it okay to close churches and allow bars to operate? We want to hear your take in this because silence means consent because it is the government of the chosen one you support who can shut churches and allow dirty tarvens and bars to remain open yet same people will share cholera and take it to their communities.
I agree with you Mushota for once!!!
Booze kills thousands of Zambians indirectly (road accidents, domestic violence etc) and directly (cerosis and liver cancer) yet it remains legal. Green Party President Peter Sinkamba has told you that marejuana grown for medicinal purposes has the potential to raise billions of Kwacha in a single year if the nation exports to states on a forward contract basis. That is the crop is grown specific to demand requirement from the importing nation such as Israel where it is used in the pharmaceutical industry, the delegation that went to Israel visited a facilty where medicinal marijuana is grown and that is when we heard misleading statements that govt would allow it to be used under license which was later denied. Wise up Zambians, other countries such as Uganda, Rwanda and South Africa…
Ctn… Wise up Zambians, other countries such as Uganda, Rwanda and South Africa will soon start exporting medicinal marejuana and reap billions before the market is saturated!
Pastor; it is better for churches to close; you don’t want people to die in church and be accused; your Christiansd for Lungu and partly to blame for the filthy in Zambia; why didn’t they tell Lungu and PF that street vending will result in more deaths from diseases; from car accidents; i hear there other Christian for Lungu called seer1; do they only see money?
What else do you expect from a minister who doesn’t fear God? They allowed street vending to a point where cities like Lusaka became a stinking place. Even right now Ndola is still filled with street venders. Mayor Chisenga is the most unfortunate mayor who can’t act but worried of next elections. Act now.
Ba Ndola mayor remove all street venders before the situation becomes uncontrollable
Dear Pastor address the subject when you are less “sad” what you touch is the symptom not the disease! Seek Gods face again and then ask why people would protect drinking places and not the church. As for the questions of what one pays when you pray for the dead before burial. I will pretend you didn’t say that
Beer is a tool for Manipulating Youths. That is why in some places, you find it Cheaper than other beverages. So whilst reaping profits from the sales, we loose out on Production from a heavily intoxicated Mindset. It’s like saying that even prostitution is okay since it sustains a household.
Proverbs 21:17 Whoever loves pleasure will become poor; WHOEVER LOVES WINE wine and olive oil will never be rich. The bar makes others while making others rich
I thought pastors were independent of our opposition party? Even pastors can twist the truth? All politics, I thought that it was only the so called professors you know? Oh my God!!!
Oh and that misfit infamous chief soiling the mosi otunya.
Maligning the Church explains just why we have so much Moral Decadence. Sadly, this decadence has also infiltrated some Churches. But by & large, most Churches are good. We seem to prefer more, the wrong things. I don’t know if this has to do with a New World Order. For instance Music composed in the North of Africa has the same Rhythm as that composed in the South. I don’t know if it is Meant to Hypnotize us. I’ve found myself being Formatted to Rylics that I don’t even like, & singing along, unconsciously.
I am made to understand that a lot of beer and alcohol on the market is smuggled into the country hence no taxes paid… Ask anyone from livingstone and surrounding border areas.. so i am made to think that associating beer halls with running the economy is incorrect. Better to say running the economies of the ministers who ow these bars. Coming back to the article at hand, i agree that there must not be double standards… if food chains and take aways have closed, if churches have been closed, if schools have been closed, what makes bars special? Have any tests been conducted at bars like they have done in other places?
Church service turns your economy pastor but yes alcohol turns the national economy…are we together?
One of my sources of income is running a bar. It makes me more money part of which I pay to the Church. The Church has never said no to my contribution. We respect the Church and I’m sure as usual the statement may have been twisted to alarm the situation. In any case why are the pastors hell bent on congregating instead of waiting until the situation improves.
