Thursday, April 18, 2024

The Dialogue between President Lungu and HH was proposed by Home Affairs Minister-Charles Kakoma

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The UPND says it has noted with dismay attempts by the Patriotic Front Media Team and Smart Eagles to twist facts relating to the proposed dialogue between President Edgar Lungu and its Leader Hakainde Hichilema.

Party spokesperson Charles Kakoma says the dialogue was proposed by Home Affairs Minister Stephen Kampyongo when he was giving a ministerial statement in Parliament on Wednesday 19th February 2020.

He said Mr Kampyongo called for dialogue between the PF and it’s government on one hand and the UPND on the other hand to resolve problems currently affecting the nation which the UPND and Mr Hichilema have agreed to.

Mr Kakoma emphasised that Mr Kampyongo asked the UPND to dialogue and does not see why the UPND should have rejected the dialogue.

He noted that for a long time, the UPND has been calling for dialogue through the Three Church Mother Bodies and if UPND did not respond positively to Mr Kampyongo’s call for dialogue, some people could have misconstrued that they are unwilling to seek some solutions through dialogue and that they may be hiding something.

Mr Kakoma said the UPND have nothing to hide as they are a civilised and responsible group of people who have always been open and available for genuine dialogue.

“In our understanding, a ministerial statement represents government position. Mr Kampyongo was the bearer of the message of dialogue from Mr Lungu. It is therefore surprising that the PF Media Director Sunday Chanda and the PF sponsored Smart Eagles can poor scorn on the proposal by the minister for dialogue and twist facts to insinuate that the UPND are begging for dialogue because of an imaginary offence”, he added.

Mr Kakoma noted with regret propaganda and facts are also being twisted to insinuate that the UPND is opting for dialogue instead of law enforcement.

He said in a statement that dialogue does not replace or take away the responsibility of the police and other law enforcement agencies from performing their duties to protect life and property from criminals such as those gassing people.

Mr Kakoma said Law and order as well as the rule of law should prevail and it is wrong for innocent people to be gunned down by the police or killed by instant justice mobs.

He said this injustice is causing people to lose confidence in the police and going forward both PF and UPND must focus on genuine dialogue to help resolve the current crisis.

“But it appears some people are against dialogue and are mockingly putting spanners in the proposed dialogue”, said Mr Kakoma.

47 COMMENTS

  1. Lusaka times can you proof read your articles. Kakoma is not and will never be home affairs ministers because upnd will never form government. Greetings from cold Russia. Enjoy the weekend all. Some of us are working unfortunately

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  2. Dialogue for what?? Why should the president break his work cycle to dialogue with hh?? Discuss what?? President is busy with GRZ and security wings running the country.

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  3. DAMN ***** CONCERNED ZAMBIAN , LET ME TELL YOU WE DO NOT NEED YOU. ON OUR OWN WE ARE OKAY , YOU NEED US MORE THAN WE NEED YOU SYCOPHANTS. STEAL FOR NOW , SOON YOU FACE THE STRONG ARM OF THE LAW

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  4. ENJOY THE COMMANDING OFFICERS WHOM YOU HAVE BEEN CONNIVING WITH TO WITHDRAW DOCKETS AGAINST YOU ,ARE STILL AVAILABLE . BUT FOR ENJOY WHILE IT LASTS , HAVE A NICE DAY

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  5. At Ministerial Level, that of Home Affairs, as a matter of fact, the PF Government is suggesting HH and UPND give them ideas on how to cope with the current situation in the Country. What does that say about the PF government and the Ministry in charge of Law and Order. Sounds like admission of failure. In other countries, The President or the Home Affairs Minister should have resigned.

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  6. Can’t understand why Sunday Chanda is not arrested yet over the on going genocide. Citizens are killing each other over nothing.

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  7. President Lungu should show leadership and fire Kampyongo and Police IG. These two are total failures but ultimately President Lungu is commander in chief . The attempts to link opposition to the gassing will not work because Zambians know that the opposition do not have the sophistication and geographical reach of the cases. Are police saying that they are so impotent that 2 months down the line no one has been taken to court?

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  8. Whoever needs to take Sh!t is the one to visit the toilet. Whoever has something to dialogue about should make an appointment with the other and not come to the media. Mr Kakoma, the story of dialogue did not start in 2020 unless LT have written things wrong again.

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    • Just goes to explain the issues we are going to come across with these illiterates. I pity that country and her people.

