STUDENTS at the Copperbelt University in Kitwe have said they will stand up against politicians like Patriotic Front (PF) leader Michael Sata if he continues to champion gay rights in Zambia.
Copperbelt University Students Union president David Chikwanda said in an interview yesterday that students had rejected the championing of homosexuality in the country and have vowed to condemn any politician that supports the ‘alien’ practice.
Mr Chikwanda said Zambia had not changed its Christian nation status and was, therefore, morally governed by the dictates of the religion.
He said there should not be double standards or compromise on the moral conduct of leaders in dealing with important national issues such the prevailing debate on allowing homosexual practice in Zambia.
“This issue of homosexuality should not even be linked to human rights because we as a Christian nation are guided by the moral standards set out in the Bible, which does not condone same-sex unions,” he said.
Mr Chikwanda said politicians like Mr Sata should not be used by Western countries or organisations to promote gay activities because they went against African culture.
He said Mr Sata should not be swayed by the expected favours from the Western countries or organisations if he succeeded in his campaigns.
“These countries that want to bring homosexuality into Africa, and Zambia in particular, should understand that we are Africans and with different cultures from theirs,” he said.
And when contacted for comment over the release of compact disks on which he was recorded as having advocated for the implementation of laws on homosexuality, Mr Sata said he had nothing to say.
“In this same country they say a person is not guilty until proven guilty but when they just see someone hugging his colleague, they conclude that he is homosexual and judge a person just like that.
“I am not going to comment on that, after all I have a provincial conference on Saturday in Lusaka,” Mr Sata said.
Mr Sata told some journalists from Denmark recently, who included Lene Winther and Thomas Duus, that the Zambian laws had not been implemented and expressed displeasure that his stand on gays and lesbians had been used for propaganda.
“Some people are saying I am talking to you people because I want to bring back gays and I tell them that listen, the laws of Zambia recognise the gays. The laws of Zambia recognise the lesbians,” Mr Sata said.
The Christian Coalition said Zambians should not trust Mr Sata, who should clearly state his party’s position on homosexuality.
Christian Coalition spokesperson John Mwendapole said it had been noted that whenever Mr Sata purportedly made a decision on national issues, personal interests took an upper hand.
Mr Mwendapole said in an interview in Lusaka yesterday that this was not the first time Mr Sata was being insincere in the manner he conducted his politics.
“Zambians should learn not to trust Mr Sata. Whenever he does something, there is some form of kick-back for himself,” he said.
He said Zambians should not forget that not long ago, the PF leader was vehemently against Chinese investments in Zambia just because he had allegedly received some money from a certain party in that country.
He said the PF leader was condemning the Chinese investors, saying they were treating Zambians like slaves, all in the name of safeguarding his interests with Taiwan.
Meanwhile, United Party for National Development (UPND) Copperbelt provincial chairperson Elisha Matambo has said it is good that Mr Sata’s stance on homosexuality has been revealed after the end of the PF-UPND pact.
Mr Matambo said the revelation had come at the right time because UPND would not like to be associated with ill motives aimed at personal gains.
He said Mr Sata’s stance on homosexuality might have been one of the reasons why the PF shunned discussions on how to govern the country had the pact worked.
And PF Luapula Member of Parliament Peter Machungwa urged Zambians to condemn Mr Sata’s stance on homosexuality to avoid turning the country into a “lesbian and homosexuals’ paradise.”
[Times of Zambia]
MWAMUPWISHA KWENA
Speak and make your money boys
KANSHI NI HOMO ! Imangine a country ruled by a homo.
Mr SATA said LAWS IN ZAMBIA ARE THERE ALREADY Which promote Gay and Lebianism so what we need is implementation…………..
Hahahaha BA MUDAAALA now he will refuse and say his not the one who said it…………..yaaaaa ba PF
promoting YAKU MBUYO, the man is desperate for votes
I had some doubts about the authenticity of these reports especially considering the source: Gregory Chifire, Edwin Lifwekelo et al, until after watching ‘Stand up for Zambia” by Chanda Chimba III. I heard the Cobra speaking in a recorded broadcast on ZNBC. Kanshi it’s true, the man supports gays!!!! Shame!! this should mark the end of the Cobra.
only that CBU GAY spoke as a normal person.