But Comrades, we are using two different judgements for the same Weight. If the Bars open, the Churches must remain open as well. Full stop. Churches are generally clean. Ifimbusu fya mu ma Bar, Ukununka. The issue here is Cholera & not the Pastors or Church income or State Revenue. Give to Ceaser what belongs to Ceaser & to God, what belongs to God. Caution: There may be a ploy or plot of the Anti Christ at play here. Resist the devil & he will flee. Do not give the devil a chance.
And why are some people against the Church, illogically. Are we embracing more of Satanism? Are the same People not flying in Crowded Aeroplanes. The issue is on Caution, & not shutting down the Economy.
Pastor there is a solution here. Just hire your nearest bars for Sunday worship. I bet you this government will on Monday ban worshipping in bars.
Government has to continue getting ALCOHOL LEVY!!!!
Pastor Choolwe. Brilliant analysis. However you mixed two economies. There is a difference between the economy of God and economy of man. This is a political analysis to deal with the economy of man. Remember that not all Zambians are Christians. You should know better by now. Do not dwell into man’s desire but into God’s desire for His kingdom. Leave Politics to deal with their economy.
Give me a beer or two so I can forget all this nonsense about some old mythical man that lives in the sky and causes humans to hate and kill each other in the name of “religion”.
Beer is full of nutrition and calories.
“Holy” books are only full of lies.
I pray you will one day realize you are lost. The same mythical man will find you and share his love with you.
May u go blind as u drive on the road. And may it be heard in the ears of all who read your post.
All drunkards click on deslike
This is a wake up call. Let us not confuse the proliferation of Foreign owned Shopping Malls with Development. This drives the economies of those Countries. There is Massive Poverty to deal with, which is being revealed in the form of this Cholera. Pictures of the drainage systems before cleaning are nauseating. There is need, not just to clean up this embarrassing situation but our consious as well.
Pastor, it is a known fact that starting from some presidents of political parties and other politicians run those bars. They are pretending to fight cholera which multiplying it in those bars allowed to open. People share same tin of chibuku while frequenting toilets without water. They don’t wash hands but come to continue touching tin of chibuku and shake hands. The Minister is worried the economy of their pocket will go empty. In Chawama, a distinguished politician runs a bar. Pray for us sinners.
Its very sad indeed and some comments here are very demonic and discouraging not like those from people of a christian nation. Bars! Open? and Churches! Closed? really? how does this promote mother Zambia being a christian nation? Actually beer patrons are more disgusting and littering dirty anywhere. Shame on all you refusing facts stated in this article and may God forgive your sins…
Zambia being declared a Christian Nation is just a ruse to massage some people’s egos. If you seriously reflected, would you consider Zambia a christian nation? Some of the disgusting beer patrons are the biggest contributors of tithes and offering in the same churches. This deception of Zambia being a christian nation should just end.
What we are saying is that this is not a man of God but the god of southern koswe. If he was a man of God he would find a civilised way of presenting issues to government.
At least he never insulted anyone at all. You have insulted him. Who is more wise and who shall honor between you two?
Pastor Choolwe good points but lets hope you are not worried about your pocket. you guys should also help the needy instead of wearing expensive suits and driving posh vehicles.
Sorry, folks. Mwale is actually right. Its just the way he put it.
Pastor Choolwe is not Tonga, he is a Christian.
the man is spot on..mwale and his colleagues value beer more than praying..watch the space!!so sad …
Nshilefwaya abakwangalila kubwalwa….Don’t you people know that alcohol is the only thing that can make everyone happy at the same time?
Leave alcohol alone in this cholera issue
churches just dont pay tax ,they dont generate any money into the economy,they only suck out like a black hole,they are parasitic in nature
“If Churches are to close because of Cholera, bars should also close”, end of quote. Why compare these two? The only comparison I can draw from these two is that owners of bars and owners of most churches are into money making. So the other party is no longer making money during this period and hence the complaints
It’s like Vincent Mwale has alot of businesses in bars and night clubs… I am equally disappointed with local government minister on the issue of bars opening to the closing of church. How I wish understood what the church really is and it’s impact and power.. Jesus says, ” On this rock I shall build my church and the gates of hell shall not prevail.” In Mathew 16:18. And instead Cholera is a gate of hell and the church which He Jesus himself built that no gate of hell like cholera shall prevail makes the church to close up and bars remain open? This nation as a christian nation has made me wonder,and where is the ministry of religion and guidance?
