The University of Zambia Student’s Union (UNZASU) has now demanded for the immediate resignation of the Chief Justice.
The university lads have also called for the complete overhaul of the judiciary in Zambia.
UNZASU secretary general Sishekanu Mwauluka said the overhaul of the judiciary should have been done immediately the Patrotic Front government assumed office last year.
“As a union, we would like to call on the PF government and the President Michael Sata in particular to seriously consider a total overhaul of the country’s judiciary,” Mwauluka said.
He said UNZASU was convinced that in its current state, the judiciary left much to be desired.
“The best we can do as citizens to salvage the dire state of affairs is to ensure that His Lordship, the Chief Justice Mr Ernest Sakala vacates office immediately,” he said.
Mwauluka said it was clear that the current judiciary did not inspire Zambians and lacked the people’s confidence.
UNZASU and many other interest groups felt let down by Mr Sata who should have acted on the judiciary immediately he was inaugurated as the fifth President of Zambia.
Mwauluka said Zambia should go emulate Kenyawhere the judiciary was remodelled adding that Zambians voted for change and this change should also be seen in the judiciary.
He emphasised that Mr Sata must ensure that whatever was done in overhauling the judiciary be above board and within the confines of the law.
He said the government should be warned that UNZASU would not support any illegalities in these processes because the student body would not tolerate or support any illegalities and especially that the current UNZASU executive was not for hire.
“We would also like to counsel our learned judges that we will not resist any attempts to use the court system as a political launch pad.
The call from UNZASU in supporting the government has not surprised many people in Zambia.
Mr Mwauluka is among the students who are on record to be on the payroll of the Patrotic Front government and all that he is doing and saying is a direct sponsorship of the state.
The Southern Africa Centre for the Constructive Resolution of Disputes (SACCORD) has said Mwauluka and his fellow students must desist from being used by politicians.
SACCORD says that Mr Mwauluka should not take his personal opinions to represent the majority of the students at the University of Zambia.
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Cant blaim you. LOL.
Sure is this teh calibre of UNZA students these days. Do they have law students at UNZA, who may be wiser than what this UNZASU outburst.
:((
The script is clearly writting…SATA is using the DBZ case as a way of removing the Chief Justice…
Mmembe and Nchito must pay back DBZ
People mark my words, once this tribunal starts its sittings many more of our dear judges will find themselves in trouble for taking monies to pass favourable judgements. The likes of Jones Chinyama and Ernest Sakala will end up in trouble as well. I hope this whole exercise exposes all the many skeletons that these judges have in their closets..Viva tribunal
How does UNZASU get involved in the Judiciary saga? Even if you want to use students this is a sign of desperation on the sign of PF & those advising him.
THE HEALTH SYSTEM IN ZAMBIA NEEDS AN URGENT OVERHAUL AND REFORMS MORE THAN THE JUDIACIARY. PF GOVT. MUST FOCUS ON THE HEALTH SYSTEM FIRST FOR REFORMS!!!
On one hand he calls for the ‘overhaul’ of the judiciary, and on the other he says this should only be done within the confines of the law! Judges are not supposed to be easily removed! There are processes. Its a contradiction and a lack of understanding of the role of the judiciary and the tenure of office of the judges when one talks of an ‘overhaul’ and procedures in the same vein. Judges are not politicians to be removed from office at the whims and caprice of some newly elected executive President. If you push judges into patronage, you end up with dangerous legal anarchy and a situation where the populace is no longer protected in all of lifes endeavours.
Let him reveal all he has. We want courageous people like him no smoke without fire. We need a clean judiciary in zambia,not these batch of corrupt people. VIVA UNZASU
VIVA UNZASU
Are our lawyers and judges really qualified? Why should they fail to have same understanding of our constitution which should be their ‘Bible’? Possibly they all need retraining so that they can understand our constitution. I have never heard of teachers differing on the anwers of any mathematics or history question. Or engineers having different enterpretation of the same technical drawing! IT IS INDEED A SHAME! THE TRAINING AND GRADING OF LAWYERS SHOULD BE REVISITED. if our lawyers cannot understand our constitution, then let us consider hiring foreign judges in all our courts. I rest my case.
