Some Africans on social media have expressed their dissatisfaction on a viral video suggesting that Africa should be the first place where coronavirus treatments be tested.
Jean-Paul Mira, head of intensive care at Cochin hospital in Paris, and Camille Locht, head of research at the Inserm health research group, both said on French TV that there was a case for testing out the vaccines in African countries.
“If I can be provocative, shouldn’t we be doing this study in Africa, where there are no masks, no treatments, no resuscitation?” Dr Mira said on TV channel LCI.
“A bit like as it is done elsewhere for some studies on Aids. In prostitutes, we try things because we know that they are highly exposed and that they do not protect themselves.”
“You are right,” Dr Locht responded.
“We are in the process of thinking about a study in parallel in Africa.”
The comments received an angry response on social media, including from former footballers Didier Drogba and Samuel Eto’o.
“I would like to vividly denounce those demeaning, false and most of all deeply racist words,” Drogba tweeted.
“Do not take African people as human guinea pigs! It’s absolutely disgusting,” he added.
Another twitter user said “It’s 2020 in France & we still see people from Africa as subjects for experimentation.This is what normalized racism looks like.AFAIK,nobody jumped in to counter the arguments, both doctors agreed. Same, the way sex-workers are considered: like objects that can be used for tests.”
“If only Africa would choose better leaders, we would not even need to worry about this happening,” another responded.
SAD
We allowed ourselves to be in this situation. Every jim and jack will sh1t on our heads if we do not change. Amini tried.
I suppose, the French doctors feel emboldened to suggest Africa as testing ground, because they know, some African leaders will agree to this without even consulting their citizens.
They are talking about different things. Vaccine is not treatment. The suggestion is for testing treatment medication and the other agrees that a separate group that has no other protection is indeed useful. This is how science works. You need an experimental research to arrive at what works best. The US has already experimented using three different groups of treatment (treatment meaning what you do with each group). The US study already shows that the available medicine for malarian other diseases in different combinations work. What is at stake is the long term effect on the patients as some side effects are just as deadly as the virus induced disease. For medical clearance, time is required for side effects to show, not weeks or months.
I am sure they are already doing it …we have silly Health ministers who will happily even conduct mandatory door to door blood testing and donation just because Bill Gates says so. Many thanks to Didier Drogba and Samuel Eto’o for standing up…meanwhile some are fighting for FAZ jobs.
It’s a ploy! Coronaviruses has been there for a long time! People are dying from radiation posioning from the 5 G network , the frequency that’s coming off the radiowave towers are locking oxygen molecules up in the bodies that’s why people are having probelms breathing, passing out or suffocating .If you take that vaccination your brains will stop functioning normally , you’ll become dumb as hell and will be used as slaves by the new masters
Zennia – They have already started ..I read something about trials in Senegal.
This is where Nani Chale will come and give us a speech imperialist and a Pan African speech yet his German madam is ….
*about
The last sentence says it all. African leaders should inspire more confidence to assure their people that they’re protected from wicked aspirations. Late president Mwanawasa’s firm stance against GMO maize in Zambia was an example I would proudly narrate to Europeans.
T@rino, this is not a laughing matter. To me, they don’t even deserve to be called “doctors”. Now read analysis above from Nam, and tell me what you think.
Zambians and fellow africans wake , here in Zambia
your health where just doing the HIV testing activity
for the purposes of making afew allowances and who knows
what that testing and equipment that they have supplied
has and doing to you all in few years to come .
it is time to make our own medicines, what education if you cannot create
your own things , wakeup zambia and africa.
This is total nonsense but you will see some silly Presidents and dull Ministers like dunderhead obese Chitalu Sampa jumping on the idea like he did on the failed cholera vaccine…..when they offer them money they can even sell their own citizen just like during slavery….the whole Africa should condemn this nonsense
If they came and secretly gave your minister 50 000k to test it on people in mumbwa. Do you really think he would care?
