The Oasis Forum says its decision to divorce itself from the National Constitution Conference (NCC) is strictly based on the fact that many contention issues in the NCC Act have remained unresolved.
Oasis Forum convener Father Joe Komakoma said at a press briefing in Lusaka today
that among the areas of concern is the composition of the NCC which is not
equitable.
Fr Komakoma explained that this is so because out of a possible 502 members of the
National Constitution Conference, 279 are politicians, made up of 158 MPs, 48
representatives of political parties and 73Â councilors. Only 15 percent of the
composition are from the civil society.
Fr Komakoma, who is also Zambia Episcopal Conference (ZEC) Secretary General,
further pointed out that the Act in its present state does not involve the
participation of the people at the level of adoption of the constitution.
He said the NCC Act, which establishes the NCC, clearly indicates a fundamental
departure from the people’s demands for a new constitution.
Fr Komakoma said the NCC is established not to adopt a new constitution but to alter
the current constitution.
“The Mungomba CRC had listened to the people and recommended repealing and replacing the current constitution which everyone including President Mwanawasa considered as deeply flawed, oppressive and suffocating,” he said.
He said the NCC Act in Article 4 takes away from the people the chance to be in
charge of the country’s constitutional destiny adding that the Act provides for a
composition that now reflects a politician driven constitution over the constitution
making process.
Fr. Komakoma stressed that the popular mode of adoption, decided upon by the people,
should not be dominated by one particular category to ensure that the draft
constitution to be decided upon will be a product of consensus.
He said agreeing to participate in the NCC would mean endorsing and legitimizing a
process that has clearly departed from the poeple’s wishes to repeal and replace
the current constitution.
And Fr. Komakoma explained that the Oasis Forum is not in alliance with second
republican president Dr. Frederick Chiluba.
He said contrary to media reports, during the Oasis Forum conference held on 13th
September this year, an invitation was sent to Dr. Chiluba and the first republican
president Dr. Kenneth Kaunda in their capacities as former heads of state and not
as individuals.
He said public meetings convened by the Forum have always been open and that
invitations are extended to all stakeholders regardless of political or religious
affiliations.
The Oasis forum always distances itself from politicians and now don’t want to be part of the NCC because it full of politicians. Someone needs to tell Fr. Kamakoma that what they engage in is politics in itself are also politicians by default. The only difference is that they are not a registered political party.
They can go to hell.
NCC is going nowhere!!
Finally I can hear some specific demand by civil society regarding this process, namely composition. Its interesting this from the Oasis forum. MPs are elected by the people so they are the most representative. If they are perceived by some people not to be, let civil society educate the masses and put pressure on their respective MPs to vote wisely on whatever the contentious issues might be in the constitution. And I imagine the 279 or 158 also include the opposition. I dont think that determining the composition that will satisfy everyone is an issue that can ever be resolved.
I am not supprised. These guys distanced themselves from the Mung’omba CRC. Today they want to be seen to champion the constitution cause.
They can go to hell.
Oasis is playing with wrong people all together. Is it MMD they are gambling with on national agenda? I can only wish them Godspeed and much luck in their dreams.
PF has failed to honour its promises – Nawa
By Mutuna Chanda
Sunday September 23, 2007 [21:00] Print Article Email Article
FORMER Forum for Democracy and Development (FDD) Mandevu Constituency member of parliament Patricia Nawa has charged that the Patriotic Front (PF) has failed to honour its pre-election campaign promises.
In an interview, Nawa said there was nothing new that the current PF member of parliament Jean Kapata had initiated.
“Most of the programmes that are being done are those that we left. When I am moving in the early hours what I see is that most of our women are waking up at one a.m. to draw water. During our time women had stopped waking up at one a.m. to draw water,†Nawa said. “PF was making promises of delivering within 90 days, they were promising to deliver free water before last year’s elections and since water falls under the council we thought that this would change but it’s not happening.â€
But Kapata said Nawa should just ‘shut her big mouth’ because as far as she was concerned, they were rivals.
It seems the Oasis Forum do not understand or accept the fact that MP’s are bonafide reps of the people.I would have thought the Forum would have taken on the job of lobbying the MP’s.The forum obviously feels they “represent” some section of society which is being sidelined from the NCC.Someone has to educate the forum on the technique of lobbying as they are merely a pressure group with no formal mandate from any section of society.Their behaviour continues to to baffle me as they are so confrontational even when they have genuine concerns that are best put forward by elected representatives.This is why they are labelled a political party in disguise….they behave as one !!
