Father Frank Bwalya has defended the patriotic front’s governments appointment of party cadres in the public service.
Father Bwalya has stated that such arguments are trivial comparing to the many challenges that the country is facing.Father Bwalya explains to QFM radio this morning that it is high-time that the Zambian people started advising the government on rather more important issues.
He says that it is clear from the government that there has been a policy shift by the patriotic in coming in deciding to appoint party cadres in decision making positions.
He has however admitted that the patriotic front has made a number of mistakes which needs to be corrected.He added that at the same time, the Michael Sata led government has made tremendous progress in a number of sectors.
He says that the patriotic front has set a policy direction that is far much better than the former ruling, movement for multi party democracy.
QFM
This is the best joke of the day….. this FATHER thinks this is not important. Â The dogs have really come to the country.
It is rather absurd to suggest that good policies will implement themselves regardless of who you have in working in the public sector and implementing them…….it is like suggesting that that just because you have bought a brand new Marco Polo bus it does not matter who drives it, who maintains it, who is the conductor, who does the accounts etc. but that you will still run a successful transportation business that will in fact grow…
Rhetoric and action are worlds apart in the PF govt. What direction in policy is Fr. Bwalya talking about? All I see is reversals, not a good indicator of a confident regime with purpose there!
You’re just a compromised PRIEST to be frank!
Priest Kaponya, Now we can see your true clours. So the red card was in support of PF. What do you expect from kolwes, they re all the same. From today you have lost my support because the red card was meant to support PF not a personal stand. Why dont you ask your brother to give you a job after a job well done?
He back but with irrelevant input,please save the sheep and not the wolves
He saya that we should concentrate on more important national issues!! I thought the quality of people appointed in the public service has a direct effect on how the important national issues will be implemented. So even though PF as a government puts in the best policies for developing Zambia, as long as the quality of the implemeters is of questionable quality, then we are going nowhere. I dont know what the father is trying to imply. Any help here+
You are just ashamed of yourself baba to see failures in the party you supported so much.
Father Bwalya, you are missing the point. President Sata when he came into power promised that he was going to get read of cadres from the civil service and would only allow professionals appointed by the service commissions. But what we didn’t know was that it was a donchi kubeba principle. Say one thing and do another. This is important we need a consistent President. He said he will restore Barotse but he is changing. He has sent alot of cadres and relatives in foreign service. What is the difference with the previous government. He single sourced Apollo to renovate state house. We now know that the changes we wanted are not going to take place. He might even reject the constitutional recommendations since this is being done under the inquiries act.
The political situation in our country now is not different from the way the nazi came to power. The civil society supported the party and the nazi party made sure that all influential organizations in the Germany republic, were controlled by the party cadres, parastatals, civil society, farmers cooperatives and alike. The nazi came to power and we know how they ended. the economy and war brought them down. The question is whether that type of politics used by the nazi would work or not in the 21st century. It worked with unip but the economy brought them down. We are seeing the same precepts being used in the PF manifesto which Zambians did not ready of course even other manifestos. We are yet to see how things will work out.
Its people like this FATHER who really make Africa and Africans really look foolish.Â
Bwalya,i don’t expect an ordained priest to to spearhead a campaign of lies simply because the head although rotten is your uncle.What achievement has PF so far scored which Zambian should be proud of.The only one sided achievement is to appoint Bembas in all posts of influence.Zambians were told clearly that PF will not appoint Political Cadres to the civil service, but what do we see now.PF is peddling in lies from head to the small toe. ROTTEN FISH from HEAD to TAIL thus is PF>
You people should read widely and don’t let your emotions over-shadow your judgements! Do people know that as governments change e.g in the famed USA ie Republica to, about 25000 jobs are lost! To spell it for you , the new government brings in both technocrats and those who supported the party get into power. Don’t condemn and claim to know a lot . What Fr Bwalya is saying that it is “normal” to give some jobs for sympathisers whether you like it or not.