Like I have stated before, coons ( black people that worship white people ) are more dangerous to God’s golden Africans than white people themselves. I really hate France with a passion. They day we free our brothers and sisters of the francophone nations, is the beginning of real freedom in Africa. I am short of words right this moment.
And here we have those in diaspora who have been for weeks criticising our approach and saying we should respond to this virus like the western world is doing. When I said that those countries you have adopted as new homes don’t see you as humans you accused me of harbouring jealousy and hating diasporans. I hope this proves to you that I knew what I was talking about. Please come back home before they cage you up in science labs in glass boxes as experiments for vaccines. Kz
These are racists they think we are wild animals but because of love of money, some skewed African leaders may agree either knowingly or unknowingly as donations to health institutions. Let’s be vigilant over such issues.
And yet again the diasporans here are continuing to criticise African governments and our health officials instead of channeling that anger towards the European you call your adopted parents. They are the ones saying that they don’t see you as equals and as lab rats so why not tell them off? Are you scared they will kick you out if you open your mouths? Just look at that coon tarino. He has lost his self identity.
Don’t say that some African leaders will agree. You should be standing up to your masters there rather than making assumptions about us. You are no better than your masters by prejudicing us as gullible easily controlled Africans. Diasporans are brain washed to hate themselves and don’t even realise it. How sad
@KZabsolutely agree with you on this oone, was telling madam that you are a a thug but sometimes you talk sense. We own a home in Surrey and we see it all the time
@ Kaizar Zulu i agree with you on this one at least you’ve written sense today….some diaspora Zambians have so much self hate….they hate Zambia with a passion…i know quite a few and they always criticize me for worrying about what’s happening in Zambia….Especially in France Africans are seen as sub human….
Wait a minute. The doctors are not referring to Africans in the diaspora. They are coming to Africa as in African countries on the African continent. They will not bribe diasporas. They will bribe African leaders and collaborate with scientists on the African continent. I believe we should begin there. The diasporans must be sensitized to lobby against this wherever they are that these are originating.
a day after that, corona hammered france badly. the figure maybe above 1000 today, hopefully including those two doctors.
Chi Surrey is nice I have been there and it is an affluent place. So it does not surprise me that you experience such there. Mostly the rich and wealthy do not want you as an African to break into their circles. They see it as a threat to the status quo. I wish you could educate your fellow diasporan tarino to love himself more and stop harbouring hate towards we in Africa. For me I am glad to be free in my own country and humbled to be serving my government. Kci hope to engage with you in future. We need you guys to come and contribute home. You now have assets there so just put them on rent and then you laughing to the bank while settled in Zambia. Myself I have 3 homes in London. My wlfe has contributed the most to these properties. It was idea but I never wanted to own property…
Agony you’ve made me laugh so much my wife is now saying I should be banned from lusaka times.becayse I am making too much noise. Wansekesha
@KZ mate we have been here since 1994, my good friend from Mauritius who happens to own a big house in epsom told me that a couple of years ago if neighbours saw a black man in the street would call the police,could not believe it and we work there
Fellow Zambians, again we are at each other’s throats instead of focusing on the issue at hand. This matter calls for diplomatic response. We need to call upon the French embassy to pronounce itself whether this is indeed the position of France or not. If not, then we must demand that the French authorities condemn the two doctors and maybe even suspend their licences since what they are proposing is unethical. Can our Hon Min of Foreign Affairs to write to the French ambassador to express dismay on behalf of the silent majority? Maybe even take the matter to the AU for further action. In this way, we can have a consolidated and coordinated response. What do you think?
A Zulu, are you not the one who was forgetting your vehicle at the airport rushing out? only to remember it when you come back! Easy some Africans are comfortable and respected. Ask Prof. Chirwa. Only Cadres who steal public funds and ran away into hiding abroad are the ones who face racism.
This is why Africa will never, ever reach Western or even Asian standard of development.These doctors have just made a simple suggestion and instead of focusing on the spread of the disease and steps to curtail it this nonsense response will create a suspicious view on all prevantative measures against covid 19.
