By Dr Jonas Chanda
In my debate in Parliament on the 2020 Budget allocation to the Ministry of National Guidance and Religious Affairs, I have responded to Leader of the Opposition in the House and UPND Member of Parliament for Monze Hon. Jack Mwiimbu’s assertions that since the United Nations (U.N.) supports GAY RIGHTS, why should Zambia contradict the UN or is Zambia going to pull out of the UN?
Firstly, the PREAMBLE of the Constitution of Zambia states that “WE, THE PEOPLE OF ZAMBIA: ACKNOWLEDGE the supremacy of God Almighty; DECLARE the Republic a Christian Nation…” Since Christianity does not support gay rights or gay marriage, the Patriotic Front (PF) party and Zambia as a nation do NOT GAY RIGHTS or GAY MARRIAGE either. Moreover, Zambia is a Sovereign State and not a colony of the U.N. or any other international body, and the Constitution of Zambia is the Supreme Law of the land above any other international agreements to which we have a right to accede or not, or even pull out.
Article 8 of the Constitution also highlights the National Values and Principles, among which are MORALITY and ETHICS, PATRIOTISM and NATIONAL UNITY, and DEMOCRACY and CONSTITUTIONALISM
It shows the LACK of LEADERSHIP when the leader of the Opposition in Parliament says that UPND will NOT associate with the PF on any key national events like Independence Day, National Day of Prayer, Heroes and Unity Day, Labour Day, Africa Freedom Day, and others. These commemorative events, some of which are international, are above petty partisan politics and are bigger than both the PF and UPND. In national matters, PATRIOTISM should always trump PARTISANSHIP.
My advice to the UPND leader Mr Hakainde Hichilema is to show PATRIOTISM and stop deliberately misleading the nation by his claims that private investors from the US have pledged to invest over US$25.8 billion in Zambia in the first 5 years of his administration if he becomes President without any firm commitments. This is the same way Zambians were duped by the same western “investors” and “institutions” over the scandalous Privatisation programs of the 1990s in which Mr Hichilema participated and which saw Zambian mines, companies and assets being stripped and sold for a song at the expense of the country.
UPND is also being hypocritical on CONSTITUTIONALISM. On the one hand, they Oppose and Boycott the Constitution-refinement process to which they were invited at the National Dialogue Forum (NDF) and have totally refused to make submissions to the Parliamentary Select Committee on the Constitution Amendment Bill No.10. On the other hand, they state in their Manifesto (page 11) under the title “NEW CONSTITUTION FOR NEW ZAMBIA” that they support the following amendments to the Constitution:
50% plus 1 majoritarian President, VP running mate, Cabinet from outside Parliament, Recall of non-performing MPs, Genuine Separation of Powers, EXPANDED BILL OF RIGHTS BILL, Constitutional Court, Referendum to enhance Constitutionalism, Avoidance of bye-elections, Proportional representation, Approval of acquisition of external debt (borrowing) by Parliament, and Repeal of “obnoxious” pieces of legislation.
Why is UPND NOT courageous enough to come and state these positions publicly and participate in the Constitution refinement process so that together we can have a Constitution that stands the test of time? And Zambians should remember that it is the UPND who misled many Zambians and vigorously campaigned against the same EXPANDED BILL OF RIGHTS in the Referendum of 2016 and made sure it failed. Today they are claiming to support it. Shame!
I also call on UPND to advise one of their key supporters, a traditional leader from Livingstone, to stop threatening NATIONAL UNITY and PEACE through his careless talk aimed at “EXPORTING TRIBALISM” and “DISUNITY” to PF with his wild claims that different tribal and regional factions are jostling for power in PF. This traditional chief, instead of promoting National Unity, is doing the opposite and is hell-bent on exporting the same dangerous and toxic TRIBALISM and REGIONALISM that has haunted UPND into the PF. It is however gratifying that Chief Luchembe, on behalf of the Bemba Royal Establishment, has dismissed his claims with the contempt they deserve.
Issued by:
The Author is a Ruling Patriotic Front Member of Parliament, Bwana Mkubwa Constituency in Ndola
Walasa, bebe.
All points raised here are valid. That chief in the article is definitely chief’ee Mukuni.
