Zambia’s liberation hero, Kenneth Kaunda, has endorsed acting president Rupiah Banda ahead of an election later this month, state media reported on Sunday.
Former head of state Kaunda said Banda, and not populist chief opposition leader Michael Sata of the Patriotic Front (PF), who has been drawing huge crowds at his campaign rallies, would make a good president.
“I am happy with the leadership skills shown by the acting president,” state radio quoted Kaunda as saying, adding he hoped Banda would continue holding the office of president.
“He (Sata) is good as governor and minister but I don’t think he can work as a president. I don’t hate him, but if voters elect him, it is their own fault,” Kaunda was quoted as saying by the state-owned Sunday Times newspaper.
Banda became acting president after the death in August of Levy Mwanawasa, praised by investors for stabilising the mineral-rich southern African nation and fighting corruption.
Analysts say Kaunda’s comments may swing a few more votes to Banda. No clear favourite has emerged ahead of the October 30 presidential poll.
State media also reported that the Electoral Commission of Zambia’s (ECZ) director of elections, Dan Kalale, said the budget for the poll would be 231 billion kwacha and that Zambia had asked donors to help finance it.
Finance Minister Ngandu Magande told Reuters last month he expected the cost of the election to widen the budget deficit beyond the projected 1.2 percent of gross domestic product (GDP), but it would be kept below 2 percent.
Reuters
Kaounda is a boot licker,as a former states man he should just keep quite,we dont need his opinion
Tell us since you worked with both Sata and Banda. But why are you not informing us about Banda when he served under you?
GO KK THATS EXACTLY YOUR ROLE. YOU WORKED WITH BOTH THESE MEN AND YOU ARE THE RIGHT PERSON TO ADVICE. THE ZAMBIANS CAN TAKE THE ADVICE OR LEAVE IT. WHATS IMPORTANT IS FOR A STATESMAN LIKE YOU TO TELL THE PEOPLE THE BEST CANDIDATE AS YOU HAVE DONE. BRAVO BIGMAN CONTINUE WITH YOU WORK.
All you SATA die hards should take note! KK knows both men better than any of us who may be just emmosional about the whole thing. We would do better to take aleaf from KK.
The father of the Nation has spoken.He trully knows waht he is saying.Remember what he said about Chiluba???Anyways,it is his independent opinion like any one of us!!
Ba KK not strange of U shikulu. Look at history:
2001-KK endorsed Mazoka-God gave us LMP
2006-KK endorsed HH and condemned SATA-God gave us LPM
Now-KK endorses RB-Just after the failed attempt to support HH if U mananged to have SATA withdraw.
You confussed us Shikulu. Maybe you should try to just watch the game.
Pabwatoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ba KK am dissapointed “I am happy with the leadership skills shown by the acting president,” who doesn’t know of how corrupt RB has been during this period?
I don’t trust Mulongoti media. Viva HH
Its ironical Dr Kaunda was advising RB not to mind insults coming from other Presidential contenders as quoted by The Post yesterday, i find this rather unfair why can’t he as father of the nationa advise RB not to insult his colleagues too. Also since when did the ‘father of the nation’stop supporting HH? Is this man’s advise to Zambians genuine?
And who has ever listen to KK in Zambia please?
Imwee muleumfwa kubakalamba KK has warned the nation.dont say u were not TOLD.
# 1 KK IS NOT A BOOT LICKER THIS IS THE FIRST TIME HE HAS SUPPORTED SOMEONE CURRENTLY PERFORMING FUNCTIONS OF A PRESIDENT. THE MAN HAS ALWAYS BEEN IN THE OPPOSITION SINCE 1991. FOR HIM TO SWITCH TO THE RULING PARTIES CANDIDATE IT MEANS HE HAS SEEN THE POTTENTIAL AND HE IS SATISFIED. BY THE WAY HE IS ONLY ADVISING FROM A VERY INFORMED POSITION HAVING WORKED WITH THREE OF THE CONTENDERS IN THIS ELECTION. BY THE WAY THIS ALSO SHOWS THAT RB IS A UNITING FACTOR IN THIS COUNTRY.HE HAS SUCCESSFULLY MANAGED TO BRING PEOPLE OF DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS AND CHARECTER TOGETHER.
Ba shikulu ba kk that house was not from RB it is your costitutional right, i dont understand why you have to compromise. Namukota , dont mislead zambians.
pabwato.
KK has no influence on Zambian politics. This is a man who ruled us under a state of emergency for 17 years.
Could it be true that RB is UNIP,and no wonder why Tilyenji was saying that RB has got the vision of UNIP, vigilant style, n nationalisation you name it all.
We saw Dr KK organising a meeting between HH n Ba Sata,but what has happened now.
Ala we ng’anda nobe ulayemba, waleka nabakulu balaba ifyo balandile.
KK is RB’S brother i law so what do you expect? and more over KK was just comparing RB to Sata the one better for the presidency. VIVA HH
KK has simply endorsed RB. He has not declared him the winner? So whats the fuss all about? If Bill Clinton can endorse a candidate of his choice why shouldn’t K.K?
Sorry KK but VJ is in south africa, what is he doing there? bullot papers ha! RB may be better than sata but the people sorrounding him are quastionable.
KK has decided to support Nyama Soya becoz of the same hse he was given.all he would have done was say thank u,instead of bringing down Sata.let him tell us of some shot coming s that Nyama Soya had as well.
..………………..RB…… SATA….. HH
Northern …..35%….. 60%…… 5%
Luapula ……40%….. 50%…… 10%
Eastern ……60%….. 15%……. 15%
Central ……39%….. 10%…… 51%
Lusaka …….38%….. 39%…… 23%
Copperbelt …32%….. 40%…… 28%
North-western .20%….. 8%…… 72%
southern …….8% …..3% ……85%
western …….11% …..2% ……80%
zambia ……..28%…. 24%…… 39%
KK please concetrate on HIV programmes because in politics you are confusing us.
Its the House that is confusing the old man.I thot he was going to tell bioth Sata & Rupiah to retire coz there time is up.
Wooooooo Ni pa bwato ifwe
hey #1, u got to have respect for the founding father of our great nation zed.Kk led this nation for 27yrs peacefully coupled with the long live slogan One Zed One nation.Therefore,his views and opinoin should be respect.And his a senior citizen and he has full rights to express views and opinions.
KK should just keep quiet and stop confusing us.
Read carefully fellow bloggers. I urge you to read between the lines. KK has said he is impressed with the way RB has handled the office of the President full stop. He then goes on to say, Zambians don’t make a mistake by voting for Sata. Doom. He has clearly not endorsed RB and has written off Ubwato. In short he is telling to you vote wisely and you know who it is. Use your hand to tick properly.
KK has got wrong. He is a national statesman. Let him emulate the great Mandela. I am not a PF supporter, but i think he has really got it all wrong.
Sata has asked Dr Kenneth Kaunda to reveal to the nation why he fired his relative Vice-President Rupiah Banda from NAMBOARD.
KK you are entitled to your opinion, and the Zambians are to theirs. The majority’s opnoin is SATA.
Was Kaunda a good president?If not will what he choses be good?I personally have said that Sata really can make a very good president but he is too hash.Though some times i see him as an opportunist but which leader is not?.May be this is what Zambia need for now a hash working leader.Sata can give us back our dignity as a nation and as a people.I think we will not go wrong to vote for him because in his time as a minister were ever he saved change followed him.Rich people in the world are not those with degrees.Good leaders are not those wirh degrees but those with the vision and idea.
It’s over for Sata. How can he expect to win the Presidency with 2 or 3 Provinces only? And HH why is he even standing only to be supported by 1 province. After this election Sata should retire. HH will just keep wasting his time (and other pipos money). Ask Miyanda, Nawakwi etc. Viva RB
KK seems to know more about Sata than RB, He acknowledges that Sata is a good Minister which in short means he is a good leader and he can get things done. For RB he does not say anything that worries me.
RB cant make good president we all know that only those who have benefited from him with brown envlopes can say so or those yet to pliz lets vote for the future of zambian not what he as given you because is known for that. Say no to CORRUPTION, NO TO BROWN ENVLOPES, NO TO RB
We know RB is the brother inlaw of KK, because KK will be ruling this country if you are not careful. let him stay away from this game his time is long gone.
i repeat….. we should just vote for Miyanda
ifwe ba monk kuno ni PF
#31, you are in RSA. Am sure you don’t know a lot of what is happening in Zambia. It’s not just Southern Province that is supporting HH. Get facts. HH will get more votes that Sata.
VIVA Manyozo Forwading Party (MFP)!!!
#20 SEBITWANE YOUR ANALYSIS THOUGH A GOOD STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION IS VERY MISLEADING BECAUSE POPULATIONS IS NOT EVENLY DISTRIBUTED IN OUR PROVINCES I.E SOUTHERN HAS A POPULATION 3* HIGHER THAN THAT OF LUAPULA MEANING A 100% VOTE IN LUAPULA= 33% IN SOUTHERN IN TERMS OF NUMBERS.
A 50% ON THE COPPERBELT MIGHT BE EQUAL TO A 100% IN SOUTHERN THATS WHEN YOU COUNT THE NUMBERS YOU WILL FIND THAT ONE WHO WINS IN HIGHER POPULATIONS OR ANY 4 PROVINCES AND THEN COMES SECOND IN THE REST WILL HAVE A HIGHER NUMBER THAN OTHERS AND WINS THE ELECTIONS. JUST CHECK HOW LEVY WON.
ni pabwato fye ba kk you will never be respected
KK please we are fed up of MMD,or do u want them also to rule us for 27 years? this is what drow us back as a nation, intend rust same people to rule the country for a long time, MMD has ruled us for more than 10 years and that is enough. please we need change.
KK,that house was from the people of Zambia and not RB.
Why endorse him now after being handed over the house?Oh,i forgot that RB is what you call a UNIPISTS!!!!KK,i thought you were for HH.Shame!!!
SATA cant make it to even reach 25% of Zambia in 20 Days. This time around he may even lose in Lusaka. SATA is a loser. Bitter pill to swallow and now he is talking about rigging in advance.
Very interseting to see the number of Day dreamers in Zambia under the guise of PF. Wake up , SATA has already lost.
His own MP’s are decampaigning him where he thinks he has a chance. Wake up, there is just no time for him to spread his poison and malice. His mouth piece ‘The Post’ has been quietened and slapped with damages.
Kaunda has made a big mistake he uplifts RB one whom he once had fired.It shows how his judgement has always been.That is why he has no respect like that of Mandale.I was mixed up as to whom can lead us now,Kaunda has just made up a decision for me i would definetly go for Sata.
Nipakubooko VIVA HH…ni forward.
Ba KK ubo bupuba, you as a statesman you are not supposed to be siding with anyone, thats why you are not respected even in your own village. Maybe its old age.
Can someone tell me what kilimuzi means. RB used that name on sata
KK has 1 vote just like me. Let him vote for RB I will vote for my candidate Full Stop!!!!!!!!
KK is fed up with Sata because he refused to form a pact with UPND.
Go RB. We are with you.
we are 4 PF HERE
RB is corrupt.SATA is crazy.HH is the man.Atleast he z got his own money,he wont be in a hurry to reap us off.
#20,quite interesting work tho not too meaningful.donnot just average %ges rather pay attention to total number of registered voters for each province,then you will see that the absolute figures for each province will determine the winner.giving the main man HH such low %ges for nothern,lsk and CB is suicidal.anyway,from the terraces,may the best man win and propel mother zed to another level!!!!!
KK nasosa. Olo mukane, nasosa. VIVA MMD
Can SATA clone himself and reach the unreachable areas? Nay
Can SATA hire 50 helicopters for the campaign? Nay
Let the old man just go and rest and avoid a heart attack. Good advice for the ailing man.
The other day his voice could hardly come out and hardly any venom could spring from his fangs. Is SATA already crying? Is it not too early?
people this is a free country that encourages freedom of speech. if super ken wants to talk damn it let him talk. do not be disrespectful you louts!
#42 Whats your big problem with Sata you are always writing Sata this Sata that please spare the MAN.
