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Flashback: Michael Sata at Court
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Four opposition political parties have expressed reservations about working with Patriotic Front leader Michael Sata who has called for a united opposition after the collapse of the Pact with the United Party for National Development (UPND).

 

National Democratic Focus (NDF) president Ben Mwila has said it is impossible for any reasonable political party to enter into any form of arrangement with Mr Michael Sata’s Patriotic Front (PF) because the opposition leader is inconsistent and unpredictable.

And the Alliance for Democracy and Development (ADD) has said it is only willing to work with other opposition parties in some coalition based on a common economic agenda and not a “pact arrangement” based on individuals and personalities.

Commenting on Mr Sata’s statement that his party was open to dialogue for a united opposition, Mr Mwila said it would be an effort in futility for any opposition pact to think of working with the PF.

“There is no way Mr Sata can want to get in Government in the first place because he has no agenda for the country. We tried ourselves, we wrote an agreement to work together as a united opposition then with the late Anderson Mazoka, the late Dean Mung’omba, Dr Nevers Mumba and myself which Mr Sata abrogated himself.

“We even chose members and allocated constituencies as to which political party would stand but on the last minute Mr Sata walked away,” he said.

Mr Mwila said Mr Sata always finds a way to get out of a working arrangement with other parties.

“If you remember our party was called Zambia Republican Party (ZRP). The name National Democratic Front (NDF) came about because Mr Sata wanted the word “Front” to be reflected because PF was part of the pact. We were forced to drop the Front to Focus because Mr Sata contested that we remove it when he came out of the arrangement,” he said.

He said it would be unreasonable for any opposition party to even contemplate a working arrangement with the PF.

ADD president Charles Milupi said his party was the first to call for a grand opposition but that his party would only work with political parties with a similar vision.

“ADD was the first to call for a united and grand opposition. We have been advocating for this for a long time but we can only come together if we have common policies,” he said.

Mr Milupi said opposition parties can only work together in an arrangement based on issues and common policy not individuals and personalities.

“As a party, we are focused on dealing with issues of unemployment, poverty and disease, we can only work with people who have similar visions,” he said.

New Revolution Party (NRP) president Cosmo Mumba said it would be difficult for any party to work with the PF as long as it maintains Mr Wynter Kabimba as the secretary general.

“Just look at how Mr Kabimba has fought the UPND,” he said.

UPND national youth chairperson Joe Kalusa has advised other opposition parties to be wary of Mr Sata’s invitation.

He said before Mr Sata can invite other parties to join a united opposition, he should tell the Zambian people what was wrong with the UPND.

“It is like a married man who divorces a wife and goes on the street and asks another wife to marry him without addressing his own problems and weaknesses. That kind of marriage can’t last.

“First let him tell the nation what is wrong with UPND. He has tried so many pacts with the NDF, ULP (United Liberal Party) all of which he ditched at the last minute. This is a man you can’t trust,” he said.

Officiating at the Northern Province party conference Mr Sata said his party was ready a united opposition.

The announcement comes at a time the pact with the UPND is failing.
[Times of Zambia]

79 COMMENTS

  1. NDF ADD ? are those political parties? Wo is Ben Mwila, sounds like some name from before shaka zulu… ok

  2. True Mr Mwila, no one in their right mind can work with SATA. People where shouting PACT! PACT! Kwisa? All his followers are just bull dozed in whatever direction SATA feel at that particular moment. The PACT is over. Now HH has been soiled with the cobra. He will leave to regret why he even attempted to coorporate with SATA in the first place. This old man is finished. He has shown on numerous occastion how inconsistent he can be. He has no firm ground on anything. He is like sand. He shifts all over. May he retire in peace. There will NEVER be State house for him.

  3. #1 niggaman,

    Mwila is a loner and greedy politician who thrives in political of benefit and benefited from his nephew Chiluba’s plunder when he was Zambian President.

    He is now an MMD in disguise.

