Tuesday, April 23, 2024

Chiluba’s funeral to gobble K4.6 billion, as family rules out postmortem

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Information minister Ronnie Shikapwasha reads a statement during a press briefing while Permanent Secretary Ngosa Chisupa listens

Government says it needs about K4.6 billion for the funeral of late second republican president Dr Fredrick Chiluba.

Chief Government spokesperson Lieutenant General Ronnie Shikapwasha has told QFM that government has so far raised between K2 billion and K2.5 billion.

General Shikapwasa says the money will go towards the burial and accommodate all administrative and logistics for the funeral.

He adds that it is for this reason that government is appealing for financial and material support from well-wishers towards the state funeral.

General Shikapwasha says members of the public wishing to make contributions can do so by channeling their contributions through district and provincial administration offices countrywide.

He says it is government’s appeal that all well-wishers and mourners support the bereaved family.

Meanwhile the family of late second republican president Dr Fredrick Chiluba has resolved not to carryout a postmortem.

Speaking during a press briefing in Lusaka today, family spokesperson Ben Mwila says was after taking into consideration Dr Chiluba’s Christian beliefs and the fact that he had refused to have a heart transplant and any operation during the time he was sick.

He says the family decided to respect Dr Chiluba’s Christian beliefs.

Mr Mwila adds that according to the Lunda tradition,it is not allowed to conduct an operation on a king and that Dr Chiluba is considered as such.

The Chiluba family has also reiterated that the late president was a national leader and that those who wished to attend his funeral should do so without being harassed.

Mr Mwila has also thanked President Rupiah Banda and the First Lady on behalf of the family for the support rendered during the funeral.

QFM

197 COMMENTS

  1. Where will this colossal sum come from? Was it ‘budgeted’ for? Make it simple folks! Cut down on allowances for all those attending the funeral. Are you feeding the entire Lusaka population? Already some Ministers are finishing their projects and mansions from these funeral proceeds. That is sick!

  2. ba Ronnie you are not even ashamed to announce this crap. where is the $8m. Get part of it and use for the funeral. bakabwalala…………………….imwe………..get a lyf.

  3. On second thought, what is so dear about this funeral? this man had his own riches besides all the fracas about zamtroop.. I dont understand… it just sounds embarrassing that Shika is begging and appealing to donors over this funeral…

  4. STOLEN CASH IN ZAMTROP ACCOUNT

    8 000 000 U.S. dollars = 38.6 billion Zambia kwacha

    DONATIONS FROM RAISED FROM FELLOW PLUNDERS

    K 2.5 Billion

    BALANCE NEEDED FOR FUNERAL

    K 4.6 Billion – K 2.5 Billion = K2.1 Billion

    CHANGE AFTER USING ZAMTROP STOLEN CASH

    K 38.6 -K 2.1 Billion = K36.5 Billion

    Ba Shikapwasya , since you used to dodge those maths lessons, I have done the maths for you. So where is the problem for you to be making headlines over this issue.

    Just send the change to my village, We need a school, hospital and a nice tarred road.

    • Be serious ba MMD and Shikapwasha why not just get his 8.5 million dollars stashed away in that ZAMTROP account. The man has died a billionaire. My funeral will only cost K100 pin but look at his! Billion kwacha funeral how rich in death!

    • tel it *SHIKAPWASHA*my dear. that money they r talking abt can do 10 small primary schools. we knw them, that hw they steal. it’s jst a loophole they’v seen. bakolwe.

  5. The government has so far raised between 2billion and 2.5billion zmk……

    What are u saying Mr Big nose? is this tax payers money or just contributions?If it is tax payers money,did we plan how it should be used?spending is not an issue but people should learn to account for every Ngwee spent!! not the way things where done during Mwanawasa’s funeral.

  6. hey rich folks, just contribute, the govt needs this money like yesterday. as at now, they ve not yet transfered june salaries for civil servants, the govt really needs this money for our salaries. not the funeral. funeral will be covered from interest from bahamas.

  7. The government has so far raised between 2billion and 2.5billion zmk……

    What are u saying Mr Big nose? is this tax payers money or just contributions from well wishers?If it is tax payers money,did we plan how it should be used?spending is not an issue but people should learn to account for every Ngwee spent!! not the way things where done during Mwanawasa’s funeral.

  8. people contribute there is only ifinkubala to feed the masses as at now.Money to buy t.bone is urgently needed.

  9. How does the government know the amount of money way before the funeral is concluded? Can General Shikapwasha tabulate the expenses involved or will be involved and the costs so that the Minister of Finance should tell us whether they have the money or note. How many poor Zambians are buried like chicken without the government caring. Do you tell me that the former had of state did have money?