Uyu nkusa h² alegoleka ichalo.
I can only urge Mwiimbu Jack to grow a brain. The deads are trynna justify their association with ALN and their tribadistic behavior. They are bend not straight. Crazy tribadists.
Uyu nkusa h² alesampwisha ichalo no mwenso walipwa.
Uyu nkusa h² aliswamo muma mines. ICIJ reports the nigga is tax evading, has offshore accounts. Panama and Bermuda and the Bahamas on the list.
Uyu nkusa h² mupupu uwakamamo amenshi.
The deads will cry again in 2021
Jonas, what was going on in your household? Sounds like you guys were molested, takwaba behaviour ya soo.
This man is a liar and does not know what he is talking about.
True christianity is the most tolerant religion and embraces all manner of deviants in order to bring them into the fold. It is sad that people like this misleader Jonas Fimofimo are going around heaping shame and misrepresenting the holy name of Christ in order to fill his belly.
My friend Jonas Chanda, stop taking the name of the Lord in vain to satisfy your lust for power and other temporary needs. If you persist in this path you and generations after you will reap a painful harvest. You have been warned.
Kikikikikikiki
Upnd supporters sound strange on this subject. This matter looks like an energy sapper to them.But keep the conversation going. Chanda has made a point, the reaction is somewhat equivocal indeed.
Titambako che vija.
UPND is caught pants down on gay support, constitution. Upnd has no vision at all
Yet another Chanda spoiling the Sunday.
Doctor, I do not care a F*CK about your hypocritical rambling about Constitutionalism. As a member of Plunderers Federation, your comments sound plain crap. Your boss stated clearly in his press rambling that Constitutional provisions are just empty worlds. Otherwise, how can you justify refusal of your fellow PLUNDERERS to comply with CONSTITUTIONAL COURT?
As to Patriotism, WTF are you crapping about?
Do you know the difference between baing “Plunderer” and “Patriot”?
Does stealing, robbing, bribing, torturing, been incompetent, nepotism, forming private militia, destroying economy, getting rich quick by dubious means, disregarding rule of law, ignoring and perpetuating human right abuses, spreading pedophilia in the “slaughter…
“slaughter house”, being Christian and condoning extra-judicial murders and been corrupt to the last milligram of bone-marrow qualify your lot to be “patriotic”, then any decent human must be proud no to be “patriotic” according to your “patriotic requisites”.
Lastly, you F*CK!NG Hypocritical political h00ker, why you are always begging from LGBT community for help? If you have slightest decency (which you don’t), have balls and raise the issue in the GA of UN. Why are you scared? Refuse aid from the Countries or International organisations which recognize LGBT rights. Or even better, send your militia composed of “patriotic” rapists, thieves, murderers and pedophiles to protest in front of the offices and embassies of the “guy loving” Countries and International…
…International Organisations. Why are you scared?
Let me be frank, your crapping shows why yourself and your fellow plunderers merit the title of the biggest Christian HYPOCRITE.
ARE ZAMBIANS SO DULL TO BE TREATED THIS WAY BY THE CHANDA’S. OR THERE IS A PANDEMIC AMONG THE CHANDA’S WHICH MoH NEEDS TO QUICKLY LOOK INTO BEFORE IT’S TOO LATE.
SORRY! IN ZAMBIA WE PLAY DIFFERENT BALL.
In Zambia, a man shall not wire another man. No woman should tribadist another woman.
It is a law in Zambia. Not UN but in Zambia. We will accept their money yes and play dochukubeba in Zambia.
In Zambia no party that supports the bend will enter the kingdom of State House.
In Zambia if you wanna transgress this law, may be in Chimbokaila and the bunkers where the eyes of the law can’t see your tribadistic behavior, you will be incarcerated.
Generally in Africa no man or woman should mount another man or woman period.
@thorn in the Flesh lacks sanity and sense.
What you see in the diaspora remains in those domains.
I thank you.
I think UPND will allow homosexuality if they win 2021 elections. Their language is equivocal about this matter. God forbid, I wouldn’t vote for such people if they can’t show a clear stance.
So they have eyes for their fellow s3xmates.
Upnd has eaten alot from ALN thus the behaviour. They have eaten more than they can chew. How dare they?
