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UPND to deal with their two MPs who refused walk out of Parliament

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Secretary General Stephen Katuka
Secretary General Stephen Katuka

The opposition UPND says it does not approve of the conduct of its Members of Parliament, who refused to walk out of Parliament when the Constitution Amendment bill number 10 of 2019 was presented in Parliament.

UPND Secretary General Stephen Katuka says a collective decision will have to be made on how to handle Nalikwanda Member of Parliament Geoffrey Lungwangwa and his Solwezi Central counterpart Teddy Kasonso.

Mr. Katuka told ZNBC in a telephone interview that the Opposition Leader in Parliament JACK MWIIMBU gave a position which everyone needed to follow.

Yesterday, the Constitution Amendment Bill Number Ten of 2019 was restored on the order paper in Parliament.

This means that the Constitutional amendment Bill number ten of 2019 is eligible to come up for second reading in Parliament.

Acting Justice Minister, Stephen Kampyongo moved a motion for the restoration of the bill to the order paper.

However, most of the UPND MPs walked out of the house protesting the restoration of the Constitution Amendment bill number ten of 2019 to the order paper.

But two UPND Members of Parliament Mr. Kasonso of Solwezi and his Nalikwanda counterpart Geoffrey Lungwangwa opted to remain in the house after their counterparts walked out.

And the Southern Africa Centre for Constructive Resolution of Disputes (SACCORD) says there is no need to harass or punish the two UPND Members of Parliament who refused to walk out when the Constitutional Amendment Bill number ten of 2019 was presented to Parliament.

SACCORD Executive Director Boniface Chembe says the members of Parliament merely exercised their right to remain in the House and that no one should have a problem with that.

Mr. Chembe says with the explanation given, the two members of Parliament cannot be blamed for their action.

Mr. Chembe told ZNBC News in a Telephone interview that instead of antagonizing the two Members of Parliament, the UPND will do well to listen to their reasoning and respect their action.

He said it will not be in the interest of the UPND to antagonize the Nalikwanda and Solwezi Central law makers.

38 COMMENTS

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    • The two MPs should be immediately expelled. Bill 10 is evil and bad for Zambia. UPND cannot be associated with it

    • UPND is a TRIBO H-organisation posing as a party. It is a terrorist H-organization that wants to sell this country. PANAMA Paper must aloso be dealt with. HAGURIZA ZIKO.

    • Dr. Situmbeko Musokotwane is such a disappointment – the whole of an intellectual reduced to a Party cadre. Really sad. What is it that is in Bill 10 that you do not agree with if you have read the Bill? People are just following blindly without reading the Bill. I wonder whether HH himself has read the current Draft after the NDF sitting. Tell us what you disagree with in the current Draft.

    • I’m concerned about the words used ” to deal with the 2 MPs”. Why not to “have a meeting with the 2 MPs”. You always start by giving dialogue a chance. If that fails, u go up a notch. Are people really thinking about what’s wrong with African politics in general? Africans started politics as a form of protest against foreign rule. It’s little changed since those days. What about the politics of meeting and d talking things over?

    • Bill chakuti chakuti is a goner. It’s a closed case. It passed kale. Ba tribal party just go out there & make a few noises kaili you have now been given a campaign message since you yourselves have no message. We are waiting for a “ten point plan” again.

    • “For the hyena to be bold, he must have where he is pressing his butts.” @Sungwe you are right, the hyena not only presses his butt on fellow Three Mansions but the hyena uses butts to think too!

    • This was a ‘Protest Walkout’. It’s a loud statement that Bill 10 does not represent the will and interest of the people. Zambia is not and should not be a Banana Republic.

  2. Geoffrey Lungwangwa and Kasonso must be expelled. Period! If I were Lungwangwa, I would be mindful of the fact that there is not a single PF MP kwahae, he will obviously not be the first!

    • @3, Please write to the UN on your University Letterheads about the 2 MPs. “Only a TONGA can be a president of UPND and Sakwiba you are not Tonga.” UPND is a shame. It doesn’t want its MPS to use the brain to think but to use the blood lineage!

