Two opposition members of parliament, UPND’s Cornelius Mweetwa and MMD’s Michael Kaingu, have challenged the Republican President Mr. Michael Sata to dissolve parliament if he so wishes because the constitution will be the only topic debated in the house.
Speaking on Zambia Blog Talk Radio, a Diaspora Forum, MP Cornelius Mweetwa stressed that the opposition is united in having the question of the constitution resolved before 2016. “And this means ordinary business in the house has to come to a stand still.”
Speaking on the same forum MP Michael Kaingu pointed out that it was not the intention of the opposition MPs to disrupt proceedings but, “these are extraordinary circumstances which require extraordinary actions.”
Last week Opposition Members of Parliament forced Speaker of the National Assembly Patrick Matibini to prematurely suspend proceedings of the house before subsequently adjourning the sitting of the house.
This followed the Speaker’s decision to dismiss Mazabuka Member of Parliament Garry Nkombo’s follow up debate on Justice Minister Wynter Kabimba’s ministerial statement on the update with regards constitution making process.
In his ministerial statement to parliament Justice Minister had said that one of the reasons leading to the delay in the handover of the report was the attempt at one point by the Constitution Technical Committee to hand him the report instead of the Republican President, who was the appointing authority.
But Mazabuka MP Garry Nkombo rose on a point of clarification from the Justice Minister Kabimba because the answer given was basically the same as before hence there was nothing new he was talking about.
Nkombo said the whole statement by Kabimba was just hollow and did not provide a clear answer.But Matibini ruled that Mr. Nkombo had not asked anything hence he proceeded to other matters on the floor of the house.
During the time for question and oral answers from opposition MPs to government, each time the Speaker called an opposition MP, they all shouted “constitution”.
The opposition MPs continued shouting “constitution” forcing Speaker Matibini to abruptly adjourning accusing the opposition of not being ready for business
The MPs constantly obstructed the deliberations the next day by insisting that it was inappropriate to continue proceedings without attending to issues of the Constitution process.
PF government MUST give the pipo what they want, NOT bu CHIMBU MUSHOLOLWA behavour on this matter.
I think the president made a statement along the lines of the PF being useless
Well if this ‘dare’ by the opposition is anything to go by:
They are useless too.
Concentrate on bringing development in your elected villages, you empty heads, you were voted to stick to the knitting and stay away from such utterance.
They are all useless
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More pressure please!!!!!!!!!!!
WE NEED THE NEW CONSTITUTION PLEASE OR ELSE ????????????
Wina azanya ka
https://www.zambianwatchdog.com/flash-back-new-constitution-before-2011-but-levy-not-listening-because-he-is-medically-impaired-sata/
What has changed? And who is medically impaired now?
By George Chellah and Speedwell Mupuchi
Post Newspaper: Saturday March 10, 2007
PATRIOTIC Front (PF) president Michael Sata has vowed that a new Republican constitution would be in place before 2011 whether President Levy Mwanawasa likes it or not. And Sata said President Mwanawasa should deal with local government and housing minister Sylvia Masebo’s thuggish conduct if he wants the PF councils countrywide to operate. And UPND president Hakainde Hichilema said Zambians were entitled to engage in politicking if the constitution they so desired was delayed.
Reacting to President Mwanawasa’s statement that he had been denied a chance to write a new constitution and that some people were preoccupied with demonstrations against the government, Sata said PF would continue to mount…
MPs have all the support from all well meaning Zambians………this document belongs to u, u and u plus me……..
Since when did you start supporting UPND?
UPND are untested, you are getting carried away sir.
They are not people;s choice, seriously give up.
Judge the PF in 2016, they have just got started .
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Mushota your Medulla Oblangat is full of trash.Your comments are very hollow to comprehend and lack substance.
When PF were in opposition and were challenging MMD,Were they tested?
You don’t look at whther they are tested or not but at what policies they are offering.
Look at the calibre of the UPND MP,s anf compare them to PF.
Even their president once called them useless and we are being ruled by a useless bunch of ministers!
*Mushota*
By George Chellah and Speedwell Mupuchi
Post Newspaper: Saturday March 10, 2007
PATRIOTIC Front (PF) president Michael Sata has vowed that a new Republican constitution would be in place before 2011 whether President Levy Mwanawasa likes it or not. And Sata said President Mwanawasa should deal with local government and housing minister Sylvia Masebo’s thuggish conduct if he wants the PF councils countrywide to operate. And UPND president Hakainde Hichilema said Zambians were entitled to engage in politicking if the constitution they so desired was delayed.
Reacting to President Mwanawasa’s statement that he had been denied a chance to write a new constitution and that some people were preoccupied with demonstrations against the government, Sata said PF would…
Mushota….
I have never countered your comments before. I am sorry to have to do so now.
Well, if at all you are indeed studying for a higher degree as I seem to have gathered from previous comments by you, then please consider my comment below as a very fair one. Your comment above is very feeble and nimble. The law of meeting demands that an agenda item is exhausted or deferred to the next meeting and not just abandoned or ignored. The members of the meeting, and where necessary assisted by the Secretar(y)(iat) can demand that the chairman (Speaker in this case) allows the agenda item to be exhausted or deferred collectively. This seems not to have happened in parliament. The speak wanted to run rough shod over the opposition MPs. Plse help the masses who paid 4 our education.
constitution is a critical national issue. GRZ should provide a proper road map and framework for the adoption of the draft constitution. we will not let sata or any one to overtake this from the Zambians. we have spent so much and sacrificed so much; we are willing to die!!!