  10. Well, why cant you break down the K4.6 billion to the lask coin? We want to see the budget, not just shouting figures. Sounds to be just too much for developing nation. For your own information, 1 classroom using community mode costs K60, 000, 000. Already we are losing 76 classrooms! And you say you are poor? No, you not. You lack brains. MHSRP

  11. now i wish he wasnt dead…. alive he costs us money and dead he costs money too….. this guy is unbelievable. no post-mortem because he died of cardiac arrest from Viagra overdose…. lmao

  12. This syndrome of asking for contributions when someone dies is getting on my nerves, I thought it was for the low class and market places where others would use that to raise money for tujilijili. Has our country gone to this level. That is a state funeral and government should carry out everything by funding it and chasing politics out of that. Politicising everything sure, can we afford to have a funeral towards elections am becoming suspicious.

  13. The actual cost of the funeral is K2.6 billion, the rest will go into people’s pockets. In other words, the money will be stolen. Chapwa.

  14. Zambia is a country of serious jokers and clowns for that matter black clowns, were on earth do u need 4.5billion for a funeral, gentlemen honestly lets get serious with life. we r heading towards the election and a funeral for one person shld cost that much. this is too much bu.ll sh.it.

  15. IT COSTS AROUND A MILLION KWACHA TO BURY A DEAD IN ZAMBIA SO WHY IS RONNIE SAYING K4.5 BILLION IS NEEDED. MAY WE KNOW WHAT TYPE OF FUNERAL THIS IS GOING TO BE. PRINCE WILLIAM. THE SON OF LATE PRINCE DIANA RECENTLY GOT MARRIED IN LONDON AND I BET HIS WEDDING COULD NOT HAVE COST HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND HALF THE COST THAN OF CHILUBA FUNERAL.THIS IS NOT A FUNERAL IF THEY ARE GOING TO SPEND THAT KIND OF TAX PAYERS MONEY.

  16. This government is truly insensitive to it’s people. Why would a funeral cost this much. The guy died in Zambia, unlike LPM who had to be flown back and then have his remains abused by flying him all over the place. Can someone in GRZ justify this huge expense. But ichalo chesu chalitipwa mwe. Haaaaaa, very depressing indeed.

  17. This is a joke, come on Mr Big nose, i dnt knw what we did to deserve such people like mr big nose, honestly this people have no shame at all. what kind of human being is Ronnie???? can someone plz help me to understand.

  18. Bafyatile fyabo … amafi yeka yeka! This chap store all there was to steal from a poor man like me! Why on earth, hell or heaven should I even do such? I know someone is thinking we are going to sympethize and U-Turn to shed crodile tears. How special is this funeral that we can even forget the Million patients in hosptals? Zambians … time we got serious. We the poor Zambians put him in that place: “Nga mwapakama Mulatulaba … mwanya bamakaka”

  19. $1 million for a funeral? Hmmmmm…………….In Zambia funerals are expensive,If you mentioned that figure here you cam get killed for wastage.

  20. Bafyatile fyabo … amafi yeka yeka! This chap stole all there was to steal from a poor man like me! Why on earth, hell or heaven should I even do such? I know someone is thinking we are going to sympethize and U-Turn to shed crodile tears. How special is this funeral that we can even forget the Million patients in hosptals? Zambians … time we got serious. We the poor Zambians put him in that place: “Nga mwapakama Mulatulaba … mwanya bamakaka”

  21. From K4.5b for the funeral, they should also build this late former President a house worth over K7b. Wow, awe even in death you are still a billionaire. Kuti wakumbwa nokuba Don Chilu

  22. The death of a former president is a national tragedy and I would hope that any functional country should have a budget for such eventualities. Asking members of public to contribute to the this funeral is not only an insult to FTJ’s family but is also a good example of a failed state. Failing to bury your former president within the resources of your Govt is unforgivable.

  23. These chaps after killing ka Kafupi now they want to raise money for theselves as top up on their gratuities!! My foot!! Ba Kabwalala, Ba Pompwe , Ba Sakala, Ba Lazooo. PF will come and follow you Shikapwasha, be careful.

  24. The only Kind word I have is for his Children – sad they’ve lost their loved one. Otherwise, calling a spade a spade: I will NEVER have kind words for the Late Chiluba …alitushupasana. Facing facts; I was going to LOVE it if he had gone behind bars at least for stealing someone’s wife…ubuchende bweka; ati ba paster! As for you fi MMD cadre, you had better go back home and morn remotely. We need some peace. You want to use his body to campign again! Mwaloba ilyauma.

  25. This guy who died already has our money. Please use the USD 46 million that he owes us for his funeral. Why should the government spend mone on a thief like that one?

  26. if Chilu’s is 4.6 billion what was Levy’s who was a sitting Presido? My mum is in UTH with a stroke, it took 4days 4 a scan and now a dead person that much,

  27. The leaders will get even more wicked.No amount of noise from home or on this blog will change the minds of these leaders who are not sure of there future. Every one of them is milking as hard as possible. This amount of money can do so much to improve people’s lives.Unfortunately if better to give Chiluba a VIP burial at the expense of 600 Zambian lives. Politics of the animal farm.