I for one would gladly take the vaccine. I’m old, i’ve lived my life and made my contribution to society. Taking part in vaccine trials is a normal thing which occurs in even developed nations, the only reason they are mentioning Africa is because the disease hasnt yet taken its toll here and once it does the deaths will be the highest and we will have no other choice but to beg for this same vaccine you are refusing because we do not have the capacity as your politicians…
Ctn…as your politicians have been buying luxury SUVs instead of ventilators and setting up adequate infrastructure.
Never say never because non of you geniuses can see the future… if this corona virus hits Africa hard where most countries have less than 50 ventilators for a whole nation, no properly working mortuaries, not enough ambulances, not enough medical personnel, not enough bed spaces etc what are you going to do and the disease begins to spread fast?????
FYI the Ebola virus was brought under control thank to an experimental vaccine.
@Kaizer, how someone closer to government can have such an inferior perception of citizens living abroad is beggars belief. It is the people out in the diasporah who tell you people how the locals here really think of you. It is your short-sightedness which has driven Zambia to the brink. How can you explain owning 3 homes in the UK when people like Gray Zulu who served in government longer than you and preserved the wealth you are squandering today can have no such assets? This French chap is acutally on record saying how they conducted similar tests for HIV, BCG and Polio. You are the same chaps who have been idol and allowed covid-19 to manifest just to qualify for donor funding. The good thing with this virus is that it does not discriminate and it will be interesting for those used…
@Kaizer, You let Monsanto in to grow GMO’s in Zambia so it will be interesting to see how you will resist the pressure for vaccine testing in Zambia.
KZ, you being economical with truth. You have began to give yourself up to cleanse yourself from atrocious acts you have inflicted on innocent Zambians. You claim you own 3 houses, yes we know Zambians who stole money in Zambia and laundered it into houses here. Records at ministry of Finance exist where clerks purported to be on studies in UK and one accountant – Nondo, facilitated transfers of cash to these clerks, with half of it in his account in UK. We know them and will in turn reveal others at the right time. When people like KZ leave the scene next year we are all coming back to Zambia, starting this year.
Iwe chi vision, the test should be done just there in france
2020 vision it turns out he is a house negro….he will do anything for bazungu….you should be ashamed of yourself for siding with these racists so called doctors
Got this from Twitter:
‘So insensitive! How dare anyone think or speak like that? There are “raw” patients or candidates for such a trial on every continent. Singling out Africa is insanely provocative and demeaning.’
If bothered to read, my post said my wife is the one who has majority equity in these properties. As her husband, I have joint ownership. That does not mean I solely funded the houses. The problem with zambian is that you conclude things without getting facts. Do you know my wife’s background and the assets she has?
@KZ, there are ethical procedures in the west about consenting to being on trials. Stop giving the impression that certain people here can merely be rounded up and experimented on. It’s about ascertaining the ethics of carrying out certain trials in Africa. Some trials have gone ahead at the approval of people in ‘responsible positions’ in Africa even where diasporas’ have objected to some. Some trials DO need to cut across all demographics to assess their efficacy. At the base, it is about following all the necessary protocols, procedures, consent, ethics, etc; You are not monkeys to be caged without a choice and injected with all sorts. YOU should stand up to it in Africa if you think some trials aren’t ethical – don’t blame the diaspora. Mind you, there are a lot of Africans in…
…. in the diaspora who are in the medical fields with expertise and high qualifications – and are part of the push to find solutions. This is a global world and people have a choice to sell their labour anywhere they like – and don’t keep bringing up that silly ‘come back home’ mentality.
This Kaizar Zulu sycophant Kawalala Lisholi is unashamedly bragging about siphoning money from Zambia’s treasury into his properties in the UK and no one within the law enforcement agencies will question him to account. And he probably stole and siphoned more than 3 properties. With how expensive houses in the UK are, there’s no way he could afford such 3 properties on his salary and income alone. What a rotten, failed bunch of politicians we have in Zambia.