Hahahahahaha! But the Zambia I know, that claims to be Christian, that understands that God ordained marriage between man and woman; that is allergic to politicians championing homosexual tendencies; that is uncompromising on this disability; that goes to pray on 18th October.
Damn it anyone seen how weird homosexuals look? I can’t stand a man looking at anothet man lustifully. Craaaazzyy stuff. Grrrrrrrrrrrh!
Since homosexuality is innate and gods exist only in diseased minds, where does anyone get a choice?
While sexuality is innate and immutable, religion is artificial; i.e. NOT REAL. People can and do change their gods and their religions at the drop of a hat.
For anyone to use that hateful monstrosity to attack and assault anyone for the way they are born or whom they love is sick and immoral. There can be no justification for the moronic sickness of religion.
Dr. Jonas Chanda doesn’t have a leg to stand on but he insults humanity on an ongoing basis.
Does he have no shame? None at all, it seems.
LGBTQ+ people are at least moral and decent. His attacks only cause hate, intolerance, and murder to innocent citizens who only seek to live in peace.
Homosexual UPNDEAD aitaya.
Look at these 1d10ts championing an illegal behaviour and conduct in Zambia.
The moment sejani uttered those tribal hogwash we have a pure evil spirit with his demons like this one tryna justify gayism in our land. They sound sponsored in a lifestyle laundering stunt.
It’s better to choose what’s divine like christianity than evil like gay and tribal and thievery.
Can someone explain to me what this fixation on sexual matters is all about? Are we on the verge of appointing religious police who will be raiding bedrooms to find out what people are doing with their organs? Someone please explain this? The Irish PRIME MINISTER is in a same-sex partnership; what does that mean? Ireland is in shambles? Nope! It is a thousand times better than Zambia. So let’s have a more intelligent discourse here mwe. For once in our fcuking lives!
Yes Kalok , this gay issue is getting very very tired.
This is a Doctor fimo fimo regurgitating the same old shallow thinking about HH and his unforgivable crime of being involved in the privatization of state owned enterprises in the 90’s.
A social issue such às this one in societies like those in Zambia’s is a FBD. Trynna trivialize this conversation is not only unrealistic but crazy.
We can not trade our refusal to accept gay practices for anything in this world.
So if the practice is acceptable in other societies, so be it. Those guys who come to our land can bring anything but their beliefs and social convictions.
It’s important that we do not allow someone with weird sexual orientation in Zambia to rule. It’s not only a moral decay issue it’s against our laws UN or not, Irish Prime Minister or not. This is Zambia, the real Africa.
Marriage has been around long before the white man’s Christian religion and will be around long after the garbage is removed.
Sexuality has been around since the beginning of time. The white man’s religion and laws can’t do anything to change nature.
Two hundred years of exploitation and slavery yet still you follow that overt evil.
Ignorance trumps knowledge, again.
Perhaps it is time for those who are Gay but married and serving in the top hierachy of some opposition parties to come out in the open .
Apparerently there are a number of high profile persons in this country who are Gay and are fighting hard for legalising of this vice.
At least ten percent of all people, in all societies, are gay. They have no choice in the matter. Did you choose to be straight?
Religion is the only vice in this discussion.
Go tell all the gay animals that what they are doing is a vice.
See which of them care about the sick, immorality of religion.
Dr.Jonas Chanda has laid his pointa clear BUT WHAT IS HIS CONCLUSION? Write something just to show he can attack UPND or… Constitutionalism? YET THIS IS THE SAME SPOKES PERSON FOR A GROUP OF CB MPs THAT WANT TO IGNORE THEIR PARTY’s CONSTITUTION TO FOREGO A GENERAL CONGRESS AND INSTAL LUNGU AS A SOLE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE!? Ati Ba “Doctor”!!??…
That point generally affects PF but a call to justify Gay rights affects the entire country. So if UPNDEAD has h² as their sole candidate, no problem but if they will be calling for gay rights, we know it’s a national issue.
Talk to your grandma/grandpa about the issue gays, I can rest assure you that you’ll be sending her/him to early late grave. They will advise to vote for anything but that which is in support of such a moral ill.