  28. We have to find a way to hold our leaders responsible,this generation has to act now for tomorrow Zambia. Accepting this to go own is a crime by all of us.pls use twitter,facebook and this blog to redeem our nation. Let us discus this my country men and women !

  29. You can trust this government at your own risk. Mr government spokesman just dreams of billions of kwacha without saying how they are arrived at. They are a tired lot and have run out of ideas. Appeal for funds to bury a former president?

  30. They have already started stealing. To them, this is an opportunity that comes once in a life. They stole when Levy died and they want to steal now. WHere on earth can a funeral cost that much?

  31. ZAMBIANS BE HAVE YOU SEEN, HONESTLY IS THIS TRUE? SHIKAPWASHA IWE BWAMBAWISO! TELL US WHAT YOU WANT FROM PEOPLE, KA CHILUBA KALIBILE MONEY AGAIN YOU WANT SOME MORE, I-D-I-O-T! NKAKUPONWENA WISO ******WE…IT PAINS IF YOU DONT KNOW SWINE..

  32. Iwe shikanyo mpuno, what on earth is in that thick head of yoz, mamina yekayeka. 1million dollars for a mutherfuc.kin thief, cmon get serious guys.

  33. Where is this Chiluba going to be buried? is it in Zambia or some place in Mars where it takes shuttles to reach? If mmd wants to raise campaign money through this funeral,they should come out in the open and say it.Why on earth should a funeral cost billions of kwacha for only 7 days?This man besides stealing from us,was rich and as per constitution,there should be an allocation to such incidents for former heads of state.Unless Chiluba will be buried in 24 caret gold cascade,i see no way his funeral would cost billions.

  34. Chiluba was accused of stealing $57million. Compared with about $1million which govt wants to spend on him, its nothing. So why didn’t the state let the Chiluba family sponsor his funeral? They should have only assisted with one of the hearses that Rupiah bought!

  35. We just need to sell this Country; everything is in Billions Honestly what kind of expenses would amount to 4.6B,

    Where is the Government Contingency Fund, This is a state funeral?? What a shame that they want to depend on donations. Bukabolala, they just want to take poor Zambians for a ride.

  36. For sure az a former prezident FTJ must be mourned and buried honorably. However, the K4bn estimated budget iz on the high side. I only hope this figure doez not include thoze that must finish/buy off that plot/house, acquire that dream car, entertain that “sawa sawa lelo” and so on in the name of funeral expensez. 

  37. kaili they have to rent the entire belvedere lodge for a week plus food and drinks for an entire week. the worst is that we are peaceful zambians so they will carry on and do whatever they want and we will just take it in ur stride as usual.

  38. You are right #47. We have to bury him as a VIP  not at the sea or zambezi river like Osama but not at this cost honestly. 

  39. Hahaha,
    Let government give me the ZMK2.1 Billion it has raised. I can then insure that the funeral is managed using zmk1.6bn and give Regina the change for her transport with her family. Please Ron, i am giving my brains to cut down expenditure and reduce headaches on you. Give me the money. My phone number is: 0964331287. No corruption, proper accounting wil be ensured. No single sourcing of grave diggers etc.

  40. K4.6 billion, u must b joking, mulemushika ku space, the *****s huv seen a loophole, baiba again pachililo, as if what ShiCasto himself stole is not enough, yaba!!!!!!! poor Zambians, these pipo wil jst b shitting on us jst like that. Shame!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  41. Nothing surprises me pa Zed, how can he ask for money for a State Funeral? Why declare 7 days of mourning when you can’t even fund a funeral? Even “would be” sponsors are not stupid; where are those foreign chaps you sold all those mines to in the 90s iwe Ka Chiluba? *****s.. that’s the reason why you should encourage and empower local entrepreneurs first; they and only them will develop ZAMBIA. and will not forget you!!
    Just bury him and get on with business ba swine…nobody cares about post-mortem really.. even if he died from a shotgun wound!!!! 

  42. Thugs and thieves always know what has killed one of their own. This is why the government does not want a postmortem. They like living in ignorance.

  43. If Jesus was around and we asked him about the K4.6billion, he would just say in reply “LET THE THIEVES BURY THEMSELVES”

  44. This is nonsense!!! Why spend such huge amounts just on a funeral. Don’t you have better things to do with all that money? Are you not ashamed to even say such things? What sort of a Reverend are you anyway?????

  45. Do not insult the dead who is not going to participate in chewing the money which people who loved him are contributing, insult the living who are going to use it wrongly. If you are not making any contribution why are you yapping, probably you dont even pay tax. In your villages you dont bury chiefs?

  46. Why not use the 4.6billion to construct a modern market to replace the gutted Buseko you’ll be helping the poor traders and more votes in the forthcoming elections.

  47. I personally feel so sad about the way we Zambians are behaving nowadays. I bet some of you even call yourselves “Christians”. Where has the respect gone people? Is this what you have learnt as you have gone to live in the diaspora or the so called Western World. Is this what you call civilisation. If some of your parents could read of what you write, would they be proud of you. Think about this guys.