#30 good comment i agree with you, we need somebody to make as work and with good results. RB has been a fialer whereven he has been and the pipo surrounding him a quesionable we dont need people like that when a country is just heading to development. not now and never
KK’s comment sums it all. KK has worked with Sata and he agrees with all of us – he his good at his work and he gets things done. He has not commented on RB because he know that his In-Law is a failure. In case u didn’t know, KK and RB are related. As a nation we have lost our dignity as Zambians we need that restored, now. Ba KK though you are irrelevant in this political dispensation, thanks for appreciating that Sata is a good leader.
KK you are not as wise as many can portrayed. You can not tell us who better between RB and Sata. Sata is better than RB in terms of corruption and a tribalist. Even you KK you got people from Malawi to be in GOVT especially in Civi service. YOU are not a good person KK how many people did you kill? so many so shut up you oid man.
From hero to zero. Hes the person that fired this guy from govt because of corruption but never fired Sata at any time and turns around and says that. Is he also being bought with a house he deserves!? Shame on the big man. I think Mandela is the only old leader with principles in Africa. How can you fire someone and later say say hes the best person to leader Zambia!?
#56
Halo SATA is a danger to our country. SATA to put it politely champions hooliganism. Just refer to contemporaly Zambian political History. This is my duty to protect even you against this capable tyrany.
BTW do you wonder why ‘The Post’ DONT mention anything about SATA’s evil exploits anymore? About 3rd term bid, chawama machette and panga thugs, the chasing of investors, Mugabe support etc, etc
CHILUBA ONCE SAID THAT THE OLDER YOU GROW, THE LESS WISER YOU BECOME…HE WAS REFERRING TO KK THEN. THIS SAYING APPLIES TO ALL OLD POLITICIANS…BIRDS OF THE SAME FEATHERS. LETS HAVE SOME FRESH AIR IN ZED.
Ba Kaunda thanks for making us shift and vote for Sata. Magande has done well as a Minister and i guess based on his performance, he can aspire to be President. This is how we judge leaders, based on past performance. This applies in the corporate world, we promote people based on their output and not just qualifications. As for me and my family its now Sata. Abash MMD abash RB, Viva PF Viva Sata.
N0.31 U are lost. Did u read yesterday ‘s post. BANDA and SATA must be careful. Frankly speaking SATA has 3 provinces like u said.HH has 4 and BANDA has 1.so be careful u will be disappointed.2006 is gone now we are in 2008.I know that SATA is a dictator, BANDA has no confidence in himself and his campaigners. Mulongoti has been dropped.
CAN U propose you opinion poll
#35 (nine wine) your Miyanda couldn’t even raise 200 supporters, where you among the three that he was stuck with? How much was Miyanda’s brown envelope worth this time for him to create that circus on nomination filing day?
KK has acknowledged that Sata is a good leader, period! VIVA PF!
The old man (KK)has out lived his usefullness.It’s not as if that house was a big favour by RB but it was due to him by right and nyama soya was not even there when construction started.
What a combination RB, FTJ and KK!!! We are back in the 20th Century
#20 how you forget easily. HH was no 3 in the last election and you think HH can run past Sata? Maybe even Miyanda will beat him this time! Let HH rest and prepare for 2011 or be worthless at that too!
#62
It is interesting that you choose to believe a ‘convicted thief’ on this matter instead of the common knowledge available whether be it tradional or religious. Check what the bible says ‘with grey hairs, wisdom…’
take heed zambians, KK is only giving us advice. Its either take it or leave it. Mark his words, you wished you had received his tip.
History has it KK you supported UNITA and MPLA won, watch this space ba KK
#64
You have seriously managed to cheat and blind yourself. Dont trust ‘the Post’ my simple advice.
#12(engines)u must have left zambia a long time a time ago,
too long not to no that KK has always endorsed people…..its funny just last week he wanted sata and HH to pact,lelo ba mupasa nyumba achinja,pa zambia che
#67, are you in Zambia?? Look at the way UPND is campaigning. They are going to places they didn’t do well. Even if am not UPND, i know HH will do better than Sata because Sata is bust campaigning on his already stringholds. Wina azalila
VIVA MFP
#67, are you in Zambia?? Look at the way UPND is campaigning. They are going to places they didn’t do well last time. Even if am not UPND, i know HH will do better than Sata because Sata is busy campaigning on his already stringholds. Wina azalila
KK, rest
VIVA MFP
KK is not a boot licker, he is a well respected man and if he wants to endorse RB good for him, he has the right to do so anyway.
DON’T CONFUSE THE BIG MAN. IF YOU WANT YOU CAN GIVE HIM ANOTHER HOUSE AND ANOTHER AND ANOTHER, THE FACT IS HE FIRED RB, HE FIRED SATA AND HE ALSO FIRED MIYANDA BUT HE WILL NOT FIRE HH. HH WILL BULD ANOTHER HOUSE FOR HIM ON THE ZAMBEZI RIVER, ARR
! WHAT AN ACHIEVEMENT.
#64 tell us the provinces. I knopw for a fact Lusaka, Copperbelt, Northern and Luapula are for Sata. HH has Southern, Western and Northwestern. Banda has Eastern and Central (Levy’s people). Its now a matter of numbers in these places and VJ’s visit to Joberg (less than 1 hour flight to Durban) where they are printing ballots and govt machinery (country mercenaries) . These factors will all influence the results.
Is it True that Lusak Central Police is on fire?
Bamudala is right.However he shud’ve advised Rupiah to retire as somebody has corrrectly put it.
Weekly Post- June 1, 1992
The Ministry of Local Govt and Housing received a 1.6billion got grant to facilitate the funding of council projects and salary increaments. From the 1.6bn, Sata instructed his ministry to process a 1.2bn fixed deposit into a stanchart Bank a/c contravening the govt’s moratorium prohibiting ministries from operating a/cs with commercial banks, a practice which is understood to have cost govt an annual 1.1bn in interest to commercial banks.
Editorial
After his foolish behavior during a ZNBC discussion under the guise of “chimbuya”, was questionable. We are nt surprised that his perchant for controversy led to his being beaten last Sunday. It was bound to happen
TATA LESA, AMENSO ICHI KK KWATI NI SHETANI!!!
VIVA RB
Ba KK mule-tusebanya,i thought u were principled ,that house is yo entitlement dot mistake 4 a ‘brown envelope’.What wrong with HH 2day?Any i will xcuse u i know its old age sydrome.And fe MMD can’t u c tht yo ka useless party is slowy been transformed into Unip wake dot just follow blindly with the Chibuku RB is buying u.I dot want my girl friend to be grabbed by an old man VIVA Pabwato Viva Ba Sata and ka # 20 yo maths is confused go back to school.
People you need education on what to endorse a candidate is.. eish!
dr kk we thankyou for heading our liberation,so many lives of our relatives were lost yet u did not even recognise them at all when you became the president.All the same we salute you for that.
KK had and has his wrongs so as FTJ and LPM.Sata,RB and HH all have there wrongs.So do not misguide the electorate by saying this cant make a gud presido.We know why you ve indorsed RB,We now need Mr.SATA this time around.KK ur not God who sees inside you only see outside.THE HOUSE they have given you is your entitlement so dont be lied by these mmd caps.
Its really a pity to hear ba mudala ba KK supporting RB openly, this is why young politicains or rather those that served under him do not have much respect for him. As a father of the Nation, he must advise of course but he must not have favourites. Its good to tell the people to vote wisely but not in the manner he said it. KK must emulate the likes of Nelson Mandela, retired and living a quiet life and the man is respected but ba KK too much talk time mukanwa. Anyway the goodness is that Zambians are not influenced by such rhetoric, they make their own decisions when voting.
#73/ 74 no need to double post if you have merit. If thinking straight makes me no Zambia, I would be happy! lol. No matter how many times you go to campaign in an area people have already decided, it wont help. HH has southern province for obvious reasons. Tongas will always back him. Other people follow what you tell them not who you are or which tribe you come from! Thats a fact. Do you think if Banda even shifted and lived in Southern province they will change and vote for him as having campaigned? Only when he has a Habanda origin will he do it PERIOD! Its about the numbers, oh by the way, HH is only popular is places with fewer people. We could have told him that, but this is not 2011!
#20 GOOD ANALYST.
Forgive the oldman KK. Ninkani ya Nyumba mwebantu.
Why should u question KK’s opinion. Just speak your minds he is a Zambian just like any one and he can make a comment about politics or any issue that is happening in the country were he belongs.
#87 YOU ARE THE DEVIL’S WORKSHOP, PLEASE FIND SOMETHING TO DO. YOU SUBMIT A LOT OF RUBBISH, YOU MAKE ME SHUT DOWN EVERY TIME IREAD YO SENTMENTS.
#87, I didnt mean to send the same comment twice. Anyway, lets wait for November and we will see the results.
#68.
Not all grey hairs are a sign of wisdom. mind you while old men will dream, young men will see visions.
Joel 2:28
The Day of the Lord
28 “Afterwards I will pour out my Spirit on everyone: 2.28-32: Acts 2.17-21your sons and daughters will proclaim my message;
your old people will have dreams,
and your young people will see visions.
“Sata can make a good minister but not a good president.” What kind of logic is that? If Sata can make a good minister, equally he can make a very good president. Let’s go Sata, let’s go!!!
KK is now shifted goalposts from suporting HH to RB…His man lacks consistency
#35 good one, we should have just voted Miyanda and leave the three battling with themselves
how can sameone have a name king cobra.its not good to regrat.naver say we waer not told.VIVA RB
No. 20 Sebitwane. Some piece of advise 4 u.
-Avoid smoking Ganja early in the morning.
-Avoid relying on Icengelo and Mobi TV for data
-U can lie to anyone but don’t lie to yourself(Self deception is poisonous)
The real contenders for these elections are RB and Sata.
The difference between Sata die hards like me and RB blind followers is this:
-Sata die hards drive with head lights on during the day
-RB blind followers drive with headlights off at night!
To prove me right just drive to Soweto at night.
KK you just enjoy a free home and provoke us you cruel man. You want to continue killing us with RB. Your time is gone and you are now giving foolish advice. You old fool.
Ba KK is wrong to mention names, but honestly Sata is not jes material for the presidence for minister yes. We dont even know his foreign police, we should owez ask questions why FTJ didn’t pick him and why he can’t support him this tym.
KK is on record of misjudgment when he issues public statements. KK supported HH now “blood is thicker than water” hence the switch to support his relative.
We thank GOD for what KK did but I think he should not mis-slead us. In 2001 he endorsed Nervers and Mazoka but when LPM won he changed.You have seen what NERVERS has eneded up to be (K 15 Million).Some few days ago he called Sata and HH to his home and wanted them to form a pact. But when he received a house and pajero he changed the statement.
We should use our own judgment and not his directives. KOLOKOMBWA NGAKOKOLA, ASANGUKA AKAPALE. Dear bloggers vote a person of choice.
No 97. Bush Dizo
How can one have a name like Bush Dizo????????
I would rather be called King Cobra than Bush Dizo.
What surprises me is people who think that Sata will gain more votes from 2006 but refuse the same principle that HH will gain more votes. The question we are suppossed to answer is “In the absence of Levy, who is most likely to benefit from Levy’s 2006 vote?”. If you can honestly answer that question then you will know where your candidate stands. Levy won in Central, Western, n/western, northern and eastern. Who is most likely to benefit from those votes in the absence of Levy.
Mwanawasa picked RB for vice president not because he was ideal but the Late president needed to have someone dull as his vice clearly its not true that there no better leaders in MMD to out source from other parties.
“He (Sata) is good as governor and minister but I don’t think he can work as a president. I don’t hate him, but if voters elect him, it is their own fault,” Kaunda was quoted as saying by the state-owned Sunday Times newspaper.
Ba-Kaunda KK bakamba kudaala. I do not hate Sata but I think he is not fit to be Zambian President too like KK.
Pang’andafye na 4*4 mwasokolole nkama! You are such a let down. You should have been quiet and played a role of father to the 4 candidates frankly advising them unlikely publicly throwing your weight behind Shrek.
Nadabwa!
