TIZ supports the Police arrest of Nevers Mumba, Ronnie Shikapwasha and others, arrests are not politically motivated

1. In as much as we have read all the corrupt actions that the duo might have done but it leaves as to wander whether the ones in current government positions like the recent ones were we so someone refusing to be interviewed by ANTI CORRUPTION COMMISSION just because they are at the center of the LAW. so in as much as they are fighting corruption and making arrests, we ask that we be fair in the fight and that way even though the currently arrested plead that their arrest is politically motivated, we shall not comment but just smile at them………………………….

   • Do you know what setting a precedent means? It means setting an example. If these guys who are in power now behave like those guys behaved when they were in power, the same thing that happens to the former ruling party thieves will be the same thing taht will happen to Kabimba when they leave office. Just because someone is stealing today does not mean we should let the old thieves go. It only means that even this new thief, when his turn comes, we will sort him out. For now, let us sort out those who are now available for trial. They thought they could do whatever they wanted with impunity. It was not just the PF party and government who wanted these people punished. It was also the masses, the people of Zambia. When we went to beat William Banda and company, that was not on PF orders

   • So, every time a chap is arrested and cites political harassment, they are saying that we Zambians are stu.pid and can not think for ourselves. Myself I personally wanted Chanda Chimba, Rommie and RB among others to face charges. This is not PF being politically motivated. This is me, a citizen, and many others like me, wanting some justice for the plunder of my resources, and when the PF government does this, I feel they are representing us, the people, the majority.

   • @The Equalizer, that logic is flawed. Why should we wait until someone leaves government before we can get them prosecuted? You know who limited our investigative wings are and yet you expect them to work on old cases. I say, if we are going to be fair, let us not talk about precedent and look at Mwanawasa who got his own ministers prosecuted whilst they were in the ruling party.

     If TIZ was to be fair and credible, they would have noted that several misdeeds by those in PF are being ignored by the Joint Task Force, ZP and ACC. Let us be fair. Also, if you look at the charges that these people are being charged with, they are flimsy. How did you expect Ronnie Shikapwasha to behave when the whole government was behind him? You might as well charge RB for instructing him. And Nevers’…

   • I also do not think it is right to charge that Chanda Chimba III was defamatory. Why doesn’t Sata sue him in his personal capacity so that we have a fairer trial?

   • @ The Equalizer, in as much as I agree with you with the issue of setting of precedents, I also concur with most of Sebana Wikute’s analyses. I mean why wait until suspected plunderers leave office before we take action. Please bear in mind that this is a matter of being “Pro-active.” Remember it’s easier to “destroy’ than to “build” as the former only takes a short time while the latter can take a long long time. For example FTJ’s Government only took a short time to destroy our economy and 20 years later, Zambia is still struggling economically.
     So please let our law enforcers be professional and not selective in how they handle cases of corruption. The law should be equal for everyone i.e. whether one belongs to the ruling party or opposition.

   • the acc is not a small public toilet that serves one person at a time. let them open up the cases for masebo, kabimba, Chikwanda( Chikanda), masumba, etc.Why just mumba and shiks…

   • Very true ba Brauser

2. BROWER SAYS:
   In as much as we have read all the corrupt actions that the duo might have done but it leaves as to wander whether the ones in current government positions like the recent ones were we so someone refusing to be interviewed by ANTI CORRUPTION COMMISSION just because they are at the center of the LAW. so in as much as they are fighting corruption and making arrests, we ask that we be fair in the fight and that way even though the currently arrested plead that their arrest is politically motivated, we shall not comment but just smile at them………………………….
   Thanks

3. Browser says

   Level Play Field.
   In as much as we have read all the corrupt actions that the duo might have done but it leaves as to wander whether the ones in current government positions like the recent ones were we so someone refusing to be interviewed by ANTI CORRUPTION COMMISSION just because they are at the center of the LAW. so in as much as they are fighting corruption and making arrests, we ask that we be fair in the fight and that way even though the currently arrested plead that their arrest is politically motivated, we shall not comment but just smile at them………………………….

4. …and the so called minister of justice? Well I guess and pray his time will come and come soon, right?

5. But you Goodwell Lungu if you are sincere in what you are saying why is this your govt. you support not following up the case of Mmembe 14bn, Matani not respecting a supreme court injunction over Zambezi, Kabimba and others and also all other cases by former MMD officials who have crossed over to PF? People will respect you as a man of integrity together with your organisation if you are not biased in your line of thinking otherwise what will not make us believe what the watchdog tells us that you a PF comprised org.

6. Transparency International Zambia {TIZ} has now turned into Opaque International Zambia {OIZ). why are they silent on the Portland cement saga, mmembe & ncito 14billion, kapoko aquital, state resources misuse on children over the age of 21 at statehouse, winter kabimba’s monkey behavour at the ACC offices….the list is endless

7. When one winter refused to the questioned at ACC where was this dull TIZ guy? When the President was intimadating ACC over winter where was your voice you rogue? When that alcoholic PF councillor accumulated a huge bill over dopes in Ethopia,when PF councillors are busy selling land in Northmead,when the Country is having unprecedented bye elections in 400 days where is this styopet TIZ? when people are being deportated without geniune reasons where are you suckers?

8. Mr Gudwel Lungu, u ar a learned man & therefore we expect u 2 read betwin the lines, cant u see that these arrest ar political, why isnt the Police arresting Nchito & Membe 4 non payment of 14 Billion they owe DBZ, also who is winta stil going scotfree & he even has the guts to humiliate & intimidate the ACC, Mr Lungu yo judgement is bias. God bless Zambia.