And when contacted for comment over the release of compact disks on which he was recorded as having advocated for the implementation of laws on homosexuality, Mr Sata said he had nothing to say.
“In this same country they say a person is not guilty until proven guilty but when they just see someone hugging his colleague, they conclude that he is homosexual and judge a person just like that.
“I am not going to comment on that, after all I have a provincial conference on Saturday in Lusaka,” Mr Sata said.
Mr SATA denied having said what you people continue saying. He actually even castigated Chifire and Lifwekelo. You just picked one sentence instead of understanding his line of thought.Refer to Muvi tv evening news for 14th March 2011.ZNBC even lied on the same evening that SATA could not confirm or deny the allegations when infact Muvi tv aired an interview with him denying the allegations. You just hate sata and fear him so much. You all are MMD vuvuzelas. Cheap politicking and character assisnating just like the foolish and low calibre reporter Chanda Chimba.
looosers booot lickers do you think if you are paid by MMD to defy Sata people will change their minds? hahahahaha keep quite if you dont have data.
IDIOOOOOTSSSS CAN U PLZ ACT LIKE INTELLECTUALS. HE DOES NOT SUPPORT GAY RIGHTS.
MULETUSEBANYAAA. thats y i wouldn`t take any of my relatives to Unza or Cofi puba. its an insult for intellectuals as u claim to be bought. shaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!
Not a faggot for a President, please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I havent even read the story because from the headline you can tell that its misrepresented or misquoted. It simply shows that the author is scared or paid by OP
People must have a choice about their sexual orientation -It is right in advanced socities. It is a pity to talk against same sex partners. Which human tells you that sex is penetration? It is no wonder you are always infected with disease. Can you do straight sex on empty stomachs? It is a very trivial thing to talk about compared the prevailing abuse of our country resources. THINK DO NOT BE THICK BLACK SKINS.
#9 Mutagazya.
I too watched the cobra’s interview on muvi tv. The last thing he said was and I cot “LAWS ARE THERE, lifwekelo, cifire, we will sot them out.”End of cot. If yo interlect sevs u ryt. THE COBRA merely confirmed that laws are in place that support this satanic act. Watch newsweek on Sunday. Lets scrutinize each individual seeking public office. As for the Cobusu president. Having shared the same monk square nd fighting battles with the police together during my days there. He can neva be bot by n1 as some of u are insinuating.
Number 15: Your Sata is immoral,period.When you are immoral in small things what more in big things like governing a country.Sata has no policy,no strategy and no phylosophy on how to govern this country. It will be a waste of time giving him responsibility to run this country
PF supporters where are you?
Now that Sata has disqualified himself from presidential race with this unfortunate issue of gays’ rights in a christian country , HH should be given chance to govern this country as we absolutely need change in this country .
Let’s do it as we did it in1991 with ” kumulu ni Lesa , panshi ni ine “.
God should not be challenged at all costs ; he created man and later a woman with a purpose that no
one can overturn . Let’s have FEAR for the almighty God before his wrath can act as it did with Sodoma and Gomora .
I , particularly , exclude myself from such a stance as Sata’s .
Does Micheal Chilufya Sata smiles? Bloogers kindly submit one picture to LT for me to show me convince my workmates who mean and evil looking this man is. The man is immoral no wonder RB always call him mambala. He is a mambala.
David Chikwanda mwaiche dont think we have never been in you situ b4 trust me we know the system. you have been paid to say the crap and you are given the platform to publish the CRAP. FOR THOSE WHO THINK THIS IS OUT OF THE ORDINERY TRY DOING MORE RESEARCH ON THE SAME AND YOU WILL SEE THAT THE MMD IS UPTO NO GOOD THEY WILL JUST DO ABOUT ANYTHING TO DISTROY THE OPPOSITION AND YOU CHAPS ARE THE ONES WHO ARE BEEING USED TO DO THIS. LOOK AT THE NEWS WHICH IS TELEVISED. YOU WONT FIND ANYTHING TO SAY WE ARE SURFERING TRY TO SERACH FOR “LOVENESS” ON YOU TUBE. MMD IS UPTO NO GOOD!
Does Micheal Chilufya Sata smiles? Bloogers kindly submit one pictures to LT for me to show and convince my workmates how mean and evil this man is. The man is immoral, no wonder RB always call him Mambala.He is a Mambala.
