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Joe Biden cancels meeting with HH after Nalumango gay rights snub

Headlines Joe Biden cancels meeting with HH after Nalumango gay rights snub

The highly publicized meeting between US President Joe Biden and President Hakainde Hichilema has been cancelled after Vice President Mutale Nalumango told Parliament that Zambia will not entertain gay rights.

According to an earlier programme released by the Zambian Mission in Washington, President Hichilema was due to meet President Biden at the White House on Thursday but that meeting has now been called off.

On Saturday, Foreign Affairs and International Cooperation Minister Stanley Kakubo confirmed that President Hichilema will not meet President Biden but that he will only meet Vice President Kamala Harris on Tuesday in Washington.

But senior Diplomats at the Zambian Mission in Washington have revealed that the decision to call off the meeting between President Hichilema and President Biden came after Vice President Nalumango’s statement in Parliament on Friday.

The Diplomats added that by snubbing a highly publicized meeting with the Zambian Head of State, the White House wanted to send a clear message that it will take a strong stance against nations opposing gay rights.

“We understand that our colleagues are very upset with Vice President Nalumango’s answer in Parliament largely because since President Hichilema came in, indications from the Chargé d’Affaires David Young have been that Zambia is now ready to embrace gay rights with the coming in of the New Dawn but with that statement in Parliament, our colleagues here are very upset hence cancelling the meeting to send a signal to Lusaka,” the diplomat source revealed.

“Nigeria was recently threatened with financial and travel sanctions over the same issue of gay rights and we will not be too surprised if Zambia gets the same bashing from the US over Vice President Nalumango’s statement,” they said.

When answering a question from Kabushi Member of Parliament Bowman Lusambo on government position on gay rights, Mrs Nalumango categorically stated that the Hichilema administration will not accept gay rights.

Mr Lusambo wanted to know if there was a change in Zambia’s stance on gay rights following the election of President Hichilema.

“When it comes to government position, we respond to official statements that we have made. Social media can say what they want, that is not our position. We have to find it as a fact for us to start finding time on that. I will not come here and start discussing the American President’s statement. The issue of how other nations handle the issues of rights is not exactly how we do it,” Mrs Nalumango said.

She added, “It is very sad that members of this August House know we are members of the international community and within the international community, there is sovereignty of each country and each country has its own laws, rules, regulation, traditions and culture.”

“For these Honourable Members to start thinking because we are friends with one particular nation or we are members of one organization then we pick everything, aint we members of SADC, I will not complete because the Honourable Member who is asking understands exactly what I mean. Nations within the SADC have different positions on gay rights, different members of UN have different positions on gay rights, so is the AU.”

Mrs Nalumango reiterated that Zambia is a Christian Nation and that the declaration will remain on the country’s statutes.

“We are a Christian Nation and that remains on the books. If this government at any one time wants gay rights, you will be the first to know but we are a Christian Nation, we continue to be who we are,” Mrs Nalumango said.

90 COMMENTS

  1. We thank Almighty God about this stand we knew why the President was invited to White House and this does not come as a surprise that the meeting has been cancelled

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  2. The discrimination of gay rights in Africa as nothing to do with notion of Christian nation,it’s merely culture problem and the reason I say that it’s because Christianity it self does not allow persecution of people as result of sin the bible indicates that judgement is for God alone and furthermore a question for those who appose gay rights in the name of Christianity if you gone arrest gay people becouse a sin is committed why don’t you not arrest others people for committing sins such as sexual sin & etc.

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  3. We admire the US, so many things and opportunities available to it’s people than Zambia. But we will not be having sex with the same sex.

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  4. flag Corruption scandals: 48 Houses Social Security Cash Luxury Presidential Jet Ambulances Fire Trucks Mukula Trees Ndola-Lusaka Rd Malawi Maizegate Fuelgate Swaziland landgate Zesco Loans Honeybee

    Biggest mistake… there’s a political way to dodge such questions. These guys are rookies, they are dancing to the gallery and being reactive to political failures like the PF minions.
    “Christian nation” my a$s! How come we have rights for murderers, corrupt, thieves, adulterers, non-believers, sycophants, blasphemers, etc. Is being gay the worst ‘sin’ by Christians? What kind of hypocrisy is this? Doesn’t the Constitution say no discrimination based on sexual orientation?
    You had an opportunity to be a great friend of the Greatest, most powerful country on earth and you mess up the opportunity by falling for criminal Lusambo’s tricks? What a country!