  4. Lets cut the c.r.a.p if there wont be some kind of opposition alliance then status quo will be maintaned, we will have 26 years of MMD.

  5. The Slimes of Zambia and its propaganda. really does this paper have journalists worth their salt working for it? You cant live your life bootlicking sum1 for all your life!!

  6. the headline is misleading, only Ben Mwila nashala neka said some thing foolish and you bafikkala you come up with a fake headline……Joe Kalusa is the most fooolish person Zambia has ever produced they is no need for any sane medid to interview him…..Sunny Chintombwa aka HH is not a politician thats why even the useless times of zambia can not interview him.

  7. IF EVERYONE IS SAYING THE SAME THING ABOUT SATA INDEED HE SHOULD EXAMINE HIMSELF THERE IS NO WAY EVERYONE CAN CONDEMN YOU. EVERY YOUR FELLOW TRIBES MATE LIKE MWILA ,MUMBA ARE SCARED OF THIS SATANIC THUG
    SATA’s major SCANDLES AND WHY HE CANT BE TRUSTED
    To all PF KAPONYAS WHO HAVE A SHORT MEMORY AND WANT TO MAKE US BELIEVE THAT SATA IS THE CHANGE WE NEED, WELL WE DONT FORGET EASILY I WILL KEEP REMINDING YOU OF THE EVILS OF THIS THUG JUST LIKE CHANDA CHIIMBA THE III IS DOING
    1. MEZARF FLATS SCANDLE
    2. HIS EVIL THIRD TERM BID WITH CHILUBA WHERE HE SINGLE HANDEDLY EXPELLED MORE THAN 20 MPS
    3. HIS DUBIOUS MONEY LAUNDERING SCANDLES E.G THE $27 000 IN SOUTH AFRICA
    4. CHAWAMA MASACRE
    5. His satanic and evil plans of dithronning the litunga
    PLEASE IF YOU KNOW OF ANY SCANDLES OF THIS…

  8. VJ RIGGER
    Its u who s a danderhead and full of BS.Just the other day u claimed mmd has won in Mpolokoso.
    I like the way Sata is giving u sleepless nights.

  9. # 12(whatever u call yourself)

    Why are u so scared of the man.Sata is here to stay.No one has ever said he s an angel.Once again i like the Sata is giving spineless chaps like u sleepless nights!!!!

  10. Well, what goes around comes around. You demean others, and you will be demeaned. Respect others and you will be respected.

  11. Pepani, pepani, we nearly forgot how Serpentine dramatised the NDF alliance. BY is right. ZRP, PUDD, ZADECO, Nevers’ National Christian Coalition and the PATRIOTIC Front formed an alliance called National Democratic Front before the 2006 general elections. SATA and his PF wanted to bulldoze everything. He wanted to be annointed the president of the alliance and when this could not be done, he pulled out and urged his remaining colleagues to discontinue the use of Front which was PF’s contribution to the alliance. It was a whole lot of joke. words like these are generic. So Nevers and the group changed front to Focus because of SATA. He has never been serious on unity of purpose, he cannot be trusted, he’s too power hungry. DON”T VOTE FOR HIM, too selfish man.

  12. THIS LT IS SHIT, ITS PRO MMD, TWISTING HEADINGS TO SUIT MMD. BEN MWILA IS A FAILURE AND FROM THE TIME HE FORMED HIS PARTY HE IS THE ONLY MP. CAN THIS FOOL SAY ANYTHIN GOOD ABT SATA WHO HAS ACHIEVED SO MUCH?? BA LT U AR BEING USED TO PROPAGET AND MAKE THE PACT COLLAPSE……THIS IS USELESS BLOG ALL THE ARTICLE AR FROM GRZ MEDIA. AM SURE THESE NEGATIVE COMMENTS U JST SIT AND WRITE THEM TO PROTECT MMD. JOHN PHIRI BOYI LETS WATCHOUT BA LT BALIBA BIASED

  13. Sata yakuzandila mudala, you have no friends shikulu because of your terrible manners. You are a liar ewe chi mudala. We do not need clawns, we need educated, dedicated and credible individuals to lead the country. Sata you have no business in moderm Zambia.