By virtue of being at CBU, this David Chikwanda iz not only expected to be intelligent in class but wize az well. He should read between the linez not to be swayed by gutter propaganda against the oppozition. Higher institutionz of learning have even high rates of the so called gayz who need “help and understanding”, than hiding in this Christian Nation thing.
Sata is finished period. Viva RB
Come election day, all politicians will want every vote whether it will come from a gay or lesbian voter. You hypocrites!! Elyo uyu Union President mukopo uwakamamo namenshi! Start by removing the gays that are at CBU and see if you will survive a day.
People, being gay is wrong,immoral and should not be tolerated or should it? There are a lot of vices which are immoral and unacceptable, but should this stop government from protecting such individuals. I think being gay is a choice, so is prostitution. Do you realise that even the prostitute is protected not because its a right because they are human beings and have rights. Are we then saying that prostitution is legal? of course not. Its not a question of defending the gays fellow human beings.Pipo pliz even a prisoner on death row has rights.Lets not judge them and leave that to God. I know being gay is a sin and we can only advise such individuals and try to help them. The rest is purely there choice. remember that even if we try and stop them they still do it somehow.
THOSE THAT ARE DOUBTING THAT SATA DID NOT SAY WHAT HE IS BEING ACCUSED OF, TUNE IN TO ZNBC ON THURSDAY AND SATURDAY 20:00 HOURS AND HEAR THE COBRA SPEAK. I PERSONALLY HEARD HIM SPEAK FOR HOMOS. NOW YOU see why we say SATA CANNOT BE TRUSTED WITH STATE POWER. HE EVEN DENIES THINGS HE HAS SAID. JOHN PHIRI should particularly listen to this recording. I hope Chanda Chimba will buy airspace on all radio stations to air this recording because SATA has refused ever uttering those words.
Shame on this mudala!! Maybe he is gay with his secretary general.. VIVA HH VIVA change 2011.
please zambian!!!you watched or heard a voice record where Sata himself said laws are there for this satanism act to be implemented as long as they fund him,if catholic church is built on God’s principal let them condem this evil man with evil attitute for the name,the bible says you shall know them by their fruits,and birds of the same furthers flock together,let the catholic come out in the open over these issues of gay,frank bwalya speak out over your uncle who said laws are there,are you a fake priest or not if not what can you say over that,was Sata’s voice edited????Sata is evil so are his policies,pipo just follow blindly,thats why PF was formed out of frastration not on morals or with an agenda
WE CANNOT HAVE A PRESIDENT ADVOCATING THE DEVIL’s RIGHTS as CHILUBA WOULD PUT IT. THE ZAMBIAN SOCIETY IS CLEAR ON SUCH RIGHTS> IT”S ILLEGAL IN ZAMBIA> please go somewhere else where such are recognised, not in our Zambia. A presidential candidate who is championing this should never get our votes. This is clearly going against God’s order even if it is a matter of choice/. We cannot, as a people make this issue legal, no no no no no! SATA deserves a RED CARD on this one. HE should be banned for two five-year terms. May God hear our petition, WE DON”T WANT SATA WHO PROMOTES GAYS AND LESBIANISM IN ZAMBIA> THERE HAS NEVER BEEN ANY LEADER PROMOTING SUCH BELOW ANIMAL RIGHTS. OUR FATHER HEAR US FROM HEAVEN AND STOP THIS MAN. SATA is actually contaminating the Catholic Church which he…
IF YOU CONTINUE TO IMPERSONATE OTHERS YOU RISK BEING BANNED
IF YOU CONTINUE TO IMPERSONATE OTHERS YOU RISK BEING BANNED
SATA Cant refuse that guy can refuse anything…CCTV showed him putting his passport in his Jacket he refused and said they fabricated the whole thing…..SATA is by all means tryibng to be President and God has shown us the length at which he could go just to be in STATE House…..Power at all costs, to satisfy his MACHEVIELIAN status . PF supporters are the ones now saying no…he didnt mean it he said the laws are there in Zambia and they be implemented meaning they will not allow for Gay and lesbianism…..twisting the whole thing……i really dont understand this loyalty. They have reached the groupthink mentality where they cant imagine outside the BOX SATA has become a Dogma to them.