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  5. flag Corruption scandals: 48 Houses Social Security Cash Luxury Presidential Jet Ambulances Fire Trucks Mukula Trees Ndola-Lusaka Rd Malawi Maizegate Fuelgate Swaziland landgate Zesco Loans Honeybee

    Many years ago children who were born with disabilities like 6 fingers used to be thrown away or killed as outcasts and evil. In my culture if a new baby’s mother died in labour, they would bury the live baby with the dead mother. Not long ago black people used to be sold as slaves because they were seen as not humans.

    Before Jesus arrived the bible says people would demand prostitutes to be stoned to death. Some Christians condemn sone types of muslims for stoning adulterers to death.

    Hiven the background above, when are we going to evolve as a people?

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  6. Zambians sometimes are busy bodies…what do you want to do with gays? Do you actually believe that you are better than the people who give gays and lesbians equal rights with everybody? The hypocrisy is amazing.

    The Christian Nation name tag you are pursuing is senseless because , look at the previous leaders , only in name. I am pretty sure some of them are heathen. Anyway, keep lying to yourself. South Africa has enshrined gay rights, anything calamitous with that?

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  7. @4. I hope you know that the Zambian Penal Code is very clear and your, “How come we have rights for murderers, corrupt, thieves, adulterers, non-believers, sycophants, blasphemers, etc.?” is a clear failure to understand what you are saying.

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  8. The arm-twisting by the supposedly most powerful nation in the world of the pro-western UPND government in desperate need of funding from them has just begun. For those in support of gay rights on this site, they need to know that not everyone in Western countries supports gays. Conservative parties in Western countries do not support gays even when they tolerate them. Supports or no support for gay rights is a matter of choice of the values a country considers to be morally desirable for itself. No country should sit in judgment of another country over the values it chooses for itself. No African country forces a western country to adopt polygamy even when this may be considered morally desirable by some African societies with more women than men. Point of reference here is that of the…

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    • Excellent, brilliant contribution! These so called powerful nations think we Africans don’t use our brains. Why force my neighbour to embrace the rules l have in my home and if they refuse l hate them..mmmh. Sth fishy with these people. Let them do whatever they want . Viva our vice president. Thank you.

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  9. Why do us Zambians always want to bring politics where it’s not necessary. Joe Biden cancellation of the meeting is got nothing to do with the Vice President’s statement on Gay rights. Oppositions stop it and give chance to the new government to perform and be judged accordingly. This is less than a month in office you are already politicking. This is why we don’t progress as a Nation.

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  10. It’s important for Government to have a clear position on some matters to avoid diplomatic gaffes. It’s not the first time that this matter is on the floor of the house. Martin Malama even laid it on the table that the UPND was a member of a group of political parties that had accepted to promote gay rights. It was said that part of the sponsorship that they received was from promoters of gay rights. So the position as given by Witina seems to suggest that they have gone back on what they pledged to their sponsors. This is why it’s important for us to tackle how we fund political parties. Most of the money circulating in political circles is either stolen or has weird conditions attached. We can’t be free when even our elections are funded by others. Let’s face it we don’t have 100%…

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  11. We told people to be careful with the hollow praises and sudden importance accorded to Zambia by those who have no history of love for Africa and her people! Here it is, even in seeking IMF and World Bank help, we must tread carefully and keep our respect ties with other powers like China and ensure that we do not bond ourselves forever to these institutions controlled by colonial powers!! THE BEST IS TO ALWAYS TELL THE WEST THAT THIS ISSUE OF GAY RIGHTS IS LEAST ON OUR PRIORITIES BECAUSE POVERTY AND UNDER DEVELOPMENT ARE WHAT THE MASSES LINE UP TO VOTE ON BECAUSE THEY DIRECTLY AFFECT THEIR LIVES!

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    • Then don’t go asking for loans or money to help fund projects. It may not be your issue but it is there issue, so don’t ask for loans and run your country best way you want. If I have the money and want to lend you that money, I have every right to ask for conditions, if you don’t like my conditions, great go to China.