    • Is this what you call a Christian Nation where the gov’t is publicly begging for money for a State Funeral…just last week it was giving out houses, suddenly finding funds to patch-up roads and hand out sweets!!
      WAKE UP!!

    • Naomi attitudes like yours are what allow less than honourable people like these to perpetuate this disgusting behaviour!!!!!…Christianity does not mean putting up with nonsense lies and mediocrity….I take it you’ve given to the funeral fund then???…or better still…if you do not oppose what is going on then you agree with it which puts you in the class of the less than honourable people already mentioned…get some exposure girlfriend!!

  48. The country has really gone to the dogs.Thats why we must change this government and ensure that they pay for all this.This agly bad man called Shikapwasha is but a wolve in sheep skin.ba kabwa!

  49. K4.6 billion of someone dead? Iwe Ronnie please give us a breakdown of all the costs and make them public. because I am not convinced. K4.6billion? for what? But zoona Africa will forever remain poor because we focus so much on amailele. I think the world should just end. I cant withstand seeing such nosense and unbalanced lifestyles. Some people go without food for days while some attract gobble K4.6billion on their funeral. What a world. God please come and save us. We cant take this anymore.

  50. I did not vote for Zambia to be declared a Christian Nation. This was crap. The thug is dead, let him die hard. No money from me. Thieves do not deserve peace and quiet. Americans danced when their enemy died, so why should we be sad when the guy who took our jobs, shut down our industries, stole our future and sold our assets for nothing, and grabbed the little was was raised for his shoes and suits? This guy must go quietly. If the government has no use for money, let them give it to the UTH so that it gets water on a continous basis instead of the current dribs and draps! Shame on the MMD. I am glad that the architect of their culture is dead.

  51. Naomi.

    Dont be funny u s.t.u.p.i.d girl.Do you know how many innocent zambians are dying in hospitals due to lack of medicines,how many die due to hunger and you want au to part away with a million dollars to bury a thief.uselees unmannered girl.wechipuba.indoshi…

    • eh ee mwandi tell her….katwishi abakebele ati Christianity means turning a blind eye to nonsense!!!

  52. I am counting! How many decent people would part with their hard -earned money to bury a destroyer of a nation, a tug and a thief, a grabber of other people’s wives, an election rigger, a guy who glorifies himself as a Dribbler when stealing from innocent citizens and ensures that retirees have nothing over their heads and go to sleep hungry? Only fools and *****s would give money to a self-confessed thief who is now dead. RIP dead thug!

  53. I agree with 68. Naomi you in Australia and you see how the government put taxpayers money to good use. are you one of the ministers daughter or what.

  54. Guys this is a fundraising venture the funeral will only gobble 600 million and the rest if for campaigns

  55. Or why not use this money to order vaccines to fight Polio which may break out at anytime on the C?Belt as per health warning issued instead of wasting such money on a no-gooder?

  56. Ne nsoni shikapwasha teti ukwateko!!! K4.6bn!!! And you have no iota of shame to go public and beg for money from the people that Chiluba stole from, the same people he did not even want to ask for forgiveness from, the same people he sent to graves early cos of non payment of pensions after selling companies, the same people he dribbled…. God help us!! The outside world must be wondering what kind of leaders we have here!! Morons! Imbeciles! Minions! Ine na maka yapwa!!

  57. Noushalimo akabamo!

    Watch how these plunderers are starting to drop like flies. Chiluba’s former Aide Mutupa collapsed and died in his car….

  58. Hospitals do not have medical equipments or medicine. It would make more sense to use $4.6 billion for that. There are pupils at UNZA who can’t afford their school fees to become doctors to save lives. Honestly, using over $800,000 to bury a person in Zambia is being extravagant whether the person was a president or not. Zambia can’t even give decent education and water to children in the villages. Chiluba is gone MHSRIP, we all sympathise with the family but they are people still living that need urgent help. There is no need for such a lavish funeral when some people don’t even know where their next meal is. The best thing they can do to honor him is build a charity. They can use that money to make a long term difference in the country. Govt plse be fiscally responsible for a chang

  59. PEOPLE PEOPLE PLEASE
    Let’s respect our former KING, why do you have to pop your noise where you don’t belong. Remember the good tyms when he was your KING of Zambia, bury your King in peace and move on. What is money compared to what JESUS CHRIST can do for you in tyms of sorrows. Today you are napping? tomorrow is you?

  60. Musokotwane will not be mourned. He has continue the culture of destroying Zambia just like the dead thug. Any decent Zambian giving money towards burying a dead thief and thug is also equally a thug and a thief, not worthy of a beautiful nation like ours. We must struggle hard to get our money back even when the thug is 200 feet below!! Mwaumfwa? Ikwiba tachawama iyoo! Icalo cesu cacula sana pantu babwalala bafula mu government. Pauti bonse bakapwe no kufwa, ninshi natukota. So ma guys, let us ensure that PF wins, because the MMD are all thieves. They like the culture of money for no work, but from stealing.