One must work really hard to remain stupid… Common sense is not common. The pastor is right…
Fact is it has just broken down the wheels of his church’s economy.
Mr. Mwale operates bars and night clubs. He once rented the famous ‘Namakau House’ ( if name hasn’t changed as at now) in Chilenje belonging to Given Lubinda (don’t know whether he still owns it as at now) . I think that’s where is analysis has become warped. Am a heavy boose gazzler but I believe bars should be equally closed. This would actually be a blessing in disguise as most drunks will have an opportunity to be sober, think, meditate, reason and make meaningful resolutions for 2018!
The economic driver in State house enjoys more than just one bottle of advanced Junta, what do you expect?
They don’t need votes from you as at now, therefore they don’t care about. Where are Christians for Lungu?
How can a Govt minister surely imply that bars are safer than churches by any standard a bar is a far more unhealthy and dangerous place than a church. What is going on?
The priority remains to fight the epidemic successfully, and not to debate about who is right between church and state.
Even the scripture tells us that there is time for everything, “a time to embrace and a time to refrain from embracing…”. By making the ban a subject of discussion, the Pastor is not contributing to the solution of the problem but only showing us that the church can be defiant in a national crisis.
We are willing to hear his remarks at a future date but right now, we are interested in hearing what is being done about this problem.
Those of you arguing against this otherwise, objective and most sincere assessment of government position, are only doing so under the ‘influence of alcohol’. You will only see the role of the church in national building when your own kith and Kin is infected to realise how much you need God and not a bottle of beer!. We should all be sad and sober up in the face of this national embarrassment!
Its a mystery how our minds can conceive such ideas and decisions
@ HH Oval Head… All he/she can look at is the Pastor’s name and conclude that he is only criticizing because he is Tonga. So if he had been from another tribe, but saying the same things, it would have been acceptable? This kind of thinking and expression is despicable, to say the least. Can’t you just respond to his arguments? Is it a wonder that we can’t move forward intelligently as a nation?
Pastors statement “Summary is that the consumption of alcohol is highest in less developed societies”
That’s not true at all. Am assumption and highly misleading. Developed societies consume Beer and alcoholic beverages far much more compared to developing ones.This pastor is only concerned about his pocket…simple as.
When the epidemic is sorted lets laugh about this……but people are dying now……
BEER is good and better THAN religion, be practical, religion has no EXAMINATIONS, but beer we know the results when one is drunk, for me when i drunk i Nyenga or mpwanya Nyiini better than sober. I HAMMER FOR more than one hour
Check where taxes come from
Theoretically, Pastor Choolwes statement makes sense but in reality, Zambian breweries alone contributes more money to the Zambian economy than all churches put together. Money contributed to churches benefits very few people mostly the clergymen themselves. Therefore, sadly, bars actually do help to run the wheels of the economy.
Choolwe Choolwe, how much does your organization contribute to the coffers of the government? No wonder you skip chapters in your sessions because they contradict your actions. All other businesses that have complied with the law are currently operating. Your company so called the church, starting with lower c, admits infants who do not know wrong or right and you are comparing with the bar.
Pastors allow women with babies on their backs in sometimes overnight gatherings with no consideration for the hearing damage due to the noise as they sing on top of their voices so as to be noticed by the preacher .
Iwe pastor brewing contributes a lot to our economy.
Next time you are on LT, use the bible books to justify your position.
Vincent Mwale is right.
I am going to argue that the most prosperous nations are not religious, but secular. Japan, Switzerland, Norway, Sweden, Canada etc. Religion and economy do not mix.