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Says someone who doesn’t even live in Zambia.
Who is we Mr Bulaya?
Stop following the wind, all these foolhardy by people that are lazy and can not find jobs are both delsuional and misguided.
Give PF a chance Mr Bulaya, they will come good with time.
For now get yourself a decent job and further your limited knowledge
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They will sir, give them time. The constitution will come.
James 5:7
Be patient, therefore, brothers, until the coming of the Lord. See how the farmer waits for the precious fruit of the earth, being patient about it, until it receives the early and the late rains.
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By George Chellah and Speedwell Mupuchi
Post Newspaper: Saturday March 10, 2007
PATRIOTIC Front (PF) president Michael Sata has vowed that a new Republican constitution would be in place before 2011 whether President Levy Mwanawasa likes it or not. And Sata said President Mwanawasa should deal with local government and housing minister Sylvia Masebo’s thuggish conduct if he wants the PF councils countrywide to operate. And UPND president Hakainde Hichilema said Zambians were entitled to engage in politicking if the constitution they so desired was delayed.
Reacting to President Mwanawasa’s statement that he had been denied a chance to write a new constitution and that some people were preoccupied with demonstrations against the government, Sata said PF would continue to mount…
@skeleton are you an historian?
if he dissolves parliament now and elections ar held under the current constitution dont think u cn win. sata can stl win. all that is needed is to come up with a solution and nt that. Besides, as a country we don’t need to keep on wasting money on buy elctions anymore.
Can you say all what you said in English please?
I do not know what you are saying.
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How many ‘constitutions’ have we had since independence and why?
Correct me if I am wrong, you are saying we do not need a constitution?
If so, then I agree with you.
This talk about the constitution in as much as it is important is both unwarranted, there are more pressing issues than the talk of it.
Despite, my credible reasoning there are people who think otherwise without a prudent reason.
We need job creation, Safety, Universities, Schools, etc which the PF are doing unless you are blind.
We do not need constitution.
A need or want is different here and the constitution should not be part of it
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Kaingu should be last person to talk about the constitution.They are the same people who failed us about the same issue..Hypocrites.
Maria Zed was married to naleta multipati for 20 years. But it was not a happy marriage. Chanda wabufi had been courting surrepitously Maria for 10 years promising her heaven on earth within 90 days if she divorced her husband whom he slandered as cabbage and nyama soya. Maria took the gamble, bolted and was married to Chanda wabufi. The promised car (gbm valentine gift type), mansion, three meals in a day and others did not happen.
Naleta multipati and a one aleisa haleisa could not stand the abuse of Maria at the hands of Chanda wabufi and they each began to vie for her by telling her to open her eyes and run away from the lying chanda.
Each time Maria would approach her husband to fulfill his promise he would beat her and claim she was under the influence of bitter tribal rivals
Ok, why do you despise Mr Kaindu so much?
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By George Chellah and Speedwell Mupuchi
Post Newspaper: Saturday March 10, 2007
PATRIOTIC Front (PF) president Michael Sata has vowed that a new Republican constitution would be in place before 2011 whether President Levy Mwanawasa likes it or not. And Sata said President Mwanawasa should deal with local government and housing minister Sylvia Masebo’s thuggish conduct if he wants the PF councils countrywide to operate. And UPND president Hakainde Hichilema said Zambians were entitled to engage in politicking if the constitution they so desired was delayed.
Reacting to President Mwanawasa’s statement that he had been denied a chance to write a new constitution and that some people were preoccupied with demonstrations against the government, Sata said PF would continue to mount…
Hon. Kaingu is entitled to change his mind should he realise the previous path he was on was leading to no where. How many of our political leaders to day changed their minds and have continued to be “recycled” to date. I choose to use my head. Our own President of today, just like Hon. Kaingu, has changed his mind about the constitution. The very article above shows that. Instead of us emphasizing this fact we are now attacking people who are just reminding him of what he promised yester year. What kind of Kaponyas are you? I am sure the President has a better reason for changing his mind but as long as he keeps it away from Zambians whom he represents, they will continue asking and demanding. Mushota, plse stop using God’s name in vain. You are just sinning now. Repent and reason.
Come on Mweetwa and Kaingu not that crap again ! It is folly to try to hold government at ransom over this nonsensical issue.The constitution will come all you need is patience.You are asking for the right thing at a Wrong time.No need to rush because you rush you crush.
@ Saulosi what patience is needed? The current confusion comes about as a result of abrogation of the Tech Committee to Release the constitution to the public upon completion of finalizing the draft. As if that was not enough, the President is talking of an animal driven constitution!!! Think man, think with your brains. Don’t think with your heart. Its not too difficult for the President to state when he will release the constitution to the public.
You hold someone or something to ransom, not at ransom.
Go back to school you muppet, and your grammar and sentences is appalling !
I know I am doing a PhD but this is the worst drivel you have come up with, and i am not talking about your political point which is valid.
I am not hating, I like you Saulosi, just making YOU do not crash 🙂
How old are you seriously?
Good afternoon from Scotland, and I am 27 by the way.
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You do not hold anything ar ranson, you hold something to ransom.
I am sure it was just a typographical error, but you dont sound very intelligent Salusi, so I don not know really.