Is Jack Mwiimbu sane? I always doubt his sanity whenever I see him debate in Parliament
Talking of guy rights when you are one of the poorest countries in the world. A dwindling economy violets more important rights for people such as right to life as there are no jobs and incomes reduce to enable one to survive. Therefore, if you can grow the economy at the rate Mwanawasa did or what Kagame has been doing, you respect a lot of fundamental rights.
Growing the economy is the most important goal of our generation. The Pf has failed beyond doubt thereby violeting many fundamental rights.
It is not in order for any party to advocate for gay rights at this stage of Zambia’s development. With regards to the UPND, Pf is just disparate because of stark failure which has defined the administration.
However, we should not violet important rights of ‘gay people’ should…
should they be arrested. We are supposed to be christians and only God will judge us at the right time.
It is not in ordèr to support such a social ill even when our economy get to the Zimbabwe level.
Such an atrocious act – the call from the dungeons of hell – can do nothing to improve the economic standing of a nation.
The law is clear on homosexuality in Zambia. If you are in the habit of lusting after people of the same s3x as you, stop it now niggaz.
A society can not function well at all if over ten percent of its citizens are not allowed the same freedom as others.
Love is a terrible thing to hate.
Iwe nkusa freedom is reletive. There is nothing like total freedom. LAWs put you in check iwe mambala.
For instance you can’t wire your relative, an animal, in public, without consent, a minor the list can go on and on.
You can say you free to do these things but the Law puts you in check. You’re not free to do gay things in Zambia. It’s against the law.
When equality is the law and the standard, all citizens can help society and the economy to function completely. When some citizens have to live a covert existence, because of whom they love, those citizens can not function to help our economy grow. Fear of arrest or murder by religious creeps puts a damper on their participation, and all Zambia suffers. Open your eyes to reality.
So I didn’t know somebody can be addressed as “Dr” and still be a F00l! Jonas gets the Price here.
I’ll simplify this simple issue for you using HIV as an example. When we say HIV rights, we don’t mean we are happy that HIV infected people have HIV! What we mean is no one should discriminate against any person living with HIV regardless of how they acquired it! For example, a candidate should not be disqualified from employment opportunity on account of their HIV status at pre-employment medical stage. Similarly, when we talk about Gay/LGBT rights, we mean the same – Full Human Rights. Right to employment, right to be respected, right to enjoy full human rights without discrimination! It does not mean we approve of the practice! What PF needs to know is we are all sinners before God and…
THE LAW DIRECTS – Do you even know your rights?
You have other rights. They are known but you lusting for your fellow man and having s3x with them is unacceptable. It’s unlawful in Zambia.
Only lawless freaks like you don’t get it. In Zambia characters convicted of same-sex relations face jail sentences of up to 14 years. This law has been with us since 1911.
Sin is an imaginary disease requiring an imaginary cure. Some religious creep will sell it to you, if you have enough money.
The white man’s religion demands that you follow the white man’s law; regardless of what is right.
and acts of corruption live the 42 Fire Wheelbarrows are not different Gay practices! What we must avoid trying to overcome evil with evil! Trying to enact discriminatory laws is as bad as the practice you are trying to legislate against! What is wrong is to assume the authority of God and appoint yourself as judge on moral matters when yourselves are so corruptly immoral! Judge NOT!
Stick to the topic kid.
You fail to convict people suspected of corruption. Your allegations are wild and evidenceless.
On the flipside, if they prove beyond reasonable doubt that you’re mounting your fellow s3xmate nigga, you will go down.
That’s the nature of justice, you allege, then your allegations are tested through the courts. If allegations fail to prove anything by evidence, you lose the case. Case in point, Chitotela walks free.
Well spoken Hon Jonas Chanda, especially on the Trible UPND and its chief whose royal king size bed is located at the graveyard. But on other points you have given some truths as well as half truths and lies that characterise your party. Some of the privatisation yielded very good results and others not so good. Some companies were privatised because they collapsed under the weight of political interference and political patronage in UNIP era. We see this repeating itself under PF where SOE companies are operated on PF patronage rather than commercial sense. They have boards of directors that sit there receiving sitting allowances and pretending to be directing companies and yet the truth is that these companies are actually directed from some party offices somewhere else. The economy has…
…… The economy has almost collapsed and we can expect a repeat of privatisation programme in order to re-resurrect the dying companies. Of course those who run these companies pretend that all is well or they are simply ignorant or they simply don’t care as long as they drive those large SUVs and send their children to schools in UK. Hon Jonas the weakest part of your article is that it is based on the forum of an untrustworthy party PF. In its current form PF is just as bad as the Trible UPND, surely you should know that by now.