PULIZZI THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BRINGING A PROFESSIONAL TECHNOCRAT AND A PARTY CADRE. DON’T INSULT US. WE KNOW THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION AND THE QUALITY OF PEOPLE THEY BROUGHT IN. LOOK AT THE QUALITY OF PEOPLE THAT THE PRESIDENT HAS BROUGHT IN, IN FACT THE PROPER PROFESSIONAL CIVIL SERVANTS ARE THE ONES THAT ARE BEING FIRED AND FRUSTRATED AND THESE PARTY CADRES DON’T KNOW WHETHER THEY ARE COMING OR GOING BECAUSE THE CIVIL SERVANTS WHO KNOW HAVE LEFT.
I meant to say i.e Republicans to Democrats
eeeee!!!!!!!! father walya!!!!!! what has the PF done so far? shame on you and your unkko sata
Why doesn’t the good Father articulate this so-called good policy direction that the PF has set and how it will only be best implemented by cadres and nobody else but cadres??!!?
In the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost. Amen.
Much as the father is entitled to his freedom of expression and opinion, i feel he has got it all wrong. That is called blind loyalty. PF in the runup to elections promised that cadres would not be appointed in the public service, promised to restore the barotse agreement, promised to reintroduce windfall tax, flush out chinese infestors, etc. All these promises have not been kept, not a single one i have mentioned. Further, the father says the PF has set a policy direction far better than the previous regime. Come on, talk is cheap, can the father pinpoint that policy direction, i would love to be kept well-informed. Instead of generalising, can the father give me the specifics of this policy direction, since he is the only one seeing this light at end of tunnel. Enlighten us all, father.
Does this f… father preach in Church? if he does, i doubt what he tells the sheep. He is such an *****, moron and a scatterbrain. Instead of praying for the nation you a busy preaching the political agenda! Search and weigh yourself. Heavens has weiged you on the scale (like King Nebucchadneza). Imagine when that day comes—what will happen with to those who brough his name to disrepute. Without doubt, you are one of them.
@liberal,
What you are saying about changes in the US with each new President is TRUE but the number is merely 4-500 executive officers,eg CIA/NASA/EPA Director!Even then,appointments are MERITOCRATIC and some offices eg Fed Chairman remain unchanged with several Presidents!!!
European countries on the other hand have permanent & impartial civil services,political masters PLAY NO ROLE whatsoever in the civil service -never mind the Army!!
Whether we follow the American or European model is NOT the issue,the point is Sata made a promise and is now breaking it!!we wouldmy be having this debate if he hadn’t made a fuss about cadres appointment!!
What a father…you are an ***** and just weigh yourself, where do you belong….you heart knows the truth which shall be used to punish you if found wanting by GOD. What do you preach in church. I hope you have been ex-comminicated.
“He added that at the same time, the Michael Sata led government has made tremendous progress in a number of sectors”
WHICH PROGRESS AND IN WHICH SECTORS? THERE IS NOTHING HAPPENING IN THIS COUNTRY.Â
“He says that the patriotic front has set a policy direction that is far much better than the former ruling, movement for multi party democracy”.
WHICH POLICIES? EVERYTHING HAPPENING IN ZAMBIA WAS STARTED BY MMD. Ministers are always on tours, making money inspecting MMD project. They can’t formulate their own policies and programs. Â Â
@ Liberal…Just because something is done in the USA does not make it right for Zambia. Also the US economy is much more sophisticated and larger than ours and the US has a stronger institutional foundation. Hence it is unlikely that if Romney wins the US presidency this year then he will appoint someone with very humble academic credentials as CEO of Freddie Mac or on to the board of The Financing Corporation…Zambia’s current political climate means there are those who are elated and those licking their wounds. Regardless of which camp, simple matters such as this require little debate….It is by exploiting the best available of our human capital that we can stand a chance of reaching the full potential of our great country. That surely is not rocket science!
I stopped listening to this kaponya faza walya a long time ago
This father is so undependable. he like membe must be very disappointed that Sata and pf are making capital blunders since they came into power contrary to how they build Sata and pf as the mesiahs. Sata has failed and only fololish people can come out strongly in supporting him. At the rate he is running government 1 year on the line they may be nothing good to talk about in zambia. It is the like of fr.Bwalya who ganged up with satan to sacrifice human and chicken blood for purpose of having their hero win elections. Bwalya you are no longer credible but a rogue and a disappointment to Zambia.
Stay away from politics father bwalya ninshi kanshi? The church must not mix with politics chapwa
Stay away from politics Father Bwalya ninshi kanshi? The church must not mix with politics chapwa.
