Hjoe Moono
Thanks to the Post Newspaper’s invasion of privacy and ‘deep-digging’, we now know indeed that Alexander Bwalya Chikwanda (ABC) is a noble man, a true statesman with a genuine concern for Zambia and its people.
While no one would support private media tapping of private conversations, the conversation between ABC and the Post’s ‘Other Person’ has clearly enlightened many of us that even in Mr. Chikwanda private home, while sipping on ka red wine, he is still concerned about the affairs of the nation.
I can imagine that the publication of this transcript was aimed at painting a negative image of ABC, but I think most would now agree that the effect is otherwise—-his ratings have gone up! The conversation has shown us that he is indeed an honourable man with respect and his character and stature if of a high standing. He is not petty in his dealings, and has larger concerns than petty fights.
Reading through the recorded conversation, many have asked the question: So What? Reading further, any sane Zambian would agree that the conversation reveals ABC as a principled man that is not excited about being in a position of authority. He comes out as a loyal believer of Mr. Sata who is willing to work hard to compensate for his Mr. Sata’s shortcomings.
He is concerned about so many things: From the Millennium Challenge Account to Rajan Mathani’s troubled Finance Bank where he is not willing to compromise the violation of the Banking and Financial Services Regulations of the Zambia. He clearly laments about the injustice Finance Bank faced when it was sold off for K5billion (unrebased) when it was worth over $100millio. He ponders on competition in the Cement industry and expresses his admiration for Aliko Dangote.
Clearly, if the post was hoping to discredit his standing in society, their invasion of privacy has not achieved its intended purpose. A further detailed read shows that ABC is indeed deeply concerned about the state of affairs but is however, willing to go if asked to, but cannot do so given the current state of the president. On his making reference to the Post newspaper, he is clearly not the kind of a politician who would need the Post to lobby for him.
With regards to details of the conversation, who would argue against ABC’s concerns such as:
1. Unnecessary and expensive government travel?
2. Non-Marketability of Wynter due to his arrogance when compared to Edgar Lungu?
3. The need to create a conducive environment for business to flourish?
4. That due to Mr. Sata’s health, someone has to double up their work effort to keep the country going?
5. That ZRA should approach any business entity and make it meet its tax obligations regardless of its real or perceived connections with state-house? That ZRA should be more proactive and focus on real concerns rather than following up small-scale traders and engaging in corrupt activities?
Clearly there is nothing malicious in ABC’s private discussions, and noting that it was over a bottle of red wine, one can only imagine that the man is indeed even more upright when sober!
Such media practice of tapping private conversations however shows us the other side of the paper—it’s a business that has failed to meet its tax obligations and would like to blame it on the Minister of Finance. It also shows how far the Post is willing to stoop, very low, perhaps even get deeper in the ground to survive. Many may be aware of Rupert Murdoch’s case of tapping telephone conversations. Clearly this led him in trouble, and had to pay a huge price. One would have hoped that the Post ‘snooping team’ is aware of the dangers of invasion of privacy and learn, or at least at the bare minimum practice the media ethics they are expected to be trained in.
If this is the ‘bad’ that the post has on ABC, then we can only imagine the ‘good’ side that they deliberately ignored. Clearly they have failed to get this man bow down to them. They triumphed with MMD’s Magande when he proposed some form of taxes to the media houses which the vehemently opposed, but they clearly have now met an enlightened and non-compromising noble statesman without qualification who does not need their sympathy nor support to execute his duties diligently. Let the show down continue.
Now let me get myself a ka red French wine, tu beko practical!
This is about to blow up, I always knew the post will one day differ with the PF leadership. Pass the popcorn please..
I too did not see anything wrong with what Mr Chikwanda said. I have always known and said it on this blog that he was the only bright spot in the PF Government and what the Post put out just confirmed what I have always thought about Mr Chikwanda-An honorable man.
I think the Post needs to be told that if you are stuck in a hole, the first thing to do is stop digging. Looks like they have just dug in further by illegally invading somebody’s privacy and I doubt this would stand in any court of law if it was their intention.
Button line is if the post are moral police men in this country, they should have known better about the consequencies of breaking the law
Now they two things on their face #PayYourTaxes and #PayBackDBZDebt
Ki ki ki ki i also got a similar impression after reading that transcript in the post online. Chikwanda is indeed a principled man. A big thumbs up to him
I think M’membe has become mentally retarded, what is this of recording people’s private conservations?
I just hope and wish the “umwaiche” who was drinking with Ba Chikwanda is not Chellah.
Just the other day, someone commented on this blog that he expected Mumembe and the Post not to write about their own troubles in their own paper. Alas, they have done exactly that! This is very unethical. This is not the Mmembe of 1991, the guy has thrown all journalist values out the window – i guess the guy had been pretending all along, now the true evil Mmembe is coming out !!
Hooo forgot to give credit to Hjoe Moono, our Tonga boy. Infact we are just jealous of Tongas & Lozis because they more educated. Unfortunately them themselves have that ka inborn sadness in them.
Be like Lungu or Ba Chikwanda, drink sometimes please… drink please.
too good for Fred. No law on wire tapping in Zed. The hook is not there. Too bad he exposed the integrity of ABC.
@Nostradamus
You young man are a hypocrite. Only the other day you were insisting Field Ruwe be arrested for mentioning names of politicians and here you are implicating Chellah with no proof. You better be careful. Don’t let the blogging addiction and menace get to your head. I see you also peddle lies that you are friends with Ruwe and drink with him in New York bars. Let that lie go. It will get the better of you. I know Ruwe and work with him. He is not in your town. What you are saying about him is untrue. Little liars like yourself should not be blogging.
@Ndime
Even if there is no law on phone hacking in Zambia, there are laws which prevents an individual without state authorisation to evade some one ‘s privacy. What Mmembe did is similar to searching some one ‘s house without a warrant. So what ever laws Zambia has will be tweaked to make sure Mmembe dances ndendeule.
Uk also has no specific laws on phone hacking, but the country managed to nail the culprits within the remits of the existing legal frame work.
So Mmembe is in deep sh1t because he did not only spy on Chikwanda as an individual but on a government top official. What makes Mmembe ‘s situation worse is the fact that PF managed to turn the people against him.
Just imagine if it was HH who spied on Chikwanda,what would PF and Mmembe have done to…
I don’t like politicians. They are all liars. To me a political gaffe is when a politician tells the truth! I couldn’t care less if Mr Chikwanda was planning on robbing the bank or killing someone. The fact that his conversation was taped in his home as a private citizen not as a minister of finance is astoundingly criminal. I hope with all my being that The Post newspaper is brought to book on this one.
To Mmembe I say ” whom the gods would destroy, they first render plump and juicy.”
Mmembe is a lawyer, he knows what he is doing. If you think he will go in for this then you are too naive.
Ba Chikwanda’s integrity as a real UNIPist has never been on trial … when MCS appointed him Minister Of Finance, I was the first to comment here and said the smart people of the Zambian Enterprise were in for a real treat with UNIP 2.0 accelerated rate of development.
What half-men like M’membe don’t understand is that to UNIPists like Ba Chikwanda, Zambia is greater than any single one of us. These kind are already well accomplished individuals who are in government for economic purposes.
Ba Chikwanda’s legacy can never be shaped by the POST neither can his character be defined by minion propaganda. At over 70 years, ABC has been there done that, he and Ba Kasonde were the youngest individuals at Finance before M’membe even cut his teeth.
Ba cepa sana abaice way below his…
meant to say “… These kind are already well accomplished individuals who are in government for NOT economic purposes but just to serve the smart people of the Zambian Enterprise.”
Ba cepa sana bakalume …. way below his league!!
@Nostradamus
boi! is it a mirale or chiloto??!! your lost son from Canada has re-appeared,,,,,,!!!… only that this time he calls himself @Nostralair,,,, looks like this time he resurrected from a drug rehab!!!
Comeon people,let us not leave issues unfinished.I want the PF members to first admit that they lied to us,starting from the president himself to the ordinary member on the street about the presidents health.why do we jump from issue to issue without resolving them completely.Ine i will consider the statesmanship of chikwanda later,only after we finish the unresolved lies that the president is fit and never was sick.Scott,Kaseba and kapeya laughed in our faces and told us that the president was fine and working,not sick.He opened parliament,his voice was sickly and yet people still maintained the man was never sick and that he was as fit as a fiddle.Post recording i think gives us a chance to conclude this chapter on mr satas sickness,bcoz chikwanda says he is sick.Pf cadres confess
@Nbobo, my son in Canada is a maniac. Its true he knows some of my friends like Field Ruwe. But I never said we drink in NY only. Ruwe lives around MA.
heeee why should I be disclosing where my friend Ruwe lives anyway?
This son of mine is just like his mother, he likes getting into my details the way M’membe gets into livingrooms of Ba Chikwanda.
Stay out my son.
@Nostradamus
You confused orphan
CIMBWI WIBILIMA ABABILIMA TABAFIKA. THE POST ARE DIGGING THEIR OWN GRAVE. TROUBLE IS M’MEMBE USES THE POST TO HAVE A GO AT HIS PERCEIVED ENEMIES, IN A SIMILAR MANNER HH USES UPND TO INSULT AND UTTER HIS TRIBAL AND RACIAL ABUSE ON STAT, SCOTT AND THE PEOPLE OF ZAMBIA. M’MEMBE (AND HH) MAY NEVER REACH THEIR INTENDED DESTINIES. M’MEMBE DESTINY IS TO AVOID PAYING BACK WHAT HE ‘STOLE’ FROM ZAMBIAN PEOPLE, AND HH’s DESTINY IS SIMPLY STATE HOUSE WITHOUT ANY PRESIDENTIAL (LEADERSHIP) QUALITIES. M’MEMBE ALIKWATA UMUFIMBILA. SIMILARLY, HH HAS DEEP HATE AND JEALOUS- HE’S NOT A LEADER BUT JUST A COWBOY. WHILE M’MEMBE IS NOT A PRINCIPLED MAN AS HE PREACHES ABOUT HIMSELF. HE’S ACTUALLY, OTHERWISE. JUST A REMINDER- INVASION OF PRIVACY IS A SERIOUS CRIME. But because Fred wanted to nail down…
…BECAUSE M’MEMBE’S SOLE AND WILD INTEREST WAS TO NAIL DOWN BA ABC HE IGNORED OR FORGOT THE GRAVITY OF INVASION OF PRIVACY AS A FELONY. FURTHER MORE, HIS OBSESSION WITH ATTACKING INDIVIDUALS USING HIS OWN PAPER BLINDED HIM FROM THE FACT THAT HE WAS IN FACT EXPOSING THE PRINCIPLED NATURE OF BA ABC, RATHER THAN HIS PERCEIVED DE CAMPAIGNING AND REPORTING OF BA ABC TO BA SATA IN REVENGE FOR HIS FIRED PAL- WYNTER. MPOMBO, WIBILIMA…
But, it is illegal or at least utra vires too for the Minister to give instructions to ZRA, an independent statutory board!
Mr Chikwanda is herteby challenged to instruct all the Ministers in his cabinet to publicly declare their tax returns. Let him do that and we shall see how many are tax compliant.
My understanding is that ZRA falls under the ministry of Finance so basically ZRA is under Chikwanda. Anything to do with revenue is under the ministry of Finance
Nowhere in the article does it show ABC instructing the ZRA. If anything ABC told Berlin Msiska to act professionally. This article has actually raised ABC’s credibility.
On the other hand, I feel the Post has committed a criminal offence by bugging ABC’s house without a court order and should be prosecuted for this crime. I hope the Police will not sleep on this matter and do what they are supposed to do.
But before that, I would advise ABC to file a formal complaint to enable the Police to move in.
we told PF,,, Sata and mmembe cant be a team or friends in heaven or hell!!!!,,,,, the bigger question is how did Mmembe manage to get that recording of ABC or how did he manage to record ABC??,,, Is Mmembe part of OP or has Mmembe got his own OP??
All I can say is that Mmembe is an evil, self-centred lunatic who is hell-bent on destroying others using his u.seless toilet paper newspaper. The earlier this man is eliminated from Zambian society, the better.
I think if Chikwanda can be vice president to Lungu , some semblance of sanity would be restored in the PF.
By Mmembe’s own revelations, Chikwanda is level headed person though not perfect. He is another better devil than most PF minions.
Good people get vindicated in the end. Time is the greatest equaliser.
If some one offers you a smart phone for free pass it on other wise they can monitor your calls and your movements by installing spy apps on it.
I suspect this is what happened to Chikwanda. I now fear that Sata’s phones including Kaseba’s are all bugged and Mmembe is listening in to their conversations with the help of kachella.
I also think Chella was planted at state house to spy for Mmembe. I now think he is being held at ransom by Mmembe to pass on as much information to Mmembe as possible.
Wapya Munzi
Rumour has it that Chikwanda is preparing for a mammoth legal battle with Mmembe and the post.
Chapwa nomba, Mmembe will pay Chikwanda millions, on top of Tax and DBZ arrears.
This phone hacking scandal reminds me of New of the world saga here in the UK. Some journalist and their accomplices are now in jail and paper responsible was disbanded altogether.
So stupid wimp Mmembe be warned that the PF regime you helped get into power and groomed to be ruthless will now lock you up and throw the key away for a long time.
The past news paper exposed for what it is. A lying paper, which does not like honorable men and women.
@wanzelu you are really a dull chap after denying several times that you are abroad you finally let it slip that you are in the UK, which I have always said and you denied it..hopeless lying cretin you are. No wonder you are out of touch with reality in Zambia you’ve been abroad for so long you dont know whats happening on the ground, but tell me how are mental institutions in the UK where you are committed to a psycho ward, is your uncle HH still sending you funds to pay for your medication?
That’s a dumb comment. ABC is the Minister of Finance. He is the boss of ZRA. Even if he instructs them, he would only be discharging his duty to the nation! But if you follow his words, he is actually doing the opposite – asking them to act not because he says so but because of their own conscience – their own commitment to duty. That’s honourable!
@2020vision
You gremlin!
Its gratifying to note that even buffoons like you like to read my comments to learn one or two facts. At least you pick something out of my comment even if you can deny it now, all for the sake protecting your PF given job. I can not blame you for that, because only weak men and women choose to exchange their integrity and values for easy money because they cant use their brains to survive on their own.
So you f00l did not know that I was based in the UK all alone. I have been here since 1995 and only go home occasionally to check on my farm and properties.
I wish I could talk to HH in person and suggest some ideas of how deal with PF minions, November I am coming home its planting season.
Wanzelu, I agree! If we had to be subjected to another term of PF and after reading that transcript, I would rather Lungu as president and Chikwanda his vice. I particularly liked where he explained his treatment of Mahtani. He would have to chill on the borrowing though otherwise my perception of Chikwanda has changed. I was a bit touched when he stated that people thought Sata was a hard man but that he was actually too soft and people took advantage of him. To me that says Sata has never been fit to hold the presidency.
You missed the point. Chiwanda’s instruction for ZRA to act professionally. Which to me should mean pursue anyone who owes us money including the post.
Mr Mmembe has certainly gone nuts and lost it. In the US or some other country where laws are applied to every person regardless of status, Mmembe would have already been visited by some cops and taken in. This is a tax evader who decides to invade a cabinet minister’s private conversation and even has the temerity to threaten to sponsor a radio replay of the same.
How we have lost it as a country. I hope PF supporters can now see for themselves the kind of strange bedfellows they are with the Pest…sorry the POORST on.. no the Post
This is but the beginning of an END for FRED MuMmembe. He will not come out of this, we will make sure he is finished to the core.
very strange indeed! Even if the other person’s identity was not revealed, it is obvious that Honourable Chikwanda knows the person. That said however, my concern or surprise is that this was not a telephone tapping (which is illegal as well) but a recording in someone’s home. We do not know how the recording was done but we can speculate with certainty that maybe, probably or possibly, recording gadgets have been installed in important people’s homes to record whatever they say, and if so then every important person must be concerned about all this and they are entitled to that. I hope the Editor or Editors at the Post Newspaper know the consequences of this unacceptable action. VERY UNACCEPTABLE INDEED. After reflecting on this I do not think I will ever follow this paper as I used…
It is very easy to obtain such a recording, you don’t have to bug anyone’s home, just set your smart phone to record voice memos, hence you can move from room to room recording whatever conversation!! I take it ABC’s visitor who has now become a”ichi kupempula e chikulya”, had HIS LAST DROP of Ka french red wine served to him in that august home!! For ABC surely knows this amateur!!
THE POST ISN’T THE BED FELLOW OF PF. THE ORDINARY POOR PEOPLE OF ZAMBIA, ARE. ANY POLITICAL PARTY IN THE WORLD HAS TO FIND SOME NEWSPAPER TO MARKET THEM. THAT DOESN’T MEAN BED FELLOWS- BUT USING THE SERVICE OF THE PAPER. BUT, M’MEMBE OFFERED HIS SERVICE WITH IMPUNITY. THAT’S WHY AT THE END OF THE DAY HE HAS PUT HIMSELF IN HIS OWN HOT SH!T. HE IS A DESPERATE MAN AFTER THE FIRING OF WYNTER KABIMBA. IF I WERE SATA I WOULD DROP ANYONE CONNECTED TO THESE TWO PEOPLE TO CROWN IT WHOLE. M’MEMBE, THOUGHT HE OWNED PF AND ZAMBIA. M’MEMBE, ACHEPA SANA NA BENA SATA AND TEAM.
In as much as I have misgivings about ABC’s bending of rules for VAT. This use of a blantant invasion of privacy/phone hacking by a tabloid to manipulate politicians and seek favours such as Tax oligations and relief from debt from DBZ are the worst form of hypocrisy and gutter journalism. I have just lost all the little benefit of doubt I had about Mmembe and Nchito. Its actually dangerouus to have a DPP who is is in business with a manipulator like Mmembe (the same boat). Secret recordings of private conversations just to manipulate for personal/business benefit!! I will never buy the post. Chapwa. Nimwe ba kawalala naimwe. Dont pretend! Even ZW Galu is far much better(on higher moral ground) because they do not slander for personal/business gain/greed but politics/beliefs.
The Post has completely lost it here and I have also lost the little respect I had but I think they are still much better than ZW Galuz.
IN DEVELOPED (OR CIVILISED- SO TO SAY) COUNTRIES, CONSUMERS DON’T EVEN NEED TO BE TOLD TO STOP BUYING AND READING THE POST NEWSPAPER FOR THIS ALLEGEDLY COMMITTED FELONY. CONSUMERS WOULD HAVE STOPPED READING THE POST NEWSPAPER IMMEDIATELY THEY HEARD OF THIS INVASION OF PRIVACY. GOING FURTHER TO WRITE IT IN THEIR NEWSPAPER IS F00LISH SELF-CONFESSION. I NEVER THOUGHT M’MEMBE WERE THIS DEEP-F00LISH. HE HAS EVEN SELF-CONFESSED THAT THEY TAPPED OR RECORDED THE CONVERSATION IN MR ABC’s PRIVATE RESIDENCE. BUT THAT’S HOW IT IS NGA WALIKWATA ULUFYENGO KUBANOBE.
Exactly my point Mr Moono! Fred, has unknowingly marketed the mature nature of Chikwanda indeed. Ya feluka iyi ba Fred.
Thats very true,am just wondering what type of evidence that conservation will save in court?and a DPP running a law firm,here is were Sata got it wrong.
If is a noble statesman of his caliber why cant he resign immediately? This is a behavior you are even encouraging when somebody pretends to go for a UNO meeting buts ends up somewhere is this not abuse of public resources?
Country men lets call a spade a spade.Uncle ABC is part of this corrupt and irresponsible government.Unless you are mad this you can support this nonsense.
If uncle ABC was a courageous man why allowing POST to go three years without paying tax,why allowing funding a delegation of 40 people and all those unwanted goverment trips at the expense of development?
To the opposite uncle ABC is a coward,selfish,traitor,bootlicker and corrupt.
Hey @ Sundan, not according to this purpoted recording. The man comes across as a principled and a man of integrity.
Moono, your article was thoroughly entertaining and well articulated. Enjoyed reading it.
It’s unfortunate,this is why even the courts of law there is no justice.police will beat you without an offence.RSTA will take you to court just because of commissions .If u deny the charge they will impound your car until the case is disposed off.What happens,u’ll be stressed and give in for a simple charge which u did not commit just because RTSA reported you and yo car will be at RTSA over 4 months.Really,there is too much malice in this country especially when it comes to law and order.Please PF help us fight injustice.This can make PF unpopular if some people start abusing the rights of people especially RTSA.Viva PF n Sata
Can’t agree more with the author of this article…….Tubeko practical LOL……it was especially humbling the way he refereed to his Mbuya Lungu and his ‘nephew’ HH. These are people(EL and HH) insulted day in and day out by every Jim and Jack but ABC brings outs their truly human side(not sure though about the ‘nangu nakakolwa kalalanda ifyamano’ LOL).
On the other hand, the ‘other person’ came out as a true spy….literally leading ABC to say things while him/herself saying very little. It was also obvious the mission of the ‘other person’ was to simply trap ABC into saying things but ABC kept his cool, limiting his conversation to relevant talk. It also appeared like he called ABC by phone, probably with plotters of the recording and when he noticed ABC was not giving much,…
After reading the article I was like so what? What did Chikwanda say that was wrong? Awe ba post this desperation
Agree wholeheartedly, 100%.
First it is illegal and criminal to record someone without their consent (even if you were having a legal, consensual conversation with them… It is even more criminal to obtain that information illegally via wire-tap or otherwise. So clearly M’membe and The Post have broken the law and must be prosecuted. And I can’t even believe some high court judge even allowed them play the recording in front of him.
As for Chikwanda, yes this private conversation actually makes me like and respect this guy. I have never warmed up to this guy but after this conversation, I can only have so much respect and admiration for him. What he says on the allegedly ’incriminating’ recording is in fact what I expected this govt to be doing.
He is being honest and articulate at the same and he seems to be of high moral ground.
I wonder if the people who set out to make him look bad even listened to the recording or they were just excited about the fact that they obtained the recording illegally. The only thing incriminating here is the illegal recording of a private conversation.
I never thought I would start viewing anyone within the PF in high regard (what with all the stuff ups), but I reckon Chikwanda has changed my position.
Maverick where are you? Good analysis. The Post has gone into tantrums like a little kids who has been denied a candy
A pity the post thought they are exposing ABC when they have actually exposed themselves. The post is quickly tarnishing its image and exposing their dirty dealings. I want to see ABC file a lawsuit against the post for infringing on his privacy and defamation of character!
CONTD
When the other person noticed that ABC was not giving much on the phone which was obviously being recorded, he decided to follow him to his home. Had it not been for 3 issues, I would have said ABC our next president and the three issues are;
Advanced Age
Too many year in politics
Tribe (I am Bemba, I am not tribal, I believe in deserved appointments not by mere tribe ….BUT INSANSA KUCHINJANA)
Long live ABC
Yes but Not HH. he lacks charisma.
@THISISME, THAT IS THE MISTAKE ALL AFRICAN COUNTRIES HAVE BEEN MAKING- TRIBAL BALANCING. LET THE QUALIFIED PERSON BE IN OFFICE. NOT THE TRIBE OR RACE. ABC, COMES ACROSS AS A PERSON WHO CAN RE-ENFORCE TAX COLLECTION IN A PROFESSIONAL MANNER. REGARDLESS OF WHO’S CONNECTED TO WHO IF HE WERE PRESIDENT.
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Chikwanda did actually impress some of us, with regards to his personal stance on a number of issues of national importance. He is truly state’s man. However, for Mumembe he is a lost cause.
ABC’s position with other leaders like HH is nothing but admirable. Thanks again Past news paper for showing us the true colours of ABC.
@Hjoe Moono
Cannot agree more. I only wish every Zambian was as passionate about the country as ABC (as I am), and as objective and articulate in analyzing issues as you.
Not the self centred kandile’s like Mmembe, we’re all been forced to listen to.
THE POST OR THE PAST HAS BECOME SO DESPERATE.ITS ONLY THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE FRIENDS OF POST WILL SEE SOMETHING WRONG IN WHAT ABC SAID IN THE “ILLEGALLY RECORDED CONVERSATION”.I SOMETIMES WONDER WEATHER THE POST IS STILL THE SAME POST OF THE 90s AND LATER YEARS.
INFACT THEY HAVE UNDRESSED THEMSELVES TRYING TO PAINT ABC BLACK.
MMEMBE MUST KNOW VERY WELL THAT TAX AVOIDANCE IS A CRIMINAL OFFENCE SO WHETHER ABC INSTRUCTED ZRA OR NOT THE FACT REMAINS THE SAME.THE POST IN THEIR EDITORIAL COMMENTS THEY ALWAYS QUOTE THE BIBLE AS IF THE LIVE BY WHAT THEY PREACH.SHAMELESS MMEMBE AND THE POST.
Yes, the greatest promoter of tribalism in Zambia is Fred Mmembe himself through his opinion column. Unfortunately, it has reached a situation where gullible Zambians believe the tribal trash and Mmembe is unable to reverse the ‘invasive’ seed that he sowed. In his weird ways, Mmembe thinks he can pass the tribal tag from one area to another at will – first it was the southerners, now it is the northerners – to suit his myopic business interests.
The problem with Post is the fact it owe way too much money. The Newspaper business is not astronomically profitable to pay off the debts mentioned.
Yesterday India was able to put a space probe into an orbit around the planet mars.
Now what makes this engineering feat special is that it cost much less than other
missions undertaken so far. Even more amazing is that India has done this for the
first time and gotten it right! The Indian people just had to celebrate.
Meanwhile here we are as a nation steeped in retardation 50years after so called
independence. Do you really need a consultant to teach you how to keep your
backyard clean?
@Nanga Pakuti
I wish we had so many Zambians who think like you.
Each time there is a change of government we do advice our leaders to invest money in innovation, invention , product design and manufacturing of high tech equipment and products,.But unfortunately it does not register in their brains because most of them still think its impossible for Zambians to design and manufacture products.
Once in power they instead choose to spend a lot of money giving embassy jobs to their relatives at the expense of crucial developmental initiatives.
My blood boils when hear that even simple roads and bridges which a good number of Zambians in the diaspora are busy designing and managing their constructions are still being given to foreigners to design and construct. This is corruption.
PROF CLIVE CHIRWA HAD THE INTENTION OF DESIGNING MANUFACTURING ELECTRICAL TRAINS IN KABWE ZAMBIA. ZAMBIAN (MAINTENANCE) ENGINEERS ARGUED TO SAY IT WAS NOT POSSIBLE TO HAVE ELECTRICAL TRAINS IN ZAMBIA. SO, FOR ME IT’S NOT ABOUT POLITICIANS BUT OUR SO CALLED ENGINEERS TO PUSH FOR RESEARCH CENTRES WERE THEY CAN STRETCH THEIR BRAINS. SO, WE CAN ONLY EXPECT VERY LITTLE OR NOTHING FROM OUR ENGINEERS IN ZAMBIA.
Moono, its too early to conclude that ABC is a man of Integrity. If you were reasonable enough, you would care to balance your analysis.
Mmembe & ABC both have skeleton in their closets and none deserve sympathy for now till proven otherwise by the Law Enforcement Agency.
@ cinerg ulichinangwa ichakuposa fye!!!
Hjoe Moono has given a readable analysis about the violation of invading ABC’s privacy and the attempt to seek sympathy by The Post news paper that they are being victimised concerning their tax obligations. It is imperative to realise that the Post intended to injur ABC through their verbatim publication of ABC’s conversation with their spy. Now that this has backfired, ABC has come out as incorruptable vis-a-vis Mahtanis flaunting of financial regulations, a honourable man concerned about the affairs of the country, hard working and a man who respect everyone including younger people like Edgar Lungu & HH (refered to as his nephews).
So @ Cinerg go see Mmembe and quit too!
Mwailasha ba Past!
I am happily amazed with the outpouring and avalanche of support and endorsement AB Chikwanda has garned from all sections of the Zambian populace from Livingstone to Kasumbalesa, Shangombo through Chanida to Chipata right to Nakonde.
Today if M’membe disputes this, let there be a stoning ceremony where both Chikwanda and M’membe will face the crowd of angry Zambians. M’membe wont last even a minute; he will be dead. The amazing thing is that people will continue to stone the corpse till the heap of stones will reach roof level high. Mark my words, M’membe. You are now public enemy no. 1
I concur with so many people’s concerns for Mmembe’s invasion of privacy. ABC for sure was expressing his opinion as a citizen and not as Minister. So please leave him alone. Looks like national mourning for Kabimba wont end!!! Sure Mmembe should tell the nation what plan he was scheming with Kabimba.
Agreed with the article. ABC is a real statesman. Was impressed with his position in private – not playing to the gallery. What the devil meant for evil, God used for good.
Fred has lost it , his situation is now a case study for History .
ARREST MMEMBE NOW.
WHAT ARE THE POLICE WAITING FOR?
SEND HIM TO JAIL AND THROW AWAY THE KEYS.
LET HIM ROT IN JAIL
MMEMBE’S TYRANNY IS OVER!!
I like your comment .
The simple fact is that whatever ABC thinks, he has absolutely failed to do his job.
The fact that ZRA has not pursued the Posts taxes due for THREE YEARS is proof of that.
The man is incompetent as a Minister of Finance, he has bankrupted Zambia once before, and is going to do it again with excessive borrowing.
If he was a REAL statesman with integrity he would speak out publicly and expose the failings of this corrupt and lying PF Government, and resign!
As part of it, he is just as guilty of coming to power on the basis of LIES as anyone else.
How many days since we were promised a NEW CONSTITUTION in 90 days?
Yakaba ba past, oh sorry, ba post ! Ala just pay your debts bane. You think others like paying tax? it is an obligation. You are fooling nobody with your tricks and tantrums. Just pay ka membe,ka mambala iwe!
Why should people ask how Membe got the conversation of abc , have you forgotten why Miyanda refused to register the telephone Numbers . any way he has paid for his sins . Katongo moved theft of motor vehicle motion in parliament later it was used on him . he complained but it was already law . the same applies to Chikwanda .he is in the net to day cos of the same law he brought . SIM register at work . God is watching .
You are spot on.
that conversation was NOT OVER the phone, most likely recorded using a smart phone such as an iphone in “Memo recording mode”, hence nothing to do with sim cards!
Iwe we have been told it is The Post Business editor Chiyowu Sinyangwe who did the secret recording and will be fixed.
This article is exactly my thoughts including on the case of Rupert Murdoch…Mr.Chikwanda has been shown as a man with a heart for Zambians. He is truly a statesman. This has had an opposite reaction from what the post intended.In a way the post has campaigned for A.B.C without realising it.Keep up the Good work Mr.Chikwanda. You are not a pretender. I also like what he said about the S.G Edgar Lunga ati even when he is drunk he speaks sense nomba what more sober. Another good campaign for Edgar Lungu. Its now time that the Post should pay their taxes as well as DBZ for that money can help our country develop further if paid back.
The post intention has misfired on this one as the recording shows how honest ABC is even in his drunken stupor
M’membe’s period of mourning over Kabimba isn’t over yet. It has really affected him badly. He is now acting irrationally and doing things haphazardly. Try to relax and come to terms with the reality that those grand designs to prop Kabimba as president have horribly been shattered. It’s time to move on to plan B if there is any, but it’s no use throwing tantrums and acting irresponsibly. Your actions may pave way to one of Zambia’s nice prisons.
What flips my pancake about Mmembe’s lack of judgement is that his desperation has made him lose the cutting edge analysis he once appeared to have. ABC has been suing and winning. Someone will be in a deeper hole than when we started. But then again one needs to be cautious Fred is not stupid he might now just started to sing the ABC song ( Not the Jackson 5 song, I mean Alexander B. Chikwanda) sensing where the tide is going. He might have already been on the phone to ABC to start a more marketable Chikwanda project.
What is more disappointing though about all this is the reaction (or lack of) from Zambians. In other countries with an enlightened citizenry, by now we could have seen massive demonstrations against The Post newspaper demanding that they pay tax and the DBZ debt. Their offices would have been picketed en masse by protesters demanding what is due to them.
Alas, not in this country… it’s business as usual like nothing has happened. This is the money that is meant to buy medicine in hospitals. And where are those vocal NGOs who were supposed to fight for the poor? If at they were relevant they need to demand this money from The Post.
Phone hacking is criminal.
Tapping someone’s home is also a criminal offence.
I wonder what our proffessional police are doing in relation to these serious criminal offences.
Ask journalists in England from the News of the World.
Wake up!!
I agree with Dr. Eustace….. membe is very clever…… watch this space. This is not the first time we’ve seen him play this game.
I beg to differ with you on this one. Mmembe managed to escape the state ‘s wrath in past all because he was the love of the people. Now the dynamics have changed indeed.
The master dribbler Sata lured Mmembe in so that he turn him against the public. Now that most of the public have turned their back on him, the cobra and his people have started to strike him because he has no public sympathy.
Right now he is sweating and begging Sata through Chella to plead with Chikwanda to let him of the hook. But I think the damage has been done, there is no going. Remember there is no honour amongst thieves.
To all ZAMBIANS…..Please lets all come together and DO ONE thing lets create and shape the zambia we want ,lets boycott companies like post newspaper! Do not buy or use any services that the post news paper provides ! Together, we people have the power to dictate and chant the Zambia we want. NO ONE SHOULD BUY post newspaper. All bad companies will learn from this boycott . Zambia please come together….lets start the wave of the zambia we want today …Please let the world know that zambians have a voice….. napapata
I started buying the Post in 1991 and have never missed a copy since then.
@YATUTA, BUT WHERE ARE YOU- IN ZAMBIA OR USA? I STOPPED READING THE POST NEWSPAPER NOW THAT IT’S OBVIOUS THAT M’MEMBE USES IT TO DEFAME HIS UNLIKED INDIVIDUALS. I WOULD ENCOURAGE OTHERS WHO LOVE HONEST AND GOOD SERVICE TO STOP, AS WELL.
…Kabimba unsellable – fact
…Lungu likes his bottle but is very intelligent – fact
…Scott kept for ‘chola boy’ purpose – fact
…ZRA not professional -fact
…MCS is under the weather – fact
I can go on and on..
Kalu, you are the post-reading useful *****s. Since 1991, you read the past newspaper religiously
Shouldnt Pemela (Action Aid) and some the NGOs be in the front, demonstrating about this? It leaves one to wonder why we should only be concerned when its a foreign firm. Docility in Zambia will never end..
Why Pamela alone? Don’t you think it about time each individual Zambian realized what was good for them or their country? We don’t need organizations to do the work for us. It’s our civil responsibility as citizens. If for once as Zambians we focused on what was good for our country then we will demonstrate when we see injustice. Unfortunately, we focus so much on what we lose and not what we gain even when that gain may not be seen in our lifetime. This is a Zambian responsibility not a Pamela one.
Is that how cheap statesmanship is, taking a glass of wine and thinking that the president in an absentee but yet continue to work under him
Ba Chikwanda, kwena mwalikwata “scopo” bosses. Lesa apale. Zambians, can you imagine what would happen to this country if all ministers were this resolute in fighting corruption and defending the rule of law?
Fellow cotizens, i guess by now you should have been aware with current world happenings, which i may not explain in detail. Was Snowden working for any media to have released informations to the world? How about the wiki leaks doings?
In short we are all prone to be agents in one way or the other and sell what we get for a living, simple as that. the post never planted anything. chikwanda’s friend just betrayed him, to have a living by selling what he got to the post. simple!!!! The post are in business and do what is simple!!!
The Right to privacy is the foundation of freedom and that is why even the Executive of Government with its security responsibilities can not violate it without oversight from the Judicature in the form of a warrant. This invasion of privacy by the Post is a serious attack on the rights of all because no one can tell who else is being recorded thus introducing fear in all citizens. I would appeal to ABC to do perform an important and liberating service in the wake of the tapping of his home, namely, file a complaint at the police for criminal trespass and for breach of privacy. He should also file a civil suite against the Post and its Managing Editor. However, the best treatment for a rogue newspaper is for it to go to new management. I hope ZRA can ultimately appoint receivers.
So ZRA should stop deducting PAYE from me without my permission?
No sides taken, but if you do not pay taxes what do you expect? First it was Zambian Airways saga. Now tax evasion? I pay 12,000 per month while someone who enjoys the same rights decides not to pay?
Generally Zambians have short memories resulting from partly the absence of a reading culture therefore they can only comment on the present. They have forgotten how Chiluba closed Meridien bank to fix KK and Sardanis and how RB closed Zambian Airways to fix Mmembe and Nchito. In both, innocent Zambians lost jobs and tax payer’s money. Unfortunately Sata is making the same mistake trying to close the Post to settle political scores with Mmembe. If the post closes like in the past, it’s the man on the streets who loses a job and tax payers money while politicians and share holders, move on into another comfortable life. Hjoe, I admire your attempt to analyse national issues but you need to do more research to find parallel accounts in history in order to be more critical and evaluative.
if I can pay my taxes, why then shouldn’t the Post??? The employees should just accept that their company is at fault & they have been caught in the crossfire – no one is immune from paying taxes or paying debts that they owe banks!!!!!
@kamwendo. This is exactly what @ Judy is saying “lack of a reading culture”. If you had read the original story, you would have known that the Post had offered a payment schedule which was rejected by ZRA. The post has not refused to pay the debt but are asking for more time which is normal in any business. As to why they are being asked now has made it look like political victimisation.
The Post is lying. They have not been paying taxes but have been using govt revenue.
PAYE is paid by employees. Every month I pay for K30 000. This is my money that I earned which the company deducts and remits to the ZRA. It is to my credit not th company.
VAT is a tax on consumption paid by the end users. Businesses do NOT pay VAT. VAT is collected by businesse and paid over to the ZRA. It is to the credit of consumers.
Dutie are equally a licence of getting goods into the country.
The only taxes that a company pays are corporate taxes! The Post HAS NOT been paying corporate taxes for sometime now.
Let me say that not remitting and using PAYE, NAPSA, VAT is theft!! ZRA must impose the maximum penalties.
Chikwanda for President!!!!
Post should face criminal charges similar to TAPPING scandal in England. Kudos to ABC
Zambians have such short memory. What is so statesmanship about Alexander Bwalya Chikwanda. He is just another corrupt individual who also served as Chief of Staff in Chiluba’s corrupt government. Have you ever heard of him condemning Chiluba? No, because he ate from the same table. Chikwanda is shaking in boots and he will not sue! mark my words HE WILL NOT SUE THE POST. All what he did with Chiluba will come out.
Iwe Kimbaguist how long did Chikwanda serve in Chilubas Government? Who served longer him or Mwanawasa (MHSRIP)?
Great article. Mmembe can never be a match for ABC. He is just a faggot who made his name by demonising the late FTJ. He is lucky that he is in Zambia otherwise his toilet paper newspaper would have closed down the way that arch conservative Murdoch’s News of the World closed down in the UK over phone hacking!!
Maano. You are blank in your head. Hon Chikwanda did not instruct but advise commissioner general ZRA to act with a conscience and professionalism by dealing with Past newspaper with a bigger tax violation than Zambeef. This is from Mmeembe’s sources of information. By the way ZRA is not an independent entity but an agent of government through ministry of finance.
FIMBI IFIBANTU FIPUBA, MULEICHUSHYA FYE BAWISHI. TACHAUMFWE IYO NANGU FYE MULANDILE KUMATAKO. PA ZAMBIA PALIBOBUTUTU SANA BAWISHI.
Judy you have missed the point. Sata-n is not trying to close the post. The post newspaper has always labelled others as corrupt and immoral, the same crime they find themselves in today. To save face they are trying to fight all good and innocent people including Chikwanda. Past newspaper should not be allowed to commit crime because they employ people unless you want people on the street to survive from the proceeds of crime.
Yatuta that’s a brilliant idea. Let’s all burn the past newspaper so that Fred knows that he has taken us for a ride for far too long. I personally have vowed never to spend a coin on Fred membes business in any way. I have never bought the past newspaper for over two years now because I have just refused to be a useful ***** to Fred.
Please somebody help me, was the story in yesterday’s paper?
Talk of the calibre of Lawyers who graduate from ZIALE!! Mmembe has the audacity to present such an illegal recording in court as an Exhibit???? LAZ should be purging such riff raff from their ranks for putting the PROFESSION INTO DISREPUTE! If his lawyers Nchito & Nchito were the ones presenting this evidence, they too should go!! That is, not only suspending their licences BUT BANNING THEM FOR ETERNITY!!