Abena Ng’umbo-Luapula boy – brewing kachasu, Imbamba, katata, kasonge, imbote, tu wine, are the drivers of the Zambian economy. I’m failing to get the logic from Mr. Mwale when it comes to controlling the cholera spread. How safe is it from a bar. I drink but will not definitely not go by Mr. Mwale’s advice. It is much healthier and safe if you are to avoid cholera to go to church than a bar. etc. No wonder we are where we are now.
Church will be worse because we have kids there also….Now imagine if one of them came with the disease….You seem to miss the point here, the issue is not necessary with bars, it is about big companies like Zambian breweries for instance which employ a lot of people and contribute a lot of money through tax to the economy. There are alot of jobs that have been created through beer..
@Ndetila nati
hahahahahahahah muntu wandi wansekesha saana! the way you have highlighted utu ma local brews!
Indeed such places of local brews should be avoided. But in my earlier post I might have meant products of Zambia Breweries of South Africa Breweries (ZB of SAB-Miller/Inbev of Leuven)
I’m a small scale farmer in Chongwe I can’t sell my chickens and tomatoes because the markets have been closed. My tomatoes, cabbages are rotting and I have run out of cash to buy feed for my chickens which are ready for sale. May be I should take them to the bars and sell them from there because at the market the police will pounce on me on instructions from Mr. Mwale. I agree that it may be safer to sale our merchandise from bars because these places are safer than markets in terms of cholera spread.
@Ndetila nati
muntu wandi, we dealing with depleted systems of governance in which ministers don’t think, top civil servants are busy with corruption. Usually farms aren’t sources of cholera. If say Ecoli we can advise a ban on agricultural produce because certain types of Escherichia coli exist in fresh waters and can be translocated into a plant.
Anyway you can sell your vegetables from the bars
This article is biased and it is very shallow. There are a lot of bad examples everywhere and for you to look at only the bad side of beer is not correct. I can equally provide examples of where religion itself has been a source of violence, racism, killings etc.. We need to look at the bigger picture here and call a spade a spade. I may not have the statistics but it is easy to see that the majority of young Zambians are actually secular even though we are officially a Christian nation- actions speak louder than words….I am generally not against the church BUT i am against the church deciding government policy…Politics and the church should not mix…Government sets policy and the church should not be above government because the church is not flexible.. They have nothing to offer…
Don’t forget pastors who have wrecked homes by sleeping with other people’s wives. Most beer takers have no time to go after other people’s wives, maybe ka prostitute here or there but never other people’s homes.
They have nothing to offer those who do not agree with them BUT threats…We need to be open to the fact that others may think differently and try to accommodate such people….Bars and restaurants contribute to the national economy while churches do not contribute anything since they are not taxed and all the money collected is used by those in positions of power… Lately, i have even noticed that the pentecostal churches no longer even inform the congregation how much money was collected last time and how it was used… Transparency has long gone and it has become a business…. Please government, we need money and lets start taxing the churches too…This way, maybe we could have listened to them a bit more…Cholera is here and we had let the church lead, i am quiet sure, things…
Intellectual – Is this about taxes or safety of people being allowed to assemble in a bars or church? Which is a safer place to avoid spread of cholera? Bars or Churches? Forget about taxes or pastors chewing church funds. Which is safer place?
None are safer BUT one is definitely more dangerous…and that is the church because a lot more people go to churches and this may make things worse..Understand that we cannot close all places where people gather because the economy of the country has to continue growing despite the difficult time..In the end, certain difficult things which will not negatively affect the economy have to be sacrificed…The decision is purely economical…NO OTHER MOTIVES…
Some Churches actually complied to the government directive without much ado.
He is pastor Choolwe. His name says it all, are you surprised? Minister Mwale stated that beer consumption contributes the economy GDP. This a fact and why do some people want to twist facts?
Germany is the biggest economy in Europe and has the highest beer consumption per individual per year. What has HH got to lie on this fact?