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  12. We can get help or Aid and we can have best
    Relations with US but on gay rights sorry we
    Don’t support.God created man and woman
    For a purpose.If that will stop aid let it be.

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  13. Children when I told you about INCLUSIVE RIGHTS MEANT GAY RIGHTS you gave me several thumbs down. The Chinese will build roads etc for you without attaching conditions, the USA will give you IMF on condition you introduce inclusiveness.

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  14. I dont know why UPND keep falling for this PF bait ..they are no longer in opposition, you have already made your position on this matter the best you would have done is emphasis on the need for assistance Zambia badly needs. Zambians are happy to accept all these financial assistance from the West and never ask themselves where the money is coming from..these govts have a reasonability to their taxpayers as well.

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  15. #14 TO PF bait what bait? I encouraged people to get rid of the PF but didn’t expect this childish excitement about meeting another human being from the Upnd. Raising the bar?

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  16. Lies ,

    Biden just did not deem meeting HEHH more important then his other commitments…….nothing to do with the VP.

    Also just watch uhuru kenyattas interview with Christian ammampour on CNN and learn how progressive leaders navigate this gay rights issue while still needing good relations with the west….

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  17. Previous analytics said this meeting with Biden has the US-china conflict as its background, it seems now Zambia is not so important as should be allied to tackle China in the eyes of USA, instead what Biden wants is for Zambia to introduce gay rights.
    Some authorities are being challenged. Personally I don’t think common Zambians life would be affected much should gay rights be legalized. You still live your own life when gays live theirs isn’t so? Sometimes I dread the gays and am not comfortable with them but it’s just a psychological issue. Other times I understand that they suffer, they suffer in the same way as those suffering from racial discrimination, and those disabled who are rejected by mainstream society.

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    • First response that makes sense. Imagine if we have laws that say, you cant marry along tribal lines, if you are bemba and married a bemba that’s not an issue to you unless i’m a Cewa who married a Tonga. We need to fight for rights for everyone because our day of reckoning is around the corner. Freedom to live and be who you are should not be detected by some politician.

  18. The Americans should know that Zsmbia is a independent soverign nation. They xan go to hell.with their cultural imperialism!

    We would rather be poor and free in a shack than be rich slaves in a mansion!

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  19. Bututu pa Zed and misleading information/explanation by the Zambian Embassy in Washington DC! High time that names be mentioned for people to be accountable and identified with what they say! Anyway the Zambian embassy staff in DC is still PF appointed! Do most Zambians know or understand that the US Vice-presidents’ office is also in the White House?

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  20. Biden is under pressure on numerous issues for those that are reading the news. He is also a senior citizen who can only do so many meetings at a time. US did not provide any official statement. Why are we assuming the meeting was specifically related to gay rights?? The gay population still remains a same number globally and hardly doubt any president would be putting priority to their demands. There is more important things.

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  21. LT please also publish: U.S. President Joe Biden on Tuesday announced a meeting next week with key regional players that form the so-called “Quad” — India, Australia and Japan together with the U.S. — for in-person talks the White House said are meant to show the administration’s commitment to “promoting a free and open Indo-Pacific.” HH needs to get rid of the US ambassador and his team if possible.

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  22. #21 Why should knowing the location of Kamala Harris’ office be of importance to a Zambian. These guys don’t even know where Zambia is I experienced this at one of the Macy’s stores when I had problems to explain to him where Zambia was.

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  23. I wouldn’t read too much into why Mr Biden has decided against meeting the Zambian delegation.

    Considering how diplomacy works, I really don’t think that meeting the Zambian delegation, hinged entirely, on the Zambian Nation, firstly – categorically, stating it’s position on gay rights. If anything, I think, the Americans would prefer to meet the delegation and stating their preferences.

    So, cancelling the meeting could be for various legitimate reasons, including being busy, & avoiding possible Covid-19 infection etc. Mind you, Zambia is red listed for travel to most countries in the West. Perhaps, next time will do! Kamara Harris is just as good!