  61. All we knew was stealing, hunger, unemployment and suffering when he was so called KING. This guy was a serious imposter as he mislead us into believing that he was a democrat when in fact he was a thug and thief in disguise. Now he must meet the real king where ever he has run to. For sure, he wont dribble the real KING there.

  62. LT don’t post such stories they make people angry,lose their tempers and start insulting. Next tym chose what stories to publish!!!!

  63. And how does David Cameron justify his campaign for foreign aid before the British people, if for burrying a deceased person in Zambia, the Zambian government has to blow away more than £500,000?

  64. This man had a lot of money so use it. I’m wondering why this troll Horny Shikapwasha keeps thinking Zambians will give out their hard earned and taxed earnings.
    This frogman should stop being a clown. Anyway what do you expect in a government where the head of state is a Bozo clown

  65. *%, this is a free country. Citizens MUST have a right to express their opinion, otherwise the politicians will think that we are all sheep!

  66. We all know that the head of state is also a mifiaso boss. This is why he is so corrupt. Decent citizens should not give money to bury a thief! This is illogical and immoral! Thieves must bury thieves! Not us, decent people.

  67. Everyday that passes the country loses money, every day that little corpse lays in state..you knew all along that there was not going to be a Post-mortem you could have buried today…What’s wrong with these politicians of yesterday, they are so out of touch, they think maybe some western country will just cut them a million dollar cheque just like that…eh?? Those donors have to account for every cent they send to Zambia, how do you think they going to explain to their taxpayers contributing funds to a funeral of someone who was found guilty of stealing $46m by a British Court…some of those white guys you see there in Embassies use public transport when they get back to their native countries , whilst you are in your air conditioned Beemers ….Change is needed in Zambia!!! 

  68. this is f.u.c.ki.n id.io.cy, cremate the guy, it’s june, we could do well with uku ontako umulilo!! After all amalasha are cheap!!!

  69. I don’t know why the funeral has to be this expensive…we need to give this former president a respectable funeral like the one the Navy Seals accorded to Bin Laden. Buried at sea according to the judgment of the London High Court.

  70. ONLY THE CHINESE WILL GIVE MMD THAT KIND OF MONEY TO PROTECT THEIR INVESTMENT.4.6 BILLION KWACHA IS TOO MUCH FOR A FUNERAL,SHAME! CHILUBA IS DEAD AND I DONT SEE ANY NEED TO SPEND THAT KIND OF MONEY WHEN OTHERS ARE AT HOME AND DO NOT HAVE K10,000 TO BUY THE PRESCRIBED DRUGS.SOME STUDENTS DONT HAVE MONEY FOR SCHOOL FEES , SOME PEOPLE DON’T HAVE FOOD.WHY SHOULD WE SPEND THAT MUCH ON A DEAD PERSON NEGLECTING THE ONES THAT ARE ALIVE?

  71. you are such an *****. you must learn to have shame. where did he take all the monies he stole. how do we again start funding his funeral. rubbish. you are embarrassing a dead person. Chiluba was such an arrogant man.

  72. I wonder why they are panicking with ka ngwee,when rentals from Tedworthy properties are sitting at BOZ!!! and why asking the poor to contribute when the dead was rich!!!

  73. Its alot of public funds and those charged with the responsibility of disbursing funds should account for every ngwee and audit should be done within 30 days so that those who will fail to account should be takenb to court. Enough is enough Ronnie we are watching you.

  74. Tooooo much money spent on non-development stuff. Lets use that money to feed the underpriverledged kids to avoid further death of Innocent Zambians:d

    • Wewatumpa niweee …bukopo bobe! You mean you can’t see that you s.t.u.p.d chaps are in trouble; you want to steal even in your so called ichililo! Kwai pali Kalilo. Marabish!!!

  75. This is all shameful political point scoring by MMD…how does a government beg for such paltry sums from tax payers, if this was not election year they would have splashed out big, they take Zambias for utter mugs..what Christian steals other peoples wives, uses the umbrella of Christian  nation to plunder and loot the nation…
    There he was on that MMD TV Advert back in 1991; The hour has come, when…blah blah..how i foolishly believed him…

  76. Gents How do take funeral money to district or provincial adminitration.
    Its clear that MMD wants to steal this money and use it for campaigns.

    As for Levy’s funeral contribution an account was opened, why not this funeral?

  77. If it is true that the late FJT plundered USD8M, it should also be true that his chief advisor at the time, serpent, will have ka USD4M tucked away somewhere, so how about visiting the funeral house and donating ka USD200,000 chabe?