I was for RB bt KK has proved me wrong 4makin a wrong decision.He said SATA can mek a gud minister equally President coz for 1 to be President u nid 2start frm da root level
#Late Mwanawasa panicked to win the 2006 Presidential elections when Sir HH was talked about nicely by chief Mpezeni of Eastern province. So a group of MMD people were sent to Eastern province to meet Chief Mpezeni who again talked something nice about MMD. Eastern Province helped the late to win EP and ultimately the Zambian Presidency. Then to reward the EP people for a good job that was done, late Zambian President Mwanawasa then picked Banda to be his Veep for the GRZ. This may be disputed but I feel Chief Mpezeni had a lot of influence of RBB’s selection by late LP Mwanawasa.
KK should just keep quite………
KK should just thank the MMD for building him that mansion, he shouldn’t behave like a child such that when you give him sweet he supports you and compares you the other people who have never given him anything. Becoz RB handed a house to him he starts supporting him and saying foolish things about Sata. Chifonkofonko your mind is too old,just keep your big mouth shut.
fokofoko tell us about your in-law?
please that is just his opinion!!!
MMD is now UNIP
Thanks ba Kaunda for your wise words, for you to confirm that Sata can make a good Minister is clear message to us that we should vote for him. Thank you ba mudala.
KK is entilted to his opinion, leave him alone!
RB you been used as a “Pony in a chess game”. Wake up RB you are beign used as an instrument to hold on to power, the reality is most MMD members dont like you if anything your career is shot lived the party will not allow you beyond 2011. Its all about the Benjamins
The impression given by state media about Kaunda endorsing RB is wrong and mare propaganda. If it were an english language comprehension they would fail. HE DID NOT endorse RB in his speech which was properly written in yesterday’s postnewspaper. Yes he talked about his reservation about Sata being president but at same time KK did not say RB is the best candidate. KK would rather have MMD out of power as soon as possible. Neither did the mwanawasa family endorse RB. They are just watching and wishing him to lose. Actually RB will lose in Central province because of lack of support from Mwanawasa family. Please spare the old man he is innocent.
Ba kaunda, Idon’t understand this geriatric, is it schizophrenia or he is overwhelmed with a new house and he has had to say something least the house is taken back? my puzzle is.
1. If his pact worked with HH would he have still endorsed RB?
2. I take it that the pact was tyring to strengthen the opposition, is it SATA’s refusal to the pact, or was he trying to remove or disuade him from the presidential post by initiating the pact?
3. Is KK worried of the past deeds or is SATA so much a threat that all other parties are firing at him only? can somone help me solve this puzzle because its not making sense for KK to do this complete turn around.for me and my familys its PF.
Thank Kellis. I’ll vote for Banda.
Engines your analysis is very bad.First of all,what made KK to se RB is better?This was after the house we built him from our money (batasha kali kwisaya),was handed to him.Secondly the man does not know what he’s talking about,because a week ago he wanted PF&UPND to form a pact why?What was he looking for in that pact?His son supports UPND and he had seen his son coming in government using sata’s popularity,Now how can you trust such an old man?We dont want his advise because he doesnt stick to one idea.This man borrowed money anyhow because he thot no oneelse will rule zambia.We want change lets have different approach to policy making&implementation we are tired of MMD thieves.
PF goooooooooooo for it. Dont listen to KK, that house has made him create enemies than friends.
SHAME on you men. How can you be confused by one man opinion? KK is only one entitled to his opinion. If you have better men in mind why waste time scaring about KK’s opinion, you mean you cannot simply ignore and follow your minds? 4me both MMD and PF are shameless fighting brothers. we cant trust them anymore. UPND is safe haven, so I will Vote 4 HH. Kanshi mulamutina KK mudala wamano nowonder he built UNZA.
Shame that KK is trying to use RB as a stepping stone to revamp UNIP. Who doesn’t know about RB and UNIP membership. UNIP leader, your son has failed to put UNIP together and there you go supporting RB. The constitution is very clear, if you want to involve yourself in politics, then do so because you have every right but you must surrender the state sponsorship and the very house you have they have given you. The rules of the game are clear. Let us put it Sata wins or HH wins, what are you gona do? Sometimes, it’s better you reserve your secret vote or support to the ballot. People of Zambia will choose anyway,KK only one vote. VIVA ZED
GUYS EVERYONE PLEASE READ AND CONSIDER THIS;
CHILUBA ONE OF THE PROMINENT PPL IN MMD AND EVEN GAVE MWANAWASA THE PRESIDENCY (RIGGED) BUT WHEN HE TURNS ON HIM GOES TO SUPPORT SATA AND NOW PROBABLY BACK TO MMD’S RUPIAH. KK SUPPORTED HH BUT NOW THAT AN EASTERNER IS RUNNING HE IS ENDORSING HIM. THE PROBLEM IN ZAMBIA IS THAT WE HAVE PETTY POLOTICS AND POLITICS OF PERSONALITIES AND NOT IDEOLOGY AND PRINCIPLES LIKE THE USA:; THINK OF ALL THE CANDIDATES, HH WAS WILLING TO FORM PACTS WITH SATA, MMD JUST FOR HIS THIRST OF POWER. SATA WAS IN THE MMD BUT WHEN CHILUBA DID NOT PUT HIM AS SUCCESSOR HE QUIT TO FORM PF, HE WENT FROM HATING CHILUBA TO LIKING HIM JUST FOR SUPPORT AND NOW TO HATING HIM. RB SAM
Gentalmen lets just wait for 30th October 2008,We Vote and we pick a leader of our choice RB-RB my foot, to heal we are in the count down morments now lets forget about KK who did wrongs for Zambians he is sick in the Head lets go forward with Zambia.Politics is a game of numbers so lets wait and witness on on the 2nd of Novermber 2008,whe the counting is done.
KK he’s just too excited about the house and vehicle a he got, he should have just said thank you, coz he is entilted to that, and like him start praising RB as though the money use for a house and vehicle was his and yet its taxpayers money.
#118, Kaunda said RB is the best candidate. They showed the video on ZNBC and Muvi Tv. And also the family spokesperson for the Mwanawasa family said the family will support RB. Uselless MMD.
VIVA MFP
#6 Truee KK supported Savimbi; the people chose Neto, KK supported Nkhomo; the people chose Mugabe. KK gave us FTJ because he did not allow democracy in Unip to allow a good run against Chiluba.Now? There could be deal for KK’s Keen to take the VPship. Genuine MMD beware. Even wide mouthed Mulongoti could find himself on the streets. You are warned!!!!!
Mwebantu where’s Shakafuswa Jonas? I only wish had mentained this silence when Levy was alive, wud say he is a gud boy.
KK knows RB will teach him the trics of the sugar dady trends. What does he have to offer, after the nonses he let us go through. He’s just in favour of the UNIPist end of RB. Marabish! Viva Sata!!! Nipabwato!
THE SAME WITH RB. HE WAS A STAUNCH UNIP GUY (WORD EVEN HAS IT THAT HE IS STILL REGISTERED THERE) BUT THIS PARTY REMAINED ONLY POPULAR IN THE EAST AND NOW HE HAS GONE TO MMD JUST FOR A SHOT OF POWER, WHERE IS THE PRINCIPLE THERE AND STICKING BY YOUR CHOICES. PROBLEM AND BOTTOM LINE IS THAT ITS NOT JUST ONE INDIVIDUAL BUT OUR POLITICS ARE JUST POLARISED ON PETTY THINGS LIKE TRIBE, POWER AND OTHER THINGS UNLIKE THE USA WHERE ONCE A REPUBLICAN YOU BELEIVE IN LOW TAXES AND SMALL GVT AND DEMS VISE VERSA. ITS TIME WE DEMAND THESE PARTIES TO TELL US WHAT THEY STAND FOR NOT JUST WHO IS STANDING ON THEIR TICKET(WHICH CHANGES LIKE A BAD HABBIT)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#118 read the above story on endorsing RB
for 27yrs you ruled zed did you ever give Sata to rule for a day ? is it because of the house ? viva sata nipawatooooooooooo. RB CANNOT be compared to Man of action
KK, is not a sincere man,during his leadership he introduced a policy ” Going back to the land”, look at him now, where is he, in town when our Grand fathers died of stress as they had no skills in Agriculture.
The man has a college house in town,He has entirely refused to go back to the land.What i expected the government to do was build that college house ” Mansion” in his village so that he can boost agriculture sector.The man says one thing and does another, this is total error of judgement for KK……..
KK cannot lecture us on who to vote for. He is not a democrat. he is just looking for a soft person who will help rehabilitate him(KK).KK belongs to the era that has truely past. already he is running UNIP from his bedroom and the UNIP leadership is a preserve of his family.
KK will be proved wrong just like in 1991 and 2001 when we trounced him and the later when he backed Tilyenji, UPND and Nevers for electro pact to defeat MMD.
Afetr being given an unfinished house by MMD he backs RB.That is electro corruption. why be given now & unfinished structure. Why now. No wonder KK is never utilized for peace processes because he is disgraced, trounced in 1991. KK should retire.
Yes #118 please tell them. MMD voters are divided indeed. Who would in their right mind vote for a candidate from another party? Very shameful that there was no one in MMD apart from Magande who they rejected could be picked as a candidate. Shame go on vote for RB and see UNIP members being appointed to most of the Ministerial positions.
Ba KK politics is full of insults these days please stay away, we dnt want to disrespect you. VIVA SATA PA BWATOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. We shall cross the YAMBEZHI with bwato
You are RB CANNOT be compared to Man of action Sata RB was choosen when he came to buy Manualwer for his farm so what do you expert For RB
How come non of HH MPs are campaigning with him apart from Nkombo? We have not heard any statement from any NMC member or MP apart from Siakalima’s statement. Is it true that there is a rebellion in UPND gainst HH hence the silence? Where are Sejani, Muntanga, Hachipuka, Matonga and the likes? Smells a rat!!!!
Hope he is reading the comments. By the way do you remember how he ill treated the late Kebby? The man wanted to come back to power. Even now that he has seen big loop hole(RB) he will try again in some form.
Please, mind your language. KK could not be here. He could be wrong in his judgement but he remains our grand daddy. How can you insult your granny? You’d end up inviting curses upon yourself.
As for me…I’ll always listen to the wise man. Long live KK.
Shikulu just relax and watch the game.Pliz just enjoy yo new home and observe the politis of 2de. PIPO LETS CHANGE TIME IS NOW.
VJ off to South Africa for an ear oparation, is it true he going for an operation or is he going there for something else? e.g rigging ministry, are there no doctors here in Zambia who can attend to his ear? I don’t trust VJ.
KK use to stand agaist a Frog and there was not oppoIn the 27 years of Koki’s time there was no opposition parties, you oppose you die, the only opposition he would allow is a FROG with his stupid slogan Lesa kumulu KK panshi. There was serious shortage of food in this Country we use to queue up just to buy cooking oil, Sugar etc. The transport system was polarized to travel from Kitwe to Lusaka would take two days. This man should not be entertained in any way; he is such a Hopeless character. If I was Chiluba this KK would have been languishing in Jail up to this time. Not listen to his advice, he has failed to advice His Children look at Chilyeji. KK we know why you are supporting yo
Fellow Zedians UNIP is coming back in form of MMD after 30.10.08.
VOTE HHHHHHHHHHHHH for change. Kanshi By RB is Brother in-law TO KK.
Finish.
KK has said his views, and he had worked with both SATA and RB; he knows them.
SATA is not a presidential material; even Chiluba who was closet SATA could not risk giving the man the opposrtunity to lead the country.
SATA is a man of action, but under supervision of an authority higher than him.
This is exactly what Kaunda said; he did not want to fulfil people’s emotions and feelings but rather reality for the sake of mother Zambia.
Even all his genuine supporters know that SATA is a big risk, whom you cant tell which movie action he will take tomorrow.
For sure people someone being called King Cobra think about it, it will spit poisonous venom on you
And you KK you think you were a good president. Why were we queueing for sugar and cooking oil. You were good as freedom fighter (mposa mabwe) and not as president material.
You also that it was a pity if Mwanawasa won in 2001 and now you are there eulogising and dinning with Mrs Mwanawasa. Just keep quite we havent forgotten your sins!
Somebody wants to know about Shakafuswa. Shakafuswa is in a difficult position because central is supporting HH and with 2011 elections Shakafuswa does not want to be seen to be against his people for fear of losing in 2011. He is a clever champ.
