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Tourism minister Catherine Namugala inspects stacks of confiscated ivory at Zambia Wildlife Authority (ZAWA) ofices in Chilanga
Tourism minister Catherine Namugala inspects stacks of confiscated ivory at Zambia Wildlife Authority (ZAWA) ofices

Government has challenged Zambians living in the Diaspora to take advantage of investment opportunities back home and contribute to the development of the country.

Tourism, Environment and Natural Resources (TENR) Minister, Catherine Namugala said that in the face of the current global economic crunch, investment in tourism presents immense opportunities for addressing the economic melt-down and has asked Zambians working and living abroad to consider investing in the sector.

The Minister said this in statement issued to ZANIS in Lusaka yesterday, by Ministry of Tourism, Environment and Natural Resources, Public Relations Officer, Bwalya Nondo.

Ms. Namugala said investment in the tourism industry was not the preserve of foreigners alone adding that Zambians should take interest in the sector.

She added that the sector has potential to contribute to the growth of the economy which can further reduce the country’s  dependence on mining that is the mainstay of the economy.

The Minister has also  urged Zambians’ living abroad to create business alliances to invest in the tourism ventures in order to contribute to the economic development of the country.

The Minister also pointed out that government under the leadership of President Rupiah  Banda was working hard to ensure that an appropriate environment with attractive incentives was created for the tourism industry .

Ms. Namugala also reiterated that efforts where under way to opening up the Northern Circuit through infrastructure development as a catalyst for stimulating tourism growth in the region.

She added that this was an example of how government was  creating an enabling environment to attract tourists and investors in the country.

ZANIS

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318 COMMENTS

  3. I prfer saving money from UK and waiting for the kwacha to be weak before doing anything with my pounds. Is that wrong?

  5. Bloggers outside

    This is more for you than for us at home. what is your input on this issue? Sensible comments only, please? 😕

  7. We all have passion for our country,we all want to invest in our country.The problem is with you the goverment,you discourage us with your polices.

  9. ms minister..get married to one of the bloggers…maybe BA MAUREEN then we can consider investing….
    why are u single?Get Matworld-Nice gey for free.. :x:x:x

  10. # 4, Zambians for real Zambians – who are able to stand proud and strong even if the worst goes to the worst. As for me Zambian forever.

  11. # 3, 4

    Investment opportunites in Zambia are immense.From real estate,tourism,mining,trading, the list is endless. People are making good money down here. Make an effort to visit Zed and see for yourself.

    Remember, home is home. No wonder you’re now posting on LT.

  12. A man suspected to be a Zambia native with a penchant for making up details of his life, Abraham Npaka is now wanted in the slaying of his girlfriend, North Miami Beach police say Abraham Npaka of Zambia, police say, claims many embellished or bogus roles: author, doctor, secret agent. One more is for real: murder suspect.North Miami Beach Police on Wednesday implored citizens to help find Npaka, 44, who is accused of stabbing his girlfriend to death last week.Coty Paul, 43, an unemployed security guard and mother of two, was killed the night of Dec. 26 in an apartment on the 2100 block of Northeast 167th Street.”We need our entire community to help us in finding this cold-blooded murderer

  13. May I challenge the minister to outline instruments that provide advantages for Zambians to invest in Zambia. Instead the govt has provided for the foreign investors in terms of environment. I concur with Mr. Sata when he says that parliamentalians have done little to foster development in the country. Come on MPs do a lot for mother Zambia. Do not use the institution to enrich yourselves.

  15. contd.”We need our entire community to help us in finding this cold-blooded murderer,” said North Miami Beach Chief Rafael P. Hernandez Jr.Hernandez spoke Wednesday at a news conference, surrounded by Paul’s family. She is survived by 14-year-old daughter Tatiana Paul and 4-year-old son Otniel Sanon.”This is really painful. I don’t sleep at night. I get 15 minutes of sleep and I’m awake,” Tatiana said.An arrest warrant for Npaka has been issued for second-degree murder.Coty Paul and Npaka had been dating about one year. Both worked as guards for a security firm. He was her supervisor.With a thick African accent and cuts on his forehead that were supposedly tribal marks, Npaka had charm –

  16. This is not the right time to think of investing in tourism because very few people will be able to spend money on luxuries. To start with Zambia will be the last destination tourists will think of because of the high cost of everything in the country. Secondly there are no incentives that are given to the Zambians who want to invest in their own country while foreigners are offered low or no taxes for a certain period. Actually most of the places are already taken by foreigners.So what Namugala is doing is politicking.South Africans reaped where they did not sow and closed the shops in Zambia when they were about to start paying tax.

  17. contd , Npaka had charm — and exotic allure.In a publishing house bio, Npaka claims to have obtained a bachelor’s degree in French at the University of Paris before pursuing a master’s in England. He also said he was pursuing a doctorate in the United States.Police say Npaka had actually come to Florida about five years ago on a student visa to study at Miami Dade College.Depending on who was listening, he claimed to speak three languages. ”I’ve had women say he claimed to speak nine languages,” said Detective Tracy Lystad.Npaka told some he was a doctor. He told others he had worked for the FBI.
    ”We don’t know what is true and what is not,” said Maj. Kathy Katerman.Npaka could, at le

  19. contd”We don’t know what is true and what is not,” said Maj. Kathy Katerman.Npaka could, at least, point to at least one concrete fact. He authored a book called The Nigerian 419 Scams, A Disgrace to Western Civilization (Beyond Scams and Greed), available in paperback for $19.99 on Amazon.com.The book was no best-seller — it is marketed by self-publishing company Xlibris, which lets small-time authors pay to put out their literature.In his bio published on the company’s website, Npaka uses a second name, Ndapuka Shilongo. He says he was spurred to write the book after losing a ”large sum of money” in the notorious Internet swindle.”This book is the bible of 419 criminals,” he writes,

  21. contd” he writes, while blaming the Roman Catholic Church and pinning African corruption on “the active role of the Western Democracies with their diabolical, deceptive, intentionally ill-conceived policies of the International Monetary Funds.”Detectives say Npaka was himself a huckster.He spun his stories to various girlfriends. But he had lost his security guard job. And because of a cocky attitude, Npaka lost a position about three weeks ago as a concierge at a Brickell Key condo building.Said Chief Hernandez: “He is a fraud.”All that culminated, police say, on Dec. 10 when Npaka walked into Aventura’s Colonial Bank. He handed a teller a note demanding $3,500 or he would use a grenad

  22. Tax tax tax that’s what sucks!
    These politicians give foreigners who pose as investors more rights including less tax incentives than us native Zambians.
    Someone needs to restructure the corrupt customs services before we go anywhere.These so called customs officers still have a colonial mentality.

  24. contdHe handed a teller a note demanding $3,500 or he would use a grenade, according to a police report. After he escaped, an employee wrote down the tag number of his SUV. Npaka was later arrested and admitted he “needed the money and wired it to South Africa.”He was charged with armed robbery but was later bonded out — by Paul.On Christmas, Npaka ate dinner with Paul and her children. But the next day, Npaka attacked Paul while they were in the apartment of her best friend.
    The friend called police. Npaka escaped. Paul’s daughter, summoned from their downstairs apartment, applied pressure to her mother’s stab wounds until paramedics arrived.Paul died at the hospital.Npaka drives a gray

  25. What else is there for a tourist to see in Zambia other than the Vic falls and a few animals?

    Until Bob went mad, people prefered going to Zim than Zambia.

    The government needs to improve the infrastructure first. Big ask but it can be done.

  26. ZAMBIANS IN DIASPORA ARE SO SO MUCH ANTI ZAMBIA…COZ MAY BE THATS WHY THEY LEFT IN THE FISRT CASE….. UNLIKE JAMAICANS/NIGERIANS/ZIMBABWEANS WHO ARE SO MUCH LINKED TO THEIR COUNTRIES AND FROM ABROAD ARE INVESTING IN PROPERTY/BUSINESSES IN THERE COUNTRIES …. VERY FEW ZAMBIANS ABROAD OWN PROPERTY IN ZAMBIA….. BUT BELIEVE ME EVERY SECOND ZIMBABWEAN WORKING AS A MAID IN THE UK HAS A ‘KABULONGA’ TYPE OF A HOUSE IS HARARE… MY CRY IS FOR THE DIASPORA TO WAKE UP AND STRENTHEN THEIR LINKS BACK HOME…..:((

  27. Npaka drives a gray 2002 Mazda Tribute with the Florida tag 233IJA. He is considered armed and dangerous, police say.Anyone with information can call North Miami Beach police at 305-948-2940 or Miami-Dade Crime Stoppers at 305-471-8477.[South Miami Herald]
    azaonline.org

  28. Individually, a lot of people in diaspora cannot make any meaningful investment unless they’re organized in groups. Govt could help by creating investment packs deliberatly targeting such people. Since they’re not home, they need credible structures on the ground that’d assure them of proper management of their investment.

  29. Pa Zed one can only invest in property because with that your investments are safe, unless you have got huge amounts of money to take risks with you can then invest in something else

  30. #25

    Most Zimbabweans have become British baba. Jamaicans never go back. Go to the States you will see.

    Nigerians marry Filipina girls and a few desperate white British girls.

    Zambians are just frustrated by their government but will stick to their wives and still get back to visit their country. :d:d:d:d

  31. Concerned Zambia

    You have not answered my question. What does this story of yours have to do with you investing in Zambia? What is your point?

