President Mwanawasa has with immediate effect terminated the appointment of, Mundia Sikatana, as Foreign Affairs Minister and has since replaced him with Minister of Tourism, Environment and Natural Resources, Kabinga
Pande.
President Mwanawasa indicated in a letter addressed to Mr. Sikatana that the
termination of appointment is due to his failing health which has been observed
recently.
The president, however, acknowledged the distinction manner in which Mr.
Sikatanadischarged his duties during the time he served in Cabinet.
This is contained in a statement made available to ZANIS by Special Assistant to the
President for Press and Public Relations John Musukuma today.
“The President Mr. Levy Mwanawasa has with immediate effect terminated the services of Honourable Mundia Sikatana, MP, as Cabinet Minister,” read part of the statement.
The president indicated that Mr. Sikatana will, however, remain MMD nominated Member of Parliament until such a time when appropriate placement or further consideration is made.
President Mwanawasa thanked Mr Sikatana for diligently serving the nation adding his
contribution to the effective implementation of agricultural policies has helped
government achieve improved productivity and food security in the country.
Mr. Mwanawasa has also promoted Tourism and Natural Resources Deputy Minister,
Michael Kaingu, to the position of Minister in the same ministry and appointed
Kapoche Member of Parliament, Fashion Phiri, as Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs.
And in a letter of transfer addressed to Mr Pande, Mr Mwanawasa said he has alot of
confidence that Mr. Pande’s leadership qualities would help guide the ministry of
foreign affairs to enable it effectively achieve its mandate.
Mr Mwanawasa said the ministry of Foreign Affairs is critical to the development of
the Zambian eceonomy.
Your Excellence, That move is very smart to say the least. Mundia served this country with distinction having changed our Agriculture and foreign relations for the better placing them on top notch performance. But indeed his health has failed him and it is only humane to factor in that concern.
The incoming minister Hon Pande is the Party’s Vice Chairman whose performance in both the party and Government has been second to none. His higher education and long senior management experience from BOZ like his Deputy Professor Fashion Phiri are empirical assets to the nation which we cannot afford to under utilize at national level.
It’s the prerogative of the presdo to hire and fire even in dreams. If the state of health can be used to replace someone then Shikapwasha must be next. The chap of late the med file is thicker than two loaves of bread. Any way, Sikatana ever since he betrayed his friends during Shamwana failed coup has never being a radiant in politics. I still wonder where these funny names are coming from in Zed politics like Kaingu, Magande, Fundanga? Even during my edu time we never had such names in class.
Number 1: i am really worried about your comments, i have been following your coments and i dont seem to learn from you. Your approach is that of a cadre. Are you implying that you are not an asset to the nation ? The reason for Sikatana is beyond health because there are many sickly Ministers than Sikatana.
I agree with you #3 let us see what happens next??????
Even Chuchu himself is sick! He has even changed SADC to SADAC. Chuchu just tell us what Sikatana has done apart from that cheap issue of his poor health. Chuchu and Sikatana are like sim card and phone! Now we will see.
I am back with my request: Can anyone help me find a zambian man to marry? My email address is [email protected]. Please don’t ignore me. Zambians I think are very good and kind people.
Christy you are wierd
#1 Ngugi… If you need a job from LPM just give him a call. LPM himself as already pointed out is not 100%. I would like to see LPM just come out and say the truth or follow Ba FTJs policy , Never give reasons for dismisals.
#6 Christy give as the stats
Hight:
Weight:
Education:
Monthly: Income (verifiable)
Assets:
#9 Bushe uyu mwaice Christy uko mwaba takwaba baume? Iam sure this chap is a man, we dont promote homo sexuality in Zambia, try UK,Zambia is a christian nation
# 6 Christy, i will proceed with your request. But take note of Kuku’s remarks. Zambia is a Christian nation and thats why we are dam good
SAGE (8),
Is it normal of you to advise an inside aid that way?
my x girl friend ‘s name was christy…how true is that
Remeber this is the same guy who a few weeks ago said politicians dont read or patronise LT so are ideas on the blog dont go anywhere no do they have ny impact on the political spectrum. If that is so why does he keep showering LPM with undue praises. He is trying to get LPMs attention. So go to statehouse.gov.zm and ask for a job.
SAGE (14),
Where on earth can an inside aid use the web to switch jobs? Besides that, is it necessary for a technocrat to switch into political vocations when the call for technocratic roles in the national development is overwhelming?
who told you that he is an insider? If so whay is he wasting our time blogging with some one who cant objectivelly look at issues.
SAGE,
Why are you so bothered to the extent of pushing someone to take some job? Do you know all the internal MMD and Gov arrangements? Have you suddenly become LPM’s recruiter? Then tell us who is who in the camp and why he is saying the civil society is insulting him by their dictates to retire the justice and information ministers? Do you know all his networks? Do you know all the aides? Does any of us here really need you to tell us what to take up in public careers?
SAGE,
In your views how has these wayward diatribes predominant on LT impacted ground events or policies? That thinking is very dangerous to self in our Generation if we have to put a mark in leadership. It is no different to HH who kept announcing everywhere that he was too popular going by his votes lead in the Chanda Chisala’s Zambia Online polls.That is too childish to say the least.
No president on the face of the earth wants to be told who to fire or keep. And i agree with LPM on that. He is the best guy to know who can help him fulfill his vision for Z. Your problem is parading yourself as a cheerleader for LPM on this blog. Whatever little thing LPM says you jump and run with it. We know Veteran,Pandit and Observer are one and the same person. So save your inocence here. I dont care who is in the camp and who isnt. All i’m asking from you objectivity. When LPM is right by any means support him, but when he is wrong we expect some objectivity from you.
FACT,observer,Veteran,pundit aka Ngugi. All it takes is one leader reading the blog. Not everything said here is good, but there are some excellent ideas that people share on this blog. If Kapita asked his assistant to print him out what the KUKUs,EASY and CHAPI put across regarding the agricultural sector in Z , he could have picked up a thing or 2. We are not saying he can run his ministry based on ideas from the blog. But he can surely get free info. Dont ever mention the name HH when bloging with me. Have you ever heard or seen us discuss HH on this blog?
#19 SAGE.I can bet you that you`ll never get any objectivity from VETERAN or whatever other name he might refer to himself.Imagine,he`s the only one on the blog that supported LPM when he equated himself to the almighty GOD.When you pin him down with facts,he`ll always hits back by attacking your personality.Anyway,that`s just some free advice I would give you.If Sikatana has been fired on medical grounds,then I no longer see LPM`s cabinet surviving the chop.
Veteran is a half baked and unfinished contributor.I have read his contributions which are of below par. Typical cadre who doesn’t see any wrong as as it is LPM OR MMD. On the constitution he behaves like as if he has no ears or eyes like most of the voiceless. Politics is a dirty game mind how you play. Chuchu is a shame coz he is also sick in the heard as well as physical. Sikatana I thank you for having saved the pipo of zed.
Veteran is a half baked and unfinished contributor.I have read his contributions which are of below par. Typical cadre who doesn’t see any wrong as long as it is LPM OR MMD. On the constitution he behaves like as if he has no ears or eyes like most of the voiceless. Politics is a dirty game mind how you play. Chuchu is a shame coz he is also sick in the heard as well as physical. Sikatana I thank you for having saved the pipo of zed.
Too bad for Mr Sikatana, Mwabombeni Mukwai. Can you tell the nation why you didnt resign as Minister of agriculture? People died of hunger in some parts of Zambia but you refused to resign, Why? Can someone tell me if winter maize is more groown in zambia
Levy should just be honest and tell us what exactly Sikatana did to deserve being fired. Had it just been an issue of bad health, he could have sat with the man and urged him to resign on his own accord as opposed to firing him. There is undoubtedly more than just sickness here because as one person above commented, there are so many sick people in this government and Kunda George at Legal Affairs is one such person and yet Levy only the other day pledged to retain him in cabinet despite clear signs that his sickness is getting to his head in a bad way, the case in mind being his opposition to a Judicial officers code of conduct bill.
Progressive Presidents as our Current one in plot one are leaders with human heart. They don’t believe in the traditions of humiliation. President Mwanawasa has the right to appoint and disappoint within the confines of the constitution.
When considering candidates, he does it within his prerogatives. There is no input whatsoever from the quacks rambling thoughtless resignation orders in their wilderness. He does not count on any quack to provide him best national choices but selfless patriots across the country ever with the people on the Ground. At his discretion he uses patriots country wide to identify, screen, recommend, appoint and measure expected performance. No decision or attention is based on those who have willed to see the administration fail though to always to their shame. Not even those junk mails cleaned daily have a platform.
That said, the President does not owe it to anyone to explain his appointment and disappointment decisions. What he has given is enough for those in battles of imaginations to preoccupy themselves with. What matters in decision management is the level of need to know principles. If his close top level party and Government officials are briefed that is enough.
Unless his appointment were based on consulting of trolls and quacks, there is absolutely no legal or moral obligation to trumpet disappointing decisions. Good leaders know that the party has better responsibilities and obligations to fulfill in the best interest of Zambian and party membership than taking orders from clueless quacks.
Mbuzi (23), SAGA (20) and Shark (21)
I don’t think I could accuse you of being smart or knowing your roles in life. The
fear of inhibiting logic restraints me from proving further that you a legion of shallow kids thoughtlessly laboring to silence me with your fruitless attacks. Often you attribute to me all sorts of IDs yet I don’t care. When throw you two lines in rare responses you turn your faces in rivers of sobs that I attack your personalities. What personality can I attack that you have? You mean the personality of trolling for Sata and insulting the MMD leadership 24/7? Hear this that will never realize you any dream but widen your gap from the present and future national roles. You will vindicate me one day that I foretold you this.
Don’t expect me to sink to your gutter levels and join in insulting the Government in blogs as your way of criticism. The Mwanawasa administration has a very good open door policy and democratic tolerance for divergent views like never before. I have the brains to use those channels in registering my misgivings. Like a Good father who seats his children down for correction rather than going in blogs with insults, I will never buy that madness of yours. I belong to the moral supper highway with clear goes ever tallying in life. God lucky in all your undertakings!!!
If my memory serves me right, was it not Mr. Sikatana that came up with the policy of giving 10,000ha or more of FREE Land to run away white farmers from Zim in the name of ‘developing’ the agri sector? Were has that policy taken Zambia? We can’t let foreigners grow our food then claim that our agri sector is growing. That is just moving zim’s land problem into zed which is not right. If our gov’t wants to develop the agri business why haven’t they empowered local farmers instead? These white farmers are again making huge profits and keeping them in british banks based in Zambia, how does such a set up benefit the country? I don’t think we are getting any meaningful benefits. We should stop this muzungu anikonde culture because it has taken us nowhere!
Veteran I strongly belive you are clueless quak coz when there is news wealth reading or discussing pipo will come up with different opinions and as a matter of fact we respect their opinions though we may totally disagree.If surely your Chuchu is a progressive kateka why his govt is failing to account for missing K70 billion meant for maize and fertilizer.Could this be the reason Sikatana has been dropped for the cover up? The answeer to any well informed and educated person is there is total fear and panic in the chuchu govt. There is no accountability and responsibility in finance management by this govt.We are talking about K70Billion.A statesman chooses what type of language to use in public. a decent head of state can not tell pipo stop having children. looking after children is the responsibility of parents and the state to provide them with shelter, food ,health, education etc.Chuchu needs to learn PR and social psychology more importantly mature advisors. He is a shame
Contd: Yes when the president appoints his ministers we don’t ask why he has appointed them but when he fired a minister we ask which is normal but for the likes of Veteran you are call names in derogatory manner.
imwe banthu why do you hate levy so much?
you always try to find some nagatives from whatever statement or action he makes or takes………Nsashichitukabalashi #5 says “chuchu has even changed SADC to SADAC”
Before I drive # 29 through some life lessons of wisdom and thoughtfulness having seen the way he comes out more of an empty bucket kid than a level headed human being, May I know if # 29 is a complete human being? Is he a Mbolozi, or Mbuluzi (lizard) or Mpolonzi (maggot) or Mbuzi (Goat) as Veteran put it in # 27?
Just being careful because I don’t treasure intruding our Game park species evolution has been helping to speek though thoughtlessly.
He shouldnt have appointed him in the first place,the guy z too old,kwasala Lesly Mbula & all those political failures.Y keep him in Parliament anyway,the guy shud b resting
Opanda nzelu (33),
How old is Sikata compared to the oldest Congressman and senator in the USA houses? How old will sata be come 2011 considering that ya’ busy wasting ya’ time selling again as Presidential candidate? How old will he be though Mafias got him another shock waiting in the advanced stage?
By the way, Sikatana must forget any redeployment at the hands of mafias. The one year probability given for reappointment is instead a max Grace period being given to some cadrelising ka school boyi to finish the in progress Graduate studies. New blood, New blood in the name of cementing positions for 2011 with card carrying members. Its mafias at play staging another walk to feasting season 2011-2015 as usual.
Sikatana is elderly and of late in failing health. The portfolio he holds is an image window for the country, it requires an enegertic robust occupant. Levy has made a right descision.
There is no need for innuendo and demagogery over this matter.
Christy go to south africa where they accomodate those nasty ways.
Veteran,
Your’re a shameless spineless jackal, had it been during the days of my reign, I would have flown over your throat.
Honestly, one would have thought the “kaca” of “Kamalondoring – stinking unintelligent parroting party cadre” ended with the KK regime and that of “Kayopering – sleeping all the time when state coffers are being emptied while other nations are moving forward”, ended with the stinking Chiluba kleptomaniac excremental fiasco. Alas, “Veteran” is a new age “Kamalondo Kayope” able, ready and very willing to be smeared with Muwelewele’s acidic excrement and pretend he is smelling good! Atase, kulimonesha ta ba mwisho, mwabe tole pa musana. This country does not need brainless *****s like you showing your repulsive and rotten faces here, or anywhere!
Shaka Zulu (38),
Going by that venting, do you think you have any ounce of human intellect in your head? Is there any difference between you and Ba Joze in caliber? Could we see 5 clear expressive lines of though from you revealing somwe prowells? Inventives in a none engaged reaction is a testimony of one’s mental lapse and defeat.If you were mentally upright, you could have come up with a hot engaging topic with Veteran on his platform driving your points home where we the people could have looked through your caliber. But invectives bring zero returns. I will be stunned if Veteran will even bother taking you own. If i can see your failures and mental gaps, i don’t know of the tested in active duties.
Shaka Zulu (38),
I think your sentence i quote “This country does not need brainless *****s like you showing your repulsive and rotten faces here, or anywhere”!is a self admonition.Your behaviour falls withing the detested continum. Find smart and effective ways of engaging these MMD people if you have to record and achievement. Mind you they are the ones who schemed and strategied the down fall of UNIP. They are the ones who know the mechanics. Ask VJ the brain behind the winds of change how he managed and coordinated it to the finish line. He never insulted or vented like you are doing but skillfully coordinated the momentum to the finish.
#38 Shaka Zulu
Your venomous language is full of profanity without due provocation, we the citizens are convinced that you must belong to that institution between Mumana Hotel and PHI Bennie Mwiinga Housing complex.
Sikatana has been a very good cabinet minister and he should be proud of his record especially at the Agric ministry.I was a bit sceptical about his appointment to the foreign affairs portifolio but there again i have found no real faults in his tenure there either.
This is a man FTJ laughed at when he said we could grow winter maize.Sikatana and his technocrats made it possible and he shamed his critics.Winter maize cultivation is now a norm in our agricultural cycle.
All good things like a book come to an end….and his time in cabinet has followed this trend.Hopefully he still has the strength to contribute to the law profession which he has faithfully served with distinction, over the years.
I wish the appointing authority was more diplomatic when announcing the termination of his colleagues services.Anyway, diplomacy has never been LPM’s strongest points.Sikatana was hardworking and his contribution and efforts will be missed.
#2, are you then suggesting that all appointees names should first sound familiar to you?
Such thinking, when extrapolated, sounds tribal/regional to say the least.
Merit should be the mark NOT how a name sounds, please!
Veteran
What higher education does Pande have? As far as I know he is Grade eight (Form two). He was appointed as Public Relations Manager for BOZ by relatives. This Foreign Affairs appointment is senseless because the man hasn’t displayed any diplomatic characteristics. In Business you appoint someone according to their strengths so that you can exploit those to the advantage of the business. Clearly in Zambian politics its according to how you bootlick. It doesnt matter what damage you will cause
#44 Neiter
Kindly educate me, what type of diplomatic charateristics does one need to have in order to be appointed Foreign Affairs Minister.
Ba Hey(43),don’t you find the use of the word “betrayal” in submission 2 misplaced and instead the word “patriotic” should have been used? LPM, being a lawyer, was,in all fairness, expected to appoint colleagues with whom he was familiar with.Hence a clique of lawyers within govt. wield alot of power and influence.FTJ did the same with unionists!!Over time some of these colleagues disappoint or become overly ambitious and are replaced.On advice from an “inner circle”,relatively new faces and names begin to appear.Any amateur political analyst such as myself, would be able to see this obvious trend.Unfortunately, some things are not so obvious to others it seems.I firmly believe in the evolutionary nature of government and the emergence of strange names and faces shock me none!!
#43 Hey
Iwe ka Hey, all these juke names that are mushrooming the Zed political arena are attached to the family tree and if not then must be the in-laws ba kwa chuchu.Hey mwaice, in future learn to contribute rather than sitting there as a critic.
# 27 Veteran
Bushe iwe ingulu walwala tashitusha te? You and chuchu must be sjamboked in public for suffering from chipumputu plus producing ipofu kutanua when talking.
Ba Neuter(44), you a way off the mark comrade.It is quite obvious you do not know Kabinga Pande or his history at all.Silence is often better than exposing ones lack of knowledge. Lack of knowledge is not a bad thing as a little research cures this common ailment.We only start worrying when the ailment borders on sheer ignorance!!
Ba Neuter(44), you are way off the mark comrade.It is quite obvious you do not know Kabinga Pande or his history at all.Silence is often better than exposing ones lack of knowledge. Lack of knowledge is not a bad thing as a little research cures this common ailment.We only start worrying when the ailment borders on sheer ignorance!!
# 43,
Do you really expect to pick any sense or reason with that Mine Masala conductor? I wish that was the case!
My nephew went to Chiwala boys with the confused brother Joze. I visited Chiwala many times.During the visits, I learnt that about 85% of those who lived in Luangwa and Zambezi hostels other than kafue and Luapula Hostels have not been normal in the real world after high school. They smocked dagga and most received expulsions from School ending up as dropouts. If you have been there Zambezi and Luangwa Hostels are right in the Bush of Chief Chiwala where chamba is grown by the farming boundery of Dickson Matutu.Joze was expelled stoning the late school Head Mupandamabula over Kapenta kuchi poto. Since then, his situation has been worsening.
Ba Jose #47, it is such intolerance to others that makes you view things in a narrow regional spectrum. To you a name outside your region is a ‘juke’ name and does not have to be in government.
So what are the names that are fit to be in government?
#31 libani, the chap was imposed on us after a telephone call in the middle of the night – is that clear!!!!!
You asking a wrong person all together. The way forward guys is education, education,education, education and education and wisdom.
From the Air, Guys discuss serios issues instead of throwing punctures to each other, K70 Billion in Agric cannot be accounted for between 1994-1995 and the Law has decided not punish the offenders. Who was Agric Minister at that time and this is the same period LPM resigned from GRZ. Is there an relation with Mother Daughter appointment for foreign service duties story on the other topic to see Sikatana put off his hut. Remember we are talking of Billions not million.
#46 The Original Pundit
Much as you would agree with me for the first time that it was impossible to remove KK by means of ballot during his first 5 tenure terms as he was unopposed or opposite by frogs (ba chula) and those who did, went mad or died mysteriously like the late Chiluwo. It took time for valiant men of the likes of Shamwana, Brig Gen Miyanda, Brig C Tembo plus others to plot a bloodless coup. Everything was intact and in place until on the 11th hour Sikatana who was supposed to be used in plan B divulged the info to KK. Then afterwards Sikatana has never been a radiant in polical arena and his retirement is welcome though many will follow suit if at all he was rid of on med grounds.
Coming to other point of co-opting family members and friends in sensitive govt position just for protection or creating some dynasty of which you called an “obvious trend†must not ride roughshod over the capable pipo who could be employed on merits and thus, the concerned govt must stop that trend.
Sage, I am 5’10, and weigh about 145 lb. I am a Nurse and make $52,000 a year. I recently bought a house and I am still making payments on it. And I am not a man.
#52 Bauze
Where were you when people were voting?.Did someone also wake you up in the middle of the night with a phone call, to go and vote?. Please we are tired of such lame excuses.
By the way, I responded to your retort on PF MP Mwenya musenge’s pouring of wine on UPND’S Major Robby Chizyuka please read.
#55 56 nabashala why is my question not answered in 54? Can you explain TOP and SAGE? Iwe Kuku where you look a this rot in your country want to rule. bauze ngugi 2 what can we damm learn from you about Sikatana and his profil and legacy? #57 What does this Nurse want him she should to myspace and post her fotos there so that pipo can see her instead of hiding here. Be careful what did she say she bought a house she is still paying.
# Ba Joze you are crazy sometimes you say you are 28 then claim to have to school with Chipimo and you were also at chiwala boys.Which is your real age group? Now you talk about the 1969 elections. Do you Zanglish word Konfyu. Why do you want to go next to PHI when you are not yer reap. You are confusion us I wait for Sheli Movie to see live. I came to Interz looking for but I only found Astrida.
Ba Joze(55),a coup is an illegal act and whilst most argue it was the only alternative at the time…it was and is still an illegal act.Stealing becoz you are hungry does not make it right and does not make you a hero either, it makes you a criminal!!
Radiancy in the political arena is very dangerous and always being in the public eye is intrusive and claustrophobic.Unless you have great ambitions as a politician it is better to work quietly and efficiently.
on your point of “co-opting”: bwana Joze in Plot 1 you need friends to survive.you cannot work with strangers whose agenda you are not sure of.Plot1 is not a company where you may HAVE to work with whoever you find!!Even in companies,at a certain level you are at liberty to choose your own team !!In politics “merit” is a very grey area with multiple meanings!!
# 59 EASY
Mwaice wandi Easy, I think icisunga cilakupita sana when reading postings yapa blog. It’s Pragmatist who taught together naba Snr Chipimo in Chinzongwe. Am aged 28, born on 18/07/1979 and blacklisted from Chiwala boys for having a lot of money and refusing eating beans. Data on 1969 election kuti wayigeta muma librabry. Coming on Sheli movie, Kuku and co are editing. Easy mufana wanga, nayenda pa interz mukupanga tea yakandolo plus nefimpushi… limbi kuti nashitako tractor mutila ati “John Deer or McFurgason”. Link up at 24 hrs
Christy(56),you are quite heavy…146lbs??!!
What ever gave you the impression this page is an ideal hunting ground for a man ??I’m sure any prospective man would be more inclined to give you the time of day if you consistently contributed to the threads and illustrated as evidence, an above average level of intellect.As it stands now, you can easily be percieved as a rather desperate nurse using an annual salary of $52,000 and a mortgage as inticement.Zambian men are great guys but never make the mistake to think they are stupid!!
I know that there`s a general tendancy amongst us human beings to always apportion blame on another individual.LPM has the right and is his presidential prerogative to appoint or disappoint anyone serving in his cabinet.People are so much against LPM that even when one has a hicup(umuntekunteku),then it`s obviously LPM`S fault.On this score,I think he needs a massive break from all cheap RHETORIC.
Citizen
By Diplomatic characteristics I meant has he been seen to be good at diplomacy? You need that as Foreign Affairs minister. Elyo ba Original pundit you should put your facts on the table instead of hiding in mythical defences. I know Kabinga Pande. He may be your relative he is a journalist of old times. He reached Form 2. What school did he go to?
Pundit 146lb @ 5’10 is not heavy, infact she can be considered skiny.
#56 Christy could you tell us why you are particulary interested in Zambian men. I should worn you before hand. In Zambia Men rule. We dont cook, we dont do loundry, we dont baby sit and we dont clean the inside of the house.One more thing we dont even know what the kitchen looks like. So aqueint yourself with the Zambian culture before you get yourself in something you can not handle. On the positive note, We are none violent, we care and we provide for the family.
#54 Ba Easy
The Agric Minister then was Guy Scott. The same Guy Scott who is Sata’s right hand man. Those days Guy came up with all sorts of ways to swindle money from Government.He was raising porkers on his farm, when the price was dipressed. Ordered all pigs slughtered and compensation paid by government citing an out break of swine fever in southren province. This was despite the prescence in swine fever in the Eastern Province for decades.
#64 Neuter
Diplomacy is simply public relation at elevated to an international level, it is sometimes referred to as international relations.Kapinga Pande was pulic relations practitioner at the Bank of Zambia for ages. He will fit in naturally at Foreign Affairs
FORMER finance permanent secretary Stella Chibanda’s father, Adrian Mumba has asked Lusaka High Court judge Japhet Banda to join him to the London High Court judgment proceedings regarding the seizure of his farm.
This is a case in which the Attorney General of Zambia took out a civil suit against former president Frederick Chiluba and 19 others who were alleged to have defrauded the Zambian people.
London High Court judge Peter Smith has since found the defendants liable and the judgment has been registered in the Lusaka High Court awaiting enforcement to recover the money that was stolen.
According to an affidavit in support of summons for a joinder of party, Mumba stated that he was the registered owner of a property known as subdivision 9/L/Farm 34a, which he purchased on October 13, 1974.
“That I have come to learn from my daughter Mrs Stella Mumba Chibanda and numerous media reports that my property has since been attached to satisfy the judgment of the London High Court in relation to my daughter Stella Mumba Chibanda, which judgment has since been registered in the High Court for Zambia,†Mumba stated.
“That being the registered owner of the said property, the said attachment is prejudicial to me because I have not been given chance to be heard on the matter and further, it is a violation of my right to property as the property was acquired long before the circumstances giving rise to the proceedings and judgment of the London High Court of Justice of Chancery Division arose.â€
Mumba stated that in the interest of justice, he was seeking an order to join him to the proceedings since he would be an affected party.
“It is only fair that I be heard on the matter as a party,†he stated. “That I depose these facts verily believing the same to be true and correct to the best of my knowledge.â€
Among those co-accused with Chiluba include Cave Malik and Company, Xavier Francis Chungu (XFC), Attan Shansonga, Stella Chibanda, Aaron Chungu, Bimal Thaker, Faustin Kabwe, Francis Kaunda, Boutique Basile, Nebraska Associates Limited, MISSL Associates Limited, Hearnville Estates, Jarban SA, Raphael Soriano Katoto, Belsquare Residence, NV Roland Cracco and Robert Standaert.
Citizen says:
#4 Bauze
I could have corrected you yesterday,but I was busy replacing two rotor blades and external top housing.The housing registered an 0.03 inch hairpin fracture.The delay was in weighting and balancing the opposing blades to operate at maximum or reduced velocity.In our field we have to be precise and accurate, there is no room for a second or third opinion.
Back to your post yesterday, nowhere in my contribution did mention or indeed call someone a mad dog.
It is true both Nsanda and Musenge reactions to their fellow MP was brutish, irrational and devoid of intellect.
I believe you a Medical Doctor and if this is how you manage your patients ailments, prescribing treatment based on wrong investigation and conclusions – then God help them.
August 23, 2007 @ 8:57 am
Citizen says:
#Bauze
By the way these repairs were for a being 737 engine of South African Airways which had sucked in birds when descending for landing.
August 23, 2007 @ 9:00 am
67 Citizen
Yes he was a Public relations Manager but in the second republic leading to the third rep those jobs were token and there was no Public Relations school in Zambia. And did he do a good job? Remember what I said at 44
68 SAGE we want to hear the judgement not who is to be charged or want to root the nation of more money. Has he paid or not what going in Zambia Bakabusha.
69 Citizen you an aero engineer are you the one who worked on the Buffalo plane that crashed on the coast of Gabon killing Ucar and Mhone including Mwitwa and Makinka.
Who is this Christy now on the blog?She says,she earns 52000usd a year.Gentlemen,a nurse getting these lots of dollars.Alebepa.This is four thousand plus a month amounting to 19million plus zam kwacha.Kabepeko banoko.you think we are stupid.you are just a stranded Zimbabwean looking for how to get to Zambia.so dont waste time just come to zambia no one will bother you.As the brethrens have said,we are a christian nation.so if you start by telling lies,you wont enter the the christian nation.
#73 Wanyanya this christy need deliveration Arch Millingo she said on the other blog that she was married a Zambian and guy died. I think this is a GAY trying to destroy our reach culture. You know this how these quacks start to invade other peace loving nations they will on one hand holding the bible and begging for help whilst at nite they busy search for ermaralds. I dont think we need inter marriages now we have enough Zed women
#71 mwaiche EASY… In my posting there is a paragraph i would have loved you to read and i will quote from there “Mumba stated that he was the registered owner of a property known as subdivision 9/L/Farm 34a, which he purchased on October 13, 1974.
“That I have come to learn from my daughter Mrs Stella Mumba Chibanda and numerous media reports that my property has since been attached to satisfy the judgment of the London High Court in relation to my daughter Stella Mumba Chibanda” This the reason i brought the article here from POST. How does property bought in 1973 and owned by someone other than the accused become evidence for a plunder case that took place between 1995 – 2000. This paragraph just exposes how inept the prosecutors are in this case. At the end of it all Smith will regreat ever getting involved with these inept chaps.
#68 SAGE.Why do we have such an incompetent Attorney General(MALILA) who doesn`t seem to know what he`s doing?Can someone please save us from further embarassment.
Easy Boyi# 74 walanda bwino tatwamukonkelele.
Wanyanya(73), 52,000 per annum with a mortgage and a dead chap on her cv is not at all inviting!!At 66kg she sounds well fed so its not food she is looking for!! You must admit “she” is very brave: looking for a dude in a war zone!!i would understand if her appeal appeared in the lifestyle section but she chose Basra/Baghdad to post her appeal!!Given that she is a nurse she might as well post her cd4 and viral load data for the period before and after her husband died, to ally fears of being a possible serial killer!!
Wanyanya… If she is RN in the states they make way over $52K
Guys,#78 and#79 you’ve been blacked out through white wash already?
#76 Chapi….The way things are going i dont think Malila is going to lust. He is having problems with the judge because he wants to keep adding information to the submissions. Once the judge closes the arguments and reserves the date for judgement you cant go back and say hey Judge i forgot something.Smith acted on information provided by Malila and company little did he know that these guys dont do any investigations. I think they get their data from the media. How do explain a farm purchased in 1973 being part of property purchase used plundered money in 1996? somebody is not doing their job.
Ba Sage(81), have you ever had the unfortunate experience of dealing with the land registry section at Min. of Lands? Are you aware the investigations at that ministry included the unauthorised amendments to registry records as well as the disappearance of “court active” documents ??.When reading some of these articles should we be so easily convinced that a person who is appointed AG can be SO incompetent that simple things like what has been reported has been TRULY overlooked?? just a thought!!
I wish to let bloggers aware of the fact that LPM`s bootlickers aren`t as stupid as people might want to think.When they bring up Christy an imaginary person,the whole purpose is to divert our attention from important issues that are under deliberation.Just remember that whenever we spend any time on CHRISTY then we`ve fallen in the trap of these DEMAGOGUES with their cheap propaganda.Otherwise,Christy and such LUNACY belongs to the lifestyle section.
##74 SAGE, Dont call Mwaiche like Ba Joze who was born when I was already in school.Looking at your foto on ukzambians the face is family. Sage the problem this article is not mentioning where the Farm is because recently I remember a judge visit Kabwe together with KAKA over the same Stella issue which was deserted. How come here is another farm coming in this case. Gentlemen we should learn something from Zimbabwe where they are in crisis. Land is not something to play around. Second to religion has caused most bloodsheds on this earth i.e Palestine. on 10th August AG stayed putted the ruling saying was going to bring more evidence. SAGE bads news sells better a strategy the Post has been following very well. There is no mention of which judge is sitting banda or Chinyama. You they are two cases going on concurrently. A farm can be resaled here we need more truth. This Kafupi will and his cronies will not stop milking us they judges just need to end the case like what Pakistan has…
ctd.. done to th former prime minister and chief justice. The case has been draging. By the way I think this Mumba Malila was at the High school I went and must have been one of incompetent prefects of the time if not mistake food minister. Who can check is cv and profile? We must this Attorney. What has the Public prosecute has to say about this case.
#83 Chapi I hope she/he is kicked out. Lets concentrate on the real issues I have already mentioned above. Thanx for the answer of Swine fever and Gury Scott. I was scared when I saw Simon Zukas on the Post newspaper.
no chapi keep your christy,LPM bootlickers and whatever lunacy you describe is not for lifestyle section.
I would like to correct some things: I was never married to the guy. We were just dating. He went back to Zambia after his mom passed, but he wasn’t allowed back to the United States. He got sick after that (his sister told me he slipped into depression) and died shortly after. And I am not a man, and neither am I gay. All I am trying to do is to find love. Is that too much to ask honestly. Y’all don’t have to be rude.
Truthfully speaking..! I for one do not give a damn as to whom is being promoted or fired! there are all a bunch of fortune seekers that do not give a damn about the welfare of the majority?
christy(88), depression is a serious condition sometimes sorted out by Prozac.Few people die from it unless there was an underlying condition that existed before.Anyway,it is not in my nature to be rude so i apologise if any of my comments seemed so.But do us a favour….go onto the lifestyle pages and continue your search from there.What you are doing on this page is like looking for an honest guy in a maximum security prison facility!
Comrades i still maintain Malila is not as incompetent as we are being led to believe.If it were so i’m sure i would have remembered any public outcry upon his appointment.Could some legal gurus shed some light on what may be going on.
christy! we are not interested in your sad stories! nevertheless we need to come to terms with ourselves? it is high time we stopped living in denial! was the guy ever tested for HIV before he died? i do not understand why we always want to blame “deppression” and yet we know what the real issue was!
Go have yourself tested as dectection is the key! good luck and next time keep your business private, if you do not want other people like myself to get involved?
cheers
#84 EASY in a court situation its not what you know that matters its what you can prove. If Stella spent plundered money on her fathers farm for instance, Can malila prove that. If the records at ministry of lands says that the dad owns the farm, thats all that counts. but you can not prosecute stella on charges plunder in 1998 and put a farm that was bought in 1973 as a product of plundered money. Little wonder Malila wants to delay the judgement. This case has been going on for more than 5 years. isnt that enough time to do the investigations? …. I’m not in anyway suporting Kafupi and his clonies, i could care less. I’m for a fair execution of justice and a non sective application of the fight against corruption. Right now we are talking about K70BN between 1993 – 1994. Is it because Scott is giving LPM headaches thats why they are looking at that particular period? If the investigations are well meant why dont we go all the way from 1992 to date. What happened to ……….
# 60 The Original Pundit
It seems like you have put up a stance of agreeing not to agree to nothing that demand an urgent change of course. Pipo resort to strikes, coups, boycotts when their rights are being taken as inconsequential to fortify their welfare in certain circumstances rather than being docile and waiting for “ fika yisolva†kind of mentality which in long run bears division and deep rooted fear among pipo as being a case in Zim. When pipo say enough is enough twacula pafula, they put up a good fight to champion their goals that would come in either form of protest or outlaw.
Again you disagree that politician are not supposed to be radiant. Honestly who would you capture electorate hearts? The late Andy, Kamalondo, Boldwim Nkumbula, and Kapwepwe were some of the radiant politicians that mark a mile stone in Zambian politics when it came to capturing pipo’s hearts…MSRP.
Coming to the issue of co-opting family members into the govt systems simply entails the rule of law is only applicable on the lips of politicians and grants them maximum protection whatever case they may do. That’s democracy???
UNZA land? where did LPM get K250M to pay FRA. Where did MMD get the money to buy cars for campaigns or sorry from TAX payers money. Until we have un objective approach to the fight against corruption people will always doubt the motive behind the investigations.By the way Nepotism is at the same level as corruption. both vises are detrimental to development. i can justify my point. When the Hon minister for Home affairs died, LPM held the position for Ronny until after by elections for him to come and take over. If that is not nepotism then i dont know what is. i usually root for LPM on the economics front. but he has failed us on the tribal front.
#88 Christy sorry if your fierce die in such a way but pilz be precise give dates when this happened so that we can research about the truth and accomodate in that christian nation. You in Zambia we have a tradition that when one dies even enemies attend his funeral and speeches are made. You can as well mention which part of Zambia is was he coming from. Generall this story could have made headlines. Mention the family we can search archives. Or travel to Zambia and meet one man there here most of us we are hooked a serious with our lifes. All what we are doing here is trying to liberate the economy of our nation from world economics prison. This Mumba The orgin Pundit he has showed incompetented to my surprise he has produces some law journals. Iam afriad of the young law professions.
SAGE this Mumba Malila is born in 1964 at independence Iam wondering why he is not David, Kenneth or Kaunda because this was a common name given to children born at time. I want data about this guy I know he was at UNZA but we need more about him. Kuku where are Leta data about AG he is leting us down.
Info Radio news 10 Hrs this morning
Policeman dies, 8 injured
A Police Officer died on the spot, while eight others were injured in a road accident on Lusaka’s Great East road.
The accident occurred, Thursday morning as the officers were being dropped at various points to provide security to President Mwanwawasa.
President Mwanawasa was on his way to the International Airport enroute for Livingstone.Police Spokesperson, Bonny Kapeso confirmed the accident to ZNBC news.He said the van carrying the police officers over-turned at Hybrid Roundabout, after the driver lost control of the vehicle.
Mr. Kapeso identified the dead officer as Constable, Collins Mwiinga of the mobile unit.
Sage(94),remember when unionists where the most influential in the country.Newstead Zimba held the all important Home Affairs portifolio becoz FTJ trusted him.A host of unionists formed the “inner circle” and were often in conflict with the financiers who were another clique in govt.You work with who you can trust especially in politics…thats life, so live with it!!FRA..are you telling me a president cannot come up with a meagre K250m considering his salary and allowances?He pays no bills and also gets per diem!Do not forget LPM was a wealthy man even before Plot 1 !!MMD vehicles..ask Cobra,FTJ & co. to explain that one.LPM was still asleep when they were purchased.Over UNZA land, even i want some answers on that one, but I would shut up if given a piece also!When you talk of tribalism..did you ever notice how Americans of Irish descent got plush postings during Clintons rule or how Texans have got the biggest share of the spoils after the invasion of Iraq?
Ba Joze(93), i quote from your submission:
“Again you disagree that politician are not supposed to be radiant. Honestly who would you capture electorate hearts? The late Andy, Kamalondo, Boldwim Nkumbula, and Kapwepwe were some of the radiant politicians that mark a mile stone in Zambian politics when it came to capturing pipo’s hearts…”
Ba Joze i quote from mine:”Radiancy in the political arena is very dangerous and always being in the public eye is intrusive and claustrophobic.Unless you have great ambitions as a politician it is better to work quietly and efficiently”
Ba Joze, all those radiant politicians you have cited have ONE thing in common: THEY ARE DEAD !!!
# 93 ba Joze from now nowards start respect me because you are my junior brother. And if you are a school drop out you should respect me even more because I have acquired education thru hard efforts.
President Mwanawasa said he was elected as Republican
President by the people of Zambia who wanted him to
assume powers in the Constitution. He added that the
Zambian people wanted him to assume all the powers in
the Constitution and those powers included the
appointment of ministers.
“From the team of legal advisers, we have George
Kunda, a former president of the Law Association of
Zambia and a state counsel. We have in my team justice
Mumba Malila as Attorney General and is also state
counsel. We have Sunday Nkonde, Solicitor General, who
is also a state counsel. At State House we have
Darlington Mwape, including myself lawyer wa ma
lawyer,†President Mwanawasa bragged.
This man is drunk with power and is living in ivory towers.Levy has been sick both in mind and physical and cannot use Mundia’s sickness as a reason to retire him,this might sound as an infringement of labour laws, how long has the man been sick? And when do you declare one for medical discharge?
Eastern power # 91 why do always think that people in Zambia can only die of Aids? You mean depression cant lead to someone’s demise. What killed chungu’s wife. Life expectancy in Zambia was below 50 in 1985, so why were people dying so young? Just shut up if you have nothing sensible to say
ctd from #101 ,may be we give him the benefit of doubt it could have been done in consultation with Mundia , no one has those facts but to publicly announce and give reason for his dropping leaves much to be desired.This LAWYER WAMA LAWYERS deserves more symphathy than anger.Citizen mwaice tell us about the K70bn that cant be accounted for ?when you add all these revelations Zambia is a rich country in resources such that we dont need donor participation in budgeting.Iam now doubting how the credebility of our budget cos the amount stolen year in year out runs in trillions,Magande should really clean the house in liason with the Anna Chifungula the great.
#83 Mwaice Christy what nationality are you?You seem serious with your requests, have ever heard of the ‘MOONIES’please try and locate Maria Sung Millingo , she will be an asset to your search otherwise these lads on this blog are preoccupied with Zambia’s development, marriage for now is secondary.BaJoze may be she can come to Ndola
#101 Kuku ku Ndola bushe where is the Medical report? Is it not this man who was LPM in Ghana for AU summit recently. What does the Solicitor General do these are dominant pipo just getting paid for nothing? I have never heard him talk.
#Kuku leta Data about this Mumba Malila.He is leting us down.
# 99 The Original Pundit
Mukaamba, be in charge nomba naya mukupanga tea pa interz target nkwete kucita tractor ilya mwita ati “John Deer” ala twanaka ukulima ne nkasu…By the way The Original Pundit, tell my esteemed customers that a cup of tea has increased by 10%, coffee by 15%, kandolo 100%, bread 5%, ichimpushi 50%.
#100 mwaice Easy, I have never been told to rewrite thesis or prolong my stay mu diaspora coz of rewriting thesis over and over. How come you are Easy when your edu is thru HARD EFFORTS? Nishi tayapaka te? Mwaice abena Gardener, Gates tabanua ink,so ndeka netemba yandi. Lesa akupale.
#104 Mwaice Easy,sunday Nkonde has been silenced, there was a time he differed with Chuchu and since then he is a passenger in the VW Golf afola fye ifya lutu.If you cant beat them join them.
Ideally a Solistor General is a govt advocate but else where it is a position in govt dealing with legal affairs in different govts
Christy took for that Irish woman married recently to a Zambian man last we. Google it by recently married.
Kuku wafika pesa na editing ya Sheli? Abena Musonda baciposela ka email but nalabasolva…
Iwe Kuku, ka m’dala Pragfimofimo takaleufwika limbi nabakasumbula ukuba chief waba Shushushu or nakayipula vacant position mu forex. Any we need that ka m’dala to translate “Chekisoni”. Link up mailo naya mukwafwako Astrida ukupanga tea.
Ba Joze(106) kabiyeni mu baze!! Mfalanga ya John Deere ilefwayika fastele!!
#110 BaJoze abena Musonda bali serious bushe teti tubacite incorporate pantu iyi project we can even lobby from SADC so that these films can be viewed in the region.BaJoze aka ka muntu pragfimomo kaliponta sana ati ifwe babili combined tetitushite John Deere tractor, by the way find out who the neighbour to Peter Machungwa is in Lusaka West, whatever your answer that is ka Prag fimomo ati kalisungapo kamambala nomba kabelenga fye Oxford Dictionary mu diaspora with thick spectacles. BaJoze Sheli nafika pa page 120, nomba muli Tusensele na Pio na Vera nafika pa page 45 na 77, elo muli Ubuntungwa mujambo jambo nafika pa page 80,Inga inkwashi part 11 bushe mwalyamba ukubelenga? BaJose aka ka muntu Pragfimofimo abaice kuti bapona inga twafwako mucisungu pantu ama satndards pa Zed musukulu nayawa bad kind.Elo kalyakambi aka tabo ati “Kalulu anonka” bushe kalishele ku kabwe nangu nakaluba? Check mu brief case yenu
#110 TOP you are a true Zambian because of your language yapa Secondary school “Mfalanga ya John Deere ilefwayika fastele!! meaning fast. Nomba Ba Joze asked about what does the word Chisokone? Namulaba that Man with a white Handichief aya kwisa ulya Mudala walefwalala ama Safari suits. Awe mwandini Zambia chalo cesu.
Terri ulichipuba iwe number 102! continue living in denial? Tell me of a zambian funeral where relatives have disclosed that their loved died of HIV?and Who I am to know what chuungu’s wife died of anyway? The next thing you will tell me is that FTJ is also suffering from depression… wa chipuba iwe? can you tell me why the life expectancy has dropped to 38 yrs?
UPND is now on a path to leadership and patriotism. Demagoguery as some are doing has neither political future nor mileage. Bravo UPND for your magnanimity! Henceforth count yourselves valuable because the MMD Party and administration has an inclusive leadership to national value.
ZAMBIA’S SECOND LARGEST OPPOSITION PARTY TO COOPERATE WITH GOV’T
Zambia’s second largest opposition party said it will work with the administration instead of criticizing it, Zambia Times reported on Thursday.
The United Party for National Development (UPND) spokesman Ackson Sejani was quoted as saying that criticizing politics has gone long.
He said UPND president Hakainde Hichilema has brought about a new style of leadership in Zambia’s politics and wanted to work for the development of the country.
Sejani, who is also UPND chairman for elections and campaign, said many Zambians had a wrong notion that for as long as a political party was in opposition, it should criticize whatever the ruling party was doing, saying the country’s second largest opposition party will shun that kind of politics.
“We have brought maturity in the way we handle politics. Zambians are used to insulting each other. We are engaging with the government firmly but politely. The country has spent too much time squabbling over pretty issues,” Sejani said.
#113Mwaice Iwe “Amaka ku bena Chipata” KK did this at his son’s funeral Masuzyo walaba shani ,its only now that AIDS death certification is not written ati died from Aids they write the last disease that occured pa last ingani Pneumonia cp, they will state that, inga ni TB they will write that but in the late 80’s and early 90’s they were writing Imunity defieincy syndrome.
#115 Kuku Naisa veteran he was very busy kaili Bacimubika muchibe pamulandu wa Accident this Morning which claimed a police officer Mwiinga. #114 Veteran we are waiting of your contribution here when did Mundia get sick. Elo we need data yakwa Mumba Malila he is become a nonsense he needs liberation.
#114 Mwaice Veteran, where do you live?Its only in Africa where the ruling govt is always at loggerheads with the opposition.the question you must ask yourself why is it so? Answer me then can blog.The opposition much alike the ruling govt their sole objective is to serve the electorate, so their polices must be those that mean well,and the ruling party must no show supreme over the opposition they learn to compliment and criticise correctively not deamining and name calling like what your uncle has been doing? Imwe baice nayama obe you need to go and alot of PR/Pyschology courses even ama cert since mulifikopo sana, degree teti mukwanishe
# you dont know the meaning of life expectancy. Get facts from scientific publications if you have any edu, not newspapers. Was just telling you there are more causes of death than Aids, and you arguing with that. What are leading causes of adult death since 1990 and projected to 2020?
Have nothing to say about FTJ. But all teh crap mmembe and others were saying is bullshit. Believe what you like coz thats what semi illiterate people do-speculate and speculate all day. So whose the fool.
#116 Mwaice Easy ici Ci Veteran namposamabwe tacaliko ca specialise mu copy and paste , no wonder ifimenso fyalikashika kwati ni ngoshe.Mwaice cita ilya IP trace indefwaya ukuya cimona ci Veteran, Paparrazi,Patriot, Pragfimofimo.Nawishiba ifi fi baice nifimuselela kwakaba,akasuba ingakawa ku masamba fyaya ku kabanga
#118 Terri ine shaaya kusikululu can you explain life expectancy? Maybe we can learn something from you. Terri nokukwata cifukushi ba Blog be clam and say your thoughts and facts.
LPM has brought alot of decency in the civil service? all the dubious government suppliers have disappeared..well done LPM! The tender board should be next. To the New AG, make your money whilist you can? This is zambia…why do you think all these money hungry politicians are in Power! To make money …!
lila mwaiche it your turn… moreover we are entitled to copper! if you get the chance…..make as much money as you can and let Ba Joze do the debts?
cheers
#119 How agent is this as I told you will be busy until the 30.08 I will minimise blogging. I can trace him.
Inflation Rate Reaches 7,635% In Zimababwe
Think inflation is through the roof in the United States? Let’s be thankful we’re not in Zimbabwe, where the world’s leading annual inflation rate rose to 7,635% in July. Two months earlier, the inflation rate was “only†4,530%
Its astronomical inflation numbers are due to a combination of food, gas and foreign currency shortages, plus the government’s aggressive printing of money to pay debts.
Thats really galloping inflation. Whats going on in Zim?
#124 ask Envoy Bell what he intends about this`?
Iwe Terri… which part of zed are you living in or talking about! I grew up in lusaka Chilenje and i can attest that there is no family that i know of in zambia that has not been affected by HIV! directly or indirectly! people have lost their parents, siblings, uncles, aunties, cousings, neighbours? open your educated eyes, do more research? HIV and other opportunistic infections are the leading causes of adult death in Zambia.
If you have not been affected by it, it’s a matter of time as we are venerable! have you ever wondered what killed most of the former MMD ministers…the chawingas, the mushotas, lupungas, mwiingas,…depression ..you are right! welcome to 2007!
Kuku .. if i may ask! do you and ba Joze have wives! if so who keeps them entertained as you guys are forever blogging! just out of curiosity… no offense?
Usual hot topics bring alot of confusion. To agree with Eastern power, Aids is still by far the leading cause of mortality in adults, directly or indirectly. But, I also agree the debate about life expectancy is simplified. Nsemukila, former CSO director, has been in argument with the UN about this. Every child born in Zambia faces a LE 41 years. It increases to 44 between 1-4 years (i think the reasons is infants face particularly higher risks of death than toddlers).
When a Zambian reaches 10, LE drops to 40, and then drops to 36 for 15-9 age group. I think the speculation is that Aids risk kicks in after 15yrs.
So, if LE is years of expected life at birth, then correct figure is probably 41. I also note the UN is drastically revising their estimates after the projections of hiv have been found exaggerated. Earlier on i pointed that in Zim they estimated 35% prevalence but the 2005 survey data shows 19%. If you do same for Zambia at 12%, LE goes up slightly. Thats my take…
Thanks Francis, your explaination is well understood!
# 128 Francis what is life expectancy. Is what I expect from my life like get married, having children, ,money, a ddecent job, education etc. What is LE Francis help. How are calculating this ages?
Ba Easy, you know exactly what the gentleman is talking about! I am surprised you have elected not to understand number 128 and yet you always seem to obsorb whatever comes out of kuku and Ba Joze! just read his response a couple of times…. you will get it, or let kuku explain further…? kuku where are you ! Easy needs your common sense!
#114 Ngugi wa bwela ageni…whats wrong with you?#98 #98 Pundit LPM paid the K250M before he became president. this was during the 2001 campaigns. At which point he was practically broke. So where did he get the money? Since agree that LPM is a compromised president when it comes to the fight against corruption. its safe to say he is corrupt. You also supporting the high levels of nepotism displayed by LPM. Honestly we will have to do a complete investigation on plunder from 1964 – 2011 if we really want to know the truth. LPMs selective application of the fight on corruption and the high levels of nepotism have weekened him.
Easy, as i said, it seems to me that people refer to different things when they talk about LE. So Terri has to define what his understanding of it. I was just trying to outline the calculation procedure so as to unbundle the sources of confusion. Every country has a census database in which death and births are recorded. From that data you have populations in age groups, say 0-1, 1-4, 5-9…, 60-64, etc. Each of these categories faces different LEs because the risks of death are also influenced by age (+ the things you mention). The LE of a 70 yo is probably 2 years in Zambia, but thats not useful, we care about LE of the young. Demographers aggregate LE for all groups and give you a single number. But thats not really LE.
However, if we take the conventional definition, which is expected years of life at birth, then we take the LE of 0-11 months, which happens to be 41 for Zambia.
Technically, life expectancy means the expected time remaining to live, and it can be calculated for any age. So Francis you mean if Iam 35 I have 41 more years to gone which makes it 86 years then I will become an old man than God. How about this ? Life expectancy is the average number of years a human has before death, conventionally calculated from the time of birth. Very misleading. Maybe to be precisely we should talk about birth rates and death rates. If you say the death rates are high in poor country then i will to your thesis. More Eastern power according to your UN statistics Malaria is the killer nr.1 of humans in Zambia not HIV or Aids.
#127 Mwaice ifwe Batata na Bamayo balifwa so naifwe tuli ma widows na baJoze,wamona te?
#Easy Mwaiche fili urgent, indefwaya ukwashima ko John Deere or Marsey ferguson planter kabili season yalatampa,chop chop mwaice.
#135 KUKU widow kamo nga mukashi ufwile. Elyo teti tu kwite at umwana wanshiwa if you are an adult. that is only applicable kids who needs parental support. My condolences.
Easy who are you supposed to believe! the UN statistics or people that live in zambia! It just as good as telling me that the zambian economy has improved ever since LPM took office! yes of course on paper, and which of course ….is not the reality!
Anyway we are entitled to our own opinions!we all do have different perceptions about the world!
Yes Easy, reamining time from the day you are born. But, Easy how did you get the 86?
There are relatively very few malaria deaths among adults, no more than 3,000 per year.
EASTERN POWER your sentiments are not true its like what the west about Africa that everyone sick is suffering from AIDS. This conflict of interest to undermine and press down others.In 2004 I went to my Home village only one person was sick of HIV all other looked health. What you are anyone whohad sex is infected or anyone has children is a hiv positive. The west the put conditions to Africans in everything. Have you asked yourself why them dont declare open about their HIV status but for Africa everyone is a suspect No bwana Eastern power. I lost my best friend in 1998 because of HIV. Remember HIV aware in Zambia goes back as early as 1983.
Kuku… it either you hate him or you like him? I appreciate your humor ba mudala! i have to go now, before my mutototo runs out in my blood stream! i took it about five hours ago during my lunch break?
#136 So who are we? Kabili uyu mwaice waku Chipata nasakama ati lyonse tuli pa blog abakashi tubashile kwisa? SAGE that is Kaponya language if you came to Masala or Kulima tower and ask one of those street kids that is the response you always get?Orphan doesnt exist in Kaponya language.Uyu Mwaice waku Chipata afwile alitemwa sana sex,ukumucheckinga alina bana 30 pantu he is always on the wife.But when you look at his the chap is only 27,where are you heading to? Give your wife a break and stop following Dr Manda’s advice on usage of mutoto ukafwa in saddle.Ask Bauze to book you for Vasectomy, because Levy very soon will denounce you when you fail to pay PTA fees. Happy now mwaice #127? Ask another question.
For your own information, my wife is one who types for me when blogging because I have no arms, how is that?
Kuku we send by ku Kabwe roundabout if you coming from Central police in Lusaka turn right there they sell A TRACTORS. Any ask for invoices of veteran. I will try my best Mamabala he is also in the field he is hiding. Last time he brought statistics data of LT on the blog and he was emphasising that he knows every thing and he can see thru computer.
EASY this is the definition LE. The number of years that an individual is expected to live as determined by statistics.
There is a lot of factors that goes into estimating the LE of a country. The range from economics, to social conditions prevailing in given geographical location. IT DOES NOT MEAN NOR CAN IT BE INTEPRETED LITRALY THAT ZAMBIAS WILL ONLY LIVE TO 38 YEARS. These are scientific indicators. like Francis tried to explain a child between 0 – 1 is at a higher risk than someone between 10 – 15. HIV,Malaria, poverty, availability of medical facilities you name it have an effect on Z LE.
EASY…. no offense ! try sleeping with three or four ladies without a condom in zambia and see if you wont get it!
we living in different society now and not 1983? don’t make me laugh! which village did you go to? and did you happen to test the health looking? Well, my friend it’ nice that we are able to talk about issues affecting our communities? have to go now,thanks and bye for now…!
#143 We had Eastern power bringing confusion here so i decided to kick out nomba aya he drunk Viagra or Mutoto he has to meet the wife. SAGE you must have know me by now how I go about pipo with no facts. Francis has done agood job on calculation and SAGE you just added the other right criterials. So we can concentrate on the topic of Mundia, Mumba Malila and Sunday Nkonde
#144 Eastern power as early as 1983 AIDS awareness was made for the whole family . If you dont use Condoms and stick to one pattern then its your fault.
Kuku seriously give me your address or private bag or c/o ba joze..!and will send you some truck trader magazines that display “tractors, farming equipment, semi-trucks on sale from USA. I have a good friend that would be willing to forward them to you at no cost at all! I am not bemba at least you can trust me?
Easy..!how do you know that your partner will only stick to you! echo tufwila…trust!
: ; . Measures the total number of age categories left to be lived by all individuals who survive to the beginning of age category .
: ; . Life expectancy, which is the mean number of age categories remaining until death for individuals surviving to the beginning of age category .
For all , . This means that the total expected lifespan increases monotonically. In effect, the age of death of older individuals is a distribution conditioned on the fact that they have survived to their present age
: ; . Measures the total number of age categories left to be lived by all individuals who survive to the beginning of age category
: . Midpoint survivorship, which measures the proportion of individuals surviving to the midpoint of age category . Note that the simple averaging formula must be replaced by a more complicated expression if survivorship is nonlinear within age categories. The sum gives the total number of age categories lived by the entire study population
Mwaice Easy citako nomba ama series waibukisha tefyo? Iwe Eastern to the Power Mwaice wilanwa mutoto ku nchito ukayaikata Ba George Mpanga mumusana akucita ama series spare your wife Mwaice she is also human,she deserves enough rest
#149 Ama formula yaluba guys , Ba Borniface Kabaso ninshi iyi blog yenu taisuminisha ama formula?
#147 Mwaice wandi cita fast fast email iyo
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Indefwaya ukujombolola uyu mambala beta ati Pragfimomo bawishi mwaice ebanonka ku Lusaka West nao ati alinonka? Filya abaice pa Unza balecita, bayamawakwe just becoz balekwata muzulu ebo alelanda ati eba tata Bawishi abakwamwacisompola ati ebayama so naka Pragfimofimo cimo cine
guys there is another article Chuch aleilishanya
#149, if you dont mind explain why you say the total expected lifespan increases monotonically (is this in all age ranges?). Obviously the essential parts of your submission are cut out.
#150 Kuku this WordPress you cannot put formulas on it and the author is Luka Cvrk his website is solucija.com
Kuku, Veteran is diverting to other server I know these tricks. I will other sophicated means.
Alalefisama ayi
#149 Monotonically, For instance,if we take the one-year-olds look at their average age at death and then compare to a certain factor for newborns. In effect, the age of death of older individuals is a distribution conditioned on the fact that they have survived to their present age.
#153 &154 catch him so that we can find him atuchusha na copy and paste yapali chuchu alecita kwati ni chi sister cakwe chi Easther Nakawala
Ewe Ka Kuku (147),
So usebenzesa mutototo kuyimya kadoli kako? Now i understand why you have been befriending me and oftenly disappearing from home for hours leaving me with your filthy but loose wife too my test. I didn’t realise until now that you have shown some natural manhood defects hence addiction to the scarce mutototo.
Be careful though of a heart attack.
It seemed counter-intuitive to me that total expected lifespan should increase monotonically when it actually falls at least above age 14, in most of Sub-Saharan Africa.
So if you are an infant(under 1yr), your probability of death at an age say 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, etc., conditional on having survived to that age, actually falls, monotonically. Not increase! Take any 2 persons A(10 years) and B(20 yrs), chances are A will live longer than B. This is pretty trivial. But take C(1.5 yrs) and D(3 yrs), its not clear who lives longer than the other. This does not obey monotonocity principle. I think the curve tilts at about 12-15 years.
Trust me Easy (153),
Ulichikopo sana. No wander you have intruitive child birth deficiencies too reflective in your writing. What would a person be hiding from in blogs especially if he is on GRZ side? What would GRZ fail to do that you think you can out do them? Not being malicious, you are dumb and of limited abilities. Is it illegal to speak from a Government supporting platform? I’m keen to see how you will take handle the going. And you think Veteran has something to fear from you? You are an ***** heading to eat your own amafi.
#157 mwaice Shaka zulu us we are widows so there is no motivation to use any of those.You mean you get attracted to dead people? My wife is dead, strange enough no wonder ndi we Shaka Zulu (the savage)you are the chaps who descrate graves in South Africa,that Siphyllis you have will never get cured,now see its getting to your brain, stop patronising graveyards and mortuaries.I must thank the person who introduced you to LusakaTimes cos atleast you are being preoccupied with blogging ,this time you should have been sniffing on fresh graves of all dead women near Chris Hani hospital.You need serious cleansing ask Veteran where Dr Sondashi stays?
Atleast him he can exorcise you totally.Nayenda ku gona nikakupeze mailo ninshi wasamba wamvela iwe chipondo
#159 please dont sink so low,your message is not for this blog and especially from you.For my own sake please use palatable language.
#157 Mwaice naiclapanga payroll yama workers nomba nayamukutusha.but remember not to go back to your bad habits ask Mwaba from Ireland what else you can do, okay, wanvela mufana Shaka the fetish child.Gnite
kuku… mudala! i have forwarded the email address for the contact person in PA USA. No middlemen involved, he willl connect you directly to the sellers.
Get in touch if you fail to get a response from him. i shall provide you with another used truck trader in PA USA.
#163 Eastern Power, many thanks I will get in touch but now mwaice your whereabouts, I know you are in the USA give your number or drop me an email then we can pick it up outside the blog.Great,that is what we want action not gossiping like Pragfimofimo na chi Veteran with dentures all over his mouth bundabwa ma copy and paste
#133 Francis,what is your life Expectance?
Mwaiche Kuku,
Don’t you find it absurd to be venting invectives against my name when I neither think nor engage you? As much as I do understand your mental status and the toll from your internal strife, I still wish you got the healing and play a meaningful role in life.
It’s very clear that immediately you realized that my personality does not walk the path of wishful rhetoric, insults or play kids grove games on national affairs, instantly you went into your epileptic convulsions I have been seeing ever since. All your thoughtless tantrums doing the self destructions are, but out of unbridled ignorance of political combat works and the layer of my skin.
One thing you should learn is that all human beings are political animals without absolute neutrality. FYI, Democracy does not restrain the free people’s right of affiliation. Are individual patrons to this supposedly free discussion blog’s decision processes on choices at your discretion?
Seemingly, that has been your delusion here. Hear once and for all, “you are too weak to impact or succeed in diverting me from my strong valuesâ€. I have no intention of inhibiting logic on anyone here including you in yourself despite your empirically challenged mental status.
If you are irritated with my presence, don’t look at the pieces I post but instead jump to trolls stuck with helpless insults empty dreams. If you want to prove who has more leverage in some sought after battles vicious or otherwise, honorably spare the free people here just signal and the ground will record it to the finish.
Lets put another Zero on this expectance,so we start dying at ages close to 1000 years.
Ba Pragmatist mukalamba ,
Please ignore the poor soul Kuku ranting without self hope. I will handle him with more choking articles.
Personal for Kuku & Chapi,
More from Ba Kateka:
‘DEMOCRACY TO PREVAIL’
PRESIDENT Mwanawasa says his administration will ensure that democracy is allowed to prevail in the country and respected by all who cherish the rule of law.Mr Mwanawasa said without democracy and respect for the rule of law, anarchy would become the order of the day.He urged Zambians not to take peace and security the country has enjoyed since independence for granted but to guard it jealously.
Mr Mwanawasa was speaking yesterday when he officiated at the Zambia Air Force base in Livingstone at the commissioning and wings parade for Officer Cadets.He said Zambia had been an oasis of peace while some of the countries on the continent, including some neighbours, had experienced insecurity.”Our peaceful country has had to carry the burden of hosting our brothers and sisters from these trouble spots by giving them refuge.It is our desire that we lend more effort to peace making efforts so that the continent of Africa can progressively devote more of its resources to economic development,” he said.
He said it was for the same reason that Zambia needed to maintain peace and live in harmony with the neighbours.Mr Mwanawasa said Zambia would neither support nor condone citizens of other countries waging war with one another as this would result in untold misery for Zambians.”Zambia will, therefore, always work towards the promotion of peaceful coexistence in the sub-region,” he said.
The President paid tribute to the Zambia Air Force for the role it had been playing when some districts suffered floods because of torrential rains.He said ZAF provided essential logistical support to the relief efforts of the Government when floods caused considerable damage to both crops and infrastructure.Mr Mwanawasa said his Government had taken measures to mitigate the effects of the floods as well as repair the damaged infrastructure.
He also said his administration was determined to continue with its fight against corruption in all sectors of the economy.The President said Government was aware that if corruption remained unchecked, it was capable of destroying the moral fibre of the nation and undermine Government efforts to revamp the economy.”My Government is committed to continue waging war against this scourge.The fight against corruption is not for Government alone but a responsibility for all Zambians who would like to see our country achieve economic prosperity.
Zambians from all walks of life must partner the Government to ensure that together we win this war,” he said.And Mr Mwanawasa said Zambians should protect themselves against the ravages of HIV and AIDS.He said members of the Zambia Defence Force were vulnerable because the nature of their duty requires them to occasionally be separated from their families.”You need to individually maintain high moral discipline in order to avoid infection.
My Government has allocated huge resources to fight this pandemic, but it continues to ravage our critical human resource which is required to push our economic development forward,” Mr Mwanawasa said.He urged the graduates to utilise their newly acquired skills in working even harder in the defence of the country.”Please remember that Government and the people of Zambia, whom you have sworn to serve, have entrusted into your care very expensive and sophisticated equipment,” he said.
And speaking at the same occasion, ZAF Commander, Lieutenant General Sam Mapala, commended Government and Zambians for the unflinching support rendered to his personnel.Lt. Gen. Mapala said the support had enabled the smooth training of the men and women in uniform in their respective fields of operation.He said his officers were now ready to serve the nation.The ZAF commander urged the graduates to be mindful that their job demanded 24 hour-service.
On arrival in Livingstone, Mr Mwanawasa was welcomed at the Livingstone International Airport by ministers of Defence, George Mpombo, Tourism, Environment and Natural Resources Michael Kaingu, Southern Province Minister Joseph Mulyata, Service Chiefs, senior government officials and party cadres.
#166 Mwaice Pragfimofimo wamona nomba you are english is becoming monotonous you are almost reaching the end of the road in your usage of the queens language.You have been using the same sentences ever since you resurrected from slumber.Nomba umfwa mwaice the essence of these rants is to bring the real out of you.One thing is certain you are not real and you are not genuine.Iam shocked you are claiming to have values,what sort of values do you have? You are just a big failure in life living a dislluisioned world.Pragfimofimo I dont get irritated at your scripts I just sympathise with your afternoon life.You must have lost out during your hay days especially after being a Chalk breaker for so long,your migration into diaspora wasnt that smooth and this continues to haunt you and even now you are still being tormented by your long stay abroad cos you have nothing to vouch for other than reading Oxford/chamber dictionary.If you are real come back to Zambia and let us meet for 2011washout
Shaka Zulu you talk a lot of shit. Let’s fight.
#169 KUKU.The best you can do about such a adisgruntled and certified LPM`s bootlicker by the name VETERAN (Ngugi)#168 is to simply ignore him.These are the chaps that have deliberately decided to detach theselves from reality like his mentor ‘honourable’ Mulyata.Remember how he embarrassed himself at Livingstone int. airport when welcoming LPM,literally UKUFULUKUTA mulukungu and it would be asking too much from these chaps by expecting some objectivity from them.
Ba bamukalamba ba Pragmatist,
ushe mulemona lubangula ofyo lucita abaiche? akakoko (169) ati “my rants are meant to bring the real you out”. Kalefwaya mulekasosha. But what real is coming out here? And he says that you are not genuine for writing off. Haha hahah….,those are very shallow skills of ilicitations right there. Ama schools afunda ilicitations yenge sana mulusaka. Ushe teti kasambilileko aka akoko? Let us meet for 2011? Ushe finshi ekachita inkoko iyi mu 2011 when as a matter of fact,all about 2011 is locked up for the 27 year traditional rule by choice of the mass.Nakafilwa kupanga critical mass nensele shaiko against the people’s party in power in spite of switch into all political parties and taking the flushes out since 1995.Nomba ati 2011 is the dream year. Such dreams are products of a disease Nyanjas call khunyu. You have been very right to say that Nkhuku suffers from some “self depressing internal strife” potentially to worsen his mental status.
I advise you preserve your dignity and time I drive him through some restoration debates. Chako nichako.Kuku chikopo but hey, we have to keep bashing some wisdom on the same empty head for a fillup.
#170 Ba Kataya
This is not a Chinese Kung fu movie where fighting starts without any cause. In any case KUKU has enough ability and dexterity to stand his ground againt Shaka Zulu.
# 172 Veteran nad Pragmatist
Imwe bonse muli mbushi mabwe and that grey hair of yours make you think like crown to spurn you from real world and enclosed in the world of fantasy and being reduced to bootlicking old techniques just to earn a living is absurd at your ages. Despondently you have now fixed your melting brains cheese like into none return fixed mode yielding you with nothing but pride of unidentified itinerary. Do you know that my fellow bloggers need Kuku more than you finished folks? Iwe ka Pragmatist which farms in Chisamba, were you talking about? No body in Chisamba has two farms closer to those pipo you mentioned. Leka ubufi ka Pragfimofimo. You said your child is at UNISA. Do you know that UNISA is equivalent to AZARIA where dull chaps are dragged in just coz someone can part away with stolen cash? If you are rich as you claimed take your children to reputable varsities like Havard, Oxfold, Leeds, Rhodes, Stellanbosch, Witwatersandrand, even our UNZA is better than UNISA.
Wait for my second coming to finish you up.
#171 hahahaha, Iam imagining ka Veteran mulukungu na suit ya red.Mwaice veteran learn to dress properly,red suit,green shoes,shiffon shirt, yellow tie,purple socks and then groving for muwelewele what a gustly sight.where do you take your perdiem when travelling with Chuchu, mwaice when you are in the UK go to Oxford Circus in Central london and dress yourself with quality clothes and then please by some cologne,body odour yingapaye muntu sure
Its good to have people like them on the blog cos they add color.
Considering His Excellency”s own fragile state of health it is about time he fired himself on health grounds.
Sage(132),LPM was not broke in 2001….to the contrary if you must know.It is unfortunate LPM does not come across to all and sundry as clever, but make no mistake he is very shrewd.Ask Christon Tembo and crew who because of him ,survived the noose!!
Selective prosecutions leave a bad taste in the mouth but Sage, that is politics.You have to fwanta your percieved and potential enemies in order to survive.Window dressing prosecutions are a worldwide political phenomenom.We have a duty as citizens to ensure this practise is kept at a minimum by being as vocal as we are.Only a myopic idealist would expect total eradication of the practise.
#177 Original Pundit
You have said as it is. Your words are good hmmm.
#177.THE ORIGINAL PUNDIT.Was it legal for the Chief Justice to accept one of LPM`s property that sits on the land he grabbed from UNZA during the time he declared his assets just before the 2006 elections?
Ba Chapi(179),i’ve actually missed our blog banter as you have been pre-occupied with the “usual suspects” for quite a while !!
This land issue Ba Chapi,alot of people got plots there especially when it became obvious they would never be developed by UNZA.I agree the allocation is somewhat shrouded in secrecy but you have a point in saying the CJ should have declined.As a CJ you must never be seen within 100 miles of controvesy/criminals/adulterous behaviour/plunder/bigamy etc etc. But Ba Chapi…..this is Africa bwana….principles are an option not a criteria for certain positions!!
Chapi (179),
If you don’t know existing facts, it is honorable to ask you will certainly learn the truth from others that know. Which of LPM’s property is on the UNZA land?
It is very clear that you tread on pure ignorance without a clue to what you write, what happened and where the involved land is.
LPM has three properties in Lusaka besides those in Ndola and Luanshya. In Lusaka he has 1 house and 2 mansions all built before 1992 on land he bought from private citizens with Deeds titles signed by the then Commissioner of lands Mark Zulu and Registra of Deeds a Mr Khan now in London.
Follow up with these two ex-officials at Mulungushi House now practicing senior Lawyers.If i may ask you again, where is the same UNZA land located in Lusaka? You have no clue i challenge. Where the land is and where LPM’s Mansion is its almost a mile or two. That undeveloped land is all surrounded by most Zambians of Asian origin. So what the heck have been ranting over 3 months now i have noticed
#180 did you get my answer on MFI? Is it okay with its functions in society or what have you got to say?
#181 Veteran thank you on this one Chapi has over stayed in USA come home baba they say seeing is believing. For the while because of this good inform I will spare by not exposing you. I tell KUKU that he meets you in privacy. The case closed.
Ba Easy(182), i responded in the affirmative albeit with my own reservations.Peruse through that article on Magande and MFI’s…..i’ll catch you there!!
I challenge you to privately reach
Mr. Mark Zulu- Former Commissioner of Lands Neighbor to Sata in Rhodes park
Mr Moyo- Former Surveyor General residing opposite the Italian school in Rhodes Park
Mr.Khan-Former Deeds Registra Now practicing in London
I challenge you to interview these people and then take the interview to the post Newspapers for publication.
Ba Veteran(185),you deserve a standing ovation!!
Ba Easy(182), my response was:
Ba Easy,i was not criticizing but merely encouraging caution.The facts, as you have presented,clearly show the benefits of MFI’s.The proliferation of these institutions in Zambia which doesn’t have a well developed regulatory framework, worries me.The credit culture in Zambia is infantile at grassroot level and it is possible more poverty may result among the all too frequent defaulters we have among us.The interest rate structures the MFI’s are using in Zambia are exploitative and i just don’t see any long term benefits accruing to our citizenry.Would i be wrong to expect the dreaded †borrowing from Peter to pay Paul†syndrome to take root in Zambia??
August 23, 2007 @ 1:07 pm
#69 Citizen, you see, I seriously think you need an urgent consultation – you are exhibiting tangential responses – no one asked you to give any explanation of you whereabouts, more so, even to the extent of giving all the details – symptomatic of “verbosity†or in simple terms verbal diarrhoea!
Your verbosity was a desire to display your expertise, unfortunately you made a mess of it!!
A Rotor blade is a specialised wing or aerofoil( designed to provide lift!) & is not a component of a jet engine, which has “Fan bladesâ€( to blow air & not provide lift) & Turbine blades as parts of it. Their design is very simple compared to the design of a Rotor blade.
So citizen, try not to dig a hole for yourself when it is uncalled for, coz you won’t find many conscientious people to help you out of the muck!!
So you do indeed need a second, third and fourth if not fifth opinions, & my diagnosis, as shown of you, can be very spot on!!
#187 TOP to some extend you are right institutions like microfin are explotive. I hope this newly formed institution back on the original idea of small scale funding. It has worked in Kenya, Indonesia, Argentia etc it can work in Zambia.
If you are true political analyst you will realise that LPM has appointed Mr Pande to Foreign Affairs to pave way for Caleb Fundanga for Presidency in 2011. Pande is expected to defend Fundanga in the run up to 2011 – Watchout the game is on!!
#190 Truly Zambian, this will be history anyway Zambia has surprises first nation for bank govenor to be president. Anyway in Zambia everything is possible the country to turn multiparty in 1990. First country to introduce mobile phones in Africa followed by Nigeria. Zambia is a rolle Model ever peaceful. Kuku here is a challenge for you your fellow mathematican for President. Frankly speaking if Fundanga becomes stands for president I will vote for rotten SAKI with is ISACA case he can be much better. Professional men are not politicians this is what brought down Chiluba. Why then not Dr. Jacob Mwanza for president bakumawa. I was MMD I would feature Phiri the new deputy Minister. What is Siakapwasha going to say. How about Lusaka MMD chairman Mpondela or Chulumanda dont forget what the president said when he appointed him Sport Minister. Pande has done good job at tourism you even see Adverts on CNN on tourism about Zambia. Even in Foreign Newspapers and TV u coulde Zambia the real
ctd. Africa. SAGE, KUKu, Chapi, Veteran, pragmatist, Nkataboy, mwaba, HK, Francis, Gluco, ka Joze, Citizen, bauze, The Original Pundit,Kataya, Pastor Chibwe, wanyanya newcomer, Badala, Observer Christy and Inonge can Fundanga make a go president when we have shortage of cement he is saying its good in global economy. Will this one be another Kafupi or Bob?? Your veiws are required.
number 192? i do not know much about Fundanga! can you please give me a brief history about the man? thanks
#193 Tonga Bull, ask Transparency International Zambia they have records of who is who in Zambia
#192 Tonga Bull, Read this also
Dr. Caleb Fundanga is he current Bank governor of Zambia a. He studied at the UNZA, Manchester and Konstanz University in Germany. He studied Economics and he has a doctor. Mr. Fundanga worked as an advisor to the President of Africa Development Bank in Abijan, Ivory Coast later he was appointed Director of the Africa Development bank for the southern African Countries. There after he has worked as standing secretary in Cabinet office in Lusaka. He has also worked the Finance Ministry. At the same time he lectures at the UNZA in economics. Dr. Fundanga was appointed BOZ governor on the 19.Apirl 2002 to replace Dr. Jacob Mwanza who reached the retirement age of 65 years. His posting to BOZ was just a matter of time but not so early. Since 2002 is a member of the Africa Economic Research Consortium.
Zambia needs an engineer for the top job. Lawyers lie, career politicians lie even more, economists like Fundanga are always watering down the truth. Only an engineer can tell you straight that you are talking nonsense but still produce results. AK Mazoka was a fine example. In fact we need engineers as administrators at FAZ, at our hospitals, in our schools and even in our justice system.
You can tell I’m an engineer right?
#188 Bauze Ngozi,
Citizen says:
#7 Bauze you are more *****ic than I thought.
I belong to a repectable profession where we don’t believe in gilding our lillies.If I must let.. a typical rotor blade is what is found on a helicoptor to provide lift, but certain fighter jet aircraft have enhanced fan bladed called rotors which provide suction when normal and lift when engines are inverted.
The new generation aircraft which carry Rolls Royce and/or General Electric Engines such as Being 737.400s/757/767/777/787 and Airbus AB380 have case hardened and elongated fan blades now called rotors.This design has validated engine performance at high altitude airports during take-off,ground starting and transient operations.The case hardened fan blades now called rotor accasion minium engine damage due to suction of foreign material such as birds or metal debris. Technology is dynamic.
I still maintain that i did not call any one maddog in post.You Misquoted me Just apologise.
Bauze
Goodness-humility is something so simple; it is never to seek one’s own advantage:
In case your memory is clouded this was my original post.
Citizen says:
It is no surprise that Mwenya Musenge could behave like that. Most PF MP are rogues who have no intellect of ability to debate issues rationally.
Like their boss they believe in using brutality and intimidation to get their points across.
shame!!!
August 22, 2007 @ 11:29 am
#197 Citizen, sorry you have lost me, apologise for what?? I didn’t quote you, I read the original article, which you supported – if you go to that article, you will find all its contents. Are you now telling me you supported it after only partially reading it?
If you don’t believe in “gilding your lillies”, how did we get to discussing aerofoil design & its terminology???
As to who is the *****, I ‘ll leave it to others to decide!!!
#181.VETERAN.Let`s first get things straight.Are you denying that LPM did not illegally obtain land that belonged to UNZA?
Yes i deny that has any house built on a UNZA plot. I challenge you to go to the Deeds Registry and lands Department.
#201.VETERAN.Don`t try to play with words here.That`s just a simple question.
christy if you are really serious get in touch with me at bwanjitv.gmail.com
[email protected]
Jeff christy is working you instead write her she is serios woman. Check for her email
Ba Jeff…! efyo mufwila? christy, “please help spread the word and not the disease.”
Spearhead Agric Production, Chiefs Urged
By Michael Padera
Victoria Falls
Vice President Joice Mujuru has challenged traditional leaders to spearhead agricultural production since subsistence farming was the only sure way Zimbabwe could achieve food security at the household level.
She said traditional leaders should also discourage over-reliance on food handouts from donors as the practice destroyed Zimbabwe’s culture of hard work and the spirit of self-reliance.
Cde Mujuru said traditional leaders should ensure that at least each family under their jurisdiction tills one hectare of food crops each year.
Zimbabwe spends nearly US$500 million each year when there is a drought to import food. The money is enough to buy a year’s supplies of fuel.
Cde Mujuru made the remarks yesterday when she officially closed the annual chiefs’ conference. “If we achieve this one hectare policy, we would have passed in feeding Zimbabwe. We spend over US$500 million each drought year to feed the nation,” she said.
She said Government was failing to repair roads and build dams because it was using the available resources to import food. Cde Mujuru said achieving food security was the only way Zimbabwe could also restore its culture and traditions.
At the moment women practice prostitution to get money to sustain their lives but in the process spread or catch HIV and Aids. Cde Mujuru said she was going around Zimbabwe to implement farming projects and would work hard to ensure the projects succeed.
“I do not just speak or talk. I put things into action. Some say I am campaigning for the party but I am campaigning for our tummies. Once these tummies are full, you will know where that food came from,” she said.
Cde Mujuru likened the institution of traditional leaders to a clay pot that is used to prepare sour milk (hodzeko).
She said the traditional leaders should educate their people against reliance on donor food handouts.
“NGOs are contributing to moral decadence and laziness. How do we preserve culture if we do not work? You lose your status as hodzeko if you do not work,” she said. She reassured the traditional leaders that Government would always work with them and address their grievances.
The conference, which was officially opened by President Mugabe on Thursday, ended yesterday with chiefs passing a number of resolutions they hope if fully implemented would help in improving service delivery.
The annual national bira would be held during the last week of September to pray for rain and the easing of problems afflicting the country.
The chiefs agreed that they would slaughter unclaimed stray cattle at the biras. The chiefs resolved that Government should ensure that Zupco buses were deployed in all rural districts because the company was reliable and charges affordable fares.
Chief Malisa from the Midlands province said Government should prioritise food relief in areas hit by drought and introduce public works programmes.
He was supported by other chiefs who said rural roads should be repaired to enable bus operators to ply the routes.
The traditional leaders said allocation of anti-retroviral drugs to rural clinics and hospitals should be increased.
Delivering a solidarity message, Chief Shaibila from Central Province of Zambia said Zimbabwe was blessed to have a leader like President Mugabe.
He said during a recent discussion with colleagues from fellow African states, it was agreed that if Africa had five such leaders, the continent would get all the recognition it requires.
“We respect President Mugabe in Zambia,” he sad.
He praised the local government structures in Zimbabwe, which accord representation of chiefs in all the arms of Government. He said chiefs in Zambia would copy the Zimbabwe model and influence their government to allow the holding of annual chiefs’ conferences.
Speaking on the sidelines of the conference, the Deputy Minister of Local Government, Public Works and Urban Development, Cde Morris Sakabuya, said the concerns of chiefs have always been addressed. He was responding to calls by traditional leaders to have a chiefs’ commission that would have direct access to President Mugabe.
The chiefs had argued that some of their concerns were not being relayed to the Presidium and wanted the establishment of a commission with more powers and direct access to the President.
Cde Sakabuya said that the chiefs got tractors, cars, land and allowances are all testimony that grievances were being heard at the highest level of Government.
He said the issue of the commission should instead be directed to Parliament, as it is the body that makes laws.
“It’s not true that if we have a commission all their grievances would be resolved. Government prioritises issues. We cannot for example buy cars for the chiefs when there is drought. We first buy food then the vehicles,” he explained.
President of the Chiefs’ Council Chief Fortune Charumbira said the idea was being misunderstood.
“We are not rebelling against Government. We are not advocating for a separate Government,” he said.
Chief Charumbira gave a brief background on how the idea of the commission came into being. He said the idea was first mooted by the Border Gezi Parliamentary Commission that under took a study of Southern Africa.
The idea was revived during a panel discussion with social commentator Professor Claude Mararike during the conference resulting in the chiefs agreeing to have the commission as recommended by the Gezi Commission.
An impression that the commission was self-serving then emerged.
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LPM will eat his own shit come 2011.
LPM will eat his own shit come 2011.he should resign on ill health and extreme incompetence
LPM will eat his own shit come 2011.he should resign on ill health and extreme incompetence
Christy, contact me at [email protected]
I am a zambian.
it’s nice to see Zambians engage in discussions that matter to the future of the nation.we are however,overlooking a lot of issues that will criple Zambia if not addressed today.Let’s not dwell on what divides us but concentrate on what brings us together.a few topics that i think will interest most of us.
Education
Employment
Health
The executive branch.I think zambians need to stand up and strip the presidency of some powers.The Parliament needs to be given powers to oversee the executive
why dont we stand up together and form a party. we are still young and living abroad but can learn some skills and come back home to make zambia better? who is in?
Sikatana! were are you?
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