Lets get Sata out of the picture and just discuss homosexuality here; A university student should always be advocating for a debate in any field-not condemning advocates of a particular viewpoint. Unless the universities are now having no lecturers and dogma is becoming the norm. When a university promotes or advocates debate on a subject like homosexuality, that is not to mean it supports homosexuality. The reason for having universities is for them to provide research results that society can use in arguments to pass bills into acts. Research can only be beneficial to society if it is done objectively not with an ulterior motive. So to hear a student speaking the way David Chikwanda is doing is tragic. The Universities are not serving their roles.
#16 in your quote you have left out what sata said on his mariage and christian stand. You have also left out what he said on wife grabbers and thiefs.You are so biased like chanda chimba. You only pick statements which suit you to discredit sata just like chifire and lifwekelo did. Learn to tell the truth and depart from lying all becase you want to make sata unpopular. Why are you so scared of sata if you are confident your Nyama soya will win with land slide victory.
Micheal Sata must be excommunicated from the Holy Catholic Church. His ideas do not conform with the teaching of the Church. Dont mess with the teachings of the Church.You dont have to be a Rocket Engineer to know that no life can come out of such relationships (Homosexual). Sata is in a mess and the majority of Catholics will not support him. Using the principle of the lesser evil RB appears to be less evil than one Micheal Chilufya Sata.
i heard the recording myself and i am so disappointed with what i heard
Surely Mr Sata why are you advocating for such rights to the point of justifying that the Zambian government has laws to protect them. in whatever way people try to defend this statement the fact still remains that he has said that he is to implement them. Why????????? As a christian in whatever denomination the Bible is the same and is clear on this subject. We cannot compromise on God’s word, please pipo just becoz some are for it??. It is a clear indication of ones character.
#33, how straight is Sata on marriage? Considering that he has many children with different women. On thieves, i believe he was referring to FTJ. He(Sata) was the one who said chiluba was innocent and would be freed if PF wins when he went to welcome him from SA at the airport in 2006. Sata actually went to Luapula and told people there that Levy wants to wrongly imprison your son. Basically that is how he got votes there. How then does the same Sata call FTJ a thief. It is very clear in the CDs that Sata is for homos in order to please his financiers(Danish) and promoters the Post. If he says otherwise, he will loose the support from the Post, the only media house remaining in his team. If Sata wins these elections, its basically the devil that has won and us christians hate the devil.
Why are Zambians preoccupied with this gay issue, which is unsolvable? It is just another way politicians use to SPREAD HATRED. 20 years, 40 years, 1000 years from now, this issue will still be on the table. Doesn’t it make sense to abandon this debate on gays and leave them alone to do their thing so that we can engage in meaningful pursuits. From what I have seen, even western countries have not totally embraced gay people. It is only this year that Obama allowed them to serve in the military openly. So for a young country such as ours to become so involved in this issue is time wasting and counter-productive. These people have always been around and will be there whether you like it or not. In America, a Bishop Eddie Long, leader of a 30000 church was recently outed as a homo…
We are talking about morality here. How about a man who is indecently exposing himself to a girl twice his age every night.
sata was disjointed on muvi tv yesterday(he coudnt talk the way he talks, he was caught hands down). Finally, time has caught up with him.
Chifire doesnt know that the bill of rights embeded in our constitution is more superior than all these other laws he is so dull. that is what sata is quoting. let us not say because we are a christian nation then there will be no gay people. The USA is a christian nation yet they even oden gay pasters and gay mariages. Worse enough what are you going to say about Obama coz he has signed to allow gaysm in the navy. Dont make a big issue out of nothing be objective Ba MMD.
From this report, I dont think Mr Sata is supporting gays…. these CBU boys are being WELL paid by some MMD to twist Mr Sata’s speach. This is a christian country and Sata is a Roman catholic who has a stand against gays, I paulse a question, WHICH CHRISTIAN BACKGROUNDS DO OTHER PARTY LEADER HAVE, HH and HE ?