You have just made my day! cracking my ribs, mayoooo
Lovemore chikopa is in
These things happen, I work with scientists, economists and engineers every day … I can’t get them to agree on anything. For the energy division I have three classes of scientists, those who really believe in the internal combustion engine, those who believe hybrids are the best and the third group believes we have to have electric cars. For economists, I have Laissez-faire economists – known as free marketers, Mixed market – a combination of government/state controlled economists with some free market activity and Planned economists – the entire system set and determined by the state, fortunately for me, I operate at the micro level, I can override all of them. Engineers worse, I have structural, mechanical, civil, electrical all with a different option, specialization can a curse!!!
meant to say specialization can a curse as much as it is a blessing!!!
This is the most disgraced student’s union of all times. From their rantings, one can tell that they have been bribed with a few peices of silver. Do they really know the procedure of removing justices from office? It is really worrisome to note that such talk is coming from university students. This tells you the claibre of university students we have. No wonder we are still lagging behind in development. How do you expect such *****s to become leaders in future? What type of inspiration will bring to the leadership? NONE. Zambia is doomed if this is how the so called “intellectuals” are going to behave. Please be analytical and show us that you deserve to be called university students. Not this rubbish.
So UNZASU now only has lads!
CJ Sakala has no morals. he should have resigned soon after Sata’s victory. Can you imagine he refused to greet Mr Sata at a public gathering, how can he work comfortably with Mr Sata. Due to his greed he stuck on, as if he hasn’t made enough money and as if he wasn’t past his retirement age. Well now he will be caught up in the web. By now he must be regretting his why has not left.
That my dear is not a ground to resign. Both Sata and Sakala have never said what happened and you can not go to court to testify when against either when they are both adults. So why do you still cry over the same.
Childish reasoning by enthusiastic keen-to-comment novice.PF is less than a year in office and you wanted them to fire all judges and get you students of law at UNZA to run office. Even in cleansing you do not do it overnight. Its here a little and there a little. At the end of the day people find themselves in a new situation.In fact this is even early for PF to undertake this task,but thanks for the effort we are able to see the rottenness even before the sit begins
Isaac Makoffi, I share your concern.
This guy is really wet around the ears or shall we say still in nappies – matebela! What illogical nonsense or verbal poo!
Student Power and Consciusness compromised…in our days at UNZA ,RUPO (RUIN POLICE) should have taken charge. UNZASU is now a bunch of babies with milkteeth.
Personally being a PF supporter I was rather very hurt and disappointed why on earth the President kept Chief Justice Sakala who is on record to have denounced Sata and humiliated him in Church by refusing to shake hands….. why is he still in office beats me if he has not suck up to the Cobra’s eye to me it is one of the sources or links to corrupt practices in our poor justice systems…as bloggers we wrote and said his days will be over I seem not to see that…..Sakala should be retired…VIVA UNZASU
You are truly Zero. Zero Boyz Dull as Usual!
Am also puzzled that Chief Justice Ernest Sakala was allowed to continue up to now.I understand his contact is ending in August but he should have been relieved of his duties immediately the President took oath of office by asking for his retirement letter since some Generals in the Army were retired even if they had contracts from the previous Government.
The Judiciary is corrupt no wonder cases keep on dragging for so many years even small cases which can be disposed off in a week.
Unzasu, we want our 14 billion from mmembe and nchito! That’s all
Are our opposition leaders still sleeping only to wake up during elections or to address petty issues.
These issues need to be dealt with separately in terms of priority. Payment of the DBZ loan. Conflict of interest. Should the cleaning of the judiciary be related to the DBZ loan or shouldn’t this be independent with a well laid approach. Jesus save Zambia, only you know the truth may the truth be exposed.
The UNZASU of today is useless.In our days,we did little talk and a lot of action.Just match to the courts and wait there,even for days,until the Chief Thief resigns.It is as simple as that.As for UNZASU bribery,even in our days there were those fake accusations.Infact,some students were being funded by arnchist to give opposing views against the student body.
The University lads? What happened to the lasses? Or are Lusaka Times reporter male chauvinists who only see males in the nation?
whatever they do. membe Nchito MUST and i repeat MUST PAY 14BN…nothing will divert our attention from this matter. So each time a judge makes a rulling against the state then there is a problemm..my foot!!!