  14. The truth is that no matter how much you condemn SATA, he doesn’t listen and he probably doesn’t care. SATA is self-destructive and he has been like that since the days of UNIP, that is why he is a political failure. Bashikulu ibange bapepa likali sana! Mulebeba banasheko!

  15. Sunny Chintombwa must be feeling real lousy. He has lost precious campaign time in the pact. The only thing he has gained is new vocabulary in insults.

  16. Well, what do you expect from pocket political parties when they are not a factor in the Zambian electrol process. The only sensible statement is from the ADD President.

  17. The only viable presidential candidate is RB. Sata, well, everything has been said about him. HH, too renationalized. I can propose RB for president and PF/ UPND parliamentarian.

  18. 13 Red Card-abena Libala South
    You are headed for another disappointment at the polls this year.Your crap sheet of a leader is headed for his 4th rejection at the ballot.And I bet his heart will snap this time around, so better start thinking of another kaponya to take over your corrupt, filthy, tribal party.

  19. no. 12. an educated person does not work and concluded on speculations. if he has committed those crimes why has not justice being done on him. do not blind people.

  20. well that is sata for you. they don’t call him King cobra for nothing. guy scott zukas, dipak, mwanawasa, miyanda, nawakwe were his victims at one time. the only politician who was never his victim was either Chiluba or those who were not politicians at the time. even the Post, UPND were all biten by the cobra

  21. Milupi has said a wise thing so let his party meet with PF to discuss serious issues like he has said. I think he is even more mature in thinking than HH.Ben Mwila nashala neka party is totally finished.let him show us his national executive committee or just a branch.He is the President,executve,MP,chairman&secretary.not even his wife(if still alive or not divorced) is known to the world.As for Cosmo, i think he was misquoted because just recently he was full of praises for PF but if he has suddenly changed,then he has no morals & cannot be trusted.Anyway, i understand him he acts far much better than siulapwa & James Lukuku.

  22. who cn work with old old man nazelu zakudala, forget about him.he is chancing in politics us we hav already forgetten him ed ar joining de fresh blood.

  23. Red Card-abena Libala South @ 14. Of course Sata is no angel, but one thing I’ll say for him is this – he’s the only sane person in the world, the rest of us are mad. Eat that!

  24. vote for the son of Zambia HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, change is inevitable, the change that will give you hope

  25. What is wrong with a pact with the ruling MMD? After all, they were all part of the MMD. UNIP is the only natural opposition to MMD.So, they way I see it is that UNIP should be the party leading the coalition. However, UNIP must ditch its present leader. In Zambia a political Party leader loses elections again and again, but stays at the helm of his party. If Zambians reject you now, why should they change their mind later when you haven’t changed the same policies that they rejected? I do not understand this. In football we kick out coaches that don’t win.

  26. 26 And Zee//

    You have a point UPND,ADD and actually MMD have similar policies.
    I would be happy if Zambians noticed that Mr.Sata is actually not a nationalist but a retiree who wants to recover lost fortune out of state house. If he goes through, then Zambia is headed for doom. He has credentials to be the Gaddafi of Zambia. Zambians let’s put Sata Away for possibly the last time and move-on. He will be too old to contest in 2016. No time for dictators.
    RB prepare the youngmen HH and Milupi to take over, period.

  27. Hello bloggers or should i just say buggers! i really wanted to commment on the above article but going through you submissions i have discovered that most of are totally below par surely were you not supposed to analyse the article it authenticity, source of news also its worth? whether you like it or not the SATA you hate so much is forming GRZ this year. look the only few of us educated we are even more confused either to have sata of hh.but let me ask a question can someone give us the SWOT analysis of the two individuals without bias but logically presented? otherwise i am at pain the closest is sata for plot 1 period although is not my best but it is written all over this is y hater can;t afford a sleep. let us be focused and call a sped a sped mmd pls is dead inkoloko yalifwa!.