Can someone find him a wife, please!
Tremendous progress in which sector? Â What is this njoko talking about?
all i need is for the priest to state
1. the positives done by PF
2. the negatives/mistakes which i suspect to be too numerous to mention.
shocked some people pay attention to nonsense
is he still a father …?or he’s father of the gay now..?
Uyu mupatili has lost direction. he is just looking for a job now. father Bwalya, retire from priesthood and face the real realities of life out here, may be you will start thinking straight because you have it easy at the moment and survive on UMUTULO. You are crap.
Cadres are an impediment to proper and impartial operation of govt, they (cadres) think the appointments are meant to appease them & thus don’t take their work seriously
Am shocked by this Fr Bwalya, why did he not just remain mute? We are headed in the dark with PF, we re directionless with cadres. Turns, twists, u-turns, realignments, what next? And yet, no money in the pockets and no hope for Zambians
This father has just lost it! He should wind his neck in and concentrate on winning souls for the lord. He addresses Zambians as if they are aliens to their own country!! Hallo Fr. Bwalya, we live here and know how we are being ruled by this inept government. Cut out the grovelling crap and shut your mouth. Go back to preach the gospel. Zambians are not simpletons; i feel like puking when i hear such stupid drivel coming from a man of the cloth who should know better. He obviously do not share in the sound pastoral letter of a few weeks ago from the Catholic church which to me was a wake up call to the PF Government. This is a wishy – washy rebel without a cause who is becoming an embarrassment to the church.
WHO IS A CADRE?
DOES CADRES HAVE QUALIFICATIONS? please answer my two questions above then i will proceed
Its the red card champaign. You will minister of theology, work hard.
Ruphiah and his cohorts were right we are in for a rough ride.Honestly this is the grovel he can spill the under 5 must be laughing all the way to the bank.
The trouble is Fr. Bwalya thinks he is a “religious revolutionary” and intellectual, when we know that he is just a cheap, bigoted, directionless and frustrated priest who could not settle in pastrol work in the church and looking to find himself in the politics. The church would do well to kick him out so he can freely practice activism. (which is doubtful if he will survive without the tag of belonging to the church). Its about time the “wolf in sheep’s skin” was debunked! He hit the scene with the crusade to unsit Bwezani. When that happened he has struggled to find a cause to chart. No depth at all in this priest if this is a sample of original thought on national issues.
So unfortunate for a man of his name to to subject himself to No logic Governance in th e Country.Each Govt is Elected based on it promises made.And PF did just that.And we are waiting.
Policy direction? Your president promised to give 30 bags of fertiliser to farmers which would have been a policy direction change. Has he done that? Just go and strangle chickens iwe ka mudala. Ala!
Ba Sata please give the priest a job. He will soon put you to shame because he seems to be desperate. You Mr Sata stated it very clearly that you will remove the cadres but this priest says you are not doing what you promise. Please give him a job! By the way, is Fr Walya still on Sabatical?
One has to struggle to appreciate the irony that it was MMD & RB foolishness that let these headless fools in. This is the legacy…
Shame, and I thought this man was sensible. Turns out he was just looking for a job. He said: “…the patriotic front has set a policy direction that is far much better than the former ruling, movement for multi party democracy.” Really? So far there is no direction and this lack of direction was one of many reasons that Zed got a bad rating recently. Did you know that MMD left over US$3bn in the coffers? Just money sitting in the bank, excluding other projects, invests and FDIs that we’ll continue to see bear fruit for a long time to come.
Better we count our blessings and look forward, not chasing after a past that we cannot change.
Just go strangle another chicken for your daily blood sacrifices you looser! How very dare you think you can find another soap box to mislead your flock on! People are still reeling in shock as to how they were hypnotised by your satanic rituals at rallies and go to the ballot to sign their lives away, and you have the audacity to rub it in…kwena walipama mudala. Anyhow you just continue soliciting for a job you crazy fallen angel and spare us the BS.
#13 you are 100% correct. the negative being that if gov runs everything in the country shi.t happens. this gov is only close to UNIP. they make people believe that you will live well if we the central gov keep everything for you. so zamtel is your even though no you will never get better service from them. they say it worse to have well employed few and provide better service to all for and the thing is owned by foreigners.  60% of housing market in SA is owned foriegners zambian included. it has made that country what it is
All I remember is PF severely criticizing MMD for appointing party cadres and promising it would never do the same.