I suppose time for you to exculpate yourself, or it is you who will crash as you have alluded in your post.
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Mushota i know you are just a stupid attention seeker no wonder i don`t respond to your whims.Get a life !!
Oh poor Saulosi, i touched you where it mattered the most?
Do not respond to me, but you will realise I was barely exposing you
from your pretence blanket that everyone can see through.
Enjoy your day
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You can`t touch me you low life creature.I`m just telling you that you shouldn’t be responding to my posts.I hate people without manners.By the way you are not any more educated compared to me so stop being a prick.It is not all of us who likes boasting about our academic careers because we know we are, no wonder we are here it is because of Education unlike you who has to use what is between your legs to be in Europe.Like i said get a life.I hate trolls like you.
I thought you do not reply to me so you do 🙂
Look I was merely being the bigger person, and correcting your incoherent sentence sadly you have not taken that well..
Remember I dont post to be liked , pretty much the opposite unlike you, but that shouldn’t be taken as being dull,as you are doing.Not even exaggerating. You’re pathetic for posting that. It’s completely disgraceful, and nobody could comprehend what you were saying if their lives depended on it. You’re a waste of space and life, and you should feel bad and ashamed for posting. If your family saw your post themselves, they would’ve looked and felt bad for having a stupendous, biological mistake
You could kill somebody or make somebody very sick from reading your disgusting
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You so silly it is not even funny,
I shouldn’t be responding to what? Seriously how old are you? You now even own posts that should not be replied to?
Ok I will always do, then what got a gun? shoot then?
Look I am always happy when someone uses profanity because i know they have limited vocabulary, which is sickness from where i come from..
You’re very ignorant; it’s blatant. Your attempt to look smart was also blatant and was an utter failure. I hope you learn from reading this word wall.
Again you are free to call me and belittle me, but careful don’t point at me, you might lose your finger
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sorry mushota.
I was just being stupid. We can be friends I am so sorry my dear
Mushota you are just another ignorant prick hiding behind that fake picture/profile.Girl/Boy i can take you on because i have always been a strong debater so bring it on.I know you only have an IQ of a toddler no wonder your posts have never been consistent.It appears to me that you suffers from bipolar disorder.What a tool !
By George Chellah and Speedwell Mupuchi
Post Newspaper: Saturday March 10, 2007
PATRIOTIC Front (PF) president Michael Sata has vowed that a new Republican constitution would be in place before 2011 whether President Levy Mwanawasa likes it or not. And Sata said President Mwanawasa should deal with local government and housing minister Sylvia Masebo’s thuggish conduct if he wants the PF councils countrywide to operate. And UPND president Hakainde Hichilema said Zambians were entitled to engage in politicking if the constitution they so desired was delayed.
Reacting to President Mwanawasa’s statement that he had been denied a chance to write a new constitution and that some people were preoccupied with demonstrations against the government, Sata said PF would continue to mount…
Ha ha ha.I’m enjoying this.Keep on going.Mushota you started the fight and insulting him stop playing victim.Come on we are waiting.
Mushoto where are you ? putting on your sanitary pads and tampons?
@Shootist…no she is actually putting on her diapers.She has bladder incontinence issues.
Poor Saulosi, you are craving for support I see.
Unlike you I do not need support, because i don’t anyone here to make me feel relevant as a matter of fact you can have all the people massage you tender heart
I stand alone, and if any man pushes the stone i stand upon the will be crashed’ Remember that is a quote from the late Dr Chiluba. Someone correct me if I am wrong
Anyway I can not defend myself from what you have called me, and really you are just another victim of my awesomeness.
Look, you are not even half the Man Nicholas is, so really you are worthless.You are a spineless little worm deserving nothing but the profoundest contempt
A coxcomb hope I got the spelling correctly is what defines of you
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My dear mentally challenged Mushota I see you’ve set aside this special time to humiliate yourself in public.I know it is a waste of time to trying to debate with a moron but i bet some morons like you deserve a bit of special treatment. You’re so mentally shallow such that your IQ and shoe size are the same.I bet trolling gives you that adrenalin kick.I think i understand your frustration my boy/girl ,it is not easy to live a life of no friends ,but just blogging on LT as the only past time activity.Boy/girl you need to have your faculties checked because that reclusive lifestyle of your will take you to an early grave.
Ki ki ki Saulosi vs Mushota it is a battle of PF cadres.Lol
That was a joke and premeditated , not funny really
Try again, say something new.
I am waiting. The one about the shoe size is lame and an old one , and also why are you liking your own comments ? 🙂
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Saulosi, 2 things
First and foremost unlike you who posts and ‘likes’ their comments I do not, and I want to be the heel which I am. You see I always get what I want. So it is a compliment to be red arrowed because that is ME. You want to be liked by yourself? What else do you do to yourself when you are alone 🙂
Secondly, the point of a brain being pear shaped shoe size is lame, just stop just stop that is like my niece throwing tantrums, probably proves you are a little man that loves the sound of their own voice, yuk
You are a stench, a revulsion, a big suck on a sour lemon, and that is not an insult, it is what you and I both know.
Stop bringing a knife, to a gun fight 🙂
What are you doing ?
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The people driven constitution will be delivered to the people before 2016 elections. Be patient ba opposition. period! we ve had just about enough of your bickering on non-issues
@Kudos. Could it be that Sata being the master tactician that he is wants to wear out the oppposition and then just before elections deliver the people’s consititution which will be a coup de grâce to his opponents?!