  32. This Npaka must be a Nigerian. Zambians don’t have deep tribal marks on their foreheads. Could be one of those who bribed someone at passport office & got a Zambian PP.

  33. #25 Comment on the Story

    Iam sorry I dont agree with you my dear.Not all the pipo in diaspora are Anti Zambia,infact no one is anti-Zambia we are anti-the things that are done in Zambia by our top leaders.To tell you the truth If God blesses me with enough money my heart desire is to invest in my beloved country.Now the problem is Govt will deny me the opportunity to enjoy the prevaledges that am entitled to as an indiginius Zambian.They would rather give those prevaledges to fake Investors like Chiness,Somalian,and Ba Masai.Tell me Did Ba Masai signed any document to start their herbal business pa Zed? But when I come to Invest in my country Oooh!! (contd)

  35. we need more platforms to understand the way things work. When i take a trip home I have to familiarise myself with whats going on, who to talk to. So many times you go to a bank and you’re turned down a loan because they believe there is nothing to tie you down, i went to stanchart and i was asked for a credit report from here, mind you this was on a two week break, why would i have a credit report to hand? If i was informed beforehand i would know how to go about it! Also once you are home and you start thinking strategically about the way forward the process is sooo long! I mean to get a reg or a passport the legal way is a JOKE! You need one to plan your business

  37. We are better- having our own people investing in Zambia..then waiting for fireingners…dont you think so bloggers

  38. Matworld I agree with you! I love Zambia and would do anything to leave this place, but I need to know that when I land I have a plan I can feed my family and help those that need to be helped! I don’t think any of us on this blog are anti-zambia, we log on to be informed and have a platform to voice on issues at hand! 🙂

  39. You people in Diaspora, if you have huge sums of money, invest in property back home, I did the same when i was in Britain. I bought a 3 bedroomed house in a good a residential area, put it on rent and it gave birth to another 3 bedroomed house self contained, in Roma. It pays! No complaints!

  41. It will take me much time to register a company.Paying Tax it will be taputapu while others are not paying.When they are told to pay,they even have the gutts to sue the Govt,as if that’s not enough they even cut jobs for poor Zambians.My dear we personally I love my country so much,its just that Iam really disapointed with poor governance,especially the Authority the our Govt have gived foreign investors,they even Have gutts to kill Zambian for expressing their freedom sure? 8->8->

  43. Well! Concerned citizen, that Npaka guy is no Zambian at all. Just that he might have passed through Zed and corruptly obtained a Zambian passport or whatever docs he used to enter the US. That is just a lesson to Zambian officials to be careful and screen whoever they give travel docs, cuz the end result is what we now see or hear. Tanishing the image of our peaceful, beloved even though poor country. That crook is not the only Zedian ebing wanted by authoriries in the US, I know a couple of other Zeds that are on the wanted list are leaving among us.

  44. Sweet Thang

    Hi. How are you? Nice to see you.

    Matworld

    Have you been away that long? Who tells you it would take long to register a company? I suggest you ask first. Just come and invest home,Period! Some of your fears are actually unfounded, you know?
    Dont fear the unknown. Uyopa mu chinese? Am disapointed mwana.

  45. # 11 – bluehead i agree with you 100%. you need to work hard to enjoy a good lifestyle in Zambia. yes, back home we invest in property, one, two or three you are done. the only i have for instance is water, electricity (monthly), land rates (yearly) and then am at peace through out the year with my family having a good relaxed lifestyke. i know one family who would really love to return but the reason for staying away is not knowing where to start from. obviously if you are aPhiri anabwela, it wont be advisable to return.

  46. IMWEE AM A ZAMBIAN & PROFESSIONAL PROPERTY PERSON …I WORKED IN ZIMBABWE FOR A GOOD NUMBER OF YEARS BEFORE MOVING BACK TO ZAMBIA..I KNOW THE DIFFERENCES… I CAN ALMOST SAY I KNOW WHAT I SAID IN #25… EVEN IF ZIMBOS HAVE BRITISH CITIZENSHIPS THEY STILL BUILD HOUSES BACK HOME…. IN THE FIVE YEARS BACK IN ZAMBIA I HAVE ONLY WORKED WITH TWO ZAMBIAN ABROAD……WHICH IS LIKE A MINUTE FRACTION ON THE ZIMBOS ABROAD I WORKED WITH IN HARARE….DONT BLAME THE GOVT WHO SAID ZIMBABWE HAS NO GOVT…. IF YOU ARE IN DIASPORA AND HAVE NO MEANGINGFUL INVESTMENT BACK HOME SHAME ON YOU , #32 WHAT PRIVALEGES DO YOU WANT FROM THE GOVT. MAY YOU DON’T HAVE INFORMATION ENOUGH AND ARE ACTING ON HEARSAY!

  47. Well! Concerned citizen, that Npaka guy is no Zambian at all. Just that he might have passed through Zed and corruptly obtained a Zambian passport or whatever docs he used to enter the US. That is just a lesson to Zambian officials to be careful and screen whoever they give travel docs, cuz the end result is what we now see or hear. Tanishing the image of our peaceful, beloved even though poor country. That crook is not the only purported Zedian being wanted by authorities in the US, I know a couple of others that are on the wanted list in the US but are leaving among us.

  51. I believe that the overwhelming majority of Zambians in the diaspora have their heart in Zambia and would love for its economy to grow. Government needs to actively create an enabling enviroment (forgive the cliche) for its citizens abroad e.g. create a specfic desk at the Zambia Development Agency to fast track licence applications, registrations etc for Zambians in the diaspora.

  52. Some of the comments coming from Zed’s in diaspora make sad reading. You cant, for heavens sake be proud of living in a foreign country as if you have no home!
    Fact. That is not your home!
    Fact. You will always be looked at differently!
    Fact. Conditions in some of those countries are horrid!
    Fact. Some of you are worse off than you were here!
    Fact. Some of you are actually(saddest part) living a lie!

    I dare anyone to dispute these facts….sensibly

  54. £ 25! As Matworld £ 32 has defended us, Zedians in diapora, I don’t any normal Zambian can hate Zambia. Home is home, and that is the fact. The best thing, as you have done, is to conscientise all our nationals to invest back home. We love Zambia, and we cannot distance ourselves from our mother country. Viva Zambia.

  55. I think property is a good investmenet for you guys leaving in the diaspora. You could actually buy a commercial piece of land and build a bunch of poshy shops, like a mini-mall or something for renting or maybe just a nice crib in a nice residential area. It will make a difference. You could then turn it into a company guest house or something.

  57. Zambians abroad dont just cry about poor government policy or management whatever you call it. Zambians at home are policy makers and implement them in their on homes. most educated, in employment, are doing well. we have simply spelt our lifestyles and we are comfortable. land is plenty here all you need to use your $ power – kwasila. its note a joke, i have two pieces of land at meanwood estates and vorna valley, am paying for them in instalments. each piece of land costed me US$1,500. whats that figure and being paid for in instalments? mwalashala no mwenso wenu.

  58. Bloggers

    Thumbs up to Baby C wherever she is. Alibaletanya abaiche aba balemeka Nomba. She was friendly and cool. Unlike these women we have now who know nothing but insults.Where is baby c, any idea bloggers. Anyone with information? An appreciation will be shown. Help me find this lady. She was the darling and Apple of LT. Manje pambwela chabe benangu ! Boring! baby C is the main reason why i stopped blogging :((

  61. Ba Moze

    Iam coming in June what can I bring for you my dear? Oh! I have never seen a wonderful person like you my dear.Now promise me that you wont tell Zoe Please!! By the way where is she today? I cant see my Lusaka as well.Ba Moze please be cool mudala wanga. :-j:-j:-j

  65. I have been saving for the last year with the view to sending some money back home to invest in a property, but not I have to change all of my family’s blasted passports AGAIN, so I have had to put my plans on hold! :((

  66. Goodmorning bloggers. These are the stories I like because they affect us & our future plans.
    Let me just read on before I comment…fact is, some of us are already working out plans to invest back home. We are just waiting for the right time to launch our plans, I think right now the situation is not that stable.

  68. The fight has now progressed between the real Baby C and the counterfeit Baby C to the real Pinkly versus fake Pinkly.

  69. Lt may i suggest something please provide every blogger here with special codes the flags are not enough…i have a feeling there are poisonous snakes who only want to turnish the image of others here…

  70. Imwe guys,is the woman on picture Namugala?
    Thats the woman who has been grabbing other womens men!
    looking at her skin,i think she must have started taking Reverse Trascriptase Enzyme stuff.
    But i hear also that B4 she became otherwise,any man who went close to her would difinately get attracted by very short fast electrostatic interactions that resulted in the mans cells of the encephalon,cardiac and THE BIG MAN IN THE TROUSER excited.
    The end result is to spend unnecessary for her.

  71. Yes, Ba Chale, what you need is courage to invest in your mother country, because if you go on waiting for the right situation to create itself, this will never happen; you are the one to create it. Actually, for courageous people, any time is the right time!!!

  73. Ba Moze, Pinkly, Rashid Jone, Sony, Nine Chale, Matworld, the REAL baby C…all of you bloggers.. Happy New Year to you all! Ba Moze you know that Matworld is innocent, he’s just being friendly nothing sinister! I hope you guys had a good xmas!Ba Pinkly are you ok! Don’t be mad girl, Baby C will show up, give her a chance, she’ll come back!

  74. Sweet Thang

    Hi. we have a loose deranged fake Pinkly on the net!! Be careful. thats why its wrong to keep on changing names anyhow. we know each other here. fake people should not worry you.

    LT

    I saw that!! you are really getting on my nerves….if that is your intention. I advise you not to lead me into temptation ka? [-x

  75. Namugala is a lier.She has a language of crooks or prostitutes.
    Imwe bloggers,dont be cheated .Who doesnt know how difficult it is to just get a Tourism Licence in Zed?
    If you start fighting for it tonday as a guinine Zedian,it will take you your entire life b4 it can come out.
    Foreigners,yes ,very fast.
    I really feel very sad that i can cut someones throat right now.
    Some zedians have money but can not be given chance by these crooks and prostitutes.
    God help us!

  76. Yes I think that the minister’s call is a good one.
    We all own Zambia and we all need to make every effort to build and develop it.
    There is no one who has more ownership to the nation than any other Zambian.
    We all have a responsibility to develop this nation. Now we also need to understand that every effort put in to develop this nation yields rewards not only to the nation but also to the individual who makes the effort.
    Bill Gates for example has contributed greately not only to the US economy but to the world, but in turn his efforts have benefited him greatly.
    Bill Gates siad,
    “If you are born poor it is not your mistake, but if you die poor it is your mistake”.

  79. There is an immense amount in zambia, i took a trip to Luapula during the Luapula promo and was amazed at the beauty of the lake, but i was saddened that there weren’t any decent lodges in the area! I was even more shocked at Dan Pules’ attempt right in the heart of it all was dilapilated and abandoned. Many ppl complained that it was difficult to market that particular area because it was hard to travel there, plus no planes flew that way, why not develop a mini airport and take it from there?

  80. Sorry guys chizungu chani vuta ku seni! Danny Pule has a lodge and its messed up! Zambia is beautiful we should think outside the box and invest, but lets invest as a group. Nine Chale i agree that the situation isn’t stable and we need to observe but not for too long!

  81. Acceptance, Trust and Responsibility go together.
    Accept our plea of dual citizenship
    Trust us that our vote is genuine, this will confirm that I can
    responsibly invest back ‘HOME’
    Right now these three vital aspects are missing. Hope the NCC will hear our plea.
    Mama Minister we love Zambeziland more than you imagine but we feel unaccepted and untrusted.

  82. #59 I told you to hold your head baby,never mind about people,trust me the devil is using this platform to create hate,remember God is love and he loves you,pray always for the the devil is a restless creature wondering on this blog,inflicting hate,insults,boasting and all manner of evil.Ask your self this question if jesus was here on earth would he blog and say things as we do?

  83. Believe me or not guys in the so-called diaspora have little or no investment potential in Zambia. For starters, they pay so much taxes out there thatthey are unable to make viable investment pa Zed. Most of them dont even have houses in zed because they have been too carried away with their cosmetic lives to even think about a small slab of some sort. But there are some who have invested in real estate in zed but not so much that can affect the figures at Central Statistical Office

  84. #72. Sweet thang. Baby C is not coming back, she relocated to Malawi and Pinkly even saw her off at the airpot.

    coming to the issue at hand, you know we cant do without your dollars and pounds you guys ….. we need it RB or no RB.

  86. #70 Thank you for those encouraging words. However, my instinct still tells me to wait a while. The other thing is that when I start something this time, I want to spend most of my time there to monitor the progress but the nature of my current job plus family ties don’t permit this yet. I tried out something before but it fell right through because I was not personally there and probably entrusted it to the wrong people.
    It’s a long story but in short, they say once bitten, twice shy. This time I have vowed to do everything 100% right or forget the whole thing. I don’t give up easily, for where there is life there will always be hope.

  87. #27 Nkosi & #50 Area Boy, I second you. Our govt should ACTIVELY (not politicking)encourage the diaspora to invest; a modern up-to-date website would go a long way in producing the desired results for both parties. Readily available information on investment is vital if the govt/investors are to achieve their goals. RED TAPE is our main problem; the govt behaves like a father/mother who mistreats their own child(ren) at the expense of a stranger’s child(ren). The result is frustrated countrywo/men.
    Ba moze at #51 you are absolutely spot on. If anyone disputes that, then I think they are not being truthful to themselves.

  88. #47 ba Mozei was in an evaluation meeting.Manje u hav really cracked me.Uzanilowesa pa LT,see wat Pinkly is saying?Dnt knw wat has happend 2my frnd 2day

  91. Ipersonating someone on LT is tantamont to using someone else’s toothbrush/pick Create your own persona and people will identify you by it and you will gain more respect fron LT Bloggers !

  92. I would really love to invest back home in Zambia but the problem is that the government seems to be dragging its feet on the matter of duo citizenship. Once that is clear I will definitly invest. :d

  94. I had argument with her baby c ,now pinkly i suspect on one hot issue and she was supported by every blogger and in the end she won! hence the grudge.

  96. # 85 – Nine Chale, i strongly understand you. Someone tried to invest in Zambia by remote control and each time he sent money his brother-in-law kept sending pictures of the progress that was being made on the house. when the man visited, he found the house at slab level, yet pics showed the house was almost finished. zimandola ukwingila pachani, imagine. I dont know how you can do it but its important to invest back home. time comes when you just want to return and thats the time when people really feel the pinch. **==

  97. **==**==**==

    dont just blame the zedian gvt for your failure to invest in your country!! you havent got enough cash to start even kantemba!! to be in diaspora is not a guarante that you are eligible to be one of the investors..think twice pipo…….

  100. Peace

    How on earth can dual citizenship be an issue where investing in your HOME COUNTRY is concerned? You have completely lost me there. You should be looking at the economic benefits for you and your country, and not dual citizenship. Imwe banthu, this is your country. Do you want to be reminded all the time? Am shocked!!

  103. Ba Moze and ChaloChesu. Thanks its quite true anyway. Can anyone account for the investment that Clive Chirwa for example has brought to Zambia ? Nothing……I am going for lunch..catch you later

  104. Am back.

    Ba Moze,i think we can manage these guyz investments whilst they are stil out and we can really make aka good return on thier capital,so Matworld and the rest jst send those monies to us they will b in safe hands.

  105. Ba Moze I think what Peace and Matworld are saying is at present if you’re zambian on paper it makes it hard to start investing, knowing that you are leaving behind something that you’ve worked hard for; in short there are not guarantees! If all else fails in zambia you can go back to what you used to do. Also when you wave around a foreign passport like it or not the truth is zambian officials aren’t going to take you seriously! We are patriots to a T. With dual citizenship there will be a hope for more flexibility.

  107. #51 Ba Moze mwakamba vachendi. Let me speak on my behalf.Living abroad is sometimes disheartening especially if you are being sidelined by these Bazungus in certain projects of interest.However, the returns are good especially when you get their currency and put it in kwacha. People in the diapora stand a better chance of investing in Real assets back home with their hard currency.I for one cant invest in a foreign country.Iam here to source capital and not to stay even marrying a Muzungu is out of the question because that will compromise my going back home and serve my country.

  108. one Zedian on the blog has complained on how hard he found it to get a loan when he visited. Loans are easily accessed here, walk in the bank any time it usually takes about a week or so in some cases less than that. conditions are – you need to have a job, salaries account with the same bank fixed aboard etc. you just dont walk and the bank and request for a loan yet you dont even live in Zambia. unless you were up to stealing or faulty finding. 😮

  109. Bamoze
    I have refused to comment on this topic because of certain deep-rooted beliefs I have about people in the diaspora. Reading through their comments, am seriously tempted to comment, but this is all I can do to stop myself from commenting. After all, this is their topic like you earlier said.

  110. Pinkly,i can see the real Baby C in you. Ladies,gentlemen and a boy Rotten Meat. It is very important to invest heavily back home.Just look at people who at one time were in diaspora, they have now settled in Zed.They have established big businesses and are doing fine. Crive Chirwa want to go back home. He is more successful than maybe everyone here.But he wants to leave Uk and Invest in Zambia.Advantages of Zambians investing in our own country:we can be asured that Our money wil remain in Zambia,Foreign investors change our kwacha into dollars and run away with the money to their countries. Our fellow Zambians can be treated well,since as a zambian you wil be in a better position to understand your fellow zambian you have employed. In times of trouble like the current clobal financial crisis,we can stand by our country and help economically,not runing away. However the government tries to encourage people to invest in Zambia,people wil find it had to believe.Because foreign investors are more favoured.

  111. Investment
    What I mean is: If one does not have zed citizenship(after relinquishing it), first you are given 30days at the border then you are treated as a foreigner were you are asked to do all business in US dollars. when it comes to tendering for construction projects preference is given to locals. So how does one compete?

  112. #25 I AGREE with you so many Zambians are anti zambia and so easily trade in their citizenship ahhh ine neva dual citizenship or not! you can be a permanent resident in another country without giving up your rights. WE LOVE WHAT OTHERS HAVE DONE IN THEIR COUNTRIES BUT WE JUST DON’T MAKE THE EFFORT TO TRY.EVEN JUST STUDENT WHEN WE GO ABROAD WE THINK ITS TIME FOR SPENDING SPREE N ENJOYING LIFE UNTILL WE GET INTO THE WORKFORCE….POOR MENTATLITY WE WASTE MONEY SOOOO MUCH I’M NOT AGAINST ENJOYING BUT THINGS I SEE PIPO START FROM SCRATCH WEN THEY FINSISH SKU WHILE SMART ONES ARE CLOSING DEALS N DON’T NEED TO DEPEND ON JOBS,get rid of poverty mentality!! :d:d:d

  113. People of Zambeziland… :((amuhutwe…yankani: bena Lusaka, Anonymous Sharpshooter, ba Maureen, Maestro etc:-?

    Acceptance, Trust and Responsibility go together.
    Accept our plea of dual citizenship
    Trust us that our vote is genuine, this will confirm that I can
    responsibly invest back ‘HOME’**==
    Home is home.Kwa ndu ni kwa ndu **==

  114. Fake pinkly

    What have i ever done to you ???? Thats not the way to go! If you think i will be upset and answer you back, you are mistaken, but thats very low of you. Thats not the way to sort out things. Anyway, your wish has been done! Stay blessed! I dont know why some bloggers hate me so much.

  115. Can someone tell me.. is the minister got kids? is she still single? any information please i will appreciate even her phone number.

  116. Ba Maureen at #105, if your flag is right, then you should be saying “tell us” not “tell them”.
    Ba Moze, I think Peace has a big dilemna and I believe he is talking from experience. Maybe the govt should consider a 3 tier system in which they could classify investors: 1. ZAMBIAN PROPER 2.ZAMBIAN WHO HAS CONVERTED INTO A FOREIGNER & 3. FOREIGNER PROPER. Maybe this could alleviate some of the problems that Peace at #107 is facing.
    Sweet Thong, sorry Thang at #104;your analysis is also spot on.

  118. Pinkly girl ain’t nobody hate you! Don’t have that attitude you must rise above it! This is how we lost the REAL baby C. Plenty of us love your comments you have just do what you do best, speak your mind! 🙂

  119. So, supposing the government does not accept your plea of dual citizenship, what will you do?
    Will you not invest in Zambia?
    Come on guys, there is no need to put up conditions to the govt or the zambian people before you can do what you know is good.
    While we know that dual citizenship is a good idea and needs to be supported it should not be forced on the Zambian govt just because you want to use it as a protest to force govt to attract your resources.
    Youn must understand that you have your origin in Zambia and all your relatives are in Zambia; why should you put up a condition when people that are not and will never even be zambians are bringing their investment?

  120. Its easier for Namugala to say what she has said and get a pay at the end of the day. Its is not as easy as she puts it to be. To venture ino tourism one definately needs land where to run his business from and the councils who are charged with land allocation are still operating at a rate only understandable or possible as though we are in 1921. A lot of people even those surrounding least developed districts like Kaputa and Chilubi will confess to you of the difficulties in acquiring land for any project be it residential pr commercial. Unless councils and district authorities change the modus operandi, Namugala’s dream is but a pipe dream.

  121. The zambian government is obsessed with people in the Diaspora. It pays so much attention to us as if the zambians in zambia have no capital or voice. The government just has wet dreams of loads of foreign exchange being sent to them from abroad so that they can live even more extravagant lifestyles.Government should worry about improving the living conditions of the common zambian man rather than pass useless comments about the diaspora

  123. Continued from 119
    In the same vein, the district and council authorities need to change in the way they view investors. Not every investor from abroad is worth their salt. I know of investors who have been given land and the next moment thay are dividing it and selling off at exhorbitant prices to locals. I know of investors who have acquired large tracks of land and the only activity in their is digging and selling of sand and gravel. Much as Namugala’s call is valid, a wholesale approach and perception to ivestment needs to be undertaken on a serious note. We need to be seen to be thinking in our actions and decisions and not cheap shot taking for headlines in papers or Tv.

  124. i’m waiting for the incentives :d/ let me give old man Rupy a chance before i say too much

    People can live in other countries without giving up their citizenship many people have done it it’s just that so many logistics involved. i’m in the middle n i can’t decide but today i feel like if u truly are patriotic you don’t want to give up your right to be a Zambian. People don’t like making hard decisions n thats a problem many third world people have ahhh sigh! its no wonder we r developing at snail pace…If you’re Zambian you are n u suffer with the Zambians to build your country,i only support for those who have a foreign parent, but other wise MULUNGA ANA KU FAKA PA ZED FOR A REASON

  125. Sweet Thang and others

    Fact: This is your country. Dont ever attach conditions for wanting to return to your motherland.
    Fact: Zambians out there have died and OUR tax payers money has been used (at great cost) to bring them back as cargo.

    The FACT is come and invest in your motherland. Foreigners are making money here and sending it back to THEIR motherlands.
    Think hard about this. Actually, its non negotiable, if you ask me!

  126. This issue of dual citizenship is a controversial one. One definately sells one’s birthright somehow and you will always be treated like a betrayer back home. Ofcourse it makes some things easier, travelling for example, or if you want to obtain a loan from a European Bank.
    I remember sorting out an arms issue at the police HQ in Lusaka on my last visit to Zambia. The first question the Inspector General asked me when he saw me with my German wife was “Are you still a Zambian citizen?”. It was only after showing him my Zambian passport that he loostened up the atmosphere & even started cracking jokes. I was well assisted. I doubt things had worked out so quick with a German passport.

  127. Ili ilyashi lyakosa,I have just realised that we all love our country,now whats the way forward? Lets help our govt to stabilise the economy and you will see how Zambians in diaspora will be flowing to invest mu Zambia.Guys we all love our country very much,but to tell you the truth economy pa Zed ilatinya coz of our Govt,they allow fake investors to exploit us.What one can buy here in K50,000 can not be compared with what some one can buy in Zambia,why is it like this,the govt tolaretes this investors to hike the prices anyhow.Here foodcop has been fined R45million for hiking the bread price.Bambi mulelanda fye given a chance to go overseas mukaposa na passport ocean. :-j:-j:-j:-j:-j

  128. Ba moze i love my country and i will go back – without a doubt! Just be on hand to show us the ropes from time to time! 🙂

  129. #113 Pinkly
    Its not everyone that hates you,some of us love you and yr comments matter a lot.Stay blessed

    Coming to the topic a lot has already been said. Investing back home is very vital as one day u will think of going back home. It will a such a shame if you go back to your parents’s home / relatives due to lack of proper planing and investments. I have learnt a lot from the comments thanks everyone who is in support of investing back home.

  130. And you guys outside the country should not think that by investing in Zambia you are benefiting the govt, and not yourselves.
    There must be a sense of ownership of the nation. If you have resources and you choose not to invest in Zambia, who do you think you are punishing?
    All of us have a responsibility to develop our nation. You must know that the places you are living in may not be the best places for you to settle forever. Even if you did and you saw nothing wrong, that should not make you feel Zambia must be dancing just to make you bring your resources, afterall if you invested here it is for your own benefit.

  131. Ba Moze
    tukabwela we love our country so much,but be informed that business yandi ngayabunda nkamila kwa Mununga. :-j:-j:-j

  132. brethren investment is not just about tourism. there are many opportunities here in zed.for example hard wood from nw, eastern and western- good quality. potential vegetable growing for export or groundnuts- ready market mu sadc and many others. come and join zacsmba or ask mr dodia from private sector development programme or from zda. many opprtunities, real estate pa lusaka or copperbelt cant be a bludder. come and see and prove me wrong. some zambians who frequently visit will agree with me. infact anumber of them have started.

  133. My last sentence on #125 should read “I doubt IF things would have worked out so quick with a German passport.”
    Sorry, you all should know that I’m always speaking German here & that has a negative effect on my english grammar.
    BTW I have noticed that our dear Pinkly has become a victim of personality attack today. Some people are just too bad-minded, Pinkly, just forget them dear, and move on. We love you. 🙂

  134. Pinkly

    Dont mind ka Fake pinkly,we will pray for her so that the evil spirit of hatred can come out.

    Fake Pinkly

    you need deliverance,Now that I love you so much I will be the first one to pray for your deliverance.

  135. Matworld

    Yes you are right…..somehow. please refer to my comments on #51. Not every one out there is comfortable my friend. We know these things. Some are doing odd jobs that they would normally not do here, but because we cant see them, its ok there. In the UK for example, guys are working in bars just to make ends meet. The Eight hours sleep required by a normal human being is a myth for some. Most have nothing to show for their stay there. Nizina chaba ati aliku Engi! malabishi! (sorry). We dont want our people to continue coming here as cargo,no! Its costing us a lot of money. In the end you are buried in unmarked graves in some foreign country as if ulibe kwanu. we cant allow that.

  137. Ba Namugala, you don’t seem to even know that Zambians living in the diasipora are already contributing alot to the economy of our country. Get figures from the Bank of Zambia or ask Professor Chirwa. The only problem is that the likes of Titus Mpundu alias Fredrick Chiluba, keep stealing from us.

    Lock up ka Titus Mpundu to encourage us to invest more.

  139. Matworld

    (Contd)
    Leave a legacy for your children back home, not in some strange country where people can hardly pronounce your name. where is our pride?
    Naleka. Am becoming too emotional.

  141. Ba Moze why are you an expert in peoples lives that are not your children or relatives. In life if you worry about others that just shows you are not content with where you are.

  143. Yaa not everyone abroad is okey but its better than being in Zambia. Coz they are trying to make a change in their lives.Ba Moza answer me how much would one be paid working in a bar or as a cleaner in Zambia?? Compare the difference and you will understand why they have to continue working in which ever part of the world they are. There are some pipo with first degree in Zambia, they cannot find a good job so which one is better working in a bar abroad or just being in the street in Zambia!!!

  144. Ba Moze

    I pray that you become the president of Zambia,I have just seen some passion for our motherland.How I wish the govt was so passionate for the pipo of Zambia.

    Guys

    Any Idea of the govt leaders who have invested in our country?

  146. These attacks on other blogger’s ID are ridiculous. LT please find a way of automatically blocking a second user of an existing ID.
    As for the real Pinkly, don’t let some silly people frustrate you. Some even know that this is a crime and therefore don’t even deserve prayers BUT judgement. Prayers are for those who know not what they do.
    I can’t speak for the other regular bloggers, but I for my part am looking forward to the real Pinkly’s future contributions.

    Don’t let such incidents discourage you Pinkly! 🙂

  147. #140

    sad that you have not understood the reasons for having a site like this one. the idea is to SHARE information. It has nothing to do with being an expert……Or maybe i could have just hit the nail on the spot??
    Do i sense guilt?? 😕

  148. Ba Moze

    No ukuleka mudala wandi,Icifukushi tekusova.Lelo Naulanda mudala :-j:-j:-j:-j:-j.I think you deserve to be honoured^:)^^:)^^:)^^:)^.Umuntu ni Mozeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!:-j:-j:-j:-j

  152. #129(FINE)Are you in Zambia or Israel. Your comments seem as if you are in Zed and then the flag speaks the opposite.

  153. Matworld,

    Teta owns Mansa milling(though he has not reduced the price of mealie meal)and alot of other guyz own companies although it’s quesionable how they acquired them.

  154. Ba Moze, Let it flow; it is good for the soul! Today, you are the anchor!! Keep it up
    For some the truth hates; for some of us, it is food and food for thought.
    Well said, I can’t praise you enough.

  155. Njobvu Kazi

    Thats a good point my friend. But i hope you are also getting mine. Its like politics. I for one HATE people living in Zambia and are non voters, but are the first to criticize. Nalichipata sana ichimusango icho. I hear you my friend…food for thought.

    Matworld

    Ok, nshaleke!

  157. #146 Actually ba Moze I feel no need to lie to you, I have done odd jobs like work in a factory and being a waiter. You might be more amused to learn that those jobs paid for my university tuition and is now paying for my Bar exams. I know simple minded people like you feel the need to laugh but you do forget the ends always justify the means. I have a relative who used to pack bread in a factory, word got to zambia and everyone laughed at him. Today he has a £100 a year job and the same people laughing at him are drinking chibuku and living in one roomed shacks at 35. you see Moze life is about being humble and the humble always excel. i know people that did odd jobs in the UK that own

  158. **==**==**==
    #143,matworld

    Have also not known any prominent zambian investor yet,all the sectors have failed from agriculture to mines,name it ,totally NOTHING!!

    Ba moze, mulibachabe,where do you get all these ideas from? good day….:-h

  159. 3 Muskteer

    thanks my brother. when it comes to The love for this country, i think i just lose it. I strongly believe in my heart that you guys out there are the missing link between poverty and prosperity. I believe and know it so.

  160. cont from #156
    that own radio stations and one of the wealthiest people in Zambia. Am sure thats a source of humour for you ba Moze.

  161. Thank Ba Moze.

    Man Kunde Pa mansa epali abafyashi na my only sister,please Teta Reduce thaprice nakupapata.

  162. Ba Moze am following you nicely. everything about what you are saying its true. but then you can not press so much into the brothers and sisteles. no matter how had life is in Zambia, i woul not go abroad to wash plates or bums for a living. if i have the right papers definately the job is there for me someone. ha! what can i tell my kids?

  165. Ba Moze
    Man I sense alot of frustartion in your posting. We’re all born with freedom of choice. If it pleases some people to do odd jobs and yet keep on staying in the UK, so be it. Let them be if that keeps them happy. But be reminded that it’s not everyone that does these odd jobs. There’re a lot of Zedians in the UK doing very good jobs. Get a life Ba Moze and learn to mind your business – no offence intended.

  166. Ba Moze

    I understand your comments and they make sense, kindly refer to my comments on #137.

    I wanted u to know the other side of the story as to why pipo prefer to sleep for 1 or two hrs abroad i.e to improve their lives coz in Zambia its not easy….

  167. #156

    There you go again! You my brother are still missing the point! To the contrary, i’m not laughing at anybody, and maybe we are speaking the same language. Yes congrats on what you have achived my friend. Just bear in mind that we cannot all be lawyers and that not everyone out there has achieved what you have. These are the people my comments are directed to; people who dont know what to do with their money. Call me what you like..small minded or whatever, i still insist that your investment at home is the missing link betwee where we are now and where we should be as a great nation. My brother, relax! We are on the same team here. All the best. :)>-

  168. I for one cannot comment on this issue coz am not inda diaspora,am 100% in Zambia + nafi internet ni free( GRZ resources).Am jus investing rite in my motherland Zambia.For sum of us its “Born in Zambia,educated in zambia, die in zambia” for ZAMBIA is my motherland.I rest my case as i await a new topic.

  169. #32 why accuse govt of denying you an opportunity? thats the same mentality that makes you anti Zambian.For you own information a lot of Zambians are building houses and those with money are free to start business. Do not accuse govt for your own lack of initiative. Woke up man.

  170. Thanks Ba Moze. I believe in people who tell the truth without malice and today you have done that and credit has to be given where it is due. We need more of your calibre, especially on this blog.
    Thanks. Will be back later.

  171. # 156, some Zedians believe in easy money. not all of them are in diaspora are doing what you have done. we know people who are there working as waiteresses. you are just one of the few Zedians and must congratulate you.
    but if you can, home is home, ensure your family doest loose ties to their roots otherwise they will find themselves in a situation where they try to search for their roots. **==

  172. #164

    In case you need to know, i have a life. Dont let that worry you. all we are doing here is SHARING information. I never knew it was a crime to do so. Nobody said anything about EVERYBODY out there. I think the word was SOME.
    ..And dont worry, anything to do with Mother Zambia, i never take offence. all the best my dear.

  173. Ba Moze

    LT has to award you on this topic.You are coming out so…what best word can i use mmuh..errr…soooo romantic on this topic.Cheer up big bro. :)>-:)>-:)>-

  174. Pinkly, one of the bloggers you are close to, is behind this fake thing. believe me. My first suspects are sweet thang , Ba maureen or Rashid

  175. Ba Moze
    But what gives you the right to be the spokesperson of what another does with money he has earned. haven’t you ever heard of the saying don’t count the money in someone else’s pockets but yours. And most Zambians do invest back home extensively, they just don’t go about announcing it because most zambians are vultures that beg too much. And even if zambians were to openly invest how is that any of your business because surely that won’t put a plate of food on your table. Worry about the money in your pocket and nothing else. If somebody spoils there money mind your own business

  178. #22 Chewe, you’re a hopeless, retarded little ba$tard. Coming here falling in love with fellow bloggers. Why can’t you grow up, get a life old man? You sit in front of your pc jerking off to Baby C and Pinkly. You’re as pathetic as a haemorrhoid on a cow’s buttocks.

  179. Matworld

    Thanks Mudala. all we are doing here is taking the bull by the horn. Its like i have offended others, which is unfortunate. But, iguess facts are facts and the truth is just that- the truth!
    Keep it coming.

  180. am here for the first time, having heard about the sight.
    # 164, lets be real, be factual – give us the real picture of life there. i for one love my sleep, it would not be possible for me to sleep for an hour to enable run from one job to another just to enable me pay my bills. dont forget that Zambians are well travelled and we have seen this life we are talking about. the mistake i can never make is to live my job for a plastic life there,
    most people served hard to get abroad, they left jobs here hoping to be able to make much more than here. worse most Zedians dont even have documents (living in hiding) therefore cant get full time jobs. for how long? its temporal life!

  181. Shalampungu-Banton

    Why do i sense a temper kanshi. For a lawyer, you really surprise me. Temper my friend, is not an attribute of a good lawyer. Be calm and put across your point. Also, the people you call vultures are your own relatives mind you. So i advise you to choose your words carefully. All we doing here is asking those Zambians who have not invested home to do so. Nobody said anything about telling them to let us know once they had done so, period! Ba lawyer, nishani?

  183. Matworld,no matter the treasures or how beautiful wherever u mite want 2tek me be,i can only be there 4a month and still cum back to my motherland.Thanx for that,u r far too kind my brother.Hopin 2meet u,oneday.

  186. I do not know why you sense temper because really people like you are comedy to me. You are busy sticking your nose in people’s business and wanting to control them and yet you forget your own backyard. Who are you to ask any zambian abroad to invest because I don’t remember any democratic elections you as spokesperson. Investing is a personal choice that should be done at one’s one will not after listening to some blogger. What proof do you have that zambians are not investing is it just berrhall gossip. I for one know 100’s of zambians investing back home

  187. Zoe

    Akwanisa mu fela ka. Imagine, your response has undone all what I felt was my impenetrable resolve not to contribute anything today.

  188. # 174, talk about yourself and not others. you are just suffering from poverty and all your know is your impoverished back ground. shame that you can say that about your relations because i know that they could be the only beggars in your life. give the Zambians here the correct picture so that you dont have to entice everyone to fighting for Visa and getting on the plane. Ka Zambia kanono sana and we know these. **== its not a life to be proud of. for your information, there are a lot of Zambians returning home, those that invested and are finding it so easy to fit in. they could have had good jobs, not imwe bakabova.

  189. You cant run a tourism venture by remote control. It will require those in the diaspora to return to Zambia. I wonder if they will do that, unless they have amassed so much money that they can live on it as the business establishes. Some of these buinesses take years to break even. Be realistic. Many people in abroad are in employment not in business. They need every pay cheque to have a life.

  190. Ba Moze and Zoe
    In this part of the UK were I live, all the Zedians I know have very good jobs. They work normal hours; i.e 08am to 5pm. Their rates are very good and they’re having fun while saving big time. Would you mind me inviting the two of you here? That will however be on one condition: you should promise not to run away after your visa expires and disappear to another town as an illegal immigrant.

  191. Fellers

    PLEASE WHOEVER SEES THIS GUY CALLED MAN KUNDE SHOULD TELL ME,PLEASE GUYS HE HAS GOT A CASE TO ANSWER NAPAPATA SANA GUYS.MAN KUNDE
    WHO DARE YOU REDUSE US LIKE THAT SURE? YOU KNOW WHAT AM TALKING ABOUT,i HAVE JUST READ YOUR EMAIL.

  192. Shalapungu-Banton

    Ba lawyer imwe, No one forced anyone to invest back home. The word used is “Encourage”. Mwati muziba chizungu imwe? Like i earlier said , for a lawyer (or a potential lawyer-assuming you are telling the truth)you are a big let down. Have you even followed this discussion? We all know hundreds of Zambians who have invested here. Thats besides the point. Oh, do i impress you as a spokesperson? thakns for the compliment. study hard. Missing a point can cost you an entire bar exam. Now, thats a fact!

  200. Livingstonian

    Dont judge a book bby its cover. You will be amazed with the people you are dealing with on this site. you are probably a young block who is just discovering his wings and roots. We are awy ahead of you in life young man. Just listen to advice. its for your own good…infact, it could save your life.

    Leave Zoe out of this? [-x

  202. thanks Ba Moze. I just sympathise with some people and their families. some of us value family and i can never at all cost call them unprintables no matter how poor. there are some people who have had a strugled background and never believe what they have become today such they loose their abuntu, the forget their families. mwandi ndine udabwa. i had always thought Zambians where ever the go, are proud of where they come from. words fail me. its also very true about how often we here of people dying abroad, and asking for contributions from back home to transport the body. we also know of people who get sick their and the Zambians contribute money for air tickets. we read, see and hear

  203. **==**==**==
    #191 MATWORLD,

    what has kunde done,did you give him your email code? yaba!! SINCE HES ON THE RUN, WILL CATCH HIM MY DEAR…..

  204. Culture in the UK is that people respect every job. I work in a Finance dept of a big corporation. The girl across my desk has a boy friend. He is a self employed plumber driving a brand new Toyota lexus.

    In Zambia, some people would rather be unemployed than do odd jobs. Yet they beg and depend on other people for pocket money. National productivity is very low because of such attitudes. If dont have any job please be happy to be a security guard or cleaner. It doesnt matter your qualifications. It is more respectable to earn your own money.

  207. 190. LIVINGSTONIAN :
    The only way you can save loads in the UK is when:

    1.Live in a boxroom with all bills inclusive.
    2.Single and have no kids.
    3.Work more than 60 hours a week.
    4.Eat bread and baked beans every single day.
    Please enlighten me on where i m going wrong as i also have a good job 9-5 but with the cost of leaving going up i m struggling to even save £10.00 a month.. :((

  209. Matworld-Nice guy

    Yr msg is very bitter, you should comedown before speaking to Kunda whenever you find him otherwise you will give him good ones.

  211. imwe guys,so what do you say about us who have abandoned our lovely countries and came to invest in Zed? those guys in diaspora should also invest wherever they are.

  213. I know of many Zambian nurses working long hours to make money for their projects back home. Some have built houses over there and have mortgages for the houses they live in here. So when retirement comes, sell your house here, get say £100,000 and go back to Zambia to live in your own house. How about that. A nurse in Zambia can only dream of such things. Some of us even get rentals in UK£ from our houses and flats in Zambia. Many Zambians abroad invest in property back home. All this comes from hard work.

  214. Rashid

    Those who invest out there are ok. At a risk of course. But we are encouraging them to come home. Pamene apo, ma lawyers benangu bakalipa.

  215. #207 Ndashila

    Ask people back home how they save, if at all. Saving money is just as hard in Zambia. Cheer up. Many people in Zambia cant even save anything at all.

    The only solution is to have a good income, which often comes with higher education, experience, skills or favour from the Lord. Wherever you live in the world, its the same. No home advantage.

  216. UK-Zed Observer

    Thats what we are encouraging. So i dont understand why some “lawyers” are becoming up-tight over the issue. Probably when we said “invest”, they thought we meant “stop everything and come back home”. I agree with your sentiments.

  217. 213. UK-Zed Observer:

    I m not trying to be a pessimist, but assuming property prices fall at the time of your retirement and are in Negative equity you wont get as much as you paid for the property plus interest for lender of capital.Property here is a risky venture…

  218. Us guys are in Zambia and when we say we are able – its not about boosting. I am in full time employment, but i have a registered company even with ZRA and i am able. # 189 I thank you! thats the point, problem nama Zedians boza even when they have become whites in the black skin. it doenst hurt to say the truth. we know there are some Zambians with full time jobs but again a lot more living a hide and seek life. they cant come home for holidays even for their own close relations funerals. Relations as close as mother, father – that is how bad it is, just for the sake for London or America!

  219. It is much better to invest in your own country where both yourself and others will not label you as a foreigner.
    You conscience will be clear and at peace, after all laws change in these nations and in some countries when you become a citizen ‘by persuation’ you will not have full priviledges as the indiginous owners of the country.
    For example, you might be called an ‘American of zambian descent’. Can you see how long that description is.
    And some of the citizenships that we acquire late in life have certain conditionalities upon which they can easily be revolked.
    But for the indigenous citizen, they would never have their citizenship revolked. Thefore Zambia remains your country.

  220. You see when people like Moze hear about people like Ndashila they celebrate because their gossiping and back biting has paid off. It seems typical zambian behaviour of celebrating ones misfortunes are inherent in some of you. As the saying goes let sleeping dogs lie. I will invest at my own timetable in Zambia not after ‘encouragement’ from a blogger. Wealth building comes from proper planning and research not listening to gossiping bloggers. I am yet to know anyone thats successful from listening to bloggers on lsktimes , on the contrary I know a few complaining after taking advice of looking for jobs in zambia from here.

  221. ChaloChesu

    This is now becoming interesting. Someone actually called his relatives “vultures!”. Truly Shocking. 😮

  222. Comments on # 9 and 63
    Catherine Namugala is married to Dr. Austin Sichinga (permanent secretary)and they have 3 children.

  223. Shalapungu- Baton

    Yes ba lawyer, thats the spirit. Invest in your own time. what is important is that “you will have invested”. Now,was that so hard to accept?

  224. Yes I will invest at my own time where I want to not just Zambia. And I never needed a blogger or a minister to tell me to do that it’s just common sense.

  225. Shalapungu-Banton

    Enough for one day. I like the way you make the name”blogger” sound. He, he, he. You forget you are also a blogger :)):)):))Nice ahving the debate….dear blogger!!!=))=))

  226. Livingstonian,PLEASE,LET ME BE IN MY MOTHER LAND ZAMBIA.I DONT NEED YOUR INVITATION,WHO TOLD U I ENVY STAYING ABROAD? LET ME REITARATE TO YOU THAT AM PROUD TO BE ZAMBIAN AND IF IT AFFECTS YOUR LUNGS OR ANY PART OF YOUR BODY,EISH MAN AM SORRY BUT THERE NO TWO WAYS ABOUT,I LOVE ZAMBIA PEERRRIIIIIIOOOOOOODDDDDD

  227. Fine, we are very much respected as foreigners here in africa unlike Africans are are out of Africa. Besides, not so many Guys who are abroad can manage to bring meaningful development to Zed. it take alot of money to invest in a country.

  229. Why is it that chaps in the diaspora are so pricky, itchy, canternkerous when they are advised? Is it the bitter weather in the Northern Hemisphere? Eish, reading Shalapangu-Banton gives me a scare. Life is not so bad in Zed, try it soon.

  230. # 221 Ba Moze it can only be non other than his relatives! it was put nicely to sound better but it actually meant VULTURES! they must have run for his pocket…..

  232. 224. Shalapungu-Banton,
    No, I think the minister and the bloggers are not talking about you.
    They are talking about people who are ready and have capacity to invest in Zambia now. Even the minister new that when she calls for diasporians to come and invest in the country not all of them would be ready to do so now. She also recognises that fact that not all have capacity at the moment.
    So it is not meant everyone. So your time will will come; dont worry about this timing, it is meant for the ready ones.
    And if have read correctly, the minister called on people to invest in Zambia. That means she was only interested in those would do so in Zed, not those who want to do so elsewhere.

  233. 210 Ba Moze, overall I think you are leading on points in this debate. Well done. I do not have a problem with people in diaspora doing menial jobs, that they would not otherwise do, as long as it is for a specific (preferably short) period, with a specific purpose (e.g. as a student). It becomes difficult to justify to me if it becomes a way of life….sleeping 3 hours a day, doing 3 jobs in a day, well past your prime and into retirement. Such energy would have been better expended making Zambia a better place. After all, only we Zambians have the heart to really develop our country. Granted a lot of people in diaspora are actually making good money and sensible investment decisions.

  234. #217 Ndashila. Thanks.

    I see you point. Yes property values fall. I am no property economist but I think property is one of the easiest and less risky investments.

    As for mortgages, the hope is that one would have completely paid off the house loan by the time they retire. In that case, at that point any price you sell the house would be good for you. Most mortgages have 25year terms. I think one can get a good change in UK£ if they sold it say after 20 years as they go back to Zambia.

    Lusaka rentals are good. Worth owning a house there. At the end you can live in it. Plus the £ change.

  235. Shimukokota Nsono & Chalo Chesu

    Seems to me that every time you touch a raw nerve, someone from nowhere will always spring out. I am at a loss of words as to how some people fail to handle the truth!

  238. # 9 … so you mean you do not know that Catherine (tourism Minister) is happily married to Dr Austin Sichinga ( PS Veep’s Office). I gues you were not there when LPM was telling him (on appointment) that you have been complaining that my wife is a Minister and me i am not working …

  240. The only way for Zambia to develop in a meaningful way is for all stakeholders (Zambians at home and abroad as well as the goverment) to get involved. Government officials like Ms. Namugala need to stop pointlessly yapping and start creating a conducive environment for investment and Zambians abroad need to realise the trememdous value of investing at home. I personally know of many Zambians in the diaspora who would be more than happy to invest back home, however laws governing investment are not friendly to indigenous Zambians.

  241. Peops invest if and while you can. Going back home to no property or fruits of your labour is no joke.

    Slightly off topic, when are passports to be changed by?

  242. # 232 and 233 mwakamba guys, mwakamba zoona. those that are ready “jump in the bandwagon” those that are not, time will come
    as for 4 jobs in a day, si inga balanse. to look after my kids through those means, noooooo – i have to have a good explanation for such a decision. but for my daughter otherthan to do nothing and stay home, i would gladly encourage her to do that, just to keep her busy and it its to raise money for college or UNZA yaku America olo ku Zambia, why not. But not for papa…. **==

  243. Ndashila – call me! I’ll find you a nice job a regular 9-5 with perks (i promise its nothing dodgy), i own my house (it has a garden) and i eat nshima and ~:> :@) 3:-o but not :(|) he he! For real if you are interested I’d be happy to help a fellow Zambian! Ba Moze I like the way you are passionate about **== pls keep it up!

  245. Ba Moze
    What you must understand is that there’re alot of advantages in being in diaspora for most of our brothers and sisters. At least they are able to do things that they would have only dreamt of back home. It’s not everyone that makes it home. Look around Zed. Ther’re are alot of Britons around there. They feel Zambia is the place were they can make it. It’s all in the mind. Be were you feel comfortable.

  246. Sweet Thang

    Cheers dear. :)>-
    Congrats on your achievements out there. I truly mean it. Just dont forget your roots dear. we still want you here. :d/
    As for me,**== is my life!!

  249. Livingstonian

    I feel you 100% my friend. Nothing wrong with making any place on earth home. Just like nothin wrong with ENCOURAGING (thats the key word, “Encouraging”) a brother or sister to invest back home. No one is forcing anybody. i suppose this is where the miscommunication is. And Yes, after all, home is where the heart is!!

  251. Zoe

    Yashani? Surely you cant even contribute a bit? Next time it will be you who will need my help, ka? Cheer up girl!! :-h

  252. Ba Moze – mwana i’m home every 6 months, i’m on a plan, but i’m not the only one in this equation, I’ll be home soon, you’ll be the first person i call! You keep your head up mwana! We all love home no matter what, some of us just had to leave because things weren’t working in zambia! i lived in zambia for 3 years and i came back to england not because i hated home, but because i worked a job earning k800,000 a month and i had to support my dad who was very sick, and send 4 siblings to school my salary wasn’t enough to do sqat so i moved to the UK and i send money home every month without fail, i feel if i came home i need to be able to know that i can still support my dependants 🙂

  253. Ba Moze
    I hear you. Cheers. It’s almost 3;15pm. I’ve to pick up my daughter at school. Keep on blogging big Moze. I like your contributions.

  254. Ba Moze, Shalupungu-Banton has come to his senses he cannot forever run away from real life. Manje mwaayambo seka pamene akamba sorry:o

  255. Blogger of the Day:ba Moze

    Intellegent blogger:all of you who have blogged today.

    The great comment:Every comment on this topic.

    Bored blogger:Matworld

    Beautiful Blogger:all the ladies at this site

    Handsome Blogger:all men on this site.

    Educated blogger: all Bloggers on this site.

    Most hated thing:impersonating

    Many thanks to LT for bringing us together on this site.

    God bless you all guys.Naya ku Gaza see you later.

  258. Chanda Musyalike

    Shani mani. Sininaseke awee. Yenze yawama nkhani lelo. where were you? Any way, info sharing mudala is a powerful tool. No man is an island.
    Cheers to you! :)>-

  260. #216 Ba Moze. Thanks

    In the past some people would retire eg from the mines, pack up household goods on a truck and head to the village. Some started running small shops selling buscuits and paraffin in the village, in old age. Some built houses they could not finish. No inheritance for children.

    May be their salaries used to be too low. May be they had no plans. May be there were too many dependants – like nephews, aunties, etc so much that they could not save any money. It will help if we all could make our little own money. Having one bread winner for a clan has not helped us much. Are we doing any better now.

  261. Kwa Ndu, ni kwa Ndu. Ku mushi ni ku mushi, kumunzi niku munzi. If government open doors for investiment we will there to promote what we can. If it does not, we will continue with family business and make sure that we secure our villages or farms for retirement. In the mean time we invest in the education of my children.
    Akantu dual citizenship :((:((:((**==:((**==:((**==:((**==

  262. My husband has really talked sense today!

    Bravo my wedded husband =d>. sweet thang find your own! will you????

  263. 243. Sweet thang
    sounds good…I hope they jobs are not in Tele sales..
    what do you do and which part of the Uk are you based..NW,SW,SE OR NE England.. :-w

  265. Sorry bloggers

    I have to take my husband away for a while, he is really tired and needs to freshen up a bit.

    later

  266. # 252 Sweet thang – at least you are one of the few, who could actually sucrifice for your family, am actually proud of you, you are one of the few that have gone for a purpose, for yourself and your siblings, i have read people calling their relations VULTURES, as if they were not born and bred here. it never occured to me that a Zedian could be that hostile to his own blood. as to refuse to save his own, at least ngati ni bamu street, even street kids we give once in a while. sometimes you walk in the street and you imagine if it were your own 10 year old…..

  267. Mrs Ba Moze, my sister we are not here to find love, i admire your hubbys intelligence! I was mere praising his passion I apologise if i’ve offended you!

    Ndashila – i’m SE england not in telesales, what field are you interested in? I am manager in my mid twenties! i won’t say too much, but i’m so serious about helping! I struggled when i first came here, but it always helps to talk to people. I used to live in the NE England.

  268. #262 Mrs Ba Shani???

    😮
    Plaese nakana ine! Muzaniletelela sure, iyee. Ngati mulina chifundo, awee, nisiyeni.:o:o

    Awee nayenda kansi
    Bye Bloggers!:-h:

  269. #252 Sweet Thang

    I agree with you. Many of us were pushed out of Zed. I went thru 3 retrenchments due to privatisation. When UK looked for highly skilled manpower, I applied from my house in Lusaka and it was granted within 4 months! I was unemployed, so even though I never desired to leave Zambia, I left.

    I know of a fellow engineer who just started taking photos for a living when we got retrenched by Zccm. I had just come back from the UK for my postgrad. Fortunately his wife, a nurse, got a job in the UK. The guy is now comfortable here, working as an engineer. We did our undergradute engineering at the same UK univ. There are many ex-ZCCM professionals here, by circumstances.

  270. Nifuna **==**== will continue for
    1. Dual citizenship for my children who will continue my business in Zambeziland.
    2. Ku vota in every election of Zambeziland
    3. Kucita retire home where mu umbilical chord is burried.

    That is why I am investing in Zambeziland.
    Retirement in foreign land is tricky.:o [-( I have seen too much in my work as a Social Worker. Jokes aside.

  271. 266 – anonymous – Family are very important, they may not always be nice but absolutely, i would not be who i am today without them! It pains me to see or hear about them suffering. Mwana we have to help our people! 🙂

  272. Two people on the blog who gives me a headeche whenever it comes to my husband, Pinkly and sweet Thang. I will catch you oneday. My husband is so much into you. I will blow your little heads if you dont stay away.

  275. Sweet thang

    Iam forced to come back,Come on dear Ba Mrs Moze wibaposako amano naiwe.Promise me ati walabalabako,Iam sure Mrs moze you are bored like me lets give the rest chance to contribute sensible things why dont you watch african magic or join me Iam watching CNN,BBC or ALJAZEERA.

  277. #65 Ba Anonymous

    Boza uyumunthu!!! do you mean to tell us that the whole year you saved an equivalent of K500,000-00 in pounds. You MUST BE A BUM OR A TRUMP living in do ways or rubish bins.
    Just come back home before your freeze your Bemba arse off.

  278. Ndashila – you are in a good field, who doesn’t need an accountant! If you’re in the city of london i know a few people in the big banks esp investment, hedge funds! but its risky with the financial climate it pays extremely well. If you want stability then local govt but the pay isn’t great and the politics!

    Mrs ba Moze – he is all yours, i’m a lover not a fighter!
    :)>-
    matworld come and help, mrs ba moze is upset, tell her its not like that!

  280. Matworld nice guy,

    I thought you were my mulamu. Wanichinjila nzelu chifukwa cha Sweet Thang? You were my husband’s best man for God’s sake.Its ok. Am off to the gym with my husband. Sweet Thang one more thing, warn your ka friend pinkly as or else i will come and sort out both of you.

    Bye

  281. Invest banking is offloading people these days. Hit hard by credit crunch. Confidence in hedge funds is pretty low. Will take long time to recover – may be no full recovery at all, once more regulations are introduced in the aftermath of the credit crunch. It will not be business as usual.

  282. Ba Moze, I suggest that you buy Anthony Robbins’ book ‘Awaken the Giant Within’ and you are finished reading it come back and blog. That is my advice for Mudala.

  283. I have lived in the United States for 16 years now and visit Zambia every year…sometimes twice. I have tried different investments and have been ‘had’ by so many greedy and corrupt people. Lets face it, many Zambians are dishonest and like to mark-up to make unrealistic profits. Then comes the issue of corruption. You can never get anything done in good time unless you bribe someone. That is retrogressive. Nobody should accuse me of being anti-Zambian…I have pumped money into Zambia.

  285. My apologies for being late.
    We do our best, but the government can help by puting in incentives to attract hard earned stirling, dolars or whatever. We all want to invest back home but you have to be very careful, unless you in Zambia, safe investment oportunities are zero. Cash generating ventures are not safe and property requires large sums of money saved. Local banks can help by offering loans to Zambians in diaspora if guaranteed by government. African governments are also not so reliable and their economic policies dont help. You know what I mean.

  286. On this article, tourism is a sector in Zambia with huge potential. But things like red tape, heavy taxation and so on are discouraging investment. This can easily be changed…

  288. I think is not well equiped to deal with diaspora investments.
    Countries like Ghana have Banks which give mortgages to people abroad to purchase properties in Ghana.All the people have to do is Deposit money in the a nominated bank account here in the UK.
    Is zambia able to sustain such a system??? 😕

  289. #287,British Anonymous, at first i was suspecting you of impersonating pinkly. I still do but with reservations though.

  290. TYPICAL ZAMBIANS..LOL… I WAS AT UNZA AND THE KAPONYA MENTALITY THAT PREVAILED AT UNZA I SO EVIDENT HERE TOO. LOUD OBNOXIOUS MOUTHS WITH LITTLE FACTUAL INTELLECTUAL ARGUMENTS..aND I DON’T MEAN TO BELITTLE ALL COMMENTS HERE, SOME HAVE BEEN VERY INSIGHTFUL HONESTY AND/OR PASSIONATE.
    TO ADD TO THIS DISCUSSION, PEOPLE SHOULD LOBBY FOR ZAMBIA TO ALLOW DUAL CITIZENSHIP. IF THEY DO, OUR CHILDREN BORN OUTSIDE OF ZAMBIA WOULD ALSO FEEL THE NEED TO “INVEST” IN ZAMBIA. HOW DO I INVEST IN A COUNTRY WHERE I GREW UP PLAYING ICHIMPOMBWA, BUT NOW NEED A VISA TO GET IN? THOSE ARE LEGISLATIVE ISSUES THE MINISTER SHOULD TABLE,IF SHE REALLY WANTS TO WOE ZAMBIANS ABROAD TO INVEST.

  291. Hogwash,she is just trying to do her job.There is no future in tourism,dont even waste yr time,and money.Agriculture.Maize is never enough altough we have bumper harvest every year.We supply Zim, Mozambique,Angola, Congoand Namibia.Ready market.FOOD,can never go wrong.Tourism,forget,no future.

  292. yes we can invest back home but the gvt should also stop corruption to win our confidence.The police and ministry of lands are the most corrupt

  293. Kweena Pinkly uzasiliza ma marriages ya bantu ba blog. Who is this Mrs Ba Moze telling you off now. Be care someone will come and pull off your hair. lol

  295. Has this blog become a chat room for students?
    Lusaka Times clarify this matter for me. We Will soon have an article that reads, “An affair that started on the LT blog destroyed my life”. lol

  296. If you don’t have the money to invest back home just shut up. Some of us we have businesses in Zambia and we welcome the Move by the minister.

  297. Zambia national housing authourity any plots available at low cost or medium cost areas?

    How much are the houses at low cost and medium cost areas at Zambian national housing authourity cost?

    I have tried to email and phone Zambia national housing authourity no answer.

    Thanks for your help.

  298. Can someone explain why everone thinks the ZDA is biased towards foreign investors. As far as I know the same rules apply to all. Incentives are given out relative to the size of the investment and the area of investment, not on the nationality of the investor.

  300. Land is appreciating very fast in Z, as are houses. A house that was K15m in 1997 can now be sold for K250m. Serious minded people are investing in Land and houses. There are many west Africans who are building mansions in Lusaka, so the property market will only get tougher for new investors. However, if you are thinking of building, heed the advice of the people in earlier posts who have first hand experience, and ensure that you have a hands on approach on the project. The minute you entrust too much control, power or trust to others, you will be heavily burnt.

  301. Zambians are always trying to tell others how to spend their money. Who even employed some of you as freelance financial advisors? You take peoples hard earned money too personal as if they are your parents. I say and will say it again most zambians are dishonest vultures that are always looking for handouts, don’t get mad at me for telling some of you what you are. Anyone abroad thats done business with zambians will tell you how crooked and corrupt that place is. As for me I will invest in the best endevour that will maximize my profits and last i checked tourism industry is zambia isn’t doing that.

  302. One other thing, living abroad will make you expect things to happen quickly and for people to be accountable – this is not always the case in Z. Consequently, controlling projects from afar can be a stressful business, especially when those on the ground have little appreciation for the heartache you have to endure to get the funds you are sending. But its not all bad news, the benefits of a successful project are long lasting and highly profitable in the long term. And no it’s not impossible or difficult to get loans, just prepare before you go. Get the facts and walk in with the requisite evidence. Z banks are not going to throw money at you just because you boarded a plane to get there.

  303. This is really funny, now the entire minister is asking for the zambians abroad to invest back home. How does the government expect us to invest when the money we have is from the old people’s bums. To be honest, I urge some people to swallow their words. Working in UK especially , regardless of what yo do is far mouch better than working as graduate in some ministries is zambia. Invest in tourism, Namugala a lota tulo:

  304. When it suits them they insult us Zambians in the diaspora and declare we cannot even stand for any political office unless you are in Zambia (late Mwanawasa vs Prof Chirwa), and yet when the sh*t hits the fun, they want us to invest back home!! What a confused directionless government!!

  305. Exactly #303 and #304, they are quick to insult us and call us antizambian it is not that we are just anti mumbwa mumbwa . They laugh saying we are struggling and yet when it comes to beg for money like vultures they are quick to ask from us. [-( . The same ones laughing at peoples jobs are the same ones that want to be experts on how people abroad should spend their money

  306. Ba Namugala,
    How can someone from Diaspora invest in Tourism before helping owns family??? so many who work overseas have a line up of relatives. Helping and looking after these relatives in Zambia is enough investment. A lucky few in Diaspora own businesses. Most of them are students, essential workers who have mortgages, bills and school kids.
    Let those who want to invest in Tourism do so at their own will. They do not need a reminder from you…

  307. Globalization. Global Presence. Something big businesses pay big bucks for. Partner with diaspora businesses, help them diversify into Zambian exports, don’t uproot them. Ask those who have made money how to do so, rather than trying to tell them the way to make it. Tourism industry is not flag manufacture, patriotism won’t drive demand. Putting posters and other promotional material in a thousand Zambian owned or friendly businesses around the world might. Mutual fund might help with investment flows and risk averaging, but only 16 companies on LSE, no national credit rating for other businesses, etc. CEEC is having the same problem.

  308. The onus is on all the zedians, especially in the Diaspora who have the experience and the education, to invest back home. There is no excuse to be abroad for more than a generation. The offsprings born abroad have a choice to stay, but please come back home. After all your foreign currency is worthy more. You have foreign currency, right? Otherwise, what would you be doing abroad and be worthless, huh? Zed will never change if you leave it to the people in zed to change. After all they are used to the status quo!

  310. Good morning Ba Moze! Let me say that I appreciate the sentiment of those in Zed, among whom you are a most articulate spokesperson (I care not if you are formally elected, you speak for a perspective, and that articulately). I feel that you are correct, in that there is every reason for persons with connection to Zambia who live outside her borders to care deeply about her future, and to manifest that caring in tangible ways. I think that many others chafe at certain words used to express this sentiment, like “no excuse” and “Just come and invest home,Period!” …

  311. … You say “encouragement” but I do not see many people expressing the feeling that they are encouraged by you, though I believe that to be your intention by “exhorting” with the passion you feel. I encourage you to recognize that those for whom your words may be appropriate are not reading this from abroad. Most anyone in the diaspora that reads LT cares, and is trying, and it hurts to be dismissed for being as ineffective as any other Zedian in the face of challenges.

  312. For those in the diaspora who feel that they have specific and constructive things that the government can do to facilitate investment from the country you reside in, I encourage you to make use of the newly created website for the purpose of lobbying at diasporaconnect . blogspot . com (I hope I haven’t broken a guideline, my apologies to LT if I have, feel free to delete).

  313. I Totally agree with (71. Ukulanda kwisha mweo). Every chance is an oppotunity. Successful pipo see opportunities where you think there is impossibility. By the time you realise what your fancy dreams are, someone has already bypassed that stage and rendering it an archive!

  314. Even in the darkest pit, a successful person will see more opportunities! No wonder why when you ask rich people how they got riches, they would simply tell you that “Haha, work hard my friend!”

  315. They do not hide anything but simply feeling pity for you that you will never accumulate the wealth they have! NZELU NIWEKA

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