  78. this is inlusive of sitting allowances for presidento, ministers and other plunderers who attend icililo. K4.6 B akalilo. how did they arrive at this

  79. AFTER CHECKING THE POSTING COMMENTS, I MUST SAY # 10 WHATEVER THE NAME HAS CROWN IT ALL. THE SOLUTION IS CONTAINED THEREIN PERIOD. WHO STANDS TO BENEFIT FROM THE ZAMTROP ACCT ANYWAY, REGINA? BUUUU

  80. If you are going to mention the total cost. You might as well give us the budget. Thats what they do at funerals in Zambia.

  81. FTJ a pain even in death..we are still paying on top of what the bloody thieves…stole from treasury…just throw the remains of that serial thief in the ocean next to osama..

  82. Bushe nifunseko, aba kabwalala banababalaaa, olo banabanya okunya?

  83. if we can throw that money without thinking abt the pipo of Zambia then we can manage to fight poverty on our own. other countries r cutting costs, us r creation unessasery costs. on the other hand we r busy asking for help from other countries. ifyabupuba.

  84. Million dollar suites, million dollar shoes, million dollar funeral bally 1 yaba! please ronie and) even if its double tobela na pa malilo ni kudya  muchita over

  85. WHICH ONE OF US IS WELLING TO GIVE A CORRUPTED GOVT. I CAN NEVER PUT A CENT ON THE GOVT SPLENDERING BUDGET. STATE $ FUNEL I GUESS FOR A LACK OF BETTER TIME

  86. Dear friends do judge because you will be judged also. Sooner and very soon each one of us will face God through the LORD Jesus Christ in judgment to explain all that we did in this body. As you judge this man, are sure you will escape the judgment of Jesus Christ? It is not on what we can say about the deeds of Dr Chiluba but on what you have done. Have you considered Jesus Christ in your life as LORD and Savoiur of your life? O my friend stop judging other face God in repentance or you will face Him in judgment and that will be too late.

  87. Can shikapwasha provide a breakdown of the 4.6 billion he is talking about? This must be the most expensive funeral for a former head of state any where in the world. 4.6 billion is equivalent to $1,000,000. Where is all that money going, please???????????????????????? I doubt that even Ronald Reagan’s funeral costed that much!!!!!!! Let’s be realistic here. What is the cost of A COFFIN??? Come on this is ridiculous!! You can’t spend 1million dollars on a funeral of a former head of state. I don’t get it, and I suspect many zambians don’t as well. The government must explain!!

  88. I guess you will have to plan everything within the K2bn  so far raised. Its not necessary to spend so much money on burrying  one person. You could easily spend K50m and spend the rest on improving some  facilities at UTH. Please Shikapwasha Keep us out of it. YOU ARE REALLY MOCKING PEOPLE. 

  89. You are all fools. I think the funeral should cost double that… I need my allowance, sitting allowance and subsistence… that the way we get buy..

  90. You are all fools. I think the funeral should cost double that… I need my allowance, sitting allowance and subsistence… thats the way we get “buy”!!!..

  91. Totally ludicrous, considering many could be saved from death out of that amount, spend that much on the already dead…..

  92. Let MMD get the money where they got money for road projects and free geyzers. As someone has rightly commented, use the Zamtrop money to mitigate against the funeral cost of FTJ. By the way, even if it’s a former head of state can his funeral swallow US$9m? What was the cost of LPM’s funeral cost, do we know? If the MMD were transparent in handling LPM’s funeral costs we would pretty much know how much it was going to cost a tax payer for a former president.

  93. A million dollars to bury someone? Just put him in a duffel bag filled with stones and drop him in Lake Kariba.

  94.  Is this the final nail in the mmd coffin? I think so!!!!! This government stinks and makes a mockery of decent zambian people. Quite a number of people here are complaining well do something about it and vote these villains out of office this year.

  95. #10, In your calculations didn’t you forget one plunderer? I mean the chief handler, planner and ally at the time, the serpent itself. When you consider the kickbacks for the chief planner, there is no change left. So back to square A, the government stills needs donations.

  96. Bushe kwena 4.6billion jus on a funeral!!… But bupuba ubu kwena wen there pipo diein of hunger & lack of medicines in hospitals. Ala mukayapya!

  97. This funeral will separate the human beings from non-humans. Human beings are visiting the funeral house, while non-humans have stayed away. The bishops visited this afternoon. I feel pity for the serpent, his vuvuzela has threatened to decampaign him if he visited. I know that the serpent is agonizing, which was the reason for calling the Central Committee meeting “to pretend” to consult. Otherwise since when did the serpent consult anybody on important matters of his personal party? There is still time though, 5 days, for the serpent to visit the funeral house because the alternative is too ghastly to contemplate as they say. The opportunity will only occur once, once FJT is buried, some people with weak hearts will collapse ku chikonko, mark my word.

  98. Dr Chiluba’s Aide dies

    Former Aide de-camp -ADC to second republican president Dr Frederick Chiluba, Osward Mutapa has died.

    His son, Osward Mutapa Junior confirmed the death to ZNBC News in a telephone interview on Tuesday.

    He says his father collapsed in his moving vehicle around 13 00 hours Tuesday afternoon.

