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President Lungu rules out national dialogue with HH’s camp, the President wont sit at a table with criminals

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HH and President Lungu meet at late Munkombwe’s burial in Choma
HH and President Lungu meet at late Munkombwe’s burial in Choma

President Lungu’s Special Assistant for Press and Public Relations Amos Chanda yesterday said that President Lungu will not engage himself in dialogue with rogue elements who want to subortage country by plastering falsehoods to the International community.

Responding to queries on what next with regards to the dialogue process following the political impasse in Sesheke, Presidential Spokesperson said President Lungu will concentrate on governing the country as he has been elected to do so and will not be bullied to a round table with what he described as minute, self centered brains.

“You can’t engage in dialogue with rogue elements. A government has been elected with a clear mandate within the provisions of the Constitution; the President will carry on with the business of governing, and he cannot be bullied to go onto a table with people whose brain is the size of a rat! He cannot be bullied into a conversation with people like that,” Mr. Chanda said, “On the same table with a criminal? What sort of dialogue can take place?”

Mr Chanda went on to say, the Minister of Justice Given Lubinda had issued a statement in Parliament after the Government had waited all along to bring the Constitutional Bill, Public Order Act, to the dialogue table wit no progress.

“You are not going to govern from outside. The Bills will be presented to Parliament, the President will continue to govern, he has Executive powers, ” said Mr Chanda before adding that President Lungu did not need to entertain or work with rogue law breakers to govern Zambia.

“Where criminal elements begin to disrupt law and order, the law will take its course. The President can govern without those rogue elements,” Mr Chanda highlighted.

He went on to emphasize that President Lungu was not tolerant to any form of violence from any political faction.

“The President has ordered the police not to tolerate any form of violence whatsoever from any quarters. Whether the rogue elements in the police are UPND, the law will take its course so there will not entertainment of any form of violence whatsoever,” said Mr. Chanda.

85 COMMENTS

  1. Yes sir you are the president, we will not allow chaps who rule clique of tribal blinded archaic bantusan..ECL its time to show them who is boss.

    • Amos Chanda does not know that a rat is bigger than any human being’s brain. It seems amos chirping crow has a brain of an ant, busy making anthills out of nothing.
      Zambia needs dialogue and soon PF and especially President Lungu and all his inner circle minions will need dialogue and mercy petitions when new president comes into power and gives free hand to law enforcement agencies to get every corrupt oldrug and nigga behind the bars

    • Now that is firm leadership. That is what I call leading with ultimate precision. I am glad that you have realized what a cone and clown alien double h and his grouping have lately turned out to be. Make you get your eyes off the ball. Take away, “…he cannot be bullied to go onto a table with people whose brain is the size of a rat!”. That sums it up gentlemen. Now follow my free Guide on this issue. You have all the data, double h thinks and believes that you cannot arrest him again because some section of the intl. community blockered his release. Kindly move in and put him away for a long time if he messes up in word and behavior. Also check GVBM, he is unusually quiet, a militia could be taking form secretly somewhere with him. I don’t ‘look him’ well well.

    • Rogue elements aka moles, are inspired by a spirit of masonry. A dark world that seeks to disrupt public order.
      Can you imagine that it has continued to sow disdain days after the 2016 polls. It has not relented. Light and Darkness cannot mingle. Sounds like elected Governments seeking to engage rebel rogue elements to a round table to end acrimony. Government and disgruntled political elements can only resolve political differences through civil societies that includes courts of law. Parley make and adjust laws. A democratic society understands this. Folks no other forum can address double’s concerns. He has gotten away with it thus far. Trynna wind up a country into un undemocratic state. If you dont believe in democratic institutions, civil societies which includes the courts, then…

    • Mr Chanda tone down, your language does not suit your position. i was disappointed when you insulted mr Kambwili i thought you where framed or provoked but you have continued to be vulgar and that does not lie in great leaders. We have seen spokespersons of great men like Gardaffi disappear after to much talkative.
      Please brother man show respect to other human being regardless of your status in society. Remember the Holy Bible NOT by power NOR by Mighty but by the Spirit all things are possible. Even the one you regard rats will follow you if you use your soul and not mighty. Seek God when he can be found and seek dialogue when it is possible. We have seen beggars being begged.