NO MATTER HOW MUCH TIMES OF ZOMBIE & ZOMBIE DAILY ARE USED AGAINST SATA [MMD & RUPIA’s ONLY POLITICAL THREAT], RUPIA BANDA MUST GO! RUPIA IS BLIND MAN. NO VISION AT ALL. KUYA BEBELE!
i did not know that the cobra can go to that extent. how on earth can one support homosexuality and the person wants to be a president of the republic. twasebana zoona
To all the monks, mojos, nuns & mommas, you have to stand up and propagate the moral stand that this great nation is founded upon.Abash HOMO politicians, abash SATANIC policies and viva moral political parties
Mutangazya
In the first place. I guess it wud be shocking for u to learn that im not an MMD sympathiser. I have a recorded message/interview were the cobra is on record as having said that ”we have laws in our country which promote gaysm and lesbianism”.”The only thing remaining is for us to implement them.” Further more, I by chance yestaday watched the much toked about stand up for zambia on znbc yesterday.
The same message was rebroadcasted in the documentary. I was born a christian and i will live and die as one.
My bible encourages me to call sin by its name and to codemn it in the strongest possible terms.And such satanic acts shud not be spared of condemnation, and so are its advocates.
GOD WILL SAVE OUR NATION FROM LEADERS WHO WANT TO TURN IT IN2 SODOM &…
A nation full of hypocrites!! The same students and people opposed to gay rights are drunks, fornicate, steal, adulterates, lie and do all sorts of sins which they dont stand up to condem. You hypocrites! First remove the log in your eyes before you can see the speck in your brothers eye. AND FOR YOUR INFORMATION MR SATA DID NOT AND HAS SUPPORTED GAY RIGHTS IN ZAMBIA. HE SAID THERE ARE LAWS THAT DEAL WITH GAY RIGHTS THAT MUST BE IMPLIMENTED AND THE LAWS OF ZAMBIA are clear on this issue. In short MR SATA was simply saying ‘DONT ASK ME ASK THE LAW”. CBU students are below par on this one.
It is said that Sata mentioned that Zambian laws do not prohibit gay rights. I confirm that this statement is legally correct. Does this statement mean he supports gay rights? The answer is a categorical NO! Would this be a lucuna in our law? I wonder…Rather I would hold that Sata supports the will of the Zambians through the existing laws. I then wonder why learned men and women of our country would choose to take this statement as to mean that Sata “supports” this status qua.
I submit that Sata is not a legislator. As such, he does not make laws for Zambia. Zambians through their parliament make laws for Zambia. Allow me to move that it is the MMD which has promoted these rights. I say so because for 20 years, the MMD has failed, and/or neglected to present a bill to parliament so
that gay rights can be prohibited in our statutes. Sata has never been a republican President hence has never had an opportunity to ascent to such a bill. How then will one insinuate that sata is found wanting? Such is defective analysis.
In the absence of a prohibitive statute, Sata would have no right to anoint laws for Zambia. His response in all ways proves that he respects constitutionalism hence must be applauded than scorned for this.
I agree with Jacob, Zambia has bigger issues to deal with. The gay issue in Zambia is minor and it takes focus away from the real issues: poverty, unemployment, poor service delivery in all sectors, food security, the list is endless. And I am amazed that a student body leader would take stance that is premised on flaky details. Yes Zambia is a Christian nation, but what does that really mean? I tend to wonder about people who rush to the ” chritsian nation line”. What real implications does it have for the Zambian society, is it just the convenient line for dealing with issues that cause discomfort, or does have any bearing on issues like corruption, alcoholism, adultery, teenage pregnancy?
My problem with politicians like Sata is that they are has-beens, I mean he had his…
I would believe this if at all it came from independent people other than MMD caders and RB bootlikers
Imweeeh….do u thnk sata is so foolish to be supporting gays when he knows is been recorded on tape,ladies and gentlemen lets not be fooled. By the way what guarantee is there that sata said what chimba III is waffling…am dissapointded with chimba’s primitiveness…. MMD WAWA…!
TOTAL RUBBISH!! WE CAN’T HAVE THIS NONSENSE, NO GAY RIGHTS. THEY’RE ANIMALS….!
We have a number of real issues to talk about. Let’s talk development, imployement and poverty. How are we going to get out of this situation???
If only Zambians devoted much of their time to talk about what will improve their lives, this country would have made some significant progress. I wonder how the alleged support for gay rights by Sata will put or remove bread and butter on/from peoples tables? Why dont we focus our energies on issues relating to provision of quality education, quality healthcare, food security, science and technology, etc. This crusade to assassinate characters of opponents (whether MMD, PF, UPND, etc) is a huge disservice to the Zambians and sadly Zambians themselves seem to be enjoying it!! It is a tragedy.
