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Chishimba Kambwili explains the Leaked Audio Recording

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Former Minister of Information and now Patriotic Front Member has said that he does not engage in criminality or shady deals.

Reacting an audio recording of a phone conversation with the Bank of Zambia Governor, Mr Kambwili said that is a leader and has been a decent businessman for many decades, his inquiry was innocent and remains innocent.

Reports have been circulating that Mr Kambwili was trying to force the bank of Zambia to issue a bond against government debt owed to suppliers. In the audio, the alleged governor is heard chiding Mr kambwili for breaching channels of communication.

Below is the Audio and Mr Kambwili’s reaction to it

Wednesday, 1st September, 2021

I have noted with sadness an illegal recording being circulated of the conversation I held with the Bank of Zambia Governor, Mr. Christopher Mvunga.

Let me give a brief background to this innocent conversation that has been misconstrued.

It is public knowledge that the Zambian Government owes local contractors, and suppliers of goods and services over $5billion for infrastructural works done, goods supplied and services rendered.

So when the Bank of Zambia recently advertised for the open market to buy Government bonds and Treasury Bills, various contractors and suppliers owed money by Government approached many of us deemed of influence and have served in Government to understand how the money owed to them by Government could be turned into Government Bonds or Treasury bills.

It is public knowledge that I have served in Government as a Minister of Foreign Affairs, Minister of Labour, Minister of Information and Broadcasting Services. I have also been a member of parliament for many years. Such questions and inquiries for me are therefore are normal.

It is in this light that I approached the Ministry of Finance to understand the process, if at all it was provided for in the law, to turn Government debt owed to suppliers and contractors into Government Bonds.

I needed to know how suppliers’ or contractors’ debt could be converted into Government Bonds or Treasury Bills.
So I am rather surprised that such an innocent inquiry has been portrayed to impugn alleged criminality.

In fact I expressed surprise when the Bank of Zambia Governor, Mr. Christopher Mvunga called me expressing anxiety about my inquiry. But for those that know Mr. Mvunga, I knew I would have to wait to have a decent conversation later when he was more in an appropriate mood.

I still don’t understand why he expressed annoyance about my inquiry whether I had breached procedure or protocol or how the conversation was recorded.

I wish to emphasise that I do not engage in criminality or shady deals. I am a leader and a decent businessman for many decades. My inquiry was innocent and remains innocent.

I still want answers if such a financial scheme is possible for local contractors who are owed a lot of money by Government.

My appeal therefore is to President Hakainde Hichilema to dismantle this huge debt owed to local suppliers, contractors and those that provide a service to Government.

This debt has chocked the local economy and has rendered many businesses to go into difficulties, bankruptcy and disruption.

Thank you.

Dr. Chishimba Kambwili

60 COMMENTS

  1. Nothing to explain iwe Chimbwili. A convict will never repent for as long as he thinks he can get away with it. Any other country this criminal would be serving time behind bars. He is a fraud and should be arrested ASP.

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  2. Who are you , or under who’s authority were calling bank stuff to issue bonds ?

    You are a crooked coward who belongs in jail as # 1 says…

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  3. So you wanted your private debts which were illegal contractors to persons with no knowledge or indeed without proper tender then you convert the ‘5bn’ into bonds which you want the same persons you milked from to buy and pay you twice? You had ‘dr’ assigned to your name and you cannot see what that meant? As for not engaging in certain transactions was it not you who was pardoned a few days ago? A pardon that can still be challenged by the way as you walked the streets on appeal…it leaked what can we do? We listened in ‘the emperor has no clothes;!

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  4. Chimbwili…..you are done. Now even BOZ staff know you don’t carry any stick. They can say whatever they want and scare you. They know you are done.

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  5. So just because you supplied government with exorbitant prices and since the person you were relying on to pay you quickly is no longer there so now you want to be paid with bonds. Wait your turn there are more pressing payments. Just concentrate on your cases for the time being.

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  6. When proof of criminality is thevoice of those committing the crime, nothing beats that!

    I’m beginning to wonder if Mvunga wrote all his academic dissertation papers too ? ? ?

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  7. @ Benson Moono
    Mvunga has never written any academic dissertation. ACCA qualification is not an academic qualification its a professional qualification. Lets be serious. Show me one university which offers ACCA as an academic qualification.

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  8. In effort to bootlick.
    Bank Governor has bleached the vows he did at State House.
    It goes “…. I shall not disclose any confidential information “.

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  9. Kambwili has just given us an Insight what was going on in PF Government. WHO DO YOU THINK THOSE SUPPLIERS ARE? – The PF cadres who shared the money from infrastructure projects !!!
    I think Kambwili was just being used, there is a whole line behind him. ANd this should NOT be a suprise. Even Mr. Christopher Mvunga., was falling into the trap, WHY WAS HE EVEN SUGGESTING THAT KAMBWILI CONTACT HIM DIRECTLY ? The first part of the conversation was okay, but later on by dismissing the case, it appears Mr. Mvunga, was playing theater, just because the Permanent Secretary was involved and he himself was scared.