When COVID-19 virus hits hard, our people will die like flies due to broken health care systems caused by this Kaizar thief. By the way wasn’t this cretin fired by his Kawalala Lisholi boss? So why is he still parroting Lungu’s propaganda?
Remove balls from the two quacks. They don’t deserve them. Also they should look over their shoulder every time they leave home.
You people are fools, full of hatred. Are we animals to receive anything you eat from your filthy mouths. Please respect us as human beings. In fact I curse everyone of you suggesting to bring your vaccines in Africa together with your families. Y not test yourselves. Is Africa the one who brought this virus. If you think Africa will fall, I am very sorry because the GOD we worship will save us from the virus and not you French or whatever doctors you are called. I hate you. Africa we rise above every challenge.
If only Africa learn how to elect better leaders who are not going to bow to the demands of the west and less corrupt leaders.
Didier Drogba and Samuel Eto’o are utter emotional, running their mucky tongues based on the podium of non-natural science variables. National vaccination programs are lawful and regulated. How surreal, when Eto’o and drogba took polio vaccination and want to deny development and testing of new vaccines against deadly viruses. It is brainless of Eto’o and drogba to suggest vaccines are developed without running trials on human subjects. And how you inject race in vaccines speaks volume about your IQs. Generally, black africans including Eto’o and drogba have have IQs of mentally retarded people exhibited in their countries’ failure to govern themselves but riddled with civil strife and corruption.
abena ,.. hey! which sense can you talk here yet you don’t know the aim behind that vaccine.. and why not in their own country
A reminder to the doubting non sensical Thomases out there!
Was the Ebola virus not brought under control thanks to an experimental vaccine?
Should this coronavirus start to spread fast here in Africa (heaven forbid) that’s when you will cry for the vaccine because we dont have capacity to control it, donors are busy with their own countries.
“The majority will always be the voice of stupidy” Plato
I gather a cabinet of monkeys close to home has already approved the vaccine trial on black Africans. Shameful betrayal!
Samuel M: undefined decibels is all you can express! It does not surprise me you are in the same category of Eto’o and drogba. African countries including Zambia are active participants in the global vaccine action plan of WHO. You have national health policy and regulations so find time to digest and assimilate such documents.
Squeeze their balls until their tears finish
@Nzelu most coons never profess to their inferiority complexes. They silently admire everything a white man does. You can’t idolise or admire everything about someone unless you have completely no belief in yourself. Just look around you why do black people have white people’s names? Why do they feel proud only when they are wearing neckties and jackets? Why do they sweat for white weddings? Why do they boast to fellow natives that they have been to London? Why do they think everything to admire is in Europe? Coons
Imwe ba LT. How come I can’t down vote abena ngumbo? Is he your plant?
@Nzelu…haha
@Nzelu most coons never profess to their inferiority complexes. They silently admire everything a white man does. You can’t idolise or admire everything about someone unless you have completely no belief in yourself.
Just look around you why do black people have white people’s names? Why do they feel proud only when they are wearing neckties and jackets? Why do they sweat blood to have white weddings? Why do they boast to fellow natives that they have been to London? Why do they think everything to admire is in Europe? When they get a little education they run to live in Europe. These indeed are Coons, uncle Toms, coconuts, house niggers
Ba LT you keep removing my post. Is it because you can see yourselves in my explanation?
As long as we continue worship a white man they will continue treating us as animals
@Nzelu most coons never profess to their inferiority complexes. They silently admire everything a white man does. You can’t idolise or admire everything about someone unless you have completely no belief in yourself.
Just look around you why do black people have white people’s names? Why do they feel proud only when they are wearing neckties and jackets? Why do they sweat blood to have white weddings? Why do they boast to fellow natives that they have been to London? Why do they think everything to admire is in Europe? When they get a little education they run to live in Europe. These indeed are Coons, uncle Toms, coconuts, house niggers
Kwena wasopolola Niyekuti bwa?