    • On Jan 5: Chanda Said
      “.. Head of State is committed to the national dialogue process and is hopeful that ZCID and Church mother bodies will create a platform that will build confidence and competence in the process.”
      “…Mr Chanda said that President Lungu has been engaging the Catholic Bishops and other church member bodies to find a proper functional arrangement for holding the national dialogue.”
      “….Mr Chanda said the process has already began to explore arrangements to include the Zambia Centre for Interparty Dialogue”
      WHAT HAS CHANGED? IS THIS GUY PAID TO FABRICATE LIES?

    • Yet he will not fire and even sit to discuss national issues with a person arrested for criminal behaviour? Some wires must be lose.

    • We told you this dialogue was a publicity stunt by Lungu & his PF.

      Same like this corruption, its just a publicity stunt. Who doesn’t know that Lungu is in the pockets of AVIC & other Chinese. Mark my words, chitotela & eric chimese will be acquitted by the rotten judiciary.

    • My experience in the political arena over the years has taught me one thing about political dialogue. That is a dictator only accepts to dialogue when he senses that his hold on power has slipped away by way of a huge people protest(Arab spring) or military action(civil war or an invasion eg Gaddafi Libya, Yaya Jameh Gambya or Gbagbo Ivory coast. Unfortunately by then it is normally too late to win any concessions from the opposing group. We all know what happened to these dictators. Lungu and his stooges will face the same consequences if they continue to be arrogant and no one will be blamed for their suffering because their arrogance has totally blinded them.

      Its just one day Lungu will wake up to the realisation that power has been taken out of his hands by people and the…

    • Its just one day when lungu will wake up to the realisation that power has been taken out of his hands by people and the opposition. By then it will be too late to negotiate his exit.

      Word of warning: Political arrogance paves the way to Dog like death similar to the deaths of Mobutu, Ghaddafi , Saddam, Hitler,and spain’s last dictator.

      Lungu should take the opportunity now when the people still have a little faith in yhim and the opposition is ready and willing to dialogue.

      If Lungu rigs and forces his hold on power past 2021, then 2022 will be the year Lungu will regret having imposed himself on the people.

    • Insele ba president inseleee! Bushe nimwebo nangu ni Amos using this unpresidential language?
      Ati “whose brain is the size of a rat!”
      Ndemona nimwebo pantu Chanda teti eshibe size Ya koswe. He knows the size of a monkey’s brain

  2. At first I would see a difference between upendi and PF not anymore.

    They behave same ways. Same level of childishness .

    We are soon launching a new political party

    • @ Its political, you have my support. A party that will work for the interests of the Zambian people. Like someone said on this forum, let PF and UPND leadership and their cadres hold hands and massively go to work in the Middle East. That would get rid of the criminals and at the same time create jobs for Zambians. I am sure it would make a lot of Zambians happy. PF and UPND, we are tired of you and your ways.

    • These are wasted years…Lazy Lungu mirrors Hakainde if he is childish he will also do the same…he is out of depth in State House and am not saying Hakainde is the alternative Zambia needs a new breed of leaders!!

  3. You Sunday Chanda and your boss Edgar Lungu you are the criminals yourselves. You are hurting to the Zambian people.
    Sunday Chanda your ending will be very bad in your political career because you are dishonest. You trade in lies trying to camouflage the dirty that you and Lungu do in your stinking PF Government. If Sunday Chanda were an honest person, you would have stopped Nkandu Luo from removing meal allowances for our children at University.
    So we don’t respect your rantings because you have never come out strongly to defend the vulnerable in our country thru your policies.