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  10. Is it possible to “help”? Is it wrong to help if people can help?

    How pathetic… really shows the low caliber of those who were running the country that they even imagine “doing favors” is how to run a central bank. CK says here it was an “innocent inquiry” which shows his ignorance even more. Pick your defense: stupid or corrupt. Hmmmm… better go for the first one, right CK? But if it was meant to be above board, why did it have to be a favor? Just follow the law.

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  11. A quote from Kambwili’s exonerates Bishop Imakando from those who painted him red when he said ‘many businesses are threatened with bankruptcy and that the country has over borrowed’. Kambwili said “This debt has chocked the local economy and has rendered many businesses to go into difficulties, bankruptcy and disruption”. THEREFORE IMAKANDO WAS RIGHT.

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  12. Sorry, CK. We are still investigating how Government accrued such huge debt. The tendering procedures and the amounts involved. Preliminary findings show that 99% of the Contractors are PF cadres.

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  13. I was surprised when both parties PF and Upnd were falling over each other to have this shameless character in their ranks. At labour ministry he benefited from giving work permits to underqualified foreigners therefore denying our people opportunities in the mining industry.

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  14. Christopher leaked the recording to show HH that he’s clean. Both Chris and Chishimba are kleptomaniacs. HH drop this governor – the dishonorable man!

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  15. We shall not be blindfolded. PF has done these tactics before. If he called and was controlled so what?
    We need the following please.
    FREE EDUCATION UP TO UNIVERSITY LEVEL
    LOWER TAX
    DESCENT JOBS
    WAGE INCREMENTS
    FUEL AT K7/L
    FERTILIZER AT K250/BAG

    STOP THE BUYING TIME GAMES.

    DAY 9

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  16. All those positions he held?!? Awe Zambians, we are very gullible. If anything, we now have an opportunity to get rid of these mwankoles! HH, please let your government be an open book. Zambia is a country with rich natural resources and all her people should benefit from these riches.

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  17. Thank you for clarifying sir. This is all a smear campaign by the evil upnd regime. I do not recognise the illegal govt and presidency of hh. I only recognise governments that are a by product of free and fair elections. Not that violence we saw that led to death of pf supporters.

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  18. Where’s Edith Nawakwi’s comment on this one? Have the Hatembo family of Kalomo stopped being of interest to her?

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  19. AFTER THE ELECTIONS CK NOW COMFESSES THAT THE ECONOMY IS CHOCKED? WAS HE NOT SAYING THERE WAS NOTHING WRONG PF GOVERNMENT, NOT EVEN DEBT AND VIOGOUSLY CAMPAIGNED THAT THE CHOCKING CONTINUES

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  20. Dr. KAMBWILI IS RIGHT TO INQUIRE I KNOW IN SOME COUNTRIES FOR EXAMPLE DEBT OWED TO CONTRACTORS WAS TURNED INTO GOVERNMENT BONDS AS A WAY OF GIVING GOVERNMENT A BREATHING SPACE TO PAY. IT IS A LEGITIMATE WAY OF DISMANTLING DOMESTIC DEBT. IT IS SOMETHING THE NEW GOVERNMENT SHOULD CONSIDER IF THE LAW ALLOWS. IT SHOWS THAT MVUNGA IS A CADER AND IS AN IGNORANT MAN.

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  21. MIND YOU THERE ARE INTEREST RATES ACCRUING ON THESE DATES EVERY DAY. SO TURNING THE DEBT INTO BONDS WILL SAVE GOVERNMENT IN PAYING MORE MONEY. NOTHING SINISTER AS MVUNGA WAS TRYING TO PUT IT TO DR. KAMBWILI.

  22. On this one? you may not come out clean?bro. You wanted to exchange fimo fimo with GRZ bonds just like that? Really? Kalulu tapusila imiku ibili. You know what that means? mwana? Anyway, good luck

  23. Chishimba Kambwili is a corrupt person and a long time he has be pretending to be a Saint. He is a criminal whatever he will tell the nation about the leaked video the fact is that his communication with Mr Christopher Mvunga is criminal and abuse of strategic government institutions.

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  24. I think these fulls like Kambwili and Mvunga think everybody thinks like them, this tribal thug still wants more shortcuts. Can you send him back where he belongs, and he even has the audacity to say he is clean, my foot

  25. I am shivering uncontrollably, just at the thought that this tribal thug could have been our Vice President under UPND alliance, Gods intervention came in very handy

  26. Really laughable…BUFFOON CK is already on borrowed time this pig should have been caged 12 months ago…this chap is even saying he is a politician yet he a governor, please sack this chap. BUFFOON CK is more annoyed with him saying that he was writing notes for him in parliament than the offence he has just committed.