Pastor Choolwe, how much tax does the church contribute to ZRA for him to drive on good roads as he dashes to his church to give sermon, and again drive back on the same good roads with a sack of money from tithe contributions! Zero! While Zambia Breweries contributes millions of Kwacha in form of tax every year, after beer sales! Beer when taken correctly, in good manner, it has no problem! Even in the bible, Jesus made more wine after it rain out, when people wanted more! But its shocking how the Pentecosts want to dramatize the issue! No beer drinking! Meaning no tax from Zambia breweries! You are serious hypocrite!
POINT TAKEN AND BEAR IN MIND THAT TO MOST CHURCH GOERS BEER DRINKING IS THE ONLY SIN HOWEVER ANALYSE THE POMP AND CEREMONY CONNECTED TO THE MEN OF GOD IN COMPARISON TO THE POOR AND PATHETIC LIFE STYLES OF THE CONGREGANTS WHO AT TIMES PAY HEAVILY TO SOW A SEED! RELIGION IS SURELY THE OPIUM OF THE BLIND AND I GET SADDENED AT ALL TIMES.
BEER DRINKERS ARE TROUBLESOME IT IS TRUE BUT WHAT OF THE TEETOTAL WHO ENJOY ” EATING” OTHER PEOPLES WIVES AND HUSBANDS! PASTOR POLEPOLE STORY IS AC CASE IN POINT
..obviously the so called pastor choolwe must have been an 1diotic drunkard before turning to the pulpit to hide his shameless past…how can he have so much grudge on revellers…instead of tabulating why the church should be allowed to remain open he is busy outlining why bars must be closed…this kind of thinking happens among the 5 year olds…he thinks those who settled on these decisions are as dull as he is…they even know better than his uncoordinated thoughts….
Where will the president go if you close up all the ****
Besides bar owners are smugglers and contribute handsomely to campaigns.
All in all it’s politics of the belly.
The hypothesis of the good pastor lacks an anti thesis. In countries that are evangelised with whatever religion or faith, is there corresponding high development? Did USA, GB or Germany develop because of or in spite of religion?
The church is a parasite. It pays no tax, contributes nothing to the economy, makes its faithful work like passive slaves for corporates and itself. Discourages independent thought, supports patronism, hides moral depravity. It promises peace and life after toil and death.
If Choolwe’s hypothesis is correct then the middle east, southern Europe and far east should be most organised and civil places on earth. I speak not of wealth but development. Our, tradition, culture, breeding, habits, ethos and social construct are not dev oriented. That’s why we behave as savages.
Put a savage in fine clothes and they will be a savage in fine clothes. Teachva savage to drive, do medical procedures, complex mathematical work or gymnastics. They will be a savage still. A savage only uses what is given and produces rudimentary tools. If you have been educated but have developed nothing, you are a savage.
If you live in a house with all creature comforts but drive on a dusty/muddy road, you are a savage.
Have a PhD with an account choked with money – all stolen and used to buy more stuff = u r a savage.
An 1diot that affects a faux American accent or Nigerian one. Uses NLP and motivation talks peppered with bible verses, is chuffed by church size and numbers of faithful tithe payers, uses God for fund raising and to bonk women in church, then you are a savage. Paaaaaasterrrrr!
The points from that research the pastor referred to is spot on. But not in the times like this, its applicable in an ideal situation. Here, its about fighting what will crumble down everything down if we are not careful including the flock the pastor is herding.
MUSHOTA I hought you are wise and you PHD should have poured correct things in your brain,, now I see you are an insult to creation and good for nothing. I wish I could tell you more but your sake and your childishness let me hold my thoughts. YOU MUST REPENT OTHERWISE YOU WILL CONTINUE SUFFERING .
Choolwe lacks reality.Alcohol is consumed every day and the offerings at church are done only on sunday.How much money is spent on beer and how much is left at church.Lets be realistic.
Pastor Choolwe is dead right. Minister Mwale erred and I’m sure by now he regrets his statement.
Pastor Choolwe your church contributes nothing to the GDP, You don’t pay tax of any kind all you are missing is tithe and church offering kwasila..Let bars make sells and pay tax and keep the economy on track..You greedy people you chew tithe alone and pretend to be holy “geramauva”!! Give us imwe!!