Now this?
Talk talk talk. Can we see some real development please?
#41 Sounds like you feel pain every time you try to think. Can’t you understand that your “good” comment is same as your comment? The only difference is that he calls country Zambia as Zambia, and you call it Zed.
i guess the tremendous progress father bwalya is seeing are the daily reshuffles we now have. people are being moved from one position to another so fast. when are they going to settle down and start working?
President Sata please give this party cadre a job, he is making an application and reminding you that he supported you when you were in opposition so really sir you can appoint the poor father take him out of his misery.
Father Bwalya has stated that such arguments are trivial comparing to the many challenges that the country is facing. I think the cadre mentality is slowly setting in him. Does he mean the DCs are not important or they are dummies? This is PF mentality of saying anyone can be in a high position without education as long as he has people at heart. The heart will not bring development.
no mo headache!
no more headache ! I had enough of it of mmd.
@ MATURE you are conspicuously missing. Any comment please? Especially to some of the questions posed above. As for me- I hate people who miss religion with politics. I have always hought that if you are a priest, pastor, reverand etc stay clear of politics because you are the one (man/woman of cloth) who should bring warring parties together.
WWhere did you crawl from you?Go back to your hole
PF supporters on Lusaka times please explain in the most basic of English words the nonsense that the man of the cloth has just stated. Really are you going to employ a non knowledge having person to the ministry of defense? Or foreign affairs? What he has stated is equivalent to letting your child not do their home work or study during the week because the important part are only tests and what the teacher imparts only.
@ engineer in Australia on this on I fully agree with you, this is a kinship thing not anything to do with caring for our people and nation.
Blacks are animals
Blacks especially Africans and in particular Zambians are frogs
And what are you,a white pig..stupid *****,may your white ass rot in hell
That is the reason God said we should marry. Having the responsibility of loving a wife, listening to her nag; watching her make you wiser cause she is a meticulous planner helps a man. A woman and family relieve stress, but no! poor catholic priests are syndicated and subdugated to forced celibacy thus the problems the catholic church is having today in the world. Employ technocrats in civil societies and Zambia shall thrieve.
@ black people bad mana then you are a tadpole and fulunyemba because you are changing color. Hypocrisy you are spewing. If a few are evil and bad and hold down a people! The ones that perpetuate the suppression and the ones that are on a high horse due to inadequacies in their brains and physiological make up knowing you are a dude tend to spew hate and fear. Leave us be as Golden people and keep on moving hater. I renounce your words and my initial ones in Jesus’s name.
Father  Bwalya  legalise  Gay  Marriage in Zambia please…talk to Sata
Father  Bwalya  legalise  Gay  Marriage in Zambia please…talk to Sata please please
Just love me the way i am ,,,i was born this way….if you are straight..you still my brother or sister or friend,,,,love you all just accept me
silly father
@ Mwanawakwitu, I know you are black so you are a failure. Blacks have failed to innovate useful items or equipment so technology wise you are inferior, running farms or business you (blacks) are absolute failures e.g. Zimbabwe and your Mines in Zambia before you sold them to us & the Chinese
Someone please give this man a book by Max Weber.
It is crystal clear that Fr. Frank Bwalya is hiding behind the smoke-screen of the concept of supporting the PF cadres. The truth of the matter is that Bwalya is a die-hard tribalist happy to see Bemba supremacy in key national institutions. Statistics will reveal that Bwalya is happy to ensure that crooks of all hues have ganged-up under the banner of PF to enjoy the loot of national resources as long as the sun shines.
What’s wrong with this faza???? Ati “the Michael Sata led government has made tremendous progress in a number of sectors”. Which sectors? Maybe in appointing your tribesmen and kinsmen into positions of authority. Definitely that would be serious progress in your family. Your relative has lamentably failed. He won the presidency by false pretences. Reality has dawned on him and with a ka-humble educational background the man is overwhelmed.
Zitu mafias @ play! Takalabwa mweba kalaba usosa. Talk the talk and walk the walk.