  28. beside LT seems to have only two sources of information surely can they be objective some of you do not read widely on our national issues and perhaps get to grips on how pipo are suffering in their onw country. this is why you keep on arguing on minor things.

  29. TYNE 36//

    I wonder how you arrive at your conclusions. PF is still a Regional Party with no potential to win in any new Provinces other than those it did better in 2008. Now that the Pact is fallen forget about Sata and start preserving your heart from shock, unless you deliberately want to go into a coma. I do not think Zambians can be cheated into Satanism. Anyway, you are entitled to your views but be aware the boat is sinking deep this year.

  30. Ba LT you are also ID.IOTS,why do you always copy and paste stories from Government Controlled media houses when you know how much they hate and Fear the Mighty MC Sata.

    Grow up with your journalism and prove to us the you have been to schools of Journalism.you behave as if there are different schools of journalism;the one that teaches true journalism and the one that teaches propaganda.

    Even the editor of this Blog you should also prove your qualifications by publishing news worht iterms.

    I Challenge LT to publish your Qualifications i.e for your journalists.newswriters and editors so that everyone can see and judge you.

  31. No 28 why are you bitter with BY Mwila,he is just reminding us of his previous dealings with Sata and how unreliable Sata is. He (Sata) has been dishonesty all through. If many people see something wrong in Sata and YOU dont, then there is something wrong with you. You are just supporting him because you are a tribalist of the worst order. Hammer ba BY

  32. WE ARE GOING TO VOTE FOR SATA, WHATEVER ONE MAN PARTIES SAY, HAS NO SUBSTANCE NAUNO MWAKA NI MICHAEL….what happened ku Mporokoso where was one man Parties?

  33. #41
    Ba Tobalombe

    I dont think any sane person can listen to what B.Y.Mwila is saying because his mind is corrupted and he is a failure compared to M.C.Sata.

    Remember! B.Y.Mwila formed ZRP way before PF was formed and your self how many MPs does BY Mwila has or what influence does he commands in Zambian Politics compared to MC Sata?

    Simple reason is what is needed of you.Have you also been planted in Bots by Rupia

  34. My Mbuya Sata, being republican president is just one, among the 101 things he wanted to do before he cashes in his cheque (breath his last). Just that thought of him waking up in plot one one day, makes my mbuya not to rest even when he could have been grooming someone else from within PF. Ni pa Zed, anything is possible?

  35. Opposition snub Sata: REALLY??? BY(NDF)? Cosmo? NRP? ADD? And what about UNIP, FDD, NAREP? Save for UPND should be the best qualified to have issues with PF!!! Not the pretenders LT went to unearth from some archive somewhere.Simply put, LT do not even qualify to be a shadow of true journalism.If it were not for the bloggers this space would have been taken up by someone else more credible! This news will not even appear on ZNBC!!

  36. The problem with Sata and his surrogate PF supporters is that they think other people are stupid. My simple advice and free of charge to you guys is that, if you love Sata as you seem to, advise him to quit, otherwise he will die of heart attack. He is too old to stomach the outcome of this year”s elections. Remember he already has heat problems. Dont say we didnot tell. Please he is too old , too uneducated and too mischievous

  37. #16 kalimwitobo, wansekesha saana, you have reminded of those comic days. Hahahaha!! I almost forgot the drama that characterised that alliance starting with the name. YABA, kwaliba bantu MCS!!!! Kekekeke.