Am Divorcing my wife, marry a fellow man and then join PF!!!!
an opportunity should be given to RB to express his view on gay and lesbians. MMD has been in power since 1991 and they havent made it illegal. why is everyone crucifying Sata? i would have expected CBU students to be more objective than what they have exhibited. lets not just say it is illegal let the constitution say it is illegal. if there is no law against then it is open to many interpretations
COME RAIN, COME SUNSHINE……..PACT OR NO PACT……PVT OR NO PVT……IT’S NOW PF FOR LIFE……HH IS TOO IMMATURE, AND ALA BI IS TOO CRAFTY……THAT LEAVES ME WITH SATA FOR LIFE!!!!!!
Mwaice akulwishafye meal allowance, dont involve yoself in things beyond you. news of university students selling cocaine and prostituting is order of the day.
Red Card dont twist what he said in your view you think he said there is no law thats not what he said he said………..The Zambia Lawz have provisions of Gay and Lesbianism….its implementation that has not been done. meaning if he SATA will become President then this law will be enforced………….which constitution is he talking about….please tell me.
PABWAAAAATOOOOOO>>>>
VOTE for Micheal Chilufya SATA!
PF cadres, please let’s get things clear. If the old man Chilufya was misquoted by the state media, so in fact you are confirming that as PF supporters you do not support gayism and lesbianism, am I right?
#55 Sipho, your request has been granted. RB was on ZNBC TV last night or the other night where he expressed his views on the issue of homos. He told his audience that it was unnatural, un christian and he was at pains to even mention the despicable words (and I may add to imagine that a normal Zambian elder politician could even propose those things in our Zambia…). And guess what? In his audience there was among many others none other than that great son of Africa, yes KK no less. And the old man could not hide his embarrassment at the topic, probably wondering what had befallen Zambia.
Is this confirmation that Blacks are the most ignorant race on the planet? I can’t believe university students who should be progressive in their thinking are so backward and ignorant. Christianity is a Western Religion. So since you claim that homosexuality is a western custom, why embrace its religion and not its custom? Stupid! Homosexuality exist in all cultures and if you backward ignoramuses did some actual research you would see that homosexuality existed in Zambia before the Europeans brought Christianity! Sine you people take offence to Western cultures, why the heck you wear clothes, drive cars, use the internet, telephones, T.V’s, microwaves etc etc. All these are from the West. No wonder the White man is said to be superior to the Blacks!
Can the PF President come out clean on this issue. Running in circles over such an important matter will not help him in his pursuit for plot one. Can someone close to him advise the old man to state very clearly his stand on gay rights in Zambia. Pliz we demand to know the truth before casting our precious votes on the PF leader.
#8 John Phiri- In todays technology a desperate MMD can manufature any evidence to accuse Sata of things they hope will destroy him.If a man says there no laws in Zambia tha bans this and that does that mean he supports this and that? Even the Donor countries that are being implicated had already said that it is up to Zambia to formulet laws no them the Donors.
PABWAAATOOOO>>>> Forward with the boat!
Vote for Micheal Chilufya Sata in the forthcoming ELECTIONS!!!!
#62 truthseeker- No matter how many times Sata says he never said what they are accusing of, Times of Zambia, ZNBC, Zambia Daily Mail will never cover that in their publications. This is the saddest part on the MMD. The innocent reporters etc in these instittutions are being used to champion the MMD at all costs. But happens when a new government comes in? It will be the biggest purge we have yet to see in this Country. I feel sorry for these employees. MMD think they hold all the powers in the world, let them think so.
#45 refer to number 46. My point is that you should not just pick part of a statement and start broadcasting it. Secondly Sata has denied the allegations so why continue the same discussion. This is what I call cheap propaganda by MMD vuvuzelas.
2011 Vote for PF!!
The Government in waiting!
BA CBU – such hopeless kids. You will all end up ba chakolwa. For Academics, you are very shallow minded.
The Vuvuzelas will make all the uncodinated noise they want, it won’t change our voting this year!
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Vote for PF!