  3. The two MPs know that the interests of the party come second to that of the nation. Walking out of Parliament does not solve anything, why not stay and debate reasonably. People want to hear why you are opposing the bill and not seeing you walk out hence making them have puzzles as to why their MPs walk out all the time. The nation hears what goes on in parliament so if you put in reasonable points as to why the bill should be thrown people will make up their minds based on the debate.

    • Those Mps if suspended, must be brought into PF. They are brave. They don’t think NAMWALA first but Zambia first.

  4. Its a standard practice that every Political Party whips its MPs into line. Those who refuse Party Orders must be punished. This happened recently in the UK when some Conservative Party MPs disobeyed the Whip. At least 20 MPs were expelled from the Tory Party. On this basis the two UPND MPs must be expelled from UPND. No MP should be indispensable to the Party. Period.

    • This parte doesn’t give hope for any good things to come talk less of democracy. One can remain in the house and still vote against the bill.
      A party led by ‘SAINTS’ bulldozing everyone around, they too have their rights. Respect them.

  5. THE PROBLEM WITH THE WALK OUT IT’S AN OLD TRICK THAT’S WHY THE MOTION CARRIED ON WITHOUT THEM AS OPPOSITION FIND A WAY OF OPPOSING THESE BILLS UNLIKE THE WALK OUT THING WHICH EVERY OPPOSITION PARTY HAS DONE SINCE THE BEGINNING OF TIME. BILL TEN IS NOT GOOD FOR ZAMBIA BUT IF YOU GUYS BEING ABSENT MEANS IT CARRIES WHAT GOOD IS THAT. TRY A SIT IN FOR ONCE JUST SAYING

    • You don’t understand the strategy in a walk out, do you? Those are politics my friend, it’s better to walk out than have Judas amongst yourselves.
      Infact, the Judas werw exposed in that moment. Besides, it gives a full picture of how many numbers are for who.

    • @Mwine mushi you are 100% correct. All those traitors who walked out of parliament should be expelled from UPND. At no time did the great leader HH instruct them to walkout. They are a big disgrace to the party. Bravo to Lungwangwa and Kansonso. You are thee true patriotists of the party and the nation.

  6. No normal person can support an evil bill that denies retirees their dues! No normal patriotic Zambian is happy with what is happening at the Ministry of Injustice where retirees are crying day and night for their dues! To those who say the Bill has good and bad clauses but can still be passed, let me ask you a simple question. Can you eat Nshima mixed with utumafi utunono (Nshima mixed with just a little fecal matter)? In maths, positive multiplied by negative is always negative! The Bible says a little folly outweighs ALL righteousness (Ecclesiastes 10:1). Please UPND, expel any MP who thinks this is a partisan matter! We should not endorse PF chigololo on our Constitution! They promised Refinement but want to sneak in complete Amendments without following due process. It won’t work!

  7. UPND Secretary General Stephen Katuka says a collective decision will have to be made on how to handle Nalikwanda Member of Parliament Geoffrey Lungwangwa and his Solwezi Central counterpart Teddy Kasonso.

    You are a boon to Zambia and its people. You have shown that you were elected by the people, and not appointed by dysfunctional opposition parties. Debate Bill 10. If need be stop it. Never walk out, for the people elected you and not the wind.

  8. was the walkout a means to avoid debating the Bill 10? No! it was to show those against and the defectors from both Opposition and PF as well. it shown us that PF didnt shop wide for Defectors. This is why today they (PF) have adjourned the Bill 10 to 2020.
    Ubukopo ba PF! Anyway, the two Defectors are getting their balances of the 30 pieces of Silver as they have done their end of the bargain.

  9. Embarrassing for these two mps, now their love of money will be their demise. Didn’t these two mps see that there was so much opposition to this Bill. Artists, lawyers, activists and even people in the pf spoke out against the bill and you foolishly decide to support it now that it has failed those who bribed you won’t be there to defend or help you. You have been used next you will be discarded like a condom thank God independent mps and one NDF walked out too

  10. The MPs were just following the electorate who voted for them. This walkout does not solve anything . It’s better to remain and vote against the bill than just walking out.