Something just tells me that Sata knows he cannot but give the people their constitution. It is too much risk for him and his children if he does anything to the contrary.
No wonder your skull looks like that. Who wants to be patient for 3-4 CRCs. You the people that resign deliberately to reality. Sometimes, you just need to shut up and allow people with something to say do so. These are not small issues where puppets like you should poke their rotten nose
You are right in your statement, but your skull is appalling, and disgusting
How silly
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By George Chellah and Speedwell Mupuchi
Post Newspaper: Saturday March 10, 2007
PATRIOTIC Front (PF) president Michael Sata has vowed that a new Republican constitution would be in place before 2011 whether President Levy Mwanawasa likes it or not. And Sata said President Mwanawasa should deal with local government and housing minister Sylvia Masebo’s thuggish conduct if he wants the PF councils countrywide to operate. And UPND president Hakainde Hichilema said Zambians were entitled to engage in politicking if the constitution they so desired was delayed.
Reacting to President Mwanawasa’s statement that he had been denied a chance to write a new constitution and that some people were preoccupied with demonstrations against the government, Sata said PF would continue to mount…
@Saulosi
What we want is the roadmap in case he can’t provide this document soonest, we are not asking for too much
No, that is what you are asking, and you wont get anything.
Now go and study
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People have said, written and cried enough for the release of the document and yet the likes of the Kabimbas think Zambia is their own home or village which they can manipulate in anyway they want. We say no,no, no, noh! to this red lipped man and who ever sends him. Why do people change once they go into power. Be 4 they look reasonable and it’s like they get bewitched once they assume power, which; in an case comes from people. Kabimba we do not need those rhetoric. Ba Sata we don’t need lies, time and resources have already been lost. We are all Zambians. GIVE US THE CONSTITUTION OR ELSE!
Sir, the constitution will come !
Patience sir
The bible in Ephesians 4:2 ESV
“With all humility and gentleness, with patience, bearing with one another in love,”
Be patient sir
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You have asked a very pertinent question. “Why do people change once they go into power. Be 4 they look reasonable and it’s like they get bewitched once they assume power, which; in an case comes from people.” – Bbautu
And you are still blindly following the opposition who when you give power, they will change. Don’t trust politicians. Just fight your own battles. Politicians won’t develop Zambia. It is citizens like you and me who have to develop this nation but unfortunately, we have people like Sata, Kabimba, HH, Kaingu, the useless young mab Cornelius Mwetwa to destryo the country for us.
By George Chellah and Speedwell Mupuchi
Post Newspaper: Saturday March 10, 2007
PATRIOTIC Front (PF) president Michael Sata has vowed that a new Republican constitution would be in place before 2011 whether President Levy Mwanawasa likes it or not. And Sata said President Mwanawasa should deal with local government and housing minister Sylvia Masebo’s thuggish conduct if he wants the PF councils countrywide to operate. And UPND president Hakainde Hichilema said Zambians were entitled to engage in politicking if the constitution they so desired was delayed.
Reacting to President Mwanawasa’s statement that he had been denied a chance to write a new constitution and that some people were preoccupied with demonstrations against the government, Sata said PF would continue to mount…
Good afternoon,
All this uproar on the constitution is becoming monotonous. Even though it’s their right, I feel people ought to appreciate the fact that the country is and has always been peacifully governed under the current constitution.
One thing they should know is that the coming into effect of a new constitution does not guarantee good governance. In Africa, we have a lot of countries where good constitutions are in bad hands. Egypt is one of them.
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I agree with you.
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Can I have some of the stuff you are smoking and join you in the oblivion void of reality?
Oh dear me, trying to sit this one on the fence as well….why is it that a new constitution was drafted in the first place? You ask Sata … a peoples constitution is a road map to good governance.
Thats the plan Mutale Sengelebwe. Exactly. the opposition will be humiliated. but we cant release constitution now because for developments sake, the president still needs that unlimited power under the current constitution. if opposition wins 2016 then so be it, they’ll be ruling with a limiting constitution. but then we all know the opposition will never win for another 30 years or so. its win win for HE MCS
Regardless of how great a point you make, it is
practically invalid because of that awful picture you have there.
Every face tells a story.
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And leave the opposition millions in debts from squandered public money!
That is why we need a new Constitution NOW. We cannot allow this M0R0N of a Finance Minister to borrow billions with no proper budget, useless accounting controls, and in 2016 it is all gone, with no development and Zambians condemned to work for another 20 years to pay for foolish PF mistakes and corruption!
Some bloggers here are so short sighted, indeed they cannot see beyond their noses, and their sentiments leave much to be desired. It beats me how a well meaning action like advocating for the people driven constitution could be regarded as nonsensical. Just who is being nonsensical here, the current leadership in government who are busy intimidating and belittling the Zambian Citizenry on the constitution making process for their selfish gains or the masses, the governed who are crying for what rightly belongs to them? Just who is nonsensical?
Lets be more objective,serious and patriotic about this issue and leave behind a legacy, a foundation for the rule of law for our future generations to come and proudly write home about.
Honestly, we need independence such from myopia!
Sorry, last sentence should read:
Honestly, we need independence from such myopia!
You make a carrying case, although you sound discontontianae about people for no reason at all.
