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If NDC wants to use Kambwili for the Dialogue Meeting, the Decision should be respected-Kakoma

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UPND Spokesman Charles Kakoma
UPND Spokesman Charles Kakoma

The United Party for National Development says the National Democratic Congress party is free to choose who should attend the Church Mother Bodies-led national dialogue slated for the 18th January, 2019.

UPND Chairperson for Information and Publicity Charles Kakoma says if the NDC wishes that its consultant Dr. Chishimba Kambwili should represent it, that should be respected since that is the party’s choice and no one should stand in the way of the party’s constitutional choice.

Mr. Kakoma says the UPND values the national dialogue and respects the decisions of other parties that will be represented by representatives of their choice including the NDC.

He said the debate therefore on who should attend the Church-led dialogue is not necessary as issues to be discussed affect all citizens irrespective of their status.

Mr. Kakoma said Zambians must set priorities right and avoid discussing issues that will not in any way foster peace and development in our nation.

He said Zambia must as a country must place the interest of the people first and this is why in the UPND we say Zambia and Zambians first.

According to Patriotic Front (PF) Deputy Media Director Antonio Mwanza , only political party presidents and their Secretary Generals have been invited by the Church and the Zambia Centre for Inter-Party Dialogue (ZCID) to attend the national political dialogue meeting slated for January 18, 2019,

Mr Mwanza said that it was, therefore, not possible for people with different positions in political parties to attend the meeting.

Mr Mwanza was reacting to sentiments by National Democratic Congress consultant Chishimba Kambwili that there will be no dialogue without him.

Mr Kambwili was quoted in some sections of the media saying he will forcibly attend as NDC consultant failure to which all opposition political parties will walk out of the meeting. Mr Kambwili is alleged to have made the remarks on Sunday.

“The national dialogue will not take place should the ZCID and PF succeed in eliminating me from the process,”Mr Kambwili is quoted in the publication.

Mr Kambwili alleged that the ZCID and PF are scared of him, hence alleged schemes to bar him from the process.

“With or without ZCID, I am attending that dialogue process under NDC as its consultant. And if they don’t want, there will be no dialogue to talk about because all opposition political parties will walk out,” Mr Kambwili charged.

But the PF said Mr Kambwili’s assertions do not hold water because there is no such thing as party “consultant”.

“What Mr Kambwili should know is that only party presidents and their respective Secretary Generals will be allowed to attend. Anyone else will not be party to the process. Consultants are not invited and proxies are not allowed. This is a serious meeting it’s not manyengwe (playing). There is no place for drama, comedy and political immaturity,” Mr Mwanza said.

Mr Mwanza advised Mr Kambwili, as a PF member of parliament, to communicate his concerns or contributions through the PF Copperbelt Chairman, His Worship, Cllr. Nathan Chanda to the party President, His Excellency Mr. Edgar Lungu on what will be discussed.

“It is up to the opposition presidents and their respective Secretary Generals to walk out in solidarity with the PF Roan MP or stay in the meeting and make progress. As for us, we will seat in there and discuss with the church mother bodies and whoever shall remain in the meeting,” Mr Mwanza said.

46 COMMENTS

  1. Yes Kambwili should be allowed to attend if he resigns from the PF.

    These talks are just a waste of time anyway as they will not change the plight of poor citizens.

    And no money that is been stolen will get returned.

    • Kambwili must resugn from PF if he is to attend. He can not tobela Kubili! its either you forgo gratuity or attend the meeting. The choice is yours.
      UPND is scared of CK and is offering lip-service support. CK? He can’t Never!!!

    • Upnd are a clown of a party. How do you support such. In what capacity should fentizo attend the leaders meeting. Fentizo is still pf roan mp thats the fact. If you want him to attend then any mp can attend. For now fentizos boss is ecl.

    • It’s the church mother bodies that are chairing the meeting, they are the ones to give us how the meeting will be conducted and who should attend, we all know pf cadre mentality of ” saying you will see, i will make your life difficult”. Make someone’s life difficult monga ndiwe uleta oxygen.