  4. That’s good, because if you allowed yourself to attend the so called national dialogue, you were going to be alone and with ten so called alliance. Can that be a dialogue. We have given you the mandate of ruling Zambia and don’t follow the lost sheep(Alliance). They think by forming up an alliance they will win. Kuloba ilyauma.

  5. The id!ot is the criminal himself, is he talking about his drunk useless self, what a moron…. The chap is so useless good for drinking and peeing himself… What a stup!d meno meno prick… Calling him stup!d is an insult to stup!d people

  6. Well done president Edgar Lungu for taking this move!!Let arrogant and loser Kainde dialogue with his fellow losers such as Milupi,sick Mike Mulongoti,etc.There is nothing good which can come out of a meeting with desperate HH’s team-mark my words!!!SOME OF US PREDICTED THAT THE SAID DIALOGUE WILL 100% FAIL AND FOR SURE IT HAS FAILED DUE TO HH’S ARROGANCY AND DESPERATION FOR POWER!!!
    Just continue developing Zambia ba PF and ignore Kainde’s team 100%!!!

  7. There we go fast down the road of self destruction.Mr.Chamda and all who care about Zambia should know that UPND long resolved to be as violent as PF(remember “Panga for Panga” resolution?). You can no longer brush off UPND as rogue elements to be severely dealt with by police,we are way past this form of governance.Please save us with a semblance of dialog.Parliament ratifies recommendations of constitutional (reform)commissions.You can do the same with recommendations of a dialog process

    • MuZambian – Just because UPND is the major opposition is not enough to absolve them of being called rogue elements. How many times has HH cried to the international community that ECL wanted to assassinate him? Even when the same international community has bluntly told him that if ECL wanted to assassinate him he can do it without much ado. Rogue elements put all sorts of missiles on the roads to block the President from using the roads – sent bees, sent lighting and one person was killed. They hired police to maim Ruling Party supporters at the Police Station – each time UPND cadres are beaten by Police, it is in the field in the act. Why were PF cadres beaten after being apprehended? Then after messing up in Sesheke they cry to the International Organizations that the President has set…

  8. Like it or not if I were Lungu I would do the same. The disrespect and animosity shown by the tribalists Milupi and Hakainde towards the presidency is beyond imagination. You the same people who are supporting this nonsense would definitely do the opposite if the position was reversed i.e.Hakalema is president and Edgar is opposition. I have a lot to say about these two masquerades but I reserve that for next time.

  9. ““The President has ordered the police not to tolerate any form of violence whatsoever from any quarters. Whether the rogue elements in the police are UPND, the law will take its course so there will not entertainment of any form of violence whatsoever,” said Mr. Chanda.”
    Ba Chilufya Tayali has on several occasions mentioned infiltration of Government Ministries and departments by ba shonongo and no one listened to him. He claims he even has a list of these rogue characters.

    • Yours are not far fetched statements. Some of them don’t even bother to hide the fact that they are there to frustrate government. ..they in councils, civil service and even in certain church organizations. Lungu must open his eyes. KK saw it and acted quickly by banning their parties. Now I can see clearly why KK had to come back and reclaim the Unip presidency.

    • The police itself is now psychologically split, confused and demoralized.There is a state of passive revolt,nowonder the necessity to ban social media groups by police high command.
      Those who will obey orders from high command shall be using excessive and deadly force while those against will be colluding.I even see situations we’re police are “disarmed” by party cadres.
      The current political environment requires intelligent dialog.Not emotions and threats.Dont take peace for granted.It has to be worked for.Who ever thought police could one day turn against PF cadres

    • 2.1 You lie
      Everybody has a right to associate to any legal grouping, be it a church, religion, political, company et cetera. This is one of the fundamental human rights in Zambia. Police and other Government institutions have normal people and citizens who may belong to one or more of the groupings highted above. Even a pastor has a right to belong. Police have sworn to impartially serve the people of all backgrounds. There should be zero tolerance to a visibly partisan (cadre) cop, lawyer, teacher, pastor, reporter, TV station, nurse, agricultural officer, leader of a parastatal, minister etc. An MP or President must not be seen to be partisan when carrying out national tasks except when they are campaigning and are in parliament or party function. At least ideally.