GO TO CLASS! SILLY BOY.
UNZASU IS NOT A POLITICAL PARTY AND YOUR MANDATE ENDS IN THE BOUNDARIES OF GREAT EAST ROAD CAMPUS FOR INTERNAL STUDENT INTERESTS. ATASE!
UNZASU HAS SPOKEN. SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
# 11 Lawyers defend their clents, whether wrong or right as long as the clents put more money in their pockets. Even when they know the case is a lost one baza ku gong’a!
Well said!
Firstly,it must be noted that this union has lost its credibility because it has become more of a political tool as opposed to that which represents UNZA students interests.Nobody listens to these chaps anymore.A lil money into the presidents pockets and he rushes to issue a statement.Mwalipwa ba UNZASU i dont think you can even vivula anymore.
In Zambia, we like being on only one opinion. Whoever say the opposite is labelled names. In this case, if somebody is on the side of Sata, then he is corrupt, without morals and so on. It reminds me of one joke in the 80’s that went like this: one american was telling a russian that” in america, we are free; we can stand at the White House and shout that Regan is a fool and nothing would happen to us”. Then the russian replied” In USSR we also free; we can stand at the Kremlin and shout that Regan is a fool and nothing can happen to us”. the moral is that ALL zambians are acceptable only when they support one opinion.UNASU is now labelled as corrupt. If they had supported the other opinion, they would be heroes.
How do u judge sam1 becoz he didnt shake sataz hand??Very shallow thnkn…Sata shud b tokn abt k14+billion being owed 2 Zed,if he rili cares abt the poor.That unzasu team shud shut up & cam out wit gud reasons if the want 2 heard by masses…
Pay Back The 14billion before cleaning up the judiciary.
And the UNZASU are the people to demand this because………??????? Obviously we heard that some hands exchanged monies somewhere behind closed doors, and some unhappy students outed this a few days ago. The question is why are some students allowing themselves to be used in political wranggles???? We trusted that intellectuals would be impartial for the political fairness of the country but the sheer greed is excalating at alarming levels. What a useless student union !!!! Bamuselela kwa kaba !! Mwemimbuulu mwe !!!!
:-\”[-(:)>-GET A LIFE UNZASU !! WE CAN SEE RIGHT THROUGH YOU !!! LOW LIVES !!!!
iwe Sishekanu Mwauluka
talk on your own coz u r boolicker.ndiye nchito ba pa UNZA u cant even develop anything at skul,bootlicking always.dull STUDUNTS.ALL WAT U DO IS STUDY THEORY,NO BRAIN AT ALL.STUPYET N USELES STUDENTS OF UNZA
Useless boys and girls in nappies..what are talking about nonsese. concetrate on studying ***** fools…you chaps do not understand issues just concetrate on studies and eating your fathers nshima..foolish imature imbeciles….do you know the value of 14billion at stake…unzasu what unzasu silly chaps you do not even contribute to the development of the nation apart from being parasites both to the government and your parents.your friends in the deveolped world are busy inventing new machines and adding value to there nations while you silly baffons are busy sleeping and being liabilities to the nation….silly donkeys…..you should be talkng about research and development and not issue you do not understand….fools.
Mwauluka. The leakages you had in grade twelve are now exposing you.
UNZASU WAWA. ABASH POLITICAL PROSTITUTION ABASH.IWE OBVIOUSLY NAMUMFWA TAPALI ICHIBUMBA
Fred & nchitos shud pay back our money first!! We warned u voters..! Wat a circus pa zed!!! I wish gk was here.. MHSRIP
health, education, judicial system are among issues which need sorting out leave the creation of provinces and districts. the president shldnt bulldoze the judicial system this is a democracy.
VIVA UNZASU!!!!
Abash political intimidation, abash political masturbation, abash political orgasm!!! Viva UNZASU!!!!
I demand for the overhaul of the Executive- be it through TB Joshua or whatever. The Executive has over stayed. By the way why haven’t you also asked for the K14bn on our behalf if you think you are important to this nation.