  9. @Zambian Citizen

    What work cycle are u talking about? It is becoming more and more apparent that Zambia has no president, or has an absent president if indeed we have one. Zambia is being run by someone other than ECL and right now the country is on autopilot.

    @KaizerZulu

    Social media has no gramma police. As long as we understand what the intended phrasing is, it should be no issue. I have seen similar mistakes being made by English journalists. The problem we have ad Africans is that our cultural heritage has been eroded by white people to a point where we laugh at people who speak brocken English, a foreign language. We don’t owe anyone good English.

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    • Instead of busy policing each other in foreign languages… We must start policing ourselves in our motherland tribes… Period. If you understand the notion of the line written down, is what matters.

  10. The UPND started by sponsoring Seer 1 to denounce PF leaders that they won 2016 coz of him..They started by accusing PF of being in power by shedding blood of innocent people.Now they are saying Seer one is getting what belong to him.There is no doubt this is UPND thing.How can a party believe so much in fake magic. HH told Seer 1 to get his staff.So this was well calculated move by UPND.People know that its HH .Watchdog is busy trying by all means to make HH a saint by saying PF wants to arrest HH.The details are showing that HH is behind this.The govt is just very careful in handling this.They don’t want to be accused of eliminating HH. Information on the ground is crystal clear pointing to UPND.UPND should stop this desperation n onsense. Innocent people are now dying.God can’t…

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  11. .God can’t allow such a leader to rule if he is behind the gassing.he should confess otherwise he is in trouble.

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  12. UPND don’t walk into these so-called talks. This is Lungu’s issue to deal with alone with institutions of governance. Wht instructions can UPND issue to these institutions? None.

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  13. This is what happens when people overstay in positions of leadership! They become very ineffective and irrelevant! Zambians in general have not done well where succession planning is concerned! Many institutions are underperforming because they are run by dead wood!

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  14. We told lungu in 2016 that you will not move forward a divided and fragmented nation. Lungu and his gang were too busy stealing and looting to be intrested in the unity of the nation….
    A selfless leader would have seen this division and dialogued with all parties to get the nation together..

    Lungu and his gang are greedy , egotistic compulsive thugs…

    Today , the first time in the history of this once peacfull nation , people are being burned alive in the streets by fellow Zambians.

    This is a very grim legacy of lungu and his gang…

    We have the highest tribal divisions our country has seen, the highest corruption and cader violence ever recorded….

    We again say, no amount of prayers , military or police force will fix the rot we are in , the only solution will be…

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  15. …….Will be end of pf cader violnce and free and fair elections demanded by the opposition.

    Zambia is headed for the abyss.

    Keep taking these warning as moans of a disgruntled opposition at the cost of the country. Things will only get worse. Lungu and pf have tried everything , nothing is working.

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  16. No time to waste the president as got other important issues than to spend time with some one who as failed to recognize ECL as president why meeting,come on Kakoma be serious.Why are you afraid just wait the truth over gassing will be known God is in control.

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  17. Why is this time? why cant upnd wait until the culprits over gassing are caught.Does it mean when they meet then the gassing will end,is that what upnd mean? This is just logic this what they mean because one will ask how are they going to end this.Kakoma be mature you are playing James Hardly chase.

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  18. Meeting HH will be there in 2021 and not this time ECL as got a lot important issues to solve let the president alone soothsayers be.We want to move and not to divert the attention of the president to some petty issue of organizing meetings will not bear fruit but which is retrogressive .Twakanafye bama mangwam.

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  19. Lungu can never meet the opposition, he knows their demand will be free and fair elections which will be his downfall….

    To the opposition, don’t talk about meeting lungu to heal the nation of the divisions , let them enjoy their soup which is of their own making.

    Just watch from your sitting rooms as lungu tries everything and fails. Even cancelling 2021 elections won’t save them.

    What is most amusing is how lungus plan of creating and watching mass hysteria has back fired on them. They hoped the public will blame upnd , but the truth is comming out that PF are the ones.

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  20. This is where you see Zambia is a country based and driven by Christian foundamentalist black magic values….

    We are saying, and have been telling lungu , that you will not develop a divided , fragmented nation. The only solution is to bring all opposition together and talk as Zambians , from this , the pf spritualists are asking why are the opposition demanding talks with lungu ? No One is demanding talks. Do you like where the country is headed ?

    The status quo actually suits the opposition, the opposition don’t need to talk to lungu, lungu and pf are dancing pelepete on hot embers right now.