9. Stubborn Lungu and TIZ is now irrelevant to governance process of our country. I miss vibrant TIZ under late Prof Chanda’s leadership

10. Its TIZ still affiliated to Transparency International? I think TI should be told how its name has been brought to absolute shame and ridicule by this Lungu chap and his fellow job seekers. What a shame. No intellect and no analysis of issues.

11. yangu!ba TIZ u need to take a few seats on the side walk for this one…at times silence is golden..please anyone can see that these arrests are politically motivated _its NOT ROCKET SCIENCE!!anyway actually dont keep quiet TIZ change ur leadership…u need to be impartial-u are one of the important institutions that are charged with ensuring that theres gud governance in zambia..thru transparency and accountability!!so dont just give ur opinions just to please the powers that be…be sober be impartial be critical..and remember ur duty to us the zambian citizens…anyway thats my opinion

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    MATHANI MATHANI MATHANI MATHANI MATHANI MATHANI MATHANI MATHANIIIIIII
    KABIMBA KABIMBA KABIMBA KABIMBA KABIMBA KABIMBA KABIMBAAAAAAAA
    MASUMBA MASUMBA MASUMBA MASUMBA MASUMBA MASUMBA MASUMBAAAAAAA

    TIZ SERIOUS

13. some bloggers here shared the spoils from these arrested and no wonder they see it as political arrests otherwise they wouldn’t politicize the matter. the time these guys were abusing their power , even went to the extent of removing the abuse of office clause from the constitution while you guys were having fun. receiving monies to buy cars and build houses while we couldn’t even watch our national broadcaster ZNBC. its time for them to answer and there is nothing you can do. otherwise you will equally be followed and pay for your sins.

    • Ba Bongwe! The abuse of office offence is and was already in the penal code and that is why some people are being prosecuted for abuse of office under the penal code for offences committed before the amendment in ACC Act. The inclusion of the clause in the ACC Act is just a repetition. Sir are you talking about following any one who expresses a contrary view. Now I am really concerned for my country. If it is meant to intimidate Zambians then you are barking up the wrong tree.

14. WHY DOES’NT THE SO CALLED TASK FORCE TAKE ACTION WHEN THESE PEOPLE ARE STILL IN OFFICE LIKE THE CASE OF KABIMBA, GBM AND NOW MASEBO. A COMMISSION OF INQUIRY WAS SET FOR DORA SILIYA WHY SHE WAS STILL MINISTER, BUT NOW ITS LIKE MINISTERS ARE UNTOUCHABLES WHEN IN OFFICE .

    WHEN PURSUING THEM AFTER 2016, THEN THEY ALSO START CRYING THAT ITS POLITICAL HARASSMENT. WE ARE TIED OF HEARING THAT THEY ARE COMMITTED TO FIGHTING CORRUPTION BUT WHAT IS HAPPENING ON THE GROUND IS EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE. LET THE PROB CONTINUE TO CURRENT MINISTERS AND OFFICIALS.

15. Others with stollen money have engaged international lawyers that have taken recourse to denouncing Zambian’ leadeship instead of fighting the cases they were engaged for. That how corruption can do. Corrupt people must be dealt with today and tomorrow. We just have to adopt a norm of fighting corruption. To many folks the fight against corruption is a song being sang and danced by others whilst they themselves look away. This fight should be one of our values. Just like we condemn murder and other crimes, We must not tolerate corruption. Corruption is like drugs, once in it you become addicted, coming out is a problem. Solution is fight it, make culprits pay back or serve prison sentences for their reformation.

16. Thumbs UP TIZ but show consistency, we have not heard you comment on ZAWA, ZESCO poles saga, Trafigura oil Deal. What equality before the law are you referring to?
    Wake up TIZ if you want to continue to be relevant.

17. He has since advised citizens that calls for sympathy have their potential to dilute the fight against corruption and create escape routes for the current government officials who may conduct themselves in a similar manner if wrong precedents are set of deliberately ignoring past alleged criminal activities on account of one leaving office.

18. I am liking it. TIZ you are spot on guys. These thieves must be punished severely. No mercy on them. They were stealing our tax money with impunity..shame on Shikapwasha.

    Peace and Prosperit to Mother Zambia.

19. Ka LUNGU whom do think does not know that u are on payroll ya SATA you have been quiet all this time with PF corruption allegation going around just now there is an issue of MASEBO cancelling tenders not following procedures just the same like the case of DORA SILIYA which u ka LUNGU petitioned President BANDA then to appoint Tribunal which Banda did and even suspended DORA from her ministerial job until the case was concluded, but now with all these PF Ministers with allegation of corruption, and straight corruption issues for that matter you TIZ you have been quiet, so what is so special that now u can start making stupid noise on silly cases like the one on NEVERS MUMBA, even on CHANDA CHIMBA who told and warned the nation on the character of SATA which is now coming out to be true.

20. TIZ has to be bold enough to state definitively cases of current serving PF members who need to be prosecuted by ACC. These people are publicly known, bloggers have named them. TIZ to simply state PF is also warned in these Police arrests of all corrupt allegations is not enough. Sata has blocked his people to be investigated by ACC- where is TIZ in this.

21. Muzungu anikonde, ni so chabe ise vaku m’mawa. Tilibe nansoni ta!

22. Nevers Mumba is my partner in crime

23. TIZ lungu is useless. yo role is to remind govt what it is not doing like arresting kabimba. not patting them on the back. this is their duty to arrest thieves. in zambia ngos have became branches of the pf. thanks to the dictator MBR.

24. It is really sad to learn of what is happening in Zambia. We have been in this situation for the last 20 yrs – we need development and work ethics from our leaders. There is too much talking in the nation and yet most people are struggling. I am really sad about this thinking of most Zambians with food and sustainable accommodation. ….. We need to do something…

25. FAILURE to report corruption is an offence why did winter fail to report that oil company which wanted to bribe him pls let us be sincere dear lord help us.

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