UNZASU has lost its credibility, and their failure to analyse critical national issues, is a reflection of the low calibre of SOME students that go to UNZA. It seems these young people can no longer maintain the credibility of the old UNZASU. Instead of engaging in critical analysis of national issues they have taken to reacting to newspaper headlines.
At which forum was this agreement reached that students want the Chief Justice to go???
It is a worrying situation where a body which has been so reliable in national revolutions has received public perception that they are a bunch of young people who do not even know where their next meal is going to come from and are ready to be on PF pay roll. You are a disgrace you guys. The newspapers you want to rely on are no longer credible.
These Unzasu students have become PF cadres with the money they are recieving. I feel ashamed of having gone to that university. I think student power is long gone in Zambia and we just have some hungry students thinking with their stomachs! They should search the archives of who Ben Chilufya was, perhaps they can learn something
Jonathan: yenda chabe ku Muchinga Province. All organisations in Zambia have been compromised including UNZASU Its not the same as when you were there in the 1970/80
The chief justice seems to be compromised as well, where has he been all this time to control his judges, he will be caught up in the web as well and found answerable. the Judiciary neeeds to have a complete overhaul. Viva UNZASU
I just wonder this UNZASU thing???? By the way, why are you so interested to this extent of even suggesting names? Mulesebanya ama lecturer benu?? What are they teaching you kanshi?? I think I have to come and teach you how to behave guys. I will be there soon!!
UNZASU the best you can tell your sponsors is to clean those toilets you sleep in,the outdated technology you use in the labs,ask Ukwa to re-channel the money he’s spending on these endless tribunals ,COIs etc to improve the pathetic health system in the country.
No matter what you say judges and lawyers are born from one mother- UNZA,they drink together sentences are passed in pubs over phone calls.This will not change even if Woods became CJ.What you should advocating as useless UNZASU is for university to deliver quality internationally recognised qualifications not those worthless degrees been minted at UNZA.
I agree with this posting. UNZA degrees are not recognised any more. Perhaps the union has its priorities wrong
The on-going judiciary saga is a big challenge to our learned friends, the lawyers to rise to the occasion and help resolve this problem which if not handled carefully will tear the country apart.
The major problem here is that many of those that should help are scared to do so because the president is deeply involved in all of this. It is common knowledge that Zambians have for a long time made serious allegations of corruption against named senior members of the judiciary and now this has reached a boiling point and we are anxiously observing the unfolding drama.
This are back to Chiluba days, UNZASU are at it again talking from their bellies. Poverty is such a sad thing, all one needs is more money in his/her pocket. UNZASU chances are that you did not meet the students so you can give a true students position. We know how it goes out there.
The Zambian Constitution gives immunity to the President of the Republic of Zambia for being sued or being dictated to by the Court of Law.What does this mean in relation to the Judicial Review Judge Chisanga has issued?
The must be forced to resign for failing to interpret the Zambian constitution.
Ma Labish
Who does not know that the judiciary in Zambia is rooten..haa? UNZANSU is right in demanding a complete and effective overhaul of the judiciary in Zambia. The judiciary in its current state is a mockery to Zambians. Let the judges be probed period.
Its not about supporting a particular party…but about objectivity, the judiciary in Zambia needs probing, the guys are too corrupt. VIVA UNZASU.
#53 & 53Truth Hates do you honestly think that the Judiciary would have bn probed had the K14bn case gone the other way? This is harassment and giving kudos to membe and his friend, which is really sad. There have bn times when a call to have the judiciary probed have bn genuine. membe doesn’t want to pay back K14bn and do you think that after this any judge will be able to rule otherwise? So what are you cleansing then?
The over haul should be extended to RED BRICK – ( POLICE HQ)
Isn’t it irony that the Generals from the Army were fired due to being past the retirement age and yet we have Ambassadors and a Chief Justice who are way past the same….just saying!
These useless students who think they are more educated than the judges must shut up. Having your first degree is nothing, you are not yet educated. There are people who are very educated and they dont bubble like UNZA ignorant ***** kids. Its only in Zambia where student (UNZA) think they know everything in the country.