    • 2.1 ignore comment meant for 2.2
      Cont’d.
      It is wildly wrong to claim that this is the only time police are split in being silently partisan but it is true that this is the time they appear to be LOUDLY AND VISIBLY partisan with a Sesheke case in point being hyper evidential.
      Time and again, double h has repeatedly assured police that he is fighting for them. That they are poor and he is fighting his fight for them. You heard him in Eastern province. How charming prince charming double h. The fainthearted police in the region have no choice but to believe him forgetting that they were trained and swore to protect public order unequivocally and impartially.
      The Government should not waiver in Isolating the rogue elements in civil service. This can not be accepted as the new normal…

    • …because the results are disastrous.
      This problem is prominent in the double h charmed regions. For Government they must breakthrough and Institute refresher courses to save whitewashed public servants.

  10. Amos too many excuses have been made concerning the president and dialogue. What is it you ar4e afraid of letting the president sit and dialogue with the opposition? You amos are thinking of self and are not thinking of the country. Should there be chaos in Zambia are you going to enjoy your money?

  11. In the dialogue process, stakeholders are not being being sincere. Supposing the dialogue succeeds, the resolutions will have to go through parliament and accented to by the president before they become law. Now, we have some stakeholder in the country who do not recognise the existance of a republican president. Are they going respect and endorse the amended laws accented to by a president they don’t recognise? Are they really serious with a dialogue that may not eve produce acceptable changes to our laws? I think they’re just politicing for nothing.

  12. Leadership comes and goes but Zambia will ever be there. We had leaders who equated themselves to God but where are they now? We had leaders who were even grabbing other peoples’wives.Where are they?Zambia is for all Zambians.The baton of leadership will always be moving from generation to generation.What sort of nation are we going to bequeath to our children and grand children if we cannot iron out our differences.Fissures of hatred and disunity, if they are not mended will spill over to another crop of leaders.This can be seen in the way privatization policy was formulated and implemented.It has created unnecessary suffering among the youths.There was no leadership in the sale of our companies. The end result has been creation of unemployment.

  13. The retired officer Wakungoma’s CV include a bullet were indicates that he was once involved in training at inter-city bus terminal.Can somebody who knows what am talking about shade light for me on what this training entailed.

  14. You can deny all you want, but all these problems boil from the fact PF thuggery under lungu against the opposition is at its peak …..you have opposition members banned from interacting with members of the public…..you have PF caders dishing out instant justice on opposition in full view of police ………you have opposition and other civil groups banned from protesting while pf hold impromptu protest as they wish , anywhere ….

    Lungu is to blame for all this, he knows exactly what goes on…

  15. Time is coming when Edgar Lungu will wish he had hastened to the dialogue table, but it will be too late and this same Lungu will be in a spot where he cannot change things. The time for reckoning will have come!

    • Sage
      It is like watching a movie you already watched but just watching it again to see how PF crumbled.You cant surround yourself with so many dull people and survive.Go to Zambianobserver they have an article of PF ministers qualifications.It shall soon be too late for dialogue and that is when Lungu will wake up…

  16. We all knew Lungu was looking for an opportunity to chicken out from dialogue because his Agenda to use finished ZCID to champion his agenda was rejected. Its the reason the likes of Nakachinda from former MMD was appointed to fulfil the mission. Lungu would prefer see violence continue instead of dialogue. Well that is the result of being sorrounded by the Kaizers and Sikazwes as advisors plus chaps like Amos Chanda whose journalism is to insult adults.