WHY DOESNT KK COMMAND RESPECT LIKE MADELA?
MANDELA WHEN HE SPEAKS OUT THE ALL WORLD LISTENS BUT OUR KK IS NOT TAKEN SERIOUSLY BECAUSE PEOPLE DON’T TRUST HIM. HIS OPINION DOES NOT COUNT ANYWHERE IN THIS NATION LATER ON THE WORLD. SO HAVING SAID THAT KK CONTINUES TO SELF DESTRUCT LICK ALWAYS.
when ever former presidents talk without advisors, there true character shines. This KK as some one said and amplified also by #136 has a habit of supporting losers, in Angola, Zimbabwe and in Zambia etc.
he fired RB at NAMBOARD for corruption, so what is he telling us. Has RB repented???? we are yet to hear. after being corrupted with a house when he has one in Shambalakala, he starts backing RB? Shame, no wonder bemba’s told him he can only go to Shambalakale with Kapwepwe. It tell’s a lot about this man. MMD once stripped him of citizenship. so what has changed now for him to support MMD a party that booted him out!!!
HH’s MPs are preparing the ground for him. In today’s Post Chizyuka has told chief Nalubamba wise words. HH’s strategy is to let MPs all members campaign on their own not hanging around him.
Mulongoti has been demoted from being national manager of RB. He is now confined to coperbelt only
YABA!!!….WE ARE GOING BACK TO THE “TOBOMUTWE” and “AMASHOLA” DAYS…ALA BWAFYA SANA
My mother does not pay direct Tax that is why she is voting for RB, but i told her if RB wins her monthly Ration will reduce by 50% coze of the Taxes am paying,she has to make up her mind VIVA SATA VIVA LOW TAXES Copied by MMD
Yeah right KK. UNIP al the way? Fool!
BIG MOUTH MULONGOTI, BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
The big man has just said what he feels he should say. Every zambian is entitled to his/her opinion. At the end of the day it is your vote that will count and not opinios. Zambians, please go to polling stations in numbers and make your votes count. Dont just talk and talk and then let political cadres decide your fate.
Sad that the old man is meddling in the current game,this may back fire,naturally he was just supposed to stay away and just work with the new president whoever it may be not coming to this,influencing the voters with his endorsement, am smelling a rat on this one.
Ba KK mwikala patalala mwine apatalalika. A new house and new GX have confused you, mwayamba ukusabaila. In 2001 you recommended Mazoka, Mazoka and your confused son TJ, no one listened to you. You are at it again, sorry but it seems you have outlived your usefulness. Nacho its very unfair casenda Levy umwaice.
Twasanta mwane ba KK mwatutambula pali ba sata! but be fair and tell us more about RB as well maybe we hould all just vote for HH and see!
380 Patriotic Front members defect to MMD
By NKWETO MFULA
380 Patriotic Front members in Ndola on Saturday defected to the ruling MMD.
Minister of Commerce, Trade and Industry Felix Mutati welcomed the new MMD members in Twapia Township where he addressed a campaign rally to drum up support for MMD candidates, Rupiah Banda (presidential) and Mary Zambezi (Ndola Central Constituency).
Source:w w w . daily-mail . c o . z m
#151 KK does not command respect because he is a poor judge. he fails to read the correct mood. to begin with he stiffled opposing view during his time,he was a super dictator who run down Zambia the way Mugabe has done. we had shortage of everything, tissue paper, toothpaste, sugar, bread. Miners salary could not buy a pair of shoes, u had to save 6months to buy one.So many people died/disappeared during his rule. KK was cruel and respected only foreigners a problem that he indocrinated in us & todate due to his legacy we still respect foreigners than ourselves because he came from Malawi himself. Now banda Born In Zimbabwe, whats wrong with us??
People, what KK means is that Sata can work well under someone and not him at the helm.I agree with him.
#140,Ba Great Kalu
For you it would smell a groundnut when every MP in UPND is making statements like what is happening with people like Teta, Mulongoti and the host of them. I’m of the opinion that the lesser the statements from everyone the better. People should talk less and work more. The talking culture in Zambia is in a mess. The working culture is equally in a mess. Zambia is in a mess, we desparately need a saviour. May God bless my Zambia.
a kaunda mwakota ta!!!!!!
#162 You are so fickle. What has that got to do with Ha Ha Ha? If they were coming to Ha Ha Ha yes!
Blimey!
Ba KK,if he wanted HH(UPDN) and Sata(PF)pact then why again support RB.There is no sense in what he was doing.What if HH after the pact ,was he going to declare the support for RB?Mr kaunda,u might have ruled Zambia for 27 years,but i my own opnion you contributed to collapse of Most companies in Zambia.You also contributed to the much poverty we have than any other President in Zambia.Do you even know that Zambian Kwacha was more strong that the British Pound?So Dr KK,just keep quite,you’re a failure at its’ worst.
Vote for young,strong,energetic,rich and industrous young leaders.Abash the resurection of UNIP,cheap lies and fake promises from recycled and unprencipled politicians like sata.VIVA HHHHHHHH.
it’s a pitty KK continues to be divisive, no wonder he is even being sidelined in the region to help with peace deals in kenya, zimbabwe, drc, etc. he killed UNIP by turning it into a family party. he never supported chiluba, never supported mwananwasa and now he just want to support his relative. let him do other progressive things than dividing the nation. his time is over. he should also remember that a hard working minister can make a good head of state unlike a failed governor and failed head of NAMBOARD!!
When people starts getting old they start bejaving like kids,same like Kaunda.He shud just concentrate on eating vegetables plse.
i mean behaving!
Banda warns UPND
By WALLEN SIMWAKA and JERRY MUNTHALI
ACTING President, Rupiah Banda, yesterday arrived in Livingstone with a message that he was in Southern Province to dismantle the support of the United Party for National Development (UPND).
He said the crowd that welcomed him at Livingstone International Airport was evidence that the opposition in Southern Province was becoming unpopular.
Source: Source:w w w . daily-mail . c o . z m
kk and chiluba
can FTJ and KK agree…………..just know that its disasta
Other former presidents in other countries can give thir advice. Now you want to disrespect a former leader. We wanted change and got our fingers burned by the FTJ crew. Now we want to pick one of the FTJ crew when the founding father is giving us advice. The same way Madiba just mentioned a few words about Mugabe and that’s all it takes. Take Heed. Mr. Sata has a lot to say but why was it okay for FTJ to support him in 2006? If KK had sided with Mr. Sata it would be oky wouldn’t it. KK knew both men well and Mr. Sata kept schtum when his peopel were suffering for 10 years. Now he want to be the Nation’s messiah, he’s having a laugh.
Then KK tell us why you fired Banda!
Fews days ago you were supporting HH but today you want to continue misdirecting us.
Also tell us why you think Sata can not make a good president!!!
Just go and enjoy your pension oldman!!!
You overzealous people complaining about Super kenny. Super kenny, KK, simply meant that amopng the two candidates Hon Sata and RBB, RBB was better for Zambian President compared to Hon Sata wgo is only fit to be a Minister or Governor.
Otherwise, KK is for the UPND’s HH. Just wait and see – Super Kenny will clarify his point soon.
WE ARE WINNING HH…ON TV YOU GAVE US BEST MESSAGE OF HOPE…PLS THE BEST MAN IS HH..LETS ALL VOTERS SUPPORT HH.
How can an educated person like yourself entrust your child’s future in uneducated man like Sata. We’re living in a volatile world full of complex challenges. Formal academic qualification must be a prerequisite to anyone who runs for Republican presidency.
SATA
Born: 1937
Education Background: Unknown
Positions Held:
• District Governor Lusaka
• Member of Parliament for Kabwata Constituency
• Minister of state Local Government and Housing
• Minister of Local Government and Housing
• Minister of Health
• Minister of Labour and Social Services
• Minister without Portfolio
• National Secretary – MMD
• President – Patriotic Front
• Business Consultant
Experience in Gov
Nipabwatooooo bebele bane! Go King Cobra Go Chilufya. This is our time to paddle.
Keep on dreaming ba mudala
no.30. well done thats good thniking,and foward with pabwato
GOD BLESS ZED
Experience in Government: Vast
PERCEPTIONS
Positives
• Man of Action (Worker)
• Forgiving personality
• Understands government operations
• Pro-poor leadership
Negatives
• Brutal and dictatorial tendencies
• Anti Foreign Investors
• Sick for the Job
• Too Old for the Job
• Hyper-active (Needs Control
All who have critised kk are not serious in life. kk is the father of this nation he knoz these p/candidates very well especialy RB and Sata. kk has not even looked at parties but individuals even when MMD had put him in prison and troubled him too much still he sees a RB material not part itself. the other thing is during his govmet he had sata close to him and RB as well. Why sata not supported all along, because he (sata) is a cruk, not honest, thug, one who does not stick to his words just as his kaponyas in stations behave. HH is the one with better vision for zambia.
KI HH FELA…KI MUUNA YA NA NI LILATO KWA SICHABA…LU VOTELE HH..KI FALIZOHO FELA…
#30 good point zambia need such a president anywhere in the world say uk or usa entire europe people believe in hard work what a country is zambia where a woman delivers by herself within the premise of clinic/hospital. well for me on this so called sata’s harshness is the sweet thing to change the working culture only can we attract even more serious investors into our great nation.My friend on this one we can form a pact.
#180 you left out something – Education qualifications
– Standard six ungraded
– Lilayi police constable certificate Grade D
Experience:
– Experienced in keeping council money in private accounts
– Experienced in carrying K2billion tax payer money in a briefcase
– managed disastrous merzaf project
– several women and children in Lusaka
GIGO, THANKS MAN!!
KK must emulate his freind Madiba.He has not taken sides between JZ and Mbheki power struggle.He will be brused like he was in 1991.His
some things the way they happen,i wil never ever want to listen to politics coz its seems their no logic in politics.and am going to destroy my voters card i dont think it means anything.
FORN THE BENEFIT OF OUR OWN CHILDREN..WE HAVE TO INVEST IN EDUCATION FOR THEM TO HAVE BETTER LIVING STANDARDS…PLS VOTERS HH IS OFFERING FREE EDUCATION TO THE NATOIN…LET US GIVE HIM THE BEST VOTES…
CAN SOME ONE HELP ME UNDERSTAND THIS,HH HAS ALREADY BEEN CAMPAIGNING IN WESTERN,CENTRAL,COPPERBELT&NORTH WESTERN AND SO HAS RB,THESE PROVINCES MAKE UP ABOUT 50% OF THE VOTES, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE SATA IS HAS ONLY BEEN TO COPPERBELT AND NORTHERN PROVINCE ,AND HE SEEMS TO BE STACK IN NORTHERN PROVINCE.HH SEEMS TO BE GETING A LOT OF SUPPORT IN WESTERN,NORTH WESTERN AND CENTRAL PROVINCES,IS LUSAKA GOING TO BE A BATTLE GROUND PROVINCE.?
And quit smoking marijuana upon told that the heart was getting bigger ang bigger…..aah bwafya!!
# 165, Biggie Jim
They need not to make statements anyhow but should be seen campaigning. If they do this, the media will pick it and report about their activities. Do your own investigation and you will soon know that things are not the way Andy (MHSRIP) left them. Dont leave in denial, there is a crisis in UPND as HH has failed to unite the party. Being educated and wealthy has gone to his head and has eneded up annoying a lot of his colleagues who have chosen to remain silent. Mark my words on this one.
VIVA HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Ba kaunda bamudala yashani ?.Bigge namukota not iyo mwa-amba iyakubwatabwata ,iyo te best.Nganikabondi kaminasha kumutima ifi ninshi bigge chimo amano kwati esther phiri uwambile ukusapota abayashi ba levy afta ukumusova ka bondi.Tontokanyenifye bwino bakamba pali uyo mankucha(money)banda.
SATA is the same as Chiluba,
He was the closet person to Chiluba and supported the ‘third term’ to the bitter end.
Chiluba is plunderous as he has been suspected to be, could also not afford to risk the nation to SATA.
Chiluba, at least managed to tame SATA by eventually placing him as Minister without portifolio, whatever it meant.
