Justice Minister Given Lubinda
Justice Minister Given Lubinda

Justice Minister Given Lubinda has said that the executive is determined to ensure that the judgment of the Constitutional Court on Ministers who remained in office is implemented once the Deputy Registrar of the constitutional Court concludes assessment to establish how much should be paid.

Mr. Lubinda said that after the assessment the debt collection department under the Justice Ministry will execute the order to recover the monies.

Mr Lubinda said that he could however not state how long the assessment will take because that is up to the Constitutional court.

And Mr. Lubinda stressed that there was no breach of the law at the time the Ministers stayed in office saying the law might have been interpreted differently.

This was in response to Katombola Member of Parliament Derrick Livune who wanted to know if President Edgar Lungu broke the law by allowing the Ministers to continue serving after parliament was dissolved.

Mr. Lubinda explained that the statement was only taken to Parliament now because this is when the matter was concluded by the constitutional court.

He said this in response to Senga Hill Member of Parliament Kapembwa Simbao who wanted to know why it has taken so long for the statement to be taken to parliament.

Mr. Lubinda said his duty was not to interpret the Constitutional Court judgment on the matter.

This was in response to nominated Member of Parliament Raphael Nakachinda who wanted to know whether decisions made by the cited ministers, such as debt contraction and other key decisions would also be nullified.

The Constitutional Court has ordered the ministers to pay back emoluments paid to them when the National Assembly was dissolved in 2016.

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  1. Some dirty Gimmick here! I doubt it. This will never happen. There are two contradicting statements here. One is that it was not illegal for them to stay in office at the time and the other is that Ministers shall pay. Same mouth.
    We are being taken for a ride! What wrong have we done sure to deserve all this??????
    Disaster!!!

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    • @RudeMonk
      I agree and i quot “Praise and curses come from the same mouth. … the tongue we bless our Lord and Father, and with it we curse men, who have been made in God’s likeness. My brethren, these things ought not so to be. James 3:9-10”. Its a situation where after realizing that you’ve been milking a dead cow, then you come up with the lamest of excuses

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    • Goven Lubinda is the same chap who was saying he wasnt going to pay back. Now today he is saying the opposite without even a hint of remorse. But anyway, its good that you are feeling the heat. People are disgusted with your lack of respect for the rule of law.
      Even though we equally see your little ruse. It is not the duty of the court to do the assessment. You are trying to find a way out by turning thing back on the court. Don’t think you are clever. It will catch up with you.

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    • Is this a ploy to sway us from the already known Bill 10 ruling this coming Friday? We already know what uyu ndani wants so even if you try to legitimize Concourt rulings now it’s a bit too late.

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    • THEY SAY THE LAW IS AN ASS (MEANING STUPID LIKE A DONKEY)
      IN THE SAME VEIN, THE RULING TO REPAY THE MONIES WAS ASININE (MEANING RIDICULOUS)
      GOVERNMENT DOES NOT SHUT DOWN BECAUSE OF AN ELECTION!
      MINISTERS CONTINUE WORKING, JUST LIKE GOVERNMENT, UNTIL THE NEXT LOT OF MINISTERS ARE APPOINTED!!!
      MINISTERS SHOULD REFUSE TO REPAY THE MONIES
      THE WHOLE THING WAS LOOKED AT THROUGH A PRISM OF PERSONALISATION AND JAUNDICED OPPOSITION PETTY JEALOUSY

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    • Kwena ba Zambia tulifipuba. These guys are lying to us everyday and we are there just listening. Only after they leave will we know how much the country has lost

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  2. The fu who lies incessantly; how does the entire minister fail to understand what “emoluments” mean?

    These good for nothing chaps are playing the game of chicken and really don’t want to pay 🙁

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  3. Hahaha this chap said he would never pay that money back. Is he speaking in relation to the other ministers except him ? Maybe he is the special one like Mourinho?

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  4. “And Mr. Lubinda stressed that there was no breach of the law at the time the Ministers stayed in office saying the law might have been interpreted differently.”

    There was a breach of the law no doubt, otherwise why would you pay back? And the poor ministers could not disobey instructions could they? I think some deal to help each other pay up has been struck here. Anyway what matters to us is paying back, with interest and help reduce the unsustainable national debt. Or pay for abro inputs?

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  5. PF are only showing some sort of normalcy because 2021 is uncertain……..even Kaiser Zulu taking himself to police to force them to write a warn and caution against him ,!!!!!!