  17. I said it that ,it won’t work. True dialogue will be after 2021. So let’s move on and wait for that time.

  18. Why would the opposition clamour for dialogue with someone they say is a candidate for ICC? Dialogue is a two way thing, they must be mutual respect on both sides if this so called national dialogue is to take place.

  19. Good move Mr. President. Hakainde and his cohorts do not mean well for this country. Why should we need a dialogue as if the country is on fire. The people out there, including US and UK, see Zambia as a stable country politically. It is only in the sick heads of those who are conceived in the alliance that the country is up in flames. Hakaishindawila is so desperate for power that he has reached a point of “I DONT CARE”. He may not care even when this country goes up in flames because of his desperation for power. if he is not tamed now hh has the potential to set the country on fire in 2021 when he loses. He will not be ready to go down alone looking at what he has unprofitably invested in politics, and also his financiers are asking for their money back hence his desperation.

  20. Kainde and kakuta, listen to me,

    Now the PF at statehouse have found how damaging video evidence of their violence is ……they will be a danger to your activists gathering footage using the traditional means …….you need to invest in covert cameras for your activists.

  21. GBM and Kambwili were once part of Lungu’s PF but now they’re criminals? Bwana Lungu has become the judiciary he’s tried them and found them guilty.

  22. Comment:small chap with small mind surely power and stolen wealth corrupts one day just one day you will be out of power I shudder what will remain of you with such sarcastic language God will punish you time of reckoning is closing in it will be the harder they come the harder they will fall

  23. This Chanda guy is a disgrace. Even if he disagrees with the other camp, his choice of words is pathetic and belongs to street boys and violent gangs not a person speaking for the president of a country.

  24. Who cares if he doesn’t want dialogue? The dialogue is meant for the sake of peace for the majority Zambian pipo,and not Only political parties,so whoever doesn’t want to attend or have dialogue,we won’t Berg you coz 2021 is near

  25. UPND and HH are a terrorist group and should never be taken on with kid gloves they should be hit with the same force they’re terrorising our citizens and later cry wolf to the ill informed international media

  26. Before a patient dies, there is some degree of extraordinary strength that manifests. Pf is a dying party no wonder this virulent attacks on the opposition and the church.

    • You’re being fed on falsehoods. Someone takes a photo of disused warehouse at a Zaffico depot and posts it as a school under the PF government and you believe it. Because you’re so obsessed with HH you don’t ask simple questions such as: If this a school how come it’s empty of students and teachers or how come this place has had no school since independence and if so why should we blame the current government. Fortunately your propaganda will only satisfy the Internet.

  27. The real criminal is HH, at his age where did he get the money to be richest in Zambia, beating old men business men like Satwant Singh! Its only in Zambia where nonsense like political dialogue are entertained! A country is governed by constitution not any other nonsense!

  28. What dialogue? I have said before that one known trib.al looks at dialogue as a platform to show the nation that he is also important, addressing the President only as Mr Lungu, not the appropriate protocol.

    On the other hand, this trib.al has missed his chance for dialogue, too much procrastination …….too late.

  29. …didn’t dialogue come up as a result of the stup*****y of one trib.al that landed himself in a correctional facility? Well, he is no longer behind bars so what dialogue you trib.als???

  30. Do your own dialogue, why killing of people is only in Western and southern provinces? Other tribes ran away and stopped doing business in the same provinces.Why? Please do your own dialogue ba UPND and PF. Innocent people got injured in Sesheke. Dialogue for what?

  31. There is no reason why ECL should sit on the same table with desperate, vulgar , pseudo and violent opposition politicians. There can be no justification whatsoever why this so called Opposition party should be perpetrating violence in country largely known to peaceful.

  32. It is a cardinal rule of physics.That you do not judge an object by it’s physical dimensions.A bullet is small but it can fell a big man.Peter Carlos Hinds.

  33. What the Gambian president should do is hang a white man.Yes whites are guilty.Guilty of undermining the black effort.Peter Carlos Hinds.

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