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  24. Biden was not scheduled to meet HH…and I told you guys but you kept on scolding me…it was just a spin on UPND’s part…they wanted to feel all that important and that’s the problem when you employ someone who’s not qualified to be a press aid..this was Anthony Bwalya trying to do some PR job for HH but it never worked out…am Journalist myself and Anthony Bwalya is trying to be a spin doctor for HH but he’s not creative enough…so don’t buy into what the media is saying about HH meeting Biden…it wasn’t even on the table

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  25. HH should tame his ego…he wants to put himself where he doesn’t belong…he lied to people in Mkushi that he owns a plane…of which he does not…now he thinks he can just mingle with the President of the USA like he is his friend …Biden didn’t even schedule meeting HH…and he probably doesn’t even know who HH is…but because HH walks around thinking he is a small god…Just be yourself bwana HH….in office less than a month and he wants to act like veterans Kagame and Museveni

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  26. GAY RIGHTS WILL PREVAIL IN ZAMBIA
    YOU ARE ALL LIVING IN THE DARK AGES
    IT IS AN INDIVIDUAL CHOICE AND NOT BY DESIGN THEY ARE BORN SUCH
    SO STOP TALKING ABOUT YOUR GODS AND DO RESEACH ON JESUS,

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  27. For all I care, the Americans can go to hell with their gay rights. We are not going to sink so low as to agree to accept gay rights just because we want aid from them. Never! Even animals in the wild know which animal to mate with. As Mpepo (No, 20) correctly states, we would rather be poor and free in a shack than be rich slaves in a mansion!

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  28. Hello.
    All the gays in this comment box imyeni amaboko tupepe.
    What more can you learn? Are you sure that your bedroom key does open the front door as well??
    Why do you want to prove dogs to be more intelligent than you?

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  29. Meeting cancelation has nothing to do with gay rights. Biden at the moment has his hands full with the Afghanistan issue and rising covid.

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  30. What Zambians need is emancipation from poverty, ignorance, disease, hunger and squalor and not wasting time on non issues. When asked about the gay issue Pope Francis responded “who am I to judge them, it is between them and God”. This is the wise approach to take on this issue. Beyond religion, discrimination based on ethnicity, tribe, color, race religion, sexual orientation etc. is wrong. The recent past should teach Zambian society that intolerance has no limits. The gay view among many people is comparable to the stigma that the Pharisees had on Lepers- a case of religious beliefs and teachings. Jesus broke this stigma by showing love and accepting societal outcasts. He did not become a leper himself but had love and tolerance for these God created people. I hope we Christians…

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  31. IT IS VERY DISSAPOINTING THAT THE VP (HON NALUMANGO) TOOK THE BAIT DANGLED BY THE PF CRIMINALS WHO HAVE NOTHING TO OFFER THE COUNTRY. THERE ARE INEED POLITICAL WAYS OF ADDRESSING SUCH QUESTIONS THAT POSE DIPLOMATIC CHALLENGES LIKE GAY RIGHTS. THEY DO NOT NEED TO ANSWER EVERY QUESTION THAT THE PF POSES AT THIS TIME. THEY HAVE TIME TO SET THEIR PRIORITIES.PRESIDENT UHURU KENYATA OF KENYA ADDRESSED THIS VERY WELL BY SAYING KENYA HAD OTHER PRIORITIES OF IMPROVING THE ECONOMY AND LIVES OF ALL PEOPLE. IT WAS RECKLESS FOR VP TO MAKE SUCH STATMENTS AT THE TIME WHEN THE PRESIDENT WAS EMBARKING ON HIS MAIDEN TRIP TO THE US.

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  32. KNOW THAT BIDEN & THE DEMOCRATICS UNLIKE THE REPUBLICANS THEM THE GAYS RIGHTS
    IS A BIG ISSUE, BUT ALSO THAT HIS GOVERNMENT HAS A LOT CHALLENGES , ZAMBIA NEED
    TO FOCUS ON BUILDING OUR OWN ECONOMY AND THAT THE USA ARE HERE FOR
    NOTHING ,BUT BUSINESS ONLY AND THEIR OTHER INTERESTS .