    Mr. Mutapa Junior, a coach by profession, says the family would give a comprehensive statement on the death of his father later.

    Mr Mutapa’s death comes barely three days after the death of Dr. Chiluba.

    He was appointed body guard for Dr Chiluba in 1993.

    Ends/znbc/ 22/06/11 09 53 hours

  99. This is what I am against. Zambians, why do we spend so much money on the dead? Whether it is an ordinary person whho has died or a dignitary, Zambians will go to extreme lengths to conduct a funeral that steals from the living. This is totally unacceptable. In Islamic lands Dr Chiluba would have been in Chingwele already by now. We do not need this extravagance… PLEASE. I beg all those who are in the afternoon of their lives to write living wills that forbid so much money being spent on them. It is selfish not to $1million can buy an MRI scanner for Zambia! $1 million can pay for 1000 teachers!

    • You are so right! The whole nation is on hold because some allegedly acquitted thief died. Chiluba has been ruling the nation all along. It is sad that some of us who knows such people are trick stars wont even have a chance to prove that he really died. No post Morten! Worse off further rip off to be done. Only the government can donate over k 2 billion kwacha for Chiluba’s funeral and not for other projects aimed at supporting the living. Sad, sad, sad.. sad….:((

  100. Really we ‘re not serious in zambia, how can we spend 4.6 billion on one person, what about the millions perishing through out the country because there are NO Medicines. What type of thinking iz this. The Mukudya Mweka Daddy (MMD) government is refusing to think, So lets kick them out. FTJ Kafupi stole from us ordinally zedians again he must steal from us even in death. What a country, banana state. God pliz save us from the shackles of Nyama Soya Bwezani. Ni pamaka chabe Viva PF Viva Hon SATA

  101. Ask Regina where his stolen money account is. Auction off his European suits and shoes. Use that money to bury him. Why should we go spending more money after the person stole from us. Just how much suffering should we endure because of Chiluba. Enough is enough.

  102. And stupid Zambians will donate this money or they will let their taxpayers money been misused on Chiluba again? honestly bane where on earth a funeral would cost k 4.6 billion? He had stolen from Zambians,and Zambians had been paying for all his treatment strips to south Africa, Now Zambians have to pay k4.6 billion for his funeral. really? this is crap.

  103. POVERTY ikali mwe. K4 billion is a mere US 400,000. Do you know how much is gas in Zambia? Do you want poor villagers who vote for MMD should pay from the sell of their goats? You think National milling gets free maize for all those drums of Nsima they are eating at that lodge? And those MMD thugs can’t be alert to keep waiting for Sata, they need litres and litres of Chibuku.
    Can’t governemnt ask for a trillion from Bank of Zambia?

  104. Thats why we shud vote them out! Kubba napamalilo! You are a bunch of thieves. You will definately be made to account for that money wen we come into power. Mwajaila.

  105. Who ever rises to the position of Republican President becomes an Institution throughout his/her life. Govt as well as the Auditor-General’s Office must budget and take stock of the Presidential pension, provision of housing at the end of his/her tenure of Office and, in the event of death, facilitate the provisions of funeral requirements due to a President. No eyebrows were raised nor estimates presented to the press then when Govt spent money on Mwanawasa funeral. Govt need not be drawn to publicise such costs, unless if a sitting Parliament sought for such data. In this regard let Govt provide the essential resources as provided for in the constitution. MHSRIP.

  106. #132 Jury for your information all commoners are in solidality with SATA and all you Plunderers wine and dine with your dead thieve for a million dollar royal funeral. You are so finished with the dead rigging consultant all of you are pissing in you pants why you are panting to have Sata attend your pwando so that you could pull a fast one death at a funeral cause comfusion and shoot our SATA we got you figured out chaps.We the commoners we will attend your Monday ceremony in large numbers not to mourn but to witness the glamour and bid farewell to Zambia’s greatest thieve of all times

  107. #147 This is it, The trouble is that unless you were born this morning you would know that you cannot talk about plunder without implicating Mr Sata. How many times do we have to tell you that Mr Sata’s history is well documented and that there is no way you guys or the Post can wash him clean?

  108. #142, Nostradamus, how did you come up with $400,000? How much is a dollar in kwacha? I think you need some recalculation. Honestly, a dollar is not valued at 11,000 kwacha. That must be new.

  109. Am trying to make heads and tails of why people keep refering to Belvedere Lodge as the FUNEARAL HOME..For starters, Belvedere was never FTJs home.In my mind we should rightly call Belvedere Lodge what it has become and that is a FUNERAL LODGE….