What a bunch of ignorant 4ools! No wonder they say “the only darkness about africa is ignorance” you respect crap religons that make u stab ur brothas n the back. Shame!!! Even dogs and apes in the bush are tolerant to homosexuality which is by the way a natural born thing, one does nt wake up one day and decide to become gay! Its a painful life long process of self acceptance that one is born that way No ‘virgin or whore’ can make an homosexual straight nor any ‘shlong or big pipe’ can change a lesbian. BECAUSE THEY WERE BORN THAT WAY!
dont forget that one out of ten is born that way, could it be that because u black africans that dont want to accept reality are just uptight about sex because sex was, is and will always be a tabu thing to talk about. But secretly ‘whip’ anythin!
For Academics, you should aspire to further your education abroad at reputable Universities in order to be more beneficial to Zambia, but you cannot because all the reputable Universities in the world support Gay Rights.
So you will just stay buried in Kitwe and work for RB for life.
CBU – Cowards Born Undetected
Why dont you speak on the real issues in the country. Why? Are you afraid to be shut down again by your President. lol
This Chikwanda is stu.pid, which students have refused? While he is saying something which would be likely its not right to insinuate that its students who said, when in actual fact CBU is closed right now. Where did they have that general meeting with students who are at home right now? This is a very foo.lish way trying to get paid by MMD.
#70: thats very good analysis. Concerting adults are free to engage in any activities they deem fit!
Please give us a break on a useless issue than this one.In Zambia there are no morals but pretence.Where are morals when a former president is comitting adultery with someones wife?And you call that marriage.Where are our morals when someone marries his own daughter and is a leader of a nation?We are morally bankrupt and we pretend to be christians.The same students who are protesting are involved in homosexuality.Zambia is not a christian nation.We are pretenders and hypocrites.Where is our morality when people steal our resources with impunity?We expect the same students to demonstrate against people who have been cited in the auditors report as thieves.The issue of homosexuality will not put food on our tables.It will not provide employment even to the same students who are protesting.
# 78 Would you say that adultery and incest, for instance, should be tolerated as long as those involved are consenting adults? Would those in relationships also entertain unfaithfulness from their partners for the same reason. Where would society be without moral laws to regulate behaviour? Above all, the Supreme law Giver is the heavenly Father who gave us the Bible, from which many laws in the human judicial system are, in fact, derived.
#80 – Your comparisons are out of whack. Gay and adultery cannot be the same.
Discrimination is rampant in Zambia. Even the disabled are discriminated against. Show me a building or a bus in Zambia that is adapted for wheelchair access?
@ Putt above Christianity is not a western religion, I do not know what map you are using but the world is flat map was discarded eons ago. Hahahahahahaha ati its a western religion na geography mwa le doja. To the f.o.o.l above calling black people ignorant, does sticking a man’s private parts into fecal matter constitute being informed and smart today, then I will gladly be stup.id.
Sata’s should be told by his wife who is a doctor that the anus is for passing faecal material after it has finished digestion not for sex.Infections such as ecoli can thrive in feacal matter.Once ecoli gains entry into our urinary system through what Cobra is supporting, they can make people extremly ill and could kill them.Come on Mr Cobra! We don’t unneccesary and avoidable deaths.You are flown to SA when your veins to your heart gets clogged up and leave a common man in Kabwe general on a death bed.
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March 16, 2011 at 7:59 pm
Sata’s should be told by his wife who is a doctor that the anus is for passing faecal material after it has finished digestion not for sex.Infections such as ecoli can thrive in feacal matter.Once ecoli gains entry into our urinary system through what Cobra is supporting, they can make people extremly ill and could kill them.Come on Mr Cobra! We don’t want unneccesary and avoidable deaths.You are flown to SA when veins to your veins to the heart gets blocked through a fault of your own smoking a pipe.
A common man is left without panadol and drips
# 84, your analysis is shallow. People get sick which ever sexual preference they are as long as they are careless.How many straight people have passed on due to sexual related illnesses and how many gays have died due to the same. You are trying to show us your little knowledge of biology yet you are showing us how ignorant you are. If indeed you are in the UK as your flag suggests please come back home. You are so clue less in what you are doing with your life
Forget the poor universitiy students. Probably NONE of them even owns a personal computer so they luck adequate information thus their luck of understanding of simple human genetics & characteristics.