    SO LET ZAMBIA BE ZAMBIA , ALSO AMERICA IS NOT AS YOU HEAR ABOUT IT, WE ARE BETTER
    COUNTRY ALL WE NEED IS TO REBUILD OUR COUNTRY’S ECONOMY , THE USA HAS HOMELESS PEOPLE THAN THE REST
    OF AFRICA , BUT LOOK AT THE SEGREGATION OF THE BLACKS AND OTHER SO CALLED MINORITIES

  33. Zambians are more Christians than original Christians?

    Fake Christians, womanising, drunkards, liars, thieves, hypocrites, all thes apply to majority of Zambians. They have mortgaged their nrains. What culture they talk about, n7dity, polygamy, concubines, extramarital affairs, all these dinning majority and pretend to be holier than thou.

    If west , South Africa, most of the Asian countries ( except a few Muslim countries), even UAE has legalised it, what stupid.ity poverty stricken backward uneducated zombies talk about?
    Bible thumpers?

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  34. If you read and follow my comments then you’d understand that Saulosi is not just an ordinary blogger…people insult me and call me names but my response is always subtle….I mentioned earlier..like 2 days ago even before Nalumango gay comments and I indicated that HH was not going to meet Biden…Spaka and Tarino Orange scolded me…..like the USA really cares of what’s happening in HH’s…kulibonesha…Bally President….President wa ma yo….boza

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  35. It is a pity that the US foreign policy is meant to dictate and destabilise other nations and impose anything they believe in. The matter of fact is that we cannot all be like America and change our culture and way of life just to look or meet the standard of their perceived civilisation. We Zambians should instead be promoting and embracing our cultures. This issues of gays has nothing to do with christianity, since when do we make laws or rules based on religion? LGBT rights are not welcome due to our cultural beliefs and because of that we do not entertain them. But that does not mean we do not have such people in our midst.

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  36. Zambiano.
    You don’t know America and Joe Baden and Obama those guys don’t live for nothing but gay rights and abortion.
    I don’t know weather you even read the article if you did then you don’t understand the English language, it was plain and political to scrap the meeting between Zambian president and Joe Baden , it was because of the answer the Zambian vice-president gave to the house concerning the gay rights.
    America cannot support any government that doesn’t support their support for the gay rights their understanding is that you should follow their way of wrong beliefs about humanity.

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  37. SPAKA, SPAKA, SPAKA, SPAKA

    The joke is on you. Kikiki, Kikiki, Kikiki…… I hope you will not choke in your sleep then again you said you work 24/7 in the Media. You went on and on about this trip by HH to USA as if Joe Biden is your grandfather. To the point of getting very personal and insulting anyone who questioned the trip. You are a sick person.

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  38. Blame blame blame
    On who
    Everything happens for a purpose
    Still same old phrase
    Lets see the fruits of the Presidents trip
    Then we react not just for the sake of being heard

  39. President have Press Aids…and a Press should be very creative…you talk on behalf of the President…but what am seeing is Anthony Bwalya trying to be a Spin Doctor but he doesn’t have the qualities…he’s not creative enough….No disrespect…but HH needs people who can build his image….I said HH was not going to meet Biden…and UPND bloggers jumped on me…..Kulibonesha….he is forgetting that he is the President of Zambia but to him that’s not enough he still wants to thrust himself in there with the Putins and Bidens and Trumps….those are on different levels…Instead of being close to your neighbors you jump overseas trying to befriend people who don’t like your kind…HH thinks America is a country to fool around with…just get the little donations you get in your…

  40. And if you follow at first the whole story started as if HH was on official state visit to the USA invited by the USA government…after I gave them a body check..that’s when they revealed that it was actually a trip to the UN General Assembly..but like always Spaka and Tarino Orange insulted me……so don’t twist the story….Biden was not scheduled to meet HH period…stop making yourselves feeling good about something that wasn’t even on the table

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  41. @54 X Fatcor
    I questioned the trip in a very honest and positive way but Spaka and Tarino Orange were insulting me and anyone else who questioned…..i remember Tarino even saying Lazy Lungu didn’t meet the President of the USA in 7 years he’s been in office…these guys took it very personal and yet it was just Anthony Bwalya playing some amateurish spin Doctor work…the bottom line is HH is coming to the UN General Assembly period…and no Biden HH meeting was ever scheduled…period…but Spaka thinks Biden is his Uncle and personal friend to HH….