    • Why is Kambwili hanging on to PF? Why can’t be man enough and completely leave the party. This is people lose it. If it was football you would be excused to say ” he’s on loan to NDC….” But this politics and serious business where people’s lives are at stake. Anyway Kakoma has always defied sense.

    • I like just how Chishimba Kambwili has an ability to get under people’s skins. He really has the X-Factor about him, a real thorn.

    • I agree this gathering will just be a waste of time. My recommendation is that the President must not waste the Zambian people’s time & instead used it to give Zambians the 500,000 jobs he promised to magically create. Not waste time on attention seekers

    • I can safely say that an MP is without doubt a MEMBER of a political party that sponsored him/her in the election that was won. However, its difficult to say a consultant is a MEMBER of the party that is consulting him. Membership is key on this issue and I think Mr. Consultant is not in locus standi on this matter.

  2. Under which law do they use to bar c.k from attending dialogue? please hatoni mwanza give us section cup you are using to bar chishimba kambwili from attending that meeting.

    • Naim we sure. ..can you tell us under what law the dialogue is going to be held. There are principles that must be adhered. PF will be represented by so and so and Kambwili is legally PF and he’s not that so and so. This is serious business and not for clowning.

    • Under the Constitution. The constitution requires all Zambians to uphold certain values and principles, among which is morality. You’ll note that it is immoral to purport to belong to two different parties at the same time. It also shows a lack of Principles.

      In addition, the Constitution now demands parties to demonstrate intra-party democracy. In this vein, all the attending parties should declare their membership to the specific parties they’re purporting to represent at the Dialogue, either by membership card or letter of accreditation.

      If a party such as the PF observe that their party member is purporting to represent another party, they have the moral and legal right to protest and even object. This is what is at play here….

    • It’s not that they’re afraid of anyone. In fact, the best test to see if they’re afraid is to resign from PF.

      However, you’ll also find that in the Constitution a person cannot be allowed to stand as an independent if they were a member of a political party within the last two months preceding the election.

      So how can one even think of representing another party while being a serving member of parliament on another party platform. Let’s be serious, and demand seriousness from those who want to lead us…

  3. Kambwili is overrated as a “leader”. He is just a riff raff who the UPND are better off not trying to use in attempt to gain political mileage.

    There are people in Zambia whom I will never consider voting for regardless of which party adopts them and Kambwili is one character I consider such.

  4. Kambwili does not make sense both in word and deed. His presence in the meeting will be poisonous, and render the whole process comical. No serious party, members of the clergy and ZCID should attend it.

  5. How is that even a headline. The bedfellows have nothing to offer.

    A Goat Drama: When Useful Idi*ots Dressed as Goats in Sheep Skin ‘Congregoat’ in a Comical Goat-Together!

  6. Jokers, jokers and jokers all the way. If NDC uses Kambwili; PF uses Kadobi or Bowman; UPND uses Sean Tembo; and MMD uses Chiluba, and Green Party uses Seven Spirits, are we serious as nation?

    I foresee the proposed talks end up as waste of time and resources if the church allows proxies in the upcoming talks

  7. Why is it that UPND supports every stupidity, what values do you stand on as a party? UPND should change if you ever want to win an election.I feel as a citizen, UPND is not adding value to the politics of this country.Kambwili is pf MP,and there is nothing like consultant.If he wanted it to be the way he wants,why did he appeal the expulsion judgement? UPND shouldn’t show ignorance,kakoma Mwata mwakolo,mwatusawisa!

    • Sadly this is what has become of our politics. People are willing to support wrong things as long as it pits them against their “enemies.”

    • Values? They have values and these are to get to State House using any means even if it means using a demon possessed person.

    • Kayombo Ngimbu – UPND and Kakoma are a useless lot. This position of UPND, in fact, shows that they are not serious about the dialogue. Thy should not waste the Republican President’s time if this is a joke to them.

  8. OK let CK attend then ECL is not attending PF will send its consultant to attend.So Kakoma donot complain over that coz it will be PF’s choice and it must be respected.