  38. Ba Panji, whether BY has MPs or not is not the issue. He is simply confirming what other commentators have been commenting concerning your Sata. There is nothing wrong with that. The problem with you PF supporters is that who ever does not agree with you is planted. Are planted by PF

  39. Ba BY even bu MP bazaluza. So he is not a factor in todays politics. Actually I am reliably informed that he is qoating MMD to stand on its ticked to defend his sit in Nchelenge. Azaka kwapuliwa over na ba PF kuja. Just wait and see.

  40. This old man is so desperate bane, does it mean he has nothing to do, better still ask his fellow old people to tell him what is expected of an elderly person. If he can take a rest he can be a very respectable person in terms of just giving political advise for young leaders. We know he wants to fulfil his ego of not dying before he gets to plot one, but we will not allow him anyway as long as his past deeds still remain in our heads. These are the same guys with Chiluba who one time said Zambians are fulls, and said if you want you can even rule them forever. How can we asher plot one to a person who has a scandle of abrogating our constitution.

  41. what political benefit can BY contribute to any meanifull political alliance?nothing!!!this BY man is a danderhead and very dull chap who survived politically because his relative FTJ chose him as a Minister they cut deals with FTJ to benefit his companies MINESTONE etc..all his companies collapsed because they survived on FTJ mess,other than that BY almost had Zambia into trouble Angola almost attacked Zambia because BY was supplying Arms to Savimbi..if it hadn’t been for International community we would have been bombed.even RB has not not appointed this brat in his Government because BY is a political liability..of all these alliances only PF has survived because SATA polical intuation has surpassed most of these crooks who want benefit more in Alliances when they are just small…

  42. I just liked ““ADD was the first to call for a united and grand opposition. We have been advocating for this for a long time but we can only come together if we have common policies,” he [ADD leader Charles Milupi] said… [his ADD] opposition parties can only work together in an arrangement based on issues and common policy not individuals and personalities“. Milupi said similar words on Frank Talk some few days ago but PF medicore kaponyas have been arguing ont hsi fora thinking that ADD can be manipulated to give the Serpent Sata MC of PF some votes from Western Province of Zambia.

    PF your thinking of getting regional votes and getting the Presidency position on, a silver palte will never work. Discuss policies first and elect the leaders at the end.

    Viva HH and Milupi…

  43. Interesting, this is all politics, everyone calling himself a politician is a crook. Remember how Baldwin Nkumbula died, and what BY said at UNZA? Just cause Chiluba is temporarily free, By has suddenly found his voice, and for nonsense. I’ve never heard him stand up for anything good for a common man.

    All these absurd Politicians who say they are not power hungry, why do they want to stand for Presidency? Just because they think they’re better than others. When RB was campaigning in 2008, did he tell us that his economic plans were to lead this country into another debt trap, buying disposable hospitals? What economic agenda is he propagating-substandardly building this country on credit instead of collecting money from our natural resources? And he’s older than Sata…….

  44. Say whateva you want but change is coming ni SATA 4 president. And Ba Lusaka times pliz I say pliz stop the copy and paste y shud u be givin us news from RB’s staff

  45. Chi #12, chi Octopus, just go and predict the world cup results using juju,voodoo, ubwanga, ulijiisi musamu. Didnt realise sata was this popular so many empty tins yap yap abt him.

  46. The more you show that you dont want bembas the more you make them feel obliged to vote for their tribesman. By insulting us you are just making sata popular mind you there are more bembas than any other tribe in Zambia.

  47. No amount of slander will make us change our minds mwefipuba ba mumbwe. Viva SATA. RBish is now spending sleepless nights. This year kuyabebele. Just check the negative on Sata. This is how much he has caused panic among parties without vision. RBish we are taking you back to the rubbish pit.

  48. #58 MMD #1 supporter,

    Good. I am adopting your RBish name, sounds good. I thought RoBer made sense but RBish makes sense more!!!!!!

  49. No serious politcal party can form an alliance with Sata and succeeds. Sata has an intellect of a 2 year old. Sata belives in weird type of politics.