Politics is interesting, here is a group of University students who are learning at an institution, whose infrastructure is failing apart. The buildings of the University are a disaster waiting to happen, yet instead of ensuring there is a revamp and upgrading of the University, here they are talking for their polictical masters. What a shame, is Unzasu now a PF youth wing, are they not supposed to be concerned about the affairs of the students at UNZA and ensuring that the UNZA improves its standards and becomes one of the best Universities in Africa. I know some here will say they have a right to talk about anything that happens in Zambia, i agree, but why shoot so far when they are shooting from the pit which should be their first target?
These UNZA students should stop politicking and concentrate on getting their degrees. Why do 3 year degrees take 7 years for UNZA students? When the same failures graduate into politics, you see the same attitude where they mistake talking for doing. Just go back to your books, you little dolt!
@tekton you observations are right unza should have being lobbying government to repair thot broken toilets they unza squates on which are in aterrible state and not waste time on issues they do not understand and not in there control. the unzasu of nowadays is as useless as the delapited buildings the students are being subjected to when attending lectures.
UNZASU might have been compromised, but there is a point in what the young is saying,why keep Sakala Chikala as a Chief Justice the man who humiliated Cobra in the bulging eye of the catholic congregation.He treated Sata as if he was from toilet suffering from colera.We have been calling on Sata to appoint a judiciary Commission to look into the the complaints which the members of the public have been raising.Sakala cannot run away when the people are saying our judiciary is corrupt,Yes corrupt they are and this includes Sakala,so he should be shown the exit.
Your Cobra humiliated himself because of uncivilized conduct.
When was this nkongole taken out? Instead of trying to pay back the money, Membe and his cohort were busy re-branding Sata as a man of action and painting RB as the devil incarnate who defiles young children! Surely it would have been less costly for the country if the guys had tried to pay back the money? All the time and energy we collectively have wasted on this non-issue could have been expended on issues and activities that will actually bring about a better standard of living for the majority of Zambians still wallowing in poverty and have no access whatsoever to any form of credit. By the way, why is Ukwa so quiet – has judge Chisanga’s judgement put him on bed rest again?
Zambians do expect UNZASU to speak against the Govt.not at all.Judges need accountability.Viva UNZASU
MOST OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE AGAINST THE TRIBUNAL ARE BENEFECIARIES OF CORRUPT PROCEEDS.NOW THEY HAVE SEEN THAT ITS COMING TO AN END THATS WHY THEY ARE PANICKING. ULUFYENGO LWACHILAMO KUMULANDU WABA POMPWE MUNSHIBILA NSALA AIBA NINSALA NGABALILEKA BUKABWALALA KALE
Shake shake abakola bafana,its clearly shows he has no understanding of what he is talking about.
VIZA UNZASU, WHEN I WAS AT UNZA, UNZASU WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN GUIDING THE NATION IN A LOT OF NATIONAL ISSUES. IAM HAPPY THE SPIRIT OF UNZASU IS COMING BACK. YOU COMMENT IS VERY VALID. DONT MIND WHATEVER OTHERS THINK ; BUT COMMENT IN THE INTEREST OF THE NATION.
:(( yaba
Can somebosy tell me what wrong CJ sakala has done? refusing to shake hands? Shouldn’t UNZASU be campaigning for the overhaul of the UNiversity education system instead of dubbing in these matters they little know of?
I dont know why those who are in the pay of shushushus bother to blog at all as it is very easy to spot them. Another case of govt wasting tax-payers money as the people they have paid to bombard us with their propaganda are simply not up to the job.
Sakala is the epitome of all the stinking rot that characterises our judiciary today and any change in this arm of government has to first come with the removal of this corrupt relic from the past.
personally i sometimes question the morallity of the legal profession in some instances where the lawyer asks the criminal to tell the truth as to whether he did it or not so that he or she can be defended well and the criminal confesses to having committed the crime. the lawyer using his legal jagon presents to the judge a sweet story potraying that his client is innocent. the the judge works on the facts presented to court and aquits a criminal. After this the lawyer and the criminal hold a party to celebrate the aquittal. Is this defending justice or miscarriage of justice. only God is the true Judge some lawyer are quack lawyers and are just in business interested in turn over.