  9. Its only a stupid person or a group of fools who can ask an MP for another party to represent them in a meeting of presidents.

    This is the very reason i dont support UPND because the reason is very low.

  10. OK Fine, NDC can send Kambwili to the Talks and that Party is free to chose whoever they want.
    PF therefore also wishes to state that we have chosen Sunday Chanda and his Deputy to attend the dialogue.
    We have realized the dialogue is not for the Party Presidents and we respect that.

    • Sunday Chanda , Antonio Mwanza and Raphael Nakachinda, ni dialogue yanyoko? Who are you to bar others as if this country belong to your mothers.Give us a break your noisy is so irritating.

  11. Talking about irrelevant issues that won’t add value to their political fortunes meanwhile Sesheke is in danger of falling to PF. PF has been reorganizing its grassroots at ward, local and provincial level while upnd are parading in the media. This dialogue is a waste of time. What is the agenda??? DRC, a country at war, is the one that needs dialogue. Not dialogue because an egotistical and incompetent opposition leader wants to appear important.

  12. UPND your sickness has no cure for sure. You always side with everything not making sense. Kafenta is PF and and the president is H.E E.C Lungu. Why should this kafenta attend. In what capacity when he is not president. Let NDC S.G attend. Tell your Kafenta to resign he can not have it both ways. Ubu bukopo thats why he did not see this.

    • Even if Kambwili is PF property, we need dialogue for his misunderstanding to be understood. This is the all purpose of dialogue . Actually it will be well if even other institutions like LAZ are made to part of it.

  13. Citizen,mufu,Musa and kayombo you have come up with good defense, but you are not caughting your agment from the book of the law , otherwise people may end up by saying that , you don’t know what you are talking .Next time guys use the law to defend your points ,as at now kambwili is free to attend that meeting.He may be a king , queen or consultant as long as he is the one leading that party is free to attend the dialogue.remember rupia Banda managed to attend two ceremony’s in 1 minute for Felix mutati and Edgar lunga when he was signing the constitution.in short let c.k be in NDC and PF.

    • Halfpant – You have it all twisted. What Law do you want cited? Kambwili as Member of PF DOES NOT HAVE A RIGHT TO ATTEND THE MEETING WITHOUT PF GIVING HIM PERMISSION TO DO SO – DO YOU GET IT? PF WILL CHOOSE WHO SHOULD ATTEND THE MEETING AND IF THEY CHOOSE KAMBWILI – FINE.

  14. Antonio Mwanza, Nakachinda, Sunday Chanda are at the helm of the nonsense of stopping others from attending the dialogue. To all those opposed ni dialogue yanyoko?

  15. Hahaha” I will forcibly attend the national dialogue” This is one of the good reasons why this chap should not be intertained even to come near the street where the so called dialogue is to take place. Infact it is the “opposition” that needs dialogue more than the ruling party. If for some reason the so called opposition parties insist that this chap Kambwili must attend then his Excellency the President ECL should not attend. Jean Kapata and Lusambo should be in the street near the dialogue venue to Baptise Kambwili.

  16. Let Kambwili attend the dialogue, but PF should be represented by Bowman Lusambo and Steven Masumba. As UPND is contending, each party is free to select who to represent it. Then let’s see how serious the deliberations will be.

  17. Unfortunately our politics are laden with people who can’t reason. The question Kakoma needs to answer is: can the UPND nominate members of Chipimo’s Party to represent them? We told Kambwili and Kalaba to leave the PF so that they lead their Parties properly but they thought they can deceive everyone. Now their mischief has caught up with them

  18. This is dialogue involving presidents and secretary generals of respective political parties who are bonafide members of of these parties,eg pf..ecl /davies mwila,up nd..hh/c.kakoma,narep..chipimo/——-,ndc..(———-)/mwenya musenge,etc.so the best ck shud do is to resign from pf right away to avoid unnecessary debates.

  19. Mr abilima, I thought chishimba kambwili was chased from PF together with Mr mwenye musenge just after that they formed NDC party under the lead ship of ck as consultant.let us use law not suggestions when we are talking about national matter.No twist done here.

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