  110. #147 Jury you the one trying to wash chiluba atleast SATA is that plunderer that you have failed to take to court or read out one count so that makes you vibe trush and coke ad bull. So your royal dick why are u trying so hard to make this wife snatcher a holy grail damn dude rant all you want after Monday its the new dawn a Zambia without Kafupi but with SATA deal with it punk. Do you know how you Chiluba neglected his children over Regina’s Jury Please are you one of those brooke *ss pastors that see light in chiluba you must be delusional Jury shame on you chiluba’ *ss licker:)>-

  111. 1. Chiluba was not an ordinary person with all due respect, he was our head of state whether we like it or not.
    2. Chiluba had so many colleagues from cadre to Presidents and including Katumbi.
    3. Chiluba deserves to be burried in a more diginified manner else we shall embarass ourselves, what the west wants of us is to be divided. Refer to their colonial arrangements, read on the struggle of the Nile etc. 4. I never liked Chiluba but am no one to judge him LPM made the worst blunder of doing what he did to him now we dont even respect each other he would have done it better.

  112. Former aide de camp for late FTJ Osward Mutapa Sr died just a few days after his former boss. In african tradition the boss has to be buried together with his trusted servent. Its bad I knew Osward very well and consoled him when FTJ tried to frustrate him to buy a house near UTH robbots. Its sad for the Mutapa family.

  113. HEY PIPO OF ZAMBIA THINK TWICE THIS IS WHAT THIS GOVERNMENT CAN ONLY DO,COZ THEY KNOW THAT WHEN THERE IS DEATH PIPO THEY CANT QUESTION????SO DO THINK BAD ON SATAs COMMENT ASKING WHY CHILUBA WAS NOT TAKEN TO THE HOSPITAL COZ HE NEW WHERE THESE THINGS ARE COMMING FROM.SURE 4.6 BILLION PA ZED NE ZEEEEEEE!!!!!

  114. Sell off some of those houses he bought for his GIRLFRIENDS and use the money for the funeral or better still ask for contributions from relatives and BY should contribute more. I lost a relative, we had to contribute as relatives we didn’t ask for donations from the State. Malabishi yeka yeka.

  115. 2 Billion kwacha is for MMD fuel usages as the precedence to this is the Auditor Generals 2008-09 reports.
    Don’t let the Lazo rip Zambia off anymore….Bury him at Sea!

  116. PIPO OF ZAMBIA EVEN IF THIZ SHIKAPWASHA THING DOING THIS WE DONT KNOW WHERE THIS KAFUPI MAN CHILUBA HAS GO,BUT I KNOW LEVI MWANAWASA IS GONING TO DO JUSTICE FOR THE PIPO OF ZAMBIA SINCE IS THERE EN SEE WHAT WE ARE GOING THROG AS PIPO OF ZAMBIA:**==PIPO I KNOW THIS LEVI HE CAN JUST LET THIS MAN GO LIKE THIS HE HAS EVEN STARTED THE CASE VERY SOON JAGMENT SHALL BE DAN….LEVI MWANAWASA M.I.S.R.I.P EN KAFUPI MY THIS 4.6 BILLION GO WITH YOU AMEN!!!!!

  117. why spend so much when most zambians live on less than a dollar per day, these politians even in poverty they continue to causes poverty

  118. y make a big deal out of it ,bcause if u re the 1 it ok but some1 else it not fine,,,come on guys lets be real!!!!!

  119. #153 Trace Phiri you are a Quake. Dont you know that already our government is disgracing us by asking for money for the funeral? This money is there already and what annoys people is that they want to take advantage of this to finance their campains. Please stop being childish and think. We are talking about $1m to be spent on a funeral.

  120. 4.6 or whatever billion won’t bring him back to life.why not use that money in hospitals to save lives.

    let the family pay for the postmoterm they have the money he store from the poor Zambian.

  121. Honestly speaking BY is not making any sense over the postmortem. Chiluba was not a chief but a public figure, a public asset. Any normal thinking person would want to know what caused FTJ’s sudden death. And who says the results of the postmoterm will be for public consumption anyway? Such traditional and backward thinking as exhibited by B.Y hinges on violation of the rights of the children who wanted to know what could explain their father’s sudden death.

  122. CAN SOMEONE TELL ME WHO OWNS BELVEDELE LODGE.? This is not fair Iam sure of that $1m will go to the owner of the lodge. I hope it is not for James Banda. This is so painful how this Gvt choses to enrich some people over night

  123. #166 The Truth hurts says:it is a beautiful Govt lodge under the ministry of works & supply. Managed by Hostels Board of Management. 

  124. Bonse ap ule panga noise. Instead od being angry with the dead, Tell that GRZ to put up apolicy approved by the pipo on modalities to follow in times like these. Mind you a bad precedence was set up in 2008. On the other hand we still have one former and an incumbernt. What happens then (God forbid) should any one of them pass on? More insults and nonsensical opinions?????? Lets help this spokesman to find his feet and differentiate his left from right.

  125. Awe i have nerver heard of an expensive funeral like FTJ’s. 4.6billion Ronnie are you joking?? Even princess Diane’s funeral didn’t cost that much. Nshaumfwapo.. Can govt find better things to do with the money rather than spending on thinngs that will not bring benefits to Zambians. This is sad and sick. Rest in peace Chiluba..

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