People are free to reason in a way they see fit
I agree with you on Posterity, as really what is happening now should be about the posterity and many years to come
I have distanced myself from your perception that you think for someone not consenting on this ‘driven constitution’ is short sighted.
Personally and i speak for people who are enlightened, I think, the constitution in as much as it is needed is not a very salient.
Patience is important. Someone I cant quiet remember who once said ‘The test of good manners is to be patient with the bad ones.
Please give the PF patience they will come good
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By George Chellah and Speedwell Mupuchi
Post Newspaper: Saturday March 10, 2007
PATRIOTIC Front (PF) president Michael Sata has vowed that a new Republican constitution would be in place before 2011 whether President Levy Mwanawasa likes it or not. And Sata said President Mwanawasa should deal with local government and housing minister Sylvia Masebo’s thuggish conduct if he wants the PF councils countrywide to operate. And UPND president Hakainde Hichilema said Zambians were entitled to engage in politicking if the constitution they so desired was delayed.
Reacting to President Mwanawasa’s statement that he had been denied a chance to write a new constitution and that some people were preoccupied with demonstrations against the government, Sata said PF would continue to mount…
Yes, now PF is your time, just a reminder over what you used to do to Mwanawasa and RB and today is your turn. In fact it even long due because you promised us to deliver in 90 days. Why are you changing the course when the draft is in your hands? Pressure will make some of you burst with BP. Zambia are all unanimously wanting to have their own constitution. If you thought Mwanawasa and RB were fools, now call yourselves today who you are!
Sir no one believed anything to do with 90 Days
Those statements and that cliche was meant for the people least educated and people who believed in miracles indiscreetly.
You sound wise, I am sure you didn’t believe that.
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By George Chellah and Speedwell Mupuchi
Post Newspaper: Saturday March 10, 2007
PATRIOTIC Front (PF) president Michael Sata has vowed that a new Republican constitution would be in place before 2011 whether President Levy Mwanawasa likes it or not. And Sata said President Mwanawasa should deal with local government and housing minister Sylvia Masebo’s thuggish conduct if he wants the PF councils countrywide to operate. And UPND president Hakainde Hichilema said Zambians were entitled to engage in politicking if the constitution they so desired was delayed.
Reacting to President Mwanawasa’s statement that he had been denied a chance to write a new constitution and that some people were preoccupied with demonstrations against the government, Sata said PF would continue to mount…
This is the only sensible thing to do so that useless MPs can be flashed out and ANOTHER government is voted in.
No sir, you sound delusional.
Perhaps you need to flash your retardness and fill it in with wisdom
Trust me sir, the PF are doing just fine, we all make mistakes, judge them in 2016 sir
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But this person Mushota. that cute picture next to you, if its your true likeness then your point is valid. but as many believe here you’re actually a man with sexual-orientation and gender self-identification challenges (i hate gay people like you by the way). on a more serious note, i dont flip-flop on issues like you. you go with any side any day you wake up with your strange homo-hormones. i tend to ignore your menstrual rantings because you’re a troll seeking attention. grow up then come converse with me. you sound pre-teen at times you little butt-fakker. my avatar is the skull of man
In that case accept my apology sir
1 John 4 vs 7-8
Beloved, let us love one another, for love is from God, and whoever loves has been born of God and knows God. Anyone who does not love does not know God, because God is love.
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And I will become a man, if your put your manhood on me , because I am not.
Please change your skull it is emetic!
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Is there really a crisis over the constitution?
your desire to solve the many problems affecting our people should not lead us to cynicism, anarchy and unnecessary impatience.
We have learnt that no isolated measure, no matter how just or effective it seems, can lead to the true radical solutions we are aiming for. We must understand above all that the only way to tackle systematically the problems and challenges facing our people is by dealing with the situation in its entirety and following the laws of the construction of a more just, fair and humane society.
We have repeatedly warned against excessive zeal, unilateral judgments. We have also called on the Zambian people to watch out for thos
‘The test of good manners is to be patient with the bad ones.’
I have been very patient with Mushota today!
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constitution
No no no ,no constitution dear we want sata 2016
ka Mushota if you think you can make me change the skull the way you order your boyfriend to change diapers you’re mistaken. you are a stupid little person. concentrate on the more serious issues at hand. you’re so irritating and unbelievably *****ic. the ayes have it, the skull remains
ka Mushota if you think you can make me change the skull the way you order your boyfriend to change diapers you’re mistaken. you are a stupid little person. concentrate on the more serious issues at hand. you’re so irritating and unbelievably i d i o t i c. the ayes have it, the skull remains
You can only tell a man is sinking when they resort to profanity.
Of Course you don’t have to change it sir, but like I said, pretty much, you are not going to employ a candidate that comes to an interview in slippers and shorts are you? regardless of well the interview goes?
See my point sir? I maybe irritating as you put it but I am probably getting the hate from you because I am saying the truth.
I like you sir, but maybe opening a can of worms by attacking me. Do not call this fighting back, just realigning you, so you come to your senses.
I change no diapers, but if changing is anything to go by, I am sure your attitude may need changing.
Enjoy your day.
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I hav been reading comments and rantings at times about this mushota person.
Please mushota jst live your paradise their in UK and let us gnash our teeth here in hell zambia with SATAn.
What makes you think that we don’t need a new constitution. Are you not seing how the presidential powers r being abused in this our current constitution. Need I say more? Let those wit eyes see nd those wit ears hear.