  11. “Mr. Chembe told ZNBC news in a telephone interview that instead of antagonising the two MPs,the UPND will do well to listen their reasoning and respect their action.”

    SACCORD’s advice is spot and UPND must be magnanimous and not use patronage.

    Prof. Lungwangwa( ytogether with Teddy Kasonso) defended bill 10 saying the Parliamentary Select Committee, which they were part of,scrutinized several contentious clauses including removal of clauses:
    -to reinstate deputy ministers.
    -to interfere with operations of BOZ.
    -to form a coalition government.
    -to contract debts without parliamentary approval.
    -of people being removed from payroll before receiving their dues.
    Because of the above changes, Prof.Lungwangwa and Hon. Kasonso say the bill could now stand as law for the country…

    • could now stand as law for the country and because of that they would vote for it to be enacted into law.

      So the submissions to the Parliamentary Select Committee by the public was so critical for the committee members to scrutinize the constitution as can be noted that the submission by BOZ chief was taken into consideration among others.This is the part LAZ,Chapter ONE,UPND and others chose to shun and instead rushed to the Constitution Court.

  12. IS THIS A SURPRISE TO UPND? DR. LUNGWANGWA AND MR. KASONSO TOOK PART IN PUBLIC SITTINGS OF BILL 10, SO IT WAS EXPECTED THAT THEY WOULD CONTINUE SUPPORTING THE PROCESS! THESE TWO ARE MATURE CAREER PUBLIC WORKERS AND POLITICIANS, THEY CAN NOT BE COMPARED WITH THE NOVICE HAKAINDE HICHILEMA! IS IT WORTH-WHILE TO CONTINUE UNDER A NOVICE LEADERSHIP? HAKAIVOTELA HUMWINE!

  13. Imwe ba UPND,NO WONDER PEOPLE DOUBT IF YOU ARE A REAL ALTERNATIVE TO PF!!In the 1st place you needed a caucus meeting to agree on how to handle this issue in parliament so that those stayed in could give their reasons before even the walkout. Then,2ndly follow SACCORD’s advice and hear why these 2 stayed, MAY BE THEY WERE WAITING TO CHALLENGE THE MINISTER TO PRESENT AN AMENDED BILL NOT THE OLD DIRTY ONE!We start getting scared when Govt in waiting show excessive dictatorship!Try to reason and hear from the 2,they may just surprise you with good reasons for their actions THIS IS NO TIME FOR TURNING ALLIES INTI FOES,YOU NEED ALL HANDS ON THE DECK!!

  14. Every Political Party has a Whipping System in Parliament. Recently in the British Parliament the Conservative Party expelled 20 MPs after they refused the Tory Party Orders. The 2 MPs who disobeyed UPND Orders need to be punished. Such disobedience and indiscipline cannot be tolerated otherwise there will be Anarchy in the Party. However UPND must follow their Disciplinary Procedures. The 2 MPs should be given a long Rope to hang themselves. Prof Lungwangwa and Mr Kasonso have kissed goodye to their Political Careers in UPND. Come 2021 these 2 MPs should not be adopted. PF has bought these 2 MPs to create By-Elections in UPND strongholds. UPND should be careful and refuse to
    fall for the PF’s Trap.

  15. Despsration to rule at all costs is what is prevailing right now. Anything evil meant to frustrate good governance is a waste of time. Their friends are busy doing their best to bring development in very trying moments…while some bitter opponents are trying to abuse their freedom of speech to run smear campaigns. This is a shear waste if time and energy. We cant all be wasting time fighting worthless battles for one bitter man whose ambitions are misplaced. Ive always said having money doesnt mean you have to be a President. One can serve Zambia through other channels like Business. Look at Bill Gates.. Unfortunately in Africa anyone wants to rule in order to fulfill hidden agenda z. Opposition wake up and impress us through quality leadership and not this rhetoric that youve been…

  16. Honestly for what? why? mmmm stubborn upnd.Put your country first and tribe aside you chaps no wonder the late said buttocks will always be behind.

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