IWE # 68, Chilufya Kaputu in Germany, watch yourself! Government does not need to pay people to blog! If it needed to do so all the first 20 points would be in support so as to intimidate the rest. All of us who blog here do so at will and during free time! The judiciary was infected by the political corruption of the executive during the MMD regime, especially under Chiluba & Rupiahs’ tutelage. They were protected and even paid to compromise certain rulings. The acquittal of Chiluba was being discussed by Rupiah @ Mulungushi University before the judge even passed the judgement. Rupiah knew, how? The judiciary commission has almost become impotent, the executive at this point decided to do its’ duty to the nation by setting up a tribunal to investigate. What have we seen? SUMMERSUALTS!
I thought UNZASU has got the welfare of its students as priority. Since UNZA is in such a deplorable mess, why dont they spend their energies on UNZA? Being a vuvuzela to anything that PF does will not help. It is high time you engaged PF government to improve UNZA so that we may take our children there.
What do others think?
In my days the students would have ‘sorted’ out mwauluka, i am quite surprised they are all silent on this matter and letting this chap misrepresent them…………have the monks all lost their balls/?really?
yes you are right; he must do something of this, the judiciary is for zambia to get law done
Imwe bana basukulu kupusa mufuna kuchosesa nchito batate banu, that is why you children are always in trouble muletekanya abo nibawiso ukutupa. Ati UNZASU leaders just keep to your studies that is why you keep failing your examinations you concetrate on wrong things sha.
Okay, the point that our country is in deep crisis on all major fronts is clear. Will the real people of God, called by His name now humble themselves, seek God’s face,pray and turn from their wicked ? God will hear from heaven forgive our sins and heal our land.
We take it for granted that peoples thinking is of a “sound” nature, at least for those that have attained a reasonable level of education. However, from the various responses to articles on the various news sites one is able to tell that is far from the case. What I see is a nation and minds that are skewed by envy and jealousy of success to a point that a UNZASU and other learnaed can issue such a nonsensical statement. we wrongly assume that everyone who is successful must be corrupt (which is wrong and promotes corruption). I can, with certainty, claim that no one, accusing the Judicary of worrying levels of corruption, has any reliable evidence of corruption at play. It’s all assumptions and fabricated stories which should not be a basis to “Judge” others as unfit for office.
#78 Mundiam so the judiciary is corrupt? What about the DPP and Membe? How did they get the loan in the first place? Why have they not paid us the taxes they collected when they run Zambian Airways? Where was the blueprint on figting corruption in the judiciary before the DBZ nkongole was called and why is it that it is only in regards to the DBZ saga are the judges accused? Surely it they were as corrupt as you allege other cases should have been taken into consideration? Judges may well be corrupt but the fact remains that Membe and the DPP owe the Zambian tax payer billions of kwacha and I see no reason why they should not be liable to honour their debts.
14 billion from mmembe and nchito! 14 billion from mmembe and nchito14 billion from mmembe and nchito! ! 14 billion from mm14 billion from mmembe and nchito! embe and nchito! 14 billion from mmembe and nchito! 14 billion from mm14 billion from mmembe and nchito! embe and nchito! 14 billion from mmembe and nchito14 billion from mmembe and nchito! ! 14 billion from mmembe and nchito! 14 billion from mmembe14 billion from mmembe and nchito! and nchito! 14 billion from mmembe and nchito! 14 billion from mmembe and nchito! 14 billion from mmembe and nchito! 14 billion from mmembe and nchito!
Yes . Unzasu, we want our 14 billion from mmembe and nchito! That’s all.Cant you see?
Evelyn hone union or even ZCAS Union could have spoken sense.Not those *****ic utterances coming from a lad lost from barotseland in the name of UNZASU.
