The Universal Prophylactic PVT Ltd from India, the suppliers, and manufacturers of the condoms at the centre of Honey Bee controversy has said that the test results from a World Health Organisation (WHO) Certified laboratories based in India show the disputed condoms supplied to Zambia met WHO standards, which is contrary to the test done by a laboratory done in Zambia by Zambia Bureau of Standards (ZABS).
In a letter to Honey Bee, the Indian firm Indian firmed said that the test in Zambia was done by a laboratory that is not certified by WHO and challenged the Zambia Bureau of Standards (ZABS) for an external test.
“We are ready to send the control samples of the same batches for external testing purposes as per your suggested testing laboratory,” read part of their letter.
In a letter dated Thursday, 14th January 2021 and sent to Honey Bee, the Indian firm has also disputed the allegations put by the Zambia Medicine Regulatory Authority on the Latex Examination Gloves.
The company which exports to more than 40 countries and has been doing business with Zambia for 20 years said the test done by ZABS remains highly questionable as to whether the WHO protocols were followed.
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This case has a lot of issues …and these have to be dealt with one by one to come to a conclusion that will satisfy all
I see this saga ending in a settlement out of court! Shady deals should not be concluded for public expenditure and political meddling. As is the practice in Zambia this issue will soon end up being dealt with behind curtains with Zambians left in complete darkness to the eventual conclusion! This joins the gassing, 48+ houses owned by a ghost, the shooting of Kaunda and Nsama, the burning of markets and many more issues that have begged information to be shared but is instead under wraps of government!
Useless, are we Indian, if they need them let them get. Us we don’t need them. We are not dunderhead. We have our own institutions to regulate what is fit for us. Just accept that you were caught pant down!
Kiki Mint indeed you are not dunderhead. That in itself should open up your mind to see this issue objectively and how your beloved institutions get compromised. You don’t need to be indian to understand what is right and what is wrong. There is absolutely no need for hate speech. Yes your institutions were caught pants down!!
Princehus Patel Honey bees and it’s surrogate caught pants down! How do you supply rotten paracetamol to the community?
Corrupt gathering to attack our local institutions,they must banned from doing business in Zambia
Have you ever heard a thief caught ready handed and accepts right there, definately no ,even them same they wouldn’t, so what ever they tell us is nothing
We leave it in the hands of the lord. Today’s church service my pastor said forgiveness is vital for society to coexist. We should be willing to forgive. I have forgiven honeybee. However, depending on the outcome of the investigation, they will need to face the consequences whatever they may be. I pray for all of you my Lusaka times family. Amen
Two days ago I found out that a friend of mine who is based in diaspora swindled me out of $30,000. I have forgiven him as I am born again. I understand why he did it and I hope he learns from this.
We will wait until this case is brought to it’s conclusion..
It’s now becoming increasingly interesting ok let’s wait and see
We choose to believe the results of ZABS as it is the mandated regulatory authority in Zambia. Why was MoH buying through third parties when we can buy straight from source ? Greediness has given rise to all these alleged political score settling, just face the consequences of your greediness.
Indians ganging up against zabs to continue supplying malabishi ????
The Indian company is marking its own exam sheet. It should be standard setters in India who should say so. Doubting that, a regional standard setter in Asia would come in. Even then, Zambian standard setters would still carry out their own analysis.
Who cares about the Indian Lab? We have our local Labs to safeguard our interest.
Those who order stuff from India will be familiar with this: You go to a guy making a part you want. He shows you a genuine part and tells you to take a walk while he makes the batch you want. When you land in Zambia you realize most of what you have are duds. We know this, guys. We know this. Stop the rot!
No one has accused this ***** firm of supplying defective condoms or even anything else. GRZ never gave them any contract and ZABS hasn’t dealt with them ever. Ka lawyer should just go ku court and sue on behalf of Honeybee. What is the negro waiting for?
Who cares about the Indian lab? We have our own local labs and they must be supported
The same WHO that Trump stopped funding? Give me a break!!
This case twakula umfwakofye until fikalondoloke
KZ, you are the devil himself, church can never save you
It’s possible that the one’s they sent to WHO could have been of acceptable standards but the ones sent here in Zambia were of substandard and no certification from Who.
The problem might be that these condoms were manufactured for the Indian Market. The requirement for Zambia is totally different.
Zambian men and Indian men are different.
That is why the Chinese make the necessary adjustments to the condoms they export to africa.
Size does matter.
Down voting my comments for no reason is another sign of hate and sin. Repent my brothers
PF is in self destructive mode, the firing of Chilufya is an indictment on the entire PF and a confession by Lungu that something is very wrong. This alone will be a campaign tool to unseat the PF. Appears even their damage controllers are no longer interested in this matter.
PF is in self destructive mode, the firing of Chilufya is an indictment on the entire PF and a confession by Lungu that something is very wrong. This alone will be a campaign tool to unseat the PF. Appears even their damage controllers are no longer interested in this matter!
Lungu doesn’t just realize, his been messed by the business entities who were fighting for same contract at MoH. Now this isn’t about medicine but politics. Doubt fired Minister was wrong. If he was, then the whole govt is rotten
Lungu doesn’t just realize, his been messed by the business entities who were fighting for same contract at MoH. Now this isn’t about medicine but politics. Doubt fired Minister was wrong. If he was, then the whole govt is rotten.