    Linbinda , make sure the jails are habitable , a lot of you will be accommodated there….

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  6. Suddenly this clown has had a “road to Damascus experience”. Just the other week, he was on record vowing not to pay. What has changed? These mambalas just must pay back our money!! Those in the US$41 Million fire engines must be brought to book as well. This brood of thieves must account for all the stealing they have been engaged in.

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  7. SAYS THIS CHIPANTE-PANTE G00MUG00MU WHO WAS IN THE FOREFRONT OF SAYING HE WON’T REPAY THE CASH?
    Meanwhile uko ati (K4!zer Wild) [email protected] bad, possibly high on [email protected]’z illicit substances, & has been burning huts, & destroying field’s belonging to the same P.F aligned villagers who put K4!zer Wild in Plot 1.
    Knowing these [email protected] victims, come 2021, it will be the same individuals shouting from their burnt rooftops “Sontapo, & Dununa pamaka!!

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  8. This is the same Dishonourable Minister together with Jean Kapata who said would not pay back. What has changed today? Mweba fufuntungu imwe.

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  9. I stand with the concourt on this one. The former ministers need to pay back what they owe Zambia. All of it.

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  10. Hon. Lubinda….just calculate the salary per month times the number of Months you fraudly stayed in Office. Plus the allowances you received…thats the total amount of money you have to pay back to us Zambians period. On this one , I will not support you PF…. just pay back the money sirs and madams.

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    • @Truth Hates, My thinking as well. A simple matter and Lubinda can’t use his brains sure. Why complicate simple things by deliberately blowing them out of proportion: Ballooning simple and straight issues. No wonder these guys have failed to run the affairs of our Country

      This money has to be paid back with television cameras from all TV stations in Zambia present. It has to be beamed live so that Zambians can see these guys paying back. A bank statement show the total amount and all the names of those that had paid should availed to the all media including the ZambianWatchDog for publication, as we are dealing with public funds paid by suffering but hard working Zambians

      Thank you Lubinda for listening

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  11. “Justice Minister Given Lubinda has said that the executive is determined to ensure that the judgment of the Constitutional Court on Ministers who remained in office is implemented once the Deputy Registrar of the constitutional Court concludes assessment to establish how much should be paid”

    Just get copies of the salary slips of these from the ministry of Finance and have the money deducted from each MP’s next Gratitude/Salary starting from this weekend. MP´s will and Ministers will be paid either this coming Friday or on Monday. Dont tell me their are no records. We do not need mathematicians nor accountants on this as it is very easy and straightforward to any human being with 5 commons senses. Finito

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  12. Please do this urgently. It ought to have been done at the first instance after the ruling.

    However, because of the political turmoil at the time it was the correct thing to have done but it cannot be done again. Ministers should start saving now to support themselves in the coming elections.

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  13. This guy a lawyer or what? What a useless set of people bringing circus hoops to a serious governance issue. I cannot stomach these dullards any longer mwe…

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  14. Just pay back you law disregarding bunch of fools with no direction…and whats astonishing is that none of them damn ministers was smart enough to advise thepresident to refer to the legality of continuing in office even after dissolution of parliament this shows the low quality of these office bearers.

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  15. am selling a rat. earlier he was refusing y agreeing now. something is wrong somewhere. this is a trick to blind fold zambians. first let us know the amount to be paid, second let us know the paying point, and last, show documents proof of payments to zambian pipo or else it will die like pipo wanted to know ecl friendship with findlay, y ecl flew alone to east africa, like why is ecl not firing kaizer the asonist, like y is pf not paying retirees, like y acc failed to find owners of 49 hses but they are busy collecting rentals, like y they are not telling the nation about lusaka-ndola duol death trap road, we dont want bill 10 etc etc the list is in long. let me ask. is there anyone out there to me that what we write here is beaing read by persons concerned or are beaing informed…

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  16. This is a donchi kubeba just tell the ministers will back. Who is is going to verify that on behalf of the Zambians, no one. We need proof of the payments have been made

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  17. I’m really concerned about the health of these guys. They seem perpetually tired, they have no idea what they’re doing

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  18. MONKEYS IN THE MAIZE FIELD ! I WONDER IF YOU CAN MANAGE TO LOOSEN THIS CAGE BECAUSE THE MONEY CAN NEVER BE REFUNDED UNTIL ANOTHER GOVERNMENT COMES IN . MONKEYS ARE IN FOR IT.

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