The need for a new constitution will not be frustrated by pipo like you.
First of all sir, I see you almost got carried away belittling me, but you came to your senses by attacking what i was talking about, that is what it should be about good!
Sir, I was saying the constitution should come, BUT it is not important, and it will come,. Coming to this blog and listening to people (looks like including you) that are demanding a constitutional impatiently sounds like a stranded,frustrated man that ushers only repeated words forgetting it is proving foolhardy.
You and i know it will come albeit it a little later than we would have liked. But why on earth are we making it a mandate, and every ingeminate on our speech.
That is my gremlin, in my armour. Give it time sir.
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and for your own information ka Mushota, i dont put my manhood on a girl. it goes inside. but this is not the forum for such explicit adult material. you are small cow just like (HH) you cattle crooks. your myopia extends far beyond your retina and your brain short-circuits everytime you come across intelligent politcal dialogue. of all the topics here you resort to talking about the skull? dont you have better things to do? you’re bored in your small dorm. no friends. no boyfriend, just one night users? you’re probably fat
Again sir, you using profanity.
i think I am too smart to reply to you.
Proverbs 6:12
A worthless person, a wicked man, goes about with crooked speech.
Ask me a question without resorting to name calling sir.
Prove me you at least belong to my level or more.
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Ka mushota you don’t have anything to do.
You keep changing your name, but coming from same country.
You are confusing yourself.
Ask em a question, I will educate you, and of course you will enlightened I am sure.
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#Kudos…am very disappointed with you really, you seem not to have no brains and silly; how on earth a person of your skull that you decided as a best potrait of your self would go so hate-viral against Mushota. I do not like all that Mushota writes as much as I do not like everything that you write, but have at any time sunk so low in my mind like you’ve exhibited today. consider quiting from commenting on this site … I urge the editor consider blocking you comments from now onwards. thanx
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You seem to breath the same air I do.
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You are right. He is as empty as his skull. A little brat really trying hard to make himself feel bigger.
Tribal based issues will not the country any where. The constitution will be ready before 2016 and not with the 50+1 costly and catalyst to tribalism and regionalism.
Zambia does not have a luxury of resources to waste on election re-runs. There are other important issues to spend money on and not on such useless re-runs.
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Whats your take on the numerous induced bye-elections held so far considering the fact that 2years of the five year term are gone?
Njalamiba Musonda…..
50+1 is feared by tribalists and dictators, people with lttle support.
Your arguments are not factual. They are not based on evidence. Who tells you that 50+1 leads to costly elections all the time. What about the many by-elections we have had? If you did not know, 50+1 gives comfort to the winning candidate, it ensures that the leader is elected into office by more than 50% of the people who voted. Tribalists on the other hand fear it because if their tribe is big and they overwhelmingly vote tribally, candidates from small tribes stand no chance. Please, see it this way. You may feel comfortable because you are from a big tribe but let us think beyond our narrow personal interests. We need a mechanism to break the tribal barrier between us. 50+1 is worth it.
sichali, Actually the LT editors are wiser than most of you here. the only elements that spoil blogs like this are trolls like Mushota. do some research on that. Mushota is what they call an internet troll. you’ll discover that there’s some form of obsession in her commenting. that “Thanks” she puts at the end is her trademark. trademarking or signature is one of the traits of trolls. you need balanced blogging from anti UPND patriots like me. to block me on LT is actually an infringement on my rights. so i hope the editors will see through your shallow assertions. the only mistake i made today was choosing to respond to this troll Mushota whatever it is! sichali you’re afraid to admit that my anti UPND stance will make others realize that UPND has lost direction
I do not have a problem with you, I have a problem with how you appear Sir:
I am responding to those name calling from whatever you have called me, but remember:
“Your appearance, attitude, and confidence define you as a person.
A professional, well-dressed golfer, like a businessperson, gives the impression that he thinks that the golf course and/or workplace and the people there are important.” Lori Myers
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Boyi na chi skull chobe uli mukali. The diatribe with Mushota has made interesting reading. Sincerly I love the skull. Wish I could meet you for a tutorial on how to fix a similar but black skull on my blog!
sichali also take note of how ka Mushota tries to reply to each and every blogger targeting useless non-issues like a skull avatar? so what happens if i change the skull today? all the mushota comments will be of no relevance. trollers are bloggers who add no value to the blog. let us learn to debate on real issues like why it is smart, strategic and advantageous for tactful HE MCS to release the constitution shortly before 2016 elections. let this Mushota revel in her/his/its own drunken misery
Go away you are boring now, and have taking this personal sadly
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You are talking about adding value to blogging but you have not added any value to todays topic which makes me doubt your level of intelligence up in your head
Soon it will be check and checkmate!!!
Incredulous says:
September 18, 2011 at 9:18 pm
Your analysis is spot on, but your nerve fails at the conclusive moment. Fact 1: 2001 election result – Sata = 3.4%; Fact 2: 2006 election result – Sata = 29.37%; Fact 3: 2008 election result – Sata = 38.64%; (Not-so-) Speculative guess: 2011 election result for Sata > 40%. I am not voting for him, but you cannot escape reality: Sata is more popular now than he was in 2008. RB benefited from sympathy vote for Levy Mwanawasa in 2008. It is HIGHLY unlikely that RB, on his own steam, will get anything like the 40% he ‘got’ in 2008. Prediction: 1. All minor candidates put together <= 10% of vote; 2. HH = 15%; 3. RB = ~32 +/- 2%; 4. Sata = 43 +/- 2%. For the MMD to conjure up another 'win' by rigging will be too difficult this time,…
Summarise this boring poem you are throwing at us:
What is your point in 2 sentences?