Giving SATA presidency is the same as giving FJT Chiluba presidency again.
Sata has never explained nor appologised his bid and fight for third term to the zambian public.
SATA told the nation that not all he criticized LPM was genuine.
Is this the man you can risk?
Viva Sata.
Ubwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaatooooooooooooooooooooooo!
I’M IN NEED OF THE FOLLOWING BOOK: THE INVASION OF THE MMD BY UNIP – BY RB (EDITED BY KK)
WE SHALL NOT GO BACK TO THE UNIP ERA IN THE NAME OF RB.
Number 145, you are awrong one for failing to rate the mistakes between kk and chiluba, your hatred my dear is bad. KK mistakes cannot be compared to chiluba’s. tho chiluba persecuted kk yet chiluba did the worst in this country. even that languange you are using came from chiluba. why shud you continue to hate kk with few countable mistakes like queing for sugar etc, while chiluba destroyed industries across the country hence no jobs for our children including your children. think twice mr foged grey zulu.
Kuyabebele all over again. What did KK do in his 27 years except mess everything up and take us from a second world to a third world country? Who is he to lecture anyone on presidential qualities? Fumapo ku Malawi…
Ba Big KK try as much as possible to avoid such attention. We are aware of your secret Rendezvous…
Emulate Mandela.
HH has shown alot of courage by unitting the UPND after the death of andy (MHSRIP), if it were some other parties would have died. # 195 u got it wrong. HH is the man and we are behind him. we admit the death of andy had very big blow on the upnd but we are rising believe me. u will be shocked. VIVA HH
#193 Sata cant move at the pace of HH. Sata is an old sick man. He needs a lot of rest too. RB is able to compete with HH because RB is using a helicopeter otherwise his age would also not permit. Sata also has to spend time in Northern because MMD is strong there and if he loses nothern as he did in 2006 then it is came over for him.
KK has said what any parent would say.
When it comes to danger, diplomacy is never a priority.
Reality has to be stated, and a warning has to be made concerning SATA.
We cannot afford to risk the nation to SATA; just check what has happened to Zimbabwe. Chiluba knew that giving this nation to SATA it would become irretrievable.
A man who wantrs to chase investors, is da big danger to our nation.
You may say ‘no, he says he has changed mind, he wont chase’. But who would want top risk trusting a changing man like SATA.
He makes it very difficult for us to trust him by always convincing us that he is not worth trusting.
Imagine, even Chiluba was scared risking this nation to SATA.
Have you noticed that KK can actually jinx a candidate? He wanted to win in 2001, he Lost. In 2006, he wanted Nevers or his Son, the Both Lost. In 2005, he wanted his Son again, but the result is known. KK did not want FTJ, but he won. KK did not want Levy, but he won. If I were Banda I would receive his endorsement with apprehension. His wishes never come true, not even his wish for an egg for each Zambian daily.
Sata is always erratic and impulsive. Flip-flopping like a wizard. Who’d want such a man as the Head of State? Only jackals.
You recall what he said about forgiving ka Kafupi about his graft cases?? Only those with political amnesia would forget.
BA KK HIS NOW SIDING WITH MASHILINGI BWEZANI FOR THE HOUSE WHICH WAS BUILT USING TAXPAYERS MONIES.WHAT LEADERSHIP SKILLS DOES BWEZANI HAVE AFTER BEING WAKEN FROM THE SLUMBERS.PABWATO
Does someone have news on the rigger vj’s “real” mission in sa? Maybe he has gone to inspect the ballot papers?????
PIPO did you hear what HH said on ZNBC tv ‘s road 2 plot one ?Think thats how the presidential candidate supposed to present himself with alot of straight manifesto & solutions not politics of finger pointing thoz are old old politics.WAT DO U THINK WITHOUT FAVOURS?
No one can deny the fact the SATA is a hard worker.
But you dont get an Office Orderly or messenger and put them as MD because they are hard working. That would be the greatest joke of HR practice.
SATA needs supervision; he cannot head a nation, NO!
KK, I salute you for your courage to speak on the dangers with playing with our nation. Zambia is a real nation, it is not a TOY.
How come people forget:
1)NAKAWALA SAGA.
2)THIRD TERM
3)PEPERTUAL DIVISION IN PF
You cannot have a president who is always quarelling with his MPs and other party members.
We cannot allow the epidemic in PF to spread to the rest of Zambia, NO.
Ba KK has always had poor political judgement, right from the days of liberation. Eg in Zim he backed Joshua Nkomo, in Angola, he backed Savimbi and in RSA he initially never backed Mandela. History is there for all to see. No wonder Chiluba and MMD thumped him terribly in 1991. Therefore, KK’s endorsement has never worked for this country. Fear not my beloved country for KK can never sway any opinion in Zambia. Just check his record where endorsements are concerned. In 2006, the late LPM described his endorsements as a curse rather than a blessing and that HH should get worried! Actually, KK unknowingly campaigns for SATA whenever he endorses because the urban populace does like KK at all.
KK is not the right person to tell us how to vote. He is just happy tha his UNIP chola boy has got chances of making it though narroew ones. He supported Mazoka, his child TJ and nephew Nevers in 2001, then HH in 2006 because of his son’s involvement in ill fated UDA. This was besides the presence of better options like late Levy. Now he says Rupiah. Well he always loses. Then he says if Zambians elect Sata it is their fault. Well said KK. You are not Zambian. How about telling us about Malawi. Mambala wakota.
OK, how about the hacking of innocent people in Chawama?!?
#212 You are a typical Zambian. Ba some of us. Mwakulabola ifyofine.
Ubwato.
viva HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
212, well put. Sata works hard but that is not the only attribute for the highest office in the land, its actually not a necessity as others will work! Abash undiplomatic presidential aspirants.
October 30 projected results…RB and HH will share votes in Western province and a bit of Northwestern. HH will as usual get the Southern province votes and RB will do the same in Eastern province. And then SATA will as usual get landslides in Lusaka, Copperbelt, Luapula, Northern, Central and a bit of Northwestern. Zambians just get ready for a SATA Presidency!!!
By the way, hope you are aware that Copperbelt, Northern, Lusaka, Southern and Eastern provinces have the highest number of registered voters. Western, Central, Luapula and Northwestern figures have always been low. SATA has voters in three of the five major provinces as well as votes in two of the four remaining provinces with low registration figures. Hope you know what that means…I am not PF but lets brace ourselves for any eventuality especially the SATA Presidency!!!
220, mathematically you might be right. However, the onus is on us to change this worrying scenario. Just imagine Sata in that front seat. Oh my God what a nightmare turning into reality!
Ba #213 pls get your facts right before you put them up for reading.Its not right for KK to side or comment on these issues but it is wrong for you to mislead people. Please check you facks about KK and Mandela.
PF is now more credible than MMD or UPND.
a person with proven record? Why doubt your own Constitution by fearing SATA a man of ACTION!
I WARN YOU NOW! IF RB IS FORCEFULY PUT BY DECEPTION, HE WILL LIVE HIS THREE YEARS TRYING TO CLEAN HIS BRIBES CASES AND THE LEGAL BATTLES TO COME? Timely warning to all “FARMERS”
#212 you are right on the spot. I like people who debate with points and reasoning.
Abena Zambia lets refuse this back door entry of UNIP through the back door, here see children are now being forced to fortfeit lessons and go and wave at politicians in this era, tell me isnt this UNIP? we used to be forced in KK’s era to go to far away places to cheer and wave flags, hungry as kids and even be involved in all sorts of accidents and no politician will help the families involved if any such thing happened , Zambian our children have rights too. very soon RB and co. will impose state of EMERGENCIES, see ka mulongoti is promising us war agaisnt anybody agaisnt them. You should see them corrupt and not say anything just like in the UNIP days but with a new name, “MMD” VIVA PF
IT WRITEN IN BLACK AND WHITE THAT SATA HAS WON THESE ELECTIONS .
RB SECOND HH THIRD AND GEN LAST
KK NEXT TIME HE WILL SUPPORT COZMO MUMBA AND SITEING WITH HON CHISHIMBA ,ZEDS HONESTLY WHO CAN VOTE FOR CHISHIMBA IF HE STOOD ON PF TICKET ? COS HE HAS NO VISSION FOR MOTHER ZAMBIA .
WHY ARE THEY SCARED OF SATA THEY ALL KNOW THAT HE CAME SECOND FROM LPM SO WHAT WILL STOP HIM THIS TIME FROM COMMING OUT NO. 1
ZEDS CAN KK TELL THE NATION WHY HE FIRED RB AT(NOMBORD) NOWONDER NOMBORD ARE NO LOMGER THERE.
VOTE RB VOTE MORE CORRUPTION VOTE RB VOTE MORE LOAD SHEDING AND HOGH FUEL PRICES IS THIS THE LEGARCY THAT RB WANT TO LEAVE SHAME .
PEOPLE ARE SLEEPING IN TENTS IN THERE OWN COUNTRY?
#42 and # 17 i agree with you, # 43 you are not even in Zambia are you sure you will vote? KK cannot be lured by a house , he knows that’s from the people of Zambia. That was just some advice to some of you who eyes have been covered with a piece of cloth. Take it or leave it ka?
BY the way Sata is due for review, he doesnt want to go for fear of the Zambians knowing. Advise him to comply ka.
ViVa to the future of Zambia.
#199 God bless u KA TONA for spiritual discernment.
Nipa bwatooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Chabe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#225 Sata and RB are the only candidates in this election to have used tax payers for personal business. Sata got K2 billion and RB got K15 million. Both Sata and RB are from UNIP and no wonder there mentality is similar. There is not difference between PF and MMD other than the name.
Ba Frank Talk Keep quiet.Ukubooko naku putuka! Ni pabwatoooooooooooo. KK you have said Sata worked well in all his Ministries,but said nothing on RB.Tell us about the K20,000.00 and why you fired RB from NAMBOARD,Especially tell us on 20 pin,what happened???? RB is a Corrupt chap, HH a thief. How does he has alot of Money? Answer-
In the last 3 months Rupiah has been acting as Vice president, I have seen enough brown envelopes to drive me crazy…
I CAN BET ANY ONE SATA HAS ALREADY LOST, HE CANT REACH EVEN A QUARTER OF ZAMBIA THIS TIME IN 20 DAYS.
Ba kk, you should be a sleeping partner in this compaigns;WE DONT’want the likes of Kenya and Zimbabwe here.Keep your prefered Candidate to your self than publicly announcing.We all need decent accomodation.RB 25 DAYS OUT OF OFFICE.VIVA PF PA BWATOOOOOOOOFYE
LEVELED PLAYING FIELDS OR NOT SATA FOR PRESIDENT COME NOVEMBER 01
EVEN IF ELECTIONS WERE HELD TODAY SATA WILL BE THE 4 ZEDS LEADER
HE HAS WAT IT TAKES AL WE WANT IS CHANGE LET HH RULE OR SATA BUT NOW HH IS FAR FROM LEADING ZAMBIA MAYBE IN THE NEXT LIFE I WILL VOTE 4 HIM
BUT COME SEPTEMBER NIMUCIBWATOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO CHABE
SATA WE ARE BEHIND YOU
I want more popularity polls. Iam scared your favourites may not make. I want real analysis. We can forgive KK, he is suppose to be neutral just like the chiefs, but his advice is timely
#230 in 1964 Zambia was richer than singapore but today singapore is richer than zambia because of good management. HH is rich because of good investment practices. Sata at his age has no farm. What does he do in his spare time. Oh I forgot, he goes womanising. If Sata had not spent his money on women but instead bought on cow in 1962 when HH was born Sata would have been a very rich person by now. But he doesnt even have a chicken run. No wonder villagers/farmers cant vote for him.
This ‘founding father’ is gone nuts!! So he is religously a UNIP father thru and thru.
KK was supposed to be the father of the nation. It is clear that this man is confused by his white handkerchief and vegebles.
But KK ni marubbish. Viva pa bwato now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#212 thats theory.You comparison is not real.Look sata got off the hook with MMD before 2001 elections and contested he lost offcourse but he never stopped his strategy,today he has managed to have the majority because he knows how to run a party and the affairs and when he talks he gives hope to the people as the next president.So becareful sata is not what you think is beyond your ignorance.