  50. Sata for president no matter what? We just need change for life to make sense for some of us. We are nt dull but vchange brings hope than continuing living like this – with MMD

  51. Anyone who has worked with Zondwe Sata before will tell you some wires are seriously loose “mu kalukobo kalya!”

  52. Now is the time to separate the wheat from the tares. The leaders from the bullies, the wise from the fools and dedicated leaders from the opportunists. The SATA era is over (Freedom fighting) now is the time for economic recovery. Zambia is slowly getting back to the 1991 time in terms of debt. WHY Zambians, WHY? Now is the time to decide our destiny!

  53. SATA for President to hell all haters. whether you like it or not he is giving you sleepless nights. He is a Man of action. Go Go Go Sata

  54. It has been said and it will continue to be said, “Sata is not presidential material because he is not diplomatic” The danger with such leaders is that they can say and do things that would endanger our beloved country. Viva RB and Viva UPND/PF MPs. Any change is welcome except Sata being at plot 1. No change until all Zambians really see the Devil in Sata.

  55. Bembas are definately many, but they are also the most tribalistic lot under the sun. Cowards fearing their shaddy activities would be exhumed should any other person come to run the nation. everyone else has voted for them before, now they field the most uncivilised, ancient, achaic, despotic, ugly and inhuman character ever to exist, yet no matter what type of thing or what people say of the thug they will still vote for their fellow snake. They would rather a plunderer than a sane person. These debates have exposed you bafikala for what you are! Bastards

  56. Naimwe pa Zed na ka kapaper akamoneka kwati ka mmd mulebako serious na ma national issues,which other political parties are you writing about?BY bali kwatapo party umo mwaba fye 3 or 4 parties on a serious note nangu utalike lobe pembela kabili uli muwelewele fye we sabi we.Mona ni PF,mmd,upnd,neyo iya ba bo Milupi,so if the kateka in waiting talks about opposition parties I strongly feel these are the ones minus iya party iyapwa ati mmd ChifineChimba mabwe.

  57. If Chiluba and KK advise against SATA….y did they keep him in high positions during their time as presidents? it doesnt make sense! This only goes to show that they fear SATA because of the many wonders they know he can do for us Zambians…on top of that, they fear he will bring justice upon them for all the crimes they have committed!

  58. 72 Chikunichitebba bachembele greetings. Just a correction on your “Bembas are definately many, but they are also the most tribalistic lot under the sun“, Bemba-people by-tribe are just about at about 2 million in Zambia — same number as the Tonga people or about18% of Zambia’s population. However Bemba-people by-speech are about 45% of the total 13 million population of Zambia.

    This data can be verified with current records at Central Statistical Office of Zambia (CSO).

    What is interesting however is that people on the Copperbelt and in Lusaka provinces will not vote according to Langauge but they will vote according to who appeals to them. Notwithstanding, people in Northern Province and to some extent Luapulans may vote tribally.

    Be blest all.
    _
    Matt 6:33

  59. God help zambia! lets learn to see the best in each other if we will have to move forward.too much waisted tym too many waisted years

  60. bapeniko vaciline ba y-b kaya ni bye basubeko pamilomo shauma sana.who is you national secretary/ vice president or any person who is popular in party ba by ..hh becareful soon you will be crying like bmy if you continue to listen to your thugs who pretend to be educated but very very…………………………dull.

  61. Actually it is to the advantage of Sata that the likes of Ben Mwila are not willing to go into an alliance with him. You know there peope like HH who I get worried about when they are not pulling in the same direction with Sata – but Ben no worries!!

    Can someone convince Sata and HH to get back on track with the pact? Zambia will be a better place with those two working together in the next five years. I know they will be arguing a lot on policy but that is what we need…serious debate before implementing something. Not this MMD people who are scared of divergent views.

  62. Not Zondwa Sata please. The man has no manners. It will be the greatest embarrassment for Zambia to have this commedian for President. HH is a better option.

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