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  21. For once if truly kapyo said anything to do with dialogue, lets applaud him, I think everything starts with ichufwano and chikondano, look at how we are struggling to sought out the anything in the country, even a simple lack of rain , we start point accusing fingers its the opposition, no its the ruling party, if political party leaders are at peace with each other same applies to their party members, we will spend more time and effort on fixing the economy and not politicking.

  22. ba kz wants LT to proof read , kikikiki, you see what happens when you got so much hate in your heart, you cant see and hear straight, all you see is holding on to power.

  23. Today you may spill over all form of rubbish against president Lungu but remember that “ Certain political group is directly link to this National Unrest “. mastermind is the number one enemy of the state if you don’t know.
    History has its road “.they will be very SMART unless the bullet is on their heads.

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  24. When PF dimwits come to understand that the problems facing Zambia are economic , and there is no solution when the country is divided as it is , that will be the day Zambia starts to move forward.

    The opposition do not need any talks with lungu, it is lungu that needs talks.

    We are watching lungu and pf dancing pelepete on hot embers trying to fix things….every evil they try against the opposition backfires.

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  25. Yet again UPND spending time and energy on trivial issues. When is Kakoma to address issue based matters and good policies.

    You guys spend so much time reacting to emotions and living in yesterdays.

    This is what Trevor Simumba was talking about yesterday.

    So what with – on who initiated the idea about having dialogue.

  26. Dialogue is important and please don’t listen to those that are discouraging it. Both leaders have nothing to loose. Misunderstandings can be cleared through dialogue. Hopefully it can be soon.

  27. Dialogue is important and please don’t listen to those that are discouraging it. Both leaders have nothing to loose. Misunderstandings can be cleared through dialogue. Hopefully it can be soon.

  28. KZ language is not an issue .that is colonial mentality.After all we understood what he meant.Even yourself am sure you have a challenge in russian language but your bosses appreciate whatever you are doing out there despite the fact that you are blank in russian language.Bwana avoid hate language.Enjoy Moskiva.

  29. I don’t think you guys know what you are playing with. You can call each other names and laugh about it now but when you end up inciting hate here as I read through your posts here and a real civil war starts in your country you will regret what you are doing now. Your religious and political leaders are trying to divide you between religious lines and you are helping them do that rather than standing up and say we are all Zambians never mind our tribe, region or religion. That’s the only stand that will save your blessed nation. The foreign powers pushing the government to take certain decisions will abandon you when you start killing one another and reject you from running to their countries so be careful. Our 11 year war in Sierra Leone was not even based on religious or tribal…

  30. HE IS UNDER A HEAVY “hallucination of grandeur” FROM DELIVERANCE CAN ONLY BE DONE BY A SEER. WHAT IS HE DOING IN RUSSIA? AND WHY BROADCAST THIS FACT OF HIS LOCATION?

  31. HE IS UNDER A HEAVY “hallucination of grandeur” FROM WHICH DELIVERANCE CAN ONLY BE DONE BY A SEER. WHAT IS HE DOING IN RUSSIA? AND WHY BROADCAST THIS FACT OF HIS LOCATION? (note correction).

  32. Go and dialogue with Mukuni, Ndulo, Munshya, and all those empty heads. They are the ones who think you are president. That time is gone, as Zambians in Chilubi and Western said loudly last week, 2021 is coming and you are missing the double decker again, oval headed twit!!!

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  33. Sunday Chanda? What’s that? Oh you mean that dunderhead PF cadre? I thought you meant icilubi or something made from wood.

  34. Kikikikikikikiki
    This bunch failures are sick.
    Government need no dialogue with terrorists.
    What a screwed narrative from sick kakoma.

  35. whoever is behind this gassing has it so well planned. It started with SEER1 and his rant – a fake prophet who was deported from the country 3 years ago . How come active after 3 years?? SEER 1 set the stage because the many ‘born again” know him and Zambia has a citizenry that is definitely Christian. Then the gassing started in Chingola – of all C/B towns. Now targeting schools in Lusaka. A well orchestrated act of terrorism and the Govt. is not treating it with kid gloves. From where I stand, i see majority Zambians working together in communities to tackle this gassing and we shall overcome with God’s help. After this we should re-look our politics. I recall politics of Gerry Adams and Sinn Fein – whenever 1 leader of a party overstays, you get intransigence in negotiations and…

  36. But Nevers Mumba prayed. Wht has happened since those prayers. Clergy and politicians are interfering in each other’s domains.

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