Next we are overhauling and regrading zambian universities based on such Idotic utterances as evidence of a side view of low IQ at UNZA.
mundiaM@72:
A lesson for you in Law: Judges determine cases based only on what is presented to them during the case hearing and nothing else. So were you see cases that you (lay person after reading in post) firmly believe guilt, the forces that influence the outcome are more likely to be pusher court than they are in a Judge. Especially the executive and Lawyers. If a Lawyer does not present evidence, for whatever reason, the Judge cannot argue with that even if he knew that there should be “a piece of material evidence”. It is not his role. He can influences outcomes by what he allows as evidence but that is in criminal cases and there has to be good and reasons. Therefore don’t make firm assertions that the “Judges were protected and even paid to compromise certain rulings”…
@ # 79 Chilufya Kaputu, Mmembe himself in his own paper The Post of Tuesday the 15 May, stated clearly that Mutembo, Zambian Airways & JNC are still liable for the ZmK14 billion ruling by Judge Mutuna. This matter cannot be handled by the tribunal but by the competent courts through an appeal. The tribunal will only investigate the behaviour of the judges as per the code of conduct for high court & supreme court judges of Zambia. Now, What is mind boggling for anyone with some understanding of the law is why the judges are fighting the setting up of a tribunal to invetstigate their professional conduct? If they were that clean, would they be asking to be retired and obtaining an injunction against a tribunal constituted to clear their names? It is imperative to answer these questions #79!
Please let us not turn these children into homesexuals. Recently, we were told that someone bought a lot of computers and here we are now debating with our children who are posting insults and now have gone to bed with their own kind. I hope their relationship with crooks does not go into penetrative intercourse.
@ #11 Isaac Makoffi: You’re not a learned person (in law), so stopped exhibiting shallow igonrance on how the Constitution worldwide is interpreted by the courts. You can’t equate the school of law to maths. For your info, courts are there to interpret the law (the constitution included). This means that law is dynamic and it’s understanding is case by case though there there are law reports and precedent cases to refer to when dealing with new cases. This is wy the professional in this career are called learned colleagues or people.
This puppy Mwauluka is being used by Mwembe. Read the Post editorial comment and you will notice the similarity in the content and diction of the two articles….Mwembe is so desperate to confuse and hypotinise everybody that he has lost all the jaunalistic morals and principles. This satanist will be exposed sooner and very very soon
University students in Zambia think they are very important. Why should UNZASU’s opinion about our Chief Justice matter? Stop reporting about them you make them big headed.
University students in Zambia think they are very important. Why should UNZASU’s opinion about our Chief Justice matter? Stop reporting about them you make them pig headed.
Lusakatimes, post my comment, ala!
@ # 82 It’s a worry, you state & I quote “…the forces that influence the outcome are more likely to be pusher court than they are in a Judge. Especially the executive and Lawyers.”
This statement clearly indicates that, the executive can easily influence the outcome of a court case if the judge handling the case is amiable to being corrupted. This then leaves a big question begging, just because the executive was accommodated by the judge for a favourable outcome, should we not also question the judges moral conduct? These are the questions the tribunal should address! The executive that corrupted the judges were already punished by society through an unfavourable election outcome. If more eveidence is exposed during the tribunal, prosecutions can also follow. What do think # 82?
The CJ personally and his corrupt judiciary reached their sale by date on 20 September 2012! They have already started putrification. They should all resign to enjoy the fruits of their corrupt labours that include fat accounts, that cannot be exhauset during the remainder of their natural lives even if they spent at the rate of K1 million per day, guest houses, businesses, etc.
@ 11 Ba Isaac: I work with scientists, economists and engineers every day … I can’t get them to agree on anything. For the energy division I have three classes of scientists, those who really believe in the internal combustion engine, those who believe hybrids are the best and the third group believes we have to have electric cars. For economists, I have Laissez-faire economists – known as free marketers, Mixed market – a combination of government/state controlled economists with some free market activity and Planned economists – the entire system set and determined by the state, fortunately for me, I operate at the micro level, I can override all of them. Engineers worse, I have structural, mechanical, civil, electrical all with a different option, specialization can a curse!!!
meant to say specialization can a curse as much as it is a blessing!!!
In short not all lawyers have the same psyche as well as capacity, some of them are in a wrong profession and/or just happen to operate in areas of their least strength. Besides, law is more of an art than a science that’s why their school is under Humanities & Social Sciences at UNZA – it is hard to get them to agree on a single point. Some are really good at litigation and thus can be prosecutors, other are good at constitutional law and thus can arbitrate, others can handle civil cases while other are wired for criminal law and in there are other forms and traits judges are appointed from them all. The appointing authority needs to have a better understanding before one is put on the bench otherwise you end up with convivial such as the current state of affairs … I rest my case.