I wonder if most the bloggers are aware that Zed was under economic sanctions by the western powers for 10 solid years becoz of the support for freedom struggle in southern africa? The collapse of the zedian economy was mainly as a result of these sanctions and not entirely KK`s fault as most people would have us believe. Zim is an example of what economic sanctions can do to a country even if its leader is the most genius being. So stop your petty blame games especially concerning matters over which you have little or no data.
Who amongst us both dead and living can say they could have held the zedian economy in its pre-76 conditions. Vokiza tukumfwe mune.
RB is winning, PF fanatics u better get your life jackets coz yo tiny lil’ ‘canoe’ is sinking real fast…
Viva RB
Man of action, which actions are we talking about?
Mugabe, who is SATA’s inspiration is also man of action
Is that the action you want in our country Zambia?
Reduced tax? What reduced tax are we talking about?
Destroy the economy and reduce tax, what value is it?
You reduce tax rate to 10% for Zimbabwean workers today, and tell me their benefit in their current economic situation.
What we need is improved economic environment where employers will be able to pay descent wages, such that even the current tax policy will be seen as nothing for most of the working force.
Not spoiling the economy by chasing investors and reducing tax, what value is that?
Kk should go to shambalakale farm in chinsali and farm as he had promised the nation. The only people supporting him are thos who stand to benefit from RB and those too young to remember unips reign of terror. Be warned!
SATA 2006 support was more formidable than this time around and yet he lost. Interpolate that into his diminished present support.
Then consider PF MP’s decampaining exercise.
On the other hand consider the time left, too short and he is broke, he cant even hire ten helicopters to cover up the short time left.
He is sick and if he tries to push himself, he will colapse and that will be terrible as far as his already suspect health status.
gray hair is wisdom indeed,but the old man is now misleading us ba kaunda which one now………..HH,sata or RB,looks like he(KK) is gumbling
The motives of SATA’s supporters is clearly suspect. Why? Because no one in his right mind would vote for a proven hooligan and potential tyranny.
The motives are clearly suspect.
Pabwato my a$$, come Nov1, you’ll be singing to MMD’s tune! That goes for Fred Mmembe as well, as the saying goes, $hit has finally hit the fan…! As for HH, I won’t even waste my blogging energy talking bout’ a dreamer & joker like him…
you can imagine only three quarters of pf are insulting kk. what does it mins
I strongly believe that this time around SATA wont have it easy in LUSAKA. If you saw the numbers in 2006 at SATA’s filling-in of normination papers, you will understand. This time, you could literally estimate numbers in attendance from your head.
Please people that is K.K’s opinion and zambians come 30th the will choose whom the think will move this country forward. Even if RB may win the truth is his not the best candidate and corruption will contnue if such men like RB are allowed to take power.
To those abroad get these facts.hh is getting it, why? Because the situation now is different, there is no excitement of ubwato anymore people are wise/remember 22 pf mps he antagonised, one of them is my uncle and we as a family you think are fools. Most of us are voting for hh on 30 Oct including pf 22 families. Come back to Zambia so that you vote for your dream ubwato otherwise you will ever remain in your self imposed perpetual exile.
The SATA support base is clearly PF members, finito. The language tells it all. Very few outsiders support PF.
i have just reported for work and i have not been able blog since i was attending My Granny’s funeral in the copperbelt. i really missed all you guys… especially my crew from the Front of Patriotism…POPO,Osama Bin Zed, Bwato, Man Friday and a bunch of you guys…Now this thing with the old man is a bit disheartening, is it because his son a political failure endorsed RB? Besides there are a lot hot bullets we have chosen to bury which we received from him when he was president.so let him just enjoy the new house and the respect we have given him….PABWAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTOOOO>>>>>
KAUNDA IS NOT A RIGHT PERSON TO ADVISE THE NATION ABOUT WHO TO LEAD US. REGARDLESS OF BEING THE LIBERATOR, HE HAS NEVER BEEN DEMOCRATIC. HE SUPPRESSED POTENTIAL LEADERS LIKE KAPWEPWE WHO REALISED THE IMPORTANCE OF DEMOCRACY AS EARLY AS 1970 WHEN KAPWEPWE FORMED UPP. THE DEATH OF KAPWEPWE ARE SOME OF THE ANSWERS HE HAS TO ANSWER.
Check the statistics of LUSAKA inhabitants and you will understand why I am sayig that SATA may not even have lusaka this time around.
#248 (Al Fahim), you seem to a calm fellow on #241, then one mode-swing, you start swearing. Calm down…these are national issues.
If does not help to show us that you have see a few american movies.
Ba PF bachimwa kale. Kala azi PF. Why are you moving like a fish. Suziba ati RB ni boma
HH waboola (HH has come)
Countdown: 24 days and we are counting.
For your own personal information here are some of my names Maestro Hhehhehhehhe ‘Hamwaambwa Mugungulu Mwaanga’. I come from Mapanza where VJ originates.
# 162 Those people you are saying that are PF members who defected to MMD are actually MMD members, we know these political gimmicks,If you are new in politics continue to believe such nonsense from the government controlled media.
To those abroad get these facts.hh is getting it, why? Because the situation now is different, there is no excitement of ubwato anymore people are wise/remember 22 pf mps he antagonised, one of them is my uncle and we as a family you think are fools. Most of us are voting for hh on 30 Oct including pf 22 families. Come back to Zambia so that you vote for your dream ubwato otherwise you will ever remain in your self imposed perpetual exile.
#255
A lot of PF supporters have that history well in their heads and it explains their agitations.
That is history my friend although history tends to repeat itself.
Western, Southern, Eastern, Norhwestern provinces are no go areas for SATA. The best chancefor him was to go the pact way with upnd alas the chance has gone. Reason ? Selfish, myopic and less grey matter. simple.
#253 ANONYMOUS, YOU SHOULD GET PREPARED FOR A DISAPPOINTMENT. TELL YOUR PEOPLE THE PAINING FACT THAT BANDA IS NOT MWANAWASA. PEOPLE WERE JUST VOTING FOR MWANAWASA NOT MMD.
RB MAY BE THE THIRD IN THIS COMING ELECTIONS.
MARK MY WORDS.
Some of you bloggers dont even have voters cards and you wont vote some of us who will vote we will vote for Micheal Chilufya Sata…..finito…Not for KK or for Fred Memebe but for us ordinary Zambians who dangle at the end of the chain.We dont expect to be millionaires we just expect an efficient and effective goverment System coz thats the only way we will get the basic needs you pipo take for granted like just some medical attention from a DOCTOR!! some quality education a healthy enviroment a well looked after police for our safety so no one steals the LITTLE we have…
KK should stay out of day to day politics. Where have you heard Nelson Mandela telling South Africans who should lead them? KK still thinks he owns Zambia. Yes he did some good during his time but he also did some bad stuff. This time he should stay out of politics and enjoy retirement.
as for me and my family we shall vote for bashikulu ba sata.he is the man we pray to see at the supreme court taking oath in a few weeks time.ubwatooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooopfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpf.ubwatoubwato
Sata and HH must reconsider a pack before it is too late.
*pact
#263
What are your motives behind your support for SATA. A GUY who was advocating for a third term for FTJ? I know your answer, you dont have to answer my question.
#263
BTW which people? My fellow villagers at Kazungula or zambezi?
SATA will never reach them!
bwana Pan-Africanist #257, don’t confuse my sarcastic lingo for swearing!? It’s how I express myself, and if u don’t like it, tough!!! And what do American movies have to do with anything?!?…blow me
#266
It is very evident from your language that you support SATA regardless of his well known short comings. This is no longer surprising!
Instead pray that SATA wont dieof a heart attack soon or when he comes out of this self inflicted delusion of becoming President of Zambia.
243 your comment would be different had you been in zambia,you do not feel what we fell as zambians,our taxes are really too high,if ministers and all those big fishes of govt sacrificed,things would be better,do u knw hw the common zambian suffers,for all u know,ministers are given free fuel,i wonder if they pay their bills,kids taken to skool,yet they wantd an increment of which RB kept quiet about until he was endorsed president
#267 pacts have never worked in zambia’s political history. you can form a pact if you have same ideology. otherwise VIVA HH
% RB % SATA % HH
LSK 20 53,000.00 50 132,500.00 30 79,500.00
CB 19 44,650.00 55 129,250.00 26 61,100.00
SP 10 20,900.00 06 13,200.00 85 185,900.00
EP 82 162,360.00 09 17,820.00 09 17,820.00
NP 21 37,380.00 71 126,380.00 08 14,240.00
LP 25 25,000.00 66 66,000.00 09 9,000.00
CP 32 36,800.00 29 33,350.00 39 44,850.00
NW 60 63,000.00 10 10,500.00 30 31,500.00
WP 42 42,000.00 10 9,500.00 49 48,500.00
485,090.00 538,500.00 492,410.00
%TAGE 31.99 35.52 32.48
N.B.
This an official prediction with voter turnout expected to 1,516,000
the fact that kk acknowledged SATA as a hard working person in all areas he held responsibility over is proof enough that he is a good leader and will be more responsible as a president. VOTE SATA instead of RB. its the small responsibility that make us who we are. about KK endosing RB was a bad joke. kk is getting old he must have missed a line or somebody wrote that for him. kk was not a good leader he is partially the reason for our poverty in Zambia. guys be real abena Venon, katele, mabenga, mbita ba katwipasha. they just want to finish up Zambia.abash MMD and HP. vote UPND OR PABWATO PF POWER.
BA K K THANKS FOR YOUR ADVISE BUT WE WONT BUY THAT.
It doesn’t take a genius to figure out that the only way to dislodge MMD in our simple majority ‘democracy’, is to form a meaningful PACT! Incase u forgot, 2006 was (MMD 43%;PF 29.4%;UDA 25.3%;HP 1.6%;APC 0.8%). Simple maths shows that Cycle Mata & HH collectively got 54.7% which is a majority vote!!! But since these two blokes are both too selfish & filled with vanity, mark my words! RB will find himself in State House, something the old bloke neva dreamt of!! As for Miyanda, I don’t know whether the man is just insane or plain DAFT!!!
The people who support sata can concoct the bitterest medicine, climb the urglist hill and cry in the most notorious hidden tongue and hope to invoke a spell of the most terrible type. Nix. SATA is a loser! finito All that will be in vain.
Grow up it is just impossible for SATA to win. Impossible.
Pa Zed tulaba bwangu. All the presidential materials that we have all have a history both good and bad. Lets look at what one can deliever. Better uneducated but able to bring food to the table. How many graduates are out there and cannot deliver? We need action. Think of all Zambians and not just the 20% that are able to work. educated as I am, I will go for PF and Sata………….His advisors are sound people like Lubinda.Nipabwaaaaaatoooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lets for give the old man kk because of the house he has gone mad.shikulu ni pa bwato.
CHECK YOUR FACTS GUYS,IN 2006 SATA WON LUSAKA DISTRICT AND NOT LUSAKA PROVINCE. THE PROVINCE INCLUDES LUANGWA, LUFUNSA, CHONGWE, KAFUE,CHILANGA AND LUSAKA WEST. IN THESE AREAS MMD WON BY LANDSLIDE. THIS TIME SATA ONLY HAS CB, LUAPULA AND NORTHERN UNFORTUNATELY LUAPULA HAS A VERY SMALL POPULATION.IN SHORT SATA ONLY HAS HAS 3 PROVINCES AND HIS VICTORIES IN THESE PROVINCES WILL NOT BE LANDSLIDE. MMD WILL HAVE LANDSLIDES IN WESTERN, EASTERN AND LSK RURAL, NORTHWESTERN AND CENTRAL THEN COME SECOND IN THE REST OF THE PROVINCES. HH WILL TAKE SOUTHERN AND COME SECOND WHERE MMD WILL BE FIRST.
Imwe ba Business what Pact?!! OH! you don’t leave in Zambia so you don’t know what we are facing…the high taxes, expensive school bills, accoodation and the likes…Bwafya….Pabwaaaaaatooooooooooo>>>>>
kILIMUZU means kambuma or kayobela those fetish small people used in wichtcraft they have small bodies with big heads and red eyes
KK’s advice is timely.Ps dont say you were not told. Sata can work
well under RB as Veep. The winner takes it all on 30th October,2008.