#12.1 Thorn in the Flesh, I am surprised you are that ignorant or are you pretending. The new trick among the corrupt powers is to encourage you to report corruption to investigating agencies but those agencies will not offer critical evidence to the courts of law, hence the so called acquittals. Smart isn’t it? Maybe, but their time is coming.
Time has and will never come my dear.
This life has seen hard core murderers get a long walk to freedom because the witness was a drunkard.
The principle tenets of justice dictates that if you lack evidence which ought to take a beyond any reasonable doubt position at law, wadwa nkuku iwe.
As usual , the PF rats trying to deflect people’s attention away from the economy on its knees by yapping on about gay rights.
No one in UPND is advocating for open gay rights , but as humans gays have the right to a life in their own privercy of their homes………..
As Jack stated , the shamless corrupt rats of PF sing anti gay agenda yet the same corrupt rats are on their knees with open mouths begging and taking aid from openly gay countries……
I am sure there same corrupt PF rats would even prostitute them selves in gay clubs of the West for money then come shouting ati gay slogans to incite their jobless violent thugs.
Doctor Chanda under which constitutional rights do the sex workers who parade our streets are protected?
Are the sex workers in our streets better than the homosexuals being discussed in terms of the risks they pose to our society? In Christianity which one is better Street prostitution or homosexuality?
If they are all evils,let us then start fighting the evil that is already existing on our streets than spend precious time and energy on something we perceive may happen should so and so ascend to power.
Let us sweep the streets of the problem at hand ours is not a secular society.The secular society will respect the rights of the prostitutes to line up the streets without interference and condone homosexuality but the Christian Nation on the other hand will neither condone street…
Is Zambia a democracy or a theocracy?
Since gods don’t exist why should the government kow-tow to that evil religious scam? Are certain members getting kickbacks?
What’s this obsession all about ? This reminds of when a boy or girl reaches puberty in secondary school their preoccupation during biology lessons is reproduction, they have a lot of questions when that topic comes up, because they intend to try out. So am wondering why all this fixation among these gentelemeni.
J.C. we thought you are a Dr who can be talking matters of importance to the nation. are you stupid enough to agree a sexual proposal from your same sex? “BE MATURE, FAIR, LOVELY, SPIRITUAL & CHRIST LIKE. DON’T BE SATISFIED WITH BRIBES ON EXPENSE OF THE DWINDLING NATIONAL ECONOMY. SHAME ON YOU WHOM WE THOUGHT YOU CAN SAVE THE NATION, AND YET ………!
acm wants you to deny reality and equality. It wants you to discriminate against ten percent of all citizens because of whom they love or how they are born. Don’t let that foolish stupidity influence you.
Do the right thing. Stand up for the rights of all and ignore the religious creeps.
Doctor Chanda,
Please discuss the economy! Rate of dollar @ K13.50!! How much is fuel per litre? Loadshedding?
It seems HH has really terrified you! You know whom the country is voting for in 2021! Fear is written all over PF! Discuss the economy!!!
You can’t even talk about the Press Conference becoz, let’s be frank, it was a complete flop! What solutions were provided for our problems?
HH is coming whether you like it or not! Mukose!!
The Chanda crime family at it again, trying to bootlick to be noticed for a position.
If it’s not his brother Sunday Chanda doing the same, it’s his other brother MacPherson Chanda stealing from ZamPost and running it into the ground. Like t1cks, they live on political favors – without which they’re nobodys 🙁
UPND has appointed people into leadership who are bisexual. This is what ALN requires of them
Why does the sexuality of anyone else matter to you? If you have problems with sexuality then it is you who lack morality.
Why does the sexuality of anyone else matter to you? If you have problems with sexuality then it is you who lack morality.
Everyone has an individual sexuality. If you like toad or frogs, it is innate; not a choice.
Bwafufu ubo mambala iwe.
Get to the right body targets.
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