Experts in any profession always disagree. Look at the USA Supreme court judges, they always do not agree when deliberating cases. They are human beings with different values, which influence the way they interpret laws and the constitution. That’s why cases are subjected to votes.
I give credits to UNZASU yes let the KING COBRA clear the way so that what is behind can pass freely without interference .the person speaking tomorrow may held the highest office and what he is advocating is the clear picture of what is on the ground, so if Chief Justice is creating a roadblock to King Cobra let him resign for the interest of Zambian people .
UNZA now boasts of graduate illiterates.
Bola panshi….we have just started the sweeping process ni one by one we know everything and we are taking them,engaging them tactifully ni clean game bale chapwa.Nangu mwaya out of the country for months,nipanono panono umulandu taubola the will catch up with you.Home is home bane…..tili pambuyo ya ba Sata..go Sata go.Whatever you say we are sweeping and steadly clossing up..I at one time baba shouting,,,chin up….close up.Ni matako mpela lubilo.
Ati unzasu atase,shut up!u don’t understand the magnitude of wat u saying.the fact that this judiciary has proved it cannot be pushed by executive power n is independent is a good thing.ubukopo
Tell him to study and benefit the nation through his knowledge. We need learned people to be imparting knowledge to people and pray to god that he should guide us and guide our leaders.
What has the CJ got to do with students at UNZA, this student’s priorities are misplaced. People are paid to say all sorts of things in support of wrong things. These are battles of GIANTS, where elephants are fighting is the grass that suffers. Soon UNZA may not get even the little funding they are getting now, because pathetic leadership.
Who takes UNZASU seriously these days? UNZASU of these days is just a bunch of children of cadres barking out their parents’ orders.
The fact is that the Zambian judiciary is corrupt to the bones. All Zambian were complaining but one wonders what has changed now … has the Judiciary become good now than it were before the PF? The answer is a catigorical no. Please let the Judiciarybe overhualed without any impendiments. We want a clean judiciay than the prank we have currently.
Ukwa manipulating students instead of giving them good sanitation, stop politicking you UNZASU, you are on record that you go to arcades to answer calls of nature due poor sanitation at your institution, merger BC, poor accommodation, poor salaries for your lecturers, so your fellow students gave you the mandate to fight for these these, not playing politics after being abused by politicians at the expense of problems at UNZA, foolish chaps…….
UNZASU SHOULD DEMAND FROM PF GOVERNMENT TO OVERHAUL THE SLEEPING FACILITIES AT UNZA.THEIR LIBRARY REQUIRES OVERHAULING.EQUALLY SO ARE THE CONDITIONS OF BOTH THE GENERAL WORKFORCE AND ACCADEMICS.
WHY SHOULD UNZASU PREOCCUPY THEMSELVES WITH ISSUES THAT ARE FAR FROM THEIR COMPREHENSION WHILE LEAVING ISSUES IN THEIR BACKYARD?
The problem is that Zambia will always be “ANIMAL FARM”
102, the judiciary may need overhauling but by who? Certainly not by people harbouring vested interests and don’t want to pay back straight forward K14billion+ debts to poor, poverty stricken, donor dependent Zambian tax payers, the same people whose interests they claim to represent!!!!
First pay back the K14billion plus, then we can talk about overhauling the judiciary. If we overhaul the judiciary before the debt is repaid, then we can forget about the money until 2016. By the way just what is the issue her: Is it that some people don’t want to pay back the debt to poor people, or Is it that the judges have refused to be bribed by the debtors to write off the debt, or Is it that the DBZ has bribed the judges to make a ruling favourable to the bank? I fail to see the corruption of the judges if you can’t show me that they have been corrupted either by the debtors or by DBZ. This is what the learned men in UNZASU are supposed to be guiding us the illiterates.
107– I think there is alot of sence in what you have said because i really don’t understand why one would borrow money from someone and then instead of paying back the due debt, you start fighting the one who gave you that money. Why can’t these guys pay back the 14 billion and then start pushing for judicial reforms?? If your borrow, you have to pay back why are they resisting to pay back that loan?? Iam really confused about this loan thing!!!
why not call for the resignation of the cause of this noise?