What about the stinky liquid aspirin ?
In India they che.. a lot
Now Indian firm as usual trying to question ZABS….meanwhile our govt of thieves will just sit by and let our institutions be embarrassed by a bunch of Indian crooks being pushed by Chilufya. Why doesn’t this Indian company also show us how much they charged their cousins at Honeybee…in the end ZABS will be forced to apologise and Chilufya will come out innocent. This is why we need independent institutions in Zambia who can deal with dangerous viruses like Chilufya and his PS.
When I tell people PF is a kakistocracy govt ..you think its a joke …do you ever see some Indian company questioning FDA …the Director of ZABS already said that they used international standard testing techniques to test that batch in that PAC hearing at National Assembly …what of the other batch that was sent to Zimbabwe what were the results? To add insult to this case you have the mo ron Tutwa Ngulube who is the lawyer depending these crooks and who is also PF Deputy Chief Whip.
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To hell the Indian company,you should be apologize for killing zambia citizens~ please ECL complain to your counter part in india over what has been done to our country,it seems the Indian government together the PF wants to wipe out a certain age group that uses condoms and family planning tablets.
@Tarino. Your conspiracy theory seems holding. Nevertheless, the otherwise could hold, those who fought Dr Chilufya did it without consideration of norms for systems requirements for international trade. Quantitatively, the supplier whips ZABS to the line of WHO acceptable ISO protocols. What’s worrying is to hear zabs lab not accredited which makes difficult to justify the analytical results. I hope zabs kept the sample from the tested lot. I can assure you using an independent internationally accredited testing infrastructure will find zabs pants down!
Tarino evil comments are moderate to protect our Christian values. Change your ways and find God
@Tarino. Your theory seems to hold. Nevertheless, the otherwise could hold, those who fought Chilufya did it without consideration of norms for systems requirements for international trade. Quantitatively, the supplier whips ZABS to the line of WHO acceptable ISO protocols. What’s worrying is to hear ZABS lab not accredited which makes difficult to justify the analytical results. I hope ZABS kept the sample from the tested lot. I can assure you using an independent internationally accredited testing infrastructure will find ZABS wanting.
Okay, I must say that the lazy fat guy leeching off the UK government pretending to be Kaizar Zulu is making me laugh with his new comments, go with God he says.
Lol.
The must have used a small amount of pressure in India. In Zambia they used a lot of pressure. One knows their people.
A third party company was contracted to manufacture comdoms on behalf for the main contractor.This is common practice in most countries especially india,china….etc
Our Zambian labs confirmed that they were defective
then what are we going to listen
Exactly the point.I know Indians where quality is concerned,they compromise a lot.
Chiza Chirwa – This UK based impostor has too much time on his hands for shameless childish games playing a variety of aliases on LT.
Tarino and chiza you boys are possessed and don’t even know it. I have been praying for you all. I understand that there in diaspora there is a huge anti Christian movement. You guys are just innocent victims of an ecol system. I am praying for you sinners. The devil is using you
Kaizar and prayer living together?? I will never go to church
We are not in india
Dont listen to them.They are very good at manipulating issues to suit their own desires.
They can even go an extra mile to systemically involve others to ensure that they cover their tracts of wrong doing.
Just stand your ground ZABS.
We know them.
They have asked for an independent assessment of the condoms and gloves.
ZABS should take on the challenge. If they trust their own analysis.
Let’s wait for WHO certified tests. Chitalu chilufya might be in the right…
A third independent test threatens all of us, we shall have nothing to talk about against LUNGU. HH will become irrelevant in this talk unless we come out to dispute the results. It threatens the new Health Minister remaining in office where millions of dollars are entered into contracts daily; threatens Nakacinda remaining Minister
Take the samples both the control and the ones in Zambia to a third party WHO certified laboratory. Am sure we keep samples as well. Have representatives of ZABS, honeybee and manufacturers. That will end this debate. What’s so hard about that?
Wa boza ni ndani?
Stuff in India could be classified A to E, with grade E (the most inferior) shipped to Zambia.
Big fish involved.so this case will
Close slowly.
The Indian company is working on the premise that Zambians are dull. In a sample, especially a representative or haphazard sample, finding exceptions like they did simply means that if you extrapolate this to the total population, those 4 or 6 items could mean 4,000 are defective, now, here we are talking human lives, this cannot be overlooked and any defects are too material to be ignored.
Procurements by PF govt are rotten. Why should a government worth its salt deal with Kamwala kantemba to supply the nation? Governments deal with the source, not tiny middlemen. This is what corruption does.
Hi, The issue here is not Indian and Zambian but focuses on whether the condoms and gloves met the required standard. If not then the chain of corruption must be dealt with.
PF truly are the Chimbwi no Plan. You bet these condoms could also have been used, they are salaula so whatever is leaking from them may actually but be a lubricant but spermatozoa.
It’s simple
Start making or manufacturing your own before you start complaining and subjecting other people’s products to scrutiny.
You can’t even make your own CDs.
Dullo dullo bati!
Uyu wena mungulu.
ZABs ena kuwayawayafye.
Zambians and Africans should never deal with India. We already have the Chinese and their shoddy products. At the least the Chinese are upfront with their bad products and materials. Deal with the Japanese and other Africans. Europe should be a second tier partner with the US. India and Indians have never had anything good for Africans. This is a wake up call for the whole of Africa.