Lets assume those uni students did their literature reading from tattered books on dusty street corridors surely u do nt expect them t have educated themselves enough about homosexuality. As a result their ‘ignorance + the primitive bantu mentality + brainwashed christian nation attitude = Zed gays and lesbians are in great danger of being murdered in cold blood by their own people’. Christianity was FORCED upon black africans It should be the last religion that modern africans should embrace its a religion that chained the ‘africoolness’ to the christian savages they’ve become
Its very annoying that even CBU chaps who are supposed to be stars of interllect are acting on fibes.. not even bothering to get the full details..very silly and tipical of the unlerning zambian..
#65 Putt You are very ignorant cowardly and very prejudiced. You make s.t.upid statements about blacks that you would not make if you met me or any other proud black. You can only say these things under a pen name but wait until I discover who you are and your canternkering days will be numbered! Your thinking is so shallow you lose the argument for your fellow homosexuals. Using western technology (cars, internet, telephones) is not the same as succumbing to Western culture. Asia uses Western technology but is still entrenched in its own culture. By the way not all technological products come from the West unless you are uneducated. Because White men are more tolerant to homosexuality that doesnt make them superior to Blacks! You must be shallowest of the shallow to think like that.
This Stupit boy cobusu chairboy is speaking on his behalf because us the real CBU students have not yet reported for classes… we shall sort him out ..we know that the FOOLISH JOE MALANJI has given him K4,000,000 to make foolish statements. For yopur ow information CBU is FOR SATA, ask the LECTURERS AND INDEPENDENT STUDENTS. they wioll tell you iwe pushi ,,,,,,this ***** we shall force you out of office just wait for April monthend………….. kabili uli cikopo sana idoit akubelenga fye filya yaponeneko where do think the 4mita will take you? kolwe iwe
as for Elisha Matambo ….. tell us about SATANISM and FREE MANSON status of HH…..atleast Rupiah Banda is a Buldist ……
Zambians beware all these empoverished mouths are misleading you……… i never wanted to vote for SATA but i will try him because he seems to have more power than the sitting president no wonder they are not sleeping,,,, spending alll they have stolen to pay would mouth pieces to discredit on one man… WHAT A USELESS GOVERNMENT!!!!!!! spend money on medical facilities than pay banjala to talk about the EVIL SATA………. and it takes a thief to catch a thief….so alll you evil doers MMD,UPND,PF you are doomed… some foreign forces will be incharge now!
I thought we have intellectual at CBU. For a party to rule for 20 years, really makes it easier to brain wash its citizens, MMD has already found a story to brain wash you chaps and forget about things that matter, sale of Zamtel, Napsa scandle, etc. Gay issue is optional and its foolish for anyone to take it even when Sata allows it. We have now shifted the battle to fight and protect immoral peolpe who could easly fall into gay practice at the expense of masses of zambians suffering from poverty, high levels of unemploment, corruption. Sata will never knock at your door and say become a gay.
Only fools will buy that story for gay because its a mere propaganda. For your own information, MMD has nothing to offer to you thats why they can only use propaganda to buy votes and that does not make your future bright enen after you leave CBU my friend because zesco will be sold just after elections if you are in sch of electrical.
You people are not fair, at first you said president kaunda was not a good learder,second was F.T.J. Chiluba and you called him all sorts names i.e kabolala, kafupi, crook etc. third was Levi mwanawasa the one you called cabbage and after his death he became the perfect man than in his life time. fourth is Bwezani the current president still calling him bad names. and lastly the same sata who is busy promoting gay rights will be the waste among all the presidents we shall have in zambia. pliz zambians open your eyes and vote wisely…… :x
if truely sata is supporting gay rights he will not be the president of this country. its just a reminder that God is watching this country 24hrs. and he will provide the leader he wants, someone who fears his name. let God choose the leader of this country. Amen…..:d:o:o:o:o
Zambia has only been a Christian country since British imperialism extinguished the beautiful animistic religions which hitherto existed in “Zambia,” so I find it a pity that so many Zambians are so thoroughly indoctrinated by the perversions of Christianity, or any other foreign faiths for the matter. Zambians should revert to traditional beliefs and shed the fanaticism, immorality, and abuse the Christianity promotes, fosters, and distributes.
p.S. revisionist attitudes are to blame for homophobia in Zambia, and africans who reject homosexuality as immoral are displaying merely one of the hundreds of imported beliefs forcefully manifested on the Zambian people. In non-Abrahamic pre-colonial African nations, gays were treated very equal. The regional Mutapa kingdom even had gay…