Vote RB!
SATA CV
Hobbies
Smoking Dagga with FTJ
Producing children
SATA CV
Hobbies
Smoking Dagga with FTJ
Producing children
– RB SATA HH
LSK 53,000 132,500 79,500
CB 44,650 129,250 61,100
SP 20,900 13,200 185,900
EP 162,360 17,820 17,820
NP 37,380 126,380 14,240
LP 25,000 66,000 9,000
CP 36,800 33,350 44,850
NW 63,000 10,500 31,500
WP 42,000 9,500 48,500
TOTAL485,090 538,500 492,410
TURNOUT 1,516,000
Is int KK supposed to have called Sata and HH for some indaba just a while ago? One would suppose that KK would have been moving in the direction of endorsing either one of them. I’d suppose by endorsing HH the big man would’ve shown some consistency seeing he had endorsed him in 2006, or is there a missing link here?
#286! Baawiso!!!i fwabupuba ukutali…ukokwine….
HH you will never be a president UBEPELEFYA.
#282 MMD will have landslide in Eastern provinces. and not western, northwestern, central and lusaka there ur wrong.
#286 mwachilaba your name??yama mwalipena and i can you don’t have anything to do please surf other sites and for you pleasure and amusement i recommend HORNY PLANET.COM
Nizee. i feel so sorry for people like you. use the education you are claiming to have and make right judgements. the man you have in mind CANNOT make a good president. its having irresponsible citizens like you that will make this country worse. what is obtaining in the country at the moment although not ok but we are driving forward your man will reverse all we have gained. people wise up
PABWAAAAAATOOOOOO>>>> we have a leader at work and president, that is Micheal Sata…
MUH BA LT NANOMBA TAKULI LATEST?I LOGGED OUT 2HOURS IN THE HOPE OF FINDING A NEW TOPIC WITH MORE THAN 100 COMMENTS! GOD HELP US
Ba KK how can you be so happy with the leadership of Nyama Soya, when we have seen how desperate and corrupt he has been in the recent past…..Pabwaaaaaatooooooooo>>>>>
We certainly believe by history that as evidenced above people that can advise us keep on shifting GOAL posts … wh knows when theyb wake up tomorrow they wud say MULONGOTI,,, vj…..
only God Knows…..
NON PARTISAN
#264 Uku ekulanda mwebaume, BA SATA niba Kateka.
Good Governor GOOD MINISTER and all the goodies continues, man of action and goal oriented.
VIVA PF and Sata Chilufya Micheal.
pf we are coming slowly but sure and u old man u will be dealt with severely.
Sata and RB where were when HH was making money. The younger man is rich this is sign that he is a hard worker. He is not a tribalist following the record RB is a real tribalist remember the namboard issue.
I once voted for Sata as MP for Kabwata long time ago. Sata as President? He will reduce taxes, scare off investors (the mainland Chinese), bring in other investors(Taiwan Chinese), build roads, hospitals and schools. He will raise doctors’ (wife) salaries, and he will do all this by saving on a small cabinet. All portfolios will be divided between himself, Guy Scott and Given Lubinda but defence will go to GBM. Before long he will have fired them as well and thre will be only M Sata in cabinet. Ten years later only one civil servant as well, M Sata! Zambia will have only one neighbour, Mugabe’s Zimbabwe!
zambian politics are proving to be dirty especially where room and immunity has even been given to NOMINATED MPs who are just bickering, vomitting words anyhow, a sign of suffering from POLITICAL diarrhoea. Rupiah and his Lunatic campaighn managers are promising nothing to address increasing poverty levels, only allowances, threats to close the post, corruption, using government planes to compaign, donating to small Political parties, distributing sugar, etc.
xxx What hasnt MMD done that they want to do, that they did not do in their last 17 years of Governance.LPM HAS NO MATCH IN MMD….
WE WANT CHANGE WITH ACTION …..
NI PABWATOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bloggers forgive this man KK, old age is catching up wth him.Umuntun nga akota amano yala bwekela ku bwaiche.
kk, the house is your entitlement and not a gift or should we say a donation to a brother.
it doesn’t matter endorse whoever you want. 30th october is just 24 days away.
viva
Ba KK ni ba muselela kwakaba. He wrote off LPM but he still ended in the laps of LPM begging and praising him. He even shed tears at the hand over of the house coz he has since realized he had misjudged. What more with RB being his brother-in-law.
We bind the spirit of the cobra. we speak a storm at sea. The boat will never dock at state house. Our nation will never be ruled by anyone with satanic connections. God bless Zambia
#292 JUST CHECK HOW MMD WON LAST TIME, SATA CANT WIN WESTERN,NORTHWESTERN,EASTERN AND SOUTHERN THE TROUBLE IS HE CANT EVEN COME SECOND IN THESE PROVINCES DONT BE CONFUSED WITH HUGE RALLIES THEY DONT TRANSLATE INTO VOTES. JUST CHECK HOW LEVY WON THE LAST ELECTIONS.IN SHORT OUT OF 9 PROVINCES HE IS ONLY COMPETING IN 5 MOREVER LAST TIME HE HAD MORE SUPORT THAN THIS TIME MEANING HE MIGHT EVEN FAIL TO GET THE 29% OF VOTE THIS TIME. JUST BE HONEST THIS BATTLE IS WORTH NOTHING FOR THE OPPOSITION, JUST KEEP THE MONEY FOR 2011 IF THEY CANT TEAM UP.
Imwe balekeni ba KK tabakwata amano, nabakota! Tomorrow you will be surprised he will be supporting you bloggers for taking time to write your nonsense here!
He should stick to endorsing condoms in the fight against AIDS!
can ba shikulu tell the nation what good things RB did in his time? Sata was hard working and made a good minister then RB???????????????
corrupt.
Pa bwatoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
#20 ulichipuba with your usless statics
KK brought us hunger, poverty, etc. Does he really think anyone’s going to listen to him? Don’t people remember shortages, all the mines closed, hardly any tourism, rubbish agricultural policies, etc.? Pa BWATOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
KK, seem to have lost his senses. Kaunda, that house of which you had to endorse RB was built by our tax Kwachas. It is a pension we gave you because you dserve it. Endorsing RB who is clearly corrupt, and with no direction can only be viewed as wither boot licking or Blood is thicker than Zambia.
THe peace we are enjoying is not because of RB being VP. It is the relative progress we have made in this field of democracy which we should all protect because it is still fragile and can easily be reversible
My fellow Zambians, I am the “Maestro Hhehhehhehhe – LABELLED as a TRIBALIST BY a group of BEMBA-TRIBALISTS (mainly UNDEREDUCATED or Kaponyas) who are small DISTINCT group from the ORIGINAL NORMAL REAL BEMBA PEOPLE of Zambia, just because I am born Tonga and succesful”.
I have now officially stated using the name on my username now.I have done so because LT seems to be a supporer of those who insults or atleast they have pressured him to be on their side.To this end, I am now offically a PF Supporter for Sata to destroy Zambia.I’ll change my username to Maestro Hhehhehhehhe after the October 30, 2008 elections. All POSTS under the name Maestro Hhehhehhehhe from today onwards wont be from me
KK, KK , KK . Ifwe nipabwatooooooooooooooooooo . Your advice is completely USELESS .I cannot expect an oldman like you to openly support RB . You will be dissappointed because SATA is the next PRESIDENT .JUST LIKE SOME OF THESE TRADITIONAL RULES BECAUSE OF SOME… THEY SAY IT IS RB . VIVA PF VIVA SATA NIPABWATOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
KK the house is not a danation nor is it a gift it is your constitutional etitlement which fTj will get as well whether he supports RB or not so you should not drag your name in the mud.The culture that your statements would imply to potray is unwell come in the present day Zambia.You have done alot for Africa dont destroy it now big-for me you are more than Mandala so Big up bigman
KK has said it again. Clear to the point. Don’t make a mistake!!! Sata cannot be a president. I have known this for a very long time. Someone wrote in one of the articles that it is a crime to apply for a job you cannot do. And we all know that is exactly what Sata is doing!!! Reject him and vote wisely!!!
Maybe Super Ken can also tell us why he fired RB
KK and RB are related through Betty, What do you expected? RB is Betty’s Cousin. So its a family affair. Don’t buy KK’s endorsment. RB will destroy and push Zambia to pre-Chiluba days
#313, are you out of your senses? Did you expect KK to feed you? Even the broken English you are using was not paid for by your dad, it was free and that is the role of the state. Shortages or any other setbacks where due to his principled stand on Apartheid. Don’t be fooled!!!
VJ’s role in rigging the forthcomming election will end up in flames.What is he doing in South Africa, particularly in Durban? We don’t want what happened in Kenya.And KK shut up and leave Sata alone.
#309,It is this people like Dr Kaunda who made Zambia the way it is today.With almost same things from colonial time.I for one would not stop to talk if i find a wrong.Am living now if i can help to sharp the destiny for my mother Zambia i will definetly point out the wrong for the better country of my children.How do you describe Dr Kaunda,today he endoses Sata and HH and tomorrow he Changes and endose another candidate?One thing i have understood from him is that Sata having been a good minister can also make a good president.As minister according to Dr Kaunda he was able to lead and succeed so how can he fail to lead on a higher post if he is a proven good leader
#321 you must be under 20 to have a memory like that… His principled stand on Apartheid? Nothing to do with being useless then…
Guys what is this “mysterious disease” that is breking out in zambia?????? Source; independent online, Africasia etc
Viva HH
#321.You can not grade a president on free education.It is the responsibilty of every government to provide education to the people.How else can a government develop if it does not educate its people?Any government and presidential candidate who does not think of providing free education puts the country in much proplems in a long run.This after all must not be a compaign issue,it has to be the right of each and every citizen
NAMBOARD= RB what real happened at Namboard who has data?
kk just failed to handle the excitment of his NEW HOUSE. It is a well known fact that he prefers HH. RB will bring back UNIP, Sata will bring back the thieving tendencies of the Chiluba regime. HH represents REAL change. VIVA HAKAINDE
SATA has a disfunctional support base. The majority of his MP’s are fighting him.
This is a good lesson for him, unfortunately it has come toolate for him.
The lessons are for those coming behind him: never disrespect your fellow leaders; value the intellectuals in your party; vale and respect the party leadership hierachy.
Can someone tell me what SATA ‘S strategy is? 22 MPS out of 37. He has already lost no matter how you console yourselves.You should forget about LUSAKA because it will evenly shared.HIS language,diplomacy, even the look does not befit a president. KK IS RIGHT. i know the truth hurts and it is hurting right now.
‘SATA is hard working because he bought nurses uniforms’?!**#@lol
How low have we become? What has caused as to exhibit such nonsensical, archaic, sub-standard sence of self-worth.
‘Merzaf flats’ That someone can point at these as evidence of SATA’s capabillities fails me. We have given up or what?
SATA a hardworker, my foot? He is more of a maniac than anything else.
Ba Spectator, mwaiseni ndume yandi. Bushe mwali kwisa for the past few days? Don’t go without informing us, kuti ubwato bwabunda.
ba Maikalange #333 natasha mukwai…i was out for a funeral in the copperbelt and was hard to blog…but natubwela…i had explaiened though…in my last blog on Thursday…. ifwe Nipa bwaaaatooooo fye>>>>>>
Dagga smoking Sata! Cant make a leader!
Pabwato napamifulunganya, mulefilwa nokuchita analyze politics. Sata is worse off than Chiluba. He’s going to steal the entire nation to liquidation. Listen to the big man, KK. There’s wisdom in what he’s saying.
Either HH or RB. Dont be emotional about pabwato.
Latest #335, for real you are latest!!!yama mulenashako ukutumpa….Pabwatooooooooooo>>>>have you followed issues in the Zed lately?Latest for Sho!!!
#336 telelo twayamba following these issues we started way back. before MMD made Governement….so analysis epoili!!!mwanyaa…Nipa Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaatoooooooooooooo>>>>>
#336 Cheers, ee pa bwato palitufulunganya pantu paliba amano. There is nothing we as PF die-hards can listen to that old man. Uyu KK ni shimuselela kwa kaba. Today he says this, tomorrow that, the other day that. We want advice which is genuine, not after being given a house that we tax payers have built. That house was not built by the MMD of Nyama Soya. It is our hard earned money.