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In 2011, Sata got 37% and that’s the empirical evidence of the elections.
However,
By George Chellah and Speedwell Mupuchi
Post Newspaper: Saturday March 10, 2007
PATRIOTIC Front (PF) president Michael Sata has vowed that a new Republican constitution would be in place before 2011 whether President Levy Mwanawasa likes it or not. And Sata said President Mwanawasa should deal with local government and housing minister Sylvia Masebo’s thuggish conduct if he wants the PF councils countrywide to operate. And UPND president Hakainde Hichilema said Zambians were entitled to engage in politicking if the constitution they so desired was delayed.
Reacting to President Mwanawasa’s statement that he had been denied a chance to write a new constitution and that some people were…
Unless releasing the draft constitution affects the national security of the country, there’s no need for the secrecy. The process should be open to the public from start to finish and the people should be the final arbiters (through a vote). Unfortunately the government is obfuscating the process by continuing to stall. Transparency should be the goal in such a process so the people can be confident that their government has their interests at heart. Mr. Sata, release the document and let the people decide.
It will come Sir be patient.
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Are you the official spokeperson for the govenment? If not, your comment is speculative at best.
By George Chellah and Speedwell Mupuchi
Post Newspaper: Saturday March 10, 2007
PATRIOTIC Front (PF) president Michael Sata has vowed that a new Republican constitution would be in place before 2011 whether President Levy Mwanawasa likes it or not. And Sata said President Mwanawasa should deal with local government and housing minister Sylvia Masebo’s thuggish conduct if he wants the PF councils countrywide to operate. And UPND president Hakainde Hichilema said Zambians were entitled to engage in politicking if the constitution they so desired was delayed.
Reacting to President Mwanawasa’s statement that he had been denied a chance to write a new constitution and that some people were preoccupied with demonstrations against the government, Sata said PF would continue to mount…
Ontnd from last post:————For the MMD to conjure up another ‘win’ by rigging will be too difficult this time, because of the large margin of Sata’s genuine victory. Sata’s problem will be one of managing expectations, and to avoid looking vindictive and petty in his attempts to dismantle the MMD for its years of corruption, however well intentioned. Then the Zambia’s job will be to ensure that his party rules for one term only. Uphill battles all round: Much caginess and mistrust between the ruled and the ruler throughout the five years. Sata’s health will not hold up under all this stress. Constitutional issues within 3 years.
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That was what someone predicted in 2011 on the date and time posted in the first post.
Way…Knee man kemit
It’s so hard to come to terms with the level of incompetence of our elected leaders. Granted some ‘gridlock’ in the constitutional process of governance but to have such impasse, malignment and lackluster commitment to government officers (top brass, middle and lower level) is just a shame. And that’s putting it mildly. Unfortunately, government is in many ways a reflection of it’s citizens and one need only read some of the comments here to see the dysfunction is deep rooted and hence the decay we have in Zambia. Those of you who took English Lit. in high school (Libs ’99) may have read Orwell’s ‘Animal Farm’. Remember Muriel the Goat? We need to be more like him and less like Napoleon and his cohorts. Or we can degenerate into oblivious ineptitude, your choice.
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This is just too much we all know the need for the new constitution but thats not the only problem Zambia faces, our MPs have lots to do in the constituences. Its not like when the constitution comes then Bread and butter will automatically appear on the tables I agree this is unnecessary delay from the PF but the rhetoric from the opposition is defeating the good cause, and its just that …Rhetoric. Thanks.
Sincerely,
Lee Habaponta Bsc,Msc,Phd
By George Chellah and Speedwell Mupuchi
Post Newspaper: Saturday March 10, 2007
PATRIOTIC Front (PF) president Michael Sata has vowed that a new Republican constitution would be in place before 2011 whether President Levy Mwanawasa likes it or not. And Sata said President Mwanawasa should deal with local government and housing minister Sylvia Masebo’s thuggish conduct if he wants the PF councils countrywide to operate. And UPND president Hakainde Hichilema said Zambians were entitled to engage in politicking if the constitution they so desired was delayed.
Reacting to President Mwanawasa’s statement that he had been denied a chance to write a new constitution and that some people were preoccupied with demonstrations against the government, Sata said PF would continue to mount…
Which low calibre university bestowed a Phd on you? I am sure even your so called BSc was obtained from some low ranked university in war torn Sudan. I do not expect anybody who has gone beyond grade 9 to have such shallow level of thinking.
Yes, a good constitution will create an enabling environment for people to freely enjoy their bread and butter.
Look at how these useless MPs moved fast at removing RB’s immunity which is not benefiting Zambians, but the constitution defines modernity as opposed to a stone age one made by the colonialists! This is really a useless …!
The stupid Mushota trying to anger people.What an as.s hole !
Mushota, Kudos and Saulosi are all cowardly enemies, very childish of them.
Especially Mushota, I don’t want to about our history, however, very disappointing to see Mushota who I have known all those years and change into a hopeless girl is shocking.
Won’t talk much, but Musho, remember your history and who you really are, otherwise I will regrete the………………..all that time.
Please change and stop being such a great nuisance to people who are suffering and standing for the million poor Zambians.
Leave Mushota alone all you little minds. We bloggers will decide on our own, in our hearts whether she is irritating or not and we won’t announce to the whole world about our decisions. She has every right to blog the way she sees fit, just like some nonsensical bloggers e.g shipundu and kudos. Who told you that you have the right to tell everyone what is right and what is wrong. Just put your ideas across. If we agree we will give a green tick.
By George Chellah and Speedwell Mupuchi
Post Newspaper: Saturday March 10, 2007
PATRIOTIC Front (PF) president Michael Sata has vowed that a new Republican constitution would be in place before 2011 whether President Levy Mwanawasa likes it or not. And Sata said President Mwanawasa should deal with local government and housing minister Sylvia Masebo’s thuggish conduct if he wants the PF councils countrywide to operate. And UPND president Hakainde Hichilema said Zambians were entitled to engage in politicking if the constitution they so desired was delayed.
Reacting to President Mwanawasa’s statement that he had been denied a chance to write a new constitution and that some people were preoccupied with demonstrations against the government, Sata said PF would continue to mount…
@ mushota, get a life not just defending because you are a cadre, you diaturb a lot of people with intellectual comments.learn to be sincere if your president do not need a constitution then why did he need it during MMD . don;t think Zambians have a short memory as is yours. Many words do not feel a basket
bravo opposition mps after all yu are more wiser than the most useless mps and cabinet of pf we want the new constitution now and not later to hell with the foolish pot holes support
The Constitution is a very distant document. On its own it cannot change much…what needs to be of priority is developmental issues and certain policies and laws which can be reviewed inside parliament.
I was not happy seeing my own MP behaving like an obstinate Sunday school boy….even sitting down in defiance of our Speaker yelling ‘ Constitution’ as though the enacted Constitution will reverse the dollar-Kwacha rate and make KCM return the money they are looting.
For our MPs own information..we constituents are also planning to Recall all you inactive MPs basing on the number of visits made to your areas and projects initiated and delivered. I will share the Score Card with you shortly.
Mushota turning this into animal farm, simple issue to fix just honor promise and give people their constitution, that’s all we can get from government all so called development is money in contractor’s pockets like the way American contractors made money in Iraqi
Kapuli why have name like that, you don’t have an MP in Zed laughable you
Are in diaspora let people in Zambia say my MP not you who is enjoying himself
Outside not affected by useless MPs
Michael Chilufya Sata is real democrat. He has absorbed all the insults and severe provocation. mweetwa n your fellow chaps you get power through the ballot and not through confusion. Learn from Libya. Zambians want cheap Millie Meal and decent livelihood. They won’t eat that paper that has been there before you were born. What’s the rush? if you think you re going to destabilize the country for your own selfishness, You must be joking.
PF has mourned Katuba election loss enough to turn to business of constitution now. Mr Sata should be reminded that not all Zambians are Bembas to be tossed about or dethrone their traditional leadership as he has done with Bemba’s Chitimukulu. Zambians want a new constitution and deal with it as promised.
Can some one say it in Bemba kuli Ba Sata please.
Mushota…………
Thank you for the assurances from you that we shall soon have the constitution. Should we take it that you are talking from a position of authority but under a pseudo name? But why the anonymity? We are all Zambians and I am sure you can trust us and speak to us the way your party reps spoke during campaigns. What is wrong with giving us the roadmap? You want us to be patient? You did not display that patience when the MMD were playing the same game on the constitution. Be real. We know the scriptures you have been throwing at us are out of context. Look, God did not seek a vote from us. He is self-existing and decided on His own to create us for fellowship. Stop comparing our President with God. You are being unfair to the President, who is only human.
I shudder to think there more who think like some of you in this country. How can you in all your exposure contend that the fact they said they would provide the constitution in 90 days inconsequential? This goes to the root of the integrity of a leader or the lack of it! Its obscene that one aspiring for the highest office of the land can say one thing and mean something else! My take in all this is that Mr Micheal Chilufya Sata owes the people of Zambia a serious apology! He needs to get off his high horse and face the people instead of hiding behind others! Iam calling for a move to sue the PF govt for misuse of public funds in the constitution making process since they now say the old constitution needs little or no changes. They got that money under false pretenses.
Amazing……
Kudos has been knocked off by Mushota at a count of three….
True!, a pen is mightier than a sword.
i laugh when i see men attack each other in the name of belonging to opposite sex. this one poses as a lady/ girl , the other as man/ gentleman. they size each other without knowing that the other is actually a male; they use feminine abusive language against each other. YOU ARE ALL MEN, I JUST KNOW ., SO KEEP KOOL
My Dear Mushota do not let emotions get the best of your judgment.
We have given PF a chance; However we have to check what they are doing and provide criticism, checks and balances to keep them focused. This is essentially the reason I blog; its not to attack personalities or individuals; my values teach me to love even my enemies; and love is corrective.
whilst am in diaspora, my heart is always with Zambia and Zambians. I contribute taxes and I have employed people back home. I visit Zambia at least once in a year. Am Zambian and I love Zambia; its my Home.
I may not be as educated as you, but I do not look down on the least educated or poor, but I have respect for humanity; poor, rich, male, female, red, white, black whatever, they were created in the image of God.
Good Day &…
imwe u er gast ma sporck people tekeniko naimwe ….
yes dissolve parley..we are ready!!