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  27. Mr Kambwili’s troubles continue! It seems that those he thinks are his friends are really, his enemies. They hated his return to PF, and were just biding for time to pounce! This is the “dog eat dog” I talked about last year! That Mvunga guy really dobbed him in…despite repeatedly calling Mr Kambwili a friend. A friend eh? So sneaky!

  28. Little wonder Zambia is in deep debt. It appears, the so called Mvunga is giving tacit approval of handling such things directly with him than through emissaries. What is common among these 3 thieves is likely speaking same Zambian language and of course all corrupt and do not deserve to hold office that has anything to do with national duties!! Lock them all up! Someone remind Mvunga and Mukuli that they were sworn to uphold the Zambian laws and regulation. From the conversation, clearly none was accountable to the Zambian legal system, let alone the then executive (likely was in stupor!)

  29. BUFFOON CK can get himself arrested just by opening his big mouth…this guy if he was in US the FBI wouldn’t even arrest him just wire tap his phone and his dinning room as his mouth would give them so much information to implicate the whole criminal organisation.

  30. dog – Mvunga is one of them its just not clear when this was recorded…if it was a Senior PF official or Minister he would have been more receptive. No wonder the treasury is empty …I feel for the smart brains in BOZ to be lead by this moron only possible in Lazy Lungu’s govt.

  31. Mvunga should be FIRED and Kambwili arrested.
    Anyone who has listened to that video will realize that there is something wrong, something fishy going on. Mvunga was just defending because the PS was involved, in the end he revealed himself by asking the PS to just forget.
    Secondly, why is video appear on the same day that BOZ was giving their report?

  32. Why should Hichilema dismantle this huge debt owed to PF local suppliers and contractors? You know where Lungu relocated to and where Davis Mwila live, they’re the ones who contracted the debt, go to them for your chocking fake debt!

  33. This is frightening, what manner of uneducated stupid *****s have been running this country? And this Mukuli, who promoted this f.ucking mute run all over by Mvunga like this?

  34. I really like this guy to be honest its just unfortunate the way his political career looks now , i can only attribute that to lack of timing , poor judgement and a loud foul mouth. Smarten up dumbo or else you be irrelevant

  35. In olden days they used to castrate such characters, a tribalist of immeasured proportions. Wanting to continue with his shoddy deals and laundering himself as a business man when the chap is an outright crook

  36. I know i don’t like this man anymore because of his divisive language of tribe but is the Governor in order to record a conversation and later on circulate it? He is definitely no saint here.

  37. AS usual in all these the PS never objected …he was also implicit he was going to go either way this is how corruption works and this is how its works in all ministries its the same set up all they do is sign the papers and get their cut

  38. Both CK and Chris Mvunga are showing how corrupt the PF Govt was operating. The way Mvunga reacted revealed that he is not Professionally qualified to be Governor of BOZ. Why should ECL and the Chief Justice be involved in the day to day Operations of BOZ? The ECL Govt destroyed Govt Institutions by Politicising them. Hence BOZ, ECZ, Concourt, ZPS etc are not operating Professionally. All these Institutions will need to be overhauled and made accountable. Bally will fix it.

  39. A kabolala mascarading as a professional…..anyway he says he is politician and is friends with ck as they worked together in parliament….he the guv used to write responds for ck because ck knew nothing….wonder what he knows now….anyway illegal contracts cannot attract interest so those ‘roads’ you were pretending to construct with no engineering background…those drainages you were clearing at slow pace….that land you were grabbing and allocating yourselves will lead you to were you belong…we haven’t yet sent the bulldozer to water aquifer aka forest 27! you were warned about your exercise in futility you didn’t listen

  40. This recording was deliberately leaked to win some limelight by Mvunga. Too late bwana. Not different from Miles Sampa and Chikwanda blaming this one and that one in the sunken PF. They should have done so before the titanic sunk.

    • Exactly Bashi Chite. And, by the way, Ba Mvunga did you listen to the video before you posted it? Or is it someone else who posted this video? What a Central Bank Governor! Kwati tukashana utwaice utulelaka panuma ya kuteya umupila wa kuminwe. Even when you went on to say all those statements, you even revealed to us that you are friends. you further said let us leave it here, and then you say you will write the chief justice, were you drunk or just confused because you did not know how to escape the sacking. Sorry mwaiche wandi, this video exposes you even more. Just a matter of time and I will be surprised, no not surprised, shocked actually if you will be spared.

  41. A Leopard will never change to become a sheep, convict kambwili will remain a criminal all the time…..shame to this umwinewachisushi chisushi chake chati nunkila ise bantu benangu

  42. Mvunga is also in the game from the way he was talking. It is sad and embarassing to listen to their conversation, like Grade 7 girls fighting over a boyfriend, honestly! Shame!

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