RB has just received a’ kiss of death’ from ci old man. Ask Nevers or his own son whom he’d give endorsement in previous polls they all lost terribly. This leaves us with one man only, the KING COBRA himself. Of course i wouldn’t bet my house-not even my shoe- on HH Hakaivotela .
LETS FACE FACTS,THE BIGEST PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE IN NORTHERN AND LUAPULA, IS THAT THEY RESPOND FAVOURABLY TO BROWN ENVELOPES, WHILE PEOPLE IN OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY ARE MORE IMMUNE TO THIS KIND OF CORRUPTION.AT THE RATE RB IS DISHING OUT BROWN ENVELOPES WITH THE HELP OF CHILUBA ,IS SCARING SATA, BECAUSE HE MIGHT END UP THIRD IN THE RACE.
#337 Iwe Spectator! If you smoke Dagga with Sata and his Greek Friends at Northmead then it is not a surprise given your rantings!
KK…… WAMUYAYA!!
KK……WAMUYAYA!!
KK…….WAMUYAYA!!
UWAMATWI OMFWE
ABAKALAMBA BALABILA
Ba Latest #345!!!mweba bange nimwe yama. not Sata…given my rantings for real…joiner fye boyi ama one panse…Pabwaaaaaaaatooooooooooooooo>>>>>>
KK a living legend or shrewd dictator? He surely got rid of his enemies..what about those unmarked graves and does anybody know where Nkumbula, Simon Mwansakapwepwe, etc are buried? KK is marxist who hides behind humanism. The guy ruled your country for 17 years under state of emergency and 31 years as an authoritarian. He moved Zambia from +3 billion Dollars in reserve to -7 Billion by 1991. He provide fooled Zambians by standing against frogs, hyenas etc during his reign. You claim he unified the country..yes he did but through silencing disent but that ensured peace. Statistically 1991 Zambia was 1900 USA or 1910 UK. There was no press freedom until 1991.
It’s so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don’t say it. So ba KK and those in support spare us the trouble….
VIVA SATA!!!!!PABWAAAAAAATOOOOOO>>>>>
Zambia is NOT a TOY. let us not experiment by giving this country to SATA after a warning from KK
# 347 = “Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new
KK is human== he hs his opinion but that is not final. he has done this b4… His Son..Mazoka..HH.. now RB…. ONLY GOD ABOVE COUNTS…
>dont be mislead.. KK is excited on the house.. he thinks MMD hs built it when infact it is US.HE is corrupted in his mind like the mealie meal/sugar katete pipo and some chiefs were…. IGNORE HIM AND VOTE the 21st century president
Ba KK—- your vote is secrete dont mislead the pipo… we know u… GOD bless you…
Ask KK what he did to the Great Old Lion Harry Mwaanga Nkhumbula, Simon Kapwepwe, Nalumino Mundia or just how he betrayed Princess Nakatindi. This man should not takes us for granted just because we have given him a house. His friends like Gray Zulu built their own houses why didn’t he – he believed he will die in State House. KK MUST stay away from the siding with an one, he is not fit to comment on the current situation because he does not know what these zambians he oppressed for 27 years have woken up. We know what we want and we know what he want.
Its so stupid and foolish to support a guy of satas calibre….
Muzalila
KK you got it all wrong this time around.We seriously don’t need your opinion as it would seem you have an interest to serve.Can you explain to the Zambian people what has changed suddenly; from advocating for an alliance between UPND and PF to endorsing RB? is it because you failed to make HH and Sata work together? c’mon bigman don’t influence our decisions!!!
I wrote somewhere that I am Hamwaambwa Mugungulu Mwaanga and I come from Mapanza with VJ. I wont write much about my relationship with VJ, but be aware that there will be no rigging of the election results. What is happening now is a strategy to bring everyone to vote for RBB by showing the RBB has support of Chiefs and formwer Zambian Presidents.
However, KK will clarify his point soon to say that he (KK) is in support of HH, I think.
Viva Sata.
Nipabwato.
We are coming to destroy everything in 3 years if you vote for us PF.
KK man must be ashamed of himself. This is the man that used to compete with frogs or hyenas during elections. This is the man Rupen Bandit claims to have taught him how to be a great leader. Haaaaa! Shame on these two old men. KK u are scared and jealous of Chi Sata because he is a performer and we are happy that u have admitted that this man is a performer. This is all what this man has been saying. I am a man of action, i am a performer, vote for me for have a track record, wherever i have been i have performed. Thanks shameless man for confirming that Sata is a performer. All you have done is tell the zambians to vote for SATA, you have killed MMD and RB.
The one thing that KK is sure about is that Sata is not presidential material.The man was president for 27yrs so he should know what he is talking about.
#348. chimbukutumukutulumukumbutainambao
for SATA, there is no need to even feel mislead.
What KK has said we already knew it.
SATA himself has worked very hard to convince us that he is not trustworthy by constantly changing position on almost evrything.
SATA said with his own mouth at sate house during his reconciliation with Mwanawasa that, not all his criticism was genuine; some of it was mere hatred he had for him. Now, how do you trust a man whom you dont know whether what he is saying is true or not?
And this is the Reason Nelson Mandela is the Most respected leader of this and last century. If only zambian politics would mature like those of Botswana, Presidents there even resign.
#332 im loving u right now
My prayer is that Miyanda would become more vocal, ro get a vice with finess like Nawakwi for 2011; We need to start preparing early. How wonderful would it be to have a principled leader like Mandela or Nkama. Miyanda has it but not the vocal platform; deny this but all things are subject to debate.
no 318 when u say that KK has said it again you are right,remember what he said in 2006 about LPM.He proved him wrong making him to swallow his words.So ba banda you get worried because whosoever kk endorses for presidence loses.HH has one part of a province because he is no grounded in L/stone but pa bwato you Lsk, central,Copperbelt and Northern provinces.
Official CNN Rating
Sata 65
HH 22
RB 12
Myanda 1
You tonga chaps that are saying that Sata is only concentrating on Northern Province, why are you having sleepless nights about him? The man is a genious, because while he is in Northern Province, every part of the country is able to get him on Radio,including you the tonga tribalist.THis is what we call Cost serving,and cost effectiveness Mr Educated Tongaman.Its not about Pomp rather reaching your targeted audiance,call him names but the chap is a genious.
Thank you for the advise, Dr Kaunda, but I will vote for the person that will address the poverty issues my grandmother and other fellow villagers are facing. I will also vote for the person that supports duo citizenship
Hi ma zambian people,The big man KK has said it,all the peace loving zambian shall vote for RB.Someone might ask,what about Sata,Well i will answer that question with a question! Why did nt Chiluba Pick Sata for President??? Personally,i dont think Sata has the capacity and the brains to lead zambia.I dont wanna drown muchibwatooo, a sinking Titanic! Everyone out there who wants zambia to sink muchibwato,then vote for Sata Satana!This guy is old, i prefer we keep him as an “attack dog”.
He just wants to eat with RB..his former kabwoi. Old man stay quiet in retirement!!!!!!!!!
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KK definitely knows what he is talking about. Be real vote RB.
RB is corupt
Guys and gals, I in the BOAT, pabwato, now.
Vote Pabwato to sink Zambia.
Vote Pabwato to make Bemba as the National Language.
Vote for Sata to to have an undereducated President and wonder why an American President will never meet him (Sata) at the wHITE hOUSE OR ANY OTHER place for a meeting.
Vote for Sata to re-introduce the Vendor’s desk at State House.
Vote for Mediocre leadership by bring in Pabwato’s Captain undereducated Sata.
What happened to his support for HH? This old man is now losing his marbles too!! I smell a fat stinking rat!!
KK will definitely clarify his point, he never meant endorsing RB. HE meant RB to continue in the campaigns without insults as he has been not to continue after elections. Read post article again (05/10/08) thru the archives.
KK will definitely clarify his point, he never meant endorsing RB. HE meant RB to continue in the campaigns without insults as he has been not that he should continue after elections. Read post article again (05/10/08) thru the archives.
Time for change and not RB!!!! And someone please ask what their plans for health care are!!!1
THIS IS WHA IS SHOWING AS OF TODAY
LSK.RB 15%,HH.10%,SATA,69
CP.RB 12%, HH.15%SATA,70%
LUAP.RB 30% HH.10%SATA,58%
NORTH.RB 40% HH 11% SATA 705
SOUTH RB 25% HH 70 SATA 20%
EAST RB 80% HH 17% SATA 10%
CENTTRAL RB 49% HH 10% SATA 46%
Guys and gals, in the BOAT, pabwato, now.
Vote Pabwato to sink Zambia.
Vote Pabwato to make Bemba as the National Language.
Vote for Sata to to have an undereducated President and wonder why an American President will never meet him (Sata) at the wHITE hOUSE OR ANY OTHER place for a meeting.
Vote for Sata to re-introduce the Vendor’s desk at State House.
Vote for Mediocre leadership by bring in Pabwato’s Captain undereducated Sata.
#360 how many people listen to those campaigns on radio. its good strategy but it wont guarantee your bwato a win.
Mwe ba pa bwato,we are very sorry that your president is just supported by the n’gwa n’gwazis. Why is he not supported (endorsed) by people like KK? Even his MPs are voting against him this time. My advice is start learning how to swim before ubwato tabulabunda,ok.
VIVA RB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
KK rest, Zambians experienced hardships, torture reduced to beggers, ruled with an Iron fist and many people died misterious when he was heard of State. KK has always suported wrong people in the polical world:
Zimbabwe- He suppoted Johua Khomo who lost
Angola- He suppotred Jonas Savimba who lost and formed a rebel movement that caused alot of suffering/war in Angola.
Mozambique- Supported FRERHIMO, who lost
2006 – He supported HH, he lost by far
2008- supporting RB, come 1st November he has lost already
Bushe ba KK nani ubomfwa! These former presidents know that ba Sata knows a lot on them but the man would never disgrace them more than they have disgraced themselves. PA BWATOOOOOO PA WATOOOOOOOOOO
KK was right. Between the two leaders Sata and RB I would also certainly vote for RB. KK is right.
But KK wisely chose not to compre RB with HH to avoid lying. In his heart of hearts he believes as he did in the last election that HH is the right Zambian for the highly demanding job of president. Viva pakubokoooooooooooooo!
KK does not believe that tribe is an issue. If he supports RB it is because ni ba mulamu. He has no hate for Sata. That was his governor. A governor he is still proud of. In those days for you youngmen who were not there, governors were bootlickers who sang KK wamuyaya. KK konse konse! The loudest of such governors was the best. And Sata was one of them. Therefore KK does not hate Sata. It is Sata who hates KK for not making him minister or prime minister.
It is unfortunate that KK has endorsed this RB who is being supported by plunderers. Maybe this time his choice will win otherwise the people he has supported have always lost. Remember KK supported Joshua Nkhomo’s Zapu, Savimbi’s Unita, and Ojukwu’s Biafra. They all failed.
RB is not presidential material. People should vote for either HH.
Sata and RB have been bootlickers of KK so forget about them.
I grew up under KK reign.It was the worst time of my life.Food shortages,teachers on strike,No textbooks in schools.This was the order of the day.Most of us Zedians are now deprived because of Kaundas misrule.The old man should just be quiet.
How can he openly support RB?This RB mingles with plunderers.
I dont even understand why he has been given a pension house, when he ruined the lives of many Zedians.
Hey guys. God created man in his own image. No man is bad, except what we choose to make them. Set written outline of what the Zambians must see for each government in power to do, besides party manifestals. The constitution must give zambians power to decide, if those requirements are not fufiled, to remove that particular government.
For me, i would like to see a government led by a president who will lower him/herself to the ground and make sure he him/herself visits places like kamwala, soweto etc and even walks around to see for him/herself and get views from the people in those places on their livelihood. Not only during campaign days but all the time.
KK is the one that has messed up our zambia..he did not want to groom young intelligent zambian professionals..he surrounded himself with incompetent UNIPISTS..SO I DONT VALUE HIS COMMENTS…FULL STOP
383. I agree.