Blessed Father you miss the point. Is appointing a chap like rtd Sgt Major Mwila a semi illiterate from ZNS as Senior Private Secretary to the VP good for Zed or is he there to spy on scott
These party cadres are the ones who will reduce PF as aparty, especially in missions abroad. Banda appointed many of them hence his administration was full of corruption. Mwanawasa was so clever, I think he learnt something from Chiluba’s administration thats why he resigned, as for Sata he saw good in that administration no wonder he pushed for it’s third term for us to continue suffering. Levy even in Embassies never sent cadres in certain positions, and even those like Protocal where it was applicable the people were educated and deserved the posts. The fact is these cadres are corrupt and when they get home they are not easy to follow up if they have stolen money, some even do not surrender their red passports and abuse them a lot, hence our reputation as a nation has gone down.
#Another problem is that, government is full of procedures and policies, hence it can take 2 to 3 years for a cadre who is put in that place to learn and be equiped with them to do the right thing in an office, therefore during this process of learning there are a lot of blunders and even misapproprietion of funds, and this leads to tanishing the image of the ruling party. It is yes good to give cadres jobs, but know which ones they can manage, as they are the ones who can bring you down at the end of the day, especially in missions abroad where when they get home they are not easy to trace. Zambians this is our country, what is obtaining is so pathetic to say the least, I really miss Levy a man of integrit in terms of decision making.
Please Bloggers, you should feel for the father. He supported MCS with all his goons now, how can he critisize; he just has to be seen to be still supporting sata. No escape route for the Father
Cadres are there for money and can change camps depending on where it is warm, but civil servants will always be there regardless of who is in government. We had no president for 3 months when Levy died, therefore, during this transition period civil servants managed to run the country smoothly, everything in the country was operating normal. This is the reason why civil servants in every nation are so important than cadres who can change camps depending on the wind. Countries in Africa such as Mozambique, Tanzania, south Africa etc have the best civil service and have reduced costs in paying gratuity to cadres because their civil service is professional. Our ministry of foreign Affairs attracts huge budgets due to paying gratuity to cadres returning from missions abroad.
This country is now headed for dooms day at a very fast pace. This Father is mad, PF has not even released a policy document & he is already claim that PF has good policies!! Appointing cadres into civil service is wrong and should never be done.
Any sensible person will not give a dime about what this lunar will say seeing that the glint of madness is his eye is visible even to himself when he enjoys brief moments of sanity.
Can somebody closer to this irrational being find out what beer has made him this drunk to utter all these nonse on the public media. Where are the policies he is refering to, where is work he is refering to? is dividing the country the work he is talking about, watch what happens tomorrow… No one owns Zambia
In zambia if there is a word thats misunderstood is cadre.it simply means a small group of people who are specially chosen and trained for a particular purpose.alternatively what applies to political parties is a member of a political party.political parties are joined by people from all walks of life and some who join are already professionals who have saved the country in different capacities and have delivered.it is folly for anyone to think that the PF is the only party that is deprieved of professionals that is not logical for a party that has attracted masses.most of the pipo who are speaking with anger on appointment are those who didnt even support sata when the same cadres were been insulted with him.lets be fair guys.job seekers who want to reap where they didnt sow.why attack
@Kapale… dude, the cader critisism came from MCS. n in english there r terms in pop culture which evolve in meaning due to use n in dis case da word cader is being used in da same misunderstood context dat ba Sata used it. u r nt objective my friend, u blamed MMD for luck of employement n now u blame da pipo jst coz sata is in power? u critisize pipo for complaining after 5 months while sata n private media gave da previous leaders no rest frm day 1. i kno u think u r smart bt dude… get over ur self, u r jst like father Bwalya who wil support MCS @ all cost… no objective. am regret havin voted for MCS.
The nation is in unnecessary anger because pipo have been lazying around and there is no serious culture of hardworking in zambia.what miracle do u expect micheal and his team to perform in 5months.for once be objective even when you mean to criticize lets be logical.zambia is like this coz actually most of you who mistakenly think are intellectuals are just a bunch of functional illiterates.you have logs in your eyes and dont qualify to point at the specks in eyes of the PF members from different walks of life and quick to call the cadres without understanding the word.even when you bring in max weber theories who told u that PF members have no understanding of public administration?we are making us cheap in the eyes of the international community.
“cadre, sorrt… mispel”…
“cadre”, sorry, mispel”…