FFTUZ accuses ZCTU of being MMD’s puppet
By Lambwe Kachali: Sunday September 23, 2007 [21:00]
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FEDERATION of Free Trade Unions of Zambia (FFTUZ) vice president Joe Kamutumwa on Friday charged that the Zambia Congress of Trade Unions (ZCTU) was seeking an alliance with the ruling MMD.
But ZCTU president Leonard Hikaumba said his organisation was politically neutral.
In an interview, Kamutumwa said ZCTU would not address workers’ problems if it continued being a puppet of the government.
Govt approves K2bn for construction of Chongwe hospital
By Noel Sichalwe in Chongwe: Sunday September 23, 2007 [21:00]
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LOCAL government minister Sylvia Masebo has said about K2 billion has been approved for the construction of Chongwe District Hospital among other projects in the constituency.
the copy and paste in (8) is as many of you know, not me !!
We’re not aware of Oasis Forum’s Press briefing — LAZ
By Times Reporter
THE Law Association of Zambia (LAZ) has disassociated itself from today’s Press briefing on the Constitution-making process by the Oasis Forum.
LAZ president, Elijah Banda, said in an interview in Kitwe yesterday his organisation was not aware of the Oasis Forum’s Press briefing and as earlier indicated, LAZ was yet to come up with a firm position after consulting members.
“We are not aware of the Oasis Forum Press briefing and even if we were aware, we would not be part of the briefing because we are yet to have our internal consultations,†Mr Banda said.
Last week, Mr Banda said LAZ had stopped its members from attending the Oasis Forum stakeholders meeting because it wanted to prevent them from airing views that would contradict the association’s position on the National Constitution Conference (NCC).
TOP (11+12), hahahahahahahahahaha!!!!
navigation, see below for text 100 Days of Slaughter: A Chronology of U.S./U.N. Actions
April 6, 1994 Rwandan President Habyarimana and the Burundian President are killed when Habyarimana’s plane is shot down near Kigali Airport. Hutu extremists, suspecting that the Rwandan president is finally about to implement the Arusha Peace Accords, are believed to be behind the attack.
Sorry for # 14 and declare all posts my signatured works.
Later
Comrade(15), you need help…possibly some pills that you can take to get you thinking right.You are obviously not well, but worry not…modern medicine is amazing and i’m sure there is cure out there for you.Your tangential topical c&p’s are quite hilarious!!Aluta continua.
p.s i have to find out if Chainama Hills Hospital are missing a patient who among other ailments is fond of impersonation and posting c & p’s !!!!
You remember, where I said we fix these imposters many complained of infringements of privacy.However its never to too late. Even after 10 years these imposters can be traced.
Easy,
You are a clueless kid with inferior abilities. Stop ranting in my face there are people out there who are better equipped with phishing skills than your nonsensical Grade 7 options. I don’t want to be the cause e of your mess i have had enough. Every time i switch blog IDs am spotted. I guess i have to live with it not understanding the motive and where this leads us.I mean i don’t know what next on the table.
Ba Easy(19),this particular type of imposter is constantly hoping for a venomous response.If i fell prey to it i would be letting down the principles of self restraint exercised so well by many other contributors.I am not the first nor the last….so i’ll just weather the storm.He/She will eventually tire..they always do !!
The Original Pundit,
May be you revert to the use of your discredited Pungwa or Baseless Monk id.Unless you know why you are many The Original Pundit here or the agenda at hand, I’m lost on the genesis and Grand agenda of this confusion considering that we are all merely ranting here out of our bored lives. Lest we know that power and opportunities are for cronyism and cadres when we are fending for ourselves.
# 21,
Ha ha ha….h since when did you ever exercise self restraint? That is hilarious say the least.Principles of self restrain when documents and trails of your venomous charges and past threats are aplenty on the internet files.
One needs to introspect before they point fingers and try to make decisions based on emotions. Fr kamokamo with his Oasis was part of the ZDIC and the people who drafted the NCC bill. He knew the content of the bill before it went to parliament for first, second and third readings. He never at any point pointed out the flows or his concerns regarding the NCC composition. The fact is, The president and the 158 MPs are the people we duly elected to represent us and preside over constitutional matters that is why the other name for MPs is legislators. They make laws. That is what we elected them for. The other bunch is the councilors (civic) leaders elected by the Zambian people to represent them regarding civic or local government issues. The people Oasis is alleging not to be represented are actually being represented by the MPs and councilors they actually elected to represent them. So what people is Kamokamo talking about? And since when did Oasis start representing us?….