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  42. The only problem with lying is that you suppose to come up with more lies to back up the the first/initial lie….after the first Biden lie now it’s Biden gay lie…..but Anthony Bwalya should be very careful he shouldn’t just lie and come up with his imaginary meetings and later say it was canceled when in the actual sense there was no such a meeting….bufi bufi…

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  43. UPND please you’re on international stage now…so keep lying limited to state house…don’t embarrass Zambia on international stage with your cheap lies….you can lie to Zambian voters but don’t come here to the USA and bring in with you your usual lies….

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  44. SAULOSI # 58

    You are the man. A big kudos to you. You have debated in the last week
    very objectively and got insulted. Yet you rose above their pettiness and
    maintained your stand. Their Public Relations has backfired

    INDEPENDENT OBSERVER and yourself SAULOSI are the people
    I always look forward to read your perspectives. You both get scolded
    and insulted and you never reduce yourselves to toilet tissue.
    I am just surprised that SPAKA is not blogging multiple times on this topic.
    He worships HH like he is GOD of Zambia. I really think this guy is wacko.

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  45. Sorry… used someone psydo by error

    SAULOSI # 58
    You are the man. A big kudos to you. You have debated in the last week
    very objectively and got insulted. Yet you rose above their pettiness and
    maintained your stand.

    INDEPENDENT OBSERVER and yourself SAULOSI are the people
    I always look forward to read your perspectives. You both get scolded
    and insulted and you never reduce yourselves to toilet tissue.
    I am just surprised that SPAKA is not blogging multiple times on this topic.
    He worships HH like he is GOD of Zambia.
    I really think this guy is wacko.

  46. Looks like some people are missing the “good PF days ‘ going by their comments. Question is…why would one choose insanity over sanity?

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  47. Zambia rejects the gay agenda that’s being imposed on African nations by the West. Zambia is a Christian nation. Why won’t the West impose this gay agenda on Muslim Arab nations? Because they know that these nations do not entertain such stuff. The West thinks African nations are easy to corrupt with decadent values. Again we reject the gay agenda in Zambia. Keep your moral decadence in the West.

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  48. When I was in secondary School, there was this group of students who were driving amaonda ( motor bike) and was wondering how their parents would afford such machines. Then we started to see whitemem coming to pick them from school. Later on we learnt that they were being ” used”.

  49. When you are in leadership the population does not become infantile. If the Zambian population feel they do not want gay rights then they do not want gay rights. Simple. However do not go into peoples homes to monitor their sex lives.

  50. @Lusaakaa#33, what did you say? you are funny. Here again the PF has demonstrated their prowess and mastery in trickery and deceit through Lusambo. The VP should have been more diplomatic in projecting the Zambian stand on the matter. Diplomacy was found wanting in our VP, play it better next time you are now on the International stage not on a campaign trail in Kaputa. I am a hard Core UPN, FYI.

  51. I quote TIKKI @ 32 ‘ GAY RIGHTS WILL PREVAIL IN ZAMBIA
    YOU ARE ALL LIVING IN THE DARK AGES
    IT IS AN INDIVIDUAL CHOICE AND NOT BY DESIGN THEY ARE BORN SUCH’ End of quote…………….TIKKI do you realize that the USA has been caught in Satan’s deception? This was all written before you where even born and yet you tell people to to a research on their God’s and Jesus? Just because you too the devil has deceived and you maybe practicing this vile act? Let me tell you something, never question what God has written and never taste things that He detests….your life and soul in his hands is like chaff in the wind, ready to be blown any moment…YOU say its an individual choice? “ Tikki, You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.”Lev 18:22. Gayism and Lesbians…

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    • Sleepy joe here is another law from the Bible. I want you to call Parliament and advocate for this law.The God of the Bible also allows slavery, including selling your own daughter as a sex slave (Exodus 21:1-11), child abuse (Judges 11:29-40 & Isaiah 13:16), and bashing babies against rocks (Hosea 13:16 & Psalms 137:9). This type of criminal behavior should shock any moral person. If your morality comes from the bible please call parliament and ask that those laws become part of Zambia. Make Zambia the Taliban nation

  52. DO YOU KNOW THAT IN A AMERICA, THEY NOW SAY IT IS OKAY TO HAVE INTERCOURSE WITH A menstruating WOMAN, HAVE INTERCOURSE WITH 2 SISTERS (Without shame), bestiality? I am really pissed off with your insane mind when you posted the following @32

    GAY RIGHTS WILL PREVAIL IN ZAMBIA
    YOU ARE ALL LIVING IN THE DARK AGES
    IT IS AN INDIVIDUAL CHOICE AND NOT BY DESIGN THEY ARE BORN SUCH

    They where born like that to have sex with a menstruating female? Sick mind

  53. Things which is contrary to the Bible,
    its not good for the nation like Zambia . It doesn’t matter where its coming from, thank you Mrs Nalumango for your statement.

  54. Hmm. Was that supposed to be a source of “senior PF diplomats at the Washington Mission”? And who wrote this article anyway, it is not reported anywhere else

  55. If the President of the USA is judging Zambia on this issue alone – when there are much more important issues eg the economy, then maybe it is a good thing that HH doesn’t meet him. Let’s fix the economy and create jobs before worrying about other issues…..

  56. This is a question to all Zambians. How does one man having intercourse with another man affect you? I know for sure, It doesn’t affect you. Two adults should be able to do so, if they have no interest in women and it goes for women who don’t like men. Government should never be in the business of legislating sex unless we are talking about children or beastiality because animals can’t consent and same with children. Imagine if the Government made a law sayin saying, you can only have sex between your race or marry within your race, will that be acceptable? How about, no sex before marriage? People who are gay are different than you and me, but they are not in a gay relationship simply because of sex. If you married someone because of sex then that’s a problem. You call yourself a…

  57. I also want to say, Zambia should not follow the principle of a ” Christian Nation” because then, it means Government has taken a side on what Religion it endorses, as a new Democracy don’t make mistakes that will mean other religions or non religious people get judged or eventually be persecuted. Learn from so called Islamic nations, it is a matter of time before crazy Christians will be the Zambian Taliban, what if they decide to put laws in line with the bible? Would you agree to stoning women found committing adultery? How about “No sharing chairs with a menstruating woman. According to Leviticus 15, a menstruating woman is considered to be ritually unclean for seven days? We have so many bad rules to today’s standards in the bible. Overzealous Christians if they ever get power,…

  58. Because America welcomes gay rights, Zambia must pattern itself after moral degradation? It’s called independence of principles. Give me one animal specie engaging in gayism. If animals can appreciate the tools of procreation and use them correctly, humans cannot see the folly? We have people on this blog preaching “we must evolve”. First of all speak for yourself. A wrong is a wrong no matter how glamorous you dress it.

  59. I think people are creating drama for no good reason. To start with Bally is meeting a representative of Biden, the vice president of USA. That is equivalent to meeting the President. It is no snub. A snub would have been cancelling the meeting. Perhaps Biden is busy or something came up. Coming to the issue of gay rights, by now Zambia should have had a firm policy of how to engage other nations on this matter. This matter has been running for a long time and has been heavily politicized. If you look at the US presidency, it is a very political position and the President is under pressure to be gay friendly. Unfortunately they have a double standard on this issue because they will treat European countries like Russia and Hungary differently than a country like Malawi on the same matter…

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  60. @ St .Sweet Angus. Gayism is an abomination. ”Lev 18:22. Gayism and Lesbians…Tell me something. Have you ever seen a male animal having sex with a fellow male animal?

  61. In my opinion,
    We do not tell the USA on what to and not to permit in their country; they should realize each country is a sovereign state.
    I quote @44 RB: ‘Zambians are more Christians than original Christians?

    Fake Christians, womanising, drunkards, liars, thieves, hypocrites, all thes apply to majority of Zambians. They have mortgaged their nrains. What culture they talk about, n7dity, polygamy, concubines, extramarital affairs, all these dinning majority and pretend to be holier than thou.’

    I wish to first remind you that there are fake Christians everywhere. Hypocrisy exists in a number of religions.
    Second, stop criticizing our culture and beliefs. You do not know everything. Heck, I bet you didn’t even know this country existed, did you? Our culture is non of your…

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