. LPM should forge ahead anarchy is not an option. Leadership calls for making tough decisions. You don’t expect 12 million people to agree on everything. We fundamentally agree that we need a new constitution. We also agree in principle on the adoption process. What we need now is strong leadership to steer the plan into the destiny. I support the close that says the president can dissolve the NCC, because we don’t need an endless process. We want results. The constitution also gives the president power to dissolve parliament. But we don’t see MPs boycotting parliament do we? The Oasis should appreciate the fact that in spite of being an illegal entity LPM has bent over backwards to accommodate their views. If this was KK era they would all be in jail today.
# 24 & 25,
That is the wisdom many cadres here have lamentably failed to exhibit. I have been called an MMD sycophant which i don’t care for asking such candid questions. Where does the so called Oasis Forum derive its mandate, constituency and moral duty to hold our dully elected representatives at gun point? Do they expect the sitting administration to be their chola boys watching the Intransigent OF rape the country? Who between them and GRZ is the constitutionally custodian of peace and safety of all Zambians. They have never signed any oath and owe nobody the duty of care. At worst they don’t carry my right of representation by virtue their spurious roles on the scene. I have just finished reading through TOP’s pasted report on 100 days of Genocide in Rwanda. The same Ba patili fermented the hatred and carnage. Afterwards, they all rain away. But In Zambia will will not buy such anarchist panting for our siblings’ blood.
Ba Fact na sokolatieasy,be mindful of what you are saying,in your life time you have never voted and the grass roots who are voters are always duped by so called frivolus and corrupt parties who buy them goodies without any creed.Its time people realised this and started to ask for people’s credentials before being duped.
Iwe Ka Fact am sure niwe kamaketula kwati ni chuchu.So use your heads before having lapses like your boss ba condemu.
Bushe kanshi abantu bamano baya kwisa pa blog apa? Ifipuba nafifulisha sana? Kayata, Kuku, Daka bushe mwayakwisa? Come back on this dead site and help to resurrect it
#27 Chiwelewele has gone to the archives.
Ba Observer(23),unfortunately i’m unable to defend myself especially when an imposter has run riot on all threads purporting to be me.At one point someone did allude to being able to pin point IP addresses and used this skill to identify the multiple personalities that exist on this blog.If this was indeed possible, i would be vindicated without much effort.When i started on this blog I used to be Pundit..then someone came on and starting using the name…in the spirit of avoiding conflict i changed to TOP.Changing again would be too much to ask so i’ll “chill” until the imposter gets tired.Chapi,Kuku,Ba Joze,Inonge,Born Rich,Ba Francis naba Citizen would recognise my style of writing as we dissected many a topic with the civility expected of erudite human beings.The venomous charges and threats purportedly on record are not mine.I don’t expect you to believe me…but thats life isn’t it ??
Ba Observer(23), the other notable thing is that i’m not a “copy and paste” specialist so anything bearing my name on a c & P contribution should be taken with a pinch of salt !
abortion is as good as murder. taking of the someone’ life in the name of abortion. other than zambia being 97% christian, we should not even allow to debit this matter. can the christians true followers of Jesus please stand-up and stop this madness. other question, if you yourself where aborted for some reason, who will be there to carry out the devilish act.
ZAMBIANS STAND-UP, YOU DO NOT NEET POLICE PERMIT TO SOUND YOUR NO.PROTECT THE UNBORN.
Mutened Who tod you Zambia is 97% christian. The statistics is 50% to 90%.. This means Zamabians are not hardcore christians but flip between tradition and Christianity of various degree.
Its interesting to watch the unfolding in this consitution saga.there is no doubt that there is power play in trying to see who really is calling the shots.Its sad that pipo would triviolise the most important execirse to personal ego.Its clear that some civil organisation have not been forthrifgt in making this a straight foward task.The may have a point but if they play hide and seek it might just backfire because once the constitution is enacted and it will answer many contetious issues then ther argument will be irrelevant and they will deprive themselves of been part of something that everyone has been longing for.Some of this pipo have realy been instrmental upto this point and they should continue to contribute without letting their ego stand in their way.
Oasis Forum jst register as a political partry pliiiz not this nonsense you r tryn to preach
You imposter . We are sick and tired of your C and P. If you cannot contribute to the current topic, just go fishing.
Fr Komakoma is a silly “Pastor Polepole” who thinks all Zambians are as gullible as he is not to see his silly monkey acrobatics. Who the hell does not know that Chiluba has only one capacity, thief! No matter how his capacity is concealed, be it “Former Second Republican President”, “Former ZCTU President”, “Master Political Dribbler”, “KA TUBULU”, “Aka red na Aka black” etc, the man is still a stinking THIEF! Komakoma should just come in the open with reasons why he has seen it fit to invite a convicted thief and adulterer? Given Chiluba’s failed attempt at constitutional making whence the crisis we are faced with today, what wise guidance can he give now that he could not then? People say once beated twice shy, the likes of Komakoma’s lack of common sence to think logically is what is killing Africa today.Plain suicidal stupidity like this is unforgivable. Pastors, you can never trust them at all, even blind folks like PK Chishala did not. Look at Pop Ncube of Zimbabwe, apuuu!
NCC is going nowhere!! I support the position of O.F. We can’t let the C.M.P. be dominated by politicians because our Zambian politicians have no principles. Today the will say, we are in opposition, the next minute, after being corrupted; they will switch to the ruling party. A good example is one chimumbwa, he was there on PF ticket, and the next minute he had switched to MMD. When he was PF, the people of Chingola wanted to sue KCM for polluting Kafue River but Chimumbwa defended KCM and was against the will of the people of Chingola and Zambia in general. It turned out the reason this individual was defending KCM was because he is a registered supplier to KCM so he went out of his way to defend his ‘other’ pay masters. And he is not the only unprincipled politician we have, he is just one of many such corrupt people. So why should the people of Zambia let such criminals dominate the constitutional making process? Free thinking people must oppose NCC by all means!!
#4 but do M/PS in ZED consult their members?
Ba cm(38),the govt hoped the MP’s would use the offices constructed in their constituencies for that same purpose.One wonders if they are indeed used at all.Our MP’s seem to only champion there own personal viewpoints and not those of their electors!!I suppose this is why many people feel MP’s represent themselves and not their constituents!!
Ba Original Pundit.
Then why should Chuchu continues to appoint MPs who can’t deliver to sensitive ministerial positions? Who’s to blame; Chuchu, MPs or electorates?
Nomba ufweni what Vera did in Isoka
Vera : “Am from Australia attending meeting on global warming and the emphasis
was on CO2. Therefore, you pipo here should stop growing BEANS.â€
Vera : “ Order, order, plz ,order. Madum speaker Sir, it’s not Kyoto protocol but
TOKYO protocol.â€
Coming to Mpombo, he may have BA but we need 20 bulldozers to remove the
forest in his head. The chap can’t think like a real normal person.
TOP(46…51),EUREKA!!!!, after a bit of investigation i have 2 things to report!!
1. Chainama Hills Hospital are indeed looking for you and will soon be calling on you!!
2. Resulting from extensive studies of truant bloggers such as yourself, ground breaking medication is now available(the cost is subsidised so don’t worry)
I’m sure we all look forward to your speedy return after treatment !!!
Thank God for modern medicine !!
Sorry i mean in # 52 i mean my condition.
YOU TWO PIPO #52&53 ARE BOTH MAAAAAADDDDDD AND SHEEETAAANIIIII. PLEEEZIIII DONT BOOOREEEE UUUSSS, FOR GOD’S SAKE
Ba Anonymous(54), kanabesa at least mwaishiba ati tuli babili….but shetani ni uyu imposter, elyo he/she is not mad just someone mentally imbalanced needing treatment.I don’t quite think it is a birth defect or hereditary but then again who knows!!
Ba Joze(45), shouldn’t LPM be given powers to appoint ministers from outside Parliament?? This would give an appointing authority a greater pool of potential candidates who would be able to “deliver” !!At the moment he is restricted to the usual suspects(maybe that is why some of them want to export some global warming to colder climates !!)
Pundit… You dont have to explain yourself. Those of us who have been blogging with you can tell the difference. Veteran has run amock, he is the major imposter in the blog. Sometimes he comes as Chapi or sage. But people can tell the difference. Just keep blogging and ignore him. He will fade out.
Where is KUKU?
Bored? How about some Kung Fu action…..
Chinese couple beats anti copper sqaud officers in Kitwe
Sept. 25 — Kitwe, September 25, ZANIS—–A Chinese Couple of Kitwe’s Buyantashi Township today assaulted some members of the Copperbelt Anti Copper Theft Squad in Kung Fu style after the couple was allegedly found with various finished copper products worth millions of Kwacha believed to have been stolen from Mopani Copper Mines, Copperbelt Energy Corporation (CEC) and Konkola Copper Mines (KCM) A check by the Zambia News and Information Services (ZANIS) at House Number 5876, Acacia Crescent in Buyantashi, found the emotionally charged couple pouring cold water on the Zambia National Broadcasting Corporation (ZNBC) News crew that had gone to cover the event.
One of the accused persons, a Ms Liang Yun, who was kicking the Police Officers as they tried to get entry into the house after obtaining a search warrant, also broke a camera belonging to Konkola Copper Mines after she tried to kick a KCM Employee who was taking pictures. Police sources found at the scene told ZANIS that they were acting on a tip off from members of the public. They said the couple, Mr Zhang Zhihua, and Liang Yun, who owns a Copper Supply and Processing Company, were found with Tonnes of copper cathodes, anodes, triangular bars, spillage, wires and angle bars believed to have been stolen from KCM, Mopani and CEC. Police said that the couple alleged that they bought the merchandise from some local individuals. And Kitwe Police Commanding Officer, Mhlakeni Zulu, who confirmed the development to ZANIS said he could not give further details on the matter as he was still waiting for a report from the squad on the issue.
Mr Zulu said Police were still removing the recovered items from the house and that after all the items had been collected a report will be issued on the matter. ZANIS/LKC/
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Levy reiterates that no Mugabe, no EU-Africa sumit
Sept. 25 — From Emmerson Muchangwe New York, Sept 25, ZANIS-President Levy Mwanawasa has reiterated that the official position of the SADC region is that nobody will attend the Eurpean Union (EU) – Africa Sumit set for December in Portrugal if Presenedent Robert Mugabe of Zimbabwe is not anvited to that sumit. Mr. Mwanawasa, who is the current SADC chairman, said this yesterday when he was answering a question from a Zimbabwe journalists on the regional body’s official position on the summit. Mr. Mwanawasa said it would be difficult for any head of State in the SADC to attend the EU-Africa summit without Mr. Mugabe in attendance. He stressed that there was need for unity of purpose in the region in all areas of mutual interest. Earlier, Mr. Mwanawasa and his Zimbabwean counterpart had closed door discussions on the 47th floor of New York Palace Hotel where Mr. Mwanawasa is lodging.
Meanwhile, Mr. Mwanawasa is later today expected to meet with the Portuguese Prime Minister where the two leaders are expected to discuss the EU-Africa summit in detail. Mr. Mwanawasa is also going to participate in a round table discussion on human rights and democracy at the United Nations Building. The President who is in New York to attend the 62nd regular session of the U.N General Assembly is accompanied by Foreign Affairs minister Kabinga Pande and Commernce and Trade Minister Felix Mutati. Agriculture Minister Ben Kapita and Science and Technology Miister Peter Daka. ZANIS EM/SC
UNIP CB Provincial Chairman arrested
Sept. 25 — Mufulira, Sept 25, ZANIS–Opposition United Natioal Independence Party (UNIP) Copperbelt Provincial Chairman, Oliver Kabange has been arrested by the immigration department over his nationality which is still being probed. Investigative wings say Mr. Kabango is not a Zambian but a Congolese national born in the Democratic Republic of Congo) DRC in 1963 and has been branded a prohibited immigrant. Mr. Kabango 44, a mining engineer at Konkola Copper Mines (KCM) is currently detained at Kamuchanga open air prison in Mufulira. The opposition Copperbelt Provincial Chairman contested last years September 2007, tripartite polls as a parliamentarian for the Mufulira Central seat under the joint alliance, the United Democratic Alliance (UDA).
Sources handling the case say Mr. Kabango entered Zambia in 1993 and managed to acquire a Zambian passport and National Registration Card (NRC). The sources disclosed that Mr. Kabango claimed that he was a Zambian born at Kashiba District in Mwense in Luapula Province, but such chiefdom does not exist. The sources noted that Mr. Kabango’s arrest has nothing to do with his ties with the opposition party, UNIP. The sources said Mr. Kabango’s nationality has been under scrutiny for several years now and the immigration department has managed to extract and ellicit key details on this issue. The sources said Mr. Kabango was born in DRC, educated and grown up in Belgium. The investigators say no Zambian has actually come forth to claim that they know Mr. Kabango